Paranormal Investigators Date Night with the Ghost Gang

This week we’re going international! Monique and Anthony, the husband-and-wife paranormal team from Date Night with the Ghost Gang in Australia, join me. They share how ghost hunting became their ultimate date night, their most chilling investigations—including a terrifying encounter at Aradale Asylum—and the eerie moments when spirits may have followed them home.

We talk about:

• How a psychic medium and a skeptic teamed up to explore the paranormal.

• In the night, a mysterious dragging sound froze Anthony in place.

• Monique’s psychic impressions and the physical sensations of dark energy.

• The story of “Benjamin,” the spirit child who might have moved in with them.

• The Differences Between Australian and American Paranormal Investigations.

• Why “Chair of Torture” is now a running joke (and a serious warning).

Whether you’re into raw, unedited ghost hunting or just love spooky stories from around the world, you won’t want to miss this one.

📍 Follow Date Night with the Ghost Gang on YouTube, TikTok, and social media for more of their investigations. 💀 Support Dairyland Frights on Patreon to hear even more paranormal tales and extended interviews.

Listen now… if you dare. And remember: Stay spooky!

Episode Transcript

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(01:02):
and mysterious in the Midwest and beyond.
I'm your host, John, and on the podcasttonight, we have gone international.
I have Monique and Anthony,
paranormal investigators from Date night withthe ghost gang from Australia.
That is the worst Australian accent ever.
I apologize, guy.

Speaker B (01:23):
That was really good.

Speaker C (01:24):
Thanks for having us.

Speaker A (01:25):
Welcome, welcome, welcome.
So one of the main things that I love about
paranormal investigators is, and we justtalked about this a little bit offline, is
fun.
I love that when you guys are a team,
especially,
you know, man and wife and everything likethat and working together, because not sure me

(01:48):
and my wife could do that.
We're pretty scared.
We probably run the other way.
It would not be that much of an investigation.
More of screaming and yelling and crying and
running the other way.
But.
But, you know, again, that's why I have suchrespect for paranormal investigators.
Because really,
you're not doing this for the most part forfame or money.

(02:12):
I mean, that's nice, right?If that comes along,
that, that's nice if you get recognized.
Nothing wrong with that.
But you're doing it for the love of the
paranormal.
Right?
So let me ask you to start, start out.
What got you guys interested in it?
What?Your love of the paranormal.
How did that start?

Speaker C (02:30):
Gosh, well, I've always been interested ever since I was probably about 4
when I had my first experience.

Speaker A (02:39):
Okay.

Speaker C (02:40):
And about 20 years ago, I started ghost hunting and really, really loved it.
And then I had a little hiatus.
And a few years ago, probably about three
years ago, I started watching the paranormalYouTube shows and that sort of thing.
And Anthony came to me one night and he said,what are you watching?

(03:03):
And I said, oh, it's really cool.
I think it was ghost adventures or something
like that.
And he showed a lot of interest.

Speaker B (03:11):
Mun's been a psychic Medium her whole life.
A lot of what she has conveyed to me in duecourse, things that I was skeptical at the
start and trying to work out, okay, well, youknow,
who have I married?You know, this is.
This kind of really.
It did freak me out.
Things that were so accurate that she had

(03:33):
visualized people that were reaching out toher to do tarot card readings and psychic
medium readings.
And Bonnell started getting.
She's had this reputation as small as it is,
but enough that people were read reaching outto her.
And when she one day is like.
And this was like one said three years ago,
she turned around and like, she put this showon, I lean over and just, you know, watching

(03:55):
something with her and I go, okay, this ispretty cool.
Like, I was really getting into this.
And it's like, you know, as a married couple,this was our downtime, right?
We've got a very large family, so for the timewe spend together, you know, you get those
limited hours and they could start at 9, 10 o'clock at night, depending when.
When you actually wind the house down.
And we started watching this stuff.

(04:15):
And I suppose one thing led to another in mymind because I was looking at these videos and
the content these YouTubers were creating.
I'm thinking, okay, well, firstly, how real isit?
Number one, you know, is somethingoverproduced for commercial purposes, like you
just said before, you know, is it for the fameand the fortune as opposed to the pure rawness

(04:36):
of that actual,
you know, that night these guys spend there?You know, are they just somehow manipulating
whatever they're doing to be able to make itinto, you know, attractive content for the
viewers?
And on top of that, I'm thinking, okay, well,this may be real.
And I started looking at all the equipment andmy interest came straight away from, you know,
I openly say I'm adhd.

(04:58):
So I put something in my mind to something andI'm all or nothing.
It's a million miles an hour.
And then I started looking at the equipment
going, okay, well, I'm a bit of a skeptic.
So this equipment to myself would be mydefinitive proof that if we were to pursue
this and just as a social means for us just togo out and find some locations,
no intention of the actual channel, nonewhatsoever.

(05:18):
And,
you know, maybe this will be my way ofconvincing myself that what Mon feels is real
as well.
So I started putting shopping lists together
and before you.
I know we'll get to that.
Yeah, I was going to say, but then, you know,
putting these lists together and all thisEquipment started showing up and then,
you know,
it was, it was okay.

(05:38):
Well one, yeah, it wasn't enough for me.
I still just kept going and saying, okay, theygot this, this, this and this.
It's like, okay, well I, I love the ide had tobe manipulated either by human form or if it
wasn't the human form,
it would be potentially a spirit, the entity,
you know, some energy that's around that willset something up,
set a device off.

(05:58):
Because everything had to be touched through
breaking an EMF field, you know, based on anenergy, an energy source of some kind or music
box that you walk in front of that physicallyhas to be activated to set the music off.
Um, if we tested it and it works and thestuff's not cheap, you know.
And then all of a sudden we have it turned onand then all of a sudden it goes off again.

(06:21):
That's something that just got me absolutelyintrigued,
you know.
So when we started watching these videos, mine
said, I'll take you to what they call thePicton Tunnel.
It's probably, if you do any research, Pictonin Australia is listed as in the top 10 most
haunted places.
Well, it's, it's the town itself is in top 10,10 most haunted places in Australia.
As much as they,

(06:42):
you know, when you look up that actual list,it comes up with physical locations.
And we're only about a 10 minute drive fromthere, from where we are, where we live now.
Mon took me for a drop, she said, I've got aplace for you.
And this place is, is accessible during theday.
So they open it to the public between thehours of 10 o' clock and 2 o' clock in the
afternoon.
And we went up there, no equipment, just wentfor this stroll in there.
You know, the first thing you feel is likethat initial rush,

(07:06):
you know, and we're really excited, going,okay.
We've got this newfound passion and hobbytogether that we can share.

Speaker C (07:12):
I thought it was great, he's coming along.

Speaker B (07:14):
Yeah,
it was, it was that visit.
Although nothing much happened, just the
eeriness of that environment that just grabbedme.
Absolutely.
I call it, it's a paranormal drug.
I mean, you do it once and then all of asudden that adrenaline rush kicks in.
You just can't wait to do it again.
And Mon said, well look, you're getting all
this equipment and it's driving me *******crazy that you've turned around, you bought

(07:37):
all this stuff, but we're doing nothing withit.
And I said, what do you want to do?And she goes, yeah,
let's get a channel up and running.
And she was hounding me for three years.

Speaker C (07:46):
I said, people will see this.
There's no point.

Speaker B (07:49):
And, and there's three years of the basic stuff.
Then it was becoming more advanced cameras andthings.
Like, I'll be watching a YouTube,
one of, one of our favorite YouTubers.
And I, Paul, I'd basically pause the video
when they show that I'm one of the guys withthe camera.
And I just look at it and then I make thecalls and I go, okay, I want this camera to a
mate of mine.
And he just laughs his head off.
And he says, why?

(08:09):
And I told him why.
And he goes, you're ******* crazy.
What are you doing?I said, don't worry about this.
You just leave it with us.
You'll.
You'll enjoy the ride once you see what we'reabout to do.
And Mon got away.
I always say the happy wife, happy life
scenario.
So, you know, she turned around and I said,okay, let's just do this for content purposes,
but for no financial gain.
Like we, like, all we always say is that date

(08:31):
night with the ghost game came about becausethat's our quality time.
You know, candlelit dinners are thrown out thewindow as much as every now and then we go to,
you know,
we now go through drive throughs.
But our date night is okay, so where are we
going tonight?Do we have the opportunity to go into another
investigation?And that is the absolute niche of what we're
about.
The honesty about who we are, the love we havefor each other, and it's actually conveyed in

(08:54):
all the actual footage because we're, we'rejust ourselves.
We don't hide anything.
And we say, if you want to watch our, watchour,
our channel and follow us.
You're following the journey.
You're sharing in our date night.
You're sharing in the,
the rawness of the interactions we have withthe spirit realm.
And our reactions are just a hundred percent,just blatantly,

(09:14):
you know, out there because, you know, we,
it's, it's authentic.
It is, it's really cool.
That's where it's sort of, that's where itled.
You know, we just hope that, you know, withthe people, and we will, we're completely
thankful for even your time to chat with us isthat people come on board.
It's an absolute bonus.
Some of the stuff we've captured and I'm in my
short time doing this and Mon and I have justsaid this is incredible.

