November 8, 2023 • 11 mins
In this episode, we are at the Oregon High School Performing Arts Center to get a behind-the-scenes look at the upcoming production of A Christmas Carol. We’re talking with the Director, Marsha Heuer, along with a few cast members. Performances of A Christmas Carol are November 10, 11, and 12 at the Oregon High School Performing Arts Center. You can get your tickets online at OregonPerformingArtsCenter.com.
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SPEAKER1:
Today we are at the Oregon High School Performing Arts Center to get a behind
the scenes look at the upcoming production of A Christmas Carol. (00:11):
undefined
We're talking with director Marsha Heuer, along with a few cast members.
SPEAKER2: Welcome to this episode of Inside the OSD podcast, where it's all about the kids. (00:25):
undefined
Here is your host.
Lifelong educator and our superintendent, Dr.
Leslie Bergstrom.
SPEAKER1: Thanks for having us today. (00:39):
undefined
I know that rehearsals are in full swing.
We can hear them in the background and we're excited to hear how it's beengoing.
So could you start by introducing yourself and telling us a little bit aboutyour role at OHS and with this production?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER3: My name is Marsha Heuer and I'm a social studies teacher here at the high school. (00:54):
undefined
But I am directing A Christmas Carol this fall and it's been a lot of fun.
This is my second year in the district, but my 17th year overall as aneducator.
SPEAKER1: And this is definitely one of many, many shows that you've been involved in. (01:07):
undefined
SPEAKER3: Yes, I've been directing for well over a decade and many, many shows are under my belt. (01:10):
undefined
And this is definitely one that's been on my bucket list, because I actuallywas involved in A Christmas Carol growing up as a child.
SPEAKER1: Oh, nice. Well, we know that a production of this nature is an incredible undertaking. (01:21):
undefined
So what's involved in getting ready for opening night?
SPEAKER3: Oh my gosh, what isn't involved? (01:29):
undefined
I feel like that's -- there's so much.
Obviously we've been rehearsing for the past two months, but even before thenwe've been planning.
I've been working a lot with Mike Ducett, who also directs here, and he's beenhere for obviously a long time.
So he is kind of taking over as my producer and set designer for this show.
We've been working extensively with costumes, so this last week in the grind,it's really about putting all of those things together.
(01:55):
It's getting the kids on stage, but also getting the sound effects and thelighting and adding costumes and props, and then me changing things because it
doesn't necessarily look the way it was supposed to, or, you know, somethinghas happened and, you know, remembering our lines and, and everything like that.
So there's just there's so much that goes into this last week of rehearsal thatmake it both really stressful and also really, really, really fun.
SPEAKER1: That is incredible to think about all of the work you do and how much of it comes down to those last few days, making sure it all happens. (02:19):
undefined
So most of us are familiar with the story of A Christmas Carol, but withoutgiving anything away, what would you say is special about this particular
production?
SPEAKER3: Well, I think we've kind of stayed to the traditional aspect of what A Christmas Carol is all about. (02:37):
undefined
Of course, it follows Ebenezer Scrooge.
It's set in the 1800s.
We didn't really put it to a particular year, although Dickens wrote it for1843.
But Scrooge is miserly, he's really greedy, and he's visited by a formerbusiness partner, Marley.
(02:58):
And Marley informs him that he'll be visited by three ghosts that kind of sharewith him his past, his present, and what his future might look like if he
doesn't change his ways.
SPEAKER1: All right, so one thing I've always admired about our productions - they're really pretty fabulous - is the involvement of students in every single aspect. (03:08):
undefined
So can you talk about some of the roles in addition to the performers on stage?
SPEAKER3: Absolutely. So we have, I think, 50 high school students. (03:21):
undefined
We have ten students that are not in high school that are younger than highschool, whether it's middle school, elementary or even a four year old in this
production. But outside of this performers, we have eight different musicianswho are playing music before the show, during intermission, and even during the
show. I've added a lot of music.
(03:42):
Even though this is a play.
How can you have a Christmas story without Christmas carols to help with thetransitions?
In addition to those, we have, Gosh, I don't know, probably 20 to 30 techstudents working on sound lights.
They've been doing props costumes.
So we're we're close to 100 students involved in this production.
