October 2, 2023 • 37 mins
Join us as we unfold an intriguing conversation with energetic embodiment expert, Rowan Asad. Guiding us through her personal journey, Rowan shares the fundamental shift she experienced from leading a life she thought she wanted to make a fresh start empowered by understanding human design. We unravel the secrets of harnessing personal energy, moving forward with less resistance, and stepping into a life of abundance.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Balance and Bliss podcast.
I'm your host, andrea Mondu, athree-time published author,
speaker and a lifestyletransformation coach who
believes everyone should begiven the gift of knowing how to
live their lives feelinghealthy and empowered.
Things like moving your bodyregularly and feeling it well,
taking care of your mind,setting boundaries, practicing
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self and body, acceptance,personal growth, manifestation
and everything in between.
This is not linear and it's notjust one thing.
It expands into so many areasand on this show we're going to
talk about just that.
We're all striving to live alittle more healthy and a little
more well, but what does thateven mean?
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My goal is to help you see thatyou can move from the mundane
to the magic when it comes toliving aligned and fulfilled,
and by tuning in each week youcan be assured you'll leave with
nuggets of wisdom that you canimplement into your day to day,
like right now, to help youmaximize your health, wellness
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and your life.
Now let's dive in.
Hello everybody, welcome backto another episode of the
podcast.
You know how much I love allthings spirituality and energies
and just like leaning intopractices that help you to
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really connect with yourself ona super deep level.
So my guest is here to talkabout all those things with me.
So thank you.
I was just saying before we hitrecord this episode's been a
long time coming, hey.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, it has.
But, like I said, divine timing.
I feel like now is the perfecttime to be able to talk all
these things.
Especially, you know, we justhad the full moon yesterday.
So all these emotions and theintuition is really at play, so
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, I know I think it's I already like feel I was
so there.
I had so much excitement likeleading into the conversations
that I'm, that I'm havingtonight, and this one is no
different, so why don't you?
Before I get to carried away, Iwould love for you to share
with everybody, like what you doto support people in this world
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, and then I have so manyquestions for you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, my name is Rowan Assad and I am an
energetic embodiment expert, andbasically what that means is
that I teach my clients how toreally embody their authentic
self through self care practices, through a system called human
design and just basically beingable to understand your energy
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so you can move forward andreally align with the things
that you desire.
So, living a life abundantlyand, you know, just expressing
yourself to the fullest, I think, is such a beautiful gift and
we all have.
I believe that we all came herefor a reason.
So, you know, being able toexpress yourself to the fullest
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is such a beautiful thing thatwe can all learn from.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, yeah, and when you say energy just for people
who maybe, like, aren't superfamiliar with it, like this is
how I would explain it.
Energy is not like literallyhow much energy you have to like
plow through a day, but insteadit's like how you kind of, I
think, show up in this world andyou know what people feel from
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you.
Like, you know, some peoplemight meet someone and be like,
oh, I really liked their energy,or like their vibe, or they'll
be like, oh my gosh, I reallydidn't like that person's energy
, and so that is like all thework that you do.
I'm always so curious of, likehow people got into the way that
they help people in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, well, one thing that I because I always meet
like skeptics, like people youknow, sometimes human design and
astrology and all these likewoo woo things, people are a
little put off, but I'm always,like you know, at the end of the
day, we can all agree thatevery single thing is energy.
So you know, chair, we'resitting on, money is energy.
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You know, everything is energy.
So being able to understandyour own energy can really help
you move forward.
And you know, when it comes tolike physics and things like
that not to get so like nerdyand sciency, but you know,
understanding how it flows themore that you can hone in on
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energy, then the more it canflow and like you'll just come
up against less resistance.
So I think that's what we allwant is just to be able to flow
more and just, yeah, ride thewaves of life.
But, yeah, like to answer yourquestion.
For me I was definitely.
It's interesting because Ithink a lot of people find their
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purpose either through likealignment or sometimes, when
you're really off your path,it's like you get rock bottomed
and that's kind of what happenedto me, like I was living a life
that I really thought waseverything that I would have
wanted.
I was living in Dubai by thebeach and, you know, living with
a partner that I thought waseverything on my list and you
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know all these things that I waslike wanted.
But then every day I just gotthis like niggling feeling
inside of me that I was just sounfulfilled.
And it took a lot of couragebut I essentially like burnt my
life down to the ground and leftand moved back to my hometown,
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kitchener, and that's kind ofwhere I started to rebuild my
life and I, yeah, was really ata place of just feeling really
lost, not knowing what I wantedto do.
But I felt that internal nudgeto start a business and start
like that was just what I waslike.
What is it that I want to do?
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And I want to help people.
I want to be of service, whichactually shows up in my human
design chart, which isinteresting.
But yeah, that's when I started.
I moved back into my parentsbase base minds, like that
little trope of, like you know,starting all over again.
But but yeah, that's when Ijust really just started small
and started really integratingself care practices into my
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everyday life and started doingmy skincare, started meditating
every day and that's kind ofwhere it started to build.
And then, when I discoveredhuman design, I was just like
everything clicked into placefor me.
It was a huge aha moment and Irealized I was trying to live my
life like everybody else in myfamily, which they're all
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generators, they're all anenergy type.
And I realized that when Idiscovered I'm a manifest or
energy type, I was like, whoa,this all makes sense, you know.
And that's when I just becameobsessed with human design and I
often joke, I'm like, becausemy energy type is only 11% of
the population.
So I'm like, oh, that's prettyspecial, figure out what it is
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that this all means.
And then also understanding,like my family and the people
around me.
So that's kind of where itbegan.
But here we are.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's so like I always find it so powerful when I hear
that people like literally leaninto you, use the word niggle,
which is really funny because Ihad never heard that word before
.
And last night, when I wasdoing my full moon ritual, when
I was shuffling the card thatcame out of my work, your light
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deck was trust the niggle, and Iwas like, oh, I've never heard
that.
I can imagine what that wordmeans.
Right, it's like that littlelike inner nudge.
Anyway, there's like aconnection there.
I always find it so magnificentand I think that then as a coach
or somebody who then helpsother people, like, it makes
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sense that people would look atyou and be like, okay, this work
makes sense because youliterally like lived out,
finding a way to live in a waythat really spoke to you
authentically.