(09:38):
Like, I, I have no,
no explanation for why things happen,
what we have seen, what we have heard.
It's not just physical devices.
It's above and beyond that now.
You know, every, every time I do it, I'm
jumping out of a plane for the first time.
Yeah, I mean, that's right.
That's the feeling.
Right?And yeah, and we, we look at.

Speaker C (09:59):
Everything in a realistic way.
We try to debunk everything that happens.
And I'm,
I'm not a blind believer.
I need things to be proved 100%.
Yeah.
So that,
that's conveyed in our videos.

Speaker A (10:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, for my, for my spooky friends
out there, you know, check out their content.
It's incredible.
I love it.
It's raw.
It's like you said,
you're really getting kind of the feeling ofwhat you guys are experiencing.
You know what I mean?Because some people, you know, they edit and
you know, I'm not saying you guys don't dothat whatever, but you know what I mean, they

(10:39):
make it look like it's.
Woo. We got to add spooky sounds and we got toadd this, we got to add that.
And it's just like.
No, I, I love, I love the paranormal groups
that I have on.
It's just like here we are,
we're having this experience.
It's raw, it's emotional and you know,
it's just to me a great time to show thingslike that to people who get, you know what I

(11:04):
mean, they just see the over dramatization ofthings, you know, and that gets old after a
while.
Not saying that it's bad, but I get it, youneed clicks, you know, for those people.
And other times I just like people are just,they, they go out, we're, we're going to this
haunted house, you know, what we believe ishaunted.
And we're just checking it out.

(11:24):
We're laying down our equipment and we'regoing through things and this is what we
capture, you know, and I just love that.
So let's get right into it.
Tell me about like you, whoever wants to gofirst or maybe you share the same experience,
you're most memorable or significantparanormal experience or experiences,

(11:48):
you know, that kind of really.
So you can still hear me?Okay, great.
So what are some of your most memorable orsignificant paranormal experiences?
Whoever would like to start.

Speaker B (12:01):
We have a habit of talking over each other a lot too.

Speaker C (12:03):
So let him stop because.

Speaker A (12:06):
Okay.

Speaker C (12:08):
Because it's the same experience, basically.

Speaker B (12:11):
Yeah, look, it's the most recent.
We shared a Victorian road trip, so we went
down to three locations About a couple ofmonths ago and they were.
It was from Beechworth Jail,
it's in another state.
So we're looking anywhere from.
From where we are about six hours worth ofdriving to 10 hours depending on the location

(12:31):
and we hit three places up and the funny thingis the last place we went to was called
Aradale Asylum and that place is known as thebiggest asylum in the southern hemisphere.
Over 13 odd thousand deaths in there.
Complete mistreatment of patients.
The most inhumane storage you could possiblyimagine.
So as dark as that was to be able to learn thehistory with our guide on the night you know

(12:56):
we came away with some of the most definitiveparanormal like proof that we've ever
experienced like that.
It's a turning point because I, we, we go, we,we sort of laughed it off and we said maybe we
just attract this.
I don't know what's like we go with like it
was.
But the guide even said this night wasabsolutely off the charts.

(13:16):
Like it was crazy compared to.
Yeah there was American YouTubers that came.
That came out a couple of months earlier thanthat and,
and also did some investigating down there andyou know from what we had captured versus what
they had got with again chalk cheese based onwhat this lady said but one in particular,
well there's two mon will talk about thesecond one, the first one for myself we were

(13:40):
down in a.
It was like a grand ballroom part area.
It's a big dining area but the kit there was
a. There was a kitchen that was off this andthe kitchen was enormous.
They talk about kitchens this range would the.
But they had arrangement across the whole
ceiling of this kitchen with little vent holesthrough the whole thing.
And the guide beforehand said yes, someoneactually saw a face and two eyes poking

(14:02):
through these holes.
I said well I better not ******* see thatbecause I'm going to be beelining straight out
of this place.
So she painted this picture and we left this
part to the very end.
We spent at least an hour ish in every placethey took us.
So this is an investigation of from about 6:30at night till about 2:30, 3 o' clock in the
morning and we're filming content the wholetime.

(14:22):
See when you, when we're talking about thatediting just real quick.
It's just a side note we're going away withabout half a terabyte worth of footage to try
and now say how do we compress this intocontent that's going to be visible for people
to be drawn into to watch to be able to share.
That's not going to be eight hours long.
So each video now in my head I'm doing a three
part series of this would be probably an hourand a half each, give or take.

(14:47):
So it's really hard to actually try andcondense stuff.
But that's how big this night was.
When we were in the kitchen, I said to Mon, we
have to go and investigate this place.
And she goes, I don't really feel good.
Her intuition's on point all the time.
She goes, I don't really want to.
I said, no, you have to.
So I'm just, I basically drag her in there andwe don't take the equipment, we leave the
equipment in the dining room and all I've gotis the camera and I had my EVP recorder and I

(15:11):
thought,
I just, you know, just as the last thing ofthis place, this is we'll capture an evp.
But when we got in there and you know, we'recompletely quiet and one of our devices,
sorry, there's a device I have, it's called anepoch box and it's a yes no device.
So it answers questions, you know,
by saying yes or no based again on EMF energyas well as.

(15:31):
And it can be really accurate.
And we walk in this place.
Within about two seconds the device goes fourtimes in the deepest voice goes, no, no, no.
Like that.
And then so Mon gets offside straight away,
wow.
She goes, I'm out.
And I said, no you're not.
You got to stay with me.
And we're, we're quiet for a bit more and I've
heard this dragging noise.
Now there is a big kitchen bench that's, you

(15:54):
know, probably, I'd say about 10 meters ifthat away from where we were standing.
And the dragon noise was behind the bench.
But I'm talking to a point where, you know,
I've watched enough movies to know, you knowwhen you hear when people drag bodies along
the ground, they drop them on the ground orit's a bit, you know, the biggest, I don't
know,
another, another, another comparison might bea real big bag of potatoes.

(16:14):
I don't even know.
Something huge, a big sack of something.
And it was dragged along the ground, right.
So loud and dropped and then dragged again.
It was on the camera as clear as day.
We freak out and Mon says I'm out.
Now.
The comment I think we put on the TikTok reelwas when we heard this is.
I'm grabbing onto mine like she's a human EMFdevice.
Yeah, I mean, because I did not Want her toleave?

(16:37):
I said, don't you dare leave me in here.
Cause that's the first time I froze.
And a lot of times, if something comes.
Comes out on a device or I hear a tapping,
a bang, or footsteps, I go after it.
Yeah, a lot of the times, and I could not
move.
And this is like this paralysis just crept in,
and I was completely vulnerable.
And I just looked each other and went.

(16:57):
We don't know what happened.
We heard a disembodied voice straightafterwards, and that's on camera as well.
And then a couple, like, about a minute later,the guards came back, and then we did a whole
run through.
They said, what did you get?And I told them.
And we went around the whole place.
Could not find any proof.
No marks on the ground from what the actualsound was, but that was.
It was that unbelievably scary.

(17:19):
It took all my insecurities,
you know, and highlighted them.
You know,
this is where you let your guards down.
The first thing we do, and what one's taught
me over the years that we've been doing thisis that if you're susceptible and you become
vulnerable in a situation,
no matter who you are, you can attract a lotmore.
Keeping our guards up all the time.

(17:41):
So, yeah, we protect our family,
protect ourselves.
We limited people into our lives.
You know, at times,
this was something where I had nothing.
If it was there, it was going to get mebecause I could not move.
I just had a camera.
I thought, okay, I got a camera.
What am I going to do?
Throw the camera at something that's not.
I can't even see, you know, I mean, I don't
know what to do.

Speaker A (18:00):
Right, right, right.

Speaker B (18:01):
Yeah. So that was.
That was a turning point for me because then I
realized we've leveled up, you know, as aparanormal couple.
Date night took another twist, another turninto something that just made us look at each
other and go, holy ****.
What the hell did we just hear?

Speaker A (18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker B (18:19):
Yeah, that's my story.
Yeah.

Speaker C (18:21):
Yeah.

Speaker A (18:21):
Did you guys feel like it was evil, like it was trying to hurt you?
Or did you just feel just like.
I'm just plane scared?
Which, obviously, I can't blame you.

Speaker B (18:32):
It was dark.

Speaker A (18:33):
It was.

Speaker B (18:34):
It was.
It was very heavy and very dark.
Yeah. You wouldn't like to say if we.
And I'd love to go back there again, and we
will.
You know, would I go in there by myself?Probably the second time?
I would.
If one didn't want to go in there, I would
challenge myself a little bit more to face thefear of what we experienced the first time and
see whether it comes back again.
Yeah,
yeah, 100%.

