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June 8, 2024 57 mins

Fresh Start With Dr David - Season 3 - Episode 8 - Be Your Own Peace - Embracing Peace and Purpose: A Conversation with Phoenix Sohl

 

Welcome to another enlightening episode of the ​F​resh Start ​with Dr. David Podcast! In today's special episode, Dr. David is joined by the vibrant and inspiring Phoenix Sohl. Following the insightful discussion on grief, loss, and bereavement in the previous episode, this one dives deep into the essence of self-love, self-care, and finding peace within ourselves. Phoenix Sohl, a returning guest who previously captivated listeners with a two-part series on self-love, is back to introduce her new workbook, "Be Your Own Peace." This episode explores the journey of creating balance, the power of reflection, and living with intention. Phoenix shares personal anecdotes and profound insights on how her workbook can transform lives by helping individuals slow down, embrace gratitude, and become their own source of peace and power. Join Dr. David and Phoenix as they unpack the principles of self-care, accountability, and building valuable relationships. Discover how "Be Your Own Peace" can guide you through a 21-day journey to a more intentional and abundant life. This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking to reconnect with their true self and cultivate inner peace. Don't miss out on this transformative conversation. Tune in, take notes, and get ready to embark on a journey to be your own peace.

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(00:00):
Good afternoon, this is Dr. David back with the Dr. David with Breast Start Podcast.
I'm so excited about this episode. As you may or may not know,
there was an earlier episode this week that you definitely don't want to miss out on.
It was all about grief, loss, and bereavement.
I had a very special guest, Gary Scott, on and we talked about the concept of

(00:21):
grief and loss and how to deal with it and things like that.
So definitely check out the most recent episode. I believe that's season three, episode number seven.
It definitely will help you because we all have a sense of loss,
regardless of the source, whether it's from a person or circumstance or ourselves
or a million other things.
And because of that, we're doing a very special episode today with a very special guest.

(00:49):
And her name is Phoenix Soul. Hey, what's going on?
Hey, welcome back. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me.
Absolutely. You have such great energy. and this this
episode truly is a gift it's a it's a it's an
extra special episode i had not planned it but it
it came from the universe and i'm
really really excited about this so definitely take some notes get online get

(01:15):
ready to pull up amazon and check this out but phoenix as you may or may not
know has been a prior guest on the show she was a guest i believe not last year
but but maybe the year before.
For sure. So it's been a minute. We did a two-part series on self-love and self-care.
And it got a great, huge reception. I think it got more, probably more watches

(01:38):
than any other episode that I had done up until that point.
And a lot of people listen to it over and over and they feel like it really helps them.
Amazing. So thank you so much for that. Yes, absolutely. People love that episode.
And I found myself re-listening to it too because you can never love yourself enough.
And you have to remind yourself in a world old that wants to take that love
away to give it back and replenish it.

(01:59):
Just like you would your refrigerator or your pantry or the gasoline in your
car or anything else or the water in your body.
So definitely if you haven't done so definitely check out the two part series
from season two with myself and Phoenix about self love and self care,
because if you don't care and love yourself, nobody else will do it for you.
So with that, I'm so excited to see and announce that Phoenix has created a.

(02:26):
Perfection in a book. It's a workbook. I love the concept of workbooks because,
a lot of people, it's not overwhelming.
It doesn't feel like something insurmountable. It's not something that you have
to dedicate three hours in one big thing to.
You can use it day in and day out for five minutes.
And with that, I'd love to announce that Phoenix has come out with her workbook

(02:49):
called Be Your Own Peace by Phoenix Soul. Yay.
So I'm so excited. I recently chatted with Phoenix about the workbook and I
remember when she was coming up with the title and with the cover and I was
so impressed with the cover. I love flowers.

(03:12):
If you, If you look at my posts on Facebook, if I post a motivational quote,
if I can find one of the flowers I do, I think flowers represent life and the
continuation of living and growth.
I love the lotus. I just think it's beautiful.
And my favorite color has been blue for years. And the color design of her book is just perfection.

(03:36):
So with that, Phoenix, tell us about this book, Be Your Own Piece.
Ah, well, you know, it honestly was an idea and a channeling,
you know, and literally I sat down for a period of time and it all just came together so easily.

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In a time in my life when there was so much going on on the outward that I literally
like had to be my own piece.
And I think that that's the magic of this workbook is that we live in a world that is so fast.
Information is fast. Food is fast.

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Relationships are fast. Everything is so fast. So it's like,
how do I slow things down?
How do I slow down my mind? How do I, you know, heal?
How do I become my own peace? And you hear that often too, you know,
in relationships or a lot of these relationship podcasts, be my peace,

(04:39):
be my peace. Nobody's going to be your peace.
Nobody's going to, you know, let's just be honest. Nobody's going to give you anything like that.
The universe is going to bestow gifts upon you, right? However,
the universe, God, whatever you believe in, helps those that help themselves.
And other people don't have the ability to give you something that you don't have.
And that they probably don't have anyway. Exactly.

