EP 18 - Dr. Brandeis Marshall talks about AI in the classroom, making assignments un-AI-able, data science, and the new digital AI divide.

In this episode, John and Jason talk with Dr. Brandeis Marshall about making online assignments Un-AIable, understanding data science, concerns & opportunities of using AI in the classroom, and the new digital AI divide. See complete notes and transcripts at www.onlinelearningpodcast.com 

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Dr. Brandeis Marshall Links and Resources:

• Dr. Brandeis Marshall’s Website and LinkedIn
• What’s Un-AIable by Dr. Brandeis Marshall on Medium (Paywall)
• Book by Dr. Marshall - Data Conscience: Algorithmic Siege on our Humanity
• WaPo article on Harriet Tubman and Khan Academy and Dr. Marshall’s article how not to use AI
• Rebel Tech Newsletter

Other Reading / Resources:

• These Women Tried to Warn Us About AI
• On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big?

Dr. Brandeis Marshall Bio:

Brandeis Marshall is Founder and CEO of DataedX Group, a data ethics learning and development agency for educators, scholars and practitioners to counteract automated oppression efforts with culturally-responsive instruction and strategies. Trained as a computer scientist and as a former college professor, Brandeis teaches, speaks and writes about the racial, gender, socioeconomic and socio-technical impact of data operations on technology and society. She wrote Data Conscience: Algorithmic Siege on our Humanity (Wiley, 2022) as a counter-argument reference for tech’s move fast and break things philosophy. She pinpoints, guides and recommends paths to moving slower and building more responsible human-centered AI approaches.

Transcript

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Intro

[00:00:00] Jason: Some banter on the front end.

[00:00:02] Brandeis: Oh, I'm great at banter.

[00:00:03] Jason: Oh, good.

[00:00:04] Brandeis: I've been teaching for 23 years, so you have to have that conversation with the students before classes begin.

[00:00:13] Jason: If you like banter, then you've come to the right place because This podcast is mostly banter

[00:00:18] John: I'm John Nash here with Jason Johnston.

[00:00:21] Jason: Hey, John. Hey, everyone. And this is Online Learning in the Second Half, the online learning podcast.

[00:00:27] John: Yeah, and we are doing this podcast to let you all in on a conversation we've been having for the last two and a half years about online education. Look, online learning's had its chance to be great, and some of it is, but a lot of it still isn't. So how are we going to get to the next stage, Jason?

[00:00:43] Jason: That is a great question. How about we do a podcast and talk about it?

[00:00:47] John: I love that idea. What do you want to talk about today?

[00:00:50] Jason: um, to talk with you, of like usual,

[00:00:53] John: That's overrated, but

that's

[00:00:54] Jason: but I would also love

to talk to you. a very special guest with us, Dr. Brandeis Marshall. Welcome.

[00:01:01] Brandeis: Thank you both for having me.

[00:01:03] Jason: And is it okay if we call you Bran