March 5, 2025 • 28 mins
In this episode of the Green Tea Party, Katie dives into the intersection of Catholic social teaching and contemporary environmental issues, particularly regarding the Trump administration's policies.
With a unique blend of personal reflection and critical analysis, she explores the disconnect between the values upheld by the Catholic Church and the actions taken by political leaders.
Katie discusses key principles such as the dignity of the human person, the preferential option for the poor, and the importance of caring for creation, highlighting how recent executive orders clash with these foundational tenets. She emphasizes the need for young conservatives to engage in climate advocacy and encourages listeners to voice their concerns to their representatives. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation that challenges the status quo and advocates for a more sustainable future.
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>> Katie (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental
problems. My name is Katie Zachreski, and today I'll
guide you through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them all, uh, while remaining faithful to my conservative
values. It'll be a good time. It's a party,
so grab your mugs and we'll pour the tea.
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And then there was one. Don't
panic. Zach and Hannah are indeed alive. Hannah is in the
middle of a very grueling job. In fact, she will
probably become a revolving contributor on
the show, as opposed to a host, so that it fits in a little bit better with her
schedule. And we had told you last year that we're working on bringing in
a panel of, uh, rotating contributors. I don't want to tip
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my hand as to who some of those folks are, but, um, hopefully
you'll get to hear from them here in a couple of months instead of just hearing me talk
about them. Additionally, Zach is doing well. He
is currently on vacation, enjoying a
nice long weekend. And I figured, okay, well, I'll hop in and
I'll record today, which is great for me, not always
great for you, because it means that I get to decide what we
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talk about today. And I
think that one of the things that I've been grappling with, obviously I'm
Catholic. I got a journalism
background. And, um, a statistic that's been really interesting
to me lately. I've seen it multiple times in the last few
months, is that roughly 56% of
Catholics voted for Trump. Um, and
this might not be all that surprising on the surface. A lot of
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folks who are traditionally more conservative also tend to
be Catholic. But what surprised me the more that I began
working for the church, is that some of
the most devout Catholics that I know
lean, maybe center left, if they have any political
leaning at all. To be honest. Uh, the church itself is
apolitical, obviously, because the church is not just located in the
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US But a lot of Catholics and
Christians alike don't know that
Catholics have a social doctrine
that is supposed to guide their moral
judgments. You know, it kind of like. I guess
it's like the seven pillars of Islam. Are there seven pillars in Islam? Maybe
that's something I should Google. I don't know. I'm not a Muslim. Let me see. Seven
pillars of, uh, Islam.
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My history teacher will be very pleased to know then
I retained something. So, yeah, it's kind of like it. It guides
our social teaching, but obviously it's not
exclusive to Catholics or Catholic theology.
In fact, it's kind of like the Bushido. I would say that these
are just pretty good core tenants to have at the center of your
morality as a whole. But, uh, part of me has been
thinking lately, okay, a lot of the
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tenets of Catholic social teaching
don't exactly add up with a lot of the
executive orders and directives that have
been issued here recently from the Trump
administration. In fact, a lot of these directives
might not always be good for the common good, like
it or not, or solidarity, or the dignity of the human
person, or the poor, or the economy, or
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justice, or caring for creation. Um, and
before anybody goes, okay, liberal green
Tea Party radio has been ruined. Calm down. No,
it's not. I still didn't write, um,
but I think that it's worth maybe stacking up some of these
today, because I've often gotten on this soapbox for
time and eternal about
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how I feel like.
And I'm not saying this for all Trump supporters, because guess what? In
2016, I was one. Um, I was a poster child of a young
Trump supporter, and I'm not anymore.
And a lot of that is because I've been able to see the generational
gap and Trump supporters. And what I mean by
that is
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I have blue collar, working
class, hard working parents.
They don't have a lot. They've never had a lot. And
I see that they get 10 billion emails from Donald
Trump every single day saying, hey, liberal, if
you're a patriot, you'll donate $20 to
the build the Wall fund while mom
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and dad consider themselves patriots.
And if they're sharper than the average bear, in
my opinion, and they're sending Donald Trump 20 bucks every
now and then when they really don't have 20 bucks to send
because eggs are $9 a carton,
that's a problem because I've got a feeling they're not the
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only ones. So. But
when you, when you sit back and look at this from a bigger perspective. My parents are
not dumb people.
They've been devout Catholics their whole life.
Although I didn't ask them, I could put my salary on the
fact that they both voted for Trump.
So where's the disconnect? Maybe it's that a lot of
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Catholics don't know about Catholic social teaching. I did not
know until I was in high school. And even
then I would say that I didn't know as much
as I should have about them until very
recently. And this is after a very Catholic education
my whole life. And again, non, um, Catholics don't feel
left out. Here I'm about to jump into these tenants, and you'll be
able to see that they are not strictly Catholic theological
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tenets. These are just, as I said, good pieces of life
advice. But I think that they're worth going through
in order to evaluate, you know,
how does the things that Trump
say stand with the religious
institution that's been around for a little over 2,000 years
or with, you know, our Christian faith principles as a
whole? So, again, I'm not judging anybody. This is not a
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judgment zone. And I will. You know what? I want to say a
disclaimer before I get into this, because I feel like this group goes
very unseen. And I would know, because I was part of this group.
I'm not a Trump fan. I'm not a Trump
supporter. I was at one point.
If you've chosen to listen to this show and you're a Trump
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supporter, I am very, very thankful for you,
because it shows that you have a willingness
and an openness to
at least hearing out the other side. And
I think that willingness to hear out the other side is so
incredibly rare these days. Um, not
just from the far right, not just from Trump
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supporters, but from Biden supporters, from folks on the left,
from folks on the far left. We've been conditioned to
not hear each other out and to think that we are exclusively
110% right. So, first of all, if you
fall in the Trump supporter category, I want to thank you for listening to the
show, because you've already demonstrated that you're an
outlier in terms of the general public. So thank you.
