January 15, 2025 • 48 mins
Embracing Authenticity: Mary Crafts on Women Optimizing Wellness
In this engaging episode of Radio Daybreak, hosts Becks, Jen Banks, and Michelle Orton feature Mary Crafts, a remarkable author, podcaster, speaker, healer, and entrepreneur as their special guest. Mary shares her transformative journey described in her book 'Unbounded: From Sorrow to Summit' and discusses themes of self-acceptance, vulnerability, and resilience. She reflects on pivotal moments, including climbing Mount Kilimanjaro and overcoming personal fears, emphasizing the power of embracing authenticity.
Additionally, the show highlights community events like novel farmer's markets and local business networking meetings.
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00:00 Introduction to Radio Daybreak
00:21 Meet Mary Crafts: A Woman of Many Talents
01:02 Studio Announcements and Fun Tidbits
01:26 Farmer's Market Highlights
02:41 Local Business Spotlight
03:04 Interview with Mary Crafts Begins
04:20 Mary Crafts' Pivotal Transformation
11:17 Climbing Kilimanjaro: A Journey of Resilience
17:37 Facing Fears and Embracing Vulnerability
23:46 The Root of All Fears
24:37 Choosing a Word for the Year
24:58 Permission to Keep Singing
25:51 Being Enough
27:37 Persistence and Excellence
29:11 Intentionality and Momentum
30:33 Challenges of Midlife Women
32:01 The Power of Social Circles
32:19 Flexibility and Expectations
33:35 Perfectionism and Aging
36:02 Reframing 'Should' and 'Need'
45:56 The Importance of Gratitude
47:20 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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Hey there Daybreak.
We've got a great show for youtoday here on Radio Daybreak.
It's a special episode with Becks,Jen Banks and Michelle Orton.
Wow.
The Women Optimizing Wellness.
Now, their guest is alady named Mary Crafts.
Now, if you don't know who Mary Craftsis, let me get out my, let me get out
my, my long list of what she does.
(00:32):
She's an author, a podcaster, speaker.
Healer, entrepreneur, and just ahuge advocate for women empowerment.
Mary Crafts Inc.
I N C dot com.
That's her website ifyou want to hear more.
You go there, you're gonna findout real quick that she's a badass
woman with purpose, grace, and grit.
Her book is Unboundedfrom Sorrow to Summit.
(00:56):
You guys gotta stick aroundand listen to this interview.
She's got some amazing, justamazing advice for women.
Anybody out there though, uh, butbefore we get to that, a couple
of, a couple of announcements, man.
We're in a new studio.
We're in a new studio.
I mean, it's still in the basementand I love it though, but, uh,
my wife did want to, uh, hide abunch of googly eyes around here.
(01:17):
I just found one.
I just found one.
She wanted to hide googlyeyes in the background.
I might have to, we mighthave to go for that.
I think that'd be a kind of fun idea.
Let's go back to this,um, this farmer's market.
So you guys saw the video we put out.
We put a video out Saturday morningand there was a farmer's market.
Laura Gaylord and Empower CommunityMarkets, we're down at Novel.
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I got my fresh fruit right here.
I still got my fresh fruit.
That's not the only onethat she's doing though.
She's doing these all the wayuntil the farmer's markets
outside get picked back up.
The next one at Novel is February 8th.
Go out there and get yourValentine's Day stuff.
You ain't gonna, the last time,you, you guys, I went to this
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place called Lux and Whimsy.
They didn't pay me for this.
They didn't pay me, I promise.
I promise.
But,
not many places can you go and buy a bat.
I'm talking about, not a baseballbat, I'm talking about a B.
A.
T.
I got a live, well he's not aliveanymore, he's frozen up, but I
got a bat at the, at the market.
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You guys gotta get out there, youcan find anything and everything.
I gave it to my wife, it was oneof the best presents she ever got.
Lux and Whimsy, HaleyI believe was her name.
You know what, I gottaget her on the show.
Speaking of businesses, the B.
M.
I., I'm not talking about B.
M.
I., I know it's thefirst of the year, the B.
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N.
I.
Business Network International.
Now in daybreak.
9am on Wednesdays, we're at the DCC.
If you've got a business, youdon't have to This is your invite.
You don't have to have anybodyelse, you don't have to sign up.
Just come on in.
Let's go get to thisinterview with the Wow!
Women Optimizing Wellness and Mary Crafts.
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We'll see you guys on the other side.
Welcome to Wow!
Women Optimizing Wellness, wherewe celebrate the incredible journey
and wisdom of inspiring women.
Oh, okay.
Is that why I'm here?
That's why you're here.
Yes.
And today we have the privilegeof speaking with you, Mary Crafts.
She is a trailblazing entrepreneur,speaker, adventurer, and
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author of the powerful book,Unbounded, from sorrow to summit.
Her journey from overcoming fearand vulnerability to climbing Mount
Kilimanjaro and building a multimillion dollar business is a testament
to resilience and transformation.
Mary's mission is to inspireothers to embrace courage,
authenticity, and personal growth.
So good to have you here, Mary.
(03:51):
Thank you so much.
I'm honored to be
here
and to be involved
in this.
You know, your new launch of,of your retreats and so many
things that you guys are doing.
So it's really an honor to be here.
Oh, well, thank you.
We feel
the very same way about you.
We have to like really write down thatintro because there's so many things
that you have done in your world,your life and so many accomplishments.
(04:13):
So truly, thank you somuch for being here.
I'm going to start off with areally tough question, right?
Like, let's get thehard one out of the way.
Um, so.
So I really just kind of wanted todive into, um, Mary, your life has been
filled with incredible transformations.
Uh, what was the most pivotal?
Moment for you that has really shaped,um, the woman that you are today.
(04:35):
Yeah, I really, that was easy for me.
Oh, good because it happened at avery succinct moment and I remember
it as if it were yesterday, uh, it50th birthday and so now I'm 20,
I'm 71, so that's 21 years ago.
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And that's.
Before we had cell phonesand this kind of photography.
Right.
And people were at my 50thbirthday party doing this.
And then you take the film intoKmart when there was still Kmart.
I remember.
Yes.
And you would get it developedand you would wait outside, uh,
anxiously when you would get itdeveloped and flip through them.
(05:18):
And I was sitting out thereflipping through these pictures
of my 50th birthday party.
And I came across the picture of me.
Just by myself.
And
I just started to weep.
Who's that
person?
I never saw myself as that person.
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I don't know how to get away from that.
I'm
so lost.
I don't know how I got here, so howwould I possibly know how I got away?
To get away!
I was just seized with thisfear that this was my life.
And as I sat there longer andlonger, I realized this is my moment.
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This is my moment
to make a turn and to shift.
Wow.
At the time, I didn'tknow what it would take.
I didn't know how long it would take me.
But I knew that I was turning.
Mm.
I could feel myself literally turning.
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And so at that point in my life, Ihad been in my business for 20 years.
I was already a verysuccessful entrepreneur.
But, I was just burying deeperand deeper all the struggles that
I had dealt with my whole life.
And putting out here, well lookat the success of my business.
Surely I must be okay.
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I was wearing this badge thatsaid, uh, I only sleep four hours
a night, aren't I wonderful?
You know, all the things we aswomen do to build up these badges
on us that make us okay, as opposedto dealing with what's inside.
At the time, I was 284 pounds,and just really hating myself.
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And yet, to the outside world, Asthat photo depicted, I was full of
smiles and laughter and successful,
but so, so sad inside.
So what you saw in that photo was not justthe exterior that you're talking about.
You saw me, you saw yourself.
Yeah.
The full authenticity of who that was.
(07:36):
And all that smiling just meltedaway and I, I saw her, I saw me.
Oh, I see.
I think that's so relatable, especiallyas women, we do seek that external
validation to mean something aboutus, but really no matter how much you
chase, that doesn't fix anything inside.
Exactly.
Wow.
So very pivotal momentfor you of transition.
(08:00):
What was step one for you?
What was step one?
Well,
just the realization and acceptancethat I was going to stop hiding.
Okay.
Was huge.
Yeah,
because I felt like I'dspent my entire life hiding.
And so, you know, I would lookover here and all these things.
(08:21):
Don't pay attention over here.
Kind of like the Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, you know.
These are not the dronesyou're looking for.
I was playing this game all the timeto get people to look over here.
Just don't look here.
And
a very pivotal moment as I realized,and as I walked through this, the very
first two or three months, Realizinghow much my life was controlled by fear.
(08:45):
Wow.
To the point where I had tofinally say, You know what, Mary?
Every single decision youmake is based in fear.
Wow.
Of what people will think of you.
That is just huge.
About what clients will think,what your family will think, what
your neighbors will think, whatthe people in the ward will think.
I mean, I was so afraidof pleasing everyone.
(09:08):
I was just making all thosedecisions based on fear.
How lost you must have felt in that time.
Just did, you know, that's whyI asked about step one, how
challenging that would have been.
Like, where do you start whenyou feel like everything is based
on who everybody else wants youto be or what they think of you?
Yeah.
Wow.
And
so I took on that mantra that thehealing starts when the hiding stops.
(09:36):
And so when you asked me beforewe began here on this podcast,
what was I willing to share?
And I, everything, whatever you ask me, Iwill share just because I'm so committed
to standing naked in front of people.
They're not necessarily physicallynaked, even though I have had to
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become comfortable with that too.
Yeah.
