January 30, 2023 • 31 mins
✨ The existential questions that no one asks before they tell you to get visible…
Getting visible - either personally or professionally - is an act of courage, yet a lot of the inspirational and motivational quotes and images we see on Instagram and Pinterest don’t explore the nuance and layers of visibility… especially for Black, Indigenous, People of Color, Queer folx, and more.
In episode 02 of I’m lost, so what? Cassandra dives into the nuance and gray areas of what it means to be visible, show up more as yourself in the world, build a personal brand, and the existential questions and considerations to think about before going out there and doing the dang thing.
In this conversation, Cassandra shares
- What to consider when we think about visibility
- Questions to ask yourself as you get visible
- When to know it’s time for you to share your message
If you are building a personal brand or want to position yourself as a thought leader, or need help to get your company or organization more visible - learn how to amplify your message, rally your community, and create inclusive, awesome content with the support of The Quirky Pineapple Studio. Learn more about our services here: https://thequirkypineapple.com/
Connect with Cassandra elsewhere:
- Cassandra’s Personal Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cassandratle/
- The Quirky Pineapple Studio Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/thequirkypineapplestudio/
Additional resources around visibility from The Quirky Pineapple Studio:
- Mindset Blocks holding back BIPOC business owners: https://thequirkypineapple.com/blog/2020/07/08/5-mindset-blocks-stopping-poc-businesses-from-visibility/
- Planning your Content Strategy for more visibility: https://thequirkypineapple.com/blog/2019/05/08/how-to-plan-your-content-strategy-for-more-visibility/
- 5 ways to define your brand personality: https://thequirkypineapple.com/blog/2018/02/28/5-ways-to-define-your-brand-personality/
- Creating a brand messaging framework for your small business: https://thequirkypineapple.com/blog/2021/01/27/how-to-create-a-brand-messaging-framework-for-small-businesses/
- Shiva Roofeh - https://www.shivaroofeh.com/
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And if we are digging deeper, ifwe are not having this conversation
with more people, so like itpisses me off when we're like, oh
yeah, show up more as yourself.
Go big or go home blah, blah, blah.
Like I love all of that, butthen it pisses me off when we
don't stop and think, okay, whatdoes this actually look like?
(00:20):
Hello.
Hello everyone.
I'm Cassandra Le, and you'relistening to I'm Lost, so what?
The podcast exploring betweenbelonging and carving your own path
for all the peeps out there who kindof know what you're doing, but still
question what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, I'm with you.
Hello, hello and welcomeback to the, I'm Lost.
(00:42):
So what?
podcast.
You are tuning in to episode two, whichis all about the existential questions to
consider if you want to be more visible.
I'm your host Cassandra.
And in episode or in theprevious episode, really I didn't
mention what my pronouns are.
So let me clear that up.
My pronouns are she, they, and in today'sepisode, we're gonna get existential.
(01:06):
Yeah, we're just gonna get existential.
I think.
Um, , I wanted to say that we'regonna get existential without getting
existential, but honestly I think thisis, we're just gonna get existential.
So I wanted to talk a little bitabout visibility and in the online
business world, which I move in andwork in, uh, when they talk about
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visibility, they're talking aboutlike, showing up more on social media.
They're talking about sharing yourmessage and they're talking about,
you know, just getting your opinionsout there so that you can get more
people to come to your business.
What I wanna actually talk about today isnot necessarily within the business world.
Or the online business world,although this can definitely be
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applied to your online businessor to your business in general.
Or if you are building a personalbrand or any of that, I think
it can just apply to a human.
But yeah.
So the first thing that I want to kindof like disclaimer is I think, hmm, let
me, let me figure out how to say this.
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On Instagram and in a lot of the thingsthat I see or read about personal
development, let's start there.
A lot of the things that I read andsee, say stuff like be authentic.
Uh, show up authentically, beyou, be more, you show up as
yourself, blah, blah, blah.
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And that stuff I think isvery important and inspiring.
and insightful, but I think there arethings that we have to consider before
we go and tell somebody to literallybe more visible, show up authentically,
uh, show up as yourself, becausethere are a lot of layers to this that
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aren't necessarily talked about, thatI think need to be discussed because
there is nuance to visibility, right?
Like there is nuance to visibility becauseof the privileges that we hold, because
of the spaces that we occupy becauseof areas that we live in the country,
cities, um, homes, like the networksthat we belong to, visibility is really
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different for every single person.
So I wanna just say that gettingvisible can mean lots of things,
like I said before, like this episodecan be applied if you have a small
business, if you are a creator, ifyou want to build your personal brand.
Um, but this can also just meanlike showing more up more as
yourself in the world in general,what we were talking about.
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Speaking up and stepping into leadershiproles at work or within your community
and building your personal brand ifyou are a small business owner or if
you are just somebody who believes thatthey have a strong message to share.
So to give you more background and contextinto why I am diving into visibility,
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well, I've worked with, well, me and mybusiness, The Quirky Pineapple Studio,
we've worked with a hundred plus clients.
Uh, people who are thought leaders, peoplewho want to build their personal brands.
We've worked with companies andbrands basically to help them get
visible because they're alreadydoing some really awesome work.
But they're basically justdoing really awesome work and
then not sharing about it.
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So they want to basically share all ofthe great things that they are doing.
Most of them are black, indigenouspeople of color, and they are also
queer folks or people who have adisability or are neurodivergent.
And I know what it's like to basicallyrun into a lot of mindset blocks
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and fear around getting visible.
And this is the nuance that I wasmentioning previously that I think a
lot of like the Instagram inspiringInstagram photos that we see, or like
these articles or like if you're watchingYouTube videos, sometimes I think the
message of visibility gets really shallow.
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I think that's really kind of just likeblanketed, like yeah, just show up as
yourself or yeah, just be more yourselfor, yes, be more authentic and when we're
consuming this content, yeah, it's great.
And it's like, oh, it builds up thisfire inside of us and like it makes us
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think, yes, I wanna do it, I wanna do it.
But when we start taking action,there are very real things that
come up that basically make usquestion if visibility is worth it,
and also makes us consider, huh?
Am I even okay to get visible?