So, human design I had somebody, probably about two years ago,
come on the show and speak abouthuman design and for my
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birthday last year my friendsbought me a human design book
that it was on my like Amazonwish list forever and I still
haven't dove into it as much asI would like to.
But I'm always very intriguedand I've learned I think I'm a
three, five, if does that makesense for a three five?
I'm a generator there's.
I know it's like very, verycomplex, but for people who
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aren't familiar with humandesign and and what it means,
and can you explain it a littlebit for the newbies of human
design?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah for sure.
So human design is acombination of a few different
modalities.
So the Hindu Brahmin chakrasystem, those energy centers.
It also encompasses astrology,the Kabbalah tree of life.
The Chinese I Ching is alsothere, so it's like hexagrams
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and where, basically, where thetime you were born, where all
the planets were in the sky,they create different parts of
your personality and you canlearn a lot about, like, how to
make better decisions, how tonourish your energy and you know
you can understand the rolethat you play, a lot of things
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energetically in terms of like,how you present yourself to the
world and even your purpose,like what you feel, what your
energy feels really fulfilleddoing in your life.
So, like I mentioned, I'm thecross of service, so that means
like, for me, I feel reallyfulfilled, being of service to
others and helping other people.
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So it is a very complex system.
You know there's so many, evenfor me, like I'm constantly
learning right now I'm doingcourse and money and human
design and how that really showsup.
So there's so many that it isquite complex and that's why I
think it is actually reallyhelpful to get somebody to be
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able to understand where you'reat and apply what is applicable
in that moment so that you canfigure out how to navigate.
Like I said, everything isenergy.
So understanding how to youknow, understanding your energy,
how to care for it, can help,only help you like, propel you
forward faster, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, I think that, like, really, I kind of envision
it as like a tool and there'sso many different tools that we
can use to like understand whowe are as as people and and how
we show up and why we show up incertain ways.
And you are right, it is verycomplex.
I think what's really coolabout it, too, is, from my
understanding, it's like thereis so much complex information
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that you get from it and thatyou can kind of hear it and read
it and absorb and kind of takewhat you feel like resonates
with you.
It's not like a textbook oflike this is who you are and so
this is what you should be doingx, y and z, right?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean like I think the most important thing
that I learned from human designis how to trust your own
internal compass and, you know,being able to lean in on
yourself.
I think that that's the mostimportant and most important
thing about human design.
And to use any tool.
Really, it's like I want peopleto feel empowered, I want them
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to feel like you can use thisinformation for good and, yeah,
I just think it's such a greattool and there are so many tools
out there.
But I think what I love abouthuman design is it really lays
things out in a way so you canlearn how to care for yourself.
At the end of the day and Ithink that's the most important
thing that you could take awayis like learning how to care, to
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trust and build a strongerrelationship with yourself and
and for the people that you lovethat are around you as well.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I love that.
There's so much beauty inprioritizing like building a
relationship with yourself anddoing all of these like small
things that kind of resonatewith you to try and like foster
and build that connection.
So one of the things that Iwanted to ask you about and it's
again all in the timing is Iwanted to ask you a little bit
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about shadow work, which I'm notvery familiar with, but as soon
as I I knew that that was likekind of something that you were
leaning into, I was like, oh, Iwant to ask her about this.
And then I saw on yourInstagram today that you were
literally reading a book aboutit, which is hilarious, but you
know not.
Not coincidence, I would loveto know what exactly is shadow
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work.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, so shadow work is.
It's probably the thing that Ithink creates the biggest shifts
in our lives, because you knowso much of life is about our
perspective and you know we cango into, like, the neural
pathways in our brain and how weneed to rewire them in order to
really manifest the life andthat we desire.
But shadow work is all about.
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It's basically parts ofourselves that we have tucked
away into the shadow.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's what I envisioned.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, yeah, keep going, that we like either
rejected or you were shamed for,or you know like a good example
is like somebody who has thisneed to be seen, or like they
want to be on stage and likethey love this, like performing.
But then when they were a kidthey were told, oh that's,
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that's really silly.
Like only people who do thatare like self absorbed or like
they don't care about otherpeople or whatever.
Like programming got orprojections got put on to them,
so then they will.
Every time they see somebodylike performing, they might get
triggered.
So it's almost like this, likeresponse, and yeah, it's, it's
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really interesting and it reallydoes fascinate me.
I always I'm reading new bookson shadow because I think it's
such an interesting subject, butwe have so much in our
subconscious that really rulesour conscious brain in our lives
.
So, being able to dig deep intoourselves and really see like,
okay, what are these parts ofmyself that that I've rejected,
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and how can I bring that intothe light so that I can embody
it and really come here to stepinto the full, authentic version
of of who I am.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I love that so much.
I'm very big on like helpingpeople to acknowledge the
stories that they have been toldabout who they are and what
they should look like and whatthey should be doing, and a lot
of those stories.
I'm just seeing the parallels.
A lot of those stories aretypically things that we have
been given or that wereprojected, to use your words on
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us when we were younger, or bythe media or whomever it is, and
we go into a situation andsomething happens and we react
in a certain way and then we'relike.
Some of us maybe just don'teven think twice about our
reaction, but others are likewhy did I say that?
Like why did that create such avisceral response inside of me?
(15:30):
And if you don't spend the timeto think about why that could
have been, you're going tocontinue to be on this cycle and
you're going to repeat thatloop forever.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, for sure.
It's like so much of ourreactions, the ways that we
think of judgments.
They're just so automatic andit does have a lot to do with
just societal programming,programming from the people
around us and the more that wecan just like.
The first step for any journeythat you want to go on, that you
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want to be on, is awareness,right Like you need to know
where you're at in order tofigure out what direction you
need to go in to reach yourdesires and your dreams.
So I think, yeah, the wholeconcept of shadow work is really
bringing the shadow to light soyou can release and move
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forward and live authentically.
So I think it is so important.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So maybe I intended on doing shadow work with this
podcast not actually, but like alot of the driving force for me
for this show is like havingthose conversations that people
typically wouldn't have.
It's like I'm the flashlightand I'm shining the light into
the corners of like all thosethings that we typically don't
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talk about.
But, like you said, the firststep is like awareness.
So how and I know that this islike one of the things that you
do like how do you start thatlike investigation process of
like what is going on?