And basically me in front of the mirror.
Uh huh.
Yes.
Uh, but socially.
Emotionally, mentally, spiritually.
And, uh, as I accepted that nakedness,and stepped into being vulnerable,
this is the crazy part I realized,and is the number one thing that
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I want you listeners to get.
Yeah.
And that the very things that Ithought were going to push people
away from me, or make them wantto run away from me, are the very
things that drew them close to me.
Now, when I share things, you canimagine, afterwards, the number
of women that come up to me andsay, Oh, I felt that same thing.
(10:44):
Really?
That's just like me.
And they are so thrilled tohave someone they can relate
to, and then, now, particularlysomeone that made it out of that.
And, so, there's nothing greater thanto stand naked and find yourself still.
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Accepted and loved more thanyou ever have been in your life.
Mmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
A lot of wows today.
From this lady.
She is absolutely amazing.
Yes.
I know Jen had a question, um, about,um, part of that journey with Mt.
Kilimanjaro.
Yeah.
(11:24):
So, um, Switching gears a little bit.
It's such a powerful metaphor.
What was the most unexpectedlesson you learned from that?
Yeah,
there are so many lessons on Kelly andI really had to write them all down.
And that's kind of wherethe book came from.
Uh, I found it.
(11:44):
Yes.
I started this journey, as I said,at age 50 and it took me about six to
seven years to lose all the weight.
Okay.
And, uh, to start down the journeyto add to that, then the physical
fitness, uh, strength training,all those kinds of things that now
are just a daily part of my life.
(12:06):
And as I started down that road, I, I waslike, I kept looking for markers and I
found markers along the way where I couldplant my flag and say, I made it this far.
I made it this far.
And so at age 60, I was on thefoundation board at Utah Valley
University and a gentleman namedMartin Fry was on the board with us
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and he was giving a recap to the board.
of, uh, he is the only man in the worldstill to have climbed all seven major
peaks and to have sailed all seven seas.
What am I doing with my life?
And so that's exactly what I thought.
I've accomplished before,but I haven't done that.
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And I know that was not within my
comfort zone.
I was a little older.
I was only 60.
I'm just saying.
And so, but as he talked,I was just like mesmerized.
And when he sat down, he came and satnext to me, and I turned to him and I
said, Martin, I want to do something.
Something physical, because physicalhad never been a part of my life.
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I had told myself and convincedmyself that if it involved anything
physical, I'm sorry, that one'snot for me, what's another thing?
But now I was strong, and I was fit,and I, I said, I could do something.
So what is it?
I'm thinking he's goingto tell me to do some
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2K or something,
you know.
He just turned to me
and
he said,
You shall climb Kilimanjaro.
Oh, so he just kept it simple for you.
Yeah, just easy.
And I looked and I said, What?
What?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
How long do you need to get ready?
Wow.
He just didn't even blink.
He didn't say how does that soundto you or anything like that.
He just said, Here it is.
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Yeah, you shall climb Kilimanjaro.
Yeah, good.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know what that entails.
He goes, I think you're fit enough.
I think that you're strong enough.
You have enough resilience.
I think you can do it.
In fact, I know you can.
So how long do you need?
How about five
years?
And he said,
(14:17):
Mary, you're 60 and you want towait five years until you're 65?
I
go.
I was really backpedaling with fear.
Fear was really coming in.
So that's the one thing peopleneed to know is that it's not
like, Oh, I make this decision andthen it's just walking up stairs.
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You know, keep going.
There
are down and up and the plateausthat you think will never end.
And uh, I just thought,well, I need to learn 65.
And he said, alright.
He didn't question it.
He said, I'll check in with you once ayear, see how that goal's coming for you.
It's okay.
So literally every year, he would callme and say, how's that goal coming?
(15:02):
I said, I'm working on it.
But you and I reallywas not working on it.
I mean, I was just likehaving to stay steadfast.
It's far enough away.
Is there an August?
I turned 65.
Okay.
And I realized, okay, because I startedtelling people the moment I took the
goal, everyone knew I was doing this.
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That's what I'm like.
I really recommend that to people.
Tell as many people as you can.
And so I'm going to have togo back and say, my arthritis
won't let me, my back's too bad.
I don't have the money.
I'd have to say something.
Or I have to do it.
It's, it's here you to do it or you don't.
Yeah.
(15:46):
I thought, okay, if I have untilAugust of next year now, so I have
a year,
I'm, I'm gonna do this.
So the first thing I did was to, uh,look for, um, an out back country,
a guide, and, uh, talked to a lot ofpeople who had gone to Kilimanjaro.
They recommended this one.
I decided to, and so Isigned up, paid my money.
(16:08):
Okay.
Committed now.
Better go.
Yeah, and then I bought my ticketsand then I really committed.
Yeah.
You know.
And, um, in January,I waited till January.
I'm like, you know, I,I really better do this.
I better get cracking.
So, um, I made a training guide.
They have a training guide for you.
And, uh, however, true to my form, I'malways thinking, okay, okay, okay, uh huh,
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uh huh, uh huh, I got this, okay, now.
I was not looking detailedat the training with me.
You just kind of skimmed.
Yeah, got it.
Skimmed, yeah, we'll do some stairsteppers, take a hike every month,
every week, blah blah, I got that.
But When it came to the stairstepping, I did my stair stepping.
I could do an hour of stairstepping without any big issue.
(16:55):
When I got there, we were talkingthe first night and the one lady
said, Yeah, the stair steppingwas sometimes a challenge for me,
especially with that 35 pound backpack.
Did you miss that part?
That little detail.
I was supposed to climball the way to the back.
It's a little more challenging.
And then they start sharingtheir different training things
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and then one woman said, Yeah,I hiked about, uh, 250 miles.
And so I'm thinking, you know,from January it was, Oh, I've
definitely hiked 250 miles, I'm good.
She said, A month.
And I went, Oh my God.
So, I, this is what I realized.
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That moment, sitting around the campfirethe morning before we leave, and you don't
just all of a sudden train overnight,that, pay attention to the details, but
whatever your goals are, you're goingto face them again and again and again.
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And I realized that every single one ofmy fears that I thought I had overcome
were right in front of me again.
And my fears looked something like this.
That I couldn't physically do it.
Now
I'm
face to face with, canI physically do this?
I'm 15 years older than the next person.
(18:19):
Wow.
And they're so much more trained.
They had done Everest.
You know, Denali.
You know, all this.
So we got out that night beforehanging around talking about
all the mountains we've seen.
And I said, well I did do ManchuPicchu because that's at the height,
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the elevation that you can know ifyou can do killing without oxygen.
Okay.
And I could.
Yeah.
I didn't have any problems.
Had it checked.
Checked, checked.
And everybody was like, Oh, ManchuPicchu is a great training ground.
So what did you do like forsome of your big mountains?
That's it.
And so, I'm just like, In myusual mode of just BS, you know?
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And so I said, well, you probablyhaven't heard of this one, but it's
like a really big mountain and, uh, yousolo up and down and, uh, by yourself.
Sloth scrambling, a lot of hand overhand mountain, just like climbing.
Well, what's the name of it?
I said, Um, Timpanogos.
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And of course, the men are like, Ididn't bring a bottle, where is that?
That's in
Utah.
That is really funny.
So, you know, once again, I realize,okay, I have this fear of hiding,
and here I am, hiding again.
Rather than just saying, you know,I may not be as prepared as, as I
could be, but I'm going to do this.
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And ask for their support, ratherthan just like, I got this.
You wish you were like me, right?
But you did it.
But I did do it.
But I was face to face withevery one of those fears.
Like, I always had a fearof not being dressed right.
What if I showed up in jeansand everyone was in dress pants?
What if I showed up in a dressand everyone else was in jeans?
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I mean, I always worriedabout how I was dressed.
And I thought, well, here I am again.
As he's going through my backpacksaying that's not a big enough coat,
that's not this, that's not that.
Once again, Mary's not dressed right.
I mean everything that I'veever feared in my life was
right there again to look at me.
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And since then, my challengeswith those things have not
been as big, I have to say.
I really feel like I'veconquered a lot on Kelly.
But they are always with you.
Yeah,
every challenge.
I still have those moments whereWell, let's talk about right now.
(20:53):
Yeah, I'll be here.
I Thought I'm gonna go onthis podcast and I got this.
I've been on a million podcasts, butWhat if I'm not what they're looking for?
Oh, Jimmy you start.
Yeah, am I enough?
Or have I just been livingthe imposter syndrome?
(21:13):
No, no, no, no LarryNow let's take a look.
Let's look at this realistically.
Yes, truly.
And you know, look at thatrealistically as I'm driving here.
I so have this.
Yes.
What would I possibly have to hide from?
And then, but it
still is there.
Still there.
You still make that decision.
You bet.
It's a journey.
It sounds like for you and continuesto be, which I love that you mentioned
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that because, you know, I'm lookingat you and we're preparing for this.
And I told Jen, I'm like, I'm nervous.
We both are podcasters.
Like we've done this several times.
I'm like, I'm nervous.
Right.
And I do a weekly
podcast.
Yes, you do.
I'm on the camera
every week.
And yeah.
And yet driving here.
I hope I'm enough for them.
So it does pop up.
It is a journey.
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This is just kind of part of life andbeing truly your authentic self and
sitting here very vulnerable, right?
Cause I'm feeling that too.
I'm like, Oh, don't mess up.
