X-Men 97 Debuts, Venom 3 gets a Last Dance, Spider-Man 2 Canceled Multiplayer Leak, and more!

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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Superhero
Slay the show where we run down the latestsuperhero entertainment news.
We love TV, movies and superheroes,so let's talk it all out.
My name is Chris.
And my name's Mike.
And this week,we're taking a trip back to X-Men 97.
Mike one and.

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I and the nostalgiafeels are already there.
I watched a clip of them fighting at mallstoday.
You, boy, do they just nail it.
Like literally
to see that version of beast.
Like the smart version, right?
He's the intelligent version.
Excuse me.
And like,he goes into the middle of a sitting,

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almost controls it with the wires.
I'm like, this is beautiful.
Very excited for the show.
We'll talk more about ithere at the top of the show.
Venom three Gets a Last Dance by.
That's the title. Mike It's the title.
As you can see in our
show thumbnail.
Spider-Man two was canceled.

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Multiplayer footage, leaks.
This is this is a mouthful here.
Spider-Man two, the video gamefrom Insomniac canceled multiplayer game.
And we have actual minuteslong footage of this
that before it was supposed to come out,it was leaked.
So you can we'll talk about thatand you know how disappointed we are.
This really probably not happening inmore than surprisingly.

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I just clicked onone of the links in our shownotes.
Still up, still live.
Like I don't know where the DMC police areor Sony doesn't care.
So hopefully by the time you're listeningto this, you can click on those links
and still go watch and check it out.
It's weird.
Chris, Today is your literal birthday,so happy birthday,

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which is special for you, but slightlyless special.
My personal life is surroundedby lots of birthdays
around this time of year,so I don't know what was happening
nine months ago,but my brother's birthday was yesterday.
My mother in law'sbirthday was like three days ago.
My wife's
cousin, who were pretty closewith their birthday, is tomorrow.

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There's just a lot thethe population is poppin off in March.
I don't know what's. Going through my
to two of the three peopleI regularly play for and I'm with one.
His birthday was a week agoand the other one's next week
and my sister in lawbirthday was last week.
And we have we usually getour family together has like a lunch

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together to celebrateboth of our birthdays.
We never get our own individual one, but,you know, it's fine.
We'll take what we can get.
Yeah.
So shout out to all of those Marchbirthday listeners out there.
Chris is Chris's take, take all takea shot for each one of you all you have to
you have to, you have to DM usso we know how many there are.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, how about this?

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How about this will make itso doing a shot because it is also
st Patrick's Day.
What if I do an Irish car bomb instead?
yeah, I forgot it was St Patrick's Day.
I actually do really like Irish car bombs.
I mean, I'm not like a big,like novelty shot type of person,
but I feel like all of the ingredientscombined is fun.

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Before we took our one of our first tripsto Ireland a couple of years ago,
you know, you look up those kind of like,you know, do not do things
when you go to different countriesand this one's like,
do not go to a bartenderin Ireland and order an Irish car bomb.
And they werelike, I don't even know what to tell you
if you really wanted one,how you would even order it.

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Because I feel like they would know
they're going to look at youwith your American accent,
see you ordering all of the ingredientsand just like son of a bitch.
Well, I always I feel badcalling in Irish car banks are like, is
this is this an insensitive namefor this drink?
Now, is there a better ideato do this with?
I, I think it would be one of those thingswhere if they wanted to adapt the name

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because it's like their nations strife,they could do it.
But over here in America, we're just like,this is okay.
The equivalent would be likesome sort of like 911 twin
tower shot that like you take in Londonor something like that.
Yeah, that's right.
The the American terrorist shot please,if you would.
Yeah.
But it's another name for

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I just like the Irish slammeris what they can call it as well.
Okay.
But also it was madein first served in Connecticut. So
it's probablythey probably just don't like it.
It's really funny,if I had to riff on St Patrick's Day,
which I don't really have many memoriesor allegiance to, not a lot of nostalgia
for this holiday growing up.

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I don't think a lot of parentslike actively program St Patrick's Day.
There's not actually basketsfull of snakes
because when they raised themout of Ireland, I don't know.
I, I love that, I love that idea.
But since I follow a lot of like,you know, the recipe and food and cook
people on social media,they've all been like desperately

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trying to themed dishesto St Patrick's Day.
And it's I've just seen so many cornedbeef recipes of just like,
well, you we know you want corned beefand it's just like you're
talking to the wrong audience.
I think some people in the United States,you know, can get down
on some corned beef,but you're really like narrowing
your reach herethis week, trying to embrace this holiday.

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The things I will never Google corncorned beef together in the same thing.
I mean, we we'dI mean I would say the holiday did
maybe inadvertently makea very westernized version
of somethingwe probably would both very much like,
which is Irish nachos,which I believe is just loaded tater tots.
But, you know,thinking, yeah, for the holiday.

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But those are always delicious.
Well, I like a shepherd's pie.
You know,if I have to associate that. I do.
I do enjoy thatoccasionally on a cold day.
Yeah.
The it'sfunny you mentioned novelty drinks.
So yesterday we had some peoplethat had a recipe for a green champagne.
Right? Because I don't.

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You're making green beers?
Not for me. I don't drink beer.
So I was like, Well,maybe we could do some
something classy, something people enjoy.
So we got some,like brut champagne, right?
The real bubbly stuffand it said, mix it in
with like a shot of Midori,which is melon liqueur.
So we did that and boy, it is awful.
I don't recommend this.

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The melon liquor is good,the champion's good.
But the the aftertaste of the champagne.
with that was not, not pleasant at all.
I was, I was expectingthat to be a slam dunk to be honest.
Especially if you have like alike sweet tooth like we do.
But I guess too much,too much of a good thing.
Yeah.
I mean, we are later in the showtalking about the Batman film,

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which did briefly feature Irish actorBarry Cogan.
So we kind of we got, you know,
we can like we have a little bit ofmaybe Irish topics, you know, I.
Got to read, I've got a red beard and.
I'm wearing
greenshorts while we record this right now.
So I think that's about I've maxed outany sort of Irish relevance.

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I think I can do this one. Absolutely.Yeah.
But how about this?
Since this
any factory we can talk about greenbecause I want to
I want to give a shout out to my wifebecause, you know, this make
the two things.
One of the things that defines me asa person
is Halo, the video game and then X boxes.
And normally I can usually predictwhat my wife's going to get me because

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usually
poking around a month or two in advance,I like, you know, what do you want?
In my video game collecting world,people know not to buy me stuff
because like, I might already have it or,you know, might be, you know, my list.
So they're like, okay, well,we're not going to really touch that.
We'll get you somethingthat we know you don't have.
But my wife got me a launch day
Original Xbox Halo edition that came out,

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the green one, the translucent greenwith a see through green controller.
Is this halo on it? And it works.It plays games.
I immediately fired up Halo oneand it was like whenever I was looking,
looking at the save files onwho the hell are these people in here?
But absolutely blew me awaybecause I've worn one.
I've been eyeballing a brokenone for a while.
I'm like, I can swap the guts outfor my working one, right?

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Like just change the shells,
you know?
No big deal there. But she got me one,working one.
So now I'm a must have threeoriginal X boxes at work.
Mike, I've got a problem.
But the Halo one is like thethe pinnacle of this, and I'm very happy.
So I'm very, very thrilledto give her a shout out for surprising me
with something I didn't expectto get for my birthday. It's also green.