For me, you know, like it'sprobably like where do you start
?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, so, yeah, I mean that's why I love human
design, because it gives youbasically this blueprint, like
this roadmap of your energy, andit's like you know, if certain
things like I can even thinkabout, for me I as a manifestor
I'm supposed to be an initiator,but that was such a difficult
thing for me to do is like goout there and like get, go after
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the things that I want becauseof fear fear of rejection, fear
of like being judged.
But, yeah, the first thing thatI always say in my clients
because I do have this newoffering where it's a one on one
session and it is actuallycalled energetic investigation
and we look at your human designchart and then we look at what
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it is that you're reallystruggling with in your life.
So where are you really hiding?
Where are you not feeling likeyou're reaching your potential?
So it could be in relationshipsand career.
And the first thing that Ialways ask is like where are you
feeling really triggered?
Because your triggers give youso much information.
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Are you feeling small?
Are you feeling like, are youfeeling overlooked?
Like where is it that you'refeeling?
Like you know that visceralresponse that can give you a lot
of really good information andhow to the area of your life
that you really need to look at.
You know.
That's why I love pairing humandesign with self care, because
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self care is all about groundingdown into your energy, caring
for yourself, really lookingwithin and seeing how you can
really release.
You know, especially after thehigh seas, full moon, and that's
what I like.
I know I was doing a lot ofreleasing and understanding
maybe some emotions that I waslike holding onto that needed to
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be let go.
So, yeah, looking at yourtriggers is a really good way to
see an area in your life, andalso relationships people.
They're the best mirror thatyou can have.
So where are you judging otherpeople?
What is something that youreally don't like about others?
Those are things that you areprobably like really judging
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yourself for, and where can youlet go of that a little bit.
So I think we don't giveourselves as much credit for how
much how we are responsible forour lives.
Our lives as they are right noware just a reflection of our
subconscious.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So and a subconscious and stuff that we like don't
often give a lot of attention tobecause our brains are like so
much on autopilot, right, likethere's so much they're like the
most complex computers thatever existed and they have so
much like coding that happensthat we don't even realize.
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And you mentioned self care acouple of times and some people
think of the word, myself,honestly included.
Like before I had really dovedeep into mindset work, like I
thought of self care as likeokay, I'm gonna go get my nails
done and do like really likeoutside kind of stuff and then
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that's gonna kind of fuel me toshow up the best that I can in
my life, when in fact, like itgoes so much more beyond that
and we're doing ourselves reallya huge disservice, obviously,
like that trickles out into thepeople around us, but we're
doing ourselves on a sole levela huge disservice when we're not
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taking that intentional time tounderstand ourselves better and
understand, like, what makes ustick and why we are the way we
are and which programming isholding us back, cause we think
like, oh, I'm just, I'm nothappy, what's beneath that?
That's really the reason forwhy we're not happy, which it
sounds like that's what you dowith reading someone's chart.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, well, I do think that a lot of the times as
human beings we get like again.
Like you said, we're in thatautopilot.
The change is really difficultfor a lot of people.
So I think you know, doingthose like cause she taking a
bath, like skincare, was a bigone for me.
But I'm so grateful for thosesmall physical things of
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self-care, aspects of self-carethat really actually allowed me
to go deeper and deeper anddeeper into the deeper methods
that I think really helped menow that are just a part of my
everyday practice for self-care.
But I think for most people,even putting on a face mask,
going and taking 10 minutes andlike taking a bath or like
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something these simple thingsthey seem a little like
superficial but they're actuallya really great like gateway
self-care to the deeper aspects.
Like it's that book AtomicHabits, like it's all about the
small shifts.
If you really want to see theprolonged change in shifts like
they start small, you don't haveto.
You know, jump off a cliff, youcan and.
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But oftentimes what happens isthat you just like go right back
to where you were.
So looking at what anddeepening that practice and that
relationship with yourself.
Like start small, do the smallthings for yourself.
Maybe that's even like makingyour bed in the morning.
It's like you're justadvocating for yourself, doing
things that are gonna make youfeel good, and it's like what
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would make your life easierlater.
What would you do for a friend?
Sometimes that analogy makesthings a little bit easier to.
It's like, yeah, it wouldtotally help my friend and like,
do something kind to them, butwould I do that for myself?
Like probably not.
So looking at yourself as yourown brand because, at the end of
the day, the relationship thatwe have with ourselves is the
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only guaranteed one we're gonnahave for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So yeah, I do this thing with myself and it's kind
of been a practice that I'veadopted like the last couple of
years.
If there's a task that, like Idon't necessarily want to do or
there's something that I'm like,oh, I don't wanna like go there
or do that, I always think like, yeah, but this is helping out
my future self.
So when I reap the benefits ofdoing these dishes tonight, this
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is like very simple.
But when I reap the benefit,like I'm gonna do these dishes
tonight and it's gonna drive menuts, but tomorrow morning when
I wake up, the kitchen is gonnabe clean and I'm automatically
going to feel like a differentenergy when I start my day than
if I wake up and I see like thedishes full of stuff.
And I love how you said it'slike the small habits, because I
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think that we're in a societythat really wants that quick fix
and that thing that's gonnalike okay, I'm feeling this way.
Tell me what I can take, what Ican do.
That's gonna make me feelbetter tomorrow and absolutely,
like you said, you can jump offthe cliff if you want.
It doesn't always work out well, but what really understanding
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that it can be and that it willbe a journey over weeks or
months or even years, like Iknow myself.
I'm still continuing to growand learn, and when you can wrap
your head around the fact thatit really never ends, then
you're almost like givingyourself permission to like.
You don't have to like get tothat finish line, because there
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is no finish line.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, and I think that's what allows you to.
At least for me, it like allowsme to have more self-compassion
for myself, because thisjourney of embodying my
authentic self, it definitelyhasn't been linear.
I definitely have had momentswhere, you know, I feel like
super confident in myself andthen, like literally two weeks
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later, I'm like I don't evenknow.
I did stand up comedy for alittle bit and now I'm like I
don't even know how I did that.
The thought of going on stagejust makes me feel like I could
never do that again.
But it's understanding the ebbsand flows of life and like
where you're at.