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So the workbook is really about mirrors and life as a mirror and how people
show up, you know, is based on how you treat yourself, how you love yourself.
Self, how situations, you know, come forth.
It's based on how you're thinking and the emotion and the energy that you're

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putting into these things.
So it really asks us to take more accountability for ourselves,
for our lives, for our happiness and be very intentional.
And I'm super proud of it. I've done it myself.
I've done it with my community. And just to hear the feedback of people saying,
you know what, getting up every morning and it doesn't take long to create some

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good habits. 20 minutes.
I say 20 to 30 minutes in the morning, don't get up and grab the phone.
Stop for a second, do 10 minutes of just breathing or 10 minutes of meditation.
10 minutes of writing, 10 minutes of reading.
You've got 30 minutes of power that you've given to yourself before you step

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out in this world that's going to demand so much of you.
And so that's what this is about. It's about, okay, what am I grateful for?
Because we have so many blessings, especially being in the US,
we have so many blessings.
Are we really taking those blessings for granted? Are we saying thank you?
And that opens the door for other things to come in.

(06:35):
How am I feeling? What is my word of the day? What is my theme of the day?
And then also the prompts.
You know, it's a, you know, you read one aspect and then it asks you some mirror
questions, you know? So it's just good stuff.
Good stuff. I love that. Yeah. I love all those things.

(06:55):
So I'm going to, let's start unpacking some of this because this is really insightful.
And the thing that I like about it is the concept of balance.
When I look at your book and when you showed it to me the other day,
one of the first words, calm, popped in my mind. Definitely calm.

(07:16):
Peace, because it's in the title.
Accountability, even though it was very subtle, popped in my mind.
But the biggest thing that probably popped in my mind was the concept of balance.
Be your own peace sounds like the creation of balance. And one of the things
that I sense from you and sense from this is like it's a balance between being

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deep and being simple both at the same time.
And to me, that spells brilliance and resilience.
When you think of something that's deep, it's not superficial.
And when you think about something that's simple, it's not overcomplicated or
overdone. And so I love that balance between something that's simple,

(08:00):
but deep at the same time.
So let's unpack some of this. Okay. So some of the things from what you just
shared, one of the things, one of the purposes of it was in order to slow things down.
The concept of mirrors, which means looking at something from a different vantage
point or looking at yourself showing up or how you show up in the world,

(08:21):
how you treat yourself and how it's important to treat yourself well first,
which should hopefully allow you to treat the world well, right?
The concept of thinking and reflecting the concept of love and embrace the concept of emotion,
like the concept of accountability and responsibility, taking charge of how

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and why you show up, living by intention,
the concept of gratitude and being grateful for the blessings that we have.
The concept that we're granted things. You should recognize that.
And then taking each day at a time and kind of like the book,

(09:05):
prompting you, but not forcing you to do things.
So I love that. So let's start with the concept. Let's start with slowing things down.
Okay. So, and everything you said was spot on about how everything is fast these
days. And I think, you know, I guess the first thing that popped in my mind
is there was a movie that came out a few years ago.

(09:27):
It was called Fast Food. I think it was called Fast Food Nation.
And it was about this guy, I believe, if I'm right, who basically was commenting
about the quickening or the fastening of American culture. And he was talking
specifically about McDonald's.
And it was about this guy who decided for 30 days to subsist off nothing but McDonald's.

(09:50):
In the end, he ended up almost having a heart attack just from eating McDonald's. It was awful.
I mean, it was called Fast Food Nation.
And like you said, a big part of everything today is fast, quick, easy, and instant.
Everybody wants instant stuff, instant gratification, instant stuff.
So, to me, I love the concept of slowing things down because we already have

(10:15):
way too many characters and figures and circumstances that speed things up.
Tell me about the concept of slowing things down.
Whenever I think of things in terms of speed and movement, I think about the theory of relativity.
And if you think about it, you know, envision yourself as a child in the backseat of a car,

(10:36):
you know, and if we're driving and I'm looking out of the window and I'm that
child, I can follow a tree from where I am to where I can no longer see.
And the speed is not that fast.
However, if I'm not focused on that tree and we're just zooming by,

(10:59):
things are going to just slide by me.
So that is so indicative of perspective in that, what am I focused on?
On. And, you know, I have the power to slow things down because time is relative
and it's a construct that we've created.

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But if we understand that this is simply a tool and I have the power to decide
how this is going to energetically feel, I have the power to slow it down.
And so I think that if we start to look at life in that way,
and everything is so time measured, right?

(11:42):
When you think of fast, think of movement, it's time sensitive.
However, again, it's a relative concept. Relativity. So I'm going to breathe.
I'm going to take a moment. I'm going to really be present with you.
I'm going to look into your eyes. I'm going to be very intentional.
And one of my favorite things that I read a while back was speaking about the,

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the happiest people live through their senses. Mm hmm.
Taste the taste. They see the picture.
They listen to every aspect of the song. And it's like, that's present moment.
They touch the textures that feel soft or feel smooth.