Don't stumble over the words.
We're interviewing Mary Crass.
Like it's a big deal.
So yeah.
And so you're speaking to my
heart.
So those things definitelyare always still with us.
(22:19):
Yeah.
I'm thinking that maybe at some pointthey'll be gone, but I don't know.
They are just, I think I'm muchquicker now to recognize them.
That's one of the big keys and I'mquicker to know how to handle it,
how to step into my authenticity.
You
don't let that fear hold you back
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in control.
And I know that the biggest way to do
that
is to be vulnerable, to not hide.
And I love that lesson that it does keepcoming back because you're a little bit
more prepared the next time you do see it.
What are some other lessons thatyou've weaved into your book?
Well, I mentioned that imposter syndromeand I felt like even though I had
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had my business for 20 years, we hadbeen best of state a number of times.
We had had all these awards, blah, blah.
I still felt like that
someday they were going to comeand realize that I really wasn't
as good as I put out to people thatwere taking everything away from me.
But we still have
that.
Pretending, it all boils down,can you see how all of this boils
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down to pretending and hiding?
Yeah.
And that the moment you stop hiding,that's the moment you begin to heal.
And whenever you're hiding again,you know you're backsliding.
And
that's why that lessonis so critical to me.
Then there's the lesson of being enoughthat we always have to be dealing with.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I do think that it isthe base fear of everything.
That you might have a fear of failure.
Well, why is that?
Well, because you think you're not enough.
You might have the fear of,um, you know, being laughed at.
Well, why would people laughat you if you're not enough?
Because you're really not enough and thatyou might end up being a horrible mother.
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Well, why would you be a horriblemother unless you're not enough?
And that fear is thebase fear of all things.
You can trace that back to every singlething back to we have this fear, this
innate fear that we are not enough.
I was having dinner last night.
John and I was another couple,uh, to probably one of the most
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accomplished women that I've ever met.
That I just love, and I, well Iwalk away such a better person
when I spend time with her.
And, uh, so I always choosea word for each year.
And, uh, I don't do resolutions,I haven't done resolutions, well
since I started this 21 years ago.
Wow.
I haven't done one New Year's resolution.
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Just your word.
But I pick a word that will be my guide.
I do it too.
That will lead out in front of me.
I love it.
So we can talk about thosewords in just a minute.
And so this year my word is permission.
I want to give myselfpermission to keep singing.
Because they're, in our world today,If you're 71, your song's done.
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You're done.
Girl, look at you.
Go
sit on the shelf somewhere and be quiet.
You know what I mean?
They don't expect this
person to still
have such a song to
sing.
And I know I have songsinside of me that are unsung.
I don't want to leave this existencewithout having sung every one of them.
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But I fought it insidefor the last four months.
Should I step in the more?
Should I just like, be quiet and go away?
And I
finally decided my word was permission.
I'm going to give myself permissionto keep singing every day.
So the woman across from me, this,remember, very accomplished woman,
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I asked her what her word was.
And she is now in her late forties.
And she said, please.
Can I
be
enough?
And of course insideI'm like, what the hell?
Yeah, how can you feel that?
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Inside of me there was alsothat piece of I get you sister.
Mm hmm Yeah, let's let's stepinto that Absolutely knowing and
being assured that you are enough.
I talk a lot about that in the bookAnd I talk about Coming back from
Kilimanjaro, that it didn't mattereverything I accomplished and all the
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fears that I overcame on Kilimanjaro.
It does not matter that I losthalf of my body weight and
more than half of my body fat.
That didn't matter anymore.
Because when did that happen?
Yesterday.
And what am I bringing today?
What you bring each and every day isreally the only thing that matters.
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That's every single day,
I bring the very best that I can to mylife and the lives of those around me.
That's beautiful.
Truly.
So impactful.
Right?
Cause it, yesterday's history.
So, move forward and, and, andgive yourself permission to do so.
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Like, stop getting in yourway and, and move forward.
Do you have a word this year, Jen?
I do.
Well, I kind of toyed between a couple.
As we do.
Yeah.
One was I really just wanted to slowdown kind of like we were talking about
at the beginning wearing that badge It'slike look what I've done and right not
basing our worth on accomplishments andjust you're worthy enough Just as you
(27:49):
are and so I I kind of slowed down alittle bit But still the word I ended
up settling on was persistence like yes,I'm slowing down, but I'm not stopping
I'm still working towards those things.
My energy is just more focused, but justpersistence and so, you know, sometimes
We reach a certain goal or we reach acertain state and Maybe it feels like
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too much to keep going or you know,it's like, okay, well we did this.
We can just take a break now.
But there's still thingsthat I want to accomplish.
And so that persistence will get there.
I love that.
That persistent focus too, right?
Like to continue on.
It's not
one big push and then I'm done.
It's that
persistent looking for excellence.
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Your very best self.
I tell people all the time,
if you seek for perfection.
You will struggle and bedisappointed every day of your life.
But if you seek for excellenceand bring your best every
day, and be persistent at it,
you will find that you arein the most beautiful, loving
(28:52):
place for yourself and others.
Yeah.
What about your books?
Yeah, so same thing.
I did this exercise, you know, as,as we're just starting into the new
year and I do it every year, so Ilove that you mentioned that, Mary.
Um, I'm not really a big, uh,new Year's, new Year's resolution
girl either, but I do have a word.
Last year it was intentionalityand I wanted to be very.
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Specific with that in, um, just reallybeing intentional in all of those aspects.
I am a very, a personalitydriven Go, go, go.
Oh, really, huh?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Army or any of us.
Yeah.
We are kind of similar, uh,women here on this panel today.
Um.
But for me, last year, 2024, andas my kids are aging, I wanted
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to get really intentional with,with my time and being present.
So it's not just about my business,but it's also about my relationships.
And the reason I bring up last yearis because this year it moved me
into my next word, which is momentum.
So, really focused on the things that wereimportant and grounding in that and then
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continue that with that momentum forward.
So it kind of broughtme to my word vision.
Because clearly you have some momentumbuilding and you've been building
it and to stay persistent Yeah.
In that momentum.
Yeah.
And not rest on what you'veaccomplished in the past.
Because
that's yesterday, right?
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That's last year.
Keep that momentum andkeep that moving forward.
So I have some questions for you.
Yes.
All right.
So as a personality woman.
Yeah.
What do you think are some of thebiggest challenges that women in
their mid age range I'm still thinkingthat because I'm living to be 105.
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I love that.
I love that for all of us here.
What do you think are someof the biggest challenges?
Being a woman?
Yeah.
Well, I have to keepthis G and I can't swear.
That is, that is one of my things asI'm trying to, uh, keep it clean here.
So, um, I think the, I think the labels.
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So I will say this being labeleda villain of like, right.
I think that's one of those things withan A personality because I'm very driven.
And so I have come across that alot in life and it's less about
perfection and more about striving forexcellence, but that could be viewed as.
Being a certain derogatory term that,you know, women are often called,
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which I don't really care for.
But I think for me it's labeled.
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
A witch.
That's the G version.
You're welcome.
Um, yeah, so being thatis, is really challenging.
Um, some of the negative spins that cango on that, I don't really care for that.
Um, But not to go just in anegative direction, but also there
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is a lot of positive around that.
It's who you surroundyourself with, right?
Your social circles, other strong,powerful women, being in those
rooms where they boo you up andthey want you to be successful.
I've really learned that in 2024 iswho are you surrounding yourself with?
Who's in your circle?
I'm a total
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believer.
And I talk about that in the bookof being the sum of the five people
that you hang out with the most.
Yes, totally agree with that.
What do you have to say around that, Jen?
I think something that
I have revisited over and over,we talk about these recurring
lessons, is expectations.
I've always gotten myself Some expectationpain when things didn't work out as I
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wanted them to or hoped that they would.
And so I've had to learn flexibilityand being able to pivot and
really just accepting that whatyou have is what's best for you.
I never pictured having aboy and I have three sons.
So I.
Just from the get go have learnedhow to just readjust and be flexible
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and find the good in every situationSo, but I know that a lot of us do
tend to have these expectations.
We get our eye on theprize We have a vision.
We we know how we want it to beBut if we don't really leave room
for that flexibility, then we weare Causing pain for ourselves.
That's huge That is massive.
That's been a really reoccurring thingfor me too, being an A personality.
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It's like, I have a vision, Iwant it done, I'm striving for
excellence, I want it done this way.
Just ask my team.
They're behind the camera right now.
Hi team!
They're making faces at me right now.
Um, but truly, yeah, thatis very, very powerful.
How about you, Mary?
I'll turn that question back to you.
Um,
well I think that, Even though welive in a state that is no longer
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majority, um, from the Church ofJesus Christ of Latter day Saints, the
expectations still linger over all of us.
First of all, as women,we have that challenge.
That, um, How can I be all I want tobe and still not seen as the witch?
(34:02):
So there is that.
And when you surround yourselfwith women, like at your upcoming,
um, big launch the end of January,
uh,
you realize that you're not alone.
And I think that's huge for women.
And the perfectionism issueis still big for women.
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How to let go of that.
Putting a mold.
Yep.
And even this morning, this is just mebeing vulnerable again, Uh, I was, uh,
I was listening to the audio version ofmy book because it's just coming out and
I did this, I read, I listened to thispart where it talked about, you know, not
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being perfect and I'm like, yeah, I didwrite that and yeah, I do say that a lot.