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So yeah, I mean, that is a that is a retroiconic millennial esthetic.
If I if I didn't catch itwhen you were describing it,
it's the green onethat is like translucent
where you can see through on the insideand like
they don't make them like they used to.
I loved that.
Like if I could get like an eye,like if I was a person that like,

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you know, tinkered with my iPhone, like,I know it would make it thicker
to put an entirely plastic casearound my iPhone.
It would make it more fragile and easier.
But if it was like a translucent plasticgreen, ooh, that'd be so sick.
Yeah.
The the clear craze of the ninetieswas just dying down, but
the cool thing about this is,you know, this was the first Xbox.

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This wasn't like the second Xboxor the third.
Like, nobody knew Xbox was going to beworth a damn back then or Halo, right?
Like nobody knew
in 2000, 2001 one it was going to beso like that was just a huge, a
huge thing.
You know, by the time you could get one,it was already too late. So.
So we get 123 years later.
That plays the best is just phenomenal.

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I'm very, very, very happy up for the daySo the hype me up for the show
Mike Granny we're going to get into thispretty good here from the get go.
Yeah, let's do it.
All right.
So also,if you're watching live on YouTube, don't
forget to like and subscribeSmash that like button.
I'm kidding.
We don't need to do that here.
We're not we're not YouTubers yet. Yet.
So we'll jump into X-Men 97 Miketwo Episode Premiere starts this week.

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I'm pretty hype for this.
I've heard,
you know, not enough detailed reviews,but I've heard good things from people.
But also I also tendto keep my blinders on right?
You know, rose tinted glassesfor early reviewers, but very excited
with the March 20thand wins a two episode debut on Disney.
Plus.
I know you were
you were you were just talkingabout that clip that you watched and beast

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jumping into a setting,all grabbing wires and controlling it
like this is the kind of like animationmagic trick that I bring up on the show
every once in a while where there's justcool things that you can get away with
in kind of a more fantasticalanimated world
where if I was to see

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Fraser's
version of Beast, sorry,I can't think of the actress name.
Kelsey Grammer cast Kelsey Grammer.
If Kelsey Grammer is version of the Beast,jumped into a sentinel
and just grabbed its wires to control it,we would be like, what?
This? No, that's not how technology works.
We are living in a real world.
Like if he had a computeror something in there, I could believe it.
But like in a cartoon,you could just kind of go crazy like that.

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I believe that's how it works.
So that that is the advantageyou get when you kind of lean
into the animation medium.
Yeah.
And obviously it'snothing new for like the X-Men 97
like franchise canonicallybecause they did stuff
like that back in the nineties too.
But it's just cool to see stuff like thatback.
Yeah, Yeah, it was,it was so cool to watch this,
you know, 32nd thingand seeing the X-Men team

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go up against these, these sentinelsbecause like you know, in a movie
you wouldn't believe someone'spunching a big metal robot like,
like Rogue does, right?
Or like, you know, Wolverine,
you know, his little claws
are going to do any damagelike they kind of do in a cartoon.
So it was just so cool to to watch it.
And it gave me hope.
And I feel really goodabout coming into the show this week.
And then also forthose people who are excited,

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I think even Marvel's excited.
But this could alsojust be their animation production cycle.
Season twois they're finalizing work on it, right?
Like we already knewthat was getting in season two,
another ten episodes, get the castand do the animation pipeline,
churning out whenever it comes out.
The season three is also in talks, so thatmeans, you know, it sounds like Marvel
animation.
They have a pretty confidentstance on this.

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Yeah, I'm trying to rememberthe only other thing right now
that we kind of have within the samemaybe vertical,
all with Marvel Animation, would just bewhat if correct.
Marvel Zombies is coming
but that that'sthat's somewhere in the pipeline.
The spider your friendly neighborhoodSpider-Man is in the pipeline somewhere.

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But currently out there,I think it's just what if
Yeah I saw they didn't
obviously release any footage of the show
from people that were at the premiere,but there were some clips up
where it showed just the Marvel animationkind of title crawl on the screen
and some short promo clipsthat I saw of people in the theater now,

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which is kind of cool to see that,you know,
Marvel animation tag, you know, becausewe're used to seeing Marvel Studios
before a live action movie.
And now we have like this new tagthat embraces the marvel.
And it wasn't thatbefore. What if season two.
Maybe it could.
Happen during season two?
What if?
Yeah, but now that we're seeing it infront of like another property,
it actually kind ofis starting to feel like a solidified

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kind of business unit in a way.
Like, no, we're not just we didn'tjust make up the term Marvel animation
just so we could append it to this oneshow idea.
Now it's likewe're trying to build out a whole.
You know what? You'regetting into your system over here.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly.
So that's pretty cool.
And with with this

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X-Men 97 launching comessome interesting business news as well.
I want to call this
several people sent this articleto me, the showrunner, writer,
whateveryou want to call them for, for this,
because it was kicked off backbefore their new TV model.
But it seems to be doing okay.
Beau DiMeo has left the seriesessentially a few weeks ago

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and the the VP of animations,Brad Winderbaum, I believe is his name,
you know, has
recently said to quote unquote,
break the silence,if you will, that, you know, it was
not a mutual understanding,but it was not a firing.
He was they just let him goand he's essentially deleted social media.

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He's disappeared without any fanfare.
A couple of weeks ago,
right before like again,you mentioned the red carpet this week.
Right?
The debut, all the interviewsand stuff are coming out.
He's not a part of it.
It's just like he's just been erasedfrom this essentially leading up to this.
So two things I want to point outfor people in the business sense,
if the show is bad, you don't fire themthe week before it comes out, Right?

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You want to you want to save face.
You want to you want toif the show's bad, you tell them you
suck it up and you go out there and sayit's the best thing you've ever seen.
You don't want to lose viewers.
So this is likely
either a behind the scenes issue.
Rumor is that he actually rana non nude onlyfans thing,
like where he did his own stuff,but it's like not a sexual only fans.

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But they said that he was doingsome weird stuff on there possibly
or you know, as we mentioned,possibly a lawsuit in coming towards them
because they don't just do this
this close to a show releasedwithout something bad.
Yeah it's weird.
It seems like something timingrelated, too,
because if this was an issue,it seems like you would have done this way

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sooner to keep it out of the news cycleso close to the premiere of the show
and the fact that the social mediais deleted,
you know, they're kind ofjust trying to fall off the radar.
This really doesn't seem like, he's goingto come back at Marvel with a lawsuit.
So, yeah, it seems like somethinghas kind of gone down

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interpersonally in some in some way.
So luckily,I mean, I don't want to denigrate
a creator of an animated show,but I think everyone that would that works
in animation would say
it's like one of the biggest collaborativeefforts out there.
And there's so many people that work onany singular animated project.

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It is really hard just to kind of giveone person the credit for anything.
So I would imagine if this first seasonis really good or whatever
they end up doing next without thiscreator, I think we still have
a really good shot of keeping consistsand see moving forward.
So yeah, I'mnot I'm not too worried about it.
I mean, 9x1 97 is like high profile to us.