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Secondly, I don't ever want Trump supporters to feel
like I'm constantly dogging on them and
making them the butt of my jokes. No more than anybody else,
at least, because, again, I remember when I
was a Trump supporter, it felt like every single thing
everybody said was a dig at me. And calling
me stupid and making digs at me did not make me change.
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Hearing me out and giving me an opportunity to make my
case and explore and evaluate
made me change. So, again,
you might not like the guy, or you might like the guy. I don't know.
I don't care. I'm never focused on the presidents
because I've been able to pass pro life legislation in
a blue administration, and I've been able to pass
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environmental legislation in a red administration.
The president changes every four years, and he does
not matter. What matters is the big picture.
So I never try to get too lost in one politician now
that I'm a little bit older and I know A little bit better. Um,
and my political resume wouldn't fit on a post it note
anymore. Um, and again, not that you have to have
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a huge and oppressive political resume to formulate
these opinions. If anything, shame on me that I had to do this for
years before I developed common sense.
But I just don't ever want you to feel like you're attacked while
listening to the show. Even if we don't agree with you, we're very
thankful to have you here. Now, now that I've gotten that out of
the way, as an environmentalist,
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there are things that Trump has done. I wouldn't call
Trump an environmentalist. Okay, let's just put it like that. This is
an environmental show. I would not call Trump an
environmentalist. So, and unfortunately as,
ah, somebody who has been both working class,
I say both. I'm about to list multiple things. As somebody who's
been working class, as somebody who's been blue collar,
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as somebody who's been poor, as somebody who's been a Trump
supporter, as somebody who's been an environmentalist, as somebody
who is Catholic, I am a little alarmed by the
overlap of some of these things because we know
that negative environmental repercussions have the
strongest impact on the poor and the vulnerable,
unfortunately, and, and a lot of folks on the left don't like to
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admit this. There is a large portion of low
income, blue collar, working class
folks who support Trump because they believe that
he's going to do what's best for them economically.
I'm concerned that some of these things are not
what is best for these families economically.
I am also concerned that in the long term what happens
to the environment because of decisions made by this administration.
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And let's admit it, previous administrations, nobody has really
touted climate change the way that they should. I am afraid
that the repercussions of these things in the short and
the long term are going to overwhelmingly and
disproportionately affect the low and middle
income classes, the working class, the blue collar
families, folks who grew up just like me for
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reasons that they cannot understand or control.
That is my ultimate concern. And
when people ask me what my ultimate concern is as an
environmentalist, it's not, I want my
grandkids to see a panda. I don't give a shit if I ever see a panda
in my whole life or if the next four generations that come from me
do. That doesn't matter. I want my kids to be able to live
somewhere where their house isn't getting sucked up by a tornado every
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other Decade, if not every other year, and where they've got good,
tangible jobs that make sense and they can step outside without needing to
put a hazmat suit on. That is my long term
goal in being an environmentalist.
So now that we've gotten all that out of the way,
let's talk about Catholic social teaching. So
Catholic social teaching is the doctrine that has been developed by
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the Catholic Church. And for those of you who are newer to the show, I
am a devout Polish Catholic here in central Arkansas,
which means that I am a square peg in a round hole.
Welcome. So Catholic social teaching is the doctrine developed by the Catholic
Church. It addresses social, um, economic,
political, environmental issues in light of
teachings about Jesus Christ and the Church's
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understanding of things like human dignity,
justice, and the common good. At its core,
Catholic social teaching is based on the belief that every
person is created in the image of God and has inherent dignity,
which is very tough for either political party to reckon with
these days. And this idea should be respected and upheld in
all social and economic systems.
So it emphasizes both the rights of the individual and the
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collective responsibility to care for one another, the
environment, and for generations to come.
Okay, so let's go through what the
different pillars of Catholic social teaching are. I say pillars. I don't
know that they're technically pillars, but here
is Catholic social teaching. Dignity of the human
person, rights and responsibilities,
preferential option for the poor, common
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good, solidarity,
subsidiarity, care for creation,
economic justice, peace, and the pursuit of
justice. So I'm going to go through each one of these because I know some of these just
sound like buzzwords. Uh, and to prove to you
that it's not all one big nothing burger, I'm going to go through each
of these. So, dignity of the
human person. Every human person is created in the image of
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God and possesses inherent dignity. This is the
foundational. The foundational
principle of Catholic social teaching, and it asserts
that all people deserve respect, protection, and
the opportunity to live a full, flourishing
life. Number two, rights and
responsibilities. Rights are claims on the
basic goods that every person needs to live and thrive and
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include the right to a safe environment. Responsibilities
are obligations to protect and promote these rights.
Rights and responsibilities are inextricably connected.
And those therefore, who claim their own rights yet
altogether forget or neglect to carry out their respective
duties are people who build with one hand and destroy
with the other. Number three is
preferential option for the poor. So this principle
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emphasizes that we must prioritize the needs of the poor and the
marginalized in our social and economic systems.
So that means the most vulnerable to the violation of
dignity and rights. It doesn't mean that the rich or
others in society are not important, but it challenges us
to give special care to those who are most in need and
whose voices are most overlooked. Number four, common
good. And again, these are in. I don't think they're in any particular
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order. I'm not a canon lawyer, which is
a lawyer within the Church who knows all of the canon
law, because I guess when you're around for 2,000 years, you need
those. Catholic Church, please sponsor me. So, number four,
common good. The common good. Obviously, you've heard
this phrase before. It refers to conditions that protect
human dignity by safeguarding rights, fulfilling
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duties, empowering all persons to flourish.
It emphasizes social conditions that benefit everyone,
particularly the poor and vulnerable. And you'll hear that phrase a lot.
Poor and vulnerable. It's usually uplifted as the most
important goal for all religious
theological action. For the most part, your emphasis needs to be
on the poor and on the vulnerable. It calls for. For a
society in which people live in harmony, peace and
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mutual respect. Again, very hard in our very
political world to carry
out. Number five, solidarity.