SPEAKER1: That is so fabulous. (04:02):
undefined
So let's talk about logistics.
When are the performances and how can families and community members gettickets?
SPEAKER3: So the performances - we have for this year, it's going to be Friday, November 10th at 7:30 p.m.. (04:10):
undefined
We have a double header on Saturday the 11th at 2 p.m.
and 7:30 p.m.
and then we close up with our matinee on Sunday, November 12th at 2 p.m..
Wonderful. They can go to the Oregon Performing Arts Center website to buytickets.
(04:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER1: All right. Thanks for taking a few minutes to talk with us today. (04:31):
undefined
And just to set the context for everyone, we have some of our high school castmembers in the room, along with one cast member who is four years old and will
be starting for next year.
But I don't think he's interested in talking to us.
So for the other three of you who are here, can you please start by introducingyourself, your year in school and the character you play?
SPEAKER4: I'm Tristan Jackson, I'm a senior this year and I play Marley and also the Ghost of Christmas Future. (04:54):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Thank you. (05:01):
undefined
SPEAKER5: I'm Calvin Sulima, I'm a junior this year and I'm playing Ebenezer Scrooge. (05:02):
undefined
SPEAKER6: My name is Claire Johnson. (05:07):
undefined
I'm a junior this year, and I play Mrs.
Cratchit.
SPEAKER1: Thank you. What made each of you decide to get involved in A Christmas Carol? (05:11):
undefined
SPEAKER4: I just want more experience. (05:15):
undefined
I love the experience of theater, and I love the whole, like, building a showup and really seeing it grow with other people.
And I think it's just like a magical experience to do.
SPEAKER1: Two months worth of experience. (05:30):
undefined
It's a really big undertaking.
Yeah. How about you?
SPEAKER5: I've been into acting since I was like a little child. (05:35):
undefined
Really? So it's been like a hobby of mine.
I haven't been able to do it since for a while, until high school, and I reallywanted to try challenging myself by going for the lead role this year, and I
think I -
SPEAKER1: You went for it and you got it. (05:49):
undefined
All right. Good for you.
How about you, Claire?
SPEAKER6: I've been in, like, every theater production that has ever had. (05:53):
undefined
Oh, really? It's just because I just love theater.
And most of most of the reason I love theater.
And I don't want to speak for everybody.
But I think most of the reason that other people love theater is because of thefriends that you have and the experience that you have with them during the
making of the show.
SPEAKER1: Very nice. (06:09):
undefined
All right, so tell us about rehearsals and how they've been going so far.
SPEAKER4: They've been pretty good. (06:15):
undefined
We're kind of in the stage of like, it's really transferring over and all thehard work is like paying off and it's coming into fruition.
We just started practicing with costumes yesterday, so we're getting to seeeveryone's costumes and how they're dressed for the show, and it's really cool.
SPEAKER1: Does it feel different when you're saying the lines to somebody in costume? (06:34):
undefined
SPEAKER4: A lot more powerful, yeah. (06:37):
undefined
And you feel like your character a lot more.
SPEAKER1: That makes sense. (06:41):
undefined
How about you two?
SPEAKER5: Yeah, I think rehearsals are going pretty well. (06:44):
undefined
I think a lot of the people who are new to high school theater are reallygetting like an experience of what that's like because, like, some of them were
involved in, like, the middle school Shrek the Musical.
Yes, yes, definitely a big tone shift going from middle school to high school.
And I think they're adjusting to that.
SPEAKER1: Well, I think just your sound equipment is so incredible here that even that alone would be a giant adjustment. (07:03):
undefined
Right. All that stuff.
Oh, I don't think I understand it, but I appreciate it.
SPEAKER6: I think that during - especially during these weeks right before tech week, we were really it's like, I don't want to say this like it's in the worst before it (07:13):
undefined
gets better stage where things are finally like, we're like figuring thingsout.
But once we do, it'll just make the show so, so, so much better.
SPEAKER1: That is exciting. (07:31):
undefined
Okay, so what's been your favorite part?
So my favorites always makes it hard, right?
SPEAKER6: I would say my favorite part is I am thinking about going into like work with children, and I have a bunch of children at (07:40):
undefined
my heel because, oh that's right.
Yes.