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Yeah, but like,I can't go up to a random person
on the sidewalk and be like,Did you hear about this?
They're going to be like, First of all,you got to explain what X-Men 97 is.
They're not even going to knowwho this person is.
So the only wayare you making something up?
Do you have to make make is that.
Yeah, there's the grocery storestrek down the street.
Keep walking.
I think you can get some demo down there.Yeah.
So, yeah, I don't think this is goingto be concerning to most.

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People, right? Absolutely. Yeah.
Like I said, I think most people like,my God, the show's in trouble.
I'm like, No, they don't fire themlike this or let them go.
When the quality of the show is in troublelike that,
it's usually something else, right?
At that point,like, you know, we talked about
what's her name,
Madame Web herself letting goher talent agency after the first trailer.

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Right.
Like they shouldn'twait until the movie came out
to get rid of them like she got on that.
And then also, you know, kind ofin this world of Hollywood,
it's union based, right?
Everything in this union base.
So usually your union,you know, has your back for some things.
But, you know, it'sthis is just a bunch of red flags here.
We don't know what it is.We can't talk to the details.

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With more comes up.
We will guys
let you guys know but does notdoes that hurt my excitement for the show?
I guess at the end,
since Brad Winterbottom is out there, he'sdoing interviews and stuff like that.
He's been talking about, you know, whatit's like to work in Marvel Studios,
especially, you know, fromwhenever it originated
for the DisneyPlus streaming service content.

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And then also now with the new Bob Igerreturning and what that looks like.
So he has essentially confirmed
that they are working on a NOVA projectat Marvel Studios.
And what have I said before, Mike,
if we've heard, despite Bob Igersaying there is going to be less content,
more quality, we've heardmore project names pop up than anything,

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right? Like more rumorsabout more and more projects
than we could even shake a stick at.
Yeah,it seems like there's almost like this.
Like I'm imagining, like,some sort of, like, giant, like work table
that all of these moviesand projects are sitting on and like,
the tables just being shook nowand things are starting to like, fall off

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and it's like, it's gone.
It's it's fallen,hit the floor, it's cracked, it's broken.
It's like a game apart.
It's slamming project ideas on each other.
And if it if it bounces off,we're not doing it anymore.
Yeah, I did see this newskind of out there in my news feed
a little bit,
and I was reading through the commentsjust to see
maybe what some of the sentimentswere out there in the world.

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And one really struck me,which was back in the day,
if we would have gotten this news like,you know, pre endgame,
you know, kind of in that zoneor maybe just after Endgame,
we would have been like,Yeah, this is awesome.
I'm so excited.
I can't wait to see them do that.
Do this character justice.
Hell, I'm sure you could likego on our website and just search the key

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word Nova.
And we probably have news aroundthat time.
I bet it's tied to James Gunn too.
I bet. Yes, but yeah.
But, but now that thethe MCU is in such disarray at the moment,
like now, the sentiment in the commentswere just like, I'm nervous now.
Like you know, Novaor I think maybe Richard writer

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is maybe the characterthat's kind of being floated for this.
Like he's one of my favorite.
I'm worried what they're going to do.
So yeah,
a little trepidatious out therefor Nova fans right now because they just
they don't really know how thethe giant MCU cruise ship
is going to be floatingin the next couple of years.
And here's what I'm going to tell you.

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Here's what Brad said so marvelously.
He has said that they are more likea traditional studio now.
They're developingmore than we will actually produce.
So this lines up with everythingthat we've heard.
Like we hear they're throwing everythingin wall, right?
They're trying to develop a ghostwriter.
They're developing Nova,They're developing any and everything
that we've heard over the pastseveral months.
And, you know, well, that's concerning.

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That's a lot of things are developing.
However,it was kind of gives me that confirmation.
They're trying to develop these thingsand if it doesn't work, it
falls off the table, like you mentioned.Mike. Right.
We're not feeling it.
This is not going to be good.
We know early on we're going to remove itfrom the table kind of deal.
So that'show more studios will develop more.
And you still you didn't you didn't usedto hear anything that you would never have

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the scoops of the reports that you donow like you have for Marvel, right,
about these things being developed.
And they would be slowlyor silently killed off because,
you know, they didn't get tractionand they couldn't
find the fundingor it just wasn't working out.
They just nix them and you never hearabout it before the Internet.
So this is sounds like Nova is somethingon that table, like you mentioned,
but still has a potentialityfor not making it to the

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the filming stage,if you will, down the road.
This just seems like a
nothing is guaranteed right now.
Exactly.
So I think we're going to heara lot more things.
And I don't think we're going to see,
you know, maybe 10% of them,you know, if that maybe more, maybe less.
But I think we're going to be hearinga lot more rumors or from that.

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And honestly, the other thing he saidabout the early days of Disney Plus,
which, you know, has that's kind of whereyou mentioned the endgame, the flag.
Right.
The red flags startedpopping up after Endgame,
not quickly, but,you know, as the COVID productions
started coming throughand the rest of the Disney Plus is that
he says, I mean, frankly, in all honesty,there was a mandate to kind of create

(22:39):
as much as we could for Disney Plusas quickly as we could under Bob Chapek
leadership, if you will.
It's implied.
He didn't say it out loud.
I don't think you need names, but.
Yet that makes sense.
That's a big, big red flag,a big ick for me.
And like the quicklythat is the big part, right?

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Because it was like a double fold,just double down
in a way of like new CEO comesin, we have a new streaming service.
We need to prop this thing upas high as possible.
Then all of a sudden, on top of thatmandate, a pandemic comes through.
Everyone's at home.
All streaming companies like stock prices
are going through the roofbecause their valuations are like

(23:24):
so artificially high placedon this temporary behavior.
Well, holdall the subscribers to forward, right?
Like if you didn't if you weren'tif you weren't on the fence to begin
with, you like, we have to get it nowbecause there's nothing we can do.
And normallythey might have been the two or three year
kind of ground, but yeah, yeah.
And now it's just, it is literally

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the definition of quantity over quality.
I was thinking about this the other day.
I really can't remember the last timeI was particularly excited about anything.
Live action for Marvel.
I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy Volumethree was good.
I liked it. I had a great time.
But even I know intellectuallyin the back of my head,

(24:05):
since we talk about this stuffall the time, I was like,
this is so farremoved from the drama of the MCU
because the script was written so longago, James Gunn is like a carryover
from back when the MCU was still operatingat like seasons.
There's good momentum.
Yes. In Marvel, he knew what to do.
It's not likesomeone had to hold his hands for it.

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Yeah, exactly.
So I that one, that is like the odd that'sthe odd man out to me, to be honest.
So it's like, you know, Echo was fine,you know,
I liked it, but you don't see me like,you know, running
to the message boards, trying to theorizehow this connects to the, you know.
Well, there was like, there's just
there's just not a lot of energybehind the live action stuff.

(24:48):
And I can't really pointI can't point in echo.
Well, like I would say,maybe the release of the Marvels and Echo
being so close to each other, right?
Like, I'm like,which one really came out first?
Which one did I see? Yes.
There's too much overlap.
Even I would even say,
what if season two it was Marvel'sWhat a season two, An Echo.
I think within like a month,maybe two months of each other. Right?