(18:54):
It was.
It was incredibly dark.
It had intent of some kind and.

Speaker A (18:59):
Yeah.

Speaker B (18:59):
Yeah. When something creates such a. Such a noise and a distraction, they're out
to scare you.
It's not just to say, hey, hello.

Speaker A (19:07):
Right.

Speaker B (19:08):
Reach out and say what my name is.
Why I. You know, how I passed away and,
you know, maybe if I've got any other companyaround me, it's this was out myself.

Speaker C (19:19):
Yeah.
Within my body.
Get an indication of if something's darker.
And I get that, you know, that feeling ofdread in your stomach when someone's told
worst news you've ever heard.

Speaker A (19:32):
Yeah.

Speaker C (19:33):
I get that burning sensation in my stomach when something dark is around, so.
And that's what happened in that situation.

Speaker A (19:43):
Yeah.

Speaker C (19:44):
Frozen said, no, I'm out.
Yeah.
It's a really horrible feeling to have.

Speaker A (19:49):
Yeah, absolutely.
So, Monique, have you ever just walked into an
area and just said to Anthony, nope, I'm notdoing.
This is too dark.
I can't do this.

Speaker C (20:03):
Yeah. And that's what happened in this kitchen.

Speaker A (20:06):
Okay. So. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker C (20:08):
Yeah, I just.
I said, I don't like the feeling.
I don't want to go in there.
It was really.

Speaker A (20:14):
And was it again,
some sensitives, I like to say sensitivebecause it's like medium and clairvoyant and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
They almost feel, like you said, like it'salmost pressing down on them.
Like it's a weight sometimes, and they can'tdescribe it other than.
It's just something like.

(20:34):
I feel like, you know, it's kind of like.
This is a very simple analogy is like, haveyou ever had, like, a wet towel and someone
throws a wet.
A really soaking wet towel on you, and you're
just like.
You know what I mean?It's like you don't like it.
You know, you're like, get that wet towel offof me.
That's, you know, it's gross and stuff.
That's kind of the feeling you get.

(20:55):
Or is it, like I said, like you said, more inyour stomach where you feel like you're gonna
get sick.

Speaker C (21:00):
Yeah, it's more a physical,
that burning in my stomach, like a feeling ofdread.
I have experienced other things where, youknow, you get the cobwebs sensation on your
face.
Recently we went to Sydney quarantine station,and there's this area called the gravediggers

(21:21):
cottage.
That's like the poltergeist cottage.
As I walked in there, it felt like I was goingunderwater all of a sudden.
It was the strangest thing.
All I can put it down to is that I must havewalked through something because it was only
in one section.

(21:42):
Yeah. So I have various physical sensations.
I'm like.

Speaker A (21:47):
Yeah.

Speaker C (21:47):
On their emotions, things like that.

Speaker A (21:50):
Yeah, yeah.
You know, I've had other sensitive people say
they can smell it too.
Have you ever like, you know, other than the
regular smell of whatever.
But yeah, you smell something.
You know what I mean?

Speaker C (22:03):
It's like the smell of an old style perfume, like Rose.
You might smell cigarette smoke and it's justall of a sudden and then it's gone.
You might smell fire and there's noexplanation because there's no fire around.
Like something's just passing.

Speaker B (22:23):
Yeah. So as much as my.
I feel like I'm having a panic attack when
things like this happen.
My initial feeling, one,
you know, basically realizes it so much thatwhat she feels, you know, she'd be able to
really come out and say, okay, well, you know,my throat's really tight.
You know, something's happened to you.
Someone, you know, I feel like someone hastaken their life or whatever it might be

(22:44):
without knowing the actual history of theplace.
You know, through due course of actually doinga bit of research, you realize in that area
that is the reason why the one was feelingthis because,
you know, being such an empath and being so insync with that, with the spirit world.

Speaker A (23:00):
Right.

Speaker B (23:02):
Yeah, it really, really, it really puts things, it puts things in perspective.
I'm not yet there.
Mine's encouraging me.
Right.

Speaker C (23:09):
I think he very much as sensitive, but he's just not realizing what it is he's
feeling.
So he'll.
We're in a hospital at the quarantine station.
We went into this second ward and he broke out
into a sweat.
He felt really anxious.
And I said, well, maybe you're picking up on
lots of people in.

(23:30):
He died of Spanish influenza.
Maybe you're feeling that because when peoplehad influenza they get the sweats and.

Speaker B (23:39):
And I shake, I shake it off real quick.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, as opposed to letting that be a guide
of what potentially may lie ahead for me.
Yeah. Months.
There's a lot of this times because I've got
the camera in my hand that I'm always a littledistracted by it.
But that was more at the first few places wewent to because I was always conscious of,
okay, content, content, you know, how do Imake this look,

(24:02):
you know, the best possible way I could do?And yeah,
be honest.
It didn't distract Me now I've got enough.
I've got the right camera.
I know it works.
I know what it does.
I can move it around a lot quicker and I'mvisually immersing myself in the environment
when I know the camera's just in my hand and Ican move it around so quickly if I need to,
but it's not as much of a distraction.

(24:23):
I think that's why I'm actually starting toexperience a lot more physically.

Speaker C (24:27):
I've been encouraged, like, take a moment and just feel.

Speaker B (24:30):
Yeah, we love sitting in silence.
Yeah, yeah, we love doing that.
You know, as much as I can talk underwater.
Yeah, I have, I think, yeah, the spirits aresaying, can you shut the **** up?
I just want to set off some devices and scarethe **** out of you.
Can you just be quiet for a second?

Speaker A (24:51):
Yeah, yeah.
I love that.
Have you guys ever experienced being touched,grabbed or anything and you could.
What happened?

Speaker C (25:01):
A lot of times I've experienced being touched.
You know, you might feel something on yourshoulder.
They like to sort of hold me on the arm here,touching on the face.
In the Picton Tunnel, I had had my hairstroked.
Really horrible experience.

(25:22):
I was at this courthouse called BerrimaCourthouse and we're having a silent vigil.
This is years ago, before I met Anthony.
And so it was pitch black.
We're all sitting in a circle, cross legged onthe floor.
And I felt you couldn't see in front of you,but I felt this presence draw very, very

(25:42):
close.
You know how if someone's hovering over youand your eyes are closed, you can feel them.
So it was like that, but I felt them touch myinner thighs.
And this was in the men's holding cell of thecourthouse where they put the prisoners
awaiting trial.
So that was like, I'm, I'm out.

(26:04):
Someone's just come into my space and they've
touched me inappropriately,
right.
And I felt their face right up close.
It almost like someone wants to kiss you.

Speaker A (26:16):
Yeah,
yeah, right.
Yeah, that's. That. That's Anthony.
Do you ever fear for her?
Do you ever, like when you go into a place, doyou ever go like, you know, hey, leave her
alone kind of attitude or is it just happens?
It happens.

Speaker B (26:34):
Well, you know what, Mon just whispers.
She goes, you get very protective.
I really don't.
I just want to throw in the feeling.
I want to throw it in the walls.
It's like dangle her out there.

Speaker C (26:42):
Especially when we used to go to Parramatta Jail,
he'd say, you know, back off my wife.
If I felt Something coming in.
And I expressed that.
He'd say, back off, my wife.

Speaker B (26:53):
Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker C (26:54):
Yeah, you did.

Speaker A (26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker B (26:55):
Hey, that was a prisoner talking.

Speaker A (26:58):
Anthony, don't feel bad.
I've had married paranormal couples on here.
And the husband usually says, whatever you'regoing to do, do it to me.
And I always say like, you know, maybe likeone.
Just a really quick story.
One of my paranormal couples, the wife wasgetting like really violently ill and she.

(27:18):
I have to leave, I have to leave.
But she couldn't feel like she could leave.
So he finally just said, hey, you know,*******, whatever you're doing, do it to me.
Leave her alone.
And immediately he felt sick and he started toget sick.
And, you know, they got out of there and I wasjust like, man, that is so hard because you

(27:41):
love her, you.
But you're trying to have this greatexperience.
But on the other hand,
you don't know what's out there, right?You don't have no idea whether.
If. If it's an evil entity,
a nice entity,
right?I mean, how do you.
How do you handle that?Do you guys.
Before you go into these places, do you doresearch?
Do you have a certain,

(28:02):
I don't know, little kind of things you do,like a little system or a little,
you know, hey, every time we go to a place wedo this, you know what I mean?

Speaker C (28:14):
Sometimes we'll want to know everything and then sometimes we'd like to go
in blindly, especially for me, because I wantto rely on my senses a lot and I don't want to
be influenced by stories or what,
you know, a brief history is good.

Speaker B (28:30):
Yeah, we have a lot of these places now, but based on,
say, the small reputation we're buildingwithin the community that we can get actually,
you know,
solo investigations.
Whereas initially we go back beyond three
years.
You're part of a paranormal group of 30 odd
people going to look at these places and it'sgreat.