SPEAKER1: Makes sense. (07:53):
undefined
SPEAKER6: Gives an insight of like how that will actually happen in the future. (07:54):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Well, no. Your children in your classroom someday. (07:57):
undefined
Okay.
SPEAKER4: I had to learn how to walk on drywall stilts for this. (08:01):
undefined
Oh, my. So --And that took a couple days, but I think that was it's prettycomfortable now.
And I really it was really fun to do it and it's fun to be on them.
So yeah.
SPEAKER1: I suppose the ghosts of the future is really, really tall, right? (08:16):
undefined
Is that what it is? Okay.
Wow.
SPEAKER5: I think my favorite part has been getting to like, act with people I've never got to do scenes with before. (08:22):
undefined
Like some of my best friends are.
The show I never got to, like, grate act with them.
And now I have, like, scenes, like full scenes with these people.
And I also really liked assembling the drywall stills with Tristan.
Yeah, that was our task that one day.
Yeah.
SPEAKER7: What would you (08:40):
undefined
SPEAKER1: say to other students who see this show and aspire to get involved in future productions? (08:41):
undefined
SPEAKER6: Just do it. (08:47):
undefined
SPEAKER7: Just do it like it's so fun. (08:48):
undefined
It's really the
SPEAKER6: thing that I think deters a lot of students is like the time commitment and the conditioning. (08:51):
undefined
I think if you really want to do it, just give it a try.
There's no downside to doing it, in my opinion at least.
SPEAKER1: Yeah. Very nice. (09:03):
undefined
SPEAKER4: It's a great way to spend like all the time that you can after school. (09:04):
undefined
And it's you meet a lot of people that you wouldn't have met otherwise.
Like a lot of my friends that I know I just wouldn't even know existed if notfor theater.
Excellent.
SPEAKER5: It's a great way to find your people. (09:20):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Yeah. Oh, I love that. (09:21):
undefined
So, for the seniors, what does it mean for you to be a part of this show?
SPEAKER4: It's it's pretty cool. (09:28):
undefined
Um, I think it's there's not a lot of us.
There's only like, 5 or 6 of us in this show.
Really?
SPEAKER1: Okay. (09:37):
undefined
SPEAKER4: Um, but it's really nice to sort of lead by example and just, like, try to - try to (09:38):
undefined
help others as we go.
Um, and it's just, it's fun.
I don't know, it's, it's, it's the same, but it's really different because it'slike the last play that you get to do and then you're gone.
SPEAKER7: Oh yeah. (10:01):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Oh yeah. All right. (10:02):
undefined
So why should our listeners and community members get tickets to A ChristmasCarol?
SPEAKER4: Because it's cool. (10:10):
undefined
SPEAKER7: That's pretty great. I think a (10:11):
undefined
SPEAKER6: lot of the students here are putting a lot of hard work, and I think the hard work definitely will pay off. (10:14):
undefined
I think this show is going to be so good and you should definitely come see it.
SPEAKER5: Very nice. Get your tickets fast though because they're going out quick. (10:23):
undefined
SPEAKER7: Are they? (10:26):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Oh, that's great to know. (10:26):
undefined
SPEAKER5: So many relatives (10:28):
undefined
SPEAKER7: coming (10:29):
undefined
SPEAKER5: I've never seen. (10:30):
undefined
SPEAKER1: So your family is responsible for a good part of that? (10:31):
undefined
I love it.
SPEAKER7: My family members are (10:34):
undefined
SPEAKER5: getting tickets for multiple (10:34):
undefined
SPEAKER7: nights. (10:35):
undefined
SPEAKER1: That's great, that's great. (10:36):
undefined
And now, before we conclude, we do have our future 4K student, Theodore, who isyoung Scrooge.
Young Scrooge, would you like to say hello?
SPEAKER8: To who? (10:48):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Anybody listening. (10:49):
undefined
Just say hello.
SPEAKER7: Hello, hello. (10:51):
undefined
SPEAKER1: He's going to be great. (10:52):
undefined
Thanks to our listeners for tuning in this week.
A Christmas Carol performances are November 10th, 11th, and 12th at the OregonHigh School Performing Arts Center.
You can get your tickets online at OregonPerformingArtsCenter.com.
