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(00:11):
Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistle blower, an
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth because thisprogram has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender.
And recovering FBI agent Kyle Seraphin.

(00:38):
Well, hello, my friends. Welcome to today's Kyle Seraphin
show. We're going to be throwing some
grenades. I don't think I can help it.
I'm totally incensed by some of the strange things that happened
over the last, what, year? Now we're watching the federal

(00:59):
government stumble through a shutdown while still
functioning. It turns out we're seeing
Republicans take an opportunity,an absolutely golden
opportunity, to do the conservative thing, to do the
thing that we believe Republicans are supposed to do,
which is work for smaller government.
And they're doing the exact opposite.
I think they are demonstrating the corruption.

(01:20):
They are demonstrating the fact that our elections don't
actually change policy and they don't actually change the way
that regular people will experience what goes on in
Washington, DC. It's not like we're about to get
anything different. When I see Josh Howley of
Missouri and I see Tim Burchett of Tennessee go out and cry

(01:43):
about food stamps and SNAP benefits and ABEBT and all the
other sort of government entitlement programs that
Republicans have been fighting against for years, knowing that
they'll shut down, knowing that it'll cause a hard reset.
And they're and they're calling it the Schumer shutdown.
Why do we even have these elections if these people are

(02:05):
not going to step up and do the one thing that we expect them to
do? Why would they act like they are
coming from one side of the political aisle when in reality,
they're all just sitting in the freaking middle and all they
want to do is spend your money irresponsibly.
They do not care about any of the so-called principles.
And everything about it makes mebeg for a really, really hard

(02:28):
reset in this country. I've got little kids, My oldest
is 8, my youngest is 2. I'd be totally fine with it
coming in my lifetime and not intheirs.
So I had someone online to referto me today as an
accelerationalist, and I guess that might be true.
I may be an accelerationist in so much as I would rather that

(02:48):
difficult times happen when my children are too young to
remember it. And that window is fast closing
for me. So maybe we'll get some
spiciness in the next two weeks because we will not have people
do the one thing that they all seem to agree they're going to
want to do, which is give our money away, whether to be the
foreign nations or the people that don't have jobs or people
that are in hard times financially.

(03:09):
This entitlement concept that wehave.
And yet we still should rememberthe party that seems to claim
that they have the universal authority to talk about
patriotism and to understand what the constitutional oath
actually means. Should remember that the
founders of this country did notbelieve, and specifically James
Madison has brought up yesterdaydid not believe, that charity

(03:31):
was part of the legislative dutyof the government.
We can all agree that we should take care of our neighbors and
that Christian charity is an integral part of Western
society, and it always has been.And yet, wouldn't it be nice if
the people in power realize thatthey cannot legislate morality,
they cannot legislate religion, and then they keep telling us

(03:53):
there's a separation of church and state.
So how about you stop forcing charity that I don't want to pay
and allow me to decide how to doit on my own?
You don't even have to be the party of real conservative
values. You could just be the party of
freedom and say that the best freedom is less taxation so that
we can decide more freely what to do with our money, to include
helping our neighbors who are down on their luck.

(04:16):
What I have found is that when I've had more money in my
pocket, I have also found a bigger place in my heart to be
able to offer money to those whoneeded it and resources and
goods. And if I'm not required to work
on behalf of the federal government so that I can pay my
check to them, it turns out I might be able to use more of my
time to volunteer. Since I'm not earning money for

(04:39):
a federal government that doesn't serve me, I can give my
time away to those who may need it.
This is what actual conservatismwould look like.
And we don't have that. And I'm also going to make an
argument today, which is going to be potentially a little bit a
little bit spicy, that last night, yesterday afternoon's

(04:59):
actions by our Federal Bureau ofInvestigation.
You guys know I have a specific fascination with my former
girlfriend. I cannot help it.
They cannot help but make news and point out why they are
terrible at the job and why the $11 billion a year that we
spend, since we're talking aboutmoney should not be spent.
And I'm going to make an argument to you that yesterday's

(05:21):
release of new video footage from our FBI touted by FBI
Director or Deputy Director Dan Blanchino, retweeted and re
shared by the current director, FBI Director Cash Patel.
All of these actions yesterday afternoon should be the nail in

(05:43):
the coffin for the argument thatthe FBI needs to be disbanded.
And I'll just say that with a completely straight face,
knowing that there is good work that people in the FBI do,
knowing people who do decent work within the FBI.
And yet the broad argument is ifa federal agency has been

(06:03):
complicit in an obvious cover upor such such incredible
incompetence that they are unable to ascertain the
identity. At the very minimum the identity
and track down someone who did the most terroristic thing on
supposedly the biggest, most important, most dangerous day to
quote UN quote our democracy. If you listen to the left, the

(06:26):
so-called insurrection that tookplace on January 6th, 2021.
If they are unable to track downsomeone who was caught on video,
who we know for a fact was usingmobile devices that connected to
different networks so therefore was not in a Faraday bag, was
not going through a clean OBSEC experience, Who has been tracked

(06:47):
through cameras and who left physical evidence behind that
was gathered up by our FBI, the nonpartisan American Patriot
FBI. And they are unable to find a
subject that we can at least have.
This is the name and this is theperson.
And we may not be able to find them because maybe they ran off