(28:51):
And that's.
That was more research at the time because wewere learning the history then.
I love the idea of having a little guide ofwhat the place is about what activity they've
previously gotten in those,
you know, different locations, because then itgives you something to actually call out to.
Now if we go in there, it's one thing to go inthere, go in there blind, because that will
give us, you know, that it has that ominouseeriness about it.

(29:13):
It gets you really tuned in really quick.
But to know that if there is a entity, if
there is something that is evil, you know, IWould want to call that to that person.

Speaker C (29:24):
Yes.

Speaker B (29:24):
I wouldn't want to avoid the actual fact that this actual person is there.
And that's the thing we've said before before,like if something did happen to mon, 100%,
like I'm a little reckless.
But when we do this stuff, but at the same
time we provoke out in, in a respectful way.

Speaker A (29:40):
Yeah.

Speaker B (29:40):
So I would call, I wouldn't have any hesitation to call it out, call out
whoever it was that was actually harmingMonica.
That was the case, and say, just, you know,
chase me.
Here we go, let's go.
You know, I mean, come, come at me instead.
Little do I know that said before in a coupleof other podcasts that if I ever went to a

(30:01):
medium and had a,
you know, aura check,
I think I'm pretty up.
I don't know what's around me, whatpotentially has just latched on.
Sometimes I could feel like I, yeah, we were,
we were a little reckless at times and youknow, inviting, you know, certain spirits home
with us, you know, when, you know, based onfeeling empathy towards the situation and they

(30:25):
thinking they're kids, that they weren't kids.
Maybe, maybe, maybe not.
One waking up next morning and seeinghandprints on the ceiling of a little child.
And it's a 10 foot high ceiling, you know, andthat's because I invited a child home with me.
So go figure that one.

Speaker A (30:40):
Yeah. So let, let's, let's talk about that more.
That was my next question.
It sounds like you have invited spirits orspirits have tagged along and gone to your
home.
Tell me about that.
Like you told me about the handprints.
Anything else that kind of happened that you
were like, okay,
yeah, you know, what's going on here?

Speaker C (31:01):
Well, we'd keep all this is at our previous house and we'd keep all the
paranormal equipment in our walk in wardrobe.
So there was a lot happening in there.
We'd have devices going off when we thought,
okay, well,
I'd see lots of shadows out of the corner ofmy eye and said to Anthony when he got home

(31:25):
from work, a lot of times we need toinvestigate because I saw something again.
So we'd get the equipment out,
the music box would start going off,
the SLS camera would pick things up, climbingin the wardrobe and that sort of thing.
I saw a figure standing over Anthony.

Speaker B (31:44):
One night that made me feel great.
When I woke up the next morning, John, I tell
you because M says you were passed out ofsleep.
And I looked over in this day's sort of, youKnow that mid sleeping state where you're
focused necessarily taken.
You're out of focus a little.
Right.
So everything was a little blurred monster.
There was some big *** entity.
Right.
Leaning over you, looking at you while you'reasleep.

(32:06):
While you're asleep. And I. That doesn't makeme feel good at all.

Speaker A (32:09):
Right.

Speaker C (32:09):
No, scare me was half asleep.

Speaker B (32:12):
One just goes back to sleep.
Okay.
I'm going.
I've seen that before.
Thank him.
It's okay.

Speaker A (32:18):
Yeah.

Speaker C (32:19):
Hey. It dawned on me what had happened.
And I'm like, holy.
But we had knocking on our bedroom door when
no one was there.

Speaker B (32:30):
I don't know what happened there.
This is weird because the,
you know, been because of this one time at theold Parramatta jail, because when we welcomed
this.
Well, I welcomed the spirit home the next
morning when Mon said, what the hell is thaton the ceiling?
You know, and there was a handprint.
We did a little investigating around it.
And the way I worked out the actual age ofthis handprint, it was only one hand, by the

(32:53):
way, on a ten foot high ceiling.
There was a canvas that all the,
my dad's, all the grandchildren gave to myfather at his 80th birthday.
And you got these handprints.
My nephew's four at the time, two handprints.
So I put my hand next to his hand, took aphoto,
went back home, stood on a chair.
I'm six foot four at full reach.
To put my palm flat on the ceiling.
Yeah.

(33:13):
And I took a photo of the handprint next to myhand and it's identical size to a 4 year old.
So our youngest children at the time wouldhave been 12, give or take.
And we gave them free reign.
We said, look, if you can touch the ceiling,
go ahead and do it.
I mean, stand on the chair, stand on thewindowsill, do whatever it takes to maybe see
if you can do it.
No one could do it.
And they're all taught, they're all talking.
So we left that place and guess what, we leftthe handprint there too.

(33:36):
So that's okay.
So whatever's there, staying there.

Speaker A (33:40):
Yeah.

Speaker B (33:40):
You know, but again that was something that again we looked at, we went,
what the **** just happened?Yeah,
that's the flip of it.
Although being a little reckless, it can
cause.
Yeah, we should be more of ourselves.

Speaker A (33:55):
Yeah.

Speaker B (33:56):
I don't think we do enough.
And I don't think because we're green to this
industry, because mine has so much experienceunder her belt, we just.

Speaker C (34:03):
Get so carried away with what we're doing and then it's the end of the night or
early hours of the morning, and we're like,yes, we had a great night.
Let's go.
And then the next morning we wake up and we
say,
we didn't.
Say we didn't anything.
I was going to ask ourselves.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah.

Speaker A (34:23):
Because that.
That's what typically every paranormal
investigator tells me.
Before they leave,
they do two things.
One, they say, whatever spirits are here, you
can't come home with us.
You need to say, okay, you do say that.
And then they.
Then they.
Crystal.
They have crystals and sage.
And they do that.
And now sometimes it doesn't work.

(34:44):
Yeah, and sometimes it does.
One of the things I was going to ask you,
Monique, is with a lot of these places you goto, especially asylums or, you know, a certain
institution, hospitals, there were little kidsthere and they didn't have a mother.
So they see you and they go,
hey,
she seems like a nice woman.

(35:06):
I'm going to go home with her.
Is that sometimes you.
Have you ever felt that you kind of talkedabout with the handprint, but have you ever
felt like you were like, wait a minute, what'stouching my hand?
Or,
you know, you look behind you and you, like.
Seems like a little kid maybe having a little
fun with you?

Speaker C (35:23):
Yeah. I've picked up on children quite a.

Speaker A (35:25):
Lot.

Speaker C (35:28):
At Parramatta Jail when we were investigating, prior to the handprint.
So we had a spirit box set up with a portalthat filtered out all the white noise, so only
voices were coming through.
And we heard distinctively, twice.
Hi, Mummy.
And yeah,

(35:48):
so we were trying to tap into that andcommunicate with that spirit.
And I think he said his name was Benjamin orsomething like that.
And he actually.
Kids love him for some reason.

Speaker B (36:01):
Yeah, go figure that ****, right?

Speaker A (36:03):
Yeah, right, right.
Yeah, you're a big kid.

Speaker C (36:07):
He was really feeling empathy towards this little boy.
Supposed little.
And so he felt this little boy holding his
hand.
So you can tell that story and that's why it
followed us home.

Speaker A (36:22):
Yeah, I'd love to hear it.

Speaker B (36:23):
The equipment at the base of a set of stairs, and I'm getting my whole right side
felt like it was in an ice bath.
It's like you get the pins and needles feeling
without the numbness.
And that's exactly what happened.
And so I said to.
I think he may be holding my hand.
I mean, he's gotta be close to me.
But that was the time, I suppose.
I suppose that with every.
With everything we've done, when it comes to

(36:44):
children, it pulls on some heartstrings.
Right.
And again I'm saying it was a child.
I mean, it's really hard to decipher exactly
who.
Who we were communicating on.
On the night.
That.
Yeah, that portal, when it detracts the whitenoise from the spirit box,
this is when it's manipulated.
I mean, no children's voice should come out on

(37:05):
this.
Do you know what I mean?Like.
Like, by.
By theory, it just shouldn't happen.
I don't know.
I'm.
I'm more convinced that, you know, being a.
Even though they cut the wide, you know,basically circulates through the.
The radio telecommunication towers, et cetera.
99.999% of these voices are always adults and
male, female.
It could be growls, could be words, sentences,

(37:25):
et cetera.
Yeah,
yeah.
But the child's voice be so definitive.
And.
Yeah, I. That was one night I got very
emotional.
A lot of the other stuff becomes very factual
in my head, and I just got to try and decipherit real quick and work out what's happening
and.
And, you know, run like a bull out of thegate.
Right.
And just go after it.
But this pulled me back so much.

(37:46):
Yeah. And that's.

Speaker C (37:47):
So I just want to go.
And that was the end of the night.
We had to be out of there.
And he felt this child holding his hand, andhe said, look, we have to go, but you can come
with us if you like.
What's another child?We've got eight.
Yeah.

