October 31, 2025 • 56 mins
Welcome back to Dairyland Frights, the Midwest’s creepiest paranormal podcast! In this chilling episode, John, Brooke, and Megan uncover two of Wisconsin’s most spine-tingling legends — The Ridgeway Ghost and The Mineral Point Vampire.
First, Megan brings us Paranormal News from the Holy Hill Art Farm, where a mysterious trail-cam photo captures what appears to be a tall ghostly woman wandering the cornfields near Holy Hill, sparking thousands of Facebook reactions.
Then, John dives into the bizarre story of The Ridgeway Ghost — a shape-shifting spirit said to appear every 40 years along Highway 151 between Dodgeville and Blue Mounds. With roots in 1800s mining-town violence and folklore, this ghost allegedly killed those who saw it — sometimes appearing as a man, pig, or even a ball of fire.
Finally, Brooke brings the night home with the notorious Mineral Point Vampire, a caped figure first spotted in 1981 leaping over cemetery fences and terrifying police. The sightings continued into the 2000s, with eerie encounters at lakes and apartment buildings. Was this a true vampire, a prankster goth, or something else lurking in Wisconsin’s Driftless hills?
👻 Highlights in This Episode:-
📰 Paranormal News: The ghostly photo at Holy Hill Art Farm that had social media buzzing
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🪦 The Ridgeway Ghost: Wisconsin’s shape-shifting phantom that might actually kill you
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🐷 Pig, Woman, or Fireball? The strangest forms the Ridgeway Ghost has taken
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💀 Historical Origins: Murders, mining, and madness in 1840s Ridgeway
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🧛♂️ The Mineral Point Vampire: From police chases to lake-side terror — Wisconsin’s own Dracula legend
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🧥 The “I Was Bitten by the Mineral Point Vampire” T-shirts (and why fans still want one today)
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🐺 Werewolves, UFOs, and ley lines — why the Driftless Area might be Wisconsin’s paranormal hotspot
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🧠 Team discussion: Are these tales real hauntings or local legends gone wild?
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Ridgeway, Wisconsin — Haunted Highway 151
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Mineral Point — Graceland Cemetery & Ludden Lake
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Holy Hill Art Farm — Hubertus, WI
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The Walker House Inn — Mineral Point’s historic (and possibly haunted) tavern
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“It can turn into a pig, a woman, or a ball of fire — Wisconsin ghosts are multitaskers.”
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“Imagine a dripping-wet vampire chasing your car through the Driftless hills.”
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“Ridgeway’s got seven bars and three churches — that’s how you know it’s haunted and holy.”
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“Don’t send us fake trail-cam photos — we’re smarter than that!”
Follow @DairylandFrights on Instagram to see the Holy Hill ghost photo, listener-submitted evidence, and spooky behind-the-scenes pics from the show.
If you’ve seen something strange in Wisconsin, message us — we might feature your story in a future episode!
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Episode Transcript
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Speaker A (00:00):
Foreign.
Speaker B (00:13):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Dairyland Frights, the paranormal
podcast that covers everything spooky, creepy,and mysterious in the Midwest.
My name is John, and I'm here today with mytwo co hosts, Brooke and Megan.
Hey, Brooke, how are you doing today?
Speaker C (00:30):
I'm doing good.
Pretty excited.
Another funny, fun, interesting story for youguys.
Speaker B (00:36):
Megan, how's your Sunday going?
Speaker A (00:38):
It's going well.
I've been staying at home, not doing much, but
this podcast is going to be great today.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker B (00:45):
Awesome. Awesome.
Yes, we have some really good topics today.
The Ridgeway Ghost and the Mineral PointVampire.
So what I always say, New York, you don'talways have vampires in California.
We got vampires in Wisconsin, too, so.
But before we get into it,
let's start off with a quick paranormal newssegment from Megan.
(01:11):
Take it away, Megan.
Speaker A (01:13):
All right.
Thanks, John.
This story that I'm going to tell you abouttoday is really interesting, especially
because a few weeks ago we did another podcastepisode about who Holy Hill.
And this paranormal news kind of ties in withthat, which we thought that was very
interesting.
So if you are someone who's on Facebook, feelfree to follow along as I tell this story.
(01:34):
Go to Facebook and look up Holy Hill Art Farm.
You'll see when you look at it, you know, it'sa very bright, welcoming, fun page.
It's about this rustic farm venue in Hubertus,Wisconsin.
So this one post that they made back in March29th of 2022,
(01:56):
it's very interesting.
It's not their normal post.
It has 2.5 thousand reactions and 1.3 thousandcomments.
So we looked into it and something veryinteresting about it.
And by the way, if you want to find it, usethe search feature on their Facebook page and
look up a word like paranormal and you'll findit.
(02:19):
Anyways.
So the post reads from this art farm.
Our trail camera set up in the southwestcornfield captured a very creepy figure
walking along the edge of the field.
The camera, with no easy access from the road,is a motion sensor camera and only takes
pictures when something triggers the device.
(02:40):
This almost proves that the figure must havebeen moving for the camera to have taken a
photo.
So you can see this photo on their post.
And it kind of looks like this tall, thin
woman who might be wearing this, like, whitenightgown or dress.
It's very spooky.
And the interesting thing is that this figure,she's almost as tall as the corn stalks behind
(03:05):
her.
And I had to look this up, but Wisconsin
cornstalks They can be like, stick six toeight feet or even taller.
So this is a really tall figure.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So then I decided to look at the comments.
You know, what do people think that this
figure is?And some people are saying, oh, it kind of
looks like someone in, like, an old nurse'suniform,
(03:25):
you know?
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker C (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker A (03:28):
Or there were some people who were a bit more skeptical in the comments.
Some people were saying it kind of looks likean old feed bag that got stuck.
Stuck in the corn, which very well could bewith it being around corn.
So I don't know.
I. What do you two think this looks like?
Speaker C (03:45):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I mean, I could.
I. I was also reading the comments on thatpost, and I saw people say that, but it
definitely looks like it has, like, twodistinct legs and a head, so it's.
I don't know, it's a little odd.
And I know the.
The people who posted at the Holy Hill ArtFont farm, they.
They didn't seem to think that it was a feedbag, so they.
(04:07):
They thought it was.
And they also.
Someone mentioned that it almost looks like
she's, like, carrying something because she'skind of hunched over.
I know Megan. When I. When we first talkedabout this, Megan was like, oh, it's like me
running to the kids in the middle of the nightto get shredded cheese.
Speaker A (04:23):
You know, me just getting my snack.
Speaker C (04:26):
Yeah, yeah.
And maybe, like, I could definitely just seeit being like a real person just wandering out
in the fields at night, too.
And not even like a ghost, but.
Speaker A (04:34):
Yeah. What do you think, John?
Speaker B (04:37):
So what's really interesting about trail cams is people don't understand.
They're really hard to.
How do I say, like, fake stuff with?Because basically all they are is the camera.
And I've never used some, but my.
Some of my cousins are big hunters.
So basically it's just a camera with a motion
(04:58):
detector.
So something goes past,
takes a picture.
That's it.
So there's no way to kind of like, Photoshopthings or anything like that.
You would have to really kind of go out ofyour way to do it because it's very simple
tech.
So to me, it looks like someone,
and it's really hard.
You know, your eyes play tricks on you, but
kind of looks like someone is running forsomething or running and try to get something.
(05:23):
But it's.
It's a real cool picture and.
Speaker C (05:26):
Right.
Speaker B (05:27):
Interesting.
Speaker A (05:28):
It definitely looks like she's moving pretty quickly.
If it is a figure, it's interesting So Iwanted to learn more, you know, from the
comments.
So I looked at a few, and one woman named
Wendy, she wrote,
there are definitely spirits roaming thisarea.
I used to hear kids laughing and playing inthe middle of the night during the summer
months when the windows were open.
(05:49):
I actually got up out of bed to check on mykids, and they were sound asleep.
So there's.
There's other mysterious things happening in
this area, and we know that since it's soclose to Holy Hill, and I'll talk about that
in a few minutes.
But another woman named Carol wrote, spirits
are all around us.
They will not hurt you.
(06:10):
I know this because the property where I live
has many spirits.
Take some time to study the area and who livedthere in the past.
It's exciting to learn from them.
So I thought that was a. Yeah, it's like aninteresting view on it.
But something interesting I wanted to look upis how far away from Holy Hill Basilica, the
church in the area?
(06:31):
How far is that away from Holy Hill Art Farm?And it's only three and a half miles away.
So I don't think it's a coincidence thatthere's just so much paranormal activity going
on around this area.
And if you as listeners want to learn moreabout that, we have an entire episode
dedicated just to the legends of Holy Hill.
(06:53):
I believe it's our episode number five, so you
can take a look at that.
We talk about the Hermit of Holy Hill, and wealso talk about the Goatman of Hogsback Road.
So if you want to hear more creepy storiesfrom this same area, definitely check it out.
Brooke actually told multiple personal storiesthat she had from the area, and they're really
great, so you won't want to miss them.
(07:15):
So definitely take a look at our old number
five episode.
And I also wanted to point out we are going tobe starting an Instagram for Dairyland
Frights.
So if you'd like to see this.
Yeah, we want to see this mysterious, creepyphoto that the Art Farm posted.
We are going to put that on our Instagram pagefor all of you to check out.
Speaker C (07:36):
So look us up.
Speaker A (07:37):
Dairyland Frights.
And without further ado, I'm going to go aheadand pass it on.
We're going to focus on some other really coolstories from the town of Mineral Point,
Wisconsin,
which has this odd amount of paranormalactivity going on.
So I am very excited to learn more about this.
So we're gonna start off with John, and he's
(07:57):
gonna tell us about the Ridgeway Ghost.
Speaker B (08:01):
Thank you, Megan.
That was really interesting.
And yeah.
On our Instagram, please share any creepy
pictures you may have.
You know, we can figure out if they're fakethough, so don't try to run one path.
We're smarter than that.
Right,
Megan and Brooke?
Speaker A (08:16):
Yeah, I like to think so.
Speaker B (08:19):
Scary is scary.
If you send a scary picture, we love it, you
know,
so Ridgeway goes.
Ladies,
this is really interesting.
So just really quickly I want to tell you
about my footnotes here so I get those out ofthe way so everybody gets credit.
So, G.A.
hernandez, I got this from Horror History,
(08:42):
a New York Times article from the early 1900sand also a book by William Horner called the
Wisconsin Ridgeway Ghost.
This is actually kind of an interesting book
because it's a kids book,
so it's kind of interesting.
Somebody did the kids book about the Ridgeway
(09:02):
ghost.
You're gonna find out.
Maybe it's not for kids.
So start out where Ridgeway is.
If you're not from Wisconsin, it's about
southwest Wisconsin.
There's a small town, it's called ridgeway.
It's about 600 people.
And it's one of the few ghosts, though,
that throughout the history would be rumoredto have killed the living first ghost.
(09:33):
That someone can say,
someone died from this ghost.
Okay.
And one of the topics we'll have to coverMegan and Brooke and some topics about how
ghosts have killed people,
which is.
Has always been interesting, like people
literally dying of fright.
So anyway,
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it haunts the US Route 151 between Dodgevilleand Blue Mounds, which is basically about 40
minutes away from my house.
It's just a roughly 20 mile stretch of road,
primarily farmland.
Speaker C (10:08):
It does go.
Sorry, I just wanted to say it does go rightto Mineral Point two, which will tie into our
following story.
It's kind of interesting.
It like connects Bridgeway and Mineral Point,so.
Yeah, yeah, very intriguing.
Speaker B (10:20):
We're so professional.
So one of the things I'm going to give you aquick history.
I won't use my old timely voice this timebecause, oh, darn,
well, maybe I will.
But anyway,
maybe once in a while.
Anyway, so the entire area of southwestern
Wisconsin had a population explosion in the1830s with about 10,000 immigrants coming
(10:45):
every year to work in the lead mines.
And, you know, many tried to make it theirhome.
And that to me is crazy because you thinkabout it, 10,000 immigrants coming to Ridgeway
a lot.
That's a lot,
right?
So this is even funnier to me because if youknow Ridgeway or any small town in Wisconsin,
(11:08):
you're kind of like Especially us who havelived in Wisconsin pretty much all our lives.
It was a wild place.
Gambling and drinking and fighting andknifings and shootings and really?
So there was like, no law.
Like, you could literally just go to the car
and stab somebody and everybody be like, well.
Speaker C (11:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker B (11:34):
Start a fight.
Like, that's my woman.
Bam. You know,
so it sounds very.
So, like, any of these shows you've seen aboutthe old West?
That was Ridgeway, Wisconsin, at one time.
Isn't that weird?
Speaker C (11:47):
It is, but, yeah, it makes sense.
I. Yeah, I have a couple stories for later,
and I'm like, it definitely all makes sense.
Knowing what I know now.
Speaker B (11:55):
It's just bizarre to me because going to Ridgeway now or go on Google Earth
and look at it, you're like, huh,
doesn't make sense.
Anyway, so on May 1, 1913, a fire swept
through the downtown area of Ridgeway.
High winds quickly spread.
It burned through most of the buildings
downtown, including the post office, bank,lumberyard,
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train depot.