Solidarity is a commitment to the common good based on the
reality that we are all responsible for each other. So
it's the idea that we are all part of one human family, regardless
of nationality, ethnicity or economic status. Again, this
is a hard one for both political parties to swallow these days. I'm not going
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to lie. Solidarity calls for compassion, for
action in support of the poor, the oppressed and the
marginalized.
Number seven, care for creation. Ringing DING Is
this ringing any bells for you? This principle,
particularly emphasized in Pope Francis's 2015
encyclical Laudato Si, which we've talked a little bit
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about on this show before and I might talk about coming up soon,
calls for responsible stewardship of the Earth. It
stresses the importance of protecting the environment, of
recognizing the interconnectedness of all life. And this
is part of the Church's teaching that we have a moral duty
to care for the planet as it is a gift from God
Himself that sustains the life that he created. So
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that's. That's a pretty big deal. Number eight, economic
justice. Catholic social teaching calls for just
economic systems that respect the dignity
of the human person and ensure that all people have access to
the resources they need to live a dignified life. This
includes fair wages, access to work, and the elimination
of unjust poverty. Economic systems should
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serve the human person, not the other way around. The Church
rejects the notion that a free market automatically produces
justice. You'll probably hear
that that last one does not always jive with
conservative thinking. And I think that we've even talked about
this on this show before about some of the naive
fallacies and conservative economic
thinking. And I know that I talk about this a lot. And don't get me wrong,
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I'm Ronald Reagan's number one fan. But
you'll always hear me say that a lot of his economic
teachings and theories were
naive. He always wanted to do the right
thing. But if you're a wealthy millionaire,
billionaire, or even trillionaire, you probably didn't get
there by doing the right thing. And therefore you don't have the right thing at the
core of your belief system, like maybe Ronald Reagan did.
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Um, so while I do have free market
and capitalist, uh, economic
ideals, I do think that there need to be laws,
safety nets in place to make sure that
people do not exploit
these economic systems. And there are plenty of people who do. And I'm
not going to act like they're not. I'm also not going to
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act like there aren't people in my political party or preference
that willingly pave the way for these people to continue to do
these things. That is not at all right. And I do not, not at
all, condone it. That's also why I don't identify as a
Republican and I identify more generally as a
conservative because I like the ideals and not the people
who label themselves as being part of the ideological group
that I'm in. Um, so we could get into this.
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It would be a 10 hour episode, but I'm not going to do that.
And then finally, the peace and the pursuit
of justice. The, uh, church teaches that justice
is the protection of rights and the fulfillment of responsibilities, and
that peace is the result of justice. True
peace is not just the absence of conflict,
but the presence of right relationships, equity and
fairness. This includes working towards the resolution of
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conflicts and addressing the root causes of violence, such as
poverty and inequality. Okay, so now
that we got that moral foundation out of the way, I, um, think that it's
worth diving a little deeper into some of the executive
orders and directives directly impacting the
environment explicitly that have come from this administration
so far. And then we can see how they stack up
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with this Catholic social teaching and even just this Christian
moral standard. So, executive order
14162. I kind of felt like I was in Star wars
when I started doing that. Execute Order 66,
withdraw from the Paris Agreement. And that's what the what?
That order did, uh, not Order 66, but Executive
Order 14162 withdrew us from the
Paris Agreement. This came in January of this year. I'm sorry, I'll
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never do another Star wars impression ever again. This order
withdrawn. Withdrawn. Great work. This order
withdrew the US from the Paris Agreement, with which, as you probably
know, is a global effort of multiple countries working
to mitigate climate change and limit global temperature
rise. And, um, the Catholic Church has consistently supported
the goals of the Paris Agreement as part of caring for creation.
Pope Francis 2015 encyclical Laudato
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Si, which emphasizes the need to care for our common
home, argues that climate change is an urgent issue that
requires collective action across borders.
Okay, so how does all this clash with Catholic social
teaching? Well, firstly, care for creation Laudato, uh,
SI urges the global community to take action on climate
change, particularly to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions and protect the planet for future generations. So
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by withdrawing from the Paris Agreement, this order undermines
those efforts and negates international cooperation to protect the
environment. Oh, very bad. Do not pass go,
do not collect 200. But this also clashes with some other
core components of Catholic social teaching as well. For
example, rights and responsibilities. Pope St. John Paul
II asserted the right to a safe environment, which the
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state has responsibility of ensuring. Also
solidarity in the common good. Catholic social
teaching stresses solidarity with the poor who are
disproportionately affected by climate change, even though they
contribute the least to its causes. The US
Withdrawal potentially harms poorer nations that
are already struggling with climate related disasters.
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So then this wasn't exactly an executive order, but it was
a national emergency. And, uh, a national energy
emergency issued In January of 2025, it,
um, declared a national energy emergency which
prioritized fossil fuel infrastructure development and
suspending certain environmental reviews in order to fast track
fossil fuel projects. It was designed to increase
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domestic fossil fuel production and reduce
regulatory barriers to projects like
pipelines or projects with pipelines. Pardon
me. So how does this clash with Catholic social teaching?
Again, integral ecology, which is a critical part
of caring for creation. A Catholic social teaching's
view of integral ecology emphasizes that
human development must be in harmony with nature.
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Expanding fossil fuel infrastructure and ignoring environmental
reviews can lead to environmental degradation, which
obviously is going to harm, uh, both the
environment and marginalized communities. But this also
violates preferential option for the poor. The, uh,
expansion of fossil fuel projects often harms the
poor, especially indigenous communities and people living in
areas that are most vulnerable to environmental degradation,
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such as those living near pipelines and refineries.
These communities typically bear the brunt of environmental
destruction and pollution. Francis as a whole has called for
an energy transition towards renewable sources that are
sustainable, just and clean. He even put his money where his mouth is
and set up a solar farm just outside Vatican City
to power the Vatican. The Vatican is run, if I'm
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correct, by solar energy. So he's
demonstrated himself that this can be done. So by
prioritizing fossil fuels. This order contradicts
the church's emphasis on moving towards cleaner energy
sources, not just for the sake of the environment, but for
the sake of people living in it.