Speaker B (38:06):
And a combined family of eight children from the age of 30 down to 15. 30
down to 15.
So I said, yeah, we've got that many at home.
So what's one more?
That's basically how I said, there you go.
And one goes, maybe shouldn't have said that.
That's all right.
He's fine.
It's Ben.
He's a little kid, you know.

Speaker A (38:22):
Yeah, come on.

Speaker B (38:28):
Going to some spider form and, you know,
manifest.
I don't know.
Yeah,
who knows?Like, that was.
Yeah, that was a nice story.
And Joe had been a very, very, very early
investigation.
I love that because it sort of molds, you
know, what we've done to where we are now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And how my character has evolved,

(38:48):
you know, by paranormal investigating theinfluence of Mon.
And like you said, using your body as aphysical instrument to be susceptible, let
yourself feel it as opposed to just look stuffall the time, you know.

Speaker C (39:01):
That's your most accurate paranormal tool, I keep saying.

Speaker A (39:06):
Absolutely,
absolutely.
And, you know, one of the biggest things is
the energy,
whether it be good or bad, just doesn'tdisappear.
It goes into things.
Right.
So maybe went into a chair, maybe it went intothe walls, maybe it went into this bed.
And you know, that's really interesting to metoo.

(39:26):
Have you ever.
Have you ever been on a paranormal
investigation?And, you know, we're talking about voices and
spirits.
Have you touched an object or something and
been like, wow, this is a lot of energy in it.

Speaker B (39:40):
When you did the.
You aware of the Estes method?

Speaker A (39:45):
Yes, I am.
Yep.

Speaker B (39:46):
Beautiful.
So when we were at the quarantine station, the
most recent time we were there.
Yeah. And the gravediggers cottage, thatsounds Azirian from the outside.
It does look like it could be in theconjuring.

(40:06):
Right.
And it's a small cottage in the middle of
nowhere on this.
On this tire in the quarantine station.

Speaker A (40:12):
Yeah.

Speaker B (40:13):
All the grave diggers for everyone that had passed away, the grave diggers would
reside there.
The doctors would also reside there as well.
And a lot of dark **** happened in there.
The stories started to unfold and we heard
even more stories the other day when we werethere just talking to our friend who's one of
the guides.
Yeah. When you go in there, it's just a. It's.
That's a quaint little cottage, right.

(40:34):
And you go.
And it's.
There's no. There's no electric.
There's no electricity.
So.
Okay.
First part of it was Mel opens the door, saysto me, okay, Anthony, it's all yours.
Said, yeah, this is what.

Speaker A (40:47):
Come on.

Speaker B (40:48):
I leveled up.
This is great.
Right?
So the door's a little ajar.
And I've just.
I. I do this.
And my love, she loves it and hates it every
time I do this because I knock, really, I'dknock really loud on the door a couple of
times.
I go, hello.
And I've taken the camera and just gone in thenight vision camera, just gone through there.

(41:08):
And just about 5, 10 minutes by myself walkingaround,
switched the actual IR on the camera off justto show everyone what I'm looking at.
And it's pitch black.
You can't see a foot in front of you.
But down the corridor is a chair.
And the chair has been notably a triggerobject for a dark spirit.
Where the guides, when they leave,
numerous of them have actually said when theygo to close the door at the end of the night

(41:32):
and they turn around, they say goodbye,they've seen this entity sitting on the chair
and a real heavy entity.
So of course we said, whilst we're in there,
no. Oh, yeah.
What do we call it?
No, no,
no. Because it came up with something likechair.
The one of the device said chair of Torture.
So that's what we.
That.
That's what we named it.
The whole night,

(41:55):
one turns around and says, oh, can I just dothe yes in this other room?
I said, no, Chair of torture.
Go Right.
I said, you're there.

Speaker A (42:02):
Come on, sit down.
What are you doing?

Speaker B (42:04):
And she actually sat in there and it was that.
You're talking about the weight.
Something what that she was like for.
It would have been a good half an hour.
Right.
And telling us to get out through the.
Through the.
The spirit box, saying that it's you.
And. And then as soon as I took a step away,
screaming, don't, don't, don't.

(42:25):
Like this.
Something was happening, right.
And she doesn't remember saying any of this
stuff.

Speaker C (42:29):
And then some of it.

Speaker B (42:29):
So. Yeah, some of it, yeah.
And it was really dynamic for what we wanted
to experience.
But it really grabbed me.

Speaker C (42:37):
It wasn't when I was sitting on the chair, it wasn't that I could feel something
underneath the chair.
Like I wasn't picking up on the energy of thechair.
However,
I felt a dark energy hovering over me and itwas blocking out the only light that was
coming from the camera.

Speaker A (42:56):
Yeah.

Speaker C (42:57):
So that.
That was terrifying because it's pitch black
and I could feel that energy standing over meas I'm sitting in the chair.

Speaker B (43:06):
It's what you get for sitting in the chair of torture.

Speaker A (43:08):
Chair of torture.

Speaker B (43:09):
That's it.

Speaker A (43:10):
Yeah. I think it was pretty obvious that tortured chair.
No, I awarded whatever I go, yeah, whatever.

Speaker B (43:21):
It's a chair.
I'll just sit in the ******* piece.
You'll be fine.

Speaker A (43:24):
Come on.
Just sick.
What are you doing?
That looks comfortable.
What do you think is the biggest difference
between investigators, Paranormalinvestigators like yourself in Australia and
paranormal investigators in the United States?Or do you think you guys are just the same?
Is there any difference?

Speaker B (43:43):
I think we're different.
As much as I can openly say I've got a man
crush on a couple of these guys over there,based on who they are and what they've
achieved, I think it's brilliant.
Right.
So take my hat off to them.
Like the.
The major difference is the word demon that
comes up.
You know, a lot of these plays when they get
caught out to be demonic.
Anything that we've ever done research on

(44:05):
demonic is a out of this realm conjuredspirit.
Right. Something that has.
Has actually it's in.
It's inhuman.
You know, the two of us haven't reallyexperienced that.
Right.
So I'M I'm don't want to be speaking out of
turn by saying this, but a lot of what happenswhen the devices come up and they say these
words and on the content that we do watch fromthese are these American YouTubers,

(44:27):
that's the highlight.
Do you remember when you're saying that when
things are produced, you know, I mean forcontent purposes, to get the clicks and get
the followers and views, et cetera, you know,
comes the key word, right?And it's like, okay, well if this is demonic,
****, I'm going there.
You know what I mean?

Speaker C (44:42):
There is human health, right?

Speaker B (44:44):
When we get those words on our devices out here, we laugh.
I don't mean that disrespect, right?But we turn around, we look at each other and
we just go, no, no way.
Like, seriously, it's like, it's like, it'slike demon again.
No, you're not like.
And I say, who are you?
Seriously?Tell me your name.

Speaker A (45:01):
Little, little, little.

Speaker B (45:03):
Do I know? Yeah, mate, I'm probably going to bite off
more than I can chew one day, right?Because I think, you know, if something does
come up and I will,
I don't know if I do this ever again becauseI've seen too many movies to see how dark and
evil things.

Speaker A (45:16):
Right.

Speaker B (45:17):
But that's the biggest difference.
I don't think we buy into that as much.
Yeah, yeah, we, the content is eerie.
The content, you know,
I'll say to you, it has some ominous tonesunderneath it and a few little effects and
some music just to boost it a little.
But it's, it's, it's so raw.
But we just really, we shut that option down.
Not out of ignorance, it's just out of our ownpersonal belief.

Speaker C (45:41):
Yeah.

Speaker B (45:42):
Until we go over there, if we go over there and we go to the Sally House and we
go to,
I don't know if we haunted Hill House or anyof these places that we've seen that,
you know, so called demonic entities residethere, then I experience one on one, then I
will apologize, I can tell you that right now.

Speaker A (46:00):
I apologize, demon.
I am so sorry.

Speaker B (46:04):
We'll put something up straight away and say, look, you guys are *******
brilliant.
I mean, love you make sure you collab with a
couple of wonderful Australians that are justgood company.
But you know that, that would be awesome.
But then, you know, I will, I would admit when
I'm wrong most times.

Speaker A (46:17):
Yeah, there you go.
There you go.
Well, see here,
maybe I, maybe I'm just bite into the hype butin Australia,
there's like a bunch of snakes that can killyou, spiders that can kill you.
I mean like, is that right?
Not to get away from the paranormal, but youbasically, you could go out into your, what,

(46:38):
your yard and the snake's gonna kill you.
I mean, what's that?
What the hell is going on?

Speaker B (46:42):
We've got this gorgeous reserve at the back of our place.
It's on a. It's on a golf course.
And there's snakes, there's spiders.

Speaker C (46:51):
Deadliest snakes.