And here's the.
The funny thing is,
after that, the Ridgeway fire department wasestablished, so they didn't even have a fire.
Speaker C (12:26):
Oh, oh.
After the fire department, yeah.
Speaker B (12:30):
So it just basically destroyed the town anyway.
So really what they found out was that's kindof when this Ridgeway ghost happened.
So I kind of get into that because this is, tome, really, really interesting.
What the first thing I find interesting issome people claim that the ghostly activity
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increases every 40 years.
And this is starting in the 1850s, so you canmark your calendar.
I guess it's gonna happen.
Now, this is the weird thing.
And.
And please,
Megan and Brooke, tell me if you've ever heardanything like this, because this is really
strange.
So the Ridgewig ghost can change its shape at
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will from a man with a whip.
Who knows why?A dog,
a sheep,
a pig,
a horse and a ball of fire.
And my favorite horseman.
I'm not finished yet.
Keep going.
Speaker A (13:37):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker B (13:38):
There's more.
A young woman, an old woman,
and more.
So can I ask you both, have you ever heard ofa ghost that can do all those things,
including animals?
Speaker C (13:50):
That is.
That's.
To me, that sounds more like.
I. I feel like.
Don't like skinwalkers.
Isn't that more of a thing that's supposed to
be able to change its form?I don't know about it.
Speaker B (14:02):
A horse and a sheep.
Speaker C (14:06):
It's pretty wild, right?
Speaker B (14:09):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker C (14:10):
Very weird.
Speaker B (14:11):
Megan, what do you think?
Speaker A (14:12):
I like how this Ridgeway ghost, it covers the gamut you know, if there's a farm
animal you want to be like, it can be it.
You know,
it's very versatile.
No, I have not heard of any ghosts being ableto do this.
Speaker B (14:25):
Neither have I. I've heard, like, a ghost will be a ghost of an animal, like a
horse.
And you'll see the horse or you'll see the
man, and he'll.
And there'll be a man or maybe a woman.
But it just.
Can I kind of get doing now?
Here's the other thing I think is it's scary.
Very scary.
Ghost appears out of nowhere and it attacks aperson, often travelers, and then disappears.
(14:51):
So if you remember from our last not so miniepisode, the Banshee of South Dakota,
please look at that one, because it's kind ofinteresting.
She would just appear out of nowhere.
Speaker A (15:01):
Right.
Speaker B (15:02):
Here she is.
And you're like,
okay.
So I just.
I've never heard anything like that in all of
my research and all my things.
I listen to podcasts and reading books and
that this ghost appears out of nowhere.
It could be a pig.
So you could just be, like, walking on the
street.
A pig comes out in front of you and attacks
you.
Speaker A (15:24):
That's Wisconsin for you.
Speaker C (15:26):
It is, right?
Speaker B (15:28):
The Headless Horseman, I think, is kind of funny.
That's.
I think is just a little bit of fun with
people because.
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker C (15:37):
John. There is.
I do have something that might.
That I. I'm gonna save it for later because Ithink it.
It's.
It's a funny story, but it could actually tie
into that very interestingly.
Speaker B (15:48):
Love it.
Love it.
So let's get to the first thing.
Okay, so one of the.
They call it folk tales, I don't know why.
Kind of lends itself, I guess, to a folktale.
Dr. Cutler of Dodgeville.
Of course, it's Dr. Cutler.
He told a story that a ghost appeared on thepole of his wagon.
(16:09):
So Dr. Cutler.
So that saw the Ridgeway ghost or phantom
three times in his life and the third timekilled him from fright, according to the New
York Times article.
Speaker C (16:24):
Wow.
Speaker B (16:26):
So remember, this is so weird, right?
Remember we did Haunted Roads and Bridgesabout.
You have to.
Oh, please help me out, ladies.
Where you drove in Evansville to this one
area, and you had to do it three times before.
Old man.
Speaker A (16:41):
Yeah. Weary road.
Speaker B (16:44):
Thank you.
So listen to that podcast because it's kind of
the same thing,
right?Everything happens in threes.
That weird three knocks.
If you hear three knocks in your house,
that's the devil or demon,
you know,
mocking the Trinity.
3am you wake up.
Could be something fat.
Isn't that strange, you guys?
Speaker C (17:05):
It is.
Speaker B (17:06):
What do you feel about that?
Speaker C (17:08):
Yeah, I do see that pop up a lot.
I. Yeah.
I don't know though.
Yeah, it could be.
Could be something to it.
Speaker B (17:15):
Yeah. Megan, do you think three? Why is three.
Speaker A (17:19):
Well, something that just makes me laugh is the first two signs he saw the ghost.
I guess it wasn't that scary.
The third time was just.
That was enough.
Speaker C (17:29):
Right?
Speaker A (17:29):
Just get him right in.
Speaker B (17:32):
Weird, right? So all this New York Times article and I'll
put a link on the website or if we want to putit on our Instagram page,
we will do that too.
If we.
If we.
We feel that would be a great thing for you
guys to read because it's a great article fromthe New York Times,
an established newspaper, obviously.
Speaker C (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker B (17:52):
Ridgeway, Wisconsin and a ghost.
So the same article had the tale of John Lewiswho.
Who encountered a giant dark figure on his wayhome from helping a friend butcher animals.
So he must have killed the pig.
And you know, the other pig was mad, I guess,at the Ridgeway ghost.
So this is funny too.
So John Lewis attacked the strange figure with
(18:14):
a knife.
Of course you would do that.
And then he was found semi conscious thefollowing day.
He said he had been plucked up in the air andtossed around,
describing something similar to that of atornado.
Speaker A (18:28):
Oh, crazy.
Speaker B (18:30):
And then guess what happened.
Ladies died a few hours after.
Speaker A (18:35):
There's a pattern here.
Speaker B (18:38):
Right.
Speaker C (18:39):
So very interesting.
Speaker B (18:40):
Those are two deaths now I've heard again,
maybe we'll cover this as a topic.
People dying of fright or someone beingassaulted.
But two deaths in a row.
Interesting.
And that it was with so much force as atornado.
Speaker C (18:54):
Wow. Yeah, A lot of energy.
Speaker A (18:57):
So it is.
Speaker B (18:58):
What was interesting to me was the W files at the website.
And I don't want to spurge anybody from goingto this website, but I'm going to tell you, it
was like it was created in the 80s.
I'm sure people, you know, doing their best,like we do our best.
However,
it does have an entire page of stories aboutthe Ridgeway ghost.
(19:21):
Really?Just people talking about if they've seen it
and stuff.
But everything from ghostly hands playingpoker to giant vanishing pigs.
Speaker A (19:31):
There you go with the pigs.
Speaker B (19:32):
Hey. That gave a farmer such a fright that he became.
Speaker C (19:36):
What?
Speaker B (19:37):
Sick and died.
So this is the third one.
Speaker C (19:41):
Wow.
Speaker B (19:41):
So people who see this ghost,
even if it's a pig ghost,
are dying.
So,
you know, I.
It's kind of interesting how all these peopleare dying in this town.
Now, remember,
this is a town full of knives and fightingsand certain disease.
Right?We'll talk about it.
(20:03):
Yes or no?If we believe in this.
Obviously, at the end of my episode, but.
So Charles E. Brown, the director of WisconsinFolklore society, wrote a four page collection
in 1943 about the stories of the Ridgewayghost.
It's worth a read.
And I think like most things in history,
there are similarities to more modern talestold.
(20:26):
So it is a book out there that both you couldread.
You know, it's just the kind of the same oldsame.
Oh, we saw these ghosts and shadows andapparitions and all that good stuff.
But being that three people died just reallyquickly.
Before I go on to how the origin of theRidgeway ghost.
Brooke, what do you think?
(20:47):
Have you ever heard of, like three peopledying with a ghost?
Again, like I said, I haven't.
Speaker C (20:54):
No, I really haven't.
I feel like that's.
I mean, even what Megan said earlier in theepisode, that.
That Facebook comment where they said, thespirits are not there to hurt you.
They won't harm you.
So I haven't.
I honestly even like the evil spirits you hearabout.
I haven't really heard of it, like harminganyone, maybe shoving someone or maybe,
you know, being a nuisance,
(21:16):
stuff like that.
But that's.
That's really interesting.
Speaker B (21:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Make it.
What do you think?
Speaker A (21:22):
I'd be interested to hear if there are more stories of people seeing this ghost
taking different forms, because you said itcould be, you know, a dog or a sheep.
So it's very interesting that there's thisrepetitive, like pig apparition sort of thing.
So I know if I ever see pigs, I'm running theother way.
Speaker B (21:40):
Running, running the other way.
Speaker A (21:41):
It's decided.
Speaker C (21:42):
Yeah. Very, very spooky.
Speaker B (21:44):
Don't look at your barbecue ribs the same again.
Speaker A (21:49):
I don't know if I can give that up.
Speaker B (21:53):
So, the origin of the Ridgeway ghost.
There's been many stories, so let's start withthe first one.
Two teenage brothers at McKillop Saloon in1840.
Two brothers, ages 4 and 15, were murdered.
The motivation is unclear why they weremurdered, but one of the brothers was tossed
into a fireplace.
Speaker C (22:12):
No. Oh, wow.
Speaker B (22:13):
They burned it.
That's.
The other brother rose to death as heattempted to run away from town.
Somehow from those deaths arose the Ridgewaygoats.
So,
okay, that's the first one.
So keep these in the back of your mind,
ladies, and we'll kind of see what happens.
My favorite, the bar bra.
Speaker A (22:34):
Oh, boy.
I'm ready.
Speaker B (22:36):
Around the 1840s, of course you're gonna have a bar bra.
Come on.
The village resulted in the murder of a man,
of course.
Speaker C (22:43):
Force.
Speaker B (22:44):
Now, they're in a lot of details here, but there were plenty of saloons where
it's reasonable assume brawls broke out.
Yeah, it's the 1800s.
Everybody fought and people were killed.
So why it turned out that one of them turnedinto an aggressive ghost is anyone's guess.
So next one, the New York Times article.
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So on December 7, 1902,
the New York Times published a story calledSome Wisconsin Go.
And in the theme articles that I mentionedabove regarding Dr. Cutler, at the beginning
of this Ridgeway Go section, he's supposed tobe the wrath of a man in the lead mining days
before the Civil War.
Speaker C (23:25):
Oh, okay.
Speaker B (23:28):
So if you're going.
So the Civil.
I'm a big history buff.
I don't know if I've ever told you that, butI'm a huge history buff.
So the Civil War in Wisconsin was not.
We weren't a state that people wanted.
We were basically.
There was Camp Randall.
Yes, that is a Civil War site.
But we were mostly prisoners were broughthere.
So people looked at Wisconsin like,
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what?Wisconsin?
You're a prisoner in Wisconsin.
We had fighting and there were a couplebattles, but yeah, not really.
So I don't know about that one.
And then the last one is, it's made up because
there are no police reports,
no pictures or videos.
I did see this YouTube video where this guywas walking around Ridgeway.
(24:13):
It's like a 20 minute video.
And again, I love all our people who are doingparanormal and starting out just like us.
But he just walked around and he kind oftalked about things.
Yeah. Okay, you watch it if you want to.
His name was J. Nathan Couch.
Speaker C (24:32):
Oh,
yeah, he's the guy who wrote the.
The book about the goat Man, I think.
Oh,
he's pretty positive.
I know I've talked about him in like a very
recent episode.
Speaker B (24:45):
Seems like a good guy, you know?
Speaker C (24:47):
Yeah, yeah.
There's so many like recurring characters in
like the Dairyland fright cinematic universe.
Speaker A (24:54):
I like that.
Speaker B (24:57):
And I did find a few stories from locals that said the entire thing have been
made up in the 1850s to scare troublemakersout of town.
Speaker C (25:08):
I mean, I could see it maybe.
Speaker B (25:11):
So like the other origin stories, you know, Again, I couldn't verify this.
I really looked around.
Also read about some comments on Facebook.
I have to say they were very lame.
It was like I saw the ghost when I was walking
my dog.
Speaker C (25:25):
Okay, well, okay, maybe they did.
Speaker B (25:28):
Okay, you did.
Speaker A (25:29):
You did.
Speaker B (25:29):
No pictures.
Just whatever.
So anyway, I didn't include those.
What?We were trying with research today,
but like I said, Jay now.
Jay Nathan Couch.
I also did a.
There's a children's book by William Hornerand yes, you can go on Amazon and buy this
book.
It's kind of out of print, and I found one
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that I was going to buy because I wasthinking, I'll support local guy for some
reason.
It was $275.
Speaker A (25:56):
Oh, ****.
Speaker B (25:58):
You know why it's expensive Here, though, is a quote from a former Ridgeway
resident.
I used to live in Ridgeway.
It is very interesting, but sadly, not many
paranormal things happen.
The water tower has a ghost painted on it,which it does.
Go past Ridgeway.
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There is a ghost.
Speaker C (26:19):
Awesome.
That's so cool.
Speaker B (26:21):
On the water tower still to this day, by the way.
You can go and look it up.
It's pretty.
Pretty interesting.
And the police have a ghost on their crest,
which you can go online.