(11:14):
Remember that you can find links to all episodes of inside the OSD and submittopic ideas on our website at OregonSD.Org/
podcast. You can find this podcast anywhere you can find podcasts.
Make sure to subscribe if you're listening on one of these apps to getnotifications on the most recent episodes.
(11:34):
We'll see you next time on inside the OSD where it's all about the kids.
undefined
We're talking with director Marsha Heuer, along with a few cast members.
SPEAKER2: Welcome to this episode of Inside the OSD podcast, where it's all about the kids. (00:25):
undefined
Here is your host.
Lifelong educator and our superintendent, Dr.
Leslie Bergstrom.
SPEAKER1: Thanks for having us today. (00:39):
undefined
I know that rehearsals are in full swing.
We can hear them in the background and we're excited to hear how it's beengoing.
So could you start by introducing yourself and telling us a little bit aboutyour role at OHS and with this production?
Absolutely.
SPEAKER3: My name is Marsha Heuer and I'm a social studies teacher here at the high school. (00:54):
undefined
But I am directing A Christmas Carol this fall and it's been a lot of fun.
This is my second year in the district, but my 17th year overall as aneducator.
SPEAKER1: And this is definitely one of many, many shows that you've been involved in. (01:07):
undefined
SPEAKER3: Yes, I've been directing for well over a decade and many, many shows are under my belt. (01:10):
undefined
And this is definitely one that's been on my bucket list, because I actuallywas involved in A Christmas Carol growing up as a child.
SPEAKER1: Oh, nice. Well, we know that a production of this nature is an incredible undertaking. (01:21):
undefined
So what's involved in getting ready for opening night?
SPEAKER3: Oh my gosh, what isn't involved? (01:29):
undefined
I feel like that's -- there's so much.
Obviously we've been rehearsing for the past two months, but even before thenwe've been planning.
I've been working a lot with Mike Ducett, who also directs here, and he's beenhere for obviously a long time.
So he is kind of taking over as my producer and set designer for this show.
We've been working extensively with costumes, so this last week in the grind,it's really about putting all of those things together.
(01:55):
It's getting the kids on stage, but also getting the sound effects and thelighting and adding costumes and props, and then me changing things because it
doesn't necessarily look the way it was supposed to, or, you know, somethinghas happened and, you know, remembering our lines and, and everything like that.
So there's just there's so much that goes into this last week of rehearsal thatmake it both really stressful and also really, really, really fun.
SPEAKER1: That is incredible to think about all of the work you do and how much of it comes down to those last few days, making sure it all happens. (02:19):
undefined
So most of us are familiar with the story of A Christmas Carol, but withoutgiving anything away, what would you say is special about this particular
production?
SPEAKER3: Well, I think we've kind of stayed to the traditional aspect of what A Christmas Carol is all about. (02:37):
undefined
Of course, it follows Ebenezer Scrooge.
It's set in the 1800s.
We didn't really put it to a particular year, although Dickens wrote it for1843.
But Scrooge is miserly, he's really greedy, and he's visited by a formerbusiness partner, Marley.
(02:58):
And Marley informs him that he'll be visited by three ghosts that kind of sharewith him his past, his present, and what his future might look like if he
doesn't change his ways.
SPEAKER1: All right, so one thing I've always admired about our productions - they're really pretty fabulous - is the involvement of students in every single aspect. (03:08):
undefined
So can you talk about some of the roles in addition to the performers on stage?
SPEAKER3: Absolutely. So we have, I think, 50 high school students. (03:21):
undefined
We have ten students that are not in high school that are younger than highschool, whether it's middle school, elementary or even a four year old in this
production. But outside of this performers, we have eight different musicianswho are playing music before the show, during intermission, and even during the
show. I've added a lot of music.
(03:42):
Even though this is a play.
How can you have a Christmas story without Christmas carols to help with thetransitions?
In addition to those, we have, Gosh, I don't know, probably 20 to 30 techstudents working on sound lights.
They've been doing props costumes.
So we're we're close to 100 students involved in this production.
SPEAKER1: That is so fabulous. (04:02):
undefined
So let's talk about logistics.
When are the performances and how can families and community members gettickets?