(25:09):
Like this. A lot of stuff, even for us.
Who, who, who watches this and reports, itis pretty pretty regularly, I would say.
Are you not excited about Deadpool?Then just say.
I am excited about Deadpool.
I'm hoping that this is the big
this isthe big tonal shift that kind of changes.
Everyone's like perception.
If it's if it's a good movie, whichI feel like if you're a betting person,

(25:31):
if you've been reading the headlines,if you're Bruno Mars in Vegas,
if you want to winsome of your money back from MGM and start
putting some money down on Deadpool three,doing really well at the box office.
I've heard that Marvel,this is in our news,
but Marvel is so happy with the work
from what's the producersname or Levy That same.

(25:54):
Yeah, Shawn. Levy.
Shawn Levy that they want him to domore work later, that he's just like,
you know, just just kill it.I mean, like that's that's good, right?
You want to be hiredback in that kind of regard.
So yeah, it seems like they,they have faith.
Yeah, I feel like that movie Deadpoolcould be generating
some of the positive headlinesthat we haven't seen in a while.

(26:14):
Just like
Marvel finally writes the ship, Thingsfinally go back in the right direction.
Just be preparedfor those headlines at the movies. Good.
And they hopeand hopefully they can carry that momentum
because they're lucky that they don'thave anything coming up right after it.
You know, they have time to planand be more strategic.
But what we're going to be talking moreabout Deadpool here in a minute. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
And I think this is one of the productionsthat has kind of turned around, right?

(26:37):
Like, it feels like there's no I guess
there'snot a group of people running Deadpool.
It feels like it's ShawnLevy and Ryan Reynolds doing Deadpool
all that they want to do. So,so pretty, pretty excited.
But honestly,the the idea here of someone,
a very high person, I think I think Brad'sa VP of Marvel animation

(26:58):
or maybe maybe the president ofI don't know,
saying that this out the stuff out loudthat we've only been theorizing, right.
That we've only heard whispers of
is is good confirmation that we are
hopefully returning to that quality over
quantity state thatthey've said so much about, if you will.
We got we got to hope we got.

(27:20):
Well, I also include the image herebut but it's another thing is that
the return of investmentI think I'm more on Marvel has been like
five X since they bought it you knowfor how much money so four years ago.
So that's pretty good.
So I don't
I don't think it'll stop making money,but we need to, like you mentioned, right.
The ship if you will.
It sounds like they aretaking time to to do that.

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Something else that
literally is, I would say, catalystfor the return of Marvel TV on Disney.
Plus is Daredevil born Again and JonBernthal is back to tease his character
with a photo of the infamous one back
to back storybook from the Netflix series.
So, Well, it's funnythat you kind of mirror this too, with

(28:04):
what Deadpool might do for Marvel Filmsbecause it's almost the same DNA.
It's a marvel propertycoming from a different studio
transition, owning back into Disney,you know,
and they're kind of likereinvigorating it in a way.
So yeah, that that could bethe kind of like twin head of the snake.

(28:26):
You know?
Right.
And remember,I mean, the reports are like they had to
they scrappedhalf of what they film or more.
They retooled the team.
They're making their TVlike a real TV shows now rather than,
you know, applying the fixit and post approach.
So, you know, hopefullythey're never boring kicks off and
Jon Bernthal great punisher right like hehe embodies that that street level

(28:50):
punisher really really well so excitedto see him come back with this and
carry that torch forward
rumored territory
Shang-chi in the Wreckage of Timeis the rumored title.
We've talked about thisbefore, right, for the upcoming movie,
but the production is not rumoredbut set to begin in 2025 next year.
So it sounds like they're goingto kick this off.

(29:12):
Destin.
Daniel Cretton,He left The Avengers five movie to
to come back and work on this right
because of the schedulingand he wants to work on his own projects.
But rumor Mike is timetravel will be involved in Iron Fist
but most likely a previous incarnation,not Danny Rand.
So that's a clever way

(29:34):
to get around the Danny Rand,possibly Netflix.
Yeah, of it all. You just go back in timeand get a different one.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Well, I say time travel,it can be future time travel.
It wasn't it wasn't necessarily specific.
So maybe it's for weird timetravel as well, which would be interesting
to see.
Yeah, I feel like.
I have,I have like two thoughts on this film.

(29:55):
The first thought is I keep watching the
I'm just Ken performancefrom the Oscars last week,
which is great.
I watched the official versionthat's like up on YouTube.
I've seen a lot of different POVsfrom the audience
because that song was just great,an amazing performance on that stage.
But also similar is up therebecause he was

(30:16):
he was the adversarial Ken if you don'tif nobody remember is out there
so I just keep thinking of similar to he'she's kind of got this
smaller but supportive part and Barbiehe was in the wreckage in time
like I feel like this is
is really going to be somethingthat can solidify him a little bit more.
I feel like he's really closeto being a household name.

(30:36):
Not quite.
We know who he is because we love him.
He's he's close.
So I like this sequel,just like really nails it.
You know, he can kind of be one of those
maybebig megastars out there in the world.
I mean, I think he's really charming.
He's really cool.
I follow him on social media,so I'm a fan.

(30:57):
He's got the acting chops.
He's got the action chops, right.
As we saw from the ten rings.
I'm excited.
I'm excited to revisit that.
You know, when we came out of Phase four,that's
still one of the solid wins, right?
There was Black Widowwithin this really surprise hit for Sean.
She really excited, kind of revisit those
things.
You know, obviously, his banglesmight be powered by King's stuff.

(31:20):
We've always talked aboutwhere do the rings come from?
What are they doing?
Some sort of cosmic cosmic origin.
Cosmic origin thing, Multiversal origin,if you will.
You know,they're even in a miss Marvel, right?
Whenever they were talking about her,the interdimensional newer people
in that show. So yeah. That's true.

(31:40):
A lot more. Obviously we like to do.
We have the big the big title,The Wreckage of Time.
I'm just so curiousbecause we just wrapped up Loki Season
two, not too long ago and that feels likeit's alternate timelines.
They always talk about time timelines,even though it's technically multiversal

(32:01):
they they I feel like they don't reallylean on that language all that often.
So this also has time in the title.
You know, I just I just I need themto figure out what do they want to do?
Do they want to do time travel storiesor they want to do multiversal stories?
I well, they're still a little lost here.
That's fine.
I think.
I think we'll give them some timetravel on this one because that's rumor.

(32:21):
I think this will be taking placein between the two Avengers movies.
I think this is the one that will linkAvengers five to Secret Wars.
Right? A little bit.
Because if there's a wreckage of time,that implies
there's probably already problemsgoing on and he's,
you know, caught in the middle of itwith possibly the ability to withstand

(32:42):
the multiversal slash time travel effectswith maybe ten rings or something. So,
I mean, again, I think I think thesome of the things we're excited for this,
no matter what the title is atthe end of the day, to get back in there
and see those martial artsreally come alive in that.
But you mentioned titles Avengers five.
I wouldn't say this is official,but like there's no

(33:04):
longertitle Qing Dynasty on internal documents.
When I was talkingabout the return of Avengers properties,
you know, the purchase of Marvelto purchase Star Wars on the upcoming
releases Alien, including the Avengersfive and Avengers Secret Wars.
So Secret Wars still the title for six,but internally they're referring to it
as Avengers five two,taking completely off all the documents.