You can see that.
So.
Speaker C (26:34):
Oh, my God, that's awesome.
Speaker B (26:36):
Just like our hodag.
And just like, peppy.
Not peppy.
The.
I'm sorry, the water cryptid.
Speaker C (26:45):
Like pepper monster.
Speaker B (26:46):
Okay. You know, where people dive in and say, hey, we're gonna make this part.
So Ridgeway has dove all the way in.
Being that the.
The police have a crest and it's on the watertower.
It is widely talked about there, and it's afun story to hear about.
Not really.
People are scared.
Even the elementary book school has booksabout ghosts and they talk about ghosts all
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the time, which.
Why didn't I go to that school?
Come on.
Speaker C (27:11):
Right? That sounds awesome.
Speaker B (27:13):
So the town is rich in ghost lore,
and they even have a festival every year.
And a ghost run.
Yeah, they really, you know, really go into.
I even saw, like, in some local bakery.
Had, like ghost cookies in there.
Like I said, they have a ghost run, and.
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And some people put on sheets and run and.
You know what I mean, with the eye holes and
kind of cheesy way of.
So,
you know,
what can you say.
Speaker C (27:49):
That'S terrifying?
Speaker B (27:52):
So I'm gonna start with you, Megan.
Speaker A (27:54):
Real or not,
I'm gonna lean towards not.
I feel like a lot of the stories could just beexplained by just regular physical happenings.
Plus, it's giving me, like, you said, like,hodag vibes.
Like, oh, we're gonna make this into,
like a bunch of scary stories we tell in thedark,
so. But I do think it's a Cool premise.
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I will give them that.
Speaker B (28:18):
Yeah. What do you think?
Speaker C (28:21):
Yeah, I. I feel like I don't know that I believe that it's like one ghost who
did all these crazy things.
Like, to me,
I don't know.
Like, especially after reading about Mineral
Point, it seems like this,
like, southwest area of Wisconsin is very,like, rich with ghost lore.
Despite having, like, a very low populationthere, there's a lot of, like, spooky stuff
going on in the area in general.
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So I could see it being like there aredifferent paranormal occurrences, but that
they're not all, like, one ghost that's justbeen haunting the **** out of everybody.
So I don't know.
I feel like I lean more towards.
Yeah, there's some spooky stuff going on, but
it isn't all connected in the way that they'resaying.
Speaker B (29:01):
But yeah,
I think that's really cool.
I think it's a ****** Doo plot.
I think it's like old man Wilbur.
Oh, man, Wilbur.
They ripped that go.
And he's been away from my child.
I let you know so.
Speaker C (29:16):
I could see that.
Speaker B (29:17):
Yeah, right.
Because here's where I always, you know, like,I,
like all of us, have read numerous ghoststories, podcasts, listen to,
you know, what typically is.
It's like, here's the ghost.
It shows up at three and that, you know,that's a residual honky.
Right?Okay, three o'.
Clock, Here comes old man will be and they'rewalking down the hall.
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Or intelligent haunting, right?Where you walk in and, you know, you sit down
and then all of a sudden, I don't know, yourTV turns on and off or, you know, lights go on
and off and you don't know what's going on.
But with this, it's just, to me so much like,it can be a pig,
it could be a woman, it could be a headlesshorseman.
Right.
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And being that people died from fright on thethird time to.
To Megan's point, why wouldn't you die tofright on the first time?
Because it's a go.
Speaker C (30:10):
That's.
Speaker B (30:12):
Anyway, so I'm gonna give a big no to.
I love it, though, that Ridgeway is kind ofyou placing the arms around this and saying,
hey, you know, fun.
And everyone has a little fun about it.
Speaker C (30:25):
So I love that too.
Speaker B (30:26):
He is really fun.
And maybe we would do an investigation there
and whether prove the ghost is there or not.
Speaker C (30:34):
So just going up to random farm animals.
Speaker B (30:42):
Pointing our em.
Whatever thing I see,
I do have one.
Nice.
So here's one that I think is kind ofinteresting.
I've heard about it.
I think if you're only in Wisconsin, you've
probably heard about it.
But it's the Mineral Point Vampire.
Speaker C (31:04):
Oh my gosh.
I had heard of this, but I honestly.
Oh my God.
It's just such a funny story.
But so I want to talk about a couple of thesources.
So I, I have this book called Chasing AmericanMonsters by Jason Offit.
It's a fun.
It kind of goes through like cryptids, the
most popular cryptids from each state in theU.S. it's very fun, but it just gives like a
very high level, like very, very high leveloverview of like every story.
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But I would definitely recommend it.
And then the Wisconsinology website,
the ranker website, which was kind ofinteresting.
And then also it's interesting that youmentioned the W Files because I found a couple
quotes from that as well.
Actually it was like a book too.
I think it's a website and a book.
But yeah, they popped up in my research as
well.
(31:49):
So this is gonna be a fun story.
So you'll have to.
We'll have to decide by the end whether wethink that this spring heel being is a real
vampire or Cryptid or is it just a wacky localgoth with an interest in Parkour?
I'm so intrigued.
It's very intriguing.
Speaker B (32:06):
Hey. Hey, Brooke, could you explain Parkour to our audience who may not know what
that is?It's.
Speaker C (32:12):
Oh yeah.
Well, I would recommend watching the.
The Cold Open to the Office episode where
they're trying out Parkour,
but it's basically trying to get from like onelocation to the other in like a creative,
crazy way, like doing flips, jumping offwalls, jumping.
Climbing up walls, that kind of stuff.
And it definitely seems like this, thisMineral Point Vampire had a. Had an interest
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in this.
As we'll find out.
Speaker B (32:40):
Hardcore parkour.
You gotta watch the Office.
Speaker C (32:44):
Yes, I always think about that.
Speaker B (32:48):
Very fun.
Speaker C (32:51):
So let's set the scene a little bit.
We. We were just talking about Ridgeway.
So Mineral Point is like a 15 minute drive
from Ridgeway down 151.
So it's in the same general area.
And this story kind of takes place over thespan of quite a few years.
So 1981 was the first sighting.
In 2008 was the most recent sighting.
So a pretty wide span of time.
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And also Monroe point is about 45 miles westof Madison, Wisconsin too.
So it's in the driftless area of Wisconsin.
So it's surrounded by forests and hills and
it's very picturesque.
And if you're not familiar with, like, whatthat term means?
Basically, pretty much all of Wisconsin was,like,
mowed over by glaciers way back in the.
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In the day.
I don't know.
I'm not even gonna estimate a time,
but there's a certain area of, like, southwestWisconsin, basically, like, the lower left
quad quadrant of Wisconsin was not touched byglaciers.
So it's called the driftless area.
And it is a lot more, like, hilly and just
very pretty.
Like,
more so than the rest of Wisconsin, obviously.
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Like, there's tons of forests up in the north,
but it's very, like, flat.
The rest of the state's very flat.
So the city, it's very cute.
It has, like, a adorable little downtown area
with, like, old stone buildings.
I love all the towns, like, out in this area.
They're so pretty and fun.
And today, the population of the town is 2500people.
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So it has been about that number for a longtime,
at least since the early 90s.
And another source.
So this is kind of interesting, John, you said
that there was, like, a big population boomin,
like, I think it was, like, the 1840s orsomething like that, because people were going
there for mining and all these different jobs.
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And the population, actually of Mineral Point
got to, like,
3,400, I think, at its peak.
And then it, like, dropped, which is kind of
unusual.
So it, like, steadily, like, went down from
that point until now.
So it was at its lowest point, actually, in
1980.
So that's when our story starts, when thepopulation was at its lowest point.
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And there also are some people who say thatpeople left the town because of alleged
paranormal activity, which I don't.
I cannot find any evidence of that being the
reason.
But, you know, I think it was.
Well.
Well, there was a Facebook commenter whothinks it was a different reason.
We'll get to that in a little bit.
But.
But anyway,
our story starts in 1981, on March 14th.
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So this is the first sighting of the Mineral
Point vampire.
Basically, the police were called to theGraceland cemetery to investigate a
trespassing.
They said there was, like, a. What weirdfigure, like, walking around the cemetery.
So the police officers, obviously, this is asmall town.
They don't have a ton going on, I imagine.
So they head over.
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Specifically, the officer, John Pepper,
went over to kind of check it out, and he sawthis dark figure lurking among the tombstones.
And officer John Pepper described this figureas a huge person wearing a black cape with a
white painted face, about six foot five andugly.
Speaker A (36:03):
Oh, my God.
Speaker B (36:05):
Description?
Speaker C (36:06):
Yeah,
not Not. You didn't specify what made himugly, but he was ugly.
So he saw this guy and he was like, hey, whatare you doing?
And the being like looked at him, whoever thiswas, whether it was a guy, a vampire,
whatever, he looked at Officer Pepper and hegot spooked and he ran away and he easily
scaled, like leapt over a four foot fence atthe edge of the cemetery.
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Other sources said it was a six foot fence andthat he like literally took totally jumped
like superhuman leap over the fence.
So.
Interesting.
And then I. That didn't come from OfficerPepper though.
It was like some other local who said that thefence was actually like taller than four feet
high.
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Yeah, I know.
It just keeps getting higher and higher aspeople retell the story.
Speaker B (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker C (36:56):
So when the police came back to look for evidence the next day, because it was
night, so they couldn't really see a ton ofstuff.
So they came back the next day and.
And they found footsteps in the snow, Ibelieve, leading up to the fence.
But they didn't see any footsteps on the otherside of the fence where the guy apparently
jumped over.
It was kind of interesting.
Speaker B (37:14):
Yeah.
Speaker C (37:14):
And this kind of confused them and they figured like maybe this was some kind of
hoax.
So they didn't really like look into it any
further.
But apparently like this became big news inthe town.
So apparently like this was the first of manycemetery encounters with a vampire.
Although I couldn't find specific othersightings.
But what did happen was this like createdvampire fever and mineral point for like a
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couple weeks.
Everyone was talking about.
Yeah, it was such a. It was a huge topic.
Everyone was talking about it.
Speaker B (37:48):
I love it.
Speaker C (37:49):
Yeah. So there were tons of people like saying, oh, I saw the vampire here, I saw
the vampire there.
But like not being very serious about it.
Also, apparently people were dressing asvampires at bars.
Yeah, they would like go to the bar dressed asvampires and they even made T shirts.
Oh yeah, they made a T shirt.
Said like I was bitten by the mineral pointvampire.
Speaker B (38:10):
Oh my God, you're so bad.
Speaker C (38:13):
Yeah, I know, right? I know.
Yeah.
And again, I will.
I'll touch on that.
We'll come back to this, but.
Very funny.
So everything kind of died down though.
You know, this was kind of like a one timething.
People were like crazy about it for like acouple months and then things kind of died
down.
And the next like major sighting did not
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actually occur until March of 2004.
So same month, this was again in March,
but you know,
years later,
like 20, I don't know, 23 years later.
So on this day,
the police received calls about a man who wasin a tree near a local apartment building.
And he was like heckling tenants and likeleaping down at them as they pass by and like
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trying to scare him and stuff.
Speaker B (39:02):
Megan, that wasn't me.
I. I promise you.
Speaker C (39:09):
Right. Oh my God.
Speaker A (39:10):
Prove it, John.
Speaker C (39:11):
Boy, I can't.
Speaker B (39:13):
You guys got.
Speaker C (39:14):
Where was John in March of 2004? We don't know.
Speaker B (39:19):
Maybe there.
Speaker C (39:21):
Yeah,
but anyway, so the police were called againbecause this guy was heckling everybody.
And so the.
When they.
Which the vampire leapt to the ground from thetree and then he like looked at him and ran
off.
And this time they said that he climbed a ten
foot concrete wall.
Speaker B (39:38):
Whoa.
Speaker C (39:40):
Yeah. And then he disappeared into the night.
And again they said the police followed histracks in the snow to the wall, but could not
pursue him past the wall because there were notracks on the other side of the wall.
So leading people to believe that maybe thisis just a thought, but maybe as he climbed the
fence and the wall, he like turned into a bat.
Speaker A (40:01):
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
Speaker C (40:02):
Maybe that's why his footsteps were not on the other side.
We don't know.
So anyway,
again, he kind of disappears for four years.
Also, interestingly, and I did not look intothis because I couldn't really find anything
besides a weird website who mentioned it, butapparently there was a state senator between
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1981 and 2004 who was trying to make being avampire illegal in Wisconsin.
And I. I did not like too much.
Yeah, apparently it did, because this guydisappeared for 23 years.
That's the reason that this author.
Yeah,
it's like.
Oh, that's interesting.
(40:43):
I would like to look more into that.
Well, maybe we'll touch on it next week.
Yeah,
but,
but yeah, very, very interesting.
So, yeah, so 2004, he disappears for four moreyears.
And then in July of 2008, the weirdestencounter I think, of all of them happens.
So,
July of 2008, a young couple, Brandon Hines,who was 22 at the time, and Jamie Marker, who
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was 19,
they were fishing at Ludden Lake at nightaround 10pm I fish and have you.
That's interesting.
Yeah, well, this, that's where this happened.
So they're out on like a kind of like floatingdock that goes out into the lake.