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And if we can get back to the primitive, simple, basic aspects of life,
then we have the power to manipulate time.
But that just involves being present and being intentional.
And you spoke about simplicity, the, the most beautiful, most powerful.

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I just believe like the simpler it is,
the easier it is to grasp the, you know, the, the, the, the greater it is to
love, embrace, you know, all of it.
So it's very simple, but also kind of complex, but it involves stepping away

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and then just being willing to gather a different perspective.
Well, it sounds like be your own peace allows you to be present in your own life. For sure.
Right? For sure. I love that. Because one thing that I've learned from you,
you know, either we're in anxiety and we're living, you know,
in the future or we're in depression.

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We're living in the past. So the present moment is where the joy lives and where
the intentionality is and the creativity is.
We can't be anywhere other than right now.
So what are we doing here?
And that brings us to the next thing I was going to ask you about,
which I think is a perfect segue is the concept of a mirror.

(13:59):
The concept of mirrors is a deep one, a really deep one.
And people don't realize sometimes how deep it is, because even Freud,
Sigmund Freud, the father of psychiatry, talked about the mirror principle,
about insight and about context and about looking at yourself in the mirror
and objectivity, subjective versus objective, things like that.

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And the concept that I kind of like about that, which I think goes right along
with the concept that we just talked about, which is the relativity of time
and slowing things down and being present and tasting and sensing life,
is that a mirror shows you who you are right there, right there in reality.

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Reality it's not an old photo of you it's not what you intend to look like in
the future it's not what you used to look like it's not who you were it's you
in the flesh right then and there tell me about that concept about the concept
of mirrors and seeing ourselves and things like that that's a part of being your own piece.

(15:02):
It's your source of power because in that sense, you're no longer a victim to
life, to circumstances, to situations. Okay.
And I feel that's so empowering and liberating and challenging in the same token. Yes.
Right? Right. Because if you're not a victim and, you know, you're showing me

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who I am, then I've got to take responsibility for my actions and I can make change.
Yes. I can create change. Yes. However, if I'm just subject to what happens
out here in the world, I'm constantly being thrown around and that gives me
no power to create something different.
So I love the concept of the mirror because in relationships,

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if I'm not happy, the way something is showing up or the way someone is showing
up, the only power that I have is me.
And if I can reframe, you know, the entire thing there and look at, okay,
that's me, then I can completely transform the situation when it comes back

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around again, because it will.
True. You know, we don't pass the test. We don't pass the test until we pass the test.
And then you graduate and you move forward in life. So if things are cyclically
happening and it's this repetitive thing, it's like, I'm the common denominator here.
Got it. Check. Let me make some changes. Check. You know, super, super powerful.

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I love that. And what that kind of reminds me of, it's funny how all this stuff
comes full circle, is the concept of mirrors. When I think about mirrors.
Like I said, I think about seeing something in the now, in the present, as it really is.
Not as we want to see it, or not as we wish to see it, or not as it was in the past.

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And I think that's also the same thing you see with things like grief and things like that.
Because if you think about the stages of grief, two of the stages of grief are
acknowledgement and acceptance.
And so I think when you take a look in the mirror, you take a look at the man
in the mirror, the woman in the mirror, etc.

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I think it gives you or allows for the concept of acknowledgement for you to
acknowledge what is, whether you like it or not, this is what it is.
And that's the predecessor to acceptance.
And that's, that's, that's big boy, big girl stuff.
Acceptance. Huge. Because it's accountability. Yes. You know,

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and it's saying like, this is what I did.
Yep. And then that also fosters more authentic, more connective relationships.
When you can genuinely come to somebody after having a look at yourself and
saying, hey, this is what I did.
My apologies. I'm not perfect, but I'm here.

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And I think that's a key aspect that's missing in a lot of our relationships
now is people just not willing to just look at it for what it is and say,
oh, that's the part that I play.
Yeah. And I apologize for that.
And we can move forward. And that doesn't mean that we have to move forward together.

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Right. But at least there's, you know, compassion and humanity at what's what's
the word that I want to say? as a possibility.
Right? And learning. And learning. And learning. Learning from our mistake, gaining experience.
Right. Becoming better. We don't have to transition or move from relationships

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in such conflict anymore.
That's a choice. So it's like, you know what?
Even though we may not decide to move forward together, this is the role that
I played and this is what I see.
And I apologize And I wish you well on the journey.
And that is just as healing as anything.
Absolutely. And the funny thing about it is that is actually not to,

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I guess it's kind of a pun, reflected in your book cover because there's a mirror
image of the lotus on your book cover. It's gorgeous.
Oh, wow. I mean, honestly, people should get this book just for the cover.
If you put this cover on your dining room table or on your living room table or whatever,

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I promise you, you will gain some peace and some stillness and some positive,
calming energy and some serenity just by looking at the cover.
Honestly, I love that cover.
And that brings us kind of to the next thing. So, you know, taking a look in
the mirror allows us to acknowledge the present in reality instead of living

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somewhere else in an illusion. And it also allows us to accept.
When we accept things, that allows us to take accountability and responsibility,
like you said. That allows us to show up.
And that was the next thing that you brought up about the book,
about it allowing you to show up. Tell me about that. Okay.
I'll use a personal story. I believe it's day 17. And I just opened up. Oh, wow.