So Executive Order 14161 was the
Rescission of environmental justice initiatives. This was
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issued in January, uh, of 2025. And I know that justice
word when it has a modifier in front of it is a little icky to
conservatives, but bear with me here, we'll survive. Um,
this executive order rescinds several key
environmental justice initiatives that were implemented during the
administration. These initiatives focused on addressing the
disproportionate impact of environmental harm on marginalized
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communities, including people of color and low income
populations. So let's talk about how that clashes with,
with Catholic social teaching. Probably not too hard to figure out how,
eh? So obviously, right out of
the gate, preferential option for the poor and
vulnerable. Catholic social teaching
prioritizes the needs of the poor and the marginalized. So
rescinding these environmental justice initiatives ultimately
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undermine efforts to protect communities that are
disproportionately affected by harm.
Also, solidarity. Catholic social teaching calls for
solidarity with communities that suffer from environmental
degradation. And so by rolling back these initiatives, the government
is neglecting the duty to protect these vulnerable
populations. And obviously this is not at all a
surprise. Dignity of the human person. Catholic social
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teaching affirms that all human beings have inherent
dignity. All right, so let's talk about some of the
directives that have been issued by this administration.
Um, so there was the General Services Administration
shutting down electric vehicle charging stations in February
of 2025. So, uh, the decision to
shut down these, um, federal EV chargers goes
against the growing global shift towards electric vehicles as cleaner
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alternatives to fossil fuels and marks a rollback of
federal support for electric transportation. So
again, let's talk a little bit about the clash with Catholic
social teaching, uh, by cutting support for
electric vehicle infrastructure.
Am I tweaking? It sounds like there's somebody in my
house. I don't care. Let him kill
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me.
So by cutting support for environmental
infrastructure or environmental vehicles. Pardon me.
Oh my God. What is going on?
Sorry, Peterson. Please pardon. That was A bit
rough. Ironic that I would say that while talking about this,
eh? Uh, there is no hope for me.
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So related to Care for creation and sustainable development
by cutting support for electric vehicle infrastructure, the
US Government is not, is not promoting more sustainable
transportation options. So Catholic social teaching
calls for economic development that supports the well being
of both humanity and the environment. Please pardon my screaming
cat in the background. And moving away from fossil fuels
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and investing in electric vehicles is a key part of
sustainable development. Also, this plays into the common
good. Laudato Si, that papal encyclical that we
mentioned earlier, which is just a papal letter for the most
part, a letter that the Pope writes to the people and to the
Church, stresses the importance of technology being used for the
common good, with a focus on reducing pollution and promoting
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sustainable practices. This action undermines
those goals by reducing infrastructure for more eco friendly
transportation. Of course, as we know, in February this
administration also issued the expansion of
offcore of offshore oil drilling.
This directive involved expanding offshore drilling
for oil and gas, which directly contributes to climate
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change and environmental destruction. The expansion of
fossil fuel exploration and extraction can result in oil
spills and habitat destruction, which affects
marine life and coastal communities.
So how does it clash with Catholic social teaching? Principally by
caring for creation, or in this case not Pope, uh,
Francis. Teaching on environmental protection stresses the need
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to reduce fossil fuel dependence and protect
ecosystems. Expanding oil drilling threatens marine
ecosystems which are critical to biodiversity and the health of the
planet. Uh, this also affects solidarity with the poor and
vulnerable. Communities that depend on healthy oceans for
their livelihoods, especially fishing communities and
indigenous peoples are disproportionately impacted by oil
drilling. Catholic social teaching calls for the protection
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of those most vulnerable to environmental harm. Again, we keep
seeing these same points are the same ones that are being
brought up. And all of these executive orders and directives,
again we keep hearing the same things, not to mention sustainable
development. The Church advocates for sustainable
economic models that respect the Earth's natural
limits. So expanding fossil fuel extraction
contradicts this vision and promotes unsustainable
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growth. So all of these executive orders and directives,
and many of the ones that aren't explicitly environmental,
and that subsequently I did not include here,
clash with Catholic social teaching. They
undermine key principles like caring for creation,
solidarity, preferential option for the poor,
sustainable development. Pope, uh,
Francis, uh, and his Laudato SI
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encyclical in 2015 really cracked to open the
world of environmental care within the Church.
Caring for creation. And yet I think less than
33% of Catholics have heard of it. So clearly
there's still work to be done because this has been out for a decade.
Allow, uh, doctors see stresses that environmental
degradation and climate change disproportionately affect
the poorest and the most vulnerable communities amongst
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us, which makes it church's clear stance
for the need for environmental justice. So
obviously if this is impacting these interest
communities and these groups, then the church's stance is
clear. They have to take action and help these groups. The
rollback of environmental protections and the
prioritization of, uh, fossil fuels and the failure
to address climate change directly conflict
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with Catholic social teaching. So obviously, you
know, the, these tenets are good
moral guidelines to have throughout life. So it's always a
little difficult for me to see people that I've always looked up to, people
who identify as devout Catholics, defending an
administration that does these things. And your
arguments might be, yeah, well this is good for us economically
in the short term. Well, Catholic social teaching
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doesn't deal with the short term versus the long term. It deals
with what is right versus what is wrong. So just a little food for
thought as we move into the coming weeks. I'm sure there will be more
things for me to talk about, unfortunately related to
directives and executive orders, things that
don't have the best benefit to the environment, the best impact on the
environment. So I will get into that as that
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presents itself, as time allows, and we will just go from
there. So again, action
steps. I'm always going to tell you my favorite action step
and I'm going to keep beating it like a dead horse until you go and do
it. Write your member of Congress or call your member of
Congress or somehow contact your member of Congress
and let them know that you're a young conservative who is concerned
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about climate change, the economy and the world around them.
I have been sending letters to my members of Congress like
crazy lately, so I highly recommend you do the
same. All my senators and all my members of Congress, all my
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Thanks, Peterson.