And I think that the one thingthat is always guaranteed is
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like, even when I'm having areally bad day, it's like
tomorrow's going to be a new dayand the lows always really just
increase my capacity for thehighs.
Again, this was in my humandesign chart.
Like I'm an emotional authority,so I really ride the waves of
the emotions and you know, for awhile I really struggled with
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that, like I struggled withdepression, and you know it's
because I was always hanging onto the highs and really trying
to reject the lows, but I justaccepted it and you know, when I
do wake up one day and I'm like, yeah, I'm not happy today and
that's okay.
So I think self-acceptance ofwhere you're at and meeting
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yourself where you're at can bereally profound, and being able
to navigate and understand howto move through the highs and
lows of life Because that's justthe journey that we're on and
it doesn't ever end right, likewe're constantly growing, we're
constantly understanding.
But I think the most importantthing and this is what I've
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learned from self-care is likebeing able to be present in the
moment, because that's what lifeis.
It's not about the next minuteor the one that just happened,
it's about what is going onright now.
And I think I've wasted so muchof my energy being either
caught up in the past or caughtup in the future, and it's like
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more you can just ground down inthe present moment.
That's truly the gift of lifeand you know that cheesy thing
it's like that's why it's calledthe present, but it really is,
you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I love that and like also, you never know what work
still has to be done and younever know when a situation or
something may trigger you andyou may think that you're fully
healed from X, y and Z, whateverit is.
I've done all the work on allof my stuff and you will still
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forever, always, and it doesn'tmean there's anything wrong with
you, but you will forever,always be in situations where
you're like oh, I feel somethingLike I thought that I had
healed from all of that stuffand it just, you know, it lends
itself to the reality of thehuman experience, but there will
always be OK cliche sayings,there will always be another
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mountain to climb.
You know what I mean.
But, like, the view at the topis always great.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sure, and I think it's like as human beings, we
are just so layered and it feelslike the more that you're doing
this healing work and reallyunderstanding yourself, you're
just peeling back more and morelayers and there's going to be
more shadows in there, there'sgoing to be more triggers in
there, and it's just if you canalways just meet yourself with
self-compassion and really say,like any person that's gone
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through all the things that I'vegone through will react the
same way, it just gives you somuch grace in being able to move
forward.
But one thing that I reallybelieve too, is like I don't
believe everything happens for areason.
But I think that we can beempowered enough and make that
choice to really give our pain apurpose, and I can say that
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that's been a huge thing in myhealing journey.
You know the painfulexperiences that I've gone
through.
They've really allowed me to beable to connect with more
people in a truly compassionateway, and I think there is a gift
in that.
And you know I wouldn't wishanything on anybody, but I do
find it really empowering to belike okay, I have the power to
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turn this into somethingpurposeful.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, I thank you for saying that.
It's so true.
There really is like always alesson in something and you know
, as you've been talking, youshared like three of my favorite
words that I often share likeat the core of the work that I
do around specifically aroundlike body image and coming to a
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place of like body acceptance,and it is just like that, like
acceptance and compassion andgrace, like all of those things
are such like there are threegreat words that you can use as
tools when you're navigatingthis world in literally any
situation.
If you meet not only others but, more importantly, yourself,
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with compassion, with acceptancefor what is and with grace
around what that is like, youreally can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So true.
And you know, I think it'sreally interesting because, as
I've moved through selfexpression and especially I love
different modes, like Imentioned, I did stand up by.
You know, fashion is a hugepart of my expression makeup,
like.
Even I just signed up for aburlesque class, like in a
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workshop.
So I'm going to be doingburlesque and I'm just really
all about finding thesedifferent ways of just
expressing myself with the worldand I want to put that energy
out there and share it with theworld.
And it's interesting because,like through fashion, I remember
growing up and just absolutelyhating my body and I remember
being, like you know, in gradefive and hating my thighs, and
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that has lived with me and grownwith me and I've tried to
really give so much love tomyself, but it always comes back
up, you know.
But then I like kind of didthis, like mindset shift and
because through time, fashion isalways changing and always
shifting and I, when I feelthose like down days, I'm like
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no, I get to decide what is infashion in my world and it's my
body, you know.
So it takes like some days areeasier than others, of course,
but I think the more you canjust give yourself love and,
yeah, it just allows you toreally express yourself in
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whatever way.
And I think the cool thing toois like the right people are
always going to see you for whoyou are, and I always say, like
not everybody has good taste, soI don't like you, that's on
that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So true, so true.
And listen, speaking of fashionand trends, I will never leave
skinny jeans behind.
Go back to the flares, like Ijust can't do it.
I love my skinny jeans.
Anyway rock on.
So how can people connect withyou if they want to work with
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you or if they want to learnmore about you?
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yes, for sure.
So I'm on Instagram, muse,selfcare, and I also have my
website, use selfcarecom.
And yeah, I'm always happy toconnect and anything
spirituality, human design, justlike embodying our true,
authentic selves.
I'm all about that and I reallydo believe that when one of us
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can really step into our power,we all are expanded by that, and
I think it's just amazing tosee people who either look like
us or we resonate with them insome capacity, seeing them rock
on.
It's just so empowering and,like I said, we see to believe,
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so we can see that that canhappen for us too.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, it feels like we have permission almost then.
If somebody else is doing it,then you can follow that, Follow
that niggle for yourself if youwant to.
So you'll have to correct me ifI'm wrong on this, but fun fact
I use the Gua Sha that I boughtfrom you at a witch market a
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couple years ago A couple yearsago maybe, like so regularly and
I often think of you like whenI'm using it.
I'm sitting in my bed likerubbing my face.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I remember that you got the Rose Quartz one.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I did.
Oh my gosh, you have such agood memory.
That's so beautiful.
You probably saw so many peoplethat day.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know, energy, it's all about energy.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yes, oh gosh, this conversation really has
literally come full circle.
Thank you so much for sharingthis time with me and for
lending your wisdom to everybodywho's listening.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on and always for
lifting other people up, so Ijust love it so much and keep on
going.
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Thank you so much, everybody.
I hope you have a beautifulrest of your day and, until next
week, stay well.
Thanks so much for being here.
I hope you're leaving with afull heart, some inspiration, or
you're feeling the kick in thebutt you felt like you needed.
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Thanks for listening today andstay well.
Welcome to the Balance and Bliss podcast.
