February 24, 2023 • 32 mins
Such a special heart filled episode with guest Erica Marie! ❤️ Erica Marie is an Uplifter, Speaker, and Success Coach. Her expertise in business & life success coaching, along with her passion for mental, physical, and spiritual wellness, has helped countless individuals achieve a more fulfilling, balanced, purposeful, and mindful life. You can find this special lady on instagram here.
In this episode Erica Marie shares a bit of her story and we discuss our shared philosophy on the power of LOVE and really dive into what LOVE really means. How the word and meaning has been altered and diluted and has lost some of it's true feeling with it's misuse and misunderstanding of what it means to truly love. Especially when it comes to loving oneself.
Erica Marie is on a mission like me to help light up the world. She has a very special intuitive perspective and has a passion for speaking up and reaching out to all those who need to realize just how loved we truly are, to come to know what real love is, the unconditional love that is accessible and available from our source. And how all of us are fully deserving of that love no matter where we are at in our lives.
Even when we mess up, or let our ego take over that love is what brings us back to forgiveness and how we can move on and continue to rise up and live in an abundant and joyous life.
Let me know what you think of our talk here, because we have many topics we would love to do more episodes on.
Shoot me a DM on Facebook or Instagram or find me on the website at www.chelseavanbuskirk.com
Tell me if you could feel the loving energy from listening to this episode, like I did when recording it! ❤️
#youareenough #allisone #onelove #divinelight #namaste #selflove #loveisallyouneed #godislove #allyouneedislove #selfgrowth
#noapologies #knowyourworth #vibehigh #riseabove #raiseyourvibe #selfworth #youarestrong #youaredivine #youareworthy #affirm #rememberwhoyouare #rememberwhothefuckyouare #healingoldwounds #healingjourney #heartaf #theheartafpodcast #podcast #youarenotalone #youareloved #youareworthit #standtall #ownit
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(00:05):
Hi everyone.
It's Chelsea VanBuskirkwith the Heart AF podcast.
Hope you guys are all doing well.
I'm super excited for today's episodecuz I have a very special guest, Erica
Marie, I'm so excited to have you here.
And I'm gonna just reada little bit about her.
Um, she gave me this amazing bio andoh my gosh, I just love her so much.
So Erica Marie is an uplifter, aspeaker and success coach with over
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two decades of entrepreneurship and aformer executive in the corporate world.
She specializes in intuitive mindfulnessand a wellness with a holistic
approach, and she has a passion forpeople as a humanitarian and servant.
She's committed to serving others withcompassion and empathy, delivering a
promise of love in all of her endeavors,her expertise in business and life success
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coaching along with her, uh, passionfor mental, physical, and spiritual
wellness has helped countlessindividuals achieve a more fulfilling,
balanced, purposeful and mindful life.
Woo, Erica Marie's dedication tomaking the world a better place
has earned her a reputation as apowerful, intuitive speaker and true
inspiration to those around her.
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Woo.
Okay, so welcome, Erica Marie.
I'm so excited to have you here, andthat is just, oh my gosh, what a bio.
Yes, exactly.
And um, I could tell you that meand Erica are so similar and do
you, like, do you go Erica Marie?
I just wanna make surelike, is it Eric Marie?
Yeah.
Okay.
(01:30):
Yes.
Okay, just wanna make sure.
So Erica, Marie and I are both mothers.
We both have a strong intuition and we.
Have similar, I feel likebeliefs as far as spirituality
goes, and we both are uplifters.
Um, so we just have so much incommon and I'm so excited to have
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you on the Heart AF podcast today.
And, um, you know, also as mothersand just helping uplift others, I, you
know, we both have experienced grief.
We've experienced, you know,heartache and changes and.
You know, having to stand up forourselves and our beliefs and
being true to our heart, right?
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To be able to break through andblossom into these amazing women.
So, Erica Marie I would love foryou, to share some of your story
and maybe a little bit of yourevolution to maybe think of like
where you were before you kind of.
Became to this awakened brilliantwoman that you are today.
Yes.
Well, thank you first and foremost.
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I appreciate it.
I'm so excited for today.
Um, I do know that we haveso many synergies and we
are soul sisters for sure.
Um, and that being said, you know, Ifeel like my power comes and obviously
from within, but the power of lovereally resides in me as a woman.
Yes.
Loving everything, allthink being a woman.
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Um, everything about the female energy,everything about who we are, our makeup,
um, understanding, having that awarenessof our emotions right, and how we operate
and how we see things and our perspective.
From a little girl I had it.
And, um, some, I'm from, of course,five sisters from my parents, and
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then I have a half sister as wellfrom my father's second marriage.
And I came from a host of women, uh,aunts, um, amazing, uh, women in my life
from, you know, friendships and, andjust then being a mother of three, I have
my son first and then the three girls.
And so I just feel like I've hadnothing but women all my life around me.
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And cousins and all of that.
And we ma majority was always women.
And it was very little that Irealized that I had a passion . That
was very different or alwaysbeing connected to women.
Meaning if it was my aunt in the room,um, with even when , my dad was around or
uncles, I always gravitated to, whether itwas a grandmother, an aunt, someone else.
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That was a woman and I had sisterswho, you know, bullied and did
the things kind of, they did.
Um, and always got goton me cuz I was the baby.
But I feel like a lot of that.
A 10, like magnetic attraction,I guess is what I wanna say for
women was really powerful for me.
And even my mother who, uh, I love we, itwas beautiful in the beginning and then
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when my parents got divorced, it was alittle rocky and I got to a place where
I knew that, um, everything that she was.
And wasn't, was still creatingme, it was still forming me.
It was creating the, you know, thelack, it was creating all the, you
know, the self-doubt, the abandonment,the disbelief, you know, all the things
that you go through as a kid withouthaving, you know, the mother kind
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of really there and present for you.
Um, And really coming into myselfthrough my teenage years and getting
reacquainted with her and reallyunderstanding like, wow, you know, I've
gotta like almost honor her regardlesscuz she did the best she could.
And there was a journey there froma healing process that I feel like
I started to really understand.
Women the most, looking at my mother'slife looking, um, and, and mirrored it.
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There were so many thingsthat were mirrored too.
Uh, and so I would just understand like,wow, how did this ever happen to me?
And I have all these amazing people andI have all these different people and
personalities, but, um, my, to the core ofme, I still with mirroring my mother and
I thought, wow, this is pretty powerful.
And there was just a selfrevelation of who am I?
Who is this little girl thatI have to talk to, right?
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Who is this, um, little personinside of me that is longing for a
love that I never really understoodbecause I had never experienced it.
Yeah.
So go forward and I, you know, I become,you know, a young mother and married,
uh, at like 22, uh, and really got toa place of like, you know, business and
corporate and or, you know, you're aroundall these amazing people and, and women
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in leadership, but it was like, I still.
There's something, right?
Mm-hmm.
, there's always that something.
And
I have goosebumps , I havegoosebumps listening to this
story cause Oh my God, yeah.
Keep going.
. Yeah.
It's
like there's that, something that'sresonating with like pulling me and
I'm, I, I'm trying to understand, youknow, even in leadership or in, in rooms
and in, um, boardrooms I gravitatedto women and what their stories
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were and what did they need from me.
And I was always in this servicerole, but I always delivered love and
it was a love that was actionable.
It listened.
It was not judging, it waskind, it was empathetic.
And I knew, I was like, this is it.
And so it was something that I justcontinued to kind of like cultivate
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on and, and kind of just sit withit and honor it when it would be
present in a room powerful with women.
And I thought, okay,now I, I'm getting this.