Hello, and welcome to the Green Tea Party, where we
discuss conservative solutions to environmental
problems. My name is Katie Zachreski, and today I'll
guide you through complex issues and provide strategies to address
them all, uh, while remaining faithful to my conservative
values. It'll be a good time. It's a party,
so grab your mugs and we'll pour the tea.
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And then there was one. Don't
panic. Zach and Hannah are indeed alive. Hannah is in the
middle of a very grueling job. In fact, she will
probably become a revolving contributor on
the show, as opposed to a host, so that it fits in a little bit better with her
schedule. And we had told you last year that we're working on bringing in
a panel of, uh, rotating contributors. I don't want to tip
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my hand as to who some of those folks are, but, um, hopefully
you'll get to hear from them here in a couple of months instead of just hearing me talk
about them. Additionally, Zach is doing well. He
is currently on vacation, enjoying a
nice long weekend. And I figured, okay, well, I'll hop in and
I'll record today, which is great for me, not always
great for you, because it means that I get to decide what we
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talk about today. And I
think that one of the things that I've been grappling with, obviously I'm
Catholic. I got a journalism
background. And, um, a statistic that's been really interesting
to me lately. I've seen it multiple times in the last few
months, is that roughly 56% of
Catholics voted for Trump. Um, and
this might not be all that surprising on the surface. A lot of
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folks who are traditionally more conservative also tend to
be Catholic. But what surprised me the more that I began
working for the church, is that some of
the most devout Catholics that I know
lean, maybe center left, if they have any political
leaning at all. To be honest. Uh, the church itself is
apolitical, obviously, because the church is not just located in the
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US But a lot of Catholics and
Christians alike don't know that
Catholics have a social doctrine
that is supposed to guide their moral
judgments. You know, it kind of like. I guess
it's like the seven pillars of Islam. Are there seven pillars in Islam? Maybe
that's something I should Google. I don't know. I'm not a Muslim. Let me see. Seven
pillars of, uh, Islam.
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My history teacher will be very pleased to know then
I retained something. So, yeah, it's kind of like it. It guides
our social teaching, but obviously it's not
exclusive to Catholics or Catholic theology.
In fact, it's kind of like the Bushido. I would say that these
are just pretty good core tenants to have at the center of your
morality as a whole. But, uh, part of me has been
thinking lately, okay, a lot of the
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tenets of Catholic social teaching
don't exactly add up with a lot of the
executive orders and directives that have
been issued here recently from the Trump
administration. In fact, a lot of these directives
might not always be good for the common good, like
it or not, or solidarity, or the dignity of the human
person, or the poor, or the economy, or
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justice, or caring for creation. Um, and
before anybody goes, okay, liberal green
Tea Party radio has been ruined. Calm down. No,
it's not. I still didn't write, um,
but I think that it's worth maybe stacking up some of these
today, because I've often gotten on this soapbox for
time and eternal about
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how I feel like.
And I'm not saying this for all Trump supporters, because guess what? In
2016, I was one. Um, I was a poster child of a young
Trump supporter, and I'm not anymore.
And a lot of that is because I've been able to see the generational
gap and Trump supporters. And what I mean by
that is
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I have blue collar, working
class, hard working parents.
They don't have a lot. They've never had a lot. And
I see that they get 10 billion emails from Donald
Trump every single day saying, hey, liberal, if
you're a patriot, you'll donate $20 to
the build the Wall fund while mom
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and dad consider themselves patriots.
And if they're sharper than the average bear, in
my opinion, and they're sending Donald Trump 20 bucks every
now and then when they really don't have 20 bucks to send
because eggs are $9 a carton,
that's a problem because I've got a feeling they're not the
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only ones. So. But
when you, when you sit back and look at this from a bigger perspective. My parents are
not dumb people.
They've been devout Catholics their whole life.
Although I didn't ask them, I could put my salary on the
fact that they both voted for Trump.
So where's the disconnect? Maybe it's that a lot of
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Catholics don't know about Catholic social teaching. I did not
know until I was in high school. And even
then I would say that I didn't know as much
as I should have about them until very
recently. And this is after a very Catholic education
my whole life. And again, non, um, Catholics don't feel
left out. Here I'm about to jump into these tenants, and you'll be
able to see that they are not strictly Catholic theological
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tenets. These are just, as I said, good pieces of life
advice. But I think that they're worth going through
in order to evaluate, you know,
how does the things that Trump
say stand with the religious
institution that's been around for a little over 2,000 years
or with, you know, our Christian faith principles as a
whole? So, again, I'm not judging anybody. This is not a
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judgment zone. And I will. You know what? I want to say a
disclaimer before I get into this, because I feel like this group goes
very unseen. And I would know, because I was part of this group.
I'm not a Trump fan. I'm not a Trump
supporter. I was at one point.
If you've chosen to listen to this show and you're a Trump
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supporter, I am very, very thankful for you,
because it shows that you have a willingness
and an openness to
at least hearing out the other side. And
I think that willingness to hear out the other side is so
incredibly rare these days. Um, not
just from the far right, not just from Trump
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supporters, but from Biden supporters, from folks on the left,
from folks on the far left. We've been conditioned to
not hear each other out and to think that we are exclusively
110% right. So, first of all, if you
fall in the Trump supporter category, I want to thank you for listening to the
show, because you've already demonstrated that you're an
outlier in terms of the general public. So thank you.
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Secondly, I don't ever want Trump supporters to feel
like I'm constantly dogging on them and
making them the butt of my jokes. No more than anybody else,
at least, because, again, I remember when I
was a Trump supporter, it felt like every single thing
everybody said was a dig at me. And calling
me stupid and making digs at me did not make me change.
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Hearing me out and giving me an opportunity to make my
case and explore and evaluate
made me change. So, again,
you might not like the guy, or you might like the guy. I don't know.
I don't care. I'm never focused on the presidents
because I've been able to pass pro life legislation in
a blue administration, and I've been able to pass
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environmental legislation in a red administration.
The president changes every four years, and he does
not matter. What matters is the big picture.