Yeah.
And they said.
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So they heard something like crawling
underneath the dock.
And Brandon actually said that it almost
sounded like someone was using the dock as aladder underneath, like climbing along the
other side of it.
Very odd.
Speaker A (41:40):
Heck no.
Speaker C (41:42):
Right. So Brandon, he thought this was some type of animal.
So he was kind of like, stomping on the dock,and then he heard something splash into the
water.
And, you know, at this point, they're like,oh, it's probably like a raccoon or something.
Who knows?So he has a flashlight and he shines it into
the water.
And what they see at the end of the dock is atall, thin man with a white face climbing.
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Climbing onto the dock.
Yeah. Terrifying.
So terrified, Jamie ran immediately back to,like, starts sprinting for the car.
And then Brandon was, like, kind of in shock,like, staring at the sky.
And after a couple seconds, after getting agood look at him, he threw his flashlight at
the man and then also sprinted off.
They, like, completely, like, they left alltheir belongings behind, like their fishing
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poles and everything.
They were so terrified, they just booked it.
Speaker B (42:28):
Yeah.
Speaker C (42:29):
And they both described this figure as wearing a cape of some sort or like some
kind of Dracula costume.
Like, that's what he literally said.
And then Jamie claims to have witnessed thevampire rushing towards them as they sped away
in the car.
So, like, she got in the car, she was waiting
for Brandon to get there.
Then Brandon got there, they sped away, andshe looked in the rearview mirror and saw him,
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like, chasing after them.
So naturally, they both drove straight to theMineral Point police station to report what
they had seen.
Scene.
And the police went and investigated.
They didn't find anything.
And then the following day,
they,
Jamie and Brandon went back to London Lake toretrieve their belongings.
And they found everything.
Like, everything was accounted for except for
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the flashlight.
And Brandon Hines said, whoever it is, they
could keep it.
I love that.
Speaker A (43:17):
So.
Speaker C (43:19):
So he was.
Yeah,
he did not want to see him again.
So this, to our knowledge, to what I couldfind, was the last real run in with this
Mineral Point Vampire character.
Although there's other, like, random thingsthat kind of pop up every once in a while, but
these are, like, the main encounters.
And then I found a.
I love coming back to these Facebook commentsbecause it's so funny.
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I found a Facebook article that had, like,those about the Mineral Point vampire, and it
had quite a few shares and likes on it.
And this guy Ryan said the.
The vampire's name is Nick Sinetti,
and that's all he said.
There's no what's up?
Speaker A (43:59):
Okay. Okay.
Speaker C (44:01):
Like, it might have just been one of his friends.
I don't know.
He didn't tag anyone.
But I did.
I did look it up, though.
There was a guy named Nick Sinetti who livedin Mineral Point at the Time.
So who knows?Maybe.
Maybe this guy knew.
Maybe that was who.
Maybe that guy was a mineral coin vampire.
And then a guy named Logan said people leftthe town because of the creatures.
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I think more than likely they left becausethere was no work, which I wanted to touch on
that because I thought that was probably true.
They probably didn't leave because there'sparanormal activity.
Speaker B (44:32):
Right?
Speaker C (44:33):
Yeah.
Speaker B (44:33):
Oh, ****.
Speaker C (44:35):
All the mining work.
Yeah.
Peggy said that she hasn't heard thesestories, but Officer Pepper gave her her first
and only speeding ticket.
Thanks, officer.
And my favorite one, which I wish I want to,like, contact these people, but, yeah, two
different people.
John and Jennifer both said that they had the
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shirt from 1981 that was going around thatsaid I was bitten by the vampire.
I know.
We need to find them and see.
See what the shirt looks like.
Speaker B (45:04):
Totally buying it.
Speaker C (45:06):
Yeah, I. If we could find it, I absolutely.
I would spend good money on that.
But yeah, so that's the mineral point vampire.
I have a couple other things about mineralpoint I want to talk about.
But first I want to ask you guys,
what do you think the vampire is?Megan.
Megan, what do you think?
Speaker A (45:24):
I kind of feel like it's just like a dude who just has, like, a very weird
fascination with, like, being Edward Cullenfrom Twilight.
Although this did come before Twilight cameout, so maybe that was the origination story.
Speaker C (45:38):
However, the, like, the later story is maybe, like, it was a different, just
random goth guy to start back in the 80s.
And then, like, he stopped being a vampire or
whatever.
And then, like, someone else brought back hislegacy after Twilight came out because, like,
the later stories, I think, came out aroundthat time.
So maybe because it was a long period of time,like 23 years.
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So I'm like, it.
Could it be the same guy?
Maybe, but that is a good question.
Speaker A (46:06):
And then another thing that was kind of making me laugh.
Can you imagine this, like, dripping wetvampire just, like, running after your car?
Like, that's just.
Speaker B (46:14):
That's awesome.
Speaker A (46:15):
With, like, maybe, like, his makeup's, like.
Speaker C (46:17):
Dripping off his face.
Speaker A (46:18):
That's terrifying.
Speaker C (46:20):
It is terrifying.
But what do you think, John?
Do you think this is a real vampire?
Speaker B (46:26):
So, like, if, you know, if I heard and then the guy chasing me,
I would be like,
okay, something up here.
So what's super funny is my wife is obsessedwith vampires.
She's watched Twilight a gabillion times.
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She's watched the Vampire Diaries.
She's watched True.
Speaker C (46:53):
Then, yeah, I feel like, John.
Speaker B (46:59):
What'S super funny about it is,
like, anything on vampire she watched so I,you know, so I shared this story with her and
she goes,
oh, I don't know.
That sounds like a fake.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Because she considers herself an expertbecause she read the Twilight books a billion
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times.
Anne Rice interview the vampire.
Like I said, you would not believe, she's doneeverything with vampires.
And it's super funny because like I said, whenI shared to her, she immediately goes, now
it's fake.
Speaker C (47:34):
I believe her.
You know, I trust her because when, like, I
feel like if it was a real vampire, theywouldn't leave footprints in the snow.
Speaker B (47:41):
No, they would not.
Speaker C (47:42):
You know, that's.
Yeah.
Speaker B (47:44):
So you remember, like with vampires, you know, one of the things.
And I've been educated on this, by the way.
So really quickly,
vampires move extremely fast,
shape shift at any will they can.
They typically do not want to be seen because
they want to,
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you know, remain anonymous and everything.
So I think it was just somebody's bored intheir small town, which,
oh, my God, I wish someone do this in SpringGreen where I live,
something.
Because it's super boring, you know, when youlive in a small town, like, nothing happens.
So he was just having fun.
And, you know, I wish they would adapt it like
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the Ridgeway ghost,
you know,
have like a vampire run,
you know.
Speaker C (48:30):
Yeah.
Speaker B (48:32):
Or have vampire cookies.
I mean, you do a lot of things with it, so I'm
gonna say a hard no.
Speaker C (48:40):
I agree.
I agree.
Speaker A (48:42):
Yeah.
Speaker C (48:42):
I love.
I love the story, though.
I think it's very fun.
Speaker B (48:46):
Yeah.
Speaker C (48:48):
Yeah.
So I wanted to talk about.
Yeah. A couple other kind of fun things aboutMineral Point because this again,
town of like 2500 people is very small,
but there's like a lot of kind of weird stuffthat goes on in this area.
So one thing is there's this place called theWalker House and it's one of the oldest inns
in the state.
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It's also a restaurant.
You can go there and have lunch or whatever.
But it looks very cool and spooky from theoutside.
It. Honestly, Megan, I feel like.
Didn't wizard at a keto box?
Speaker B (49:19):
Yes, he did.
Speaker C (49:20):
Yeah. Okay. I was like, I feel like I remember this.
So this place is really cool.
The current owners say that it's not hauntedand that they found no evidence of ghosts.
And I believe when wizard told us about thisplace, he also said that he didn't think that
it was haunted.
He's never experienced anything.
Okay. But the one time property manager of the
(49:40):
place, Walker Calvert, who no longer owns it,
he had numerous spectral encounters, includingOne with the headless man in 1981.
Speaker B (49:49):
Oh, there we go again.
Speaker C (49:51):
And, yeah, and this is.
So what this might come from is some peoplebelieve that the paranormal activity dates
back to a public execution of a murderer namedWilliam Caffey.
And this execution actually took place at thewalker House on November 1st of 1842.
And he was, like, hung.
(50:11):
Yeah. And. But what I thought was hilarious,though, was it said that he approached his
hanging while playing the funeral march usingempty beer bottles.
Speaker B (50:21):
Okay, of course.
Yeah.
Speaker C (50:23):
I was like, what a. What a Wisconsin thing.
But.
But anyway, I thought that was so funny.
I was like, well, maybe that kind of ties in
with your Headless Horseman story.
Maybe the literally ghost.
It's all connected.
Speaker B (50:34):
It is connected.
Speaker C (50:36):
Yeah. So. But yeah, the Walker house looks awesome.
I definitely.
I definitely want to go there, even just for
lunch.
Not, you know, maybe it's not haunted, but it
looks like a really cool place.
Another thing that happened was a werewolfsighting, which happens very frequently, it
turns out.
And another recurring character of theDairyland Fright Cinematic Universe, Linda
(50:59):
Godfrey, talks about a woman who actuallycontacted her in 2004 about a sighting of a
werewolf from 1987.
So she saw.
She said that she saw a werewolf running as hewas transforming in the middle of the day in
Spring in 1987.
And she also claimed that, like 15 to 20 otherpeople also witnessed this with her.
But Linda couldn't find and corroborate thestory with those other people.
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So she just had that kind of one off story.
But again, like, this place is not that faraway from places like Elkhorn and stuff like
that.
We talked about the Beast of Bray Road.
So it's like, there's a lot of,
like, Dogman type stories from this area too,which is kind of interesting.
Speaker B (51:36):
Right.
Speaker C (51:38):
And then lastly,
there was also a sighting of a bright,mysterious light in 1986.
So very close in time.
A lot of these things happened in the 80s.
So according to the W Files by J. Raf,
a sheriff and several residents of MineralPoint witnessed a bright light hovering over
the city.
And it appeared to be motionless.
And then it took off at a high rate with no
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speed or with.
Sorry, with no sound.
So it took off at a high rate of speed.
Sorry, with no sound.
And it's just interesting because theapparently, again, like 10 to 20 people
witness this and the timing is similar to,like, the werewolf sighting and the initial
vampire sightings.
And just.
Yeah, a lot of people think that Mineral Point
is kind of a hotbed of paranormal activitybecause of all this kind of weird and wacky
(52:25):
stuff that happens despite.
Again,
it's a very small town and a very kind of,like, secluded area, but.
But. Yeah. So that's.
That's mineral vampire, and that's mineral
point, Wisconsin.
Sounds like a fun place.
I've never actually been there.
Speaker B (52:39):
Yeah.
Speaker C (52:40):
But I would really like to go.
Just.
I feel like the vibes are.
Are intriguing.
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B (52:46):
It's a very nice place.
It's a nice little downtown.
Ridgeway is a nice little downtown.
Ridgeway has about seven bars and about three
churches.
So there you go.
Speaker C (52:57):
More bars and churches.
That's like the quintessential small town
Wisconsin, Wisconsin trope.
Speaker B (53:04):
So we had some great stories today.
I love.
You know, we had a ghost that killed three
people and can turn into a pig.
And so that's the vampire.
You know, people really getting behind that.
I think it's super cool.
And also, you know, our paranormal news, it's
something we will try to do from time to timeto share with some interesting,
(53:26):
you know, whether it be sightings, pictures,news, Whatever it might be.
So,
Megan, what do you think?
Anything you want to add?
Speaker A (53:36):
I would be interested to know if mineral point has, like, a weird makeup of the
land.
Like, I just want to know what makes us a
hotbed.
Speaker C (53:45):
Yeah, weird.
Like ley lines or something like that.
Speaker A (53:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll have to look into that.
Speaker B (53:51):
So really, really quickly.
If you look into that, they said the lead
mines, the lead and the composition of rockskind of are a magnet.
Speaker C (54:00):
Interesting.
Speaker A (54:01):
See, that could be a theory.
Speaker C (54:03):
Yeah, one.
Speaker B (54:04):
One thing.
Just really quickly, I'm going to put on my
geeky hat.
My tinfoil hat.
Really quick.
Speaker A (54:09):
Nerd.
Speaker B (54:10):
You live near, like, those huge power lines, you know, with the big steel
frames.
And if.
If your house is near there,
There's a ton of paranormal activity in thosehomes and in those areas because the ghosts
supposedly draw energy from the Interesting.
(54:31):
Yeah. So that's something we can talk about,too.
That's one topic I would love to talk about,like, how do ghosts originate, how to get
their power, and how does this happen?
Something we can talk about for a futuretopic.
So what do you think, Brooke?Anything you like to add?
Speaker C (54:50):
Not really.
Not really.
I just think that this is such a.
I just love the driftless area in general.
I think, like, the whole, like, even down to,
like, galena, Illinois.
I would love to talk about that area soon
because that has a lot of spooky paranormalstuff going on, too.
Like, the.
The whole driftless area, to me, is just like,
it's so cool.
It's very secluded.