And I really got to a place, therewas a pivotal moment in my life
and we're gonna, I know we'll talkmore, but there was a pivot, pivotal
moment in my life when I lost my dad.
and I moved out west and I waslooking, you know, into hiking and
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everything that I had going on.
And you know, coming from the corporateworld, you're really high driven.
Uh, you care about the people, right?
You care about the business.
Um, but you don't get thattime to really self-reflect.
You are always in service.
And I was on a mountaintop and Iremember, um, and now's where I'll
probably get a little emotional.
I remember missing my dad so muchsaying, you're beautiful from the
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inside, and that's what makes you unique.
That's what sets you apart.
Your beauty has never been on theoutside, although from the eyes of
the beholder, you know, half decent.
But inside, my dad would always say tome, your beauty's lying from the inside.
And if you allow that light toshine, right, like you're limitless.
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Now we know.
But he used to say, back in theday, sky's the limit for you.
And I remember being on the mountaintopand saying, I've gotta follow this
beauty, this love this, pull this passion.
Uh, that's in the inside andwhat does that look like?
And she is a love that hasnever, ever experienced a love
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the way that I can give it.
So I say that to say the revelationin a, in aha for me was the way that
I love and the way that I show up inrelationships, be it personal, right?
Friendships, business clients,people around me from the president,
to, my dad would always say tothe homeless, I have a love,
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right where I am with you, whereveryou are in your life, where we
show up together, there is just an.
A natural, empathetic, right.
Intuitiveness.
Mm-hmm.
of, let me I see you.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
So that was kind of the aha for me.
And then, you know, as I justcontinued to self-develop, right?
And really invest in, you know,people and coaches and, and, uh,
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intuitive leaders, uh, to really say,you know, what is this, what, what
do I even call this thing, right?
Mm-hmm.
. And, um, you know, then goingthrough the branding guru, uh, his
self rich Keller, and, you know,putting that core value in me.
He's like, you're an uplifter.
He's like, But your promisethat you lead with is love.
And it was powerful to me cuz it justreaffirms everything that I, who I am
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and what I do and everything that I touchis really powered by the most highest
energy we can operate in, which is love.
Absolutely.
Oh my gosh, that's so beautiful.
Oh yeah.
I mean I was getting goosebumps cuz Imean just, you know, we do have very
similar stories, which is just so crazy.
And again, one of those things,Everything happens for a reason, right?
(09:23):
Like the people that are putin our life are for a reason.
And it's just, it's likeyou can't make it up, right?
Yeah.
Like the synchronicities you see and justthe, the different themes and just wow.
And I, um, I love that.
Love is this kind of,that's like the core, right?
Is everything is love.
God is love, right?
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Like love is the end all, be all thing.
I think I even saw since, you know,we're just coming off of Valentine's Day,
there was, um, a video I saw of, uh, MelRobbins, I think who I love and I think
is an awesome, um, inspiration person.
But she said, you guys,I've got it figured out.
The secret to life, um, or why we'rehere is to love and be loved, right?
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To receive love and to give love.
And it's like, yes, absolutely.
That is Absolutely it.
And um, you also had something thatI just, I've, I've talked a lot about
too, is just people feel feeling seen.
And that's something that I really wannaoffer as well, is just to let people know.
And again, I like how you said that,that I think that was from your dad,
like from the president to the homeless.
Like I've said that too islike, you know, the homeless guy
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down the street from me is no.
Worse or better than me, right?
Like we are all on thesame equal playing field.
Like we are all just as worthy,um, as, you know, whatever
you, wherever you may be.
And so I loved how you put that.
Like you meet peoplewhere they are at in life.
And that's exactly like what I wanna dois offer people is like this safe space
no matter where you are or what you'regoing through, what pain you're feeling,
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or, or how much you dislike yourself.
Or you think you've made mistakesand you think you've just done
all these things wrong, likeyou are still loved and perfect.
And you're still whole in thatI still see you just as you are.
You don't have to hide and pretend.
And that's something I think we were kindof, yeah, ping ponging on a conversation
recently about that is just we hateseeing people who just get so down.
Um, You know, and kind of let themselvesgo in a way where they might turn to
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addictions or overeating or extremeexercise or whatever they're doing to
numb themselves, like running away andhiding from who they truly are cuz they
don't feel like they can be acceptedor fully be themselves and be loved.
Right?
And to get that love and it'slike, I feel like me and you
are like these changemakers.
I wanna change that and just letwhoever is feeling that way to let
them know like, no, that is wrong.
Like, we are here for you.
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We got you.
We see you.
Yeah.
And you are loved and perfect just as you
are.
Absolutely.
I love that.
And you know, two things, uh, I wannago back to of course, you know, yes.
God is love, right?
And, and having that connectionand understanding, uh, the one.
for me is the love that I feel like Ican get connected to source, connected
to him, uh, from that perspective.
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But that is a love that for me, I channelthat is so powerful that I know, I know
beyond the shadow of a doubt, I lackedit or myself and lacked it from others.
And what I did was, I feel like thatallowed me to see people right to
where they were, was the experiencesthat I've been through, right?
Mm-hmm.
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, my test being, my testimony, my.
being my message.
Yes.
Everything that I feel like I'veexperienced, knowing that it was
like, okay, this is not just for me.
This has to be for a greater purpose.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Because
everything that, even whether I bychoice, by bad mistake or by failure of
my own or by like not self-inflicted andby others doing it to me, whatever that
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was in my life that I was experienced,there was always, um, a fortitude and a
grit and a strength and a courage thatcame through powered deep within that.
I only was broken in the moment.
I never really allowed myself to,even if it was a self sabotaging
moment, it was literally a moment.
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Mm-hmm.
it, it didn't go on farther then.
Right?
So it didn't turn into a week,it didn't turn into a month,
it didn't turn into a year.
It didn't turn into a decade.
, it was about the moment.
Okay, I'm honoring, Ithink this pain, right?
And then mm-hmm.
. Okay.
So I'm at a self-sabotage moment.
I'm at the bottom of a, you know,the bottom of a wine bottle.
What does this look like?
And why am I, you know, and thenit's like, okay, I grieved like
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four family members in 18 months.
Absolutely.
I can see why I would be at the bottomof a, you know, a wine bottle, but
I didn't, I didn't keep it there.
Yes, it's safe, stock.
And one of the things that I feel likeis very hard for people when they do
have those moments in trials in lifeand adversity comes their way, or, you
know, a challenge or a trauma, right?
They don't have someone to be able tosay, this is what I'm feeling right now.
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Without either judgment, without aprescription, without putting, locked
away, without being, you know, all ofthe things that I feel like come with
just honor where you are, right?
Mm-hmm.
, . And it's okay.
And we can get through this together,but so many people, I feel like
we lose sight of them or theylose sight of themselves, right?
Yes.
But those who say they lovearen't actually loving in action.
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Mm-hmm.
, those who say they are in a, you know, aprofession, um, are they really purposed
in the profession for the people orare they purposed in the profession
for the lifestyle that it yields..
Mm-hmm.
. Yeah.
And you lose sight of peoplein everything that you do.
And you become, and you wanna be, once youlose sight of people or the person, you're
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losing sight of what really matters.
Yes.
So if you go back to Mel Robbins,which I love too, it is about
love and being love, right?
And it is that reciprocityof give, get back, right?
Mm-hmm.
,that's.
. That's the beauty of, I feel likethe love that we can do when we
uplift someone is meeting them,of course, right where they are.
But it's being able to connectwith them and, and things that
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either I've experienced or peoplewho I've helped, or people who you
know, have been in my family orfriendships, like things along the way.