And I think this is thenuance of it, right?
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Like when you are more visible, youhave to consider your physical safety
because of the identities that you holdor the spaces that you occupy or you
know, the where you live and all ofthese things, like are you physically
safe if you are to become more visible?
And this also takes into account yourprivilege and all of these things.
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Then also one another oneis protecting your privacy.
The more visible you get.
Of course the, the more, um, I don't wannasay curious, but really curious is not
the correct word, I would say the morenosy the world gets into your business.
So how do you protect yourprivacy when you get more visible,
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when you are more visible?
And also the last oneis setting boundaries.
What boundaries are we holding?
Are we keeping, are we settingfor ourselves and the expectations
we have for ourselves and of.
If we get more visible, and I feel likeno Instagram post or um, inspiring,
inspirational, motivational quoteon Instagram or that Pinterest quote
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that you just saved into your boardis really gonna dive into that nuance
because it just can't, like, socialmedia doesn't necessarily give us the
opportunity to get into the nuancedlayers of what visibility actually looks.
And of course if you are online, Imean, a lot of people, at least in
the space that I move in, everybodywants to get visible, right?
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I'm working with like online businessowners, I'm working with thought leaders.
I'm working with personal brands.
I'm working with like, you know, CEOs ofcompanies who want to get more visible.
Uh, but the work behind theclosed doors, is that okay?
When we start to considergetting more visible?
We start kind of hitting these mindsetblocks, we start hitting these fears.
(07:32):
We start thinking, oh, I need toshow up this way because if I'm gonna
be visible, I need to be X, Y, Z.
Or, oh, if I, uh, share too muchinformation, people are gonna think
of me as weak or unprofessional,or, oh, if I am doing X, Y, Z,
I'm totally, oh my gosh, cringe.
Those are all very real things thatmy clients have come to me with.
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But also I see a lot of my friendsgo through when they wanna share
more of their joy or more of theirlaughter, more of their love.
And these are the real things thatI don't think people talk about.
So we're gonna talk aboutthem today because I feel like
they need to be talked about.
So, okay, now that we're talking aboutthese things, I don't necessarily have
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answers because I feel like it dependsa lot on your current situation.
It depends a lot on your privilege,and I just wouldn't be able to be
like, oh yeah, get visible or likepush boundaries or do something.
I think it really takes into accountone, understanding more about yourself
and also more about the support networkthat you have as well as you know,
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are you able to kind of risk certainthings to show up more authentically?
I hate that word by the way, but areyou able to risk other things to show
up more as yourself and those thingscould be, you know, financial security.
It could be, I don'tknow, physical security.
It could be like yourhome, all of these things.
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Do you have a support network that canbasically be there for you if getting
visible causes like a ripple effectwhere you know, something changes and
now you need to look for something else.
Those are things to consider beforegetting visible, but I want to
ask you, or at least share thesethree existential questions, uh,
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to consider when getting visible.
So, these are three questions that Ishare with my clients, but actually
they can be applied to just people.
You don't have to have a business.
You don't need to be like an inspiringthought leader or personal brand.
This could be for us like themulticultural folks or the hyphenated
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folks who feel like they have a story ora message that they want to share, and
they just want to be able to use theirvoice more in their everyday lives.
So these are three existential questionsto consider when getting visible.
So the first one is (09:54):
who am I?
LOLs.
Uh, y'all knew I had to throwthat question in there, right?
Like, who am I?
I asked this question to my clients, but Iwanna ask it to everybody else because you
don't necessarily, again, need to be likethis super pop star or CEO of a company
or have a wild story or whatever it isto have a message to share or want to be
(10:21):
visible like you can be- you can want tobe visible just because you are yourself.
And the first question Ialways ask people is, who am I?
And that also has layers to it, right?
So, your- this question of who am I?
I want you, if you're goingto journal on this, awesome.
If you wanna just think about it, Iwould love for you to think about, okay,
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who are you in regards to your culture?
And when I'm talking culture, thisis something that my client, uh,
Shiva Roofeh, who is a culturalintelligence expert, actually taught me.
Culture is outside of your nation.
And also outside of yourheritage and your ancestry.
So culture could be things like youare a bullet journaler like me, hey!
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Or a you are a Zumba dancer.
Things like that.
So, Think about it like this.
Who are you within your culture?
If you wanna think about nationally,and also your heritage, but then also
other things that you like to do.
So if you are a part of T SwiftFan Club, that would be one.
If you are.
, I don't know, team coffeeall day, every day.
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Or you're like totally amatcha, girly, whatever it is.
That is also culture.
So let's go back.
Who are you in terms of culture,identity, privilege, stories, and
if there are other things as partof just the makeup of who you are.
So these could be experiences,accomplishments, achievements,
all of those things.
Who are you within all of that, and it'snot necessarily the labels that you have.
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So for me, wouldn't necessarilybe like, it could be daughter,
sister, all of those things, but itcan also be other things as well.
Like I love watching movie trailers.
I am a pisces sun.
Those are things that wouldfall into the who am I question.
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So that's number one.
Number two, second question for secondexistential question, uh, to consider
when getting visible (12:22):
what pisses you off?
Let me say that.
What pisses you the fuck off?
Ha ha.
Okay, so with this question, I want toknow what pisses you the fuck off at
work, home, personally, professionally,in your industry, et cetera.
What pisses you off,you can go big with it.
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If you wanna think about like the wholeworld and society and community, you can
go more micro, which is more thinkingabout your personal relationships,
your boundaries, all of those things.
And you go in the middle.
You could do both.
You go micro, macro level, takeit whichever you want, but I just
wanna know what pisses you offand follow up question to that.
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This is not question number three,but this is follow up to number two.
Why does it piss you off?
So personally for me, one thing thatpisses me off is just what I was
talking to you all about before.
These inspirational, motivationalquotes that we see on Instagram and
Pinterest and all of these thingsthat we reshare and we're like,
y'all, gosh, show up more as yourself.
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Like play big, youknow, don't give a shit.
Be bigger, be more.
Like, that's stuff I love readingit, and I also re-share it.
So this is not just like a, ohmy gosh, y'all are doing this
thing and it pisses me off.