It's very, like.
It just has a very interesting, interesting
(55:12):
feel.
Like wherever you are in that area, it just.
There's, like a specific energy that you kindof feel that I think, like, lends itself to
all this, like, paranormal stuff.
So I think it's fine.
I think we'll end up talking about that areaquite a bit in future episodes and coming back
to it.
So.
Speaker B (55:30):
So thank you again, Parasconis.
We love your support.
And, you know, again, we can have an Instagrampage and possibly TikTok, right, ladies?
Speaker C (55:42):
Yes. Yes. Possibly not.
Not immediately.
I just.
I literally, like, made the Instagram account,
like, just now.
So it exists.
There's nothing on it yet.
Speaker B (55:56):
Yeah, we will have different things for Megan and Brooke and they'll drag me into
it even though I don't have.
So we'll talk about shows coming up.
We'll put some great pictures out.
There will be some great sightings,
maybe some videos if we can do that.
Either way,
make sure you check us out.
And again, like, we always end every show.
(56:17):
Tell you ghost,
we said hi.
Have a great week, everybody.
We'll talk to you later.
Thank you.
Speaker C (56:25):
See ya.
Bye, Ra.
Foreign.
Speaker B (00:13):
Thanks for tuning in to another episode of Dairyland Frights, the paranormal
podcast that covers everything spooky, creepy,and mysterious in the Midwest.
My name is John, and I'm here today with mytwo co hosts, Brooke and Megan.
Hey, Brooke, how are you doing today?
Speaker C (00:30):
I'm doing good.
Pretty excited.
Another funny, fun, interesting story for youguys.
Speaker B (00:36):
Megan, how's your Sunday going?
Speaker A (00:38):
It's going well.
I've been staying at home, not doing much, but
this podcast is going to be great today.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker B (00:45):
Awesome. Awesome.
Yes, we have some really good topics today.
The Ridgeway Ghost and the Mineral PointVampire.
So what I always say, New York, you don'talways have vampires in California.
We got vampires in Wisconsin, too, so.
But before we get into it,
let's start off with a quick paranormal newssegment from Megan.
(01:11):
Take it away, Megan.
Speaker A (01:13):
All right.
Thanks, John.
This story that I'm going to tell you abouttoday is really interesting, especially
because a few weeks ago we did another podcastepisode about who Holy Hill.
And this paranormal news kind of ties in withthat, which we thought that was very
interesting.
So if you are someone who's on Facebook, feelfree to follow along as I tell this story.
(01:34):
Go to Facebook and look up Holy Hill Art Farm.
You'll see when you look at it, you know, it'sa very bright, welcoming, fun page.
It's about this rustic farm venue in Hubertus,Wisconsin.
So this one post that they made back in March29th of 2022,
(01:56):
it's very interesting.
It's not their normal post.
It has 2.5 thousand reactions and 1.3 thousandcomments.
So we looked into it and something veryinteresting about it.
And by the way, if you want to find it, usethe search feature on their Facebook page and
look up a word like paranormal and you'll findit.
(02:19):
Anyways.
So the post reads from this art farm.
Our trail camera set up in the southwestcornfield captured a very creepy figure
walking along the edge of the field.
The camera, with no easy access from the road,is a motion sensor camera and only takes
pictures when something triggers the device.
(02:40):
This almost proves that the figure must havebeen moving for the camera to have taken a
photo.
So you can see this photo on their post.
And it kind of looks like this tall, thin
woman who might be wearing this, like, whitenightgown or dress.
It's very spooky.
And the interesting thing is that this figure,she's almost as tall as the corn stalks behind
(03:05):
her.
And I had to look this up, but Wisconsin
cornstalks They can be like, stick six toeight feet or even taller.
So this is a really tall figure.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So then I decided to look at the comments.
You know, what do people think that this
figure is?And some people are saying, oh, it kind of
looks like someone in, like, an old nurse'suniform,
(03:25):
you know?
Yeah, I see that.
Speaker C (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker A (03:28):
Or there were some people who were a bit more skeptical in the comments.
Some people were saying it kind of looks likean old feed bag that got stuck.
Stuck in the corn, which very well could bewith it being around corn.
So I don't know.
I. What do you two think this looks like?
Speaker C (03:45):
Yeah, it's really interesting.
I mean, I could.
I. I was also reading the comments on thatpost, and I saw people say that, but it
definitely looks like it has, like, twodistinct legs and a head, so it's.
I don't know, it's a little odd.
And I know the.
The people who posted at the Holy Hill ArtFont farm, they.
They didn't seem to think that it was a feedbag, so they.
(04:07):
They thought it was.
And they also.
Someone mentioned that it almost looks like
she's, like, carrying something because she'skind of hunched over.
I know Megan. When I. When we first talkedabout this, Megan was like, oh, it's like me
running to the kids in the middle of the nightto get shredded cheese.
Speaker A (04:23):
You know, me just getting my snack.
Speaker C (04:26):
Yeah, yeah.
And maybe, like, I could definitely just seeit being like a real person just wandering out
in the fields at night, too.
And not even like a ghost, but.
Speaker A (04:34):
Yeah. What do you think, John?
Speaker B (04:37):
So what's really interesting about trail cams is people don't understand.
They're really hard to.
How do I say, like, fake stuff with?Because basically all they are is the camera.
And I've never used some, but my.
Some of my cousins are big hunters.
So basically it's just a camera with a motion
(04:58):
detector.
So something goes past,
takes a picture.
That's it.
So there's no way to kind of like, Photoshopthings or anything like that.
You would have to really kind of go out ofyour way to do it because it's very simple
tech.
So to me, it looks like someone,
and it's really hard.
You know, your eyes play tricks on you, but
kind of looks like someone is running forsomething or running and try to get something.
(05:23):
But it's.
It's a real cool picture and.
Speaker C (05:26):
Right.
Speaker B (05:27):
Interesting.
Speaker A (05:28):
It definitely looks like she's moving pretty quickly.
If it is a figure, it's interesting So Iwanted to learn more, you know, from the
comments.
So I looked at a few, and one woman named
Wendy, she wrote,
there are definitely spirits roaming thisarea.
I used to hear kids laughing and playing inthe middle of the night during the summer
months when the windows were open.
(05:49):
I actually got up out of bed to check on mykids, and they were sound asleep.
So there's.
There's other mysterious things happening in
this area, and we know that since it's soclose to Holy Hill, and I'll talk about that
in a few minutes.
But another woman named Carol wrote, spirits
are all around us.
They will not hurt you.
(06:10):
I know this because the property where I live
has many spirits.
Take some time to study the area and who livedthere in the past.
It's exciting to learn from them.
So I thought that was a. Yeah, it's like aninteresting view on it.
But something interesting I wanted to look upis how far away from Holy Hill Basilica, the
church in the area?
(06:31):
How far is that away from Holy Hill Art Farm?And it's only three and a half miles away.
So I don't think it's a coincidence thatthere's just so much paranormal activity going
on around this area.
And if you as listeners want to learn moreabout that, we have an entire episode
dedicated just to the legends of Holy Hill.
(06:53):
I believe it's our episode number five, so you
can take a look at that.
We talk about the Hermit of Holy Hill, and wealso talk about the Goatman of Hogsback Road.
So if you want to hear more creepy storiesfrom this same area, definitely check it out.
Brooke actually told multiple personal storiesthat she had from the area, and they're really
great, so you won't want to miss them.
(07:15):
So definitely take a look at our old number
five episode.
And I also wanted to point out we are going tobe starting an Instagram for Dairyland
Frights.
So if you'd like to see this.
Yeah, we want to see this mysterious, creepyphoto that the Art Farm posted.
We are going to put that on our Instagram pagefor all of you to check out.
Speaker C (07:36):
So look us up.
Speaker A (07:37):
Dairyland Frights.
And without further ado, I'm going to go aheadand pass it on.
We're going to focus on some other really coolstories from the town of Mineral Point,
Wisconsin,
which has this odd amount of paranormalactivity going on.
So I am very excited to learn more about this.
So we're gonna start off with John, and he's
(07:57):
gonna tell us about the Ridgeway Ghost.
Speaker B (08:01):
Thank you, Megan.
That was really interesting.
And yeah.
On our Instagram, please share any creepy
pictures you may have.
You know, we can figure out if they're fakethough, so don't try to run one path.
We're smarter than that.
Right,
Megan and Brooke?
Speaker A (08:16):
Yeah, I like to think so.
Speaker B (08:19):
Scary is scary.
If you send a scary picture, we love it, you
know,
so Ridgeway goes.
Ladies,
this is really interesting.
So just really quickly I want to tell you
about my footnotes here so I get those out ofthe way so everybody gets credit.
So, G.A.
hernandez, I got this from Horror History,
(08:42):
a New York Times article from the early 1900sand also a book by William Horner called the
Wisconsin Ridgeway Ghost.
This is actually kind of an interesting book
because it's a kids book,
so it's kind of interesting.
Somebody did the kids book about the Ridgeway
(09:02):
ghost.
You're gonna find out.
Maybe it's not for kids.
So start out where Ridgeway is.
If you're not from Wisconsin, it's about
southwest Wisconsin.
There's a small town, it's called ridgeway.
It's about 600 people.
And it's one of the few ghosts, though,
that throughout the history would be rumoredto have killed the living first ghost.
(09:33):
That someone can say,
someone died from this ghost.
Okay.
And one of the topics we'll have to coverMegan and Brooke and some topics about how
ghosts have killed people,
which is.
Has always been interesting, like people
literally dying of fright.
So anyway,
(09:53):
it haunts the US Route 151 between Dodgevilleand Blue Mounds, which is basically about 40
minutes away from my house.
It's just a roughly 20 mile stretch of road,
primarily farmland.
Speaker C (10:08):
It does go.
Sorry, I just wanted to say it does go rightto Mineral Point two, which will tie into our
following story.
It's kind of interesting.
It like connects Bridgeway and Mineral Point,so.
Yeah, yeah, very intriguing.
Speaker B (10:20):
We're so professional.
So one of the things I'm going to give you aquick history.
I won't use my old timely voice this timebecause, oh, darn,
well, maybe I will.
But anyway,
maybe once in a while.
Anyway, so the entire area of southwestern
Wisconsin had a population explosion in the1830s with about 10,000 immigrants coming
(10:45):
every year to work in the lead mines.
And, you know, many tried to make it theirhome.
And that to me is crazy because you thinkabout it, 10,000 immigrants coming to Ridgeway
a lot.
That's a lot,
right?
So this is even funnier to me because if youknow Ridgeway or any small town in Wisconsin,
(11:08):
you're kind of like Especially us who havelived in Wisconsin pretty much all our lives.
It was a wild place.
Gambling and drinking and fighting andknifings and shootings and really?
So there was like, no law.
Like, you could literally just go to the car
and stab somebody and everybody be like, well.
Speaker C (11:33):
Yep, yep.
Speaker B (11:34):
Start a fight.
Like, that's my woman.
Bam. You know,
so it sounds very.
So, like, any of these shows you've seen aboutthe old West?
That was Ridgeway, Wisconsin, at one time.
Isn't that weird?
Speaker C (11:47):
It is, but, yeah, it makes sense.
I. Yeah, I have a couple stories for later,
and I'm like, it definitely all makes sense.
Knowing what I know now.
Speaker B (11:55):
It's just bizarre to me because going to Ridgeway now or go on Google Earth
and look at it, you're like, huh,
doesn't make sense.
Anyway, so on May 1, 1913, a fire swept
through the downtown area of Ridgeway.
High winds quickly spread.
It burned through most of the buildings
downtown, including the post office, bank,lumberyard,
(12:17):
train depot.
And here's the.
The funny thing is,
after that, the Ridgeway fire department wasestablished, so they didn't even have a fire.
Speaker C (12:26):
Oh, oh.
After the fire department, yeah.
Speaker B (12:30):
So it just basically destroyed the town anyway.
So really what they found out was that's kindof when this Ridgeway ghost happened.
So I kind of get into that because this is, tome, really, really interesting.
What the first thing I find interesting issome people claim that the ghostly activity
(12:55):
increases every 40 years.
And this is starting in the 1850s, so you canmark your calendar.
I guess it's gonna happen.
Now, this is the weird thing.
And.
And please,
Megan and Brooke, tell me if you've ever heardanything like this, because this is really
strange.
So the Ridgewig ghost can change its shape at
(13:18):
will from a man with a whip.
Who knows why?A dog,
a sheep,
a pig,
a horse and a ball of fire.
And my favorite horseman.
I'm not finished yet.
Keep going.
Speaker A (13:37):
But wait, there's more.
Speaker B (13:38):
There's more.
A young woman, an old woman,
and more.
So can I ask you both, have you ever heard ofa ghost that can do all those things,
including animals?
Speaker C (13:50):
That is.
That's.
To me, that sounds more like.
I. I feel like.
Don't like skinwalkers.
Isn't that more of a thing that's supposed to
be able to change its form?I don't know about it.
Speaker B (14:02):
A horse and a sheep.
Speaker C (14:06):
It's pretty wild, right?
Speaker B (14:09):
Isn't that weird?
Speaker C (14:10):
Very weird.
Speaker B (14:11):
Megan, what do you think?