I'm able to draw from just intuitively,naturally, and it's just the thing
that comes when somebody else is onthe other lense or the other side.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
It's just, that's the power of love.
That's when you are operatingin that highest form.
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Mm-hmm.
, it will naturally, automaticallymagnify like exactly what it
needs to do for that person.
Right.
And I don't believe in happenstances.
I don't believe in chance.
Right, right.
I there's some things that, you know, forme, I'm just like, no, there's a reason
for this and, and then you just know.
You just know me.
, absolutely.
Yeah.
But for those who don't knowwhat they don't know, it's very
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hard to come out of the chaos.
The yes sabotage, the addictions, it's,it's, because they just don't know that
there's, there's hope on the other side.
Right?
Right.
That there's another way.
Yeah, there's another way.
There's another way.
But you've gotta do itthrough a loving way.
And love is an action.
You know?
It's how you treat someone.
It's how you make them feel.
What are they leaving your presence with?
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Yes.
You know, we say, talkabout that gift, right?
The actual is a gift, butwhat are you leaving them?
. Yeah.
Like, I wanna leave a fragrance of loveeverywhere that I go, in the rooms that
I step into, the stages that I step on.
Right?
Yeah.
I wanna leave that fragrance andit's, it's a beautiful thing to
be in and I'm honored to be, youknow, to do who it, to do it.
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I get to do it.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
I get, yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Um, what do you think, um, is thehard, like for people who aren't aware.
For people who don't know what they know.
So like, it sounds like to me, likeyou've kind of always had this feeling
or this calling, which I can totallyrelate and I wasn't really sure what
to call it either, but this like, I habut there's something here that I have
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got to get out that I need to follow.
Right.
And um, but I wanna table that for nowand kind of talk about for the people
who maybe don't know, because, youknow, I do believe that we all innately
we come from this place of abundance andcreation, and then we get, we are born
here and we get the, this conditioning andwe, we just forget, like it's like this,
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you know, like the men in black thingwhere you are, we forget, like we don't
remember that we are abundant and creator.
. We, we just, we feel like we'rein this limited place and that it,
there's scarcity and it's competitionand it's dog eat dog and mm-hmm.
um, all these things where, youknow, life kind of just beats
us down and people get lost.
Yeah.
And.
You know, I think like, it's weird becauseI know what, what happened for me and how
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I kind of started to become awakened orremember, um, and kind of know this stuff.
And it was just me seeking out, honestly,mediumship to connect with my mother who
had passed when we had unresolved issues.
Like that was literally the thingthat opened the door for me to even
explore this whole world of justlove and, and, and, you know, opening
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up my spirituality and, and just.
Finding love and self-love andfinding, you know, the power within
me and the love within me, right?
Yes.
But I, I wonder like, what, whatdo, like, I guess the question I'm
trying to ask you is what do you thinkabout people who are lost or don't
see, like, what, what's the way thatthey kind of get awakened or what.
do you see as a solution to help reachthose people who may not even just
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have this awareness or ability to pullthemselves out because they can't see
that hope, they can't see that love yet?
Mm-hmm.
, I mean, I think as much as I wannaput it back on the person who can't
see it, I am an accountability soul.
I that there are so many of usout there who aren't truly being
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accountable for their calling mm.
And the goal of love is to be led.
Mm-hmm.
by love.
And so I'd like to challenge, andit's part of my mission and vision and
everything else I've got working on willtable later, but I challenge more those
whom have it and are called to do it.
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And be that guide and be thatmentor and be that success coach.
Right.
And love for that person.
Mm-hmm.
to find their tribes,to find their people.
because so much someone in sabotage,someone in grief, someone in self-doubt,
someone in imposter, . Right.
Syndrome, competition, just everything.
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Right?
They're in failure zone.
They're just continuingto just, you know, revolve
around spiral.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
. You can revolve aroundit or go farther to rock.
To the rocks.
Rocks, yes.
But the problem I see today is peoplehave a lot of talk and no action.
. Yeah.
And so my mission is to really holdthose accountable who have the calling.
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Mm-hmm.
to be able to reach out and go down.
Yes.
And grab a hand
to be the leaders and yeah.
Mm-hmm.
. And so that's where I'm driven.
It feels like that's where Ifeel like my passion lies more.
because they can't find you.
You have to
find them.
Right.
And like, how can you helppeople if you don't go out?
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Like, you know, speak upand speak out and reach out.
Right?
Right.
And so
it's about being in the room.
Proximity.
There is power in proximity.
We know that, right?
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
. And so why aren't we as calledto be in the rooms more than
those who are searching, right?
Who are, yeah.
Broken and don't know how to get to us.
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Yes.
And so we are failing.
, every time we are not pulling andpassionate out our call, we are
failing those who are falling behind.
And I feel more, um, of the whistleblower,of the one to like put it in a different
lens, in a different perspectivebecause I don't think it's their
fault and how to find us, I think it'sours and why we're not finding them.
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I have goosebumps everywhere.
Oh my gosh.
Like I'm fired up because this justlights a fire under my ass, honestly,
because it's something that, I mean,I wrote this on a whiteboard four
years ago that I wanna use my light.
and shine it brightly so that Ican help others light up, right?
Like I wanna be that candlethat lights the next candle.
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Like that causes the rippleThat just helps other people.
Like that is so much what I wannado is just to reach those people.
And so you saying this isessentially like your solution is.
To, to get everybody else who has alsohad this calling to stand the fuck up
and let's shout it from the rooftops.
Like, let's get ourselvesout there and say it.
And you know, I think the biggestthing too is that us, um, and
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others like us, it's fear.
Like we're afraid to shout it out.
We're afraid it to be condemned by otherideologies or other people that are
like, oh, you know, you know, whatever.
Because people like boxes and they likethings to fit and it's like, I feel like.
a lot of us are about breakingthose boxes and, and acceptance.
Right.
And that there is no, like, youhave to prove yourself, right?
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Like you don't have to do X,y, Z in order to be loved.
Right?
Like you are just loved and Right.
Um, and so I think thereis this, like, this fear.
I mean, I know for me too.
Yeah.
Like even.
You know, launching the podcast wasa big deal for me, um, because it,
but it's also so freeing and it'samazing cuz you kind of just get to
say whatever the fuck you want and
Exactly.
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be
unapologetic about it.
The people will listen that want to.
And, um, but it is a way to getout there and, you know, um,
so it's like a start, right?
It's a start.
And, and I think you have like, you'reso onto to something with that, like
that is so big and so powerful andjust like I said, that just totally.
Lit me up everywhere cuz it'slike, yes, yes, yes, yes.
(22:32):
Right.
you can do this.
Like please like keep goingout there and um, Yeah.
So just,
yeah, it's, it's powerful I think,and I'm a visual like you are, right?
So I feel like as you were, um,you were talking about seeing the
actual like light up, so your mm-hmm.
light is igniting, right.
These candles to go.
So part of even, you know, mypersonal movement, uh, you know,
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that I've been working on kind ofin the background, uh, there's a.
and there's a visual of thelight of love of one that then
calls out all the other lights.
And it goes in like this triangle, right?
This outdoor, like with no end.
Mm-hmm.
. But that's the ignition that we need.
That's the, the igniter, the starter fuel.
But what I, what I feel in the fearaspect that you were talking about,
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because it's very real for me aswell, it was, um, was that perfect.
Love casts out all fear.
Meanings true.
I perfectly the best to my ability.
Love me through my Guide, throughmy source, through God, right?
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What that is, and that is enough for meto say I am not fearful to step forward.