(33:28):
I mean,if I had to be just like an Internet
just scooper,I would just be like, it's Doom Dynasty.
The alliteration is they're ready to go.
That seems to to easily swap with Susan,I would imagine.
I think. Yeah.
It is really funny, though,to imagine my future child

(33:49):
once they
reach the age where they start, like bingewatching all these superhero movies,
they're going to get to like quantum maniaand a little bit of Loki and then like,
it was weird.
Yeah, that King villain,they just kind of came in for a TV show
in a movie,and then they just disappeared.
I wonder why.
And I'll be like, Well, well, honey,I have go listen to this.

(34:10):
Just that, you.
Know.
You listen to your dad back in the daytalk about this.
Well, yeah, I think.
But I think also if you from an outsider's
point of view,if you look at quantum mania,
you know, and Loki other than the ending,
the post-credits scene of quantummania, King is essentially gone.

(34:32):
Right? They kind of dealt with themin both shows.
So if he didn't show up,I understand that.
But I think my my, my tinfoil hat here isthey're not recasting him, right?
Everyone's like, well, recast them.
Thought that, you know, that we talkedabout Colman Domingo as a potentiality.
We've talked about his contract being,
we can't rehire, you know,they can't recast him.
Sounds likethey're not going to recast him

(34:52):
with the changein the title completely. Like if that.
Unless there's
like some sort of because we talkedabout the the mystery behind the contract,
what could or couldn't be in it for othersportraying Kang, I wonder if maybe
there's a time stipulation to it,you know, like five, six, eight years.
Like maybe there's an expiration to thatbecause there has to be at some point

(35:16):
know it has to expire.
You know,the MCU is going to is going to end
in the death of the universe of our sunexploding.
So at some point time,someone's going to have to be a king.
And I also think, you know, you know,does the bad actor
clause in the contract come out?
Right?
Like, you know, Disney has enough moneyto throw this and be like, yeah, you

(35:37):
you did bad stuff.You were convicted of it.
Even like, we can't we can't help you.
But like,
I just feel like,you know, I was like, those,
you know, just get a new king is easy.
I don't think they're goingI think they're going to retool it
and go a different directionat the end of.
Yeah, I mean, King is a great character.
We always talk about his story,Arcs and Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

(35:58):
I think it's a it's a waste not to use himat some point in time.
So we are always theorizing about thethe MCU live action,
you know, reboot in the future aftersecret wars when the universes collide
and they kind of try to restart thishuge moneymaking,
that sounds like a perfect timeto bring King back, you know So
and then that would make senseif it's like a different actor

(36:20):
and everything like that, it'd be good.
I think that the killer thing is here,
you bring in a different actor,you give him a fake name,
and at the end you reveal it's kinglike setting up stuff along the way.
You don't
you don't give him a moviewhere he's the villain
and then hope he comes backas more of a villain. Yeah.
Yeah.
You could start with the original originwhere there's just like, some deity
and like, Egypt or something.

(36:41):
Well, yeah, there's. Rama, Todd,There's a mortis.
I think Iron Lad started off as a kid.
A kid version who grows up to be,
you know,king down the road like his younger self.
Time traveled and he's using thatto set up a good future for himself.
That gives you a different actorin a different name
kind of thing who isn't technically.
KING If you wanted to.

(37:01):
I'd also say the in the,you know, quantum mania.
We've seen this before in other movieswhere especially Modok
King didn't really die.
He just went into the time engineand he's maybe outside of the universe,
like he's a beyond her.
He could come in as thebeyond her, if you want to.
in that because the beyond there'sa part of the Secret Wars stuff.
So that's how you could say

(37:23):
he's the be on there nowbecause he went outside the universe but
I don't know what's Avengers five Mike Andthat's all we got at this point in time.
Moving on Deadpool Wolverinewe were talking about earlier,
the rumor is Henry Cavill is doingthe MCU in the middle of the road.
Average Scooper has said thathe will be a Logan variant in this movie.

(37:43):
Mike I don't I would say take this
with two grains of salt because the personthis came from is very, very sketchy.
But I want to jump ahead of this.
Before people started sharinga, you know, so many good stuff, right.
25% of the timecould still be right. But like,
you know, you're going to startseeing these things on social media.
Everyone's like, HenryCAVILL'S, Wolverine, all this other stuff

(38:06):
when it's probably not.
At the end of the day, he could only beany other character in Marvel, literally.
Yeah. Also, what is the nerdy journalistic
integrity behind the phrasejoining the MCU?
Right.
You know, if it's just like a cameo, as,you know,
a Wolverine character,I wouldn't use the phrase joining the MCU.

(38:27):
That makes me think there's a long termcontract and everything involved.
I would imagine there's going to belots of fun cameos within the Deadpool
movie of just like actors playingcharacters that you wouldn't expect.
And then, you know,you never see them again because like
a Deadpool, like is an action comedyor maybe even more comedy than action.
So I'm expecting lots of gags like that.

(38:48):
Yeah, yeah. I would say actioncomedy is a pretty good thing.
And then we even saw in the trailer, like,
I never thought we'd see Pyro from X-Men,the original trilogy ever again.
And there he was. So
11, 11, 11, Henry Cavill.
You know, a lot of people like,
if he's going to join the MCU,is he a Captain Britain
who's like a Multiversal character?
Is he, you know, Hyperionwhich is another character

(39:11):
who was actually multiversalin a big part of the other
secret wars in the mid-to-late 20 tens.
So he could literally he could be anyonehe wants to play
if if they have the right role for it.
Right.
So, I mean, I I've heard
from people he might be more troublethan he's worth on set.
So maybe he doesn't need to join the MCUat all.

(39:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, maybe it is the cameo of that ratherrather than the full joining.
Like mentioned.
And we just kind of, you know, keepkeep it to that for a little bit. But
Yeah,
absolutelyYeah that's, that's the rumors right now.
So if you start seeing that stuff,take it take you take your facts from us
and be like, well,we don't know yet, but we'll get there.

(39:54):
Venom The Last Dance.
That's the title for Venom three.
Obviously it really indicates that
this is the last venomwe're going to get with Tom Hardy.
At the end of the day, it sounds likethey're this will be at Mike.
I like toI like to imagine there was another title
on the on the on the white boardthat this is the title

(40:16):
we use of Madam Web goes welland we want to keep this universe growing.
And this is the one we usewhere everything is
imploding in our spider universe.
We use this time. yes,that's kind of what it is.
That's kind of what it feels like. Yeah,
like what are they like?
You know, everyone was talking aboutmaybe they're trying to build some sort

(40:37):
of, like Sinister Six movie andbring all of these characters together.
I think they should just cut to the chase,
take what they have now,and put it in the last Venom movie.
I mean, they've already burned carnage.
That carnage, honestly kind of feels likeit would have been the better
topper for a Venom trilogy.
I mean, I don't thinkthe movies are any good anyway,
so I guess it doesn't really matter.

(40:57):
But go ahead and put Morbius
and The Vulture and,
Well, Will.
Kraven.
Will barely have kraven by now, though,
so I don't think they're really have timeto do that. But,
you know, I mean, to methis seems like Sony is like, All right,
Tom, whatever you want to do,

(41:17):
because, well, they select controllers,but like, Tom, like you only do this.
Go ahead and do it. Call it what you want.
I think he he even, like, wrotesome of the script on this one for,
you know, for the first time. So,
yeah, sure, why not?
I mean, Venom's going to do a villain'sgoing to do.
I actually again, have more faithin this than after watching Madame Web,
which is on pay per view.
By the way,did you know that it came out this week?