Speaker A (14:12):
I like how this Ridgeway ghost, it covers the gamut you know, if there's a farm
animal you want to be like, it can be it.
You know,
it's very versatile.
No, I have not heard of any ghosts being ableto do this.
Speaker B (14:25):
Neither have I. I've heard, like, a ghost will be a ghost of an animal, like a
horse.
And you'll see the horse or you'll see the
man, and he'll.
And there'll be a man or maybe a woman.
But it just.
Can I kind of get doing now?
Here's the other thing I think is it's scary.
Very scary.
Ghost appears out of nowhere and it attacks aperson, often travelers, and then disappears.
(14:51):
So if you remember from our last not so miniepisode, the Banshee of South Dakota,
please look at that one, because it's kind ofinteresting.
She would just appear out of nowhere.
Speaker A (15:01):
Right.
Speaker B (15:02):
Here she is.
And you're like,
okay.
So I just.
I've never heard anything like that in all of
my research and all my things.
I listen to podcasts and reading books and
that this ghost appears out of nowhere.
It could be a pig.
So you could just be, like, walking on the
street.
A pig comes out in front of you and attacks
you.
Speaker A (15:24):
That's Wisconsin for you.
Speaker C (15:26):
It is, right?
Speaker B (15:28):
The Headless Horseman, I think, is kind of funny.
That's.
I think is just a little bit of fun with
people because.
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker C (15:37):
John. There is.
I do have something that might.
That I. I'm gonna save it for later because Ithink it.
It's.
It's a funny story, but it could actually tie
into that very interestingly.
Speaker B (15:48):
Love it.
Love it.
So let's get to the first thing.
Okay, so one of the.
They call it folk tales, I don't know why.
Kind of lends itself, I guess, to a folktale.
Dr. Cutler of Dodgeville.
Of course, it's Dr. Cutler.
He told a story that a ghost appeared on thepole of his wagon.
(16:09):
So Dr. Cutler.
So that saw the Ridgeway ghost or phantom
three times in his life and the third timekilled him from fright, according to the New
York Times article.
Speaker C (16:24):
Wow.
Speaker B (16:26):
So remember, this is so weird, right?
Remember we did Haunted Roads and Bridgesabout.
You have to.
Oh, please help me out, ladies.
Where you drove in Evansville to this one
area, and you had to do it three times before.
Old man.
Speaker A (16:41):
Yeah. Weary road.
Speaker B (16:44):
Thank you.
So listen to that podcast because it's kind of
the same thing,
right?Everything happens in threes.
That weird three knocks.
If you hear three knocks in your house,
that's the devil or demon,
you know,
mocking the Trinity.
3am you wake up.
Could be something fat.
Isn't that strange, you guys?
Speaker C (17:05):
It is.
Speaker B (17:06):
What do you feel about that?
Speaker C (17:08):
Yeah, I do see that pop up a lot.
I. Yeah.
I don't know though.
Yeah, it could be.
Could be something to it.
Speaker B (17:15):
Yeah. Megan, do you think three? Why is three.
Speaker A (17:19):
Well, something that just makes me laugh is the first two signs he saw the ghost.
I guess it wasn't that scary.
The third time was just.
That was enough.
Speaker C (17:29):
Right?
Speaker A (17:29):
Just get him right in.
Speaker B (17:32):
Weird, right? So all this New York Times article and I'll
put a link on the website or if we want to putit on our Instagram page,
we will do that too.
If we.
If we.
We feel that would be a great thing for you
guys to read because it's a great article fromthe New York Times,
an established newspaper, obviously.
Speaker C (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker B (17:52):
Ridgeway, Wisconsin and a ghost.
So the same article had the tale of John Lewiswho.
Who encountered a giant dark figure on his wayhome from helping a friend butcher animals.
So he must have killed the pig.
And you know, the other pig was mad, I guess,at the Ridgeway ghost.
So this is funny too.
So John Lewis attacked the strange figure with
(18:14):
a knife.
Of course you would do that.
And then he was found semi conscious thefollowing day.
He said he had been plucked up in the air andtossed around,
describing something similar to that of atornado.
Speaker A (18:28):
Oh, crazy.
Speaker B (18:30):
And then guess what happened.
Ladies died a few hours after.
Speaker A (18:35):
There's a pattern here.
Speaker B (18:38):
Right.
Speaker C (18:39):
So very interesting.
Speaker B (18:40):
Those are two deaths now I've heard again,
maybe we'll cover this as a topic.
People dying of fright or someone beingassaulted.
But two deaths in a row.
Interesting.
And that it was with so much force as atornado.
Speaker C (18:54):
Wow. Yeah, A lot of energy.
Speaker A (18:57):
So it is.
Speaker B (18:58):
What was interesting to me was the W files at the website.
And I don't want to spurge anybody from goingto this website, but I'm going to tell you, it
was like it was created in the 80s.
I'm sure people, you know, doing their best,like we do our best.
However,
it does have an entire page of stories aboutthe Ridgeway ghost.
(19:21):
Really?Just people talking about if they've seen it
and stuff.
But everything from ghostly hands playingpoker to giant vanishing pigs.
Speaker A (19:31):
There you go with the pigs.
Speaker B (19:32):
Hey. That gave a farmer such a fright that he became.
Speaker C (19:36):
What?
Speaker B (19:37):
Sick and died.
So this is the third one.
Speaker C (19:41):
Wow.
Speaker B (19:41):
So people who see this ghost,
even if it's a pig ghost,
are dying.
So,
you know, I.
It's kind of interesting how all these peopleare dying in this town.
Now, remember,
this is a town full of knives and fightingsand certain disease.
Right?We'll talk about it.
(20:03):
Yes or no?If we believe in this.
Obviously, at the end of my episode, but.
So Charles E. Brown, the director of WisconsinFolklore society, wrote a four page collection
in 1943 about the stories of the Ridgewayghost.
It's worth a read.
And I think like most things in history,
there are similarities to more modern talestold.
(20:26):
So it is a book out there that both you couldread.
You know, it's just the kind of the same oldsame.
Oh, we saw these ghosts and shadows andapparitions and all that good stuff.
But being that three people died just reallyquickly.
Before I go on to how the origin of theRidgeway ghost.
Brooke, what do you think?
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Have you ever heard of, like three peopledying with a ghost?
Again, like I said, I haven't.
Speaker C (20:54):
No, I really haven't.
I feel like that's.
I mean, even what Megan said earlier in theepisode, that.
That Facebook comment where they said, thespirits are not there to hurt you.
They won't harm you.
So I haven't.
I honestly even like the evil spirits you hearabout.
I haven't really heard of it, like harminganyone, maybe shoving someone or maybe,
you know, being a nuisance,
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stuff like that.
But that's.
That's really interesting.
Speaker B (21:19):
Yeah, yeah.
Make it.
What do you think?
Speaker A (21:22):
I'd be interested to hear if there are more stories of people seeing this ghost
taking different forms, because you said itcould be, you know, a dog or a sheep.
So it's very interesting that there's thisrepetitive, like pig apparition sort of thing.
So I know if I ever see pigs, I'm running theother way.
Speaker B (21:40):
Running, running the other way.
Speaker A (21:41):
It's decided.
Speaker C (21:42):
Yeah. Very, very spooky.
Speaker B (21:44):
Don't look at your barbecue ribs the same again.
Speaker A (21:49):
I don't know if I can give that up.
Speaker B (21:53):
So, the origin of the Ridgeway ghost.
There's been many stories, so let's start withthe first one.
Two teenage brothers at McKillop Saloon in1840.
Two brothers, ages 4 and 15, were murdered.
The motivation is unclear why they weremurdered, but one of the brothers was tossed
into a fireplace.
Speaker C (22:12):
No. Oh, wow.
Speaker B (22:13):
They burned it.
That's.
The other brother rose to death as heattempted to run away from town.
Somehow from those deaths arose the Ridgewaygoats.
So,
okay, that's the first one.
So keep these in the back of your mind,
ladies, and we'll kind of see what happens.
My favorite, the bar bra.
Speaker A (22:34):
Oh, boy.
I'm ready.
Speaker B (22:36):
Around the 1840s, of course you're gonna have a bar bra.
Come on.
The village resulted in the murder of a man,
of course.
Speaker C (22:43):
Force.
Speaker B (22:44):
Now, they're in a lot of details here, but there were plenty of saloons where
it's reasonable assume brawls broke out.
Yeah, it's the 1800s.
Everybody fought and people were killed.
So why it turned out that one of them turnedinto an aggressive ghost is anyone's guess.
So next one, the New York Times article.
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So on December 7, 1902,
the New York Times published a story calledSome Wisconsin Go.
And in the theme articles that I mentionedabove regarding Dr. Cutler, at the beginning
of this Ridgeway Go section, he's supposed tobe the wrath of a man in the lead mining days
before the Civil War.
Speaker C (23:25):
Oh, okay.
Speaker B (23:28):
So if you're going.
So the Civil.
I'm a big history buff.
I don't know if I've ever told you that, butI'm a huge history buff.
So the Civil War in Wisconsin was not.
We weren't a state that people wanted.
We were basically.
There was Camp Randall.
Yes, that is a Civil War site.
But we were mostly prisoners were broughthere.
So people looked at Wisconsin like,
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what?Wisconsin?
You're a prisoner in Wisconsin.
We had fighting and there were a couplebattles, but yeah, not really.
So I don't know about that one.
And then the last one is, it's made up because
there are no police reports,
no pictures or videos.
I did see this YouTube video where this guywas walking around Ridgeway.
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It's like a 20 minute video.
And again, I love all our people who are doingparanormal and starting out just like us.
But he just walked around and he kind oftalked about things.
Yeah. Okay, you watch it if you want to.
His name was J. Nathan Couch.
Speaker C (24:32):
Oh,
yeah, he's the guy who wrote the.
The book about the goat Man, I think.
Oh,
he's pretty positive.
I know I've talked about him in like a very
recent episode.
Speaker B (24:45):
Seems like a good guy, you know?
Speaker C (24:47):
Yeah, yeah.
There's so many like recurring characters in
like the Dairyland fright cinematic universe.
Speaker A (24:54):
I like that.
Speaker B (24:57):
And I did find a few stories from locals that said the entire thing have been
made up in the 1850s to scare troublemakersout of town.
Speaker C (25:08):
I mean, I could see it maybe.
Speaker B (25:11):
So like the other origin stories, you know, Again, I couldn't verify this.
I really looked around.
Also read about some comments on Facebook.
I have to say they were very lame.
It was like I saw the ghost when I was walking
my dog.
Speaker C (25:25):
Okay, well, okay, maybe they did.
Speaker B (25:28):
Okay, you did.
Speaker A (25:29):
You did.
Speaker B (25:29):
No pictures.
Just whatever.
So anyway, I didn't include those.
What?We were trying with research today,
but like I said, Jay now.
Jay Nathan Couch.
I also did a.
There's a children's book by William Hornerand yes, you can go on Amazon and buy this
book.
It's kind of out of print, and I found one
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that I was going to buy because I wasthinking, I'll support local guy for some
reason.
It was $275.
Speaker A (25:56):
Oh, ****.
Speaker B (25:58):
You know why it's expensive Here, though, is a quote from a former Ridgeway
resident.
I used to live in Ridgeway.
It is very interesting, but sadly, not many
paranormal things happen.
The water tower has a ghost painted on it,which it does.
Go past Ridgeway.
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There is a ghost.
Speaker C (26:19):
Awesome.
That's so cool.
Speaker B (26:21):
On the water tower still to this day, by the way.
You can go and look it up.
It's pretty.
Pretty interesting.
And the police have a ghost on their crest,
which you can go online.
You can see that.
So.
Speaker C (26:34):
Oh, my God, that's awesome.
Speaker B (26:36):
Just like our hodag.
And just like, peppy.
Not peppy.
The.
I'm sorry, the water cryptid.
Speaker C (26:45):
Like pepper monster.
Speaker B (26:46):
Okay. You know, where people dive in and say, hey, we're gonna make this part.
So Ridgeway has dove all the way in.
Being that the.
The police have a crest and it's on the watertower.
It is widely talked about there, and it's afun story to hear about.
Not really.
People are scared.
Even the elementary book school has booksabout ghosts and they talk about ghosts all
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the time, which.
Why didn't I go to that school?
Come on.
Speaker C (27:11):
Right? That sounds awesome.
Speaker B (27:13):
So the town is rich in ghost lore,
and they even have a festival every year.
And a ghost run.
Yeah, they really, you know, really go into.
I even saw, like, in some local bakery.
Had, like ghost cookies in there.
Like I said, they have a ghost run, and.
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And some people put on sheets and run and.
You know what I mean, with the eye holes and
kind of cheesy way of.
So,
you know,
what can you say.
Speaker C (27:49):
That'S terrifying?
Speaker B (27:52):
So I'm gonna start with you, Megan.
Speaker A (27:54):
Real or not,
I'm gonna lean towards not.
I feel like a lot of the stories could just beexplained by just regular physical happenings.
Plus, it's giving me, like, you said, like,hodag vibes.
Like, oh, we're gonna make this into,
like a bunch of scary stories we tell in thedark,
so. But I do think it's a Cool premise.