I'm your host, andrea Mondu, athree-time published author,
speaker and a lifestyletransformation coach who
believes everyone should begiven the gift of knowing how to
live their lives feelinghealthy and empowered.
Things like moving your bodyregularly and feeling it well,
taking care of your mind,setting boundaries, practicing
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and everything in between.
This is not linear and it's notjust one thing.
It expands into so many areasand on this show we're going to
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We're all striving to live alittle more healthy and a little
more well, but what does thateven mean?
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to the magic when it comes toliving aligned and fulfilled,
and by tuning in each week youcan be assured you'll leave with
nuggets of wisdom that you canimplement into your day to day,
like right now, to help youmaximize your health, wellness
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and your life.
Now let's dive in.
Hello everybody, welcome backto another episode of the
podcast.
You know how much I love allthings spirituality and energies
and just like leaning intopractices that help you to
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really connect with yourself ona super deep level.
So my guest is here to talkabout all those things with me.
So thank you.
I was just saying before we hitrecord this episode's been a
long time coming, hey.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, it has.
But, like I said, divine timing.
I feel like now is the perfecttime to be able to talk all
these things.
Especially, you know, we justhad the full moon yesterday.
So all these emotions and theintuition is really at play, so
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Yeah, I know I think it's I already like feel I was
so there.
I had so much excitement likeleading into the conversations
that I'm, that I'm havingtonight, and this one is no
different, so why don't you?
Before I get to carried away, Iwould love for you to share
with everybody, like what you doto support people in this world
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, and then I have so manyquestions for you.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, my name is Rowan Assad and I am an
energetic embodiment expert, andbasically what that means is
that I teach my clients how toreally embody their authentic
self through self care practices, through a system called human
design and just basically beingable to understand your energy
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so you can move forward andreally align with the things
that you desire.
So, living a life abundantlyand, you know, just expressing
yourself to the fullest, I think, is such a beautiful gift and
we all have.
I believe that we all came herefor a reason.
So, you know, being able toexpress yourself to the fullest
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is such a beautiful thing thatwe can all learn from.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
So, yeah, and when you say energy just for people
who maybe, like, aren't superfamiliar with it, like this is
how I would explain it.
Energy is not like literallyhow much energy you have to like
plow through a day, but insteadit's like how you kind of, I
think, show up in this world andyou know what people feel from
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you.
Like, you know, some peoplemight meet someone and be like,
oh, I really liked their energy,or like their vibe, or they'll
be like, oh my gosh, I reallydidn't like that person's energy
, and so that is like all thework that you do.
I'm always so curious of, likehow people got into the way that
they help people in the world.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
Yeah, well, one thing that I because I always meet
like skeptics, like people youknow, sometimes human design and
astrology and all these likewoo woo things, people are a
little put off, but I'm always,like you know, at the end of the
day, we can all agree thatevery single thing is energy.
So you know, chair, we'resitting on, money is energy.
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You know, everything is energy.
So being able to understandyour own energy can really help
you move forward.
And you know, when it comes tolike physics and things like
that not to get so like nerdyand sciency, but you know,
understanding how it flows themore that you can hone in on
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energy, then the more it canflow and like you'll just come
up against less resistance.
So I think that's what we allwant is just to be able to flow
more and just, yeah, ride thewaves of life.
But, yeah, like to answer yourquestion.
For me I was definitely.
It's interesting because Ithink a lot of people find their
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purpose either through likealignment or sometimes, when
you're really off your path,it's like you get rock bottomed
and that's kind of what happenedto me, like I was living a life
that I really thought waseverything that I would have
wanted.
I was living in Dubai by thebeach and, you know, living with
a partner that I thought waseverything on my list and you
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know all these things that I waslike wanted.
But then every day I just gotthis like niggling feeling
inside of me that I was just sounfulfilled.
And it took a lot of couragebut I essentially like burnt my
life down to the ground and leftand moved back to my hometown,
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kitchener, and that's kind ofwhere I started to rebuild my
life and I, yeah, was really ata place of just feeling really
lost, not knowing what I wantedto do.
But I felt that internal nudgeto start a business and start
like that was just what I waslike.
What is it that I want to do?
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And I want to help people.
I want to be of service, whichactually shows up in my human
design chart, which isinteresting.
But yeah, that's when I started.
I moved back into my parentsbase base minds, like that
little trope of, like you know,starting all over again.
But but yeah, that's when Ijust really just started small
and started really integratingself care practices into my
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everyday life and started doingmy skincare, started meditating
every day and that's kind ofwhere it started to build.
And then, when I discoveredhuman design, I was just like
everything clicked into placefor me.
It was a huge aha moment and Irealized I was trying to live my
life like everybody else in myfamily, which they're all
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generators, they're all anenergy type.
And I realized that when Idiscovered I'm a manifest or
energy type, I was like, whoa,this all makes sense, you know.
And that's when I just becameobsessed with human design and I
often joke, I'm like, becausemy energy type is only 11% of
the population.
So I'm like, oh, that's prettyspecial, figure out what it is
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that this all means.
And then also understanding,like my family and the people
around me.
So that's kind of where itbegan.
But here we are.
That's so cool.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
It's so like I always find it so powerful when I hear
that people like literally leaninto you, use the word niggle,
which is really funny because Ihad never heard that word before
.
And last night, when I wasdoing my full moon ritual, when
I was shuffling the card thatcame out of my work, your light
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deck was trust the niggle, and Iwas like, oh, I've never heard
that.
I can imagine what that wordmeans.
Right, it's like that littlelike inner nudge.
Anyway, there's like aconnection there.
I always find it so magnificentand I think that then as a coach
or somebody who then helpsother people, like, it makes
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sense that people would look atyou and be like, okay, this work
makes sense because youliterally like lived out,
finding a way to live in a waythat really spoke to you
authentically.
So, human design I had somebody, probably about two years ago,
come on the show and speak abouthuman design and for my
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birthday last year my friendsbought me a human design book
that it was on my like Amazonwish list forever and I still
haven't dove into it as much asI would like to.
But I'm always very intriguedand I've learned I think I'm a
three, five, if does that makesense for a three five?
I'm a generator there's.
I know it's like very, verycomplex, but for people who
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aren't familiar with humandesign and and what it means,
and can you explain it a littlebit for the newbies of human
design?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah for sure.