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So this one is about day 17 is about attracting valuable relationships. Right.
And so the prompt is thinking of your current or previous friends or partners.
Where are they in their life? So we ask you to, you know, write about that.
And usually with these prompts, which is pretty cool, like something,

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someone, certain situations come to mind, right?
So you're locked in there. The next one is how was the emotional connection when you met?
So we're talking about being or reflecting.
Reflecting, yeah. This is who I was when we met. Yes.
But someone like me is a continuous evolver, right? Right.
So I know that the people that I surround myself with kind of have to have that

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same resonance because otherwise, you know, in six months, I may be a completely different person.
I'm just going to be honest. Right. Your sales will be.
They will have replaced. Exactly. So you're a different person every six months
anyway. Exactly. Wow. I love that.
So and so the next question is are or were there areas that you feel are lacking

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within your relationship and what is being mirrored back to you?
So this was powerful for me because what came forward is I've been back in Atlanta
for about two years and I am a community person.
And so I'm always thinking about building. Right.
One of the, you know, readings or something that I got spoke about me being

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a master builder. And so I'm like, okay, you know, I see you're building,
I'm building, how can we collaborate?
How can we, you know, pool our resources, gather together?
That's just the way that my mind, you know, thinks and has thought about things,
you know, coming into this new city, right?

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And say, or coming back to the city, because it's not new to me. And so, you know...
I'll just answer the question. How was the emotional resonance?
I mean, how was the emotional connection when you met?
And I said, there was a lot of resonance because we were all in building stages,
navigating identity, using our collective resources and capital,

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doing our best to become.
The resonance was you help me, I help you.
And sometimes the resonance was in adversity to the journey itself.
So like you've been through things. Oh man, I experienced that too.
That can be trauma bond in some ways. Right.
And so what was being mirrored back to me and I'll just read it.

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It says the areas that I'm no longer resonating with is the building energy
That would imply that mastery isn't present.
It almost embraces it, but I'm good on that. I know exactly who I am. I know what I'm doing.
I know why I'm doing it. I don't need other people's resources or intellectual

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or spiritual capital to stand.
I'm sovereign in my being. So I no longer resonate with that energy.
It's no longer attractive to me.
Be in spaces where others are not masters and fully sovereign empires on their own. Wow.
So that's huge because it's like now any collaborations, any connections that

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I have, there's an acceptance within myself.
I'm not building. I'm a master. I have a whole empire over here.
You have a whole empire over there and it's amazing.
And I can learn things from you and I can see what you're doing.
And if we choose to decide to sit in council at the table and unify our kingdoms

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in some way, form or fashion, that's how we'll do it.
And that's such a different energy. No, absolutely.
So I've always been a word person. I've always been a vocabulary person.
I've always been very verbal and always gravitate towards words.
And I was listening to, when you arrived, I was listening to a podcast that

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I did with somebody about the soul and what the soul is and how the soul is
different from the spirit and things like that.
And we were talking about words and certain words, just I gravitate towards certain words.
One of my favorite words right now is the word build, build,
build, build. And just, you know, and we use that word all the time.

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But when you really think about building, you're taking something that is not and making it is.
You're bringing something into reality. And that makes sense because that allows you to show up.
You're building what shows up, which is what we started talking about.
The next thing that you mentioned was, and this brings us kind of back full

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circle to the two-part series that we did before on self-love.
And self-care is how you treat yourself. Let's chat about that.
How do you think Be Your Own Peace helped you treat yourself in a better way?
I know that it helped me become more gentle with myself.

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We live in this world that is so exterior and driven in that regard.
And so we can often think that because we exfoliate, that's self-love.
Superficial. And, you know, because our, you know, the car that we drive,

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we clean the inside and that's taking care of things, you know.
And it's really about how do you speak to yourself when it's quiet, right?
How do you parent yourself?

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How do you nurture yourself? You know, these are things that we're not inherently taught as children.
You know, and that's something that I want to teach my children is like,
how are you taking care of yourself today?
What nourished you today?

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What made you feel good from inside today?
How's your self-talk? today because, you know, and that goes back to being present.
So I really think that this concept of self-love is, is becoming your own here
and, and becoming more gentle, more compassionate, more understanding with yourself.

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Okay. Yeah. Well, we're, we're willing to, you know, drive things forward.
Okay. You need to get up. You need to make things happen. Sure. That's one aspect of,
But the other aspect is nurture and empathy.
Love that. Love that. Gratitude, empathy, all those values.