(41:39):
I'm Pvod for less than a monthafter it was out.
So that's exciting for peoplewho really want to watch it.
But it also moved up to October 25th, 20and 24 inches November 8th.
So that puts it in the Halloween range
for people who want to go watch a dowe monster for Halloween.
So yeah,

(42:00):
but yeah, so that's that's who I.
Well, Deadpool trailer
Deadpool was delayed to have a trailerso maybe we get a trailer.
It may like a normallike summer movie would be there.
You think I can't think ofany other Sony film
mean.
God, yeah.
I don't know what.

(42:21):
We were originally goingto have a Spider-verse movie this year,
which is laughable this point in time.
So maybe that's when they would havestarted the marketing train.
Yeah.
So yeah, we'll keep an eyeon the marketing team for this,
but given the title meansprobably posters coming next release date.
Hey we, we the we change the release.
Hey you update all the materialsreal fast.

(42:41):
We're gonna start this in a week or so.
If we get you more of this,
we'll, we'll, we'll share,but we'll, we'll keep you guys posted.
See? Kind of, kind of what thatlooks like going forward.
Spider-Man No noir.
We've talked about this before.This is not real news.
But Nicolas Cagethis week has confirmed he's
in early talks with Amazonto play the Spider-Man noir after he's

(43:01):
voiced the character in theinto the Spider-verse movie.
It's hard for me to take anythingthat Cage says seriously now.
I think he was I don't know if he wasinterviewed recently or something,
but somebody asked him like,there's a rumor that there is this film.
I can't reveal the name of the film.
One of his earlier films in his careerthat you didn't even get paid for it

(43:24):
or something like that.
And he said like, that sounds about right.That could have happened.
So like, he's like,I feel like he's just like, so detached.
I mean, obviously it was a while ago,but I would remember
if I didn't get paid for a job, I did.
I feel like that would be kind of like,
you know, stick in my side for a long timeand I'd never let it go.
Like I never got paid.
So I could see Nick Cage going like,Yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm in talks.

(43:46):
Which meant like his agentshot him a text message like,
there's this Spider-Man thing. Okay?
But my guess is that he's like, I want ayou know, he bought all those castles.
He was in debtfor a while, right? Buying all the old,
I think even was buyinglike fossils of dinosaurs or something.
Yeah, there's like a T rex had.
Yeah. Pretty iconic in his backstory.

(44:07):
Yeah.
So, like, I know he was doing that
so I could see himtrying to take anything he could get.
Right now he's not doing
I was the incredible way of massivetalent was a good movie.
Enjoyable movie.
Yeah.
And he's in his like,
he's in his, like, Renaissance right now,so I'm sure he's busy and just, you know.
He's very self,I think very self aware of himself.
Right.
Like of what people think he is now,which has come back around

(44:28):
where he was like,you know, face off and, you know,
Gordon 60 secondsera of where he was too serious. But
yeah,
we could see I mean, if he wants to do it,that's fine.
That actually probably be
get me more invested in itthan if somebody I didn't know
was playing this character.
Mike not true, because this reminds me

(44:48):
essentially,what was that, The Alfred Show Pennyworth.
Like, yeah.
We're watching Spider ManNoir without Spider Man.
So if you got a good actor, interestingactor to play it, yeah, I'll watch it.
But everything else is going like you'renot really, really aware.
All of these SpiderMan stuff on Amazon Prime
because this is like one of those primeones, right?

(45:08):
It all seems like a threat to me.
It doesn't feel like somethingexciting at the moment, so.
Well, we're going to do Silk Societywhere it's for the male audience.
Mike don't forget that. Yes.
We're doing it.
We're doing it for the men in that one.
But we'll say one more thing and SpiderMan thing here, Mike,
the video gameSpiderman two came out last year.

(45:32):
If you're interested in a ps5, for thosewho don't know the digital versions
are bundled with Spider-Man two andare on sale right now, so that'll be good.
Way to get your intro intothis experiment is great game but they
the league that happened last yeargave us a bunch of insights
into the Wolverine game and all the otherSpider-Man stuff they're working on.
So one of themthat was the rumored workout
that was canceledwas called the Great Web,

(45:53):
which was a multiplayer gameset in Spider-Man two.
And not only do we get the first trailerfor it, which shows off
Peter's Spider-Man, Miles, Spider-Man,Spider
Gwen, or Go Spider Spider-Man 29,Scarlet Spider, but also
a second trailer slash videothat confirms, like all the story mode

(46:13):
that goes along with like so much.
Gary Lowenthal VOICEOVER For this game
that is just not coming outat the end of the day,
I would love to play a multiplayerSpider-Man game in this universe.
Mike I don't know about you.It kind of refined it.
It's kind of weird.
I don't know a whole lotabout video game development and you know

(46:33):
at what point they startmaking decisions along the process.
But this kind of feels likesomebody had like an idea of like,
we should make a multiplayercomponent of this game.
You know, we got all the pieces here.
You know, the the Ps5 can finally handlethis like full city that we've built.
Let's start putting it together.
You know, somebody pitched it
and they started working on it,and then it started growing and growing

(46:55):
and growing to the point where, like,it was so big, like it seemed like it
this wasn't even going to liveon that game.
It was going to be likeits own standalone, like disc or download
that you do.
I'm sure they would have put a bunchof microtransaction in it.
Probably all would have been skins,because these trailers that we have here

(47:16):
feature a lot of different suitsthat weren't in the game.
And then all of a suddenI wonder what happened because it seemed
like the mission that you do in the gamewith all of the spider bots was going
to possibly tie into this, since they'retalking very much about the multiverse,
some of the
gameplay mechanicsof when you're on that black cat mission

(47:37):
where you're jumping throughlike portals and stuff,
it feels like maybe there would have beensomething kind of similar to that
because you see like portals featuredand like these trailers.
So I'm just curious where it went, whythe videos are still up on social media.
You know, there hasn't been like some sortof great like, let's sweep these away.
So it makes me think maybe it is coming.

(47:59):
They're just not ready for it.
Yeah, you know, maybe they'rethey're just strategically waiting
to put something out at the right time.
I'm pretty sure it's canceled. But
you know how Deadpool got made?
Someone leaked something and gotthe Internet hyped for it, and then maybe.
The project manager that was onthis was like, No, I want this out there.

(48:19):
Yeah, well, like,you know, like, hey, the on paper,
the leak, it made it sound bad, but,you know, the titles cancel it like,
I the
trailer, the footage, it's lingeringthey're not taking down like
maybe they're getting some some dataanalytics out of this right like are
are people actually into thisnow kind of thing?

(48:41):
Like, is it is it exciting to me?
I think what would make this exciting is
like the world needs to be more fullbecause
like my biggest complaint about Spider-Mantwo was felt empty at times
because you're swinging over the cityand not a lot was going on.
So if you're playing with other people,
I don't want it to be swingingnext to you.