So human design is acombination of a few different
modalities.
So the Hindu Brahmin chakrasystem, those energy centers.
It also encompasses astrology,the Kabbalah tree of life.
The Chinese I Ching is alsothere, so it's like hexagrams
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and where, basically, where thetime you were born, where all
the planets were in the sky,they create different parts of
your personality and you canlearn a lot about, like, how to
make better decisions, how tonourish your energy and you know
you can understand the rolethat you play, a lot of things
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energetically in terms of like,how you present yourself to the
world and even your purpose,like what you feel, what your
energy feels really fulfilleddoing in your life.
So, like I mentioned, I'm thecross of service, so that means
like, for me, I feel reallyfulfilled, being of service to
others and helping other people.
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So it is a very complex system.
You know there's so many, evenfor me, like I'm constantly
learning right now I'm doingcourse and money and human
design and how that really showsup.
So there's so many that it isquite complex and that's why I
think it is actually reallyhelpful to get somebody to be
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able to understand where you'reat and apply what is applicable
in that moment so that you canfigure out how to navigate.
Like I said, everything isenergy.
So understanding how to youknow, understanding your energy,
how to care for it, can help,only help you like, propel you
forward faster, and yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, I think that, like, really, I kind of envision
it as like a tool and there'sso many different tools that we
can use to like understand whowe are as as people and and how
we show up and why we show up incertain ways.
And you are right, it is verycomplex.
I think what's really coolabout it, too, is, from my
understanding, it's like thereis so much complex information
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that you get from it and thatyou can kind of hear it and read
it and absorb and kind of takewhat you feel like resonates
with you.
It's not like a textbook oflike this is who you are and so
this is what you should be doingx, y and z, right?
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean like I think the most important thing
that I learned from human designis how to trust your own
internal compass and, you know,being able to lean in on
yourself.
I think that that's the mostimportant and most important
thing about human design.
And to use any tool.
Really, it's like I want peopleto feel empowered, I want them
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to feel like you can use thisinformation for good and, yeah,
I just think it's such a greattool and there are so many tools
out there.
But I think what I love abouthuman design is it really lays
things out in a way so you canlearn how to care for yourself.
At the end of the day and Ithink that's the most important
thing that you could take awayis like learning how to care, to
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trust and build a strongerrelationship with yourself and
and for the people that you lovethat are around you as well.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Yeah, I love that.
There's so much beauty inprioritizing like building a
relationship with yourself anddoing all of these like small
things that kind of resonatewith you to try and like foster
and build that connection.
So one of the things that Iwanted to ask you about and it's
again all in the timing is Iwanted to ask you a little bit
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about shadow work, which I'm notvery familiar with, but as soon
as I I knew that that was likekind of something that you were
leaning into, I was like, oh, Iwant to ask her about this.
And then I saw on yourInstagram today that you were
literally reading a book aboutit, which is hilarious, but you
know not.
Not coincidence, I would loveto know what exactly is shadow
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work.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, so shadow work is.
It's probably the thing that Ithink creates the biggest shifts
in our lives, because you knowso much of life is about our
perspective and you know we cango into, like, the neural
pathways in our brain and how weneed to rewire them in order to
really manifest the life andthat we desire.
But shadow work is all about.
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It's basically parts ofourselves that we have tucked
away into the shadow.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's what I envisioned.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Okay, yeah, keep going, that we like either
rejected or you were shamed for,or you know like a good example
is like somebody who has thisneed to be seen, or like they
want to be on stage and likethey love this, like performing.
But then when they were a kidthey were told, oh that's,
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that's really silly.
Like only people who do thatare like self absorbed or like
they don't care about otherpeople or whatever.
Like programming got orprojections got put on to them,
so then they will.
Every time they see somebodylike performing, they might get
triggered.
So it's almost like this, likeresponse, and yeah, it's, it's
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really interesting and it reallydoes fascinate me.
I always I'm reading new bookson shadow because I think it's
such an interesting subject, butwe have so much in our
subconscious that really rulesour conscious brain in our lives
.
So, being able to dig deep intoourselves and really see like,
okay, what are these parts ofmyself that that I've rejected,
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and how can I bring that intothe light so that I can embody
it and really come here to stepinto the full, authentic version
of of who I am.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I love that so much.
I'm very big on like helpingpeople to acknowledge the
stories that they have been toldabout who they are and what
they should look like and whatthey should be doing, and a lot
of those stories.
I'm just seeing the parallels.
A lot of those stories aretypically things that we have
been given or that wereprojected, to use your words on
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us when we were younger, or bythe media or whomever it is, and
we go into a situation andsomething happens and we react
in a certain way and then we'relike.
Some of us maybe just don'teven think twice about our
reaction, but others are likewhy did I say that?
Like why did that create such avisceral response inside of me?
(15:30):
And if you don't spend the timeto think about why that could
have been, you're going tocontinue to be on this cycle and
you're going to repeat thatloop forever.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, for sure.
It's like so much of ourreactions, the ways that we
think of judgments.
They're just so automatic andit does have a lot to do with
just societal programming,programming from the people
around us and the more that wecan just like.
The first step for any journeythat you want to go on, that you
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want to be on, is awareness,right Like you need to know
where you're at in order tofigure out what direction you
need to go in to reach yourdesires and your dreams.
So I think, yeah, the wholeconcept of shadow work is really
bringing the shadow to light soyou can release and move
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forward and live authentically.
So I think it is so important.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So maybe I intended on doing shadow work with this
podcast not actually, but like alot of the driving force for me
for this show is like havingthose conversations that people
typically wouldn't have.
It's like I'm the flashlightand I'm shining the light into
the corners of like all thosethings that we typically don't
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talk about.
But, like you said, the firststep is like awareness.
So how and I know that this islike one of the things that you
do like how do you start thatlike investigation process of
like what is going on?
For me, you know, like it'sprobably like where do you start
?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yeah, so, yeah, I mean that's why I love human
design, because it gives youbasically this blueprint, like
this roadmap of your energy, andit's like you know, if certain
things like I can even thinkabout, for me I as a manifestor
I'm supposed to be an initiator,but that was such a difficult
thing for me to do is like goout there and like get, go after
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the things that I want becauseof fear fear of rejection, fear
of like being judged.