Speaker B (46:56):
Never seen them yet.
Spiders empty.
When they did the excavation when we got ourhouse built, there was hearing everywhere.
I got to get mate of Mike come over and pestcontrol the place.
He's laughing, he said off he's going, youshouldn't be afraid.
I said, mate, I don't want this.
Yeah, this is where it comes to.
But you.
The fear of what you guys have,
which I love because you know about thespiders, right?
Number one, because there was a. There was animage that circulated when there was a massive

(47:19):
flood, a period of rain that we had here andit flooded a town so much in Cutley and in
rural.
Is it like country New South Wales orsomewhere in Australia.
And it brought out all these hunts andspiders.
Now it got to a point where the whole paddocklooked like it was nine, but it was all
spiders.
The whole house was covered in spiders and
everything was like they brought their.

Speaker C (47:40):
Webs above the surface.

Speaker B (47:41):
It was right.
And then that was the fear.
A couple of people strikers who said, there'sno way I'm coming to Australia because my wife
can't stand me.
Like the spider scenario, you know.
But it's not that bad.
I can promise you guys if you ever want to
come out here, it's not that bad.
You rarely see them and majority of harmless.
But at the same time no one likes, you know,picking up spiders, creepy crawlies anyway.

(48:02):
Right.

Speaker C (48:02):
You've just got to watch out when they're,
you know, old things laying around your yardsand stuff like that.
If you do that careful because you'll get ared back spider.
They like to hide in old bricks and timber andstuff like that.
So you've just got tidy.

Speaker B (48:20):
Yeah, they're ugly.
There's no doubt in that.
You don't have to worry about it.

Speaker C (48:24):
When you're picking things up often ground and.

Speaker A (48:29):
Yeah, obviously.
Now one of the things that's kind of similarin both our countries is indigenous people and
the different spirits they have and theirbeliefs and everything.
So for example, here in where I live inWisconsin,
there was a Number of indigenous people,Native American people.

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And there are burial grounds all over thisstate.
Okay.
Like, literally parks have it.
And one of the most famous cases here in
Wisconsin.
You guys can look at this.
You know, whenever you get a time, there was amansion called the Summer Wind Mansion that

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was built upon a Native American burialground.

Speaker C (49:14):
Yeah.

Speaker A (49:15):
And it was considered at one time in the entire United States,
the most haunted house,
mansion, whatever you want to say in theUnited States.
So do you guys have anything similar to thatin Australia, where maybe there's some haunted
places you guys want to check out?Or maybe you can't check out because the

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indigenous people are like, you better not gothere.
Something's really bad gonna happen to you.

Speaker C (49:43):
No, unfortunately, our indigenous people whisper cases like that.
It's not spoken about.
It's kind of hidden.
It's like the dirty secret,
so to speak.
So if a house built on a burial ground,
nobody knows about it unless they dig.

Speaker A (50:00):
Wow.

Speaker C (50:02):
Yeah.

Speaker A (50:02):
Yeah.

Speaker C (50:03):
Some of the places they will talk about housed indigenous slaves in cellars and
stuff like that that are restless,
but not on burial grounds.
We don't know about anything.

Speaker A (50:16):
Yeah.

Speaker B (50:16):
But it sounds really hectic.

Speaker C (50:18):
Yeah, we want to go there.

Speaker B (50:19):
What's the house called?

Speaker A (50:20):
Yeah,
yeah.
So the interesting thing about Summer Wind
Mansion, it's up in northern Wisconsin, and itis no longer there because it mysteriously
burned down.
It was struck.
So it was struck by lightning.
This.
It's a great history of it.
So it was this beautiful mansion off the lake.
I mean, just absolutely gorgeous.

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I mean, just you.
You know, you couldn't have a. Basically a
postcard moment.
I mean, and people who live there went insane.
People would, like, there were portals there.
There were people who, you know, like, workers
there who would be, you know, renovating thehouse, and they would be like, I'm not coming
back tomorrow.
I'm leaving.

(51:00):
No,
you can have my tools.
I don't care.
I'm not coming back.
Because it was.
Got so bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It got so bad.
And then eventually what happened to it was
struck by lightning and burned down.
And a lot of paranormal groups.
It's on private property, so you have to just
probably, like, in Australia, you have to askpermission to go on.

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So they investigate it, and they found out,well,
basically, it's on a Native American burialground.
That's one problem.
The other problem is supposedly has differentportals to different existence in there and, I
don't know, to different worlds.
They found that out, and now it's just ruins.
There's hardly anything left.

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They wanted Someone.
And I don't know if this has ever happened toyou guys, maybe in your country, somebody
wanted to rebuild, and everyone has stoppedit.
Everyone says, no, you cannot rebuild.
We will not let you.
And I'm like, okay, well, maybe we could move
some stuff.
But no,
I don't know.

(52:04):
I mean, you know what I mean?
That would be a fun job,
bro.
Dig everybody up and move away.

Speaker B (52:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker A (52:12):
It's crazy.
Yeah. So there obviously is a big differencebetween.
Do you guys have to.
Obviously, do you have.
I didn't do.
I did some research on some of the haunted
places in Australia,
but what I found out, you guys don't typicallyhave a lot of haunted houses, because here we
have the Amityville house, we have the Sallyhouse, we have on and on and on and on and on.

Speaker B (52:37):
Stop teasing me.

Speaker A (52:38):
Yeah.

Speaker C (52:42):
One. Okay, there is one.
It's meant to be Australia's most haunted
house.
And it's called Monte Cristo Homestead.
And they used to run ghost tours there for
years and years and years.
I never got to go there.
And just recently they stopped everythingbecause the owner passed away.

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She left the house to her four children.
Four or five children.
And the son who was running the tours was.
Wasn't in the will.
So he.
The house was left to the four daughters or
three daughters.
And they've said, no, we're not doing it
anymore.
So you can't go there.
They'd have haunted getaways.

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You could.
You could stay there.
And it was meant to be off the charts.

Speaker B (53:29):
Yeah.

Speaker A (53:29):
Yeah.

Speaker B (53:30):
Gosh, there's.
There was one place we looked at, and again,
we've got no way whatsoever of getting accessto it, but there was an article,
go back a little bit, 20 years, give or take.
And this is somewhere just as a suburb close
to Parramatta, which is sort of southwesternSydney.
And this house had Ed and Lorraine Warrenactually come and investigate it.

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Now, the fact they came all the way here to dothis and it was supposed to be the.
Like they said they had told the residents atthe time, you either move out or you die.
That's that.
That was in this article.
Now, the house is still here,
but the house is rented out and it's insuburbia somewhere out, you know, Kellyville
or wherever it is.

(54:12):
I don't know for the life of me why if they.
If they wrote an article like this and they
said this is the facts of what had actuallyhappened, people.
Now,
that's not their ignorance.
The fear of wanting to admit what's actually
there.
Right. Is maybe.
Maybe that's stopping people from actually
allowing even the paranormal investigatorseven more access to places like this.

Speaker C (54:35):
The average person doesn't embrace.
Sorry.
Doesn't embrace it the same way you guys do.
So I know a lot of places, if someone buys ahaunted house over there,
they will advertise and say, yes, this islike.
And.
And it might be an Airbnb.
And they rent it out for people to comethrough and investigate over here.

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A lot.
Like the indigenous burial grounds.
It's like a little secret.
So they don't want to acknowledge it.

Speaker B (55:05):
It's a very niche market.
It's not.
It's.
No. It's nowhere near to the same magnitude
of.
You know.
Which is why we're so excited aboutpotentially getting ourselves on a plane at
the moment to States, you know.
Yeah. And I think.
I think it's just played down quite a lot.
Although there's.
There is the paranormal group and they're
incredibly passionate individuals with thesame drive.

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We've got to try and uncover the unknown.
But, you know, the majority, they say.
And we don't want to.
We do not want to borrow this.

Speaker C (55:34):
There's a couple of old houses that you can visit that are owned by councils and
stuff like that.
A lot of them aren't open to filming.
So if we want to go and visit one of theseplaces, it would be in a group situation on a.
A night tour,
so to speak.
Trying to get access to what.

Speaker B (55:53):
Yeah. Then the group tours take away everything too.
Because I think as much as a group energizethe spiritual energy of the place,
it completely zones me out.
It's a. I react differently to it all.
Notice.

Speaker C (56:06):
See, too many people become overstimulated and then you can't focus on
what you're doing.

Speaker A (56:12):
Sure, sure.

Speaker C (56:13):
Too many sounds around.
You can't listen out to stir it.

Speaker A (56:16):
Right, right.
Yeah, that's.
That's really interesting to me.
So would you say that the average Australian
person believes in ghosts or do you thinkthey're more skeptical?

Speaker C (56:28):
More skeptical.
Because you get.
If you think of where the newer Australianshave come from, we've come from mainly Britain
and sure.
The convicts.
And they're like, yeah, yeah, right, mate,whatever.
You know, very like black and white.

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They don't see things in the gray.

Speaker A (56:51):
Yeah, the majority.

Speaker C (56:53):
But they're slowly opening up.