Have I really let go of that?
Yeah.
What does that look like for me?
What would be the acceptable thingsfor you not to be perfect in?
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Are you okay to not be perfect inyour physical realm now since that
was such an accomplishment for you?
I was like, well, everything but that.
But then I'm like, I am aging.
And I have to stand in frontof the mirror and look.
Okay, I don't weigh anydifferent, but I look different.
(35:33):
I surely do.
My, I have a flat stomach.
And now it's got a little pooch in it.
I'm everyday like, whatis wrong with that?
Do I need to And then just do that.
Okay, that's just thebody of a 77 year old.
(35:54):
And are you okay with that?
Less than perfection.
Hmm.
I'm like, well, of course I, I want to be.
The other thing I think helps usalong this path that I think is facing
women is the use of the word should.
If we can just eliminatethat from our vocabulary.
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I hear women and I, and I, andI hear them say that, well I, I
really should, and I really need.
And so then I just come backand I say, can I help you
reframe that just a little bit?
Yeah.
Can we reframe that to, I could.
And instead of, I need, couldyou reframe it to, I want.
(36:36):
How does that shift inside ofyour body, your feeling, when
you say, I need to do this.
Versus, I want to do this.
Just that little reframe.
And should versus could.
Right?
Very exactly.
Yeah.
So I have to be mindful of that.
Yeah.
I wonder how often.
No, I can't hear it without, yeah.
(36:58):
I mean, I hear it.
You'll have
to hold me accountable on that.
John, you're around me a lot.
Night and day.
The shoulds and the coulds.
And the need.
And the want and the need and the watch.
And if you don't want it, whyare we putting energy there?
Yeah.
We really need so few
things.
You need air.
Water.
(37:19):
Food.
Little shelter space.
You know, if those aren'ton the need list, then uh
These are wants, andwants are inspirational.
Yeah.
Wants light up a fire inside of you.
I want to climb Kilimanjaro.
Yeah.
But I need to climb Kilimanjaroto become a Debbie Downer, right?
(37:40):
Yeah, that shifted me.
I was like, ooh, I don't want tobe obligated to do that, right?
But I want to.
That's more inspirational.
So, Mary, I want to shift a littlebit because you did mention you are
going to be our keynote speaker.
What can we anticipateat the end of this month?
And, um
(38:01):
Well, let's hope
that
I have something in my brain by then,because I've been, I've been kind of
ruminating on it, and, uh, one of thethings I've done before is to walk
into a room and just start askingwomen, so tell me why you're here.
Tell me what are you hoping to, what,see that's me, hoping, what do you
(38:22):
want to walk away with from here today?
I set my little notepad andI'm just making notes, and
then I get up and I talk.
And I think for them one of thebest pieces will be the Q& A,
yeah,
where they get to really askanything of a naked woman.
(38:43):
I'm not gonna really stepthere naked, but, you know.
I
was ready to bring a robe, just in case.
Like, you never know withMary what we're gonna get.
There you go.
But, uh, what if you really could asksomeone who had passed through your age.
Yes.
And really emerged on the other side.
(39:03):
Anything.
What would you ask her?
And so, um, I kept looking mywhole life for a mentor my age.
A bit older than I was.
And I kept thinking, I'm going to findthis woman who's in a rocking chair on
the front porch and she's, you know,got her grey bun behind her head.
(39:25):
She's going to give me all of thiswisdom on how she was an entrepreneur.
And how she built her business and howshe balanced family and career and that
she was going to now be able to, as Iwas approaching retirement, that she was
now going to be able to say, and this ishow I moved from this point to this point
(39:49):
and, and built on my value even more.
I would envision her, you know,and then one day, as I, about
a month before I retired, Irealized that woman doesn't exist.
That woman would need to be 85 or 90.
(40:12):
And there weren't a lotof women entrepreneurs.
Not in that generation, no.
And that I'd
been looking for someonewho probably didn't exist.
So, making the decision at thatpoint, I want to learn as much
as I can, so that I can be that,
for
everyone who comes behind me.
(40:34):
Thank you for giving yourselfpermission to do that.
Yeah.
Because we need you.
Yes.
Absolutely.
She keeps singing.
We need you to sing, girl.
It speaks to your bio of being atrailblazer and being that person that you
couldn't find, but being that for others.
Well, in the meantime, before ourlaunch party, how can people find
you, connect with you, learn more?
(40:54):
Uh, well, you
can, yeah.
This is on Amazon.
Unbounded from sorrow to summit.
So, it is the metaphor of my climbfrom Ankile and preparing for
my climb to the actual summit.
But in there are the lessons that Ilearned in the 15 years before I left.
Of, of waking up.
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To what was holding me back.
And then setting a plan.
So in here, I feel like it's a guide.
Yeah.
For people to become their very best self.
To let go of fear.
To become fearless.
Think of how powerful this worldwould be if more people step into
(41:37):
that vulnerable Authentic self.
Yeah, you haven't read this.
You guys absolutely need to again.
It's unbounded from sorrow tosummit Miss Mary Crafts I'm
Amazon.
You could visit my website, which is Marycrafts Inc and the crafts is with an s.
Yeah, so like arts and craftsUm, uh, Not Like the Cheese.
(42:00):
Not Like
the Cheese.
And then you
have a podcast.
And I have a podcast.
Every week it comes out.
Um, that's on YouTube andI have my own channel.
And you can visit my social media.
I invite people to follow me there.
Um, it's full of allsorts of ups and downs.
And, um, and real life.
It's not all perfect now.
(42:22):
I will say though, it's so much better.
Than last year.
As I went into thisyear, my word was dream.
And I began to dreamwhat was possible still.
And now I have permission to do it.
I love it.
But last year for me was very pivotal.
(42:43):
I, I didn't know if someone my agewould find the love of their life.
But
I dreamed it.
I dreamed it so big.
And.
Last April we were married.
Oh, congratulations!
So we've been married nine months.
Oh, you're newlywed, girl!
(43:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're marital blessed right now.
And so, that was really wonderful for me.
Just to dream.
And realize that it didn't matter.
Age does not stop you from dreaming.
Only your belief in your ageand what that says about you.
Yes.
And, um, when I went to make thisstep of permission, I also felt I
(43:28):
needed to ask John for permission.
And I told him about what I wasthinking and the alternative to that
would be just to find the love and joyof staying here and being with you.
And being with my grandchildrenand my children and travel and
all those things we love to do.
(43:50):
Is that, I mean, what, whatwould you do if you were me?
Can it be an and?
And what do you want me to do?
And he just sat back and thought for aminute and he said, I want you to sing.
Oh, that's so beautiful.
So, now that I have his permission, Ican definitely give myself permission.
(44:13):
So, what I just heard is Mary'sgoing to be singing for us.
On the 27th.
So, again, that will be onJanuary 27th, Monday, January
27th at 6pm at Novel Daybreak.
We are so excited.
Just right down the street.
Just right here in South Jordan Daybreak.
Jen,
what final thoughts do you have?
(44:35):
I just, I love the takeaway thatour, our challenges don't leave us,
but that's not a discouragement.
We can still go through them.
We can still face them.
They might become less, butthey're still going to be there.
And we're worthy no matter what.
No matter what.
Yeah,
that's
beautiful.
(44:56):
I'm going to share one more thing.
But this was a thought I hadthis morning as I read my book.
Because I'm listening to it now.
Because the audio is coming out.
And that at one point I wrote ifyou believe that you are going to be
more worthy if you accomplish a goal
(45:17):
Mmmmm
Then you're coming atthat from the wrong point.
If you believe you're going to be moreworthy for losing weight or becoming
fit, your worth did not change when youshifted to that point, and it's not going
to change when you shift away from it.
(45:38):
It is constant.
It's the one constant that'sin our life, our worth.
It's always with us.
The only thing that's shiftedis our perception of it.
And what if we could all just sit everymorning and bask in our worth and beauty?
I know you focus a lot on gratitudetoo and being mindful in that
(46:01):
gratitude I think is very helpful.
Yeah.
In that space.
Because sometimes when you'redown and out and thinking, you
know, of the past and being stuckin fear and all of those things.
That can be a really negative space andit's hard to break out of that and I found
in my own mental health struggle throughthe years, specifically postpartum,
(46:23):
gratitude was everything for me.
Just taking that moment to shiftthe thinking and recognize and
realize your worth is here.
It's constant.
Your worth is constant.
What are the things, even as badas life is, that you have To be
grateful for and sitting in thatmoment of gratitude really does shift.
(46:46):
It
does shift.
It totally does.
I think about a littlebaby coming into the world.
And would you ever say to alittle baby, just so you know,
sweetheart, you are worth nothing.
You have to prove yourself here.
You have to work hard and thenyou'll get to be worth something.
(47:06):
We never think of saying that to a baby.
And yet somewhere along the way,this world changes our perception.
We're going to shift it back.
I love it.
Come join us on January 27th.
Love it.
Thank you again.
That was so beautiful.
(47:26):
That was so beautiful.
We really appreciate you being here today.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Aw, Mary Crafts.
Mary Crafts and Women Optimizing Wellness.
Their big launch is comingup January 27th, I believe.
Mary Craft's right there.
She was talking about it.
And basically, if you, if you're yourauthentic self, you can change the world.
That's, that's some wordsthat I live by as well.
(47:48):
Uh, just be you.
Just be you.
That's all you gotta do.
