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September 1, 2025 62 mins

Michael admits failure embarrasses him. Louie confesses to a codependent moment. Together they explore imperfection, relationships, and what growth really looks like.

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In this episode, he shares how failure feels embarrassing, why imperfection is so uncomfortable, and what it means to be okay with being seen as flawed. Louie and Michael debate the phrase “figure it out” — is it tough love or secretly insulting?

Michael opens up about practicing reliance and verbal processing with the people in his life, while Louie reflects on a recent codependent moment that sparks tension between them.

It’s a vulnerable and funny conversation about trying new things, embracing failure, communication in relationships, and the messy process of personal growth.

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topics: therapy podcast, mental health podcast, embracing imperfection, learning to fail, vulnerability, codependency recovery, communication in relationships, personal growth podcast, men’s mental health, self acceptance, trying new hobbies, emotional growth, unlicensed therapy

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