No, I do it myself.
I re-share this stuff and itpisses me off, but I still re-share
it because I'm like, oh yeah,give me a boost of energy today.
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Uh, but what pisses me offis the fact that we don't
get the chance to dig deeper.
And if we are digging deeper, we are nothaving this conversation with more people.
So like it pisses me off when we'relike, oh yeah, show up more as yourself.
Go big or go home.
Like I love all of that, butthen it pisses me off when we
don't stop and think, okay, whatdoes this actually look like?
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What do I need to considerto make this a reality?
What do I need to considerif this becomes a reality?
And then I am kind of forcedto change my circumstances.
For example, like being more visible.
I think one time like me deciding tobe more visible and like be really
vocal about my values or about, youknow, advocating for having more
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black, indigenous people of color queerfolks share their message and stories.
I got two hate messages actually recently,maybe like a month and a half, two months
ago, where they came into my email.
One of 'em, it was super long,actually very personalized, so
I'm like, wow, this is great.
But they were really violent.
They were saying things like, you are aterrible person like you are a total twat.
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You are just like a lonelyperson who doesn't care or like,
you know, nobody loves you.
This is why you'realone, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and I think one of themtold me to eat shit and die.
And that I think if I were in like atotally different head space, if I hadn't
worked up to that, I think messages likethat probably would have, like totally
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crushed me thanks to therapy and also likelots of life coaching and like doing a lot
of self-awareness exploration, self-loveexploration and things like that.
Those messages didn't hurt as much,but I think having that conversation
and being like, Hey, if you decide toget visible, it's not that you open
yourself up to it but the world thinksthat you are being more open to it.
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The world as in like people who suck.
Maybe they feel like they'reentitled to like share their
opinions about who you are.
And unfortunately, I don'tknow how to fully change that.
Um, maybe this is what like boundarieswould look like and all of that stuff.
Or like protecting your peas andyour space and like your online space
or even like your physical space.
But that I think is something thatkind of pisses me off where like a
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lot of people say, just show up more.
Be authentic.
Share your story.
People need to hear your story, something.
Your story is unique.
Yes, it is.
And it deserves to be heard.
It deserves to be shared.
But I also want to just makesure, like are we also doing the
work behind the scenes to prepareourselves if something were to.
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I'm not saying, although I feel likesomebody could come at me and be
like, oh, but are you saying likewe have to like, prepare ourselves
for everything that could happen?
Like No.
Um, I don't think you can prepare yourselffor everything that could happen, but as
long as we're doing the work on the backend to kind of be more self-compassionate,
understand like our own boundariesand know like our own limitations
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with what we want to be visible or,you know, feel comfortable with.
That I think is enough to kind ofstart the process of visibility.
Without that, I think it ends up justbeing like, yeah, I'm gonna share,
and then you get like vulnerabilityfatigue, and that's not good either,
because that's not sustainable.
So anyways, that kind of got offof on a tangent for question number
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two, but let me repeat it again.
Question number one is who am I?
Your culture, identity,privilege stories, etc.
Question number two is whatpisses you off at work at home,
personally, professionally, inyour industry or wherever else?
You can go macro and think about theworld of society and all of that stuff.
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Or you can go micro or yougonna do a little bit of both.
And the third question is,what do you believe in?
And these are your own values.
And your own opinions basedoff of your own experiences.
I think something that we see a lot whenpeople start getting visible is like, of
course we consume a lot of content andwe want to, you know, have a polarizing
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opinion or maybe share something.
But I really think it's very, very,very important before getting visible
is to really decide and know whatpisses you off, but also what do
you specifically believe in yourvalues and your opinions, not just
regurgitating the values or opinionsof somebody else because it's not you.
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That's not showing up authentically.
That's not showing up as yourfull self because it just ends
up kind of creeping into copy catterritory, and we do not want that.
So those are ethical questions.
Let me repeat them one more time.
Who am I within culture, identity,privilege stories, what pisses
me off at work home, personally,professionally, in your industry, etc.
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And what do I believe myvalues and my opinions?
And if you want some bonus questions,and if you're like, Ooh, I love these.
These are going to be like myjournaling prompts for the next week.
Two bonus questions for you (19:09):
are you willing to defend your belief?
Are you willing to defendyour values and your opinions?
Or also a follow up question tothat, are you willing to potentially
be open to other opinions?
I would hope yes.
Although for me personally,it's still kind of like, it's
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difficult, but I'm working on it.
And the second question, second bonusquestion is are you open to sharing
your story and believing it's enough?
Are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
I added that second partand believing it's enough.
Because a lot of the times the clients,um, I work with, they end up thinking,
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oh, you know, my story's not enough.
Like, I didn't do anything amazing.
I didn't do anything cool, or Ididn't have a traumatic experience,
i, it is just like, I just livedmy life and it's just kind of.
Well, I go to the grocery storeand I go home and I do this and I
do that, and I do like yoga and Ido Pilates and blah, blah, blah.
But they don't thinkthat it's cool enough.
They don't think it's like excitingenough or they don't think that they had
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like a traumatic experience that kindof is like inspirational and to hell
with all of that because our storiesare enough just because we exist.
And if we go back to the first existentialquestion I mentioned, which is who am I?
And dive into, you know, culture,identity, privilege, and stories,
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experiences, accomplishments,achievements, and all of those things, if
we add that layer into your story, thatmakes your story enough because nobody
out there has lived your exact experienceor nobody out there has your layers.
Nobody out there hasall the same cultures.
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Yeah, we have like similar cultures,like you can have similar values
to me, but maybe the way we'vereached that kind of thought.
The way I realized this was myvalue was really different because
of the experiences, because of thestories, because of the culture,
because of the space community thatI was raised in, that I lived in
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my education, all of those things.
So the two bonus questions, if youwanna continue journaling are, or
thinking whatever it is, are you willingto defend your belief and number?
, are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
Just wanna let you know it's enough.
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Okay.
So after all these questions andall of these journaling and like
pondering and thinking and all ofthese things, uh, one, do you know
it's actually time to get visible.
So I think this is a big one.
And there are lots of people who might belistening, um, who are going through this.