If you, if you're really gonnabe you, you can change the world
because you're gonna connect withthe people who are like-minded or
in that same realm that you're inon that same wave that you're on.
You'll find those people.
Just be authentic mary crafts inc.com.
(48:09):
You can go find out more about her.
For us, it's radiodaybreak.
com, at Radio Daybreak across the board.
Don't forget your BNI, BNIBusiness Network International,
right here in Daybreak.
9 a.
m.
Wednesdays at the DCC, theDaybreak Community Center.
I know I'm throwing alot of acronyms at you.
I promise we'll have allthe info out there for you.
(48:31):
We would love to see any of youDaybreak business owners, or
the owners of businesses aroundthe area that support Daybreak.
Come to these meetings.
They are going to be beneficial.
This thing is going to blow up.
We'll see you guys nextweek at Radio Daybreak.
Hey there Daybreak.
We've got a great show for youtoday here on Radio Daybreak.
It's a special episode with Becks,Jen Banks and Michelle Orton.
Wow.
The Women Optimizing Wellness.
Now, their guest is alady named Mary Crafts.
Now, if you don't know who Mary Craftsis, let me get out my, let me get out
my, my long list of what she does.
(00:32):
She's an author, a podcaster, speaker.
Healer, entrepreneur, and just ahuge advocate for women empowerment.
Mary Crafts Inc.
I N C dot com.
That's her website ifyou want to hear more.
You go there, you're gonna findout real quick that she's a badass
woman with purpose, grace, and grit.
Her book is Unboundedfrom Sorrow to Summit.
(00:56):
You guys gotta stick aroundand listen to this interview.
She's got some amazing, justamazing advice for women.
Anybody out there though, uh, butbefore we get to that, a couple
of, a couple of announcements, man.
We're in a new studio.
We're in a new studio.
I mean, it's still in the basementand I love it though, but, uh,
my wife did want to, uh, hide abunch of googly eyes around here.
(01:17):
I just found one.
I just found one.
She wanted to hide googlyeyes in the background.
I might have to, we mighthave to go for that.
I think that'd be a kind of fun idea.
Let's go back to this,um, this farmer's market.
So you guys saw the video we put out.
We put a video out Saturday morningand there was a farmer's market.
Laura Gaylord and Empower CommunityMarkets, we're down at Novel.
(01:42):
I got my fresh fruit right here.
I still got my fresh fruit.
That's not the only onethat she's doing though.
She's doing these all the wayuntil the farmer's markets
outside get picked back up.
The next one at Novel is February 8th.
Go out there and get yourValentine's Day stuff.
You ain't gonna, the last time,you, you guys, I went to this
(02:04):
place called Lux and Whimsy.
They didn't pay me for this.
They didn't pay me, I promise.
I promise.
But,
not many places can you go and buy a bat.
I'm talking about, not a baseballbat, I'm talking about a B.
A.
T.
I got a live, well he's not aliveanymore, he's frozen up, but I
got a bat at the, at the market.
(02:26):
You guys gotta get out there, youcan find anything and everything.
I gave it to my wife, it was oneof the best presents she ever got.
Lux and Whimsy, HaleyI believe was her name.
You know what, I gottaget her on the show.
Speaking of businesses, the B.
M.
I., I'm not talking about B.
M.
I., I know it's thefirst of the year, the B.
(02:46):
N.
I.
Business Network International.
Now in daybreak.
9am on Wednesdays, we're at the DCC.
If you've got a business, youdon't have to This is your invite.
You don't have to have anybodyelse, you don't have to sign up.
Just come on in.
Let's go get to thisinterview with the Wow!
Women Optimizing Wellness and Mary Crafts.
(03:08):
We'll see you guys on the other side.
Welcome to Wow!
Women Optimizing Wellness, wherewe celebrate the incredible journey
and wisdom of inspiring women.
Oh, okay.
Is that why I'm here?
That's why you're here.
Yes.
And today we have the privilegeof speaking with you, Mary Crafts.
She is a trailblazing entrepreneur,speaker, adventurer, and
(03:30):
author of the powerful book,Unbounded, from sorrow to summit.
Her journey from overcoming fearand vulnerability to climbing Mount
Kilimanjaro and building a multimillion dollar business is a testament
to resilience and transformation.
Mary's mission is to inspireothers to embrace courage,
authenticity, and personal growth.
So good to have you here, Mary.
(03:51):
Thank you so much.
I'm honored to be
here
and to be involved
in this.
You know, your new launch of,of your retreats and so many
things that you guys are doing.
So it's really an honor to be here.
Oh, well, thank you.
We feel
the very same way about you.
We have to like really write down thatintro because there's so many things
that you have done in your world,your life and so many accomplishments.
(04:13):
So truly, thank you somuch for being here.
I'm going to start off with areally tough question, right?
Like, let's get thehard one out of the way.
Um, so.
So I really just kind of wanted todive into, um, Mary, your life has been
filled with incredible transformations.
Uh, what was the most pivotal?
Moment for you that has really shaped,um, the woman that you are today.
(04:35):
Yeah, I really, that was easy for me.
Oh, good because it happened at avery succinct moment and I remember
it as if it were yesterday, uh, it50th birthday and so now I'm 20,
I'm 71, so that's 21 years ago.
(04:56):
And that's.
Before we had cell phonesand this kind of photography.
Right.
And people were at my 50thbirthday party doing this.
And then you take the film intoKmart when there was still Kmart.
I remember.
Yes.
And you would get it developedand you would wait outside, uh,
anxiously when you would get itdeveloped and flip through them.
(05:18):
And I was sitting out thereflipping through these pictures
of my 50th birthday party.
And I came across the picture of me.
Just by myself.
And
I just started to weep.
Who's that
person?
I never saw myself as that person.
(05:40):
I don't know how to get away from that.
I'm
so lost.
I don't know how I got here, so howwould I possibly know how I got away?
To get away!
I was just seized with thisfear that this was my life.
And as I sat there longer andlonger, I realized this is my moment.
(06:05):
This is my moment
to make a turn and to shift.
Wow.
At the time, I didn'tknow what it would take.
I didn't know how long it would take me.
But I knew that I was turning.
Mm.
I could feel myself literally turning.
(06:27):
And so at that point in my life, Ihad been in my business for 20 years.
I was already a verysuccessful entrepreneur.
But, I was just burying deeperand deeper all the struggles that
I had dealt with my whole life.
And putting out here, well lookat the success of my business.
Surely I must be okay.
(06:49):
I was wearing this badge thatsaid, uh, I only sleep four hours
a night, aren't I wonderful?
You know, all the things we aswomen do to build up these badges
on us that make us okay, as opposedto dealing with what's inside.
At the time, I was 284 pounds,and just really hating myself.
(07:13):
And yet, to the outside world, Asthat photo depicted, I was full of
smiles and laughter and successful,
but so, so sad inside.
So what you saw in that photo was not justthe exterior that you're talking about.
You saw me, you saw yourself.
Yeah.
The full authenticity of who that was.
(07:36):
And all that smiling just meltedaway and I, I saw her, I saw me.
Oh, I see.
I think that's so relatable, especiallyas women, we do seek that external
validation to mean something aboutus, but really no matter how much you
chase, that doesn't fix anything inside.
Exactly.
Wow.
So very pivotal momentfor you of transition.
(08:00):
What was step one for you?
What was step one?
Well,
just the realization and acceptancethat I was going to stop hiding.
Okay.
Was huge.
Yeah,
because I felt like I'dspent my entire life hiding.
And so, you know, I would lookover here and all these things.
(08:21):
Don't pay attention over here.
Kind of like the Wizard of Oz.
Yeah, you know.
These are not the dronesyou're looking for.
I was playing this game all the timeto get people to look over here.
Just don't look here.
And
a very pivotal moment as I realized,and as I walked through this, the very
first two or three months, Realizinghow much my life was controlled by fear.
(08:45):
Wow.
To the point where I had tofinally say, You know what, Mary?
Every single decision youmake is based in fear.
Wow.
Of what people will think of you.
That is just huge.
About what clients will think,what your family will think, what
your neighbors will think, whatthe people in the ward will think.
I mean, I was so afraidof pleasing everyone.
(09:08):
I was just making all thosedecisions based on fear.
How lost you must have felt in that time.
Just did, you know, that's whyI asked about step one, how
challenging that would have been.
Like, where do you start whenyou feel like everything is based
on who everybody else wants youto be or what they think of you?
Yeah.
Wow.
And
so I took on that mantra that thehealing starts when the hiding stops.
(09:36):
And so when you asked me beforewe began here on this podcast,
what was I willing to share?
And I, everything, whatever you ask me, Iwill share just because I'm so committed
to standing naked in front of people.
They're not necessarily physicallynaked, even though I have had to
(09:56):
become comfortable with that too.
Yeah.
And basically me in front of the mirror.
Uh huh.
Yes.
Uh, but socially.
Emotionally, mentally, spiritually.
And, uh, as I accepted that nakedness,and stepped into being vulnerable,
this is the crazy part I realized,and is the number one thing that
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I want you listeners to get.
Yeah.
And that the very things that Ithought were going to push people
away from me, or make them wantto run away from me, are the very
things that drew them close to me.
Now, when I share things, you canimagine, afterwards, the number
of women that come up to me andsay, Oh, I felt that same thing.
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Really?
That's just like me.