But, yeah, the first thing thatI always say in my clients
because I do have this newoffering where it's a one on one
session and it is actuallycalled energetic investigation
and we look at your human designchart and then we look at what
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it is that you're reallystruggling with in your life.
So where are you really hiding?
Where are you not feeling likeyou're reaching your potential?
So it could be in relationshipsand career.
And the first thing that Ialways ask is like where are you
feeling really triggered?
Because your triggers give youso much information.
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Are you feeling small?
Are you feeling like, are youfeeling overlooked?
Like where is it that you'refeeling?
Like you know that visceralresponse that can give you a lot
of really good information andhow to the area of your life
that you really need to look at.
You know.
That's why I love pairing humandesign with self care, because
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self care is all about groundingdown into your energy, caring
for yourself, really lookingwithin and seeing how you can
really release.
You know, especially after thehigh seas, full moon, and that's
what I like.
I know I was doing a lot ofreleasing and understanding
maybe some emotions that I waslike holding onto that needed to
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be let go.
So, yeah, looking at yourtriggers is a really good way to
see an area in your life, andalso relationships people.
They're the best mirror thatyou can have.
So where are you judging otherpeople?
What is something that youreally don't like about others?
Those are things that you areprobably like really judging
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yourself for, and where can youlet go of that a little bit.
So I think we don't giveourselves as much credit for how
much how we are responsible forour lives.
Our lives as they are right noware just a reflection of our
subconscious.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So and a subconscious and stuff that we like don't
often give a lot of attention tobecause our brains are like so
much on autopilot, right, likethere's so much they're like the
most complex computers thatever existed and they have so
much like coding that happensthat we don't even realize.
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And you mentioned self care acouple of times and some people
think of the word, myself,honestly included.
Like before I had really dovedeep into mindset work, like I
thought of self care as likeokay, I'm gonna go get my nails
done and do like really likeoutside kind of stuff and then
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that's gonna kind of fuel me toshow up the best that I can in
my life, when in fact, like itgoes so much more beyond that
and we're doing ourselves reallya huge disservice, obviously,
like that trickles out into thepeople around us, but we're
doing ourselves on a sole levela huge disservice when we're not
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taking that intentional time tounderstand ourselves better and
understand, like, what makes ustick and why we are the way we
are and which programming isholding us back, cause we think
like, oh, I'm just, I'm nothappy, what's beneath that?
That's really the reason forwhy we're not happy, which it
sounds like that's what you dowith reading someone's chart.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, well, I do think that a lot of the times as
human beings we get like again.
Like you said, we're in thatautopilot.
The change is really difficultfor a lot of people.
So I think you know, doingthose like cause she taking a
bath, like skincare, was a bigone for me.
But I'm so grateful for thosesmall physical things of
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self-care, aspects of self-carethat really actually allowed me
to go deeper and deeper anddeeper into the deeper methods
that I think really helped menow that are just a part of my
everyday practice for self-care.
But I think for most people,even putting on a face mask,
going and taking 10 minutes andlike taking a bath or like
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something these simple thingsthey seem a little like
superficial but they're actuallya really great like gateway
self-care to the deeper aspects.
Like it's that book AtomicHabits, like it's all about the
small shifts.
If you really want to see theprolonged change in shifts like
they start small, you don't haveto.
You know, jump off a cliff, youcan and.
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But oftentimes what happens isthat you just like go right back
to where you were.
So looking at what anddeepening that practice and that
relationship with yourself.
Like start small, do the smallthings for yourself.
Maybe that's even like makingyour bed in the morning.
It's like you're justadvocating for yourself, doing
things that are gonna make youfeel good, and it's like what
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would make your life easierlater.
What would you do for a friend?
Sometimes that analogy makesthings a little bit easier to.
It's like, yeah, it wouldtotally help my friend and like,
do something kind to them, butwould I do that for myself?
Like probably not.
So looking at yourself as yourown brand because, at the end of
the day, the relationship thatwe have with ourselves is the
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only guaranteed one we're gonnahave for the rest of our lives.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
So yeah, I do this thing with myself and it's kind
of been a practice that I'veadopted like the last couple of
years.
If there's a task that, like Idon't necessarily want to do or
there's something that I'm like,oh, I don't wanna like go there
or do that, I always think like, yeah, but this is helping out
my future self.
So when I reap the benefits ofdoing these dishes tonight, this
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is like very simple.
But when I reap the benefit,like I'm gonna do these dishes
tonight and it's gonna drive menuts, but tomorrow morning when
I wake up, the kitchen is gonnabe clean and I'm automatically
going to feel like a differentenergy when I start my day than
if I wake up and I see like thedishes full of stuff.
And I love how you said it'slike the small habits, because I
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think that we're in a societythat really wants that quick fix
and that thing that's gonnalike okay, I'm feeling this way.
Tell me what I can take, what Ican do.
That's gonna make me feelbetter tomorrow and absolutely,
like you said, you can jump offthe cliff if you want.
It doesn't always work out well, but what really understanding
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that it can be and that it willbe a journey over weeks or
months or even years, like Iknow myself.
I'm still continuing to growand learn, and when you can wrap
your head around the fact thatit really never ends, then
you're almost like givingyourself permission to like.
You don't have to like get tothat finish line, because there
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is no finish line.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yeah, and I think that's what allows you to.
At least for me, it like allowsme to have more self-compassion
for myself, because thisjourney of embodying my
authentic self, it definitelyhasn't been linear.
I definitely have had momentswhere, you know, I feel like
super confident in myself andthen, like literally two weeks
(24:54):
later, I'm like I don't evenknow.
I did stand up comedy for alittle bit and now I'm like I
don't even know how I did that.
The thought of going on stagejust makes me feel like I could
never do that again.
But it's understanding the ebbsand flows of life and like
where you're at.
And I think that the one thingthat is always guaranteed is
(25:15):
like, even when I'm having areally bad day, it's like
tomorrow's going to be a new dayand the lows always really just
increase my capacity for thehighs.
Again, this was in my humandesign chart.
Like I'm an emotional authority,so I really ride the waves of
the emotions and you know, for awhile I really struggled with
(25:37):
that, like I struggled withdepression, and you know it's
because I was always hanging onto the highs and really trying
to reject the lows, but I justaccepted it and you know, when I
do wake up one day and I'm like, yeah, I'm not happy today and
that's okay.