If I speak alone, I'll speak for themany and I'm truly empowered that way
to say I am no longer fearful of whathe or she may think, what they may
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put, you know, this round peg and likethey say in a square hole, whatever
that is saying, but it's like youcan't sit baby in the corner no more.
Like, yes, I'm out here, I'm coming out.
Apologetic.
Yes, I'm co, but with the biggest,boldest, baddest, fearless.
I'm here to move and I'm here tomake a movement, and I'm here to
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keep loving in a different waybecause the word's been abused.
It's been, I don't know, I chopped up.
I, it's been so mistreated.
Mm-hmm.
. Um, and I can't wait to heal thatworld again and heal the word of love.
Yeah, like what love really truly meansand what it means to actually action it
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out and how it is to show up for others.
And you can't, to me, loveyourself and not love others.
Um, and, and think you're gonna get.
Pretty far in life, right?
You can, there's success.
There's, you know, the monetary,there's other things, right?
That it all, everybody, you know, froma social media perspective puts on what
ide what it ideally looks like, right?
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Right.
But for me, you know, success from aday standpoint is what life did I touch?
What life did I uplift?
How did I empower them?
How did I make them feel?
Right.
And all of that is learning fromthe back ends when I didn't make
someone feel so good mm-hmm.
, or that I did get into, um, an entitlementmode or, you know, a positioning mode and
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I forgot that I was dealing with a human.
Mm-hmm.
, I forgot that I was dealing with a heart.
When you're entrusted with people'shearts, it's a powerful thing and you
gotta be mindful and you gotta be careful.
But having that understanding of likemindfulness too, of how I love and how
I make someone feel, and I don't everwanna feel a certain way, I would want
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never want to impose that on someone else.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And, and we are our worst criticswhere we do our most self-sabotage.
Nobody can criticize me more,beat me up more than me, myself.
Yep.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
, and, and, and now it's like, now ifI have a moment, I'm not my proudest
moment, I give myself the okay to.
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Get pissed off, you know, smasha, b, a pillow or whatever on
the bed, like whatever I have todo and be like, I screwed that.
I'm gonna own it.
You know, like a big Yes,big girl painting is on.
Yes, exactly.
I'm on it.
I mess that up, but I'm gonnafix it and I'm gonna do my best
and it's then no longer on me.
Right.
You're exactly.
Yep.
Cause the key is that once you havealready, I feel like either asked
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for forgiveness or you kind oflike, you know, I'm, I'm forgetting
that I'm leaving, I'm severing tiesbad relationship, whatever it is.
And I know we can talk about allthose things, , but um, yeah.
But it's like all, once you do all that,you're like, I've done what I can do.
Yeah, I'm releasing it.
I can't sit there anymore.
Yeah.
It is what it is, essentially.
Right.
And then you just have to moveon and I've gotta move forward.
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Yes.
Giving that confidence andin yourself that permission.
Mm-hmm.
to yourself to be able to say, I got this.
It's okay.
Yep.
I'm not perfect.
No one is, right.
Yeah.
And people are flawed every day, but atthe end of the day, did I love myself?
Did I, am I kind to myself when I mess up?
nine times outta 10 people aren't Right.
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That's the hardest part, right?
Is like, okay.
Mm-hmm.
kid can mess up and then they, youknow, they ask for forgiveness and
you're, you're almost by, you're in adifferent energy cuz you're, they're,
you're fine the next day, right?
Right.
Or they're fine.
The next moment you'relike, okay, come on.
And you're loving on them.
Like, and we can't dothat for ourselves, right?
Mm-hmm.
. Right?
We can't forgive ourselves.
We can't understand.
Okay, that was a bad moment, abad day, a bad night, bad week.
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Okay,
well, I literally just did a, I did apodcast on this like two episodes ago.
It, it's called Forgive You, butthat's literally what it was about,
was about how we keep ourselves stuckby not forgiving ourselves, right?
Like we need to just, you know,if we really mess up, you say,
sorry, you do what you know,and then you move on, right?
You own it and you move on.
Like, it's because if you, youknow, if you get stuck in that
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place, And again, you just letyou spiral all out and you're, you
know, you're, you're lost again.
It's like, nope.
You gotta forgive yourself.
Move on.
And remember, you know, thatinner power, that inner love.
I love.
I love love.
I love love, I love, I know.
It's like so brilliant.
So
. Yeah, I do.
I do.
Exactly.
You can't say it in enough languages.
You can't say it in enough.
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Um, You know, um, likebody, you know, um mm-hmm.
signs or whatever.
I know.
Like it is a, it is how I feelin your presence and how you
make me feel when you leave it.
Right.
And that is something thatI feel like we are lacking.
Yeah.
We are lacking, lacking, lacking.
And this world would be such a morebeautiful place if we all loved
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differently and not meaning theway that people loved previously
and how they abused the word.
Yeah.
But if we now have a new mindsetand a new understanding of what
love should really look like Yeah.
Uh, and how we should action it out.
But I, I'll, I'm gonna saythis because it's so powerful.
Thank you for being whoyou are and your light.
And you do have a callingand I know we tabled it, but
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we're gonna come back to that
But, um, you know, the other piece ofit is, is that I can't I can't explain
enough how important it is for all of usto come together and love in this way.
Yeah, and the shift and themovement that can happen when we do.
. Right.
And that we are allowed to love inthe way that we love and the best
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form of that, you know, that we knowhow to love and we're taught how
to love properly, then it's like,then that just ignites the world.
Mm-hmm.
. And my goal is to continueto lead and love, right.
And be a servant leader of love, butto make it, make sure it's one person
at a time that no one gets left.
Yeah.
Right.
No heart gets left behind.
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So it doesn't matter thelanguage, it doesn't matter,
you know, the sign language, itdoesn't matter, the visual even.
Um, if you can't see a human,you can feel it, feel it.
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
, right?
And so that's the, that'sreally the story here.
That's amazing.
I love.
I love it.
I can't stop saying it.
It's just so brilliant and you know, youare such a beautiful person inside and
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out, and I think you are just doing suchamazingly wonderful, big things, right?
And this is definitely abig mission that you are.
You know what I wanna say,not spearheading, like Yeah.
I mean, you know, right.
Like you It's my personal charge.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And it is absolutely beautiful.
And you're, like I said, you're doingbig things and I'm so thankful, um,
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to have you on the podcast this week.
This was just such a specialexperience and I can't wait to
do some more episodes with youbecause I think we have Yeah, right.
Let's do it.
So much more to talk about.
So, um, I think we'll endit with that Sweet note.
Um, and just, yeah, like I said,what a powerful mission you're on.
And thank, um, thank you.
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I'm so excited for you.
And just, thank you again for beinghere and, um, I, I mean, I hope you
guys feel it too when you listen tothis whole conversation because you
know, Energy knows no bounds, right?
Like there is no time or space.
And so even having this conversation,Erica Marie is, you know, I don't know
(31:21):
how 2000 miles away from me right now,but there's still this connection with
our, you know, speaking with each otherover, you know, the, the camera and stuff.
Like, you can feel that energy, youcan feel Erica Marie's passion and her
love is coming through in her words.
And, um, so hopefully you guys canfeel that as you listen to this episode
too, because there definitely isthis energy that's being cultivated.
(31:42):
And, you know, just in her sharingher story and her, her message
and her mission, um, is powerfuland it's filled with love.
So, Erica Marie, thank youso much for being here.
Um, I don't know if you wannashout out any way people can find
you or follow you on social media.
Yes.
Um, social media on Instagram is Iam, uh, emarie underscore official.
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@iamemarie_official
Yeah.
Okay, great.
And I can
link it to websites and everything elseare all getting branded in to come.