And I go through this like all the timebecause I'm always like, oh my gosh.
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Like I get visible.
And then there are certain things thatlike make me kind of hold back and not
get visible for certain areas of mylife or certain opinions that I have or
certain stories that I want to share.
So there are three things thatI think, personally, um, it is
time for you to get visible.
So the first one is you have a huge,huge pull in your heart, and I hope
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y'all know what I'm talking about.
It's like this feeling of, oh mygosh, you have something to say.
It's like bubbling up in yourbody, like it needs to be released.
This story, this opinion, this idea,this message, and it is causing you-
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not pain, but honestly I feel like itcauses you like this feeling of 'ssss
ahhhhh', and you won't let it out.
You won't let it out because you'rescared and you won't let it out
because you are worried aboutwhat other people are gonna think.
And these are totally, this is notjust like you, like this is me too.
Like we won't let it out because we'rescared and we won't let it out because we
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feel like somebody's gonna call us out,somebody's gonna be like, this is invalid.
Somebody's going to you,attack us or whatever it is.
Um, but if you have like this hugepull in your heart, so like this pull
in your body where you're just like, Ineed to say something like, I, I feel
like y'all know what I'm talking about.
It's like when you have acough, let's give an example.
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So when you have a cough and you'resitting in class and this cough
is like coming up your throat.
It's tickling it, it is, you know, makingits way up and you know you need to cough,
but you're sitting in silence in theclass and everybody's like taking a test
or something and this cough is coming.
You feel it as it's traveling up yourthroat, you know, you gotta let it out.
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But then you're scared because oh,you're gonna be that awkward person who
coughs in the middle of a test and it'scompletely silent and you're the one
making noise and you know your face isall gonna get all red . So what do you do?
You stifle the cough, you holdit in, and then what happens?
Your body has like this physicalreaction of like, I hope y'all
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know what I'm talking about.
Uh, this is a feeling.
I think when you know that it's timeto get visible when you know it's
time to let that cough out becauseit is coming up so strong for you.
So that's number one when youknow it's time to get visible.
Number two is you are scrollingonline and feeling jealous.
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So these are, this islike a couple things.
So let's say that you have this messageto share and you're like scrolling and
scroll and because you're like worried toshare it or you feel fearful of sharing
it, you keep scrolling instead of likecreating it and like putting it out there.
What happens is we end up kind of likeconsuming instead because we're like,
oh, maybe if we could like consume enoughand like we find enough inspiration,
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then we'll feel ready to share or we'llsee like how somebody else did it.
But of course you're like lookingfor something that doesn't exists yet
because nobody has done it your way.
Oh my gosh.
So you just keep scrolling andscrolling and scrolling and scrolling
and scrolling and scrolling.
Looking for that sign, that sign onInstagram, that sign on Pinterest, that
sign on YouTube, that sign on a podcast.
This podcast, this is your sign or thesign in a conversation, whatever it is.
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You are legit scrolling, readingthrough all of the books, reading
through all of the articles, and you'relike, oh my gosh, I need to say this.
But you can't because allyou do is consume instead.
That is when you know thatit is time to get visible.
That is when you know it is time toshare whatever it is you need to share.
And then the last one is there is adeep, deep, deep yearning in your soul.
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So I just experienced thislast year where I had like the
deepest feeling of yearning.
Of, oh my gosh, I am stuck inlimbo because I know I am too damn
fucking, afraid to just do it.
So I was in this feeling of longing.
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And yearning and just thinking, gosh,and then like me recording this right
now, I'm like getting teary-eyed y'all.
If you can see me, I am like onecrouched over on this mic in my guest
bedroom, but also getting teary-eyed,um, getting teary-eyed, thinking like
it is such, like this painful feelingof, gosh, you just wanna do it.
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Like you wanna do it so, so, so bad.
You just wanna get your message out there.
You wanna say you wanna take a chanceon yourself, you wanna do it, and
something in you is just like, I can't.
I cannot do it.
So then you go back to what I wassaying before, you consume and
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you scroll, and then you have likethis huge cough that you stifle.
If you are feeling thisyearning and this pull.
I would say it is potentiallytime to get visible.
It is up to you.
I'm not gonna hear- I'm gonna, I'm notgonna be here to be like, do it, but
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kind of like do it . What I'm here is tohelp you with is maybe just to recognize
like, yeah, you have a message to shareand with all of the layers of who you
are as a multicultural, hyphenatedperson, your message is gonna be
really different than everybody else's.
So those are the three things toknow when it's time to get visible.
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Let me say it one more time.
One, you have a huge pull in your heart.
That's what I'm talking about with thelittle, little cough that you're stifling.
Number two, instead of creating something,you end up scrolling and scrolling and
scrolling and feel jealous, or you endup consuming, consuming, consuming,
and basically numbing yourself.
And number three, there is a deep,deep, deep yearning in your soul.
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To just allow yourself to take a chance onyou to take a chance on your message and
to bet on your experiences, your thoughts,your opinions, your ideas, and just do it.
That's when you knowit's time to get visable.
Now, if you're listening to thisand you're like, oh my gosh, it
me oh my gawd, it does take time.
So I'm not gonna be like, oh yeah,this happens in like one day,
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two days, five days, one week.
I've been working on like visibilitywith my clients for sometimes six months.
One client I've been working withfor three month, or not three months,
three years actually almost, andwe are still pulling out stories
and still kind of shaping how theyshow up in their own way online.
And it's a whole process.
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But first thing you gotta do is takethat first step and get visible.
And that could be, that doesn'tneed to be online, it doesn't
need to be on social media.
If you want it to be on social media,like by all means, it could just be
within your own personal networks.
It could be with like your partner,with your family, with your
close friends, whatever it is.
It could just be with yourself.
Like admitting it to yourself,like that is a big step, y'all.
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So that's kind of.
All of these existentialquestions for visibility.
If you need help, if you are a personalbrand or a thought leader, if you want
to build your personal brand or yourthought leadership or your company or
organization's visibility and you workin the DEI leadership or culture space.
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that can apply to you as well.
And I guess my, my ending questionto this is, what pisses you off?
