EP 34 - The Evolution and Future of Online Learning with Dr. Judith Boettcher

In EP 34, John and Jason discuss with Dr. Judith Boettcher the evolution of online learning, the importance of instructional design, and the centrality of student engagement. The conversation also touches on project-based learning, AI's impact on education, and the critical role of teacher-as-mentor. Tune in for an insightful discussion on making online learning more effective, human, and future-ready.

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Learn more about Dr. Judith Boettcher on her website: http://designingforlearning.info/about-dr-boettcher/

Resources:

• PLATO Computer System
• Judith’s Website
• Judith’s book: Online Teaching Survival Guide (2021)
• Jason’s other top Online Teaching Books
  • Michelle Miller “Minds Online”
  • Flower Darby - “Small Teaching Online”
  • Catherine Denial “Pedagogy of kindness”
• Judith’s article: Student-Centered Learning in Dewey’s Holodeck – It Doesn’t Get Any Better than This—Now!
• IHE article - The Absurdity of Asynchrony

Theme Music: Pumped by RoccoW is licensed under an Attribution-NonCommercial License.

Transcript

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[00:00:00] Jason: Today is a fulfillment of a little bit of a dream of mine. Do you know this? So thank you for helping me fulfill one of my dreams.

[00:00:06] Judith: Wow. Sounds like excellent planning, Jason!

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[00:00:10] John Nash: I'm John Nash here with Jason Johnston.

[00:00:13] Jason: Hey, John. Hey, everyone. And this is Online Learning in the Second Half, the online learning podcast.

[00:00:19] John Nash: Yeah. We're doing this podcast to let you in on a conversation we've been having for the past. Wow. Are we going to start our third year of this soon? Yeah.

[00:00:28] Jason: I guess so.

[00:00:30] John Nash: About online education, online learning has had its chance to be great and some of it is, but still a lot of it isn't. So how are we going to get to the next stage, Jason?

[00:00:39] Jason: That is a great question. How about we do a podcast and talk about it?

[00:00:44] John Nash: I'd love to do that. What do you want to talk about today?

[00:00:47] Jason: Well, I'm very excited today, John, because we have a very special guest with us. Somebody that I've been reading her work now for a while and it is Judith Betcher. Judith, welcome.

[00:01:00] Judith: Well, thank you very much for being here. I'm delighted to be part of your series.

[00:01:04] Jason: Yeah, well, it's so great to have you. Judith, why don't you tell us just a little bit about kind of your your background? What have you been up to for the last little while? I know that a big part of your life is online learning and you've done it both in various capacities. So just tell us a little bit.

[00:01:19] Judith: well, actually, getting ready for this podcast, I started going back and thinking, and when you're as old as I am, that's kind of dangerous, you realize, and I thought, Oh my God, my first experience with anything approaching online learning was when I was working for a computer company and we were building and designing. What was called at that time computer based instruction.

So, as man, as we've moved along here, over these years, I was thinking it's actually online learning has become it actually is a merging of the computer based instruction movement with the traditional distance learning, in the old distance learning correspondence learning.

So what we have Today in 2025 is really elements of all of these different movements, starting back with the like I said, the computer based instruction movement.