Uh, so Oh,
that's so exciting.
Lot's coming.
Yeah.
Well I'll keep it updated inthe description of the podcast.
I'll also link her, um, Instagramhandle and then when she does get
her new, um, website and everythingput up, I'll link it back.
You know, I'll backlog it intothis episode and hopefully
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future episodes to come.
Um, but thank you againso much for coming.
Um, you all know where to find me.
I'm at Instagram and Facebook@Chelsea.VanBuskirk or website
is chelseavanbuskirk.com and Iwill see you guys all next week.
Peace . Bye.
Hi everyone.
It's Chelsea VanBuskirkwith the Heart AF podcast.
Hope you guys are all doing well.
I'm super excited for today's episodecuz I have a very special guest, Erica
Marie, I'm so excited to have you here.
And I'm gonna just reada little bit about her.
Um, she gave me this amazing bio andoh my gosh, I just love her so much.
So Erica Marie is an uplifter, aspeaker and success coach with over
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two decades of entrepreneurship and aformer executive in the corporate world.
She specializes in intuitive mindfulnessand a wellness with a holistic
approach, and she has a passion forpeople as a humanitarian and servant.
She's committed to serving others withcompassion and empathy, delivering a
promise of love in all of her endeavors,her expertise in business and life success
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coaching along with her, uh, passionfor mental, physical, and spiritual
wellness has helped countlessindividuals achieve a more fulfilling,
balanced, purposeful and mindful life.
Woo, Erica Marie's dedication tomaking the world a better place
has earned her a reputation as apowerful, intuitive speaker and true
inspiration to those around her.
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Woo.
Okay, so welcome, Erica Marie.
I'm so excited to have you here, andthat is just, oh my gosh, what a bio.
Yes, exactly.
And um, I could tell you that meand Erica are so similar and do
you, like, do you go Erica Marie?
I just wanna make surelike, is it Eric Marie?
Yeah.
Okay.
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Yes.
Okay, just wanna make sure.
So Erica, Marie and I are both mothers.
We both have a strong intuition and we.
Have similar, I feel likebeliefs as far as spirituality
goes, and we both are uplifters.
Um, so we just have so much incommon and I'm so excited to have
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you on the Heart AF podcast today.
And, um, you know, also as mothersand just helping uplift others, I, you
know, we both have experienced grief.
We've experienced, you know,heartache and changes and.
You know, having to stand up forourselves and our beliefs and
being true to our heart, right?
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To be able to break through andblossom into these amazing women.
So, Erica Marie I would love foryou, to share some of your story
and maybe a little bit of yourevolution to maybe think of like
where you were before you kind of.
Became to this awakened brilliantwoman that you are today.
Yes.
Well, thank you first and foremost.
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I appreciate it.
I'm so excited for today.
Um, I do know that we haveso many synergies and we
are soul sisters for sure.
Um, and that being said, you know, Ifeel like my power comes and obviously
from within, but the power of lovereally resides in me as a woman.
Yes.
Loving everything, allthink being a woman.
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Um, everything about the female energy,everything about who we are, our makeup,
um, understanding, having that awarenessof our emotions right, and how we operate
and how we see things and our perspective.
From a little girl I had it.
And, um, some, I'm from, of course,five sisters from my parents, and
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then I have a half sister as wellfrom my father's second marriage.
And I came from a host of women, uh,aunts, um, amazing, uh, women in my life
from, you know, friendships and, andjust then being a mother of three, I have
my son first and then the three girls.
And so I just feel like I've hadnothing but women all my life around me.
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And cousins and all of that.
And we ma majority was always women.
And it was very little that Irealized that I had a passion . That
was very different or alwaysbeing connected to women.
Meaning if it was my aunt in the room,um, with even when , my dad was around or
uncles, I always gravitated to, whether itwas a grandmother, an aunt, someone else.
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That was a woman and I had sisterswho, you know, bullied and did
the things kind of, they did.
Um, and always got goton me cuz I was the baby.
But I feel like a lot of that.
A 10, like magnetic attraction,I guess is what I wanna say for
women was really powerful for me.
And even my mother who, uh, I love we, itwas beautiful in the beginning and then
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when my parents got divorced, it was alittle rocky and I got to a place where
I knew that, um, everything that she was.
And wasn't, was still creatingme, it was still forming me.
It was creating the, you know, thelack, it was creating all the, you
know, the self-doubt, the abandonment,the disbelief, you know, all the things
that you go through as a kid withouthaving, you know, the mother kind
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of really there and present for you.
Um, And really coming into myselfthrough my teenage years and getting
reacquainted with her and reallyunderstanding like, wow, you know, I've
gotta like almost honor her regardlesscuz she did the best she could.
And there was a journey there froma healing process that I feel like
I started to really understand.
Women the most, looking at my mother'slife looking, um, and, and mirrored it.
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There were so many thingsthat were mirrored too.
Uh, and so I would just understand like,wow, how did this ever happen to me?
And I have all these amazing people andI have all these different people and
personalities, but, um, my, to the core ofme, I still with mirroring my mother and
I thought, wow, this is pretty powerful.
And there was just a selfrevelation of who am I?
Who is this little girl thatI have to talk to, right?
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Who is this, um, little personinside of me that is longing for a
love that I never really understoodbecause I had never experienced it.
Yeah.
So go forward and I, you know, I become,you know, a young mother and married,
uh, at like 22, uh, and really got toa place of like, you know, business and
corporate and or, you know, you're aroundall these amazing people and, and women
(05:45):
in leadership, but it was like, I still.
There's something, right?
Mm-hmm.
, there's always that something.
And
I have goosebumps , I havegoosebumps listening to this
story cause Oh my God, yeah.
Keep going.
. Yeah.
It's
like there's that, something that'sresonating with like pulling me and
I'm, I, I'm trying to understand, youknow, even in leadership or in, in rooms
and in, um, boardrooms I gravitatedto women and what their stories
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were and what did they need from me.
And I was always in this servicerole, but I always delivered love and
it was a love that was actionable.
It listened.
It was not judging, it waskind, it was empathetic.
And I knew, I was like, this is it.
And so it was something that I justcontinued to kind of like cultivate
(06:29):
on and, and kind of just sit withit and honor it when it would be
present in a room powerful with women.
And I thought, okay,now I, I'm getting this.
And I really got to a place, therewas a pivotal moment in my life
and we're gonna, I know we'll talkmore, but there was a pivot, pivotal
moment in my life when I lost my dad.
and I moved out west and I waslooking, you know, into hiking and
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everything that I had going on.
And you know, coming from the corporateworld, you're really high driven.
Uh, you care about the people, right?
You care about the business.
Um, but you don't get thattime to really self-reflect.
You are always in service.
And I was on a mountaintop and Iremember, um, and now's where I'll
probably get a little emotional.
I remember missing my dad so muchsaying, you're beautiful from the
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inside, and that's what makes you unique.
That's what sets you apart.
Your beauty has never been on theoutside, although from the eyes of
the beholder, you know, half decent.
But inside, my dad would always say tome, your beauty's lying from the inside.
And if you allow that light toshine, right, like you're limitless.
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Now we know.
But he used to say, back in theday, sky's the limit for you.
And I remember being on the mountaintopand saying, I've gotta follow this
beauty, this love this, pull this passion.
Uh, that's in the inside andwhat does that look like?
And she is a love that hasnever, ever experienced a love
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the way that I can give it.
So I say that to say the revelationin a, in aha for me was the way that
I love and the way that I show up inrelationships, be it personal, right?