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And are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
Let me know.
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Stay fierce fam!
And if we are digging deeper, ifwe are not having this conversation
with more people, so like itpisses me off when we're like, oh
yeah, show up more as yourself.
Go big or go home blah, blah, blah.
Like I love all of that, butthen it pisses me off when we
don't stop and think, okay, whatdoes this actually look like?
(00:20):
Hello.
Hello everyone.
I'm Cassandra Le, and you'relistening to I'm Lost, so what?
The podcast exploring betweenbelonging and carving your own path
for all the peeps out there who kindof know what you're doing, but still
question what the fuck is going on?
Yeah, I'm with you.
Hello, hello and welcomeback to the, I'm Lost.
(00:42):
So what?
podcast.
You are tuning in to episode two, whichis all about the existential questions to
consider if you want to be more visible.
I'm your host Cassandra.
And in episode or in theprevious episode, really I didn't
mention what my pronouns are.
So let me clear that up.
My pronouns are she, they, and in today'sepisode, we're gonna get existential.
(01:06):
Yeah, we're just gonna get existential.
I think.
Um, , I wanted to say that we'regonna get existential without getting
existential, but honestly I think thisis, we're just gonna get existential.
So I wanted to talk a little bitabout visibility and in the online
business world, which I move in andwork in, uh, when they talk about
(01:26):
visibility, they're talking aboutlike, showing up more on social media.
They're talking about sharing yourmessage and they're talking about,
you know, just getting your opinionsout there so that you can get more
people to come to your business.
What I wanna actually talk about today isnot necessarily within the business world.
Or the online business world,although this can definitely be
(01:47):
applied to your online businessor to your business in general.
Or if you are building a personalbrand or any of that, I think
it can just apply to a human.
But yeah.
So the first thing that I want to kindof like disclaimer is I think, hmm, let
me, let me figure out how to say this.
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On Instagram and in a lot of the thingsthat I see or read about personal
development, let's start there.
A lot of the things that I read andsee, say stuff like be authentic.
Uh, show up authentically, beyou, be more, you show up as
yourself, blah, blah, blah.
(02:28):
And that stuff I think isvery important and inspiring.
and insightful, but I think there arethings that we have to consider before
we go and tell somebody to literallybe more visible, show up authentically,
uh, show up as yourself, becausethere are a lot of layers to this that
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aren't necessarily talked about, thatI think need to be discussed because
there is nuance to visibility, right?
Like there is nuance to visibility becauseof the privileges that we hold, because
of the spaces that we occupy becauseof areas that we live in the country,
cities, um, homes, like the networksthat we belong to, visibility is really
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different for every single person.
So I wanna just say that gettingvisible can mean lots of things,
like I said before, like this episodecan be applied if you have a small
business, if you are a creator, ifyou want to build your personal brand.
Um, but this can also just meanlike showing more up more as
yourself in the world in general,what we were talking about.
(03:35):
Speaking up and stepping into leadershiproles at work or within your community
and building your personal brand ifyou are a small business owner or if
you are just somebody who believes thatthey have a strong message to share.
So to give you more background and contextinto why I am diving into visibility,
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well, I've worked with, well, me and mybusiness, The Quirky Pineapple Studio,
we've worked with a hundred plus clients.
Uh, people who are thought leaders, peoplewho want to build their personal brands.
We've worked with companies andbrands basically to help them get
visible because they're alreadydoing some really awesome work.
But they're basically justdoing really awesome work and
then not sharing about it.
(04:16):
So they want to basically share all ofthe great things that they are doing.
Most of them are black, indigenouspeople of color, and they are also
queer folks or people who have adisability or are neurodivergent.
And I know what it's like to basicallyrun into a lot of mindset blocks
(04:37):
and fear around getting visible.
And this is the nuance that I wasmentioning previously that I think a
lot of like the Instagram inspiringInstagram photos that we see, or like
these articles or like if you're watchingYouTube videos, sometimes I think the
message of visibility gets really shallow.
(04:58):
I think that's really kind of just likeblanketed, like yeah, just show up as
yourself or yeah, just be more yourselfor, yes, be more authentic and when we're
consuming this content, yeah, it's great.
And it's like, oh, it builds up thisfire inside of us and like it makes us
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think, yes, I wanna do it, I wanna do it.
But when we start taking action,there are very real things that
come up that basically make usquestion if visibility is worth it,
and also makes us consider, huh?
Am I even okay to get visible?
And I think this is thenuance of it, right?
(05:42):
Like when you are more visible, youhave to consider your physical safety
because of the identities that you holdor the spaces that you occupy or you
know, the where you live and all ofthese things, like are you physically
safe if you are to become more visible?
And this also takes into account yourprivilege and all of these things.
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Then also one another oneis protecting your privacy.
The more visible you get.
Of course the, the more, um, I don't wannasay curious, but really curious is not
the correct word, I would say the morenosy the world gets into your business.
So how do you protect yourprivacy when you get more visible,
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when you are more visible?
And also the last oneis setting boundaries.
What boundaries are we holding?
Are we keeping, are we settingfor ourselves and the expectations
we have for ourselves and of.
If we get more visible, and I feel likeno Instagram post or um, inspiring,
inspirational, motivational quoteon Instagram or that Pinterest quote
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that you just saved into your boardis really gonna dive into that nuance
because it just can't, like, socialmedia doesn't necessarily give us the
opportunity to get into the nuancedlayers of what visibility actually looks.
And of course if you are online, Imean, a lot of people, at least in
the space that I move in, everybodywants to get visible, right?
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I'm working with like online businessowners, I'm working with thought leaders.
I'm working with personal brands.
I'm working with like, you know, CEOs ofcompanies who want to get more visible.
Uh, but the work behind theclosed doors, is that okay?
When we start to considergetting more visible?
We start kind of hitting these mindsetblocks, we start hitting these fears.
(07:32):
We start thinking, oh, I need toshow up this way because if I'm gonna
be visible, I need to be X, Y, Z.
Or, oh, if I, uh, share too muchinformation, people are gonna think
of me as weak or unprofessional,or, oh, if I am doing X, Y, Z,
I'm totally, oh my gosh, cringe.