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And that's another thing that I got when I look at the cover of your book and
when I think about Be Your Own Peace is getting back to basic values. Oh, my God.
And basic principles. So I have a show called Balancing the Scales and we'll
be releasing it soon. Congratulations.
Thank you. And one of the, the last episodes with my, with my co-host,

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we talked about teaching children to create friendships based on values. Yes.
And that keeps things, that puts things in completely different perspective.
And I think we have to really begin thinking about that because in the social

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media land that we live in, it's like, oh my God, I like you. You like me.
Let's like is just thrown around.
And yeah, like it's cool. I may like you today, but guess what?
I may not like you tomorrow.
So when I don't like you, do we value the same things?

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Like are there things that you care about and genuinely what I care about.
And values keep you together. Chemistry does not.
So I think it's important to one, identify what's important to me.
And then when you know what's important to you, then you attract and you make

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decisions as to what type of connections with others you have in your life,
because we share a resonance of foundation.
Not just what's before us right now, because that could change. Sure.
And again, looking at this gorgeous cover of this book, it makes me think about

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the individual petals of that lotus and how each one of those represents a different value.
I love that. The next thing that we talked about or that you brought up was
the concept of thinking, which we kind of talked about looking in the mirror.
I really do think that insightful thought begins with reflection,

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looking in the mirror, and it begins with observation too.
So if you can't observe yourself, then all your observations of other people
are going to be flawed too.
The other, the next thing that you brought up was the concept of love and embrace.
And I love, I love that too. Not to use the word again, but I do love that because
I think that one of the things that a lot of people have kind of recognized.

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And I hate to bring it back to like, to the COVID-19 pandemic and things like that.
But I think one positive thing about the pandemic is I think it's to some people
shown us what's really important and what isn't.
So that's one of the lessons that I think that people really should learn from
COVID is what we have, our blessings, and our values too.

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When it comes to though, love, embrace and emotion and things like that.
But I do think a lot of people would come into a period where things are advancing
so quickly and everything has become fast that we don't focus on love.
Because in my opinion, love isn't fast.
At least I don't think it is. When I think about the speed of love,

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I think of something that's slow and nurturing and basting and stewing and like
a soup or a stew that's brewing.
Growing that's kind of what i think about when i rich when i
think about love and also when i think about embrace and
things like that in terms of being your

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own piece to me that kind of implies that you've got to relearn or you've got
to learn to love yourself would you agree with that a thousand percent yeah
and so that brings up the question i you hear so many people say i love myself But, you know,
I think a lot of people don't really think about it. So what is loving yourself?

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And I think it goes back to some of what you just said earlier,
just a minute ago, about how you speak and how you talk to yourself, how you treat yourself.
That's kind of what I think about love. I think when I, to me,
love isn't just a word or a thing. It's an action. It's a verb.
Yes. It's how you treat something.
Love is how you treat something and especially how you treat yourself and how

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you treat other people in terms of be your own piece.
Tell me just a little bit about how it teaches you to love yourself and what
that is like and how that brings peace.
You know, the 21 days walks you through self-reflection.
And I think that that is the that is a very good first step.

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To awareness and awareness is the first step to change.
You can't change what you don't know exists.
Yes. And so it is allowing you to reframe how you move,

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how you think, you know, the things that you're putting forward into the world
so that you can apply it to other areas.
It's a, it's a, it's a portal that opens you up to doing more work. It never stops. Right.
So in that respect, self-love is one of those things that's continuously evolving.

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You know, but like you said, it's a slow burn, you know?
And so it just starts with starting i
love that and it being slow and
it being intentional and then how you
do anything is how you do everything right sure start that
up then you start thinking oh you know this has got you to thinking about some

(33:35):
of the relationships that you've had that near where you are oh i wasn't fully
taking care of myself this actually there's a self-care versus self-love chapter in there.
So it's like, okay, I've been, I've been caring for myself, but what if I use

(33:56):
my self-care practices as.
Tools for self-love. So I'm going to go and I'm going to get this massage with
the intention of releasing whatever density has been in my body and pain in
my body because I love myself and I'm ready to let go.
So it all connects, but we were speaking about this yesterday.

(34:22):
Yesterday there's this very she's super
advanced you know mother of
holistic wellness right and
a friend of mine who has kind of begun her journey is like I'm reading her book
great amazing however sometimes when we begin a journey like we have to really

(34:46):
look at okay where am I what am I doing because that's going to actually change
your whole life right now.
You know, like a master that's been doing this for 60 plus years.
You know what I mean? So in that conversation, I digress, but in that conversation,
I spoke of the power of practicality and like, just being honest with where

(35:09):
we are. I love practical living.
My ascendant is in Virgo. So I'm very much so like, okay, that's cool.
You know, I'm lofty, right? I have vision, but let's make this real.
Because if right now I'm going to McDonald's every other day,
I may not just, you know, be vegan on Friday.

(35:31):
Let's keep it real. Let's start somewhere. Let's start somewhere.
And it doesn't have to be the biggest jump in the whole wide world.
Absolutely. It can just be small. I can just be, you know what?
I'm only going to eat in McDonald's yeah absolutely.
That's a huge win. And then you start to celebrate yourself and you feel good about yourself.