Speaker B (56:57):
Family and friends are just sitting back going, okay, we.
We love you guys and we are very excited whatyou're doing, but you're simple.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And seriously, like.
But I don't.
It's like you said, like, you,
yourself and your wife love the stories andlove talking to people about their
institutions, but, yeah, that gives you thedbg.

(57:20):
You get white knuckles out of it becauseyou're gridding so tight, you know, that you
would not feel yourself being able to allowyourself to go and experience it, which I
think you should do one day.
You got to get up.

Speaker A (57:29):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker B (57:31):
Because you've got so much passion in what you're saying.
And, yes,
I reckon you've got that much knowledgealready.
I mean, you talk about all that respect,trying to equip yourself with the right things
to say.
You already know that, I reckon.

Speaker A (57:43):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
If I could say to you guys, the best place
would be to start, that you would absolutelylove.
And this is actually kind of funny becauseit's totally different.
There is a place in America called Savannah,Georgia.
It is.

Speaker C (58:01):
I love to go.

Speaker A (58:02):
Usually number one is haunted place in America.
And people there.
Every place is haunted.
I mean, literally every place.
It's crazy because I visited a couple of
times.
I've gone tours to numerous ghost tours and
interviewed people from there.
Here's the thing that just cracks me up is soI. I was there on business, and I was just

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hanging out and everything, and I got on thetour,
and the tours, they take you to as, like, thegraveyard, you remember.
So in America, you probably learned this maybewith the Civil War.
In Savannah, they did not, which isinteresting,
because I love history.
They did not have any real Civil War battles

(58:48):
in Savannah.
However,
when the Union army, when they marchedthrough, they basically just laid waste to
everything.
I mean, did math, right?So that's not good.
Right.
The other thing, in the cemeteries there, when
the Union soldiers came,
they desecrated all the graves.
Like they threw.

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They threw, like, mausoleums.
They threw the bodies out because it was cold,
and they would live in there, or a newly freshgrave,
they would take the body, throw it out, andlay in the.
Lay in the grave.
So that whole entire graveyard,
happy soul cybercrime is just ripe forparanormal experiences.

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And the other thing was really funny to me wasI was.
I was by myself.
And so I did my thing and I walked around.
And when I was going past the graveyard bymyself, about midnight, by the way, I was
walking past, and I got my phone out because Isaid, hi.
They would not let you in the graveyard duringthe tour at night because people had been

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claimed they had been beaten.
Like, beaten like a dude comes up to you,punches you,
rat hair pulled, nauseous, everything.
So they said, no, you can't go in.
Well, me being stupid, you know, me andAnthony,
we're cut from the same.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're kind of the same.

(01:00:18):
So, like, I went up right to the gates, and Itried taking pictures at the.
And my phone wouldn't work.
Would not take a picture.
Not one.
So I get back to my hotel, and I, you know,
try taking pictures, and it worked.
And then I go downstairs and I talk to the
manager, and like I said, everyone.
Savannah knows everything's haunted, and theylove talking about it.
So I'm talking to the manager, and I. And I.

(01:00:40):
And I tell her, yeah.
So I'm walking past the graveyard.
I'm trying to take pictures and everything.
And she goes, honey, you do not do that.
You don't go near that graveyard at night.
You're crazy.
And she took out.
I'm not kidding you.
She took out this crystal,
and she, like, rubs it on me.
She's, like, rubbing it on me.
I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

(01:01:02):
I'm married.
Manny, what's going on?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hey, hey, hey.
I have to pay extra for this.
What's going on?
And so she's like, okay, you know, you're finenow, but if something happens, let me know.
And I'm like, okay.
I mean, that's the way they treat it there.
And they invite people.
Like, she says, the talking to the man.

(01:01:23):
She goes, oh, my house is haunted.
My grandma, she died at my house,unfortunately,
and she still haunts.
And I'd say hi to grandma.
I see grandma walking down the halls.

Speaker B (01:01:35):
I make two copies.
That's it.

Speaker A (01:01:37):
Yeah, it's nothing to them.
And every, like, everything around downtown
Savannah is haunted.
All the bars of the apartments,
and they have a lot of really cool tours and alot of great paranormal groups who are just
like, yeah, come on, join the group.
Let's.
Let's go out tonight, find some.
And not to say you find something every night,but most of the night you do because of the

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activity.
A couple homes, they had to close down becausethe paranormal investigators going in there
kept telling them, you got.
You got to close it down.
I'm walking.
I'm walking out with bruises on my back.
I'm walking out with scratches.
You got to close it down just to shut it down.
Don't put it on the tour anymore.
So, you know places like that in America,

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which is weird to me, because we don't have,in my opinion, the rich history of maybe,
like, in Australia or a UK or something likethat.
But we, like, have kind of like quality overquantity.

Speaker C (01:02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:02:35):
Like really, really deep stuff, you know.
And that's crazy.
Yeah.

Speaker B (01:02:41):
That's one's secret of little.
Little obsession.
Right now she wants that definitive proof of
getting scratched.
Right.
And so I think we've just found a place to goSend her on a plane by herself to Savannah.
And she can get all the scratches.

Speaker A (01:02:55):
Yeah, right.
Let her.
Let her go crazy with that.

Speaker B (01:02:58):
Well, that.
But that is crazy if an entity can really do
that.

Speaker A (01:03:02):
Yes.

Speaker B (01:03:02):
And create that force,
you know, that's.
That's so powerful now.
It's one thing that disgruntled,
you know, they've got it.
They've got reasons to be ******.
Right.
So they come out more aggressive spirits.
But that is ridiculous amounts of energy.
We think about manipulating your phone and.
Manipulate.
Yeah, you can tell that story in a sec,

(01:03:23):
actually.
That's a good one.
Like manipulating your phone and.
Or any of those devices, I think.
Takes a lot of energy to start it off anyway.
Draining batteries.

Speaker A (01:03:31):
Absolutely.

Speaker B (01:03:33):
Always say, use our energy on top of the energy of the devices.
You know, whatever it takes for you tomanifest to show yourself to us and.
Or interact with, you know, what we've putaround the place.
That's what we asked.
Mon's got this story.
Did you want to tell you about.
It's going back to a few.
A few conversations, but this is when you said

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a definitive moment.
You know, I talked about the drag in the back
and you know what I thought was a body.

Speaker C (01:04:01):
Yeah.
For me, it was in the same asylum.
And we had been walking on the bottom level
and distinctly heard heavy footsteps on the.
The floor above it.
So it was three floors in this building andstopped in our tracks.
And we're just hearing clomp, clomp, clomp,clomp.

(01:04:24):
Apparently when a person, a physical person iswalking on that floor, you hear the
floorboards squeaking.

Speaker B (01:04:31):
So this was piercing.
This was a thud all the way.

Speaker C (01:04:34):
Through the floor,
like someone was wearing boots.
And we could follow it.
I was following it.
And this is on a little TikTok clip.
I was following the sound with my finger.
And so we knew exactly where it was.
And of course we had to go up and investigate.
So no one was around at this time of night.

(01:04:55):
Everyone had left the site besides ourselves,
our guide and another staff member who was waydown the front of the property in the office.
So we said to the tour guide, is anyone upthere?
And she said, well, there shouldn't be.

Speaker B (01:05:11):
She had the look of fear.
She was as her.
As her job, and she did not want to Move upthere either.

Speaker C (01:05:18):
We said.
Anthony said, you've got to take us up there.
And we go up there.
We've got to make sure there's no one there.
And we wanted to know exactly what room it wascoming from.
So we go up there.
And I kept saying, where was it, Diane?
And she said.
She took us through this little maze, and shesaid it would have been coming from around
this room.

(01:05:39):
And this room was.
It was like a hospital ward.
And you had three partitions in the center of
it that were about waist high.
And I guess they divide the beds up for thepatient.
And we're in there for a while.

Speaker B (01:05:54):
And we call him out straight away.
The first thing I say, okay, we've heard you.
We know you're here.
And there is supposed to be man.
And very. And. And. And Di said, I hope it'snot who I think it is, because if it is, he's
not nice.
That was what she said before we went up
there.
So you continue that because.
Yeah, that was the.
That's initially what we did.
We had to call him up, say, okay, if you arehere, we need to know you're here now.

Speaker C (01:06:17):
Yeah, yeah.
So we'd invited him to come forward,
basically.
And we started hearing really faint tapping
that we thought were coming from the windowand said, did you hear that?
And thought maybe somebody outside.
And Diane said, we're on the third floor.
There's no one tapping on the windows outside.

Speaker A (01:06:39):
Yeah, right.

Speaker C (01:06:40):
And what about an animal?
No, because there's no trees.
There's,
you know, no possums that are hanging kind oftapping on the windows.
We. It was a bit louder, and it came a littlebit closer to us.
And after us expressing, okay, well, if thatwas you, can you repeat this noise?

(01:07:00):
Do it again.

Speaker B (01:07:01):
Knock on the.
I. Knock on the wall as well.
Can you repeat something?We're just trying to get an instant response.
Then we say, do it again for us.

Speaker C (01:07:08):
Do it again.