Friendships, business clients,people around me from the president,
to, my dad would always say tothe homeless, I have a love,
(08:17):
right where I am with you, whereveryou are in your life, where we
show up together, there is just an.
A natural, empathetic, right.
Intuitiveness.
Mm-hmm.
of, let me I see you.
Yes.
Oh, yes.
Yeah.
So that was kind of the aha for me.
And then, you know, as I justcontinued to self-develop, right?
And really invest in, you know,people and coaches and, and, uh,
(08:40):
intuitive leaders, uh, to really say,you know, what is this, what, what
do I even call this thing, right?
Mm-hmm.
. And, um, you know, then goingthrough the branding guru, uh, his
self rich Keller, and, you know,putting that core value in me.
He's like, you're an uplifter.
He's like, But your promisethat you lead with is love.
And it was powerful to me cuz it justreaffirms everything that I, who I am
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and what I do and everything that I touchis really powered by the most highest
energy we can operate in, which is love.
Absolutely.
Oh my gosh, that's so beautiful.
Oh yeah.
I mean I was getting goosebumps cuz Imean just, you know, we do have very
similar stories, which is just so crazy.
And again, one of those things,Everything happens for a reason, right?
(09:23):
Like the people that are putin our life are for a reason.
And it's just, it's likeyou can't make it up, right?
Yeah.
Like the synchronicities you see and justthe, the different themes and just wow.
And I, um, I love that.
Love is this kind of,that's like the core, right?
Is everything is love.
God is love, right?
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Like love is the end all, be all thing.
I think I even saw since, you know,we're just coming off of Valentine's Day,
there was, um, a video I saw of, uh, MelRobbins, I think who I love and I think
is an awesome, um, inspiration person.
But she said, you guys,I've got it figured out.
The secret to life, um, or why we'rehere is to love and be loved, right?
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To receive love and to give love.
And it's like, yes, absolutely.
That is Absolutely it.
And um, you also had something thatI just, I've, I've talked a lot about
too, is just people feel feeling seen.
And that's something that I really wannaoffer as well, is just to let people know.
And again, I like how you said that,that I think that was from your dad,
like from the president to the homeless.
Like I've said that too islike, you know, the homeless guy
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down the street from me is no.
Worse or better than me, right?
Like we are all on thesame equal playing field.
Like we are all just as worthy,um, as, you know, whatever
you, wherever you may be.
And so I loved how you put that.
Like you meet peoplewhere they are at in life.
And that's exactly like what I wanna dois offer people is like this safe space
no matter where you are or what you'regoing through, what pain you're feeling,
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or, or how much you dislike yourself.
Or you think you've made mistakesand you think you've just done
all these things wrong, likeyou are still loved and perfect.
And you're still whole in thatI still see you just as you are.
You don't have to hide and pretend.
And that's something I think we were kindof, yeah, ping ponging on a conversation
recently about that is just we hateseeing people who just get so down.
Um, You know, and kind of let themselvesgo in a way where they might turn to
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addictions or overeating or extremeexercise or whatever they're doing to
numb themselves, like running away andhiding from who they truly are cuz they
don't feel like they can be acceptedor fully be themselves and be loved.
Right?
And to get that love and it'slike, I feel like me and you
are like these changemakers.
I wanna change that and just letwhoever is feeling that way to let
them know like, no, that is wrong.
Like, we are here for you.
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We got you.
We see you.
Yeah.
And you are loved and perfect just as you
are.
Absolutely.
I love that.
And you know, two things, uh, I wannago back to of course, you know, yes.
God is love, right?
And, and having that connectionand understanding, uh, the one.
for me is the love that I feel like Ican get connected to source, connected
to him, uh, from that perspective.
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But that is a love that for me, I channelthat is so powerful that I know, I know
beyond the shadow of a doubt, I lackedit or myself and lacked it from others.
And what I did was, I feel like thatallowed me to see people right to
where they were, was the experiencesthat I've been through, right?
Mm-hmm.
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, my test being, my testimony, my.
being my message.
Yes.
Everything that I feel like I'veexperienced, knowing that it was
like, okay, this is not just for me.
This has to be for a greater purpose.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Because
everything that, even whether I bychoice, by bad mistake or by failure of
my own or by like not self-inflicted andby others doing it to me, whatever that
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was in my life that I was experienced,there was always, um, a fortitude and a
grit and a strength and a courage thatcame through powered deep within that.
I only was broken in the moment.
I never really allowed myself to,even if it was a self sabotaging
moment, it was literally a moment.
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Mm-hmm.
it, it didn't go on farther then.
Right?
So it didn't turn into a week,it didn't turn into a month,
it didn't turn into a year.
It didn't turn into a decade.
, it was about the moment.
Okay, I'm honoring, Ithink this pain, right?
And then mm-hmm.
. Okay.
So I'm at a self-sabotage moment.
I'm at the bottom of a, you know,the bottom of a wine bottle.
What does this look like?
And why am I, you know, and thenit's like, okay, I grieved like
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four family members in 18 months.
Absolutely.
I can see why I would be at the bottomof a, you know, a wine bottle, but
I didn't, I didn't keep it there.
Yes, it's safe, stock.
And one of the things that I feel likeis very hard for people when they do
have those moments in trials in lifeand adversity comes their way, or, you
know, a challenge or a trauma, right?
They don't have someone to be able tosay, this is what I'm feeling right now.
(13:50):
Without either judgment, without aprescription, without putting, locked
away, without being, you know, all ofthe things that I feel like come with
just honor where you are, right?
Mm-hmm.
, . And it's okay.
And we can get through this together,but so many people, I feel like
we lose sight of them or theylose sight of themselves, right?
Yes.
But those who say they lovearen't actually loving in action.
(14:14):
Mm-hmm.
, those who say they are in a, you know, aprofession, um, are they really purposed
in the profession for the people orare they purposed in the profession
for the lifestyle that it yields..
Mm-hmm.
. Yeah.
And you lose sight of peoplein everything that you do.
And you become, and you wanna be, once youlose sight of people or the person, you're
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losing sight of what really matters.
Yes.
So if you go back to Mel Robbins,which I love too, it is about
love and being love, right?
And it is that reciprocityof give, get back, right?
Mm-hmm.
,that's.
. That's the beauty of, I feel likethe love that we can do when we
uplift someone is meeting them,of course, right where they are.
But it's being able to connectwith them and, and things that
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either I've experienced or peoplewho I've helped, or people who you
know, have been in my family orfriendships, like things along the way.
I'm able to draw from just intuitively,naturally, and it's just the thing
that comes when somebody else is onthe other lense or the other side.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
It's just, that's the power of love.
That's when you are operatingin that highest form.
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Mm-hmm.
, it will naturally, automaticallymagnify like exactly what it
needs to do for that person.
Right.
And I don't believe in happenstances.
I don't believe in chance.
Right, right.
I there's some things that, you know, forme, I'm just like, no, there's a reason
for this and, and then you just know.
You just know me.
, absolutely.
Yeah.
But for those who don't knowwhat they don't know, it's very
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hard to come out of the chaos.
The yes sabotage, the addictions, it's,it's, because they just don't know that
there's, there's hope on the other side.
Right?
Right.
That there's another way.
Yeah, there's another way.
There's another way.
But you've gotta do itthrough a loving way.
And love is an action.
You know?
It's how you treat someone.
It's how you make them feel.
What are they leaving your presence with?
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Yes.
You know, we say, talkabout that gift, right?
The actual is a gift, butwhat are you leaving them?
. Yeah.
Like, I wanna leave a fragrance of loveeverywhere that I go, in the rooms that
I step into, the stages that I step on.
Right?
Yeah.