So I never try to get too lost in one politician now
that I'm a little bit older and I know A little bit better. Um,
and my political resume wouldn't fit on a post it note
anymore. Um, and again, not that you have to have
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a huge and oppressive political resume to formulate
these opinions. If anything, shame on me that I had to do this for
years before I developed common sense.
But I just don't ever want you to feel like you're attacked while
listening to the show. Even if we don't agree with you, we're very
thankful to have you here. Now, now that I've gotten that out of
the way, as an environmentalist,
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there are things that Trump has done. I wouldn't call
Trump an environmentalist. Okay, let's just put it like that. This is
an environmental show. I would not call Trump an
environmentalist. So, and unfortunately as,
ah, somebody who has been both working class,
I say both. I'm about to list multiple things. As somebody who's
been working class, as somebody who's been blue collar,
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as somebody who's been poor, as somebody who's been a Trump
supporter, as somebody who's been an environmentalist, as somebody
who is Catholic, I am a little alarmed by the
overlap of some of these things because we know
that negative environmental repercussions have the
strongest impact on the poor and the vulnerable,
unfortunately, and, and a lot of folks on the left don't like to
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admit this. There is a large portion of low
income, blue collar, working class
folks who support Trump because they believe that
he's going to do what's best for them economically.
I'm concerned that some of these things are not
what is best for these families economically.
I am also concerned that in the long term what happens
to the environment because of decisions made by this administration.
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And let's admit it, previous administrations, nobody has really
touted climate change the way that they should. I am afraid
that the repercussions of these things in the short and
the long term are going to overwhelmingly and
disproportionately affect the low and middle
income classes, the working class, the blue collar
families, folks who grew up just like me for
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reasons that they cannot understand or control.
That is my ultimate concern. And
when people ask me what my ultimate concern is as an
environmentalist, it's not, I want my
grandkids to see a panda. I don't give a shit if I ever see a panda
in my whole life or if the next four generations that come from me
do. That doesn't matter. I want my kids to be able to live
somewhere where their house isn't getting sucked up by a tornado every
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other Decade, if not every other year, and where they've got good,
tangible jobs that make sense and they can step outside without needing to
put a hazmat suit on. That is my long term
goal in being an environmentalist.
So now that we've gotten all that out of the way,
let's talk about Catholic social teaching. So
Catholic social teaching is the doctrine that has been developed by
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the Catholic Church. And for those of you who are newer to the show, I
am a devout Polish Catholic here in central Arkansas,
which means that I am a square peg in a round hole.
Welcome. So Catholic social teaching is the doctrine developed by the Catholic
Church. It addresses social, um, economic,
political, environmental issues in light of
teachings about Jesus Christ and the Church's
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understanding of things like human dignity,
justice, and the common good. At its core,
Catholic social teaching is based on the belief that every
person is created in the image of God and has inherent dignity,
which is very tough for either political party to reckon with
these days. And this idea should be respected and upheld in
all social and economic systems.
So it emphasizes both the rights of the individual and the
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collective responsibility to care for one another, the
environment, and for generations to come.
Okay, so let's go through what the
different pillars of Catholic social teaching are. I say pillars. I don't
know that they're technically pillars, but here
is Catholic social teaching. Dignity of the human
person, rights and responsibilities,
preferential option for the poor, common
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good, solidarity,
subsidiarity, care for creation,
economic justice, peace, and the pursuit of
justice. So I'm going to go through each one of these because I know some of these just
sound like buzzwords. Uh, and to prove to you
that it's not all one big nothing burger, I'm going to go through each
of these. So, dignity of the
human person. Every human person is created in the image of
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God and possesses inherent dignity. This is the
foundational. The foundational
principle of Catholic social teaching, and it asserts
that all people deserve respect, protection, and
the opportunity to live a full, flourishing
life. Number two, rights and
responsibilities. Rights are claims on the
basic goods that every person needs to live and thrive and
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include the right to a safe environment. Responsibilities
are obligations to protect and promote these rights.
Rights and responsibilities are inextricably connected.
And those therefore, who claim their own rights yet
altogether forget or neglect to carry out their respective
duties are people who build with one hand and destroy
with the other. Number three is
preferential option for the poor. So this principle
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emphasizes that we must prioritize the needs of the poor and the
marginalized in our social and economic systems.
So that means the most vulnerable to the violation of
dignity and rights. It doesn't mean that the rich or
others in society are not important, but it challenges us
to give special care to those who are most in need and
whose voices are most overlooked. Number four, common
good. And again, these are in. I don't think they're in any particular
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order. I'm not a canon lawyer, which is
a lawyer within the Church who knows all of the canon
law, because I guess when you're around for 2,000 years, you need
those. Catholic Church, please sponsor me. So, number four,
common good. The common good. Obviously, you've heard
this phrase before. It refers to conditions that protect
human dignity by safeguarding rights, fulfilling
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duties, empowering all persons to flourish.
It emphasizes social conditions that benefit everyone,
particularly the poor and vulnerable. And you'll hear that phrase a lot.
Poor and vulnerable. It's usually uplifted as the most
important goal for all religious
theological action. For the most part, your emphasis needs to be
on the poor and on the vulnerable. It calls for. For a
society in which people live in harmony, peace and
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mutual respect. Again, very hard in our very
political world to carry
out. Number five, solidarity.
Solidarity is a commitment to the common good based on the
reality that we are all responsible for each other. So
it's the idea that we are all part of one human family, regardless
of nationality, ethnicity or economic status. Again, this
is a hard one for both political parties to swallow these days. I'm not going
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to lie. Solidarity calls for compassion, for
action in support of the poor, the oppressed and the
marginalized.