Those are all very real things thatmy clients have come to me with.
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But also I see a lot of my friendsgo through when they wanna share
more of their joy or more of theirlaughter, more of their love.
And these are the real things thatI don't think people talk about.
So we're gonna talk aboutthem today because I feel like
they need to be talked about.
So, okay, now that we're talking aboutthese things, I don't necessarily have
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answers because I feel like it dependsa lot on your current situation.
It depends a lot on your privilege,and I just wouldn't be able to be
like, oh yeah, get visible or likepush boundaries or do something.
I think it really takes into accountone, understanding more about yourself
and also more about the support networkthat you have as well as you know,
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are you able to kind of risk certainthings to show up more authentically?
I hate that word by the way, but areyou able to risk other things to show
up more as yourself and those thingscould be, you know, financial security.
It could be, I don'tknow, physical security.
It could be like yourhome, all of these things.
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Do you have a support network that canbasically be there for you if getting
visible causes like a ripple effectwhere you know, something changes and
now you need to look for something else.
Those are things to consider beforegetting visible, but I want to
ask you, or at least share thesethree existential questions, uh,
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to consider when getting visible.
So, these are three questions that Ishare with my clients, but actually
they can be applied to just people.
You don't have to have a business.
You don't need to be like an inspiringthought leader or personal brand.
This could be for us like themulticultural folks or the hyphenated
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folks who feel like they have a story ora message that they want to share, and
they just want to be able to use theirvoice more in their everyday lives.
So these are three existential questionsto consider when getting visible.
So the first one is (09:54):
who am I?
LOLs.
Uh, y'all knew I had to throwthat question in there, right?
Like, who am I?
I asked this question to my clients, but Iwanna ask it to everybody else because you
don't necessarily, again, need to be likethis super pop star or CEO of a company
or have a wild story or whatever it isto have a message to share or want to be
(10:21):
visible like you can be- you can want tobe visible just because you are yourself.
And the first question Ialways ask people is, who am I?
And that also has layers to it, right?
So, your- this question of who am I?
I want you, if you're goingto journal on this, awesome.
If you wanna just think about it, Iwould love for you to think about, okay,
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who are you in regards to your culture?
And when I'm talking culture, thisis something that my client, uh,
Shiva Roofeh, who is a culturalintelligence expert, actually taught me.
Culture is outside of your nation.
And also outside of yourheritage and your ancestry.
So culture could be things like youare a bullet journaler like me, hey!
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Or a you are a Zumba dancer.
Things like that.
So, Think about it like this.
Who are you within your culture?
If you wanna think about nationally,and also your heritage, but then also
other things that you like to do.
So if you are a part of T SwiftFan Club, that would be one.
If you are.
, I don't know, team coffeeall day, every day.
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Or you're like totally amatcha, girly, whatever it is.
That is also culture.
So let's go back.
Who are you in terms of culture,identity, privilege, stories, and
if there are other things as partof just the makeup of who you are.
So these could be experiences,accomplishments, achievements,
all of those things.
Who are you within all of that, and it'snot necessarily the labels that you have.
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So for me, wouldn't necessarilybe like, it could be daughter,
sister, all of those things, but itcan also be other things as well.
Like I love watching movie trailers.
I am a pisces sun.
Those are things that wouldfall into the who am I question.
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So that's number one.
Number two, second question for secondexistential question, uh, to consider
when getting visible (12:22):
what pisses you off?
Let me say that.
What pisses you the fuck off?
Ha ha.
Okay, so with this question, I want toknow what pisses you the fuck off at
work, home, personally, professionally,in your industry, et cetera.
What pisses you off,you can go big with it.
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If you wanna think about like the wholeworld and society and community, you can
go more micro, which is more thinkingabout your personal relationships,
your boundaries, all of those things.
And you go in the middle.
You could do both.
You go micro, macro level, takeit whichever you want, but I just
wanna know what pisses you offand follow up question to that.
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This is not question number three,but this is follow up to number two.
Why does it piss you off?
So personally for me, one thing thatpisses me off is just what I was
talking to you all about before.
These inspirational, motivationalquotes that we see on Instagram and
Pinterest and all of these thingsthat we reshare and we're like,
y'all, gosh, show up more as yourself.
(13:28):
Like play big, youknow, don't give a shit.
Be bigger, be more.
Like, that's stuff I love readingit, and I also re-share it.
So this is not just like a, ohmy gosh, y'all are doing this
thing and it pisses me off.
No, I do it myself.
I re-share this stuff and itpisses me off, but I still re-share
it because I'm like, oh yeah,give me a boost of energy today.
(13:50):
Uh, but what pisses me offis the fact that we don't
get the chance to dig deeper.
And if we are digging deeper, we are nothaving this conversation with more people.
So like it pisses me off when we'relike, oh yeah, show up more as yourself.
Go big or go home.
Like I love all of that, butthen it pisses me off when we
don't stop and think, okay, whatdoes this actually look like?
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What do I need to considerto make this a reality?
What do I need to considerif this becomes a reality?
And then I am kind of forcedto change my circumstances.
For example, like being more visible.
I think one time like me deciding tobe more visible and like be really
vocal about my values or about, youknow, advocating for having more
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black, indigenous people of color queerfolks share their message and stories.
I got two hate messages actually recently,maybe like a month and a half, two months
ago, where they came into my email.
One of 'em, it was super long,actually very personalized, so
I'm like, wow, this is great.
But they were really violent.
They were saying things like, you are aterrible person like you are a total twat.
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You are just like a lonelyperson who doesn't care or like,
you know, nobody loves you.
This is why you'realone, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and I think one of themtold me to eat shit and die.
And that I think if I were in like atotally different head space, if I hadn't
worked up to that, I think messages likethat probably would have, like totally
(15:29):
crushed me thanks to therapy and also likelots of life coaching and like doing a lot
of self-awareness exploration, self-loveexploration and things like that.
Those messages didn't hurt as much,but I think having that conversation
and being like, Hey, if you decide toget visible, it's not that you open
yourself up to it but the world thinksthat you are being more open to it.
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The world as in like people who suck.