(49:02):
Mike I can do that myself all day.
I don't need someone else there.
So like what two player things arewe doing?
Are we doing two different thingsacross the city?
Like there's two different bombsor two different things happening?
Then we have to meet up in the middle.Like, is that how it was going to play?
Because the city just feels so emptyfor two people.
If I'm going to be completelyhonest at the end of the day
that one

(49:23):
of the comments on YouTube,you know from from superfan
Jim there was a spider bite collectionside quests in the game.
Do you rememberdoing some of those in there?
Yeah, Spider suits. That was part of it.
The the theory about this is,
you know,
I hadn't really got into it too muchis that
the Scarlet Witch was a character in this,and she opened up different portals
to different universes,bringing their villains
in like the vulture rhinoor other spider villains, if you will.

(49:46):
And so that I mean,that would have been cool.
I mean, if I have to just go offof the footage that we have, right.
This is all we kind of have.
The judgeI would say this is a really clever idea
with the resources that they havefrom the previous games,
like the trailer featuresvillains, only villains that we fought.
You know, I supposethere could be a possibility of new

(50:09):
villains added to seasonal.
Seem like it's a live servicegame. Probably.
Yeah, exactly.
So like, yes.
Do I want to play more Spider-Man?
Do I want to have a reason
to jump into the city and kind ofnot just be in this like nebulous,
like post game like, like,you know, timespan.
Yeah, I think that would be pretty fun.
But I nothing in this really screams like,I got to have this.

(50:33):
It just kind of seems like,it'd be nice to have it.
Like if they,you know, back in the day old
retro games is what it feels like now.
You would just get on your video game,you would play it then
after you finish the story,wow, there's a multiplayer component.
Let's play that.
Now. It's not only has it totally flippednow they're two totally distinct items.

(50:54):
You know, like nobody even thinksabout the Call of Duty story mode anymore.
They just want to play.
They just want to play.
That's warfare.
Warzone. Yeah, like. A war zone.
Yeah,that's what it's called about Fortnite.
So Fortnite started the same way, right?
It was a single player game.
Then they added the battle royaleand now nobody ever,
nobody even knows Save the World exists.
Yeah, I feel likebecause we saw that leak of their kind of

(51:17):
their kind of time track of whatthey want to do.
This almost seems like the perfect gameto release
once they're all donewith their whole story, right?
You know, you get all of the villains,you get all of these characters models,
you have all of these assets
that you've developed like over a decade,it seems like.
Then you end it with the cherry on topwith like this multiplayer game
where you can bring all of this stuff inand like experience in a new, fun way.

(51:40):
But you know, that could run into their,you know, contract deal, right?
Maybethey won't have the ability to do that.
And I think I think honestly, to me,you know,
the other part of this is there's a DLC,there's DLC coming out for Spider-Man two.
I'm pretty sure this new one is about
a character called The Beetle,who is the daughter of Hammerhead

(52:01):
Hammerhead
Tombstone, who was itwas a big part of the game.
So you can see that in the codefor the new one.
If you get DELVECCHIO
But there's also rumor of a Carnage DLCbecause we had Venom in the main story.
So rumors of a Carnage DLC
get all the DLC out and then add this in.
Like when the game's kind of like,Come on, It's like I would say Last legs,
but we're still not close enoughto Spider-Man three,

(52:24):
you know, in 2027 or whatever it was 28
to do this, to kind of reinvigorate peopleback into Spider-Man.
Right.
Get them ready to bridge into that.
Can I help?
Miles?
Was, if you will, like,you know, Miles, I'd like that.
It was a smaller campaign.
like this would be like, hey, here'ssome story modes.

(52:44):
You already have the game.
We're going to throw it in for freeas a free update multiplayer,
but obviously we have thethe shop to support it.
If you don't buy your skins.
That's where I think this lives.
At the near the end of his lifespan to,to pump some juice into it
without having to tell the storybefore you jump into Spider-Man three
and then all your stuffcarries over with you. So

(53:06):
but sadly we will never know.
But I would love DLC for this game
if I was just know my,my core would be like, yes, give me more.
I want to go play Spider-Man two again.
I know there's new game Plus,but like that's not enough for me to
want to dive in and
like you said, bite my teethin the new content in this new city.
Along the way,
Superman is filming Mike.

(53:28):
We know this.
And one of the things that we getwhen filming are people out doing things.
And we had our first look at actressMaria Gabriela de Fria
as the engineer on set, and it looks likeshe has some CGI stuff around her waist.
There.
The black and whitethings are going to probably key out.
Maybe it's something that makes her looklike she's about to fly or she blasts.

(53:52):
Yes, some sort of support systemthat she's latched into there.
And she's like, what?Something shooting out of her hand?
I'm not familiar with the character.
I'm just I just did a quick Googleand it looks like a very about a Silver
Surfer type,but it looks like there is nanotechnology.
Like a JarvisJarvis was just silver rather than like,

(54:12):
look, look up the character Jocasta.
Jocasta to for Marvel.
And they kind of looklike the same thing like a
yeah,
Android who's silver and then everything'syeah that's.
That's kind of what it feels like.
So obviously this characteris not in any sort of like green
ah keyed out motion capture suit.

(54:33):
So this seems likethe character starts off as a human,
maybe transitionsinto a different type of character.
Yeah, her seems to be a versionin the comic books that is
seems to be a bit more modern,that is less chromed out
and maybe a little bit more like,there are some like
there's some muscle tone in this personand there's like, you know,

(54:55):
almost like an outfit that they were,but they're still kind of shiny.
So I mean, even the it'sprobably is nanobots.
They're going to keep nanobotsall over this person
and whatever is coming out of herhands, right? That's her powers.
So she's part of the authoritywho's like the superhero team in this,
which I think they're gettingtheir own movie as well in the DCU, so
she might carry over. But

(55:16):
yeah, it's cool to see people on setin their outfits.
Very nondescript,kind of no details to pull out of here,
but like, if this is happening,guess what we're going to get next?
Mike, When we get those real Supermanon set photos, we're going to be getting
probably the Green Lantern.
What's his name?
James Gunn's friend, who was

(55:37):
he was just in Guardians three.
I mean, I'm trying to.
Think he's got a lot of.
Firefly. Firefly, the guy from Firefly.
But. Nathan Fillion.
Yeah. Nathan Fillion is a Green Lantern.He was cast as a Green Lantern.
So, like,we're going to see him with the Red Bull.
Cut that Green Lantern kind of thing.
Yeah. I want to see those guys.

(55:58):
This is the least interesting characterto look at to me, but
that means I'm excitedfor more to come out right along the way
as as someone
super and Jim is coming on guest as NathanFillion people yelling at me online
because if you haven't heard,I've got allergies.
I sound like I have a coldso you got to bear with me.
Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

(56:19):
All right, moving on.
I'll show everything else.
Mike, we can talk about the Batmanto which he dropped at the top of the show
a little bit.
Yeah, we talked about it,So it's been delayed a year
to October 20, 26.
Not fun.
The rumor the reports are, Mike, Andyou let me know what you think of this.
Warner Brothers did not securethe lot space for filming in time

(56:41):
after the start delays.
That's really funny.
To be a huge tentpole superhero movie
gets delayed because like somebody didn'tget to the paperwork in time.
I feel like there's lots of storiesout there in the world of like, you know,
we forgot to renew the domain name.
So now the entire businessdoesn't exist anymore or things like that.
I want to believe this existsbecause it kind of humanizes

(57:05):
these and direlike a megacorporations that.
But it's also Warner Brothers.
They're like, We want to cut everythingand delete things to save money.
How can we get off with,you know, not spending money?
We'll just,you know, find the cheapest lot.
wait, now there's no lots to fill.
Months we we waited too long and triedto get a deal, and it didn't work out.
So that's what I mean most.