Number seven, care for creation. Ringing DING Is
this ringing any bells for you? This principle,
particularly emphasized in Pope Francis's 2015
encyclical Laudato Si, which we've talked a little bit
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about on this show before and I might talk about coming up soon,
calls for responsible stewardship of the Earth. It
stresses the importance of protecting the environment, of
recognizing the interconnectedness of all life. And this
is part of the Church's teaching that we have a moral duty
to care for the planet as it is a gift from God
Himself that sustains the life that he created. So
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that's. That's a pretty big deal. Number eight, economic
justice. Catholic social teaching calls for just
economic systems that respect the dignity
of the human person and ensure that all people have access to
the resources they need to live a dignified life. This
includes fair wages, access to work, and the elimination
of unjust poverty. Economic systems should
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serve the human person, not the other way around. The Church
rejects the notion that a free market automatically produces
justice. You'll probably hear
that that last one does not always jive with
conservative thinking. And I think that we've even talked about
this on this show before about some of the naive
fallacies and conservative economic
thinking. And I know that I talk about this a lot. And don't get me wrong,
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I'm Ronald Reagan's number one fan. But
you'll always hear me say that a lot of his economic
teachings and theories were
naive. He always wanted to do the right
thing. But if you're a wealthy millionaire,
billionaire, or even trillionaire, you probably didn't get
there by doing the right thing. And therefore you don't have the right thing at the
core of your belief system, like maybe Ronald Reagan did.
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Um, so while I do have free market
and capitalist, uh, economic
ideals, I do think that there need to be laws,
safety nets in place to make sure that
people do not exploit
these economic systems. And there are plenty of people who do. And I'm
not going to act like they're not. I'm also not going to
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act like there aren't people in my political party or preference
that willingly pave the way for these people to continue to do
these things. That is not at all right. And I do not, not at
all, condone it. That's also why I don't identify as a
Republican and I identify more generally as a
conservative because I like the ideals and not the people
who label themselves as being part of the ideological group
that I'm in. Um, so we could get into this.
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It would be a 10 hour episode, but I'm not going to do that.
And then finally, the peace and the pursuit
of justice. The, uh, church teaches that justice
is the protection of rights and the fulfillment of responsibilities, and
that peace is the result of justice. True
peace is not just the absence of conflict,
but the presence of right relationships, equity and
fairness. This includes working towards the resolution of
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conflicts and addressing the root causes of violence, such as
poverty and inequality. Okay, so now
that we got that moral foundation out of the way, I, um, think that it's
worth diving a little deeper into some of the executive
orders and directives directly impacting the
environment explicitly that have come from this administration
so far. And then we can see how they stack up
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with this Catholic social teaching and even just this Christian
moral standard. So, executive order
14162. I kind of felt like I was in Star wars
when I started doing that. Execute Order 66,
withdraw from the Paris Agreement. And that's what the what?
That order did, uh, not Order 66, but Executive
Order 14162 withdrew us from the
Paris Agreement. This came in January of this year. I'm sorry, I'll
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never do another Star wars impression ever again. This order
withdrawn. Withdrawn. Great work. This order
withdrew the US from the Paris Agreement, with which, as you probably
know, is a global effort of multiple countries working
to mitigate climate change and limit global temperature
rise. And, um, the Catholic Church has consistently supported
the goals of the Paris Agreement as part of caring for creation.
Pope Francis 2015 encyclical Laudato
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Si, which emphasizes the need to care for our common
home, argues that climate change is an urgent issue that
requires collective action across borders.
Okay, so how does all this clash with Catholic social
teaching? Well, firstly, care for creation Laudato, uh,
SI urges the global community to take action on climate
change, particularly to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions and protect the planet for future generations. So
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by withdrawing from the Paris Agreement, this order undermines
those efforts and negates international cooperation to protect the
environment. Oh, very bad. Do not pass go,
do not collect 200. But this also clashes with some other
core components of Catholic social teaching as well. For
example, rights and responsibilities. Pope St. John Paul
II asserted the right to a safe environment, which the
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state has responsibility of ensuring. Also
solidarity in the common good. Catholic social
teaching stresses solidarity with the poor who are
disproportionately affected by climate change, even though they
contribute the least to its causes. The US
Withdrawal potentially harms poorer nations that
are already struggling with climate related disasters.
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So then this wasn't exactly an executive order, but it was
a national emergency. And, uh, a national energy
emergency issued In January of 2025, it,
um, declared a national energy emergency which
prioritized fossil fuel infrastructure development and
suspending certain environmental reviews in order to fast track
fossil fuel projects. It was designed to increase
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domestic fossil fuel production and reduce
regulatory barriers to projects like
pipelines or projects with pipelines. Pardon
me. So how does this clash with Catholic social teaching?
Again, integral ecology, which is a critical part
of caring for creation. A Catholic social teaching's
view of integral ecology emphasizes that
human development must be in harmony with nature.
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Expanding fossil fuel infrastructure and ignoring environmental
reviews can lead to environmental degradation, which
obviously is going to harm, uh, both the
environment and marginalized communities. But this also
violates preferential option for the poor. The, uh,
expansion of fossil fuel projects often harms the
poor, especially indigenous communities and people living in
areas that are most vulnerable to environmental degradation,
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such as those living near pipelines and refineries.
These communities typically bear the brunt of environmental
destruction and pollution. Francis as a whole has called for
an energy transition towards renewable sources that are
sustainable, just and clean. He even put his money where his mouth is
and set up a solar farm just outside Vatican City
to power the Vatican. The Vatican is run, if I'm
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correct, by solar energy. So he's
demonstrated himself that this can be done. So by
prioritizing fossil fuels. This order contradicts
the church's emphasis on moving towards cleaner energy
sources, not just for the sake of the environment, but for
the sake of people living in it.
So Executive Order 14161 was the
Rescission of environmental justice initiatives. This was
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issued in January, uh, of 2025. And I know that justice
word when it has a modifier in front of it is a little icky to
conservatives, but bear with me here, we'll survive. Um,
this executive order rescinds several key
environmental justice initiatives that were implemented during the
administration. These initiatives focused on addressing the
disproportionate impact of environmental harm on marginalized
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communities, including people of color and low income
populations. So let's talk about how that clashes with,
with Catholic social teaching. Probably not too hard to figure out how,
eh? So obviously, right out of
the gate, preferential option for the poor and
vulnerable. Catholic social teaching
prioritizes the needs of the poor and the marginalized. So
rescinding these environmental justice initiatives ultimately
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undermine efforts to protect communities that are
disproportionately affected by harm.