(35:54):
And then you start setting other goals. And eventually you don't even want it
because you've invested in, you know, eating at the house.
And you don't feel good when you go back to McDonald's anymore.
Your awareness has expanded and you realize that that's not even what I wanted
or was nurturing me anyway.
But let's start where we are.

(36:15):
Yeah. And let's build through these baby steps that like the word that you keep
continue to use is they build resilience.
And like that's the power of like previous generations.
And I feel like why they were able to hold on to things in ways that I'm a millennial

(36:37):
in ways that millennials and generations. And we don't really understand because
everything came so quick.
Always, always had a phone. I've never not had a phone. I've never not had a
computer. I've never not had.
But if I have to go into the kitchen, I have to make the brownies myself.
I'm going to have a very different appreciation for what went into that.

(37:01):
And I'm going to have a different association with it. So let's get back to
some practical things that really work for humanity.
And I think we are, and I'll say this in conclusion to that question,
the only, everyone talks about like, oh, AI, you know, how is AI going to,

(37:24):
I love AI. I'm not confronting.
Chad GTP is a good friend of mine, you know, and I think that it's advancing
our culture in many ways. Yes.
I do believe that what is going to differentiate as we move forward,
the human race is authenticity.

(37:46):
Because AI can automate every single one of your skill sets, right?
AI is going to be able to take over skill set. What AI can't do is take human
connection, human authenticity, human interaction.

(38:08):
It can't replicate that. So the winners are going to be people that are truly,
bless you, that are truly connected and connect to people's hearts,
connect to people's emotions in ways that a computer never could.

(38:28):
But that's going to require you to get primitive. As much as we're going to
advance, as much as we have to, you know, go back to the things that work on
a very, very simple level.
And we're seeing it now. We're seeing people getting back to having gardens
in their yard. You know, we're seeing people getting back to just certain things

(38:54):
that we used to do as human beings.
And that's what's going to differentiate the winners from those that feel that,
oh, I've been taking, your skill sets can't define you anymore.
You can't hide behind the mask of what your mind can create.
You're going to have to be human and you're going to have to be emotionally

(39:18):
intelligent and able to connect and build community and build empire.
You know, and one of the big things that caught my attention in what you just
said is kind of the difference,
and I'm always talking about this, is part of the difference between being a

(39:39):
consumer in this world and being a builder. Yeah.
So many things. And there have been tons of podcasts about this topic.
Tons of people have talked about it. People way smarter than me.
And they talk about the difference between a system that seems to be trying
to create consumers who consume everything.
And another word for that is spenders. We live in a world that's trying to get

(40:03):
you to spend every penny on something you supposedly need to be a professional consumer.
But like you said, we need to get back to being builders, not consumers.
Because when you get stuck as a consumer, what are you building?
Nothing. So as soon as you run out of stuff to spend, currency, you have nothing left.

(40:24):
Exactly. But some of my favorite teachers right now speak about us living in a creator economy.
And that is, again, going back to that is the differentiation between those
that will win and those that will be in limbo.
The creators versus the consumers. Exactly.

(40:45):
We've got to continuously create.
You've got to. And that's a human aspect. We are infinitely creative.
And creativity is not just about drawing and painting.
It's about, oh, I have an idea and I take this idea and I put my energy into it.
And then I create a prototype. And the next thing you know, I am providing a

(41:06):
solution to problems within my community.
And we have to begin to think like that. Get off of the phone for a second. Cut it off.
And what am I putting out into the world that's going to influence,
that's going to create revenue, that's going to generate for myself,

(41:29):
my family, and those around me?
Yeah. So that brings me to the next thing that you brought up is the concept
of living with intention.
And so one of the things that I love about that, about your book and the 21
day system is that it's like 21 steps.
You know just like you've got you know 12 steps you've got 21 steps and I think

(41:52):
that because we live in such a consumer driven.

(42:16):
Build things. Builders, I think, create the world that we live in.
But at the end of the day, we all live a life.
And I think that we should have some choice about the life that we live.
And that brings about the concept of intention.
So I love the idea of living with intention.
And I think that coming up with a simplified system, a way that people can start

(42:41):
to live intentionally 21 days is a good, a really good way to start. Yeah.
I agree. I agree. And you know, what, what has become of this is interesting. Like I created this.
However, I have two courses that were created prior to this.
Really? Yeah. What were they?
I. Courses that you created. So you have courses too.

(43:05):
Oh, wow. I have to relaunch them. You know, one is becoming your next level self.
And then one is, you know, know primarily like
targeted for women and it's called the glow up next level
self and glow up and and it's it's interesting because
they are continuations of this but a lot deeper you know with a few more steps

(43:28):
so and this is a good start yes journaling is great becoming more self-aware
is great and that's where it all begins and when you're ready to move forward and deepen in the
work, then there's tools that are available to you to continue to evolve, expand.
Cool. You know. The next thing that you brought up was, and then we'll start

(43:51):
closing out, is where the concepts that I love of gratitude and grateful.
And one of my new phrases, I doubt that I'm the one who created this phrase,
but it just rolls off the tongue.
And as I mentioned earlier, I love words. And so gratitude is one of my favorite
words because I think gratitude allows for grace. For sure.