(57:28):
I mean, most time, if this is the themeof the podcast, just time,
mostly extra time does not end up hurting.
Right?
You know, a creative endeavorunless you're talking about
something that has kidsthat are rapidly aging,
that you have to update the storyto fit their ages.
But yeah,this could work out in its favor.

(57:48):
I mean, back in the day you had to waitmany, many years before your next Batman
movie. So,
maybe we'll
keep this going with whateverthird Batman movie.
I hope this at least gets a trilogy.
You know, give us a classic Batman trilogylike they did back in the day.
And. Yeah, and if you.
Look at this rate,it will come out in 2029.

(58:12):
Well enough.
And that's, you know, it's fine.
And again, I agree with you,delays are bad.
I also don't feel likerushing this. Right.
Like we've been sittingwaiting for this announcement.
This is pre James Gunn Batman.
So it's those carry over I'm looking up.
So my concern is going to be JamesGunn has his Batman braving the bolt.
Are they going to releasetwo Batman movies that year then?
you got a good point there.

(58:32):
Because they can't really wait foreveron that Batman either, Right, For the DCU.
So to me, delaying in the yearis going to hurt one of the two Batman
because this is obviously very muchnot the DCU Batman.
It's very dark and moody and dramatic,
whereas the Brave in the Boldis probably going to,
you know, is Batman with a kid who'san assassin are going to be together.
So it's going to be very different tone.

(58:55):
So I my fear is going to put
both at the same yearand people are going to be like,
Why are we getting two Batman moviesthis year?
So it didn't work for The Flash,having the Batman in it.
So I don't think happened to Batman.
Movies is going to make iteven better either, but.
well, yeah.
So there might.
There might be some adjustmentsover there.
Yeah, I would see this.
I would probably see Batman to be moved up

(59:18):
or them building a set to film moviesthen.
Right.
Like building like that.
So like, hey,we don't want to wait a year.
Maybe it'll come out in March.
It wasn't the last one in Marchor something like that.
It's like a spring movie. So yeah.
So they could probably move it upsix months and still be pretty good.
I think they
Lastly,
Jurassic World four, Jurassic Park Seven,Jurassic City,

(59:40):
whatever the title is going to be forthis is importantly secured.
Scarlett Johansson, or she's at least intalks to lead the next movie.
So I mean, they'll probably stagger
because they have to startfilming the summer to hit next year's
release date, make up
cool. I mean, that's a that's a start.
I mean, I wonder I mean, there was I mean,we knew we probably weren't

(01:00:01):
going to be getting Chris Pratt back.
Some people
wondered if,
Howard. What's right for Dallas?
Howard Bryce Dallas Howard if she wasmaybe going to return as a character.
But then also the rumors like,maybe she could just direct it.
You know, she's she's a director.
She could just direct a drastic parkmovie.

(01:00:22):
So. Well, I think it's great.
This would be isGareth Edwards directing it?
yeah.
We're going to talk about that last week.
But I wonder if,
if this is our, like, new lead or,
you know, is Scarlett goingto be holding down our Jurassic franchise
for the next like, decade or however longthey want to plan this into the future?

(01:00:46):
No, this is what you do.
This is the idea.
You everyone is so used to the waylike franchises
and all this worldbuilding works, likeeven some random people off the street
probably have some preconceived notionsthat if they saw Scarlett Johansson
in a new Jurassic Park movie,she'd sticking around for multiple ones.
You kill her in the first act,just huge movie

(01:01:08):
star eaten by a big dinosaur,and then then you just keep the movie.
They Bryan Cranston are likehe did they didn't Godzilla
which was Yeah.
Which. Is also Gareth Edwards.
Yeah.
yeah.
So he'sgot the he's got the history to it.
That would be that would be lovely.
I just just really make it feel like,yeah, I'm going to be around here

(01:01:30):
for a while.
I'm going to change this city, I'm
going to get all these dinosaurs out of itand then chomp gone.
Then it's just a cast of nobodiesthat they have to build up.
Yeah, they got to keep it.
They got to keep it, keep it cheapto fill the film of the year, you know,
have this outnext summer is really concerning for me.
You know,we mentioned Batman being delayed.

(01:01:50):
Delays are never a bad thing.
Jurassic City coming out in the year.
It's going to be a CG dreaddinosaur fest at the end of the day.
And you know, those are super fun.
We want the magic of Jurassic Park.
We've talked about this,so we're blue in the face.
I think the last time wewe talked about Scarlett Johansson's
career in general was wasn'tlike we were saying,

(01:02:11):
like she was like patching herrelationship with Disney, you know, now
that like a new CEO had, like, returnedand she had like projects and she's.
A she's producing something in the BlackWidow realm or a movie at Marvel.
Yeah, she's a producer on it. Yeah.
I wonder if maybe this is kind of like acourting from Universal of just like hey,
we'll, we won't, you know, screwyou over with, like, streaming releases.

(01:02:34):
We'll pay you what you do what you want.
Yeah.Go over to your new home of Universal.
It could be a new era. Her?
I don't.
Yeah, I don't think she's,
you know, I don't think her careeris on the back foot.
I don't think she's.She's lost anything. Right.
But do you think she's going into, like,her action star career?
Kind of like how like
the chick you played, Furiosa,
you know, was in a bunch of action moviesthere for a little bit.

(01:02:58):
So, yeah, it could be a possibility.
Like she's like, well, thiswe we've talked about this
being an extraction missionfor like a military right out of the city.
Is she like, is she going to playlike a military person?
It's like she's picked
because she's one of the bestand has to go in and be a military.
She's got to be honest.
She's got to be unassuming.
But also you got to modernize it.
She's probably going to be likethe world's most attractive, like door

(01:03:21):
dash driver that'sjust trying to deliver this this burger.
So she's happening.
Cause she's
the Yeah, because she's she's alwaysshe's always late on her deliveries.
And if she loses her five star ratings,she's got to go back to her
other job that's even worse.
And she's fighting dinosaurs.
And then as a funny as a funny gagat the very end,

(01:03:44):
she finally delivers the burgerand dude's just like, well, this is cold.
And then the dinosaur eats him.
Yeah, that'll be it.
I'm sure of 100%. Mike, you just.
You spoiled the whole movie for everybody.
So you're welcome.
I was just say her next movie
this year, she's a voice in Transformers,one that's coming out.

(01:04:06):
We're not seeing trailers on that one.I don't see what that looks like.
Then she's also a producerand acting in a romantic comedy film
directed by Greg Berlanti. So,
we'll we'll see how that kind of goes.
But yeah, I mean, if she wants to do it,that's that's great.
You know, I think everyone, everyonewants the Jurassic Park

(01:04:27):
on their resume,good or bad, make it the end of the day.
Even,
I can't think of the name.
William Macy has one literally from.
From Drastic Park three.
All right, well, that is it. This is.
Has it been a good birthday episode,Michael? It's been fun.
I've had a good time.Thank you for showing up for me.
I appreciate that, as always.

(01:04:49):
But it's
time to go get some dinnerand call it a day.
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