And they are so thrilled tohave someone they can relate
to, and then, now, particularlysomeone that made it out of that.
And, so, there's nothing greater thanto stand naked and find yourself still.
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Accepted and loved more thanyou ever have been in your life.
Mmm.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
A lot of wows today.
From this lady.
She is absolutely amazing.
Yes.
I know Jen had a question, um, about,um, part of that journey with Mt.
Kilimanjaro.
Yeah.
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So, um, Switching gears a little bit.
It's such a powerful metaphor.
What was the most unexpectedlesson you learned from that?
Yeah,
there are so many lessons on Kelly andI really had to write them all down.
And that's kind of wherethe book came from.
Uh, I found it.
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Yes.
I started this journey, as I said,at age 50 and it took me about six to
seven years to lose all the weight.
Okay.
And, uh, to start down the journeyto add to that, then the physical
fitness, uh, strength training,all those kinds of things that now
are just a daily part of my life.
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And as I started down that road, I, I waslike, I kept looking for markers and I
found markers along the way where I couldplant my flag and say, I made it this far.
I made it this far.
And so at age 60, I was on thefoundation board at Utah Valley
University and a gentleman namedMartin Fry was on the board with us
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and he was giving a recap to the board.
of, uh, he is the only man in the worldstill to have climbed all seven major
peaks and to have sailed all seven seas.
What am I doing with my life?
And so that's exactly what I thought.
I've accomplished before,but I haven't done that.
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And I know that was not within my
comfort zone.
I was a little older.
I was only 60.
I'm just saying.
And so, but as he talked,I was just like mesmerized.
And when he sat down, he came and satnext to me, and I turned to him and I
said, Martin, I want to do something.
Something physical, because physicalhad never been a part of my life.
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I had told myself and convincedmyself that if it involved anything
physical, I'm sorry, that one'snot for me, what's another thing?
But now I was strong, and I was fit,and I, I said, I could do something.
So what is it?
I'm thinking he's goingto tell me to do some
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2K or something,
you know.
He just turned to me
and
he said,
You shall climb Kilimanjaro.
Oh, so he just kept it simple for you.
Yeah, just easy.
And I looked and I said, What?
What?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
How long do you need to get ready?
Wow.
He just didn't even blink.
He didn't say how does that soundto you or anything like that.
He just said, Here it is.
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Yeah, you shall climb Kilimanjaro.
Yeah, good.
Well, I don't know.
I don't know what that entails.
He goes, I think you're fit enough.
I think that you're strong enough.
You have enough resilience.
I think you can do it.
In fact, I know you can.
So how long do you need?
How about five
years?
And he said,
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Mary, you're 60 and you want towait five years until you're 65?
I
go.
I was really backpedaling with fear.
Fear was really coming in.
So that's the one thing peopleneed to know is that it's not
like, Oh, I make this decision andthen it's just walking up stairs.
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You know, keep going.
There
are down and up and the plateausthat you think will never end.
And uh, I just thought,well, I need to learn 65.
And he said, alright.
He didn't question it.
He said, I'll check in with you once ayear, see how that goal's coming for you.
It's okay.
So literally every year, he would callme and say, how's that goal coming?
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I said, I'm working on it.
But you and I reallywas not working on it.
I mean, I was just likehaving to stay steadfast.
It's far enough away.
Is there an August?
I turned 65.
Okay.
And I realized, okay, because I startedtelling people the moment I took the
goal, everyone knew I was doing this.
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That's what I'm like.
I really recommend that to people.
Tell as many people as you can.
And so I'm going to have togo back and say, my arthritis
won't let me, my back's too bad.
I don't have the money.
I'd have to say something.
Or I have to do it.
It's, it's here you to do it or you don't.
Yeah.
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I thought, okay, if I have untilAugust of next year now, so I have
a year,
I'm, I'm gonna do this.
So the first thing I did was to, uh,look for, um, an out back country,
a guide, and, uh, talked to a lot ofpeople who had gone to Kilimanjaro.
They recommended this one.
I decided to, and so Isigned up, paid my money.
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Okay.
Committed now.
Better go.
Yeah, and then I bought my ticketsand then I really committed.
Yeah.
You know.
And, um, in January,I waited till January.
I'm like, you know, I,I really better do this.
I better get cracking.
So, um, I made a training guide.
They have a training guide for you.
And, uh, however, true to my form, I'malways thinking, okay, okay, okay, uh huh,
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uh huh, uh huh, I got this, okay, now.
I was not looking detailedat the training with me.
You just kind of skimmed.
Yeah, got it.
Skimmed, yeah, we'll do some stairsteppers, take a hike every month,
every week, blah blah, I got that.
But When it came to the stairstepping, I did my stair stepping.
I could do an hour of stairstepping without any big issue.
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When I got there, we were talkingthe first night and the one lady
said, Yeah, the stair steppingwas sometimes a challenge for me,
especially with that 35 pound backpack.
Did you miss that part?
That little detail.
I was supposed to climball the way to the back.
It's a little more challenging.
And then they start sharingtheir different training things
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and then one woman said, Yeah,I hiked about, uh, 250 miles.
And so I'm thinking, you know,from January it was, Oh, I've
definitely hiked 250 miles, I'm good.
She said, A month.
And I went, Oh my God.
So, I, this is what I realized.
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That moment, sitting around the campfirethe morning before we leave, and you don't
just all of a sudden train overnight,that, pay attention to the details, but
whatever your goals are, you're goingto face them again and again and again.
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And I realized that every single one ofmy fears that I thought I had overcome
were right in front of me again.
And my fears looked something like this.
That I couldn't physically do it.
Now
I'm
face to face with, canI physically do this?
I'm 15 years older than the next person.
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Wow.
And they're so much more trained.
They had done Everest.
You know, Denali.
You know, all this.
So we got out that night beforehanging around talking about
all the mountains we've seen.
And I said, well I did do ManchuPicchu because that's at the height,
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the elevation that you can know ifyou can do killing without oxygen.
Okay.
And I could.
Yeah.
I didn't have any problems.
Had it checked.
Checked, checked.
And everybody was like, Oh, ManchuPicchu is a great training ground.
So what did you do like forsome of your big mountains?
That's it.
And so, I'm just like, In myusual mode of just BS, you know?
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And so I said, well, you probablyhaven't heard of this one, but it's
like a really big mountain and, uh, yousolo up and down and, uh, by yourself.
Sloth scrambling, a lot of hand overhand mountain, just like climbing.
Well, what's the name of it?
I said, Um, Timpanogos.
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And of course, the men are like, Ididn't bring a bottle, where is that?
That's in
Utah.
That is really funny.
So, you know, once again, I realize,okay, I have this fear of hiding,
and here I am, hiding again.
Rather than just saying, you know,I may not be as prepared as, as I
could be, but I'm going to do this.
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And ask for their support, ratherthan just like, I got this.
You wish you were like me, right?
But you did it.
But I did do it.
But I was face to face withevery one of those fears.
Like, I always had a fearof not being dressed right.
What if I showed up in jeansand everyone was in dress pants?
What if I showed up in a dressand everyone else was in jeans?
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I mean, I always worriedabout how I was dressed.
And I thought, well, here I am again.
As he's going through my backpacksaying that's not a big enough coat,
that's not this, that's not that.
Once again, Mary's not dressed right.
I mean everything that I'veever feared in my life was
right there again to look at me.
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And since then, my challengeswith those things have not
been as big, I have to say.
I really feel like I'veconquered a lot on Kelly.
But they are always with you.
Yeah,
every challenge.
I still have those moments whereWell, let's talk about right now.
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Yeah, I'll be here.
I Thought I'm gonna go onthis podcast and I got this.
I've been on a million podcasts, butWhat if I'm not what they're looking for?
Oh, Jimmy you start.
Yeah, am I enough?
Or have I just been livingthe imposter syndrome?
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No, no, no, no LarryNow let's take a look.
Let's look at this realistically.
Yes, truly.
And you know, look at thatrealistically as I'm driving here.
I so have this.
Yes.
What would I possibly have to hide from?
And then, but it
still is there.
Still there.
You still make that decision.
You bet.
It's a journey.
It sounds like for you and continuesto be, which I love that you mentioned
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that because, you know, I'm lookingat you and we're preparing for this.
And I told Jen, I'm like, I'm nervous.
We both are podcasters.
Like we've done this several times.
I'm like, I'm nervous.
Right.
And I do a weekly
podcast.
Yes, you do.
I'm on the camera
every week.
And yeah.
And yet driving here.
I hope I'm enough for them.
So it does pop up.
It is a journey.
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This is just kind of part of life andbeing truly your authentic self and
sitting here very vulnerable, right?
Cause I'm feeling that too.
I'm like, Oh, don't mess up.
Don't stumble over the words.
We're interviewing Mary Crass.
Like it's a big deal.
So yeah.
And so you're speaking to my
heart.
So those things definitelyare always still with us.
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Yeah.
I'm thinking that maybe at some pointthey'll be gone, but I don't know.
They are just, I think I'm muchquicker now to recognize them.
That's one of the big keys and I'mquicker to know how to handle it,
how to step into my authenticity.
You
don't let that fear hold you back
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in control.
And I know that the biggest way to do
that
is to be vulnerable, to not hide.
And I love that lesson that it does keepcoming back because you're a little bit
more prepared the next time you do see it.
What are some other lessons thatyou've weaved into your book?