Maybe they feel like they'reentitled to like share their
opinions about who you are.
And unfortunately, I don'tknow how to fully change that.
Um, maybe this is what like boundarieswould look like and all of that stuff.
Or like protecting your peas andyour space and like your online space
or even like your physical space.
But that I think is something thatkind of pisses me off where like a
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lot of people say, just show up more.
Be authentic.
Share your story.
People need to hear your story, something.
Your story is unique.
Yes, it is.
And it deserves to be heard.
It deserves to be shared.
But I also want to just makesure, like are we also doing the
work behind the scenes to prepareourselves if something were to.
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I'm not saying, although I feel likesomebody could come at me and be
like, oh, but are you saying likewe have to like, prepare ourselves
for everything that could happen?
Like No.
Um, I don't think you can prepare yourselffor everything that could happen, but as
long as we're doing the work on the backend to kind of be more self-compassionate,
understand like our own boundariesand know like our own limitations
(17:06):
with what we want to be visible or,you know, feel comfortable with.
That I think is enough to kind ofstart the process of visibility.
Without that, I think it ends up justbeing like, yeah, I'm gonna share,
and then you get like vulnerabilityfatigue, and that's not good either,
because that's not sustainable.
So anyways, that kind of got offof on a tangent for question number
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two, but let me repeat it again.
Question number one is who am I?
Your culture, identity,privilege stories, etc.
Question number two is whatpisses you off at work at home,
personally, professionally, inyour industry or wherever else?
You can go macro and think about theworld of society and all of that stuff.
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Or you can go micro or yougonna do a little bit of both.
And the third question is,what do you believe in?
And these are your own values.
And your own opinions basedoff of your own experiences.
I think something that we see a lot whenpeople start getting visible is like, of
course we consume a lot of content andwe want to, you know, have a polarizing
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opinion or maybe share something.
But I really think it's very, very,very important before getting visible
is to really decide and know whatpisses you off, but also what do
you specifically believe in yourvalues and your opinions, not just
regurgitating the values or opinionsof somebody else because it's not you.
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That's not showing up authentically.
That's not showing up as yourfull self because it just ends
up kind of creeping into copy catterritory, and we do not want that.
So those are ethical questions.
Let me repeat them one more time.
Who am I within culture, identity,privilege stories, what pisses
me off at work home, personally,professionally, in your industry, etc.
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And what do I believe myvalues and my opinions?
And if you want some bonus questions,and if you're like, Ooh, I love these.
These are going to be like myjournaling prompts for the next week.
Two bonus questions for you (19:09):
are you willing to defend your belief?
Are you willing to defendyour values and your opinions?
Or also a follow up question tothat, are you willing to potentially
be open to other opinions?
I would hope yes.
Although for me personally,it's still kind of like, it's
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difficult, but I'm working on it.
And the second question, second bonusquestion is are you open to sharing
your story and believing it's enough?
Are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
I added that second partand believing it's enough.
Because a lot of the times the clients,um, I work with, they end up thinking,
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oh, you know, my story's not enough.
Like, I didn't do anything amazing.
I didn't do anything cool, or Ididn't have a traumatic experience,
i, it is just like, I just livedmy life and it's just kind of.
Well, I go to the grocery storeand I go home and I do this and I
do that, and I do like yoga and Ido Pilates and blah, blah, blah.
But they don't thinkthat it's cool enough.
They don't think it's like excitingenough or they don't think that they had
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like a traumatic experience that kindof is like inspirational and to hell
with all of that because our storiesare enough just because we exist.
And if we go back to the first existentialquestion I mentioned, which is who am I?
And dive into, you know, culture,identity, privilege, and stories,
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experiences, accomplishments,achievements, and all of those things, if
we add that layer into your story, thatmakes your story enough because nobody
out there has lived your exact experienceor nobody out there has your layers.
Nobody out there hasall the same cultures.
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Yeah, we have like similar cultures,like you can have similar values
to me, but maybe the way we'vereached that kind of thought.
The way I realized this was myvalue was really different because
of the experiences, because of thestories, because of the culture,
because of the space community thatI was raised in, that I lived in
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my education, all of those things.
So the two bonus questions, if youwanna continue journaling are, or
thinking whatever it is, are you willingto defend your belief and number?
, are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
Just wanna let you know it's enough.
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Okay.
So after all these questions andall of these journaling and like
pondering and thinking and all ofthese things, uh, one, do you know
it's actually time to get visible.
So I think this is a big one.
And there are lots of people who might belistening, um, who are going through this.
And I go through this like all the timebecause I'm always like, oh my gosh.
(22:00):
Like I get visible.
And then there are certain things thatlike make me kind of hold back and not
get visible for certain areas of mylife or certain opinions that I have or
certain stories that I want to share.
So there are three things thatI think, personally, um, it is
time for you to get visible.
So the first one is you have a huge,huge pull in your heart, and I hope
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y'all know what I'm talking about.
It's like this feeling of, oh mygosh, you have something to say.
It's like bubbling up in yourbody, like it needs to be released.
This story, this opinion, this idea,this message, and it is causing you-
(22:46):
not pain, but honestly I feel like itcauses you like this feeling of 'ssss
ahhhhh', and you won't let it out.
You won't let it out because you'rescared and you won't let it out
because you are worried aboutwhat other people are gonna think.
And these are totally, this is notjust like you, like this is me too.
Like we won't let it out because we'rescared and we won't let it out because we
(23:08):
feel like somebody's gonna call us out,somebody's gonna be like, this is invalid.
Somebody's going to you,attack us or whatever it is.
Um, but if you have like this hugepull in your heart, so like this pull
in your body where you're just like, Ineed to say something like, I, I feel
like y'all know what I'm talking about.
It's like when you have acough, let's give an example.
(23:33):
So when you have a cough and you'resitting in class and this cough
is like coming up your throat.
It's tickling it, it is, you know, makingits way up and you know you need to cough,
but you're sitting in silence in theclass and everybody's like taking a test
or something and this cough is coming.
You feel it as it's traveling up yourthroat, you know, you gotta let it out.