(44:12):
I think gratitude allows for grace. And I think gratitude grants humanity because
it allows us to make mistakes without shame.
Yeah. So I always say that, you know, having a good or a great attitude will
lead you to gratitude and a higher altitude. gratitude.

(44:34):
I truly believe that. Poetic? Yeah.
And I try to practice, I promise, I try to practice gratitude every day.
Every day when I'm commuting to work, I think about what I've been granted and
what I've been given because everything that I have, I have not earned.
I've earned some of it, but I haven't earned it all.
And so instead of looking at things from a place of loss, which I talked about

(44:58):
on the previous podcast episode with Gary Scott, instead of looking at things
about what I don't have and what I've lost, I think about what I've been given and what I have, right?
Because if you think about what you lost, you're always living in the past because
you lost something in the past. And you're in lack.
Right. So you're in a state of lack.
And so tell us about how Be Your Own Peace helps to grant and bring out gratitude and being grateful.

(45:31):
Okay. Well, every page has four pages. Okay. Right? Oh, okay. Yeah. Four and four.
Exactly. So the first page is, you know, the conversation of the day, let's say that, right?
Uh-huh. And so this is day two. That's a reframe on trauma, right?
Then you have your journal prompt, questions that come from that.

(45:52):
But boom, you got a blank page after that
where you can continue you and just just kind of do your thing
but your last page asks like what
am i grateful for and by the way once again
your handwriting is incredible i've
told you that before i know your handwriting is like magic i mean i don't know

(46:12):
how you do that you need to come up with with everybody says i need to create
you need to you need to create a font you need to create a font you need to
come Come up with a line of cards, greeting cards.
Your handwriting is just amazing.
It looks like a mix of Arabic and calligraphy. It's just gorgeous.

(46:34):
It's so funny because it's a mixture of my mom and dad's writing.
It is absolutely gorgeous. Thank you so much.
But yeah, I just ask, what am I grateful for? What's my word of the day?
What's my mood? What was your word for that day? Abundance.
Love it. Love it.
Abundance, acceptance, acknowledgement, accountability. Love those eight words.

(46:58):
Abundance is one of my favorites.
Mine too. And then I created an affirmation for the day. I am the peace of the
present moment. And I just scripted that.
Nice. And then the focus, you know, so every day has a page that asks you to
tap into where you are, what you're thinking, thinking what you're grateful for.
And I think that that is the gratitude is a, is a, another simple thing.

(47:24):
Very profound concept. Just like Grace.
Grace. I remember when somebody first, a friend of mine, and gosh, I'll say his name.
His name is Henry. He's an internal medicine physician.
I actually just had a conversation with him. I hadn't talked with him in about
30 years. And I met him when I was in college in Little Rock, Arkansas.

(47:46):
And Henry's a physician. He lives on both coasts now. He lives in California.
He has a residence in California and also in New York.
But I remember a long time ago when it was his mother's birthday or something like that.
And I think I asked him, like, tell me about your mother. And the word that he came up with is grace.

(48:09):
And I remember, even though I'd heard that word and I'd heard the word graceful
before, I'd never gotten the energy, the sense until he said it.
And that's one of my favorite words is the word grace.
It just. I love it too. It embodies so much richness. It does.
And it's so soft. It's a balanced word.

(48:31):
Yes. It's so soft, but yet so powerful. But when I think of grace, grace is allowing.
And that's what gratitude is. is because if we think I'm a, I'm a word person too.
Right. And I'm a word energy person.
So every word has an energy to it.

(48:54):
And so when, whenever I say the word grace, it's just flow.
And when there's flow, then there's no constriction in the energy I'm giving
out and I'm taking it and it's beautiful, you know? And so gratitude is that like, thank you.
You know, gratitude Gratitude has more of a, from an energetic space,

(49:17):
in my perspective, it's more outward.
Gratitude is an attitude. Yes. It's a, you know, like it's an outward gratitude.
I'm grateful. Like that's an outward thing.
But grace is soul.
Grace is soul. It is. And it's in its flow.
But when, again, going back to energy, like what you give is what you receive.

(49:39):
So if I'm giving gratitude, I'm giving, you know, like, because we're mirrors,
we're mirrors, then it's coming back to me.
It's reflected back. It's reflected back to me in infinite ways.
And I think that that is, gratitude is one of those very simple,

(50:00):
the word that comes to mind for me, for those that are experiencing,
that are not yet fully experiencing their manifestations.
That's usually like one of the key things that are missing.
And the funny thing about it is if you take, I'm a word person like you are,
if you take, like, for instance, the word grateful or the word grace and combine

(50:22):
it with attitude, then you get gratitude.
Yeah, like magic. Exactly. Grace plus attitude is gratitude. It's gratitude.
And that brings us to the last point that I want to bring up,
and then we'll close out and talk about where people can find the book and organize
parties and those kind of things is the concept of taking each day one day at a time.