(28:16):
I will give them that.
Speaker B (28:18):
Yeah. What do you think?
Speaker C (28:21):
Yeah, I. I feel like I don't know that I believe that it's like one ghost who
did all these crazy things.
Like, to me,
I don't know.
Like, especially after reading about Mineral
Point, it seems like this,
like, southwest area of Wisconsin is very,like, rich with ghost lore.
Despite having, like, a very low populationthere, there's a lot of, like, spooky stuff
going on in the area in general.
(28:43):
So I could see it being like there aredifferent paranormal occurrences, but that
they're not all, like, one ghost that's justbeen haunting the **** out of everybody.
So I don't know.
I feel like I lean more towards.
Yeah, there's some spooky stuff going on, but
it isn't all connected in the way that they'resaying.
Speaker B (29:01):
But yeah,
I think that's really cool.
I think it's a ****** Doo plot.
I think it's like old man Wilbur.
Oh, man, Wilbur.
They ripped that go.
And he's been away from my child.
I let you know so.
Speaker C (29:16):
I could see that.
Speaker B (29:17):
Yeah, right.
Because here's where I always, you know, like,I,
like all of us, have read numerous ghoststories, podcasts, listen to,
you know, what typically is.
It's like, here's the ghost.
It shows up at three and that, you know,that's a residual honky.
Right?Okay, three o'.
Clock, Here comes old man will be and they'rewalking down the hall.
(29:40):
Or intelligent haunting, right?Where you walk in and, you know, you sit down
and then all of a sudden, I don't know, yourTV turns on and off or, you know, lights go on
and off and you don't know what's going on.
But with this, it's just, to me so much like,it can be a pig,
it could be a woman, it could be a headlesshorseman.
Right.
(30:00):
And being that people died from fright on thethird time to.
To Megan's point, why wouldn't you die tofright on the first time?
Because it's a go.
Speaker C (30:10):
That's.
Speaker B (30:12):
Anyway, so I'm gonna give a big no to.
I love it, though, that Ridgeway is kind ofyou placing the arms around this and saying,
hey, you know, fun.
And everyone has a little fun about it.
Speaker C (30:25):
So I love that too.
Speaker B (30:26):
He is really fun.
And maybe we would do an investigation there
and whether prove the ghost is there or not.
Speaker C (30:34):
So just going up to random farm animals.
Speaker B (30:42):
Pointing our em.
Whatever thing I see,
I do have one.
Nice.
So here's one that I think is kind ofinteresting.
I've heard about it.
I think if you're only in Wisconsin, you've
probably heard about it.
But it's the Mineral Point Vampire.
Speaker C (31:04):
Oh my gosh.
I had heard of this, but I honestly.
Oh my God.
It's just such a funny story.
But so I want to talk about a couple of thesources.
So I, I have this book called Chasing AmericanMonsters by Jason Offit.
It's a fun.
It kind of goes through like cryptids, the
most popular cryptids from each state in theU.S. it's very fun, but it just gives like a
very high level, like very, very high leveloverview of like every story.
(31:28):
But I would definitely recommend it.
And then the Wisconsinology website,
the ranker website, which was kind ofinteresting.
And then also it's interesting that youmentioned the W Files because I found a couple
quotes from that as well.
Actually it was like a book too.
I think it's a website and a book.
But yeah, they popped up in my research as
well.
(31:49):
So this is gonna be a fun story.
So you'll have to.
We'll have to decide by the end whether wethink that this spring heel being is a real
vampire or Cryptid or is it just a wacky localgoth with an interest in Parkour?
I'm so intrigued.
It's very intriguing.
Speaker B (32:06):
Hey. Hey, Brooke, could you explain Parkour to our audience who may not know what
that is?It's.
Speaker C (32:12):
Oh yeah.
Well, I would recommend watching the.
The Cold Open to the Office episode where
they're trying out Parkour,
but it's basically trying to get from like onelocation to the other in like a creative,
crazy way, like doing flips, jumping offwalls, jumping.
Climbing up walls, that kind of stuff.
And it definitely seems like this, thisMineral Point Vampire had a. Had an interest
(32:38):
in this.
As we'll find out.
Speaker B (32:40):
Hardcore parkour.
You gotta watch the Office.
Speaker C (32:44):
Yes, I always think about that.
Speaker B (32:48):
Very fun.
Speaker C (32:51):
So let's set the scene a little bit.
We. We were just talking about Ridgeway.
So Mineral Point is like a 15 minute drive
from Ridgeway down 151.
So it's in the same general area.
And this story kind of takes place over thespan of quite a few years.
So 1981 was the first sighting.
In 2008 was the most recent sighting.
So a pretty wide span of time.
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And also Monroe point is about 45 miles westof Madison, Wisconsin too.
So it's in the driftless area of Wisconsin.
So it's surrounded by forests and hills and
it's very picturesque.
And if you're not familiar with, like, whatthat term means?
Basically, pretty much all of Wisconsin was,like,
mowed over by glaciers way back in the.
(33:33):
In the day.
I don't know.
I'm not even gonna estimate a time,
but there's a certain area of, like, southwestWisconsin, basically, like, the lower left
quad quadrant of Wisconsin was not touched byglaciers.
So it's called the driftless area.
And it is a lot more, like, hilly and just
very pretty.
Like,
more so than the rest of Wisconsin, obviously.
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Like, there's tons of forests up in the north,
but it's very, like, flat.
The rest of the state's very flat.
So the city, it's very cute.
It has, like, a adorable little downtown area
with, like, old stone buildings.
I love all the towns, like, out in this area.
They're so pretty and fun.
And today, the population of the town is 2500people.
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So it has been about that number for a longtime,
at least since the early 90s.
And another source.
So this is kind of interesting, John, you said
that there was, like, a big population boomin,
like, I think it was, like, the 1840s orsomething like that, because people were going
there for mining and all these different jobs.
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And the population, actually of Mineral Point
got to, like,
3,400, I think, at its peak.
And then it, like, dropped, which is kind of
unusual.
So it, like, steadily, like, went down from
that point until now.
So it was at its lowest point, actually, in
1980.
So that's when our story starts, when thepopulation was at its lowest point.
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And there also are some people who say thatpeople left the town because of alleged
paranormal activity, which I don't.
I cannot find any evidence of that being the
reason.
But, you know, I think it was.
Well.
Well, there was a Facebook commenter whothinks it was a different reason.
We'll get to that in a little bit.
But.
But anyway,
our story starts in 1981, on March 14th.
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So this is the first sighting of the Mineral
Point vampire.
Basically, the police were called to theGraceland cemetery to investigate a
trespassing.
They said there was, like, a. What weirdfigure, like, walking around the cemetery.
So the police officers, obviously, this is asmall town.
They don't have a ton going on, I imagine.
So they head over.
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Specifically, the officer, John Pepper,
went over to kind of check it out, and he sawthis dark figure lurking among the tombstones.
And officer John Pepper described this figureas a huge person wearing a black cape with a
white painted face, about six foot five andugly.
Speaker A (36:03):
Oh, my God.
Speaker B (36:05):
Description?
Speaker C (36:06):
Yeah,
not Not. You didn't specify what made himugly, but he was ugly.
So he saw this guy and he was like, hey, whatare you doing?
And the being like looked at him, whoever thiswas, whether it was a guy, a vampire,
whatever, he looked at Officer Pepper and hegot spooked and he ran away and he easily
scaled, like leapt over a four foot fence atthe edge of the cemetery.
(36:30):
Other sources said it was a six foot fence andthat he like literally took totally jumped
like superhuman leap over the fence.
So.
Interesting.
And then I. That didn't come from OfficerPepper though.
It was like some other local who said that thefence was actually like taller than four feet
high.
(36:51):
Yeah, I know.
It just keeps getting higher and higher aspeople retell the story.
Speaker B (36:55):
Yeah.
Speaker C (36:56):
So when the police came back to look for evidence the next day, because it was
night, so they couldn't really see a ton ofstuff.
So they came back the next day and.
And they found footsteps in the snow, Ibelieve, leading up to the fence.
But they didn't see any footsteps on the otherside of the fence where the guy apparently
jumped over.
It was kind of interesting.
Speaker B (37:14):
Yeah.
Speaker C (37:14):
And this kind of confused them and they figured like maybe this was some kind of
hoax.
So they didn't really like look into it any
further.
But apparently like this became big news inthe town.
So apparently like this was the first of manycemetery encounters with a vampire.
Although I couldn't find specific othersightings.
But what did happen was this like createdvampire fever and mineral point for like a
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couple weeks.
Everyone was talking about.
Yeah, it was such a. It was a huge topic.
Everyone was talking about it.
Speaker B (37:48):
I love it.
Speaker C (37:49):
Yeah. So there were tons of people like saying, oh, I saw the vampire here, I saw
the vampire there.
But like not being very serious about it.
Also, apparently people were dressing asvampires at bars.
Yeah, they would like go to the bar dressed asvampires and they even made T shirts.
Oh yeah, they made a T shirt.
Said like I was bitten by the mineral pointvampire.
Speaker B (38:10):
Oh my God, you're so bad.
Speaker C (38:13):
Yeah, I know, right? I know.
Yeah.
And again, I will.
I'll touch on that.
We'll come back to this, but.
Very funny.
So everything kind of died down though.
You know, this was kind of like a one timething.
People were like crazy about it for like acouple months and then things kind of died
down.
And the next like major sighting did not
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actually occur until March of 2004.
So same month, this was again in March,
but you know,
years later,
like 20, I don't know, 23 years later.
So on this day,
the police received calls about a man who wasin a tree near a local apartment building.
And he was like heckling tenants and likeleaping down at them as they pass by and like
(38:59):
trying to scare him and stuff.
Speaker B (39:02):
Megan, that wasn't me.
I. I promise you.
Speaker C (39:09):
Right. Oh my God.
Speaker A (39:10):
Prove it, John.
Speaker C (39:11):
Boy, I can't.
Speaker B (39:13):
You guys got.
Speaker C (39:14):
Where was John in March of 2004? We don't know.
Speaker B (39:19):
Maybe there.
Speaker C (39:21):
Yeah,
but anyway, so the police were called againbecause this guy was heckling everybody.
And so the.
When they.
Which the vampire leapt to the ground from thetree and then he like looked at him and ran
off.
And this time they said that he climbed a ten
foot concrete wall.
Speaker B (39:38):
Whoa.
Speaker C (39:40):
Yeah. And then he disappeared into the night.
And again they said the police followed histracks in the snow to the wall, but could not
pursue him past the wall because there were notracks on the other side of the wall.
So leading people to believe that maybe thisis just a thought, but maybe as he climbed the
fence and the wall, he like turned into a bat.
Speaker A (40:01):
Ah, okay.
Yeah.
Speaker C (40:02):
Maybe that's why his footsteps were not on the other side.
We don't know.
So anyway,
again, he kind of disappears for four years.
Also, interestingly, and I did not look intothis because I couldn't really find anything
besides a weird website who mentioned it, butapparently there was a state senator between
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1981 and 2004 who was trying to make being avampire illegal in Wisconsin.
And I. I did not like too much.
Yeah, apparently it did, because this guydisappeared for 23 years.
That's the reason that this author.
Yeah,
it's like.
Oh, that's interesting.
(40:43):
I would like to look more into that.
Well, maybe we'll touch on it next week.
Yeah,
but,
but yeah, very, very interesting.
So, yeah, so 2004, he disappears for four moreyears.
And then in July of 2008, the weirdestencounter I think, of all of them happens.
So,
July of 2008, a young couple, Brandon Hines,who was 22 at the time, and Jamie Marker, who
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was 19,
they were fishing at Ludden Lake at nightaround 10pm I fish and have you.
That's interesting.
Yeah, well, this, that's where this happened.
So they're out on like a kind of like floatingdock that goes out into the lake.
Yeah.
And they said.
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So they heard something like crawling
underneath the dock.
And Brandon actually said that it almost
sounded like someone was using the dock as aladder underneath, like climbing along the
other side of it.
Very odd.
Speaker A (41:40):
Heck no.
Speaker C (41:42):
Right. So Brandon, he thought this was some type of animal.
So he was kind of like, stomping on the dock,and then he heard something splash into the
water.
And, you know, at this point, they're like,oh, it's probably like a raccoon or something.
Who knows?So he has a flashlight and he shines it into
the water.
And what they see at the end of the dock is atall, thin man with a white face climbing.
(42:02):
Climbing onto the dock.
Yeah. Terrifying.
So terrified, Jamie ran immediately back to,like, starts sprinting for the car.
And then Brandon was, like, kind of in shock,like, staring at the sky.
And after a couple seconds, after getting agood look at him, he threw his flashlight at
the man and then also sprinted off.
They, like, completely, like, they left alltheir belongings behind, like their fishing
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poles and everything.
They were so terrified, they just booked it.
Speaker B (42:28):
Yeah.
Speaker C (42:29):
And they both described this figure as wearing a cape of some sort or like some
kind of Dracula costume.
Like, that's what he literally said.
And then Jamie claims to have witnessed thevampire rushing towards them as they sped away
in the car.
So, like, she got in the car, she was waiting
for Brandon to get there.