Also, solidarity. Catholic social teaching calls for
solidarity with communities that suffer from environmental
degradation. And so by rolling back these initiatives, the government
is neglecting the duty to protect these vulnerable
populations. And obviously this is not at all a
surprise. Dignity of the human person. Catholic social
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teaching affirms that all human beings have inherent
dignity. All right, so let's talk about some of the
directives that have been issued by this administration.
Um, so there was the General Services Administration
shutting down electric vehicle charging stations in February
of 2025. So, uh, the decision to
shut down these, um, federal EV chargers goes
against the growing global shift towards electric vehicles as cleaner
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alternatives to fossil fuels and marks a rollback of
federal support for electric transportation. So
again, let's talk a little bit about the clash with Catholic
social teaching, uh, by cutting support for
electric vehicle infrastructure.
Am I tweaking? It sounds like there's somebody in my
house. I don't care. Let him kill
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me.
So by cutting support for environmental
infrastructure or environmental vehicles. Pardon me.
Oh my God. What is going on?
Sorry, Peterson. Please pardon. That was A bit
rough. Ironic that I would say that while talking about this,
eh? Uh, there is no hope for me.
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So related to Care for creation and sustainable development
by cutting support for electric vehicle infrastructure, the
US Government is not, is not promoting more sustainable
transportation options. So Catholic social teaching
calls for economic development that supports the well being
of both humanity and the environment. Please pardon my screaming
cat in the background. And moving away from fossil fuels
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and investing in electric vehicles is a key part of
sustainable development. Also, this plays into the common
good. Laudato Si, that papal encyclical that we
mentioned earlier, which is just a papal letter for the most
part, a letter that the Pope writes to the people and to the
Church, stresses the importance of technology being used for the
common good, with a focus on reducing pollution and promoting
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sustainable practices. This action undermines
those goals by reducing infrastructure for more eco friendly
transportation. Of course, as we know, in February this
administration also issued the expansion of
offcore of offshore oil drilling.
This directive involved expanding offshore drilling
for oil and gas, which directly contributes to climate
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change and environmental destruction. The expansion of
fossil fuel exploration and extraction can result in oil
spills and habitat destruction, which affects
marine life and coastal communities.
So how does it clash with Catholic social teaching? Principally by
caring for creation, or in this case not Pope, uh,
Francis. Teaching on environmental protection stresses the need
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to reduce fossil fuel dependence and protect
ecosystems. Expanding oil drilling threatens marine
ecosystems which are critical to biodiversity and the health of the
planet. Uh, this also affects solidarity with the poor and
vulnerable. Communities that depend on healthy oceans for
their livelihoods, especially fishing communities and
indigenous peoples are disproportionately impacted by oil
drilling. Catholic social teaching calls for the protection
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of those most vulnerable to environmental harm. Again, we keep
seeing these same points are the same ones that are being
brought up. And all of these executive orders and directives,
again we keep hearing the same things, not to mention sustainable
development. The Church advocates for sustainable
economic models that respect the Earth's natural
limits. So expanding fossil fuel extraction
contradicts this vision and promotes unsustainable
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growth. So all of these executive orders and directives,
and many of the ones that aren't explicitly environmental,
and that subsequently I did not include here,
clash with Catholic social teaching. They
undermine key principles like caring for creation,
solidarity, preferential option for the poor,
sustainable development. Pope, uh,
Francis, uh, and his Laudato SI
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encyclical in 2015 really cracked to open the
world of environmental care within the Church.
Caring for creation. And yet I think less than
33% of Catholics have heard of it. So clearly
there's still work to be done because this has been out for a decade.
Allow, uh, doctors see stresses that environmental
degradation and climate change disproportionately affect
the poorest and the most vulnerable communities amongst
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us, which makes it church's clear stance
for the need for environmental justice. So
obviously if this is impacting these interest
communities and these groups, then the church's stance is
clear. They have to take action and help these groups. The
rollback of environmental protections and the
prioritization of, uh, fossil fuels and the failure
to address climate change directly conflict
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with Catholic social teaching. So obviously, you
know, the, these tenets are good
moral guidelines to have throughout life. So it's always a
little difficult for me to see people that I've always looked up to, people
who identify as devout Catholics, defending an
administration that does these things. And your
arguments might be, yeah, well this is good for us economically
in the short term. Well, Catholic social teaching
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doesn't deal with the short term versus the long term. It deals
with what is right versus what is wrong. So just a little food for
thought as we move into the coming weeks. I'm sure there will be more
things for me to talk about, unfortunately related to
directives and executive orders, things that
don't have the best benefit to the environment, the best impact on the
environment. So I will get into that as that
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presents itself, as time allows, and we will just go from
there. So again, action
steps. I'm always going to tell you my favorite action step
and I'm going to keep beating it like a dead horse until you go and do
it. Write your member of Congress or call your member of
Congress or somehow contact your member of Congress
and let them know that you're a young conservative who is concerned
(26:54):
about climate change, the economy and the world around them.
I have been sending letters to my members of Congress like
crazy lately, so I highly recommend you do the
same. All my senators and all my members of Congress, all my
representatives, everybody's been hearing from me and not just
at the federal level, but at the state level as
well. So make sure that on the most local
level, from your community in your city
(27:17):
hall to your state level, your governor and your
state legislatures, all the way up to
your senators, your representatives and the
President. Make sure all of your politicians
know exactly what you're thinking. Make them earn that six
figure paycheck.
For you, our listener. Email us with your thoughts.
(27:38):
Our, uh, email is info. Ah, green
teapartyradio.com thank you for
listening to Green Tea Party Radio and a very special thank you to
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If you're interested in getting early access to episodes as well as
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(28:21):
about climate change. And if you want to hear our show
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(28:41):
Thanks, Peterson.
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