(50:45):
And which is what I love, again, about the system, that it's just such a simple,
practical, brilliant system.
And, you know, it's something where you look at something or you look at things
or you create a system in 21 days.
So tell me just a little bit about since that's about, you know,
that's what the book is about, being your own piece and doing that in a 21 day journey.

(51:08):
Tell me about how that 21 day journey was for you when you went through it,
because you went through it yourself, right?
I did. So tell me about that 21 day journey, about the difference between who
you were at day one and who you were at day 21.
It was so transformative because one, it gave me structure.

(51:29):
It gave my day purpose.
I started off, you know, again, going back to that first 30 minutes, that intentionality.
It it's like seeped into
every aspect of my life and when
I think about how I felt in

(51:50):
that 21 days it was a vast sense of openness because I had a prompt that asked
me to create a word for the day and my word being abundance guess what was showing
up guess what was revealing itself guess what I saw on billboards,
you know, like it opened me up so much.

(52:12):
And I think that how we begin, my voice coach always said that how you begin
a song is going to set the tone.
So you want to begin, yeah, you want to begin grounded.
You want to begin, you know, soft and focused and because that's going to,
that's going to enhance your relationship with, with it. And so that's going to inform your day. Yes.

(52:37):
And with that, and some of them have...
Know, questions about how things ended, like at the end of the day.
And so when you think about the end of the day, you know, some days are more
challenging than others, but you feel this sense of triumph because of how you handle things,

(52:57):
because of the degree of awareness that you had and just that you could sit
there in that moment and reflect and not take anything with you into Into the next.
So it was so profound. It was so transformative. And the fact that I was doing
it with other people and could talk about things,
you know, and even those that, that weren't engaging the journey with me,

(53:22):
I had so much, had so much to share.
And one of the testimonials that I got back from one of the guys that did the book was one day,
there's a prompt in here that speaks of masculine and feminine aspects,
which we all have, right?

(53:43):
And it asks you to look at the positives of some of your feminine figures, right? Right.
And actually look at the negatives of those feminine figures,
actually to look at the positives of the masculine figures that were in your
life and the negatives and to see where that correlates and how you show up

(54:03):
that very day. He did that.
He had a major aha moment. And then he had a very deeply healing conversation with his mother. Nice.
They were able to connect and, and, and understand, like, I do certain things
like this because I saw certain things and you do certain things.

(54:24):
And maybe like, as we move forward, we, we try to do things a little bit differently,
both within our relationship and how we connect with other people.
What? That's generational healing.
So, you know, to hear that, like, and to understand that because I'm doing it too.

(54:44):
And I'm able to see like, oh, you know, he may be like that,
you know, you think about your dad or something. He may be like that, but he gave me so much.
Yes. You can change your associations.
You can change your stories. You can change the narrative and it's in changing
the narrative that we, the next chapter, the next book that we write is going

(55:08):
to be the bestseller because there's been growth. There's been evolution.
You know, there's been transformation in who we are as people.
So. Absolutely. Especially, especially if you're willing to live and risk intention.
And so that's why I love this because be your own peace to me is about all those

(55:31):
other words we said, but it's about living your life intentionally.
And, and, you know, the other thing that it, it sounds like to me too,
is that be your own peace is also about being your own purpose, being your own peace.
Because if you're at peace, you can get into synchronization with your real purpose in life.

(55:52):
So I love this. Guys, go out and get be your own peace. Order your copy on Amazon.
Share it with your friends. If you know somebody who's struggling with life
direction and what what they should do next.
They need peace in their lives. Go out and get it as a gift for them.
Honestly, that's the best gift you can give somebody is abundance and empowerment,

(56:14):
and getting to know the real person.
Real damn because there's so
many things like you mentioned earlier that take us away from who we are.
We need things that channel us back to our true selves. And I think Be Your
Own Peace can do that for a lot of people. So definitely go out there.
Tell us about where people can find Be Your Own Peace. Absolutely.
It is currently on Amazon Marketplace. So yeah, you guys type in Be Your Own

(56:39):
Peace by Phoenix Soul and go ahead and grab your copy from there.
Absolutely. And And I'm telling you guys, I have the, you know,
you're beautiful and I've been staring at you the whole time,
but this book is beautiful as well.
And I'm telling you guys, just this book cover will bring some peace and serenity
and some stillness to your life. I promise you it will.

(57:00):
I promise you it will. So go out and get Be Your Own Peace. It's by Phoenix Soul.
This book is wisdom. It will help you build.
It will help you get to the next level. It will help you to reboot, to restart,
to reset, to manifest, to become more abundant, to become more intentional,
to start to accept and acknowledge some things that maybe you've been struggling with.

(57:25):
This book will take you to the next level. So go out and get Be Your Own Peace
by Phoenix Soul. Thank you so much for telling me about it.
Thank you so much for having me on the show. We always have great energy.
And you guys don't forget, be your own piece.
Thanks so much. Take care. Bye.
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