SPEAKER3: So the performances - we have for this year, it's going to be Friday, November 10th at 7:30 p.m.. (04:10):
undefined
We have a double header on Saturday the 11th at 2 p.m.
and 7:30 p.m.
and then we close up with our matinee on Sunday, November 12th at 2 p.m..
Wonderful. They can go to the Oregon Performing Arts Center website to buytickets.
(04:30):
Yeah.
SPEAKER1: All right. Thanks for taking a few minutes to talk with us today. (04:31):
undefined
And just to set the context for everyone, we have some of our high school castmembers in the room, along with one cast member who is four years old and will
be starting for next year.
But I don't think he's interested in talking to us.
So for the other three of you who are here, can you please start by introducingyourself, your year in school and the character you play?
SPEAKER4: I'm Tristan Jackson, I'm a senior this year and I play Marley and also the Ghost of Christmas Future. (04:54):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Thank you. (05:01):
undefined
SPEAKER5: I'm Calvin Sulima, I'm a junior this year and I'm playing Ebenezer Scrooge. (05:02):
undefined
SPEAKER6: My name is Claire Johnson. (05:07):
undefined
I'm a junior this year, and I play Mrs.
Cratchit.
SPEAKER1: Thank you. What made each of you decide to get involved in A Christmas Carol? (05:11):
undefined
SPEAKER4: I just want more experience. (05:15):
undefined
I love the experience of theater, and I love the whole, like, building a showup and really seeing it grow with other people.
And I think it's just like a magical experience to do.
SPEAKER1: Two months worth of experience. (05:30):
undefined
It's a really big undertaking.
Yeah. How about you?
SPEAKER5: I've been into acting since I was like a little child. (05:35):
undefined
Really? So it's been like a hobby of mine.
I haven't been able to do it since for a while, until high school, and I reallywanted to try challenging myself by going for the lead role this year, and I
think I -
SPEAKER1: You went for it and you got it. (05:49):
undefined
All right. Good for you.
How about you, Claire?
SPEAKER6: I've been in, like, every theater production that has ever had. (05:53):
undefined
Oh, really? It's just because I just love theater.
And most of most of the reason I love theater.
And I don't want to speak for everybody.
But I think most of the reason that other people love theater is because of thefriends that you have and the experience that you have with them during the
making of the show.
SPEAKER1: Very nice. (06:09):
undefined
All right, so tell us about rehearsals and how they've been going so far.
SPEAKER4: They've been pretty good. (06:15):
undefined
We're kind of in the stage of like, it's really transferring over and all thehard work is like paying off and it's coming into fruition.
We just started practicing with costumes yesterday, so we're getting to seeeveryone's costumes and how they're dressed for the show, and it's really cool.
SPEAKER1: Does it feel different when you're saying the lines to somebody in costume? (06:34):
undefined
SPEAKER4: A lot more powerful, yeah. (06:37):
undefined
And you feel like your character a lot more.
SPEAKER1: That makes sense. (06:41):
undefined
How about you two?
SPEAKER5: Yeah, I think rehearsals are going pretty well. (06:44):
undefined
I think a lot of the people who are new to high school theater are reallygetting like an experience of what that's like because, like, some of them were
involved in, like, the middle school Shrek the Musical.
Yes, yes, definitely a big tone shift going from middle school to high school.
And I think they're adjusting to that.
SPEAKER1: Well, I think just your sound equipment is so incredible here that even that alone would be a giant adjustment. (07:03):
undefined
Right. All that stuff.
Oh, I don't think I understand it, but I appreciate it.
SPEAKER6: I think that during - especially during these weeks right before tech week, we were really it's like, I don't want to say this like it's in the worst before it (07:13):
undefined
gets better stage where things are finally like, we're like figuring thingsout.
But once we do, it'll just make the show so, so, so much better.
SPEAKER1: That is exciting. (07:31):
undefined
Okay, so what's been your favorite part?
So my favorites always makes it hard, right?
SPEAKER6: I would say my favorite part is I am thinking about going into like work with children, and I have a bunch of children at (07:40):
undefined
my heel because, oh that's right.
Yes.
SPEAKER1: Makes sense. (07:53):
undefined
SPEAKER6: Gives an insight of like how that will actually happen in the future. (07:54):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Well, no. Your children in your classroom someday. (07:57):
undefined
Okay.