I wanna leave that fragrance andit's, it's a beautiful thing to
be in and I'm honored to be, youknow, to do who it, to do it.
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I get to do it.
That's a beautiful thing.
Yeah.
I get, yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Um, what do you think, um, is thehard, like for people who aren't aware.
For people who don't know what they know.
So like, it sounds like to me, likeyou've kind of always had this feeling
or this calling, which I can totallyrelate and I wasn't really sure what
to call it either, but this like, I habut there's something here that I have
(16:45):
got to get out that I need to follow.
Right.
And um, but I wanna table that for nowand kind of talk about for the people
who maybe don't know, because, youknow, I do believe that we all innately
we come from this place of abundance andcreation, and then we get, we are born
here and we get the, this conditioning andwe, we just forget, like it's like this,
(17:06):
you know, like the men in black thingwhere you are, we forget, like we don't
remember that we are abundant and creator.
. We, we just, we feel like we'rein this limited place and that it,
there's scarcity and it's competitionand it's dog eat dog and mm-hmm.
um, all these things where, youknow, life kind of just beats
us down and people get lost.
Yeah.
And.
You know, I think like, it's weird becauseI know what, what happened for me and how
(17:29):
I kind of started to become awakened orremember, um, and kind of know this stuff.
And it was just me seeking out, honestly,mediumship to connect with my mother who
had passed when we had unresolved issues.
Like that was literally the thingthat opened the door for me to even
explore this whole world of justlove and, and, and, you know, opening
(17:50):
up my spirituality and, and just.
Finding love and self-love andfinding, you know, the power within
me and the love within me, right?
Yes.
But I, I wonder like, what, whatdo, like, I guess the question I'm
trying to ask you is what do you thinkabout people who are lost or don't
see, like, what, what's the way thatthey kind of get awakened or what.
do you see as a solution to help reachthose people who may not even just
(18:13):
have this awareness or ability to pullthemselves out because they can't see
that hope, they can't see that love yet?
Mm-hmm.
, I mean, I think as much as I wannaput it back on the person who can't
see it, I am an accountability soul.
I that there are so many of usout there who aren't truly being
(18:35):
accountable for their calling mm.
And the goal of love is to be led.
Mm-hmm.
by love.
And so I'd like to challenge, andit's part of my mission and vision and
everything else I've got working on willtable later, but I challenge more those
whom have it and are called to do it.
(18:56):
And be that guide and be thatmentor and be that success coach.
Right.
And love for that person.
Mm-hmm.
to find their tribes,to find their people.
because so much someone in sabotage,someone in grief, someone in self-doubt,
someone in imposter, . Right.
Syndrome, competition, just everything.
(19:18):
Right?
They're in failure zone.
They're just continuingto just, you know, revolve
around spiral.
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
. You can revolve aroundit or go farther to rock.
To the rocks.
Rocks, yes.
But the problem I see today is peoplehave a lot of talk and no action.
. Yeah.
And so my mission is to really holdthose accountable who have the calling.
(19:39):
Mm-hmm.
to be able to reach out and go down.
Yes.
And grab a hand
to be the leaders and yeah.
Mm-hmm.
. And so that's where I'm driven.
It feels like that's where Ifeel like my passion lies more.
because they can't find you.
You have to
find them.
Right.
And like, how can you helppeople if you don't go out?
(20:00):
Like, you know, speak upand speak out and reach out.
Right?
Right.
And so
it's about being in the room.
Proximity.
There is power in proximity.
We know that, right?
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
. And so why aren't we as calledto be in the rooms more than
those who are searching, right?
Who are, yeah.
Broken and don't know how to get to us.
(20:20):
Yes.
And so we are failing.
, every time we are not pulling andpassionate out our call, we are
failing those who are falling behind.
And I feel more, um, of the whistleblower,of the one to like put it in a different
lens, in a different perspectivebecause I don't think it's their
fault and how to find us, I think it'sours and why we're not finding them.
(20:44):
I have goosebumps everywhere.
Oh my gosh.
Like I'm fired up because this justlights a fire under my ass, honestly,
because it's something that, I mean,I wrote this on a whiteboard four
years ago that I wanna use my light.
and shine it brightly so that Ican help others light up, right?
Like I wanna be that candlethat lights the next candle.
(21:06):
Like that causes the rippleThat just helps other people.
Like that is so much what I wannado is just to reach those people.
And so you saying this isessentially like your solution is.
To, to get everybody else who has alsohad this calling to stand the fuck up
and let's shout it from the rooftops.
Like, let's get ourselvesout there and say it.
And you know, I think the biggestthing too is that us, um, and
(21:29):
others like us, it's fear.
Like we're afraid to shout it out.
We're afraid it to be condemned by otherideologies or other people that are
like, oh, you know, you know, whatever.
Because people like boxes and they likethings to fit and it's like, I feel like.
a lot of us are about breakingthose boxes and, and acceptance.
Right.
And that there is no, like, youhave to prove yourself, right?
(21:50):
Like you don't have to do X,y, Z in order to be loved.
Right?
Like you are just loved and Right.
Um, and so I think thereis this, like, this fear.
I mean, I know for me too.
Yeah.
Like even.
You know, launching the podcast wasa big deal for me, um, because it,
but it's also so freeing and it'samazing cuz you kind of just get to
say whatever the fuck you want and
Exactly.
(22:11):
be
unapologetic about it.
The people will listen that want to.
And, um, but it is a way to getout there and, you know, um,
so it's like a start, right?
It's a start.
And, and I think you have like, you'reso onto to something with that, like
that is so big and so powerful andjust like I said, that just totally.
Lit me up everywhere cuz it'slike, yes, yes, yes, yes.
(22:32):
Right.
you can do this.
Like please like keep goingout there and um, Yeah.
So just,
yeah, it's, it's powerful I think,and I'm a visual like you are, right?
So I feel like as you were, um,you were talking about seeing the
actual like light up, so your mm-hmm.
light is igniting, right.
These candles to go.
So part of even, you know, mypersonal movement, uh, you know,
(22:54):
that I've been working on kind ofin the background, uh, there's a.
and there's a visual of thelight of love of one that then
calls out all the other lights.
And it goes in like this triangle, right?
This outdoor, like with no end.
Mm-hmm.
. But that's the ignition that we need.
That's the, the igniter, the starter fuel.
But what I, what I feel in the fearaspect that you were talking about,
(23:17):
because it's very real for me aswell, it was, um, was that perfect.
Love casts out all fear.
Meanings true.
I perfectly the best to my ability.
Love me through my Guide, throughmy source, through God, right?
(23:41):
What that is, and that is enough for meto say I am not fearful to step forward.
If I speak alone, I'll speak for themany and I'm truly empowered that way
to say I am no longer fearful of whathe or she may think, what they may
(24:02):
put, you know, this round peg and likethey say in a square hole, whatever
that is saying, but it's like youcan't sit baby in the corner no more.
Like, yes, I'm out here, I'm coming out.
Apologetic.
Yes, I'm co, but with the biggest,boldest, baddest, fearless.
I'm here to move and I'm here tomake a movement, and I'm here to
(24:24):
keep loving in a different waybecause the word's been abused.
It's been, I don't know, I chopped up.
I, it's been so mistreated.
Mm-hmm.
. Um, and I can't wait to heal thatworld again and heal the word of love.
Yeah, like what love really truly meansand what it means to actually action it
(24:47):
out and how it is to show up for others.
And you can't, to me, loveyourself and not love others.
Um, and, and think you're gonna get.
Pretty far in life, right?
You can, there's success.
There's, you know, the monetary,there's other things, right?