Well, I mentioned that imposter syndromeand I felt like even though I had
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had my business for 20 years, we hadbeen best of state a number of times.
We had had all these awards, blah, blah.
I still felt like that
someday they were going to comeand realize that I really wasn't
as good as I put out to people thatwere taking everything away from me.
But we still have
that.
Pretending, it all boils down,can you see how all of this boils
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down to pretending and hiding?
Yeah.
And that the moment you stop hiding,that's the moment you begin to heal.
And whenever you're hiding again,you know you're backsliding.
And
that's why that lessonis so critical to me.
Then there's the lesson of being enoughthat we always have to be dealing with.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I do think that it isthe base fear of everything.
That you might have a fear of failure.
Well, why is that?
Well, because you think you're not enough.
You might have the fear of,um, you know, being laughed at.
Well, why would people laughat you if you're not enough?
Because you're really not enough and thatyou might end up being a horrible mother.
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Well, why would you be a horriblemother unless you're not enough?
And that fear is thebase fear of all things.
You can trace that back to every singlething back to we have this fear, this
innate fear that we are not enough.
I was having dinner last night.
John and I was another couple,uh, to probably one of the most
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accomplished women that I've ever met.
That I just love, and I, well Iwalk away such a better person
when I spend time with her.
And, uh, so I always choosea word for each year.
And, uh, I don't do resolutions,I haven't done resolutions, well
since I started this 21 years ago.
Wow.
I haven't done one New Year's resolution.
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Just your word.
But I pick a word that will be my guide.
I do it too.
That will lead out in front of me.
I love it.
So we can talk about thosewords in just a minute.
And so this year my word is permission.
I want to give myselfpermission to keep singing.
Because they're, in our world today,If you're 71, your song's done.
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You're done.
Girl, look at you.
Go
sit on the shelf somewhere and be quiet.
You know what I mean?
They don't expect this
person to still
have such a song to
sing.
And I know I have songsinside of me that are unsung.
I don't want to leave this existencewithout having sung every one of them.
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But I fought it insidefor the last four months.
Should I step in the more?
Should I just like, be quiet and go away?
And I
finally decided my word was permission.
I'm going to give myself permissionto keep singing every day.
So the woman across from me, this,remember, very accomplished woman,
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I asked her what her word was.
And she is now in her late forties.
And she said, please.
Can I
be
enough?
And of course insideI'm like, what the hell?
Yeah, how can you feel that?
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Inside of me there was alsothat piece of I get you sister.
Mm hmm Yeah, let's let's stepinto that Absolutely knowing and
being assured that you are enough.
I talk a lot about that in the bookAnd I talk about Coming back from
Kilimanjaro, that it didn't mattereverything I accomplished and all the
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fears that I overcame on Kilimanjaro.
It does not matter that I losthalf of my body weight and
more than half of my body fat.
That didn't matter anymore.
Because when did that happen?
Yesterday.
And what am I bringing today?
What you bring each and every day isreally the only thing that matters.
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That's every single day,
I bring the very best that I can to mylife and the lives of those around me.
That's beautiful.
Truly.
So impactful.
Right?
Cause it, yesterday's history.
So, move forward and, and, andgive yourself permission to do so.
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Like, stop getting in yourway and, and move forward.
Do you have a word this year, Jen?
I do.
Well, I kind of toyed between a couple.
As we do.
Yeah.
One was I really just wanted to slowdown kind of like we were talking about
at the beginning wearing that badge It'slike look what I've done and right not
basing our worth on accomplishments andjust you're worthy enough Just as you
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are and so I I kind of slowed down alittle bit But still the word I ended
up settling on was persistence like yes,I'm slowing down, but I'm not stopping
I'm still working towards those things.
My energy is just more focused, but justpersistence and so, you know, sometimes
We reach a certain goal or we reach acertain state and Maybe it feels like
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too much to keep going or you know,it's like, okay, well we did this.
We can just take a break now.
But there's still thingsthat I want to accomplish.
And so that persistence will get there.
I love that.
That persistent focus too, right?
Like to continue on.
It's not
one big push and then I'm done.
It's that
persistent looking for excellence.
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Your very best self.
I tell people all the time,
if you seek for perfection.
You will struggle and bedisappointed every day of your life.
But if you seek for excellenceand bring your best every
day, and be persistent at it,
you will find that you arein the most beautiful, loving
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place for yourself and others.
Yeah.
What about your books?
Yeah, so same thing.
I did this exercise, you know, as,as we're just starting into the new
year and I do it every year, so Ilove that you mentioned that, Mary.
Um, I'm not really a big, uh,new Year's, new Year's resolution
girl either, but I do have a word.
Last year it was intentionalityand I wanted to be very.
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Specific with that in, um, just reallybeing intentional in all of those aspects.
I am a very, a personalitydriven Go, go, go.
Oh, really, huh?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Army or any of us.
Yeah.
We are kind of similar, uh,women here on this panel today.
Um.
But for me, last year, 2024, andas my kids are aging, I wanted
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to get really intentional with,with my time and being present.
So it's not just about my business,but it's also about my relationships.
And the reason I bring up last yearis because this year it moved me
into my next word, which is momentum.
So, really focused on the things that wereimportant and grounding in that and then
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continue that with that momentum forward.
So it kind of broughtme to my word vision.
Because clearly you have some momentumbuilding and you've been building
it and to stay persistent Yeah.
In that momentum.
Yeah.
And not rest on what you'veaccomplished in the past.
Because
that's yesterday, right?
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That's last year.
Keep that momentum andkeep that moving forward.
So I have some questions for you.
Yes.
All right.
So as a personality woman.
Yeah.
What do you think are some of thebiggest challenges that women in
their mid age range I'm still thinkingthat because I'm living to be 105.
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I love that.
I love that for all of us here.
What do you think are someof the biggest challenges?
Being a woman?
Yeah.
Well, I have to keepthis G and I can't swear.
That is, that is one of my things asI'm trying to, uh, keep it clean here.
So, um, I think the, I think the labels.
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So I will say this being labeleda villain of like, right.
I think that's one of those things withan A personality because I'm very driven.
And so I have come across that alot in life and it's less about
perfection and more about striving forexcellence, but that could be viewed as.
Being a certain derogatory term that,you know, women are often called,
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which I don't really care for.
But I think for me it's labeled.
Yeah, yeah, thank you.
A witch.
That's the G version.
You're welcome.
Um, yeah, so being thatis, is really challenging.
Um, some of the negative spins that cango on that, I don't really care for that.
Um, But not to go just in anegative direction, but also there
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is a lot of positive around that.
It's who you surroundyourself with, right?
Your social circles, other strong,powerful women, being in those
rooms where they boo you up andthey want you to be successful.
I've really learned that in 2024 iswho are you surrounding yourself with?
Who's in your circle?
I'm a total
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believer.
And I talk about that in the bookof being the sum of the five people
that you hang out with the most.
Yes, totally agree with that.
What do you have to say around that, Jen?
I think something that
I have revisited over and over,we talk about these recurring
lessons, is expectations.
I've always gotten myself Some expectationpain when things didn't work out as I
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wanted them to or hoped that they would.
And so I've had to learn flexibilityand being able to pivot and
really just accepting that whatyou have is what's best for you.
I never pictured having aboy and I have three sons.
So I.
Just from the get go have learnedhow to just readjust and be flexible
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and find the good in every situationSo, but I know that a lot of us do
tend to have these expectations.
We get our eye on theprize We have a vision.
We we know how we want it to beBut if we don't really leave room
for that flexibility, then we weare Causing pain for ourselves.
That's huge That is massive.
That's been a really reoccurring thingfor me too, being an A personality.
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It's like, I have a vision, Iwant it done, I'm striving for
excellence, I want it done this way.
Just ask my team.
They're behind the camera right now.
Hi team!
They're making faces at me right now.
Um, but truly, yeah, thatis very, very powerful.
How about you, Mary?
I'll turn that question back to you.
Um,
well I think that, Even though welive in a state that is no longer
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majority, um, from the Church ofJesus Christ of Latter day Saints, the
expectations still linger over all of us.
First of all, as women,we have that challenge.
That, um, How can I be all I want tobe and still not seen as the witch?
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So there is that.
And when you surround yourselfwith women, like at your upcoming,
um, big launch the end of January,
uh,
you realize that you're not alone.
And I think that's huge for women.
And the perfectionism issueis still big for women.
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How to let go of that.
Putting a mold.
Yep.
And even this morning, this is just mebeing vulnerable again, Uh, I was, uh,
I was listening to the audio version ofmy book because it's just coming out and
I did this, I read, I listened to thispart where it talked about, you know, not
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being perfect and I'm like, yeah, I didwrite that and yeah, I do say that a lot.
Have I really let go of that?
Yeah.
What does that look like for me?
What would be the acceptable thingsfor you not to be perfect in?
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Are you okay to not be perfect inyour physical realm now since that
was such an accomplishment for you?
I was like, well, everything but that.
But then I'm like, I am aging.
And I have to stand in frontof the mirror and look.
Okay, I don't weigh anydifferent, but I look different.
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I surely do.
My, I have a flat stomach.
And now it's got a little pooch in it.
I'm everyday like, whatis wrong with that?
Do I need to And then just do that.
Okay, that's just thebody of a 77 year old.
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And are you okay with that?
Less than perfection.
Hmm.
I'm like, well, of course I, I want to be.