SPEAKER4: I had to learn how to walk on drywall stilts for this. (08:01):
undefined
Oh, my. So --And that took a couple days, but I think that was it's prettycomfortable now.
And I really it was really fun to do it and it's fun to be on them.
So yeah.
SPEAKER1: I suppose the ghosts of the future is really, really tall, right? (08:16):
undefined
Is that what it is? Okay.
Wow.
SPEAKER5: I think my favorite part has been getting to like, act with people I've never got to do scenes with before. (08:22):
undefined
Like some of my best friends are.
The show I never got to, like, grate act with them.
And now I have, like, scenes, like full scenes with these people.
And I also really liked assembling the drywall stills with Tristan.
Yeah, that was our task that one day.
Yeah.
SPEAKER7: What would you (08:40):
undefined
SPEAKER1: say to other students who see this show and aspire to get involved in future productions? (08:41):
undefined
SPEAKER6: Just do it. (08:47):
undefined
SPEAKER7: Just do it like it's so fun. (08:48):
undefined
It's really the
SPEAKER6: thing that I think deters a lot of students is like the time commitment and the conditioning. (08:51):
undefined
I think if you really want to do it, just give it a try.
There's no downside to doing it, in my opinion at least.
SPEAKER1: Yeah. Very nice. (09:03):
undefined
SPEAKER4: It's a great way to spend like all the time that you can after school. (09:04):
undefined
And it's you meet a lot of people that you wouldn't have met otherwise.
Like a lot of my friends that I know I just wouldn't even know existed if notfor theater.
Excellent.
SPEAKER5: It's a great way to find your people. (09:20):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Yeah. Oh, I love that. (09:21):
undefined
So, for the seniors, what does it mean for you to be a part of this show?
SPEAKER4: It's it's pretty cool. (09:28):
undefined
Um, I think it's there's not a lot of us.
There's only like, 5 or 6 of us in this show.
Really?
SPEAKER1: Okay. (09:37):
undefined
SPEAKER4: Um, but it's really nice to sort of lead by example and just, like, try to - try to (09:38):
undefined
help others as we go.
Um, and it's just, it's fun.
I don't know, it's, it's, it's the same, but it's really different because it'slike the last play that you get to do and then you're gone.
SPEAKER7: Oh yeah. (10:01):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Oh yeah. All right. (10:02):
undefined
So why should our listeners and community members get tickets to A ChristmasCarol?
SPEAKER4: Because it's cool. (10:10):
undefined
SPEAKER7: That's pretty great. I think a (10:11):
undefined
SPEAKER6: lot of the students here are putting a lot of hard work, and I think the hard work definitely will pay off. (10:14):
undefined
I think this show is going to be so good and you should definitely come see it.
SPEAKER5: Very nice. Get your tickets fast though because they're going out quick. (10:23):
undefined
SPEAKER7: Are they? (10:26):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Oh, that's great to know. (10:26):
undefined
SPEAKER5: So many relatives (10:28):
undefined
SPEAKER7: coming (10:29):
undefined
SPEAKER5: I've never seen. (10:30):
undefined
SPEAKER1: So your family is responsible for a good part of that? (10:31):
undefined
I love it.
SPEAKER7: My family members are (10:34):
undefined
SPEAKER5: getting tickets for multiple (10:34):
undefined
SPEAKER7: nights. (10:35):
undefined
SPEAKER1: That's great, that's great. (10:36):
undefined
And now, before we conclude, we do have our future 4K student, Theodore, who isyoung Scrooge.
Young Scrooge, would you like to say hello?
SPEAKER8: To who? (10:48):
undefined
SPEAKER1: Anybody listening. (10:49):
undefined
Just say hello.
SPEAKER7: Hello, hello. (10:51):
undefined
SPEAKER1: He's going to be great. (10:52):
undefined
Thanks to our listeners for tuning in this week.
A Christmas Carol performances are November 10th, 11th, and 12th at the OregonHigh School Performing Arts Center.
You can get your tickets online at OregonPerformingArtsCenter.com.
(11:14):
Remember that you can find links to all episodes of inside the OSD and submittopic ideas on our website at OregonSD.Org/
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