Then Brandon got there, they sped away, andshe looked in the rearview mirror and saw him,
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like, chasing after them.
So naturally, they both drove straight to theMineral Point police station to report what
they had seen.
Scene.
And the police went and investigated.
They didn't find anything.
And then the following day,
they,
Jamie and Brandon went back to London Lake toretrieve their belongings.
And they found everything.
Like, everything was accounted for except for
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the flashlight.
And Brandon Hines said, whoever it is, they
could keep it.
I love that.
Speaker A (43:17):
So.
Speaker C (43:19):
So he was.
Yeah,
he did not want to see him again.
So this, to our knowledge, to what I couldfind, was the last real run in with this
Mineral Point Vampire character.
Although there's other, like, random thingsthat kind of pop up every once in a while, but
these are, like, the main encounters.
And then I found a.
I love coming back to these Facebook commentsbecause it's so funny.
(43:42):
I found a Facebook article that had, like,those about the Mineral Point vampire, and it
had quite a few shares and likes on it.
And this guy Ryan said the.
The vampire's name is Nick Sinetti,
and that's all he said.
There's no what's up?
Speaker A (43:59):
Okay. Okay.
Speaker C (44:01):
Like, it might have just been one of his friends.
I don't know.
He didn't tag anyone.
But I did.
I did look it up, though.
There was a guy named Nick Sinetti who livedin Mineral Point at the Time.
So who knows?Maybe.
Maybe this guy knew.
Maybe that was who.
Maybe that guy was a mineral coin vampire.
And then a guy named Logan said people leftthe town because of the creatures.
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I think more than likely they left becausethere was no work, which I wanted to touch on
that because I thought that was probably true.
They probably didn't leave because there'sparanormal activity.
Speaker B (44:32):
Right?
Speaker C (44:33):
Yeah.
Speaker B (44:33):
Oh, ****.
Speaker C (44:35):
All the mining work.
Yeah.
Peggy said that she hasn't heard thesestories, but Officer Pepper gave her her first
and only speeding ticket.
Thanks, officer.
And my favorite one, which I wish I want to,like, contact these people, but, yeah, two
different people.
John and Jennifer both said that they had the
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shirt from 1981 that was going around thatsaid I was bitten by the vampire.
I know.
We need to find them and see.
See what the shirt looks like.
Speaker B (45:04):
Totally buying it.
Speaker C (45:06):
Yeah, I. If we could find it, I absolutely.
I would spend good money on that.
But yeah, so that's the mineral point vampire.
I have a couple other things about mineralpoint I want to talk about.
But first I want to ask you guys,
what do you think the vampire is?Megan.
Megan, what do you think?
Speaker A (45:24):
I kind of feel like it's just like a dude who just has, like, a very weird
fascination with, like, being Edward Cullenfrom Twilight.
Although this did come before Twilight cameout, so maybe that was the origination story.
Speaker C (45:38):
However, the, like, the later story is maybe, like, it was a different, just
random goth guy to start back in the 80s.
And then, like, he stopped being a vampire or
whatever.
And then, like, someone else brought back hislegacy after Twilight came out because, like,
the later stories, I think, came out aroundthat time.
So maybe because it was a long period of time,like 23 years.
(46:01):
So I'm like, it.
Could it be the same guy?
Maybe, but that is a good question.
Speaker A (46:06):
And then another thing that was kind of making me laugh.
Can you imagine this, like, dripping wetvampire just, like, running after your car?
Like, that's just.
Speaker B (46:14):
That's awesome.
Speaker A (46:15):
With, like, maybe, like, his makeup's, like.
Speaker C (46:17):
Dripping off his face.
Speaker A (46:18):
That's terrifying.
Speaker C (46:20):
It is terrifying.
But what do you think, John?
Do you think this is a real vampire?
Speaker B (46:26):
So, like, if, you know, if I heard and then the guy chasing me,
I would be like,
okay, something up here.
So what's super funny is my wife is obsessedwith vampires.
She's watched Twilight a gabillion times.
(46:47):
She's watched the Vampire Diaries.
She's watched True.
Speaker C (46:53):
Then, yeah, I feel like, John.
Speaker B (46:59):
What'S super funny about it is,
like, anything on vampire she watched so I,you know, so I shared this story with her and
she goes,
oh, I don't know.
That sounds like a fake.
I'm like, wait a minute.
Because she considers herself an expertbecause she read the Twilight books a billion
(47:21):
times.
Anne Rice interview the vampire.
Like I said, you would not believe, she's doneeverything with vampires.
And it's super funny because like I said, whenI shared to her, she immediately goes, now
it's fake.
Speaker C (47:34):
I believe her.
You know, I trust her because when, like, I
feel like if it was a real vampire, theywouldn't leave footprints in the snow.
Speaker B (47:41):
No, they would not.
Speaker C (47:42):
You know, that's.
Yeah.
Speaker B (47:44):
So you remember, like with vampires, you know, one of the things.
And I've been educated on this, by the way.
So really quickly,
vampires move extremely fast,
shape shift at any will they can.
They typically do not want to be seen because
they want to,
(48:04):
you know, remain anonymous and everything.
So I think it was just somebody's bored intheir small town, which,
oh, my God, I wish someone do this in SpringGreen where I live,
something.
Because it's super boring, you know, when youlive in a small town, like, nothing happens.
So he was just having fun.
And, you know, I wish they would adapt it like
(48:25):
the Ridgeway ghost,
you know,
have like a vampire run,
you know.
Speaker C (48:30):
Yeah.
Speaker B (48:32):
Or have vampire cookies.
I mean, you do a lot of things with it, so I'm
gonna say a hard no.
Speaker C (48:40):
I agree.
I agree.
Speaker A (48:42):
Yeah.
Speaker C (48:42):
I love.
I love the story, though.
I think it's very fun.
Speaker B (48:46):
Yeah.
Speaker C (48:48):
Yeah.
So I wanted to talk about.
Yeah. A couple other kind of fun things aboutMineral Point because this again,
town of like 2500 people is very small,
but there's like a lot of kind of weird stuffthat goes on in this area.
So one thing is there's this place called theWalker House and it's one of the oldest inns
in the state.
(49:08):
It's also a restaurant.
You can go there and have lunch or whatever.
But it looks very cool and spooky from theoutside.
It. Honestly, Megan, I feel like.
Didn't wizard at a keto box?
Speaker B (49:19):
Yes, he did.
Speaker C (49:20):
Yeah. Okay. I was like, I feel like I remember this.
So this place is really cool.
The current owners say that it's not hauntedand that they found no evidence of ghosts.
And I believe when wizard told us about thisplace, he also said that he didn't think that
it was haunted.
He's never experienced anything.
Okay. But the one time property manager of the
(49:40):
place, Walker Calvert, who no longer owns it,
he had numerous spectral encounters, includingOne with the headless man in 1981.
Speaker B (49:49):
Oh, there we go again.
Speaker C (49:51):
And, yeah, and this is.
So what this might come from is some peoplebelieve that the paranormal activity dates
back to a public execution of a murderer namedWilliam Caffey.
And this execution actually took place at thewalker House on November 1st of 1842.
And he was, like, hung.
(50:11):
Yeah. And. But what I thought was hilarious,though, was it said that he approached his
hanging while playing the funeral march usingempty beer bottles.
Speaker B (50:21):
Okay, of course.
Yeah.
Speaker C (50:23):
I was like, what a. What a Wisconsin thing.
But.
But anyway, I thought that was so funny.
I was like, well, maybe that kind of ties in
with your Headless Horseman story.
Maybe the literally ghost.
It's all connected.
Speaker B (50:34):
It is connected.
Speaker C (50:36):
Yeah. So. But yeah, the Walker house looks awesome.
I definitely.
I definitely want to go there, even just for
lunch.
Not, you know, maybe it's not haunted, but it
looks like a really cool place.
Another thing that happened was a werewolfsighting, which happens very frequently, it
turns out.
And another recurring character of theDairyland Fright Cinematic Universe, Linda
(50:59):
Godfrey, talks about a woman who actuallycontacted her in 2004 about a sighting of a
werewolf from 1987.
So she saw.
She said that she saw a werewolf running as hewas transforming in the middle of the day in
Spring in 1987.
And she also claimed that, like 15 to 20 otherpeople also witnessed this with her.
But Linda couldn't find and corroborate thestory with those other people.
(51:21):
So she just had that kind of one off story.
But again, like, this place is not that faraway from places like Elkhorn and stuff like
that.
We talked about the Beast of Bray Road.
So it's like, there's a lot of,
like, Dogman type stories from this area too,which is kind of interesting.
Speaker B (51:36):
Right.
Speaker C (51:38):
And then lastly,
there was also a sighting of a bright,mysterious light in 1986.
So very close in time.
A lot of these things happened in the 80s.
So according to the W Files by J. Raf,
a sheriff and several residents of MineralPoint witnessed a bright light hovering over
the city.
And it appeared to be motionless.
And then it took off at a high rate with no
(52:01):
speed or with.
Sorry, with no sound.
So it took off at a high rate of speed.
Sorry, with no sound.
And it's just interesting because theapparently, again, like 10 to 20 people
witness this and the timing is similar to,like, the werewolf sighting and the initial
vampire sightings.
And just.
Yeah, a lot of people think that Mineral Point
is kind of a hotbed of paranormal activitybecause of all this kind of weird and wacky
(52:25):
stuff that happens despite.
Again,
it's a very small town and a very kind of,like, secluded area, but.
But. Yeah. So that's.
That's mineral vampire, and that's mineral
point, Wisconsin.
Sounds like a fun place.
I've never actually been there.
Speaker B (52:39):
Yeah.
Speaker C (52:40):
But I would really like to go.
Just.
I feel like the vibes are.
Are intriguing.
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B (52:46):
It's a very nice place.
It's a nice little downtown.
Ridgeway is a nice little downtown.
Ridgeway has about seven bars and about three
churches.
So there you go.
Speaker C (52:57):
More bars and churches.
That's like the quintessential small town
Wisconsin, Wisconsin trope.
Speaker B (53:04):
So we had some great stories today.
I love.
You know, we had a ghost that killed three
people and can turn into a pig.
And so that's the vampire.
You know, people really getting behind that.
I think it's super cool.
And also, you know, our paranormal news, it's
something we will try to do from time to timeto share with some interesting,
(53:26):
you know, whether it be sightings, pictures,news, Whatever it might be.
So,
Megan, what do you think?
Anything you want to add?
Speaker A (53:36):
I would be interested to know if mineral point has, like, a weird makeup of the
land.
Like, I just want to know what makes us a
hotbed.
Speaker C (53:45):
Yeah, weird.
Like ley lines or something like that.
Speaker A (53:48):
Yeah, I don't know.
I'll have to look into that.
Speaker B (53:51):
So really, really quickly.
If you look into that, they said the lead
mines, the lead and the composition of rockskind of are a magnet.
Speaker C (54:00):
Interesting.
Speaker A (54:01):
See, that could be a theory.
Speaker C (54:03):
Yeah, one.
Speaker B (54:04):
One thing.
Just really quickly, I'm going to put on my
geeky hat.
My tinfoil hat.
Really quick.
Speaker A (54:09):
Nerd.
Speaker B (54:10):
You live near, like, those huge power lines, you know, with the big steel
frames.
And if.
If your house is near there,
There's a ton of paranormal activity in thosehomes and in those areas because the ghosts
supposedly draw energy from the Interesting.
(54:31):
Yeah. So that's something we can talk about,too.
That's one topic I would love to talk about,like, how do ghosts originate, how to get
their power, and how does this happen?
Something we can talk about for a futuretopic.
So what do you think, Brooke?Anything you like to add?
Speaker C (54:50):
Not really.
Not really.
I just think that this is such a.
I just love the driftless area in general.
I think, like, the whole, like, even down to,
like, galena, Illinois.
I would love to talk about that area soon
because that has a lot of spooky paranormalstuff going on, too.
Like, the.
The whole driftless area, to me, is just like,
it's so cool.
It's very secluded.
It's very, like.
It just has a very interesting, interesting
(55:12):
feel.
Like wherever you are in that area, it just.
There's, like a specific energy that you kindof feel that I think, like, lends itself to
all this, like, paranormal stuff.
So I think it's fine.
I think we'll end up talking about that areaquite a bit in future episodes and coming back
to it.
So.
Speaker B (55:30):
So thank you again, Parasconis.
We love your support.
And, you know, again, we can have an Instagrampage and possibly TikTok, right, ladies?
Speaker C (55:42):
Yes. Yes. Possibly not.
Not immediately.
I just.
I literally, like, made the Instagram account,
like, just now.
So it exists.
There's nothing on it yet.
Speaker B (55:56):
Yeah, we will have different things for Megan and Brooke and they'll drag me into
it even though I don't have.
So we'll talk about shows coming up.
We'll put some great pictures out.
There will be some great sightings,
maybe some videos if we can do that.
Either way,
make sure you check us out.
And again, like, we always end every show.
(56:17):
Tell you ghost,
we said hi.
Have a great week, everybody.
We'll talk to you later.
Thank you.
Speaker C (56:25):
See ya.
Bye, Ra.
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