The other thing I think helps usalong this path that I think is facing
women is the use of the word should.
If we can just eliminatethat from our vocabulary.
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I hear women and I, and I, andI hear them say that, well I, I
really should, and I really need.
And so then I just come backand I say, can I help you
reframe that just a little bit?
Yeah.
Can we reframe that to, I could.
And instead of, I need, couldyou reframe it to, I want.
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How does that shift inside ofyour body, your feeling, when
you say, I need to do this.
Versus, I want to do this.
Just that little reframe.
And should versus could.
Right?
Very exactly.
Yeah.
So I have to be mindful of that.
Yeah.
I wonder how often.
No, I can't hear it without, yeah.
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I mean, I hear it.
You'll have
to hold me accountable on that.
John, you're around me a lot.
Night and day.
The shoulds and the coulds.
And the need.
And the want and the need and the watch.
And if you don't want it, whyare we putting energy there?
Yeah.
We really need so few
things.
You need air.
Water.
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Food.
Little shelter space.
You know, if those aren'ton the need list, then uh
These are wants, andwants are inspirational.
Yeah.
Wants light up a fire inside of you.
I want to climb Kilimanjaro.
Yeah.
But I need to climb Kilimanjaroto become a Debbie Downer, right?
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Yeah, that shifted me.
I was like, ooh, I don't want tobe obligated to do that, right?
But I want to.
That's more inspirational.
So, Mary, I want to shift a littlebit because you did mention you are
going to be our keynote speaker.
What can we anticipateat the end of this month?
And, um
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Well, let's hope
that
I have something in my brain by then,because I've been, I've been kind of
ruminating on it, and, uh, one of thethings I've done before is to walk
into a room and just start askingwomen, so tell me why you're here.
Tell me what are you hoping to, what,see that's me, hoping, what do you
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want to walk away with from here today?
I set my little notepad andI'm just making notes, and
then I get up and I talk.
And I think for them one of thebest pieces will be the Q& A,
yeah,
where they get to really askanything of a naked woman.
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I'm not gonna really stepthere naked, but, you know.
I
was ready to bring a robe, just in case.
Like, you never know withMary what we're gonna get.
There you go.
But, uh, what if you really could asksomeone who had passed through your age.
Yes.
And really emerged on the other side.
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Anything.
What would you ask her?
And so, um, I kept looking mywhole life for a mentor my age.
A bit older than I was.
And I kept thinking, I'm going to findthis woman who's in a rocking chair on
the front porch and she's, you know,got her grey bun behind her head.
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She's going to give me all of thiswisdom on how she was an entrepreneur.
And how she built her business and howshe balanced family and career and that
she was going to now be able to, as Iwas approaching retirement, that she was
now going to be able to say, and this ishow I moved from this point to this point
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and, and built on my value even more.
I would envision her, you know,and then one day, as I, about
a month before I retired, Irealized that woman doesn't exist.
That woman would need to be 85 or 90.
(40:12):
And there weren't a lotof women entrepreneurs.
Not in that generation, no.
And that I'd
been looking for someonewho probably didn't exist.
So, making the decision at thatpoint, I want to learn as much
as I can, so that I can be that,
for
everyone who comes behind me.
(40:34):
Thank you for giving yourselfpermission to do that.
Yeah.
Because we need you.
Yes.
Absolutely.
She keeps singing.
We need you to sing, girl.
It speaks to your bio of being atrailblazer and being that person that you
couldn't find, but being that for others.
Well, in the meantime, before ourlaunch party, how can people find
you, connect with you, learn more?
(40:54):
Uh, well, you
can, yeah.
This is on Amazon.
Unbounded from sorrow to summit.
So, it is the metaphor of my climbfrom Ankile and preparing for
my climb to the actual summit.
But in there are the lessons that Ilearned in the 15 years before I left.
Of, of waking up.
(41:17):
To what was holding me back.
And then setting a plan.
So in here, I feel like it's a guide.
Yeah.
For people to become their very best self.
To let go of fear.
To become fearless.
Think of how powerful this worldwould be if more people step into
(41:37):
that vulnerable Authentic self.
Yeah, you haven't read this.
You guys absolutely need to again.
It's unbounded from sorrow tosummit Miss Mary Crafts I'm
Amazon.
You could visit my website, which is Marycrafts Inc and the crafts is with an s.
Yeah, so like arts and craftsUm, uh, Not Like the Cheese.
(42:00):
Not Like
the Cheese.
And then you
have a podcast.
And I have a podcast.
Every week it comes out.
Um, that's on YouTube andI have my own channel.
And you can visit my social media.
I invite people to follow me there.
Um, it's full of allsorts of ups and downs.
And, um, and real life.
It's not all perfect now.
(42:22):
I will say though, it's so much better.
Than last year.
As I went into thisyear, my word was dream.
And I began to dreamwhat was possible still.
And now I have permission to do it.
I love it.
But last year for me was very pivotal.
(42:43):
I, I didn't know if someone my agewould find the love of their life.
But
I dreamed it.
I dreamed it so big.
And.
Last April we were married.
Oh, congratulations!
So we've been married nine months.
Oh, you're newlywed, girl!
(43:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're marital blessed right now.
And so, that was really wonderful for me.
Just to dream.
And realize that it didn't matter.
Age does not stop you from dreaming.
Only your belief in your ageand what that says about you.
Yes.
And, um, when I went to make thisstep of permission, I also felt I
(43:28):
needed to ask John for permission.
And I told him about what I wasthinking and the alternative to that
would be just to find the love and joyof staying here and being with you.
And being with my grandchildrenand my children and travel and
all those things we love to do.
(43:50):
Is that, I mean, what, whatwould you do if you were me?
Can it be an and?
And what do you want me to do?
And he just sat back and thought for aminute and he said, I want you to sing.
Oh, that's so beautiful.
So, now that I have his permission, Ican definitely give myself permission.
(44:13):
So, what I just heard is Mary'sgoing to be singing for us.
On the 27th.
So, again, that will be onJanuary 27th, Monday, January
27th at 6pm at Novel Daybreak.
We are so excited.
Just right down the street.
Just right here in South Jordan Daybreak.
Jen,
what final thoughts do you have?
(44:35):
I just, I love the takeaway thatour, our challenges don't leave us,
but that's not a discouragement.
We can still go through them.
We can still face them.
They might become less, butthey're still going to be there.
And we're worthy no matter what.
No matter what.
Yeah,
that's
beautiful.
(44:56):
I'm going to share one more thing.
But this was a thought I hadthis morning as I read my book.
Because I'm listening to it now.
Because the audio is coming out.
And that at one point I wrote ifyou believe that you are going to be
more worthy if you accomplish a goal
(45:17):
Mmmmm
Then you're coming atthat from the wrong point.
If you believe you're going to be moreworthy for losing weight or becoming
fit, your worth did not change when youshifted to that point, and it's not going
to change when you shift away from it.
(45:38):
It is constant.
It's the one constant that'sin our life, our worth.
It's always with us.
The only thing that's shiftedis our perception of it.
And what if we could all just sit everymorning and bask in our worth and beauty?
I know you focus a lot on gratitudetoo and being mindful in that
(46:01):
gratitude I think is very helpful.
Yeah.
In that space.
Because sometimes when you'redown and out and thinking, you
know, of the past and being stuckin fear and all of those things.
That can be a really negative space andit's hard to break out of that and I found
in my own mental health struggle throughthe years, specifically postpartum,
(46:23):
gratitude was everything for me.
Just taking that moment to shiftthe thinking and recognize and
realize your worth is here.
It's constant.
Your worth is constant.
What are the things, even as badas life is, that you have To be
grateful for and sitting in thatmoment of gratitude really does shift.
(46:46):
It
does shift.
It totally does.
I think about a littlebaby coming into the world.
And would you ever say to alittle baby, just so you know,
sweetheart, you are worth nothing.
You have to prove yourself here.
You have to work hard and thenyou'll get to be worth something.
(47:06):
We never think of saying that to a baby.
And yet somewhere along the way,this world changes our perception.
We're going to shift it back.
I love it.
Come join us on January 27th.
Love it.
Thank you again.
That was so beautiful.
(47:26):
That was so beautiful.
We really appreciate you being here today.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Aw, Mary Crafts.
Mary Crafts and Women Optimizing Wellness.
Their big launch is comingup January 27th, I believe.
Mary Craft's right there.
She was talking about it.
And basically, if you, if you're yourauthentic self, you can change the world.
That's, that's some wordsthat I live by as well.
(47:48):
Uh, just be you.
Just be you.
That's all you gotta do.
If you, if you're really gonnabe you, you can change the world
because you're gonna connect withthe people who are like-minded or
in that same realm that you're inon that same wave that you're on.
You'll find those people.
Just be authentic mary crafts inc.com.
(48:09):
You can go find out more about her.
For us, it's radiodaybreak.
com, at Radio Daybreak across the board.
Don't forget your BNI, BNIBusiness Network International,
right here in Daybreak.
9 a.
m.
Wednesdays at the DCC, theDaybreak Community Center.
I know I'm throwing alot of acronyms at you.
I promise we'll have allthe info out there for you.
(48:31):
We would love to see any of youDaybreak business owners, or
the owners of businesses aroundthe area that support Daybreak.
Come to these meetings.
They are going to be beneficial.
This thing is going to blow up.
We'll see you guys nextweek at Radio Daybreak.
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