(23:57):
But then you're scared because oh,you're gonna be that awkward person who
coughs in the middle of a test and it'scompletely silent and you're the one
making noise and you know your face isall gonna get all red . So what do you do?
You stifle the cough, you holdit in, and then what happens?
Your body has like this physicalreaction of like, I hope y'all
(24:18):
know what I'm talking about.
Uh, this is a feeling.
I think when you know that it's timeto get visible when you know it's
time to let that cough out becauseit is coming up so strong for you.
So that's number one when youknow it's time to get visible.
Number two is you are scrollingonline and feeling jealous.
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So these are, this islike a couple things.
So let's say that you have this messageto share and you're like scrolling and
scroll and because you're like worried toshare it or you feel fearful of sharing
it, you keep scrolling instead of likecreating it and like putting it out there.
What happens is we end up kind of likeconsuming instead because we're like,
oh, maybe if we could like consume enoughand like we find enough inspiration,
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then we'll feel ready to share or we'llsee like how somebody else did it.
But of course you're like lookingfor something that doesn't exists yet
because nobody has done it your way.
Oh my gosh.
So you just keep scrolling andscrolling and scrolling and scrolling
and scrolling and scrolling.
Looking for that sign, that sign onInstagram, that sign on Pinterest, that
sign on YouTube, that sign on a podcast.
This podcast, this is your sign or thesign in a conversation, whatever it is.
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You are legit scrolling, readingthrough all of the books, reading
through all of the articles, and you'relike, oh my gosh, I need to say this.
But you can't because allyou do is consume instead.
That is when you know thatit is time to get visible.
That is when you know it is time toshare whatever it is you need to share.
And then the last one is there is adeep, deep, deep yearning in your soul.
(25:54):
So I just experienced thislast year where I had like the
deepest feeling of yearning.
Of, oh my gosh, I am stuck inlimbo because I know I am too damn
fucking, afraid to just do it.
So I was in this feeling of longing.
(26:14):
And yearning and just thinking, gosh,and then like me recording this right
now, I'm like getting teary-eyed y'all.
If you can see me, I am like onecrouched over on this mic in my guest
bedroom, but also getting teary-eyed,um, getting teary-eyed, thinking like
it is such, like this painful feelingof, gosh, you just wanna do it.
(26:37):
Like you wanna do it so, so, so bad.
You just wanna get your message out there.
You wanna say you wanna take a chanceon yourself, you wanna do it, and
something in you is just like, I can't.
I cannot do it.
So then you go back to what I wassaying before, you consume and
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you scroll, and then you have likethis huge cough that you stifle.
If you are feeling thisyearning and this pull.
I would say it is potentiallytime to get visible.
It is up to you.
I'm not gonna hear- I'm gonna, I'm notgonna be here to be like, do it, but
(27:21):
kind of like do it . What I'm here is tohelp you with is maybe just to recognize
like, yeah, you have a message to shareand with all of the layers of who you
are as a multicultural, hyphenatedperson, your message is gonna be
really different than everybody else's.
So those are the three things toknow when it's time to get visible.
(27:43):
Let me say it one more time.
One, you have a huge pull in your heart.
That's what I'm talking about with thelittle, little cough that you're stifling.
Number two, instead of creating something,you end up scrolling and scrolling and
scrolling and feel jealous, or you endup consuming, consuming, consuming,
and basically numbing yourself.
And number three, there is a deep,deep, deep yearning in your soul.
(28:10):
To just allow yourself to take a chance onyou to take a chance on your message and
to bet on your experiences, your thoughts,your opinions, your ideas, and just do it.
That's when you knowit's time to get visable.
Now, if you're listening to thisand you're like, oh my gosh, it
me oh my gawd, it does take time.
So I'm not gonna be like, oh yeah,this happens in like one day,
(28:32):
two days, five days, one week.
I've been working on like visibilitywith my clients for sometimes six months.
One client I've been working withfor three month, or not three months,
three years actually almost, andwe are still pulling out stories
and still kind of shaping how theyshow up in their own way online.
And it's a whole process.
(28:53):
But first thing you gotta do is takethat first step and get visible.
And that could be, that doesn'tneed to be online, it doesn't
need to be on social media.
If you want it to be on social media,like by all means, it could just be
within your own personal networks.
It could be with like your partner,with your family, with your
close friends, whatever it is.
It could just be with yourself.
Like admitting it to yourself,like that is a big step, y'all.
(29:16):
So that's kind of.
All of these existentialquestions for visibility.
If you need help, if you are a personalbrand or a thought leader, if you want
to build your personal brand or yourthought leadership or your company or
organization's visibility and you workin the DEI leadership or culture space.
(29:36):
I would love and invite you to reach outto my business at the Quirky Pineapple
Studio, a brand strategy and contentmarketing studio to help you amplify
your message, rally your community,and create inclusive awesome shit.
By shit I mean content, you can send anemail to: hello@thequirkypineapple.com.
Or, check out our websitewww.thequirkypineapple.com to learn more
(30:01):
about our services, which are agencyservices, to basically outsource and
help you implement a brand strategyand content marketing strategy.
Now, if you are a regular human being andnot a person or company running a, like
running a company own organization thenI invite you to subscribe to the Doing
(30:25):
Good Newsletter for more musings and tipslike this, and of course, just check out.
Also, I think the show notes,because I will be linking a few blog
posts that my business, The QuirkyPineapple Studio has around visibility
that can apply to you as well.
And I guess my, my ending questionto this is, what pisses you off?
(30:50):
And are you open to sharing yourstory and believing it's enough?
Let me know.
Send me a DM on Instagram @CassandraTLe,let's continue this conversation.Ciao!
If you're hearing this message, that meansyou made it to the end of this episode.
Yay.
Thanks for listening.
If you enjoyed this episode andthought to yourself woah, it me.
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I'd love if you could share this withothers, post about it on social media
and or leave a rating and review.
Don't forget to subscribe too.
Wanna hang out with me inother areas of the internet?
You can follow me on Instagram@CassandraTLe for brand message and
content marketing tips and resources.
Check out my business atthe Quirky Pineapple Studio.
Thanks again and seeyou in the next episode.
(31:34):
Stay fierce fam!
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