That it all, everybody, you know, froma social media perspective puts on what
ide what it ideally looks like, right?
(25:08):
Right.
But for me, you know, success from aday standpoint is what life did I touch?
What life did I uplift?
How did I empower them?
How did I make them feel?
Right.
And all of that is learning fromthe back ends when I didn't make
someone feel so good mm-hmm.
, or that I did get into, um, an entitlementmode or, you know, a positioning mode and
(25:31):
I forgot that I was dealing with a human.
Mm-hmm.
, I forgot that I was dealing with a heart.
When you're entrusted with people'shearts, it's a powerful thing and you
gotta be mindful and you gotta be careful.
But having that understanding of likemindfulness too, of how I love and how
I make someone feel, and I don't everwanna feel a certain way, I would want
(25:53):
never want to impose that on someone else.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
And, and we are our worst criticswhere we do our most self-sabotage.
Nobody can criticize me more,beat me up more than me, myself.
Yep.
Right?
Mm-hmm.
, and, and, and now it's like, now ifI have a moment, I'm not my proudest
moment, I give myself the okay to.
(26:14):
Get pissed off, you know, smasha, b, a pillow or whatever on
the bed, like whatever I have todo and be like, I screwed that.
I'm gonna own it.
You know, like a big Yes,big girl painting is on.
Yes, exactly.
I'm on it.
I mess that up, but I'm gonnafix it and I'm gonna do my best
and it's then no longer on me.
Right.
You're exactly.
Yep.
Cause the key is that once you havealready, I feel like either asked
(26:36):
for forgiveness or you kind oflike, you know, I'm, I'm forgetting
that I'm leaving, I'm severing tiesbad relationship, whatever it is.
And I know we can talk about allthose things, , but um, yeah.
But it's like all, once you do all that,you're like, I've done what I can do.
Yeah, I'm releasing it.
I can't sit there anymore.
Yeah.
It is what it is, essentially.
Right.
And then you just have to moveon and I've gotta move forward.
(26:57):
Yes.
Giving that confidence andin yourself that permission.
Mm-hmm.
to yourself to be able to say, I got this.
It's okay.
Yep.
I'm not perfect.
No one is, right.
Yeah.
And people are flawed every day, but atthe end of the day, did I love myself?
Did I, am I kind to myself when I mess up?
nine times outta 10 people aren't Right.
(27:19):
That's the hardest part, right?
Is like, okay.
Mm-hmm.
kid can mess up and then they, youknow, they ask for forgiveness and
you're, you're almost by, you're in adifferent energy cuz you're, they're,
you're fine the next day, right?
Right.
Or they're fine.
The next moment you'relike, okay, come on.
And you're loving on them.
Like, and we can't dothat for ourselves, right?
Mm-hmm.
. Right?
We can't forgive ourselves.
We can't understand.
Okay, that was a bad moment, abad day, a bad night, bad week.
(27:42):
Okay,
well, I literally just did a, I did apodcast on this like two episodes ago.
It, it's called Forgive You, butthat's literally what it was about,
was about how we keep ourselves stuckby not forgiving ourselves, right?
Like we need to just, you know,if we really mess up, you say,
sorry, you do what you know,and then you move on, right?
You own it and you move on.
Like, it's because if you, youknow, if you get stuck in that
(28:04):
place, And again, you just letyou spiral all out and you're, you
know, you're, you're lost again.
It's like, nope.
You gotta forgive yourself.
Move on.
And remember, you know, thatinner power, that inner love.
I love.
I love love.
I love love, I love, I know.
It's like so brilliant.
So
. Yeah, I do.
I do.
Exactly.
You can't say it in enough languages.
You can't say it in enough.
(28:26):
Um, You know, um, likebody, you know, um mm-hmm.
signs or whatever.
I know.
Like it is a, it is how I feelin your presence and how you
make me feel when you leave it.
Right.
And that is something thatI feel like we are lacking.
Yeah.
We are lacking, lacking, lacking.
And this world would be such a morebeautiful place if we all loved
(28:49):
differently and not meaning theway that people loved previously
and how they abused the word.
Yeah.
But if we now have a new mindsetand a new understanding of what
love should really look like Yeah.
Uh, and how we should action it out.
But I, I'll, I'm gonna saythis because it's so powerful.
Thank you for being whoyou are and your light.
And you do have a callingand I know we tabled it, but
(29:11):
we're gonna come back to that
But, um, you know, the other piece ofit is, is that I can't I can't explain
enough how important it is for all of usto come together and love in this way.
Yeah, and the shift and themovement that can happen when we do.
. Right.
And that we are allowed to love inthe way that we love and the best
(29:32):
form of that, you know, that we knowhow to love and we're taught how
to love properly, then it's like,then that just ignites the world.
Mm-hmm.
. And my goal is to continueto lead and love, right.
And be a servant leader of love, butto make it, make sure it's one person
at a time that no one gets left.
Yeah.
Right.
No heart gets left behind.
(29:52):
So it doesn't matter thelanguage, it doesn't matter,
you know, the sign language, itdoesn't matter, the visual even.
Um, if you can't see a human,you can feel it, feel it.
Mm-hmm.
. Mm-hmm.
, right?
And so that's the, that'sreally the story here.
That's amazing.
I love.
I love it.
I can't stop saying it.
It's just so brilliant and you know, youare such a beautiful person inside and
(30:16):
out, and I think you are just doing suchamazingly wonderful, big things, right?
And this is definitely abig mission that you are.
You know what I wanna say,not spearheading, like Yeah.
I mean, you know, right.
Like you It's my personal charge.
Absolutely.
Yes.
And it is absolutely beautiful.
And you're, like I said, you're doingbig things and I'm so thankful, um,
(30:40):
to have you on the podcast this week.
This was just such a specialexperience and I can't wait to
do some more episodes with youbecause I think we have Yeah, right.
Let's do it.
So much more to talk about.
So, um, I think we'll endit with that Sweet note.
Um, and just, yeah, like I said,what a powerful mission you're on.
And thank, um, thank you.
(31:01):
I'm so excited for you.
And just, thank you again for beinghere and, um, I, I mean, I hope you
guys feel it too when you listen tothis whole conversation because you
know, Energy knows no bounds, right?
Like there is no time or space.
And so even having this conversation,Erica Marie is, you know, I don't know
(31:21):
how 2000 miles away from me right now,but there's still this connection with
our, you know, speaking with each otherover, you know, the, the camera and stuff.
Like, you can feel that energy, youcan feel Erica Marie's passion and her
love is coming through in her words.
And, um, so hopefully you guys canfeel that as you listen to this episode
too, because there definitely isthis energy that's being cultivated.
(31:42):
And, you know, just in her sharingher story and her, her message
and her mission, um, is powerfuland it's filled with love.
So, Erica Marie, thank youso much for being here.
Um, I don't know if you wannashout out any way people can find
you or follow you on social media.
Yes.
Um, social media on Instagram is Iam, uh, emarie underscore official.
(32:06):
@iamemarie_official
Yeah.
Okay, great.
And I can
link it to websites and everything elseare all getting branded in to come.
Uh, so Oh,
that's so exciting.
Lot's coming.
Yeah.
Well I'll keep it updated inthe description of the podcast.
I'll also link her, um, Instagramhandle and then when she does get
her new, um, website and everythingput up, I'll link it back.
You know, I'll backlog it intothis episode and hopefully
(32:27):
future episodes to come.
Um, but thank you againso much for coming.
Um, you all know where to find me.
I'm at Instagram and Facebook@Chelsea.VanBuskirk or website
is chelseavanbuskirk.com and Iwill see you guys all next week.
Peace . Bye.
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