Speaker A (01:07:08):
So.

Speaker C (01:07:09):
And then we heard what sounded like tapping on the far partition, the furthest
away.
So we determined that, no, it wasn't outside,it was inside.
And we kind of froze.
Okay, we're interested now.
And then it was slow tapping, getting a littlebit louder, coming closer to us.

(01:07:29):
It was like it came to the next partition,tap, tap, tap.
Said, okay, what the hell is that?
And then it was, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap.
And it was getting louder and louder to the
point it was directly in front of us, probablyabout 3 foot in front of us was the last
partition.
And it got to the Point where it was bangingand it was bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang,

(01:07:55):
bang, bang.
So I just couldn't explain it.
You couldn't debunk that because it was rightin front of us.
You can see where the sound was coming from,but you couldn't see what was doing it.
And it was banging.
And I've never been so terrified in my life.
The sound still haunts me.

Speaker A (01:08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker C (01:08:17):
And I just couldn't explain.
Lane.
We were stunned.

Speaker B (01:08:20):
It's one thing to know that we felt and heard that.
It's another thing to have it again.
It's the bonus, the fact that everything was
caught.

Speaker C (01:08:28):
Yeah.

Speaker B (01:08:28):
You know, so that was.
That was.
It's not.
And it was aggressive.
It was banging towards, like it was so close
to us.
And then.
Rephrase him.
I look around, go, what the hell was that?
And I go over to the partition, look over.
There's nothing there.
It's like.
There's nothing.
There's no marks at all.
At all.
And you look on one of the doors and this was
to show the.
The inhumane treatment.

(01:08:50):
You know, one of the cell doors, they're real
thick metal door, timber door.
And then on, you know, with pane of glass,
it's about that thick that you can't actuallybreak to be able to get through.
It's only a little strip.
Right.
That they.
They look through.
But there were nail marks down into the door.
There were teeth marks in the door.

Speaker A (01:09:08):
There was.

Speaker B (01:09:09):
There was so much proof.
You can't expect something's going to be nice.
There's.
And.

Speaker A (01:09:13):
No.

Speaker B (01:09:14):
And that's.
And that's funny because.
Yeah, that's crazy.
It's crazy because that's still scarred.
Mon. And Mon can handle quite a bit and hasseen quite a bit.
Yeah.
A lot more, like I said, than I've ever
experienced,
but enough to understand that.
Just straighten the track.
And she grabbed on to me and she would not,you know, if I said to her, you can stay up
here now for the next 10 minutes and see whathappens.

(01:09:35):
She said, well, she would have said, no way.
You are not going anywhere.
You better.

Speaker A (01:09:38):
Yeah.

Speaker C (01:09:42):
Like you said, we got it all on camera and I've put a little clip of it on
TikTok and Instagram and you can see thatmoment and it's all clearly on camera and we
just can't wait to drop that video a fewmonths away, I think.
But it's so unbelievable.

Speaker B (01:10:02):
Yeah, it is.
That such an iconic.
To be able to get such proof, if that makessense.

Speaker A (01:10:08):
Yeah, yeah.
To even get Something like that.
Because people don't understand.
Yeah, you can go into a location and maybe getsomething right off the bat, you know, get
something happens.
You could be there for eight hours.
Nothing, you know, or maybe you think you hearsomething but there's nothing.
And that's really tough, you know, to gothrough that.

(01:10:30):
So thank you guys for doing this is I couldtalk to you for hours, you're so amazing and
have some great stories.
But before we wrap up, I have to ask.
I'm going to start with you, Monique.

Speaker C (01:10:42):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:10:43):
What is.
Would be your all time favorite place toinvestigate?
And I'm talking that, you know,
I'm giving you all the money in the world.
You can go there and you can do whatever you
want.
Where are you going?

Speaker C (01:10:59):
One place.

Speaker A (01:11:01):
We'll stay with one place.
Like top of your list.
Top of the list.

Speaker C (01:11:05):
I want to go to Waverly Hills Sanitarium.

Speaker A (01:11:08):
That's a good one.

Speaker C (01:11:09):
Yeah, that.
That would be number one.

Speaker A (01:11:12):
Nice. And why?

Speaker C (01:11:14):
Why? Because it's an asylum.
It's meant to be.
It looks to be the most well known, the most
haunted in America.
And we've seen so many of our.
The guys that we follow go there and I'd loveto experience that for myself.

(01:11:36):
See if it's as dark they say it is.

Speaker A (01:11:39):
Yeah, it's a big place.
It's a big place, guys.
I'm just telling you.

Speaker C (01:11:44):
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:11:45):
Anthony, how about you?

Speaker B (01:11:46):
I'm in between too, but I want to.
I want to go to the Sally house, tiger.
Well, and I'd say this, I was going to say theconjuring house, but the thing is you can't go
there.
Right.
So that was the other side because that wasjust very nostalgic to why I started doing all
this anyway.
Yeah,
but yeah, the Sally house, definitely, butwith a little twist because I'd love to

(01:12:06):
collab1 and I said this numerous times, youknow, if we can reach out and say like Elton
Caste from the overnight crew or even twinparanormal like.
Sure, either one of those guys.
We would love to be able to do something with
them down the track.
But.
Yeah, because then the bottom line beingthey're the inspiration to why these places
are so attractive to us.
Just want to go there.
Yeah,

(01:12:27):
but that's one John. You know, I mean likeit's such like this is what you know, I mean,
like this is.
I reckon if I research that, you ask me next
time and I will and that will be off the list.
I'll have something else.

Speaker A (01:12:38):
You bet.
You bet.
You know, you Know, one of the things is, forAmerican paranormal investigators are really
top place is Gettysburg.
Gettysburg is the place to go.
Yeah. Going to the battlefield, going to thesurrounding areas,
just because there was, you know, so much lossof life and so much tragedy and so much of

(01:13:02):
everything.
And being that a lot of the historical.
How do you say, artifacts are still there,that energy has been soaked up into that.
Right.
So that's why, you know, when I talk toparanormal investigators who have been there,
they're like, I hear musket fire.
I've seen soldiers.
I've seen little.

(01:13:23):
Little boys running around there.
I see, you know,
different things.

Speaker B (01:13:29):
They see a reenactment of the battle.
Again, that's what they.

Speaker A (01:13:31):
Correct. Yeah, correct.
Yeah. They'll do reenactments and everything,
which obviously does not help.
That kind of brings the spirits more energy.
Right.
Because they're like,
okay, are we still fighting?
Yeah, like, you know what I mean?Is that what we're still doing?
Okay, great.
I'm gonna come up and.
Yeah, so there's a. It's a great stuff onthere.

(01:13:51):
So, again, thank you so much.
You know, I love to have you guys back onagain.
This was awesome.
That's so much, like, so much fun.
You know, make sure you guys check.
Yeah.
Check out, you know, all your social sites.
Do you want to share that with my audiencewhere they can find you and maybe what's
coming up for you guys?

Speaker B (01:14:12):
Sure. All socials we've got,
you know, our content channel is Date Nightwith the Ghost Gang.
That is fresh.
It's only three weeks in.
Yeah. On YouTube, that's.
That's only three weeks, give or take.
So it's a little baby.
We're nurturing it.
And there's so much.
I'm on that.
So by all means, if you want to get a.
Anyone wants to get a overview of what we'reabout, you'll.

(01:14:33):
You'll figure us out pretty quickly by just.
Just checking out that channel.
I'm on managing all the other socials.
So Insta, Tick Tock and Facebook are basicallythe three other ones that one looks after.
But the reels that are on TikTok,
they're unedited.
Some of this stuff just has to be shared
immediately of what we've experienced.

(01:14:53):
Again,
for content purposes, see exactly what we'veactually captured.
By all means, hit that up as well.
Like they always say, it takes one second if
that to subscribe.
Like, it really show a bit of love,
man.
Join our.
Join our date night.
You know, come along with the journey always
say, buckle up.
It's going to be one hell of a ride.
Yeah.

Speaker A (01:15:12):
Love it.
Love it.
Yeah.
I will put all your links when the episode
comes out, let you guys know when it does.
And please, you know, this is.
It was so funny that you explained this datenight stuff, because I was like, do you.
Do you take people on dates or something?Is this like,
hey,
let's go.
We're. We're going here.
It's my first date.

(01:15:32):
Yeah, great.
Bring her along.
You know, the quick, really quick.
Funny thing is I've had two paranormal
investigators.
The couples actually get engaged during an
investigation.
One of them went pretty good, the otherdidn't.

(01:15:53):
They both said yes.
So, yes, they're married and have they.
But.
But, you know, it was one of those
investigations.
Things aren't going so well.
And then the guy was like, well, I got thering.
This is what I wanted to do.
So here we go.
So I love that.
That's great.
Thank you so much again.
And like I said, all the information will be
on their links in the episode notes.

(01:16:14):
And again,
stay spooky.
Thanks.
Thanks, Anthony.