So I think self-acceptance ofwhere you're at and meeting
(25:59):
yourself where you're at can bereally profound, and being able
to navigate and understand howto move through the highs and
lows of life Because that's justthe journey that we're on and
it doesn't ever end right, likewe're constantly growing, we're
constantly understanding.
But I think the most importantthing and this is what I've
(26:20):
learned from self-care is likebeing able to be present in the
moment, because that's what lifeis.
It's not about the next minuteor the one that just happened,
it's about what is going onright now.
And I think I've wasted so muchof my energy being either
caught up in the past or caughtup in the future, and it's like
(26:41):
more you can just ground down inthe present moment.
That's truly the gift of lifeand you know that cheesy thing
it's like that's why it's calledthe present, but it really is,
you know.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
I love that and like also, you never know what work
still has to be done and younever know when a situation or
something may trigger you andyou may think that you're fully
healed from X, y and Z, whateverit is.
I've done all the work on allof my stuff and you will still
(27:13):
forever, always, and it doesn'tmean there's anything wrong with
you, but you will forever,always be in situations where
you're like oh, I feel somethingLike I thought that I had
healed from all of that stuffand it just, you know, it lends
itself to the reality of thehuman experience, but there will
always be OK cliche sayings,there will always be another
(27:34):
mountain to climb.
You know what I mean.
But, like, the view at the topis always great.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Sure, and I think it's like as human beings, we
are just so layered and it feelslike the more that you're doing
this healing work and reallyunderstanding yourself, you're
just peeling back more and morelayers and there's going to be
more shadows in there, there'sgoing to be more triggers in
there, and it's just if you canalways just meet yourself with
self-compassion and really say,like any person that's gone
(28:04):
through all the things that I'vegone through will react the
same way, it just gives you somuch grace in being able to move
forward.
But one thing that I reallybelieve too, is like I don't
believe everything happens for areason.
But I think that we can beempowered enough and make that
choice to really give our pain apurpose, and I can say that
(28:28):
that's been a huge thing in myhealing journey.
You know the painfulexperiences that I've gone
through.
They've really allowed me to beable to connect with more
people in a truly compassionateway, and I think there is a gift
in that.
And you know I wouldn't wishanything on anybody, but I do
find it really empowering to belike okay, I have the power to
(28:53):
turn this into somethingpurposeful.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, I thank you for saying that.
It's so true.
There really is like always alesson in something and you know
, as you've been talking, youshared like three of my favorite
words that I often share likeat the core of the work that I
do around specifically aroundlike body image and coming to a
(29:17):
place of like body acceptance,and it is just like that, like
acceptance and compassion andgrace, like all of those things
are such like there are threegreat words that you can use as
tools when you're navigatingthis world in literally any
situation.
If you meet not only others but, more importantly, yourself,
(29:37):
with compassion, with acceptancefor what is and with grace
around what that is like, youreally can't go wrong.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
So true.
And you know, I think it'sreally interesting because, as
I've moved through selfexpression and especially I love
different modes, like Imentioned, I did stand up by.
You know, fashion is a hugepart of my expression makeup,
like.
Even I just signed up for aburlesque class, like in a
(30:07):
workshop.
So I'm going to be doingburlesque and I'm just really
all about finding thesedifferent ways of just
expressing myself with the worldand I want to put that energy
out there and share it with theworld.
And it's interesting because,like through fashion, I remember
growing up and just absolutelyhating my body and I remember
being, like you know, in gradefive and hating my thighs, and
(30:30):
that has lived with me and grownwith me and I've tried to
really give so much love tomyself, but it always comes back
up, you know.
But then I like kind of didthis, like mindset shift and
because through time, fashion isalways changing and always
shifting and I, when I feelthose like down days, I'm like
(30:52):
no, I get to decide what is infashion in my world and it's my
body, you know.
So it takes like some days areeasier than others, of course,
but I think the more you canjust give yourself love and,
yeah, it just allows you toreally express yourself in
(31:16):
whatever way.
And I think the cool thing toois like the right people are
always going to see you for whoyou are, and I always say, like
not everybody has good taste, soI don't like you, that's on
that.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
So true, so true.
And listen, speaking of fashionand trends, I will never leave
skinny jeans behind.
Go back to the flares, like Ijust can't do it.
I love my skinny jeans.
Anyway rock on.
So how can people connect withyou if they want to work with
(31:55):
you or if they want to learnmore about you?
Can you share that with us?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yes, for sure.
So I'm on Instagram, muse,selfcare, and I also have my
website, use selfcarecom.
And yeah, I'm always happy toconnect and anything
spirituality, human design, justlike embodying our true,
authentic selves.
I'm all about that and I reallydo believe that when one of us
(32:23):
can really step into our power,we all are expanded by that, and
I think it's just amazing tosee people who either look like
us or we resonate with them insome capacity, seeing them rock
on.
It's just so empowering and,like I said, we see to believe,
(32:44):
so we can see that that canhappen for us too.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah, it feels like we have permission almost then.
If somebody else is doing it,then you can follow that, Follow
that niggle for yourself if youwant to.
So you'll have to correct me ifI'm wrong on this, but fun fact
I use the Gua Sha that I boughtfrom you at a witch market a
(33:08):
couple years ago A couple yearsago maybe, like so regularly and
I often think of you like whenI'm using it.
I'm sitting in my bed likerubbing my face.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I remember that you got the Rose Quartz one.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
I did.
Oh my gosh, you have such agood memory.
That's so beautiful.
You probably saw so many peoplethat day.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You know, energy, it's all about energy.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yes, oh gosh, this conversation really has
literally come full circle.
Thank you so much for sharingthis time with me and for
lending your wisdom to everybodywho's listening.
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on and always for
lifting other people up, so Ijust love it so much and keep on
going.
I think it's great.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Thank you so much, everybody.
I hope you have a beautifulrest of your day and, until next
week, stay well.
Thanks so much for being here.
I hope you're leaving with afull heart, some inspiration, or
you're feeling the kick in thebutt you felt like you needed.
If you really enjoyed thisepisode, be sure to share it
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Thanks for listening today andstay well.
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