(07:07):
to Sri Lanka or maybe they're hanging out on the beach in
Fiji. But we are going to at least
tell you this is the person. We are seeking them.
We have identified who this person is.
If they're unable to do that, weare now coming up on five years
from that day. If they are unable to do that,
which is a relatively simple process and one that I have seen

(07:29):
take place in under a month during my time with the FBII
know that they have the capability of doing this with
even less pressure on them. If they can't do that, then
there is almost no argument to continue funding them.
And let me add to the top of that, that not only did they
replace some of the ground levelpersonnel, not only did they

(07:50):
replace the middle level management, but they also
replaced the entire top end of the Bureau, the top 2.
So no longer is this a Chris Rayand a Paula Bate cover up job.
We now have two people that are quote UN quote, our guys and
they cannot deliver. And those two guys just released

(08:11):
proof of more lies. And if that's the case, how on
earth do we allow that organization to continue
existing? How do we spend money out of our
pocket? Because at that point, what
you're telling me is that we arepaying for lies on an
organization that can be fired for telling a simple and stupid

(08:31):
lie that might even be a joke. And if you ask me how I know, my
suspension paperwork and my eventual recommendation for
termination was very clear to point out a joke that I made to
one of my bosses and said that it was a lack of candor, not
underoath. When clearly if you had the
context of it, you'd see that there was a wink, a nod, a
smirk, and a smile that was exchanged between two men who

(08:53):
knew what we were talking about.And if that's enough for me to
lose my job, I think very clearly the obvious evidence
that those people at every levelinside that organization are now
involved in cover up and lies. You cannot make an argument that
it stays out there. How is anyone going to listen to
an FBI agent that works in an organization that did the thing

(09:13):
that it did over the last 4 1/2 years, almost five years, and
take them credibly on the stand unless they are completely
unplugged from reality. So that's where we're going to
go. That's what we're going to do
today. That's going to be fun.
I'm also going to have a specialguest, Steve Baker, because I'm
going to make the argument to him and he's going to say
whatever he has to say that addsto it.
So we'll be bringing him on in just a few moments.

(09:36):
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(10:22):
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(11:03):
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(11:24):
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We're going to be bringing SteveBaker on in just one moment
here. We're going to hit a moving
target because I got to call him.
Let's do. Let's get this thing started.

(11:48):
All right, I want you guys to see this here before I bring on
Steve Baker because it is truly troubling to me.
This is an article that came outin March, March from the most
friendly publication to the current FBI deputy and the
director, and it is by Fox News.It says FBI Deputy Director Dan
Bongino claims that the Bureau is, quote, UN quote, closing in

(12:09):
on suspects who planted AJ6 DC pipe bomb.
The deputy director has single progress in the four year
inquiry into explosive devices that were found near the
Capitol. They weren't actually that near
the Capitol, I guess. But we'll talk to a man who has
seen more surveillance footage than anybody I'm aware of on
this planet. It said he made headlines when
he revealed that the FBI was closing in on the person that

(12:32):
planted 2 pipe bombs and that they were near the Capitol on
that day. Maybe closing the nagging 4 year
mystery, he said. The second we got in, I got a
team on it. I've got a little video of him
making some claims that are pretty big stuff here.
He was on Fox News at the time. So the moment Cash and I swore
in, we realized that the first thing we had to do is rebuild

(12:55):
public trust. This is your FBI.
It's not mine. I tell the employees every day,
You don't own it, You don't own it.
I don't own it. It's like being the center
fielder for the Yankees that'll live with you forever.
But you don't own the Yankees. It's a proud franchise.
The place has taken a reputational hit.
There is zero question about it.There were a lot of bad actors,
one of them still out there causing us all kinds of trouble.

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So we had to fix it and rebuild public trust.
One of the ways to do it is these cases of significant
public interest that matter. You know, we had two pipe bombs
planted on January 6th. I mean, we were told by partisan
actors out there, this was the insurrection.
The world was going to fall apart.
And no one seemed to show any interest in this case.
The second we got in, I put a team on it and I said, I want

(13:38):
answers on this. And I'm, I'm pretty confident
that we're, we're closing in on some suspects.
The we got a the reason, by the way, I use social media with
these cases. I'm trying to communicate on
social media is nothing's by accident, guys.
I do nothing by accident. Every time I put a tweet on it,
we get tips. We got a fascinating tip on one
of these cases, one of the three.

(13:59):
I want to say which one, but I'mpretty confident that we're
going to close out one of them, hopefully shortly.
And then the cocaine in the White House.
You know, I saw someone on social media, which is fine.
Everybody's entitled to an opinion.
We work for you. But said I don't care about the
case. Yeah, I do.
I was a Secret Service agent. So that's Dan Bongino.
He was a Secret Service agent. He cares desperately about this.
He covered this ad nauseam on his podcast.

(14:20):
I'm going to be bringing on my friend Steve Baker, and
hopefully this all works. Steve, can you hear me right
now? I've got you, Kyle.
How are you today? I am very well.
Thanks so much for joining me. Briefly, did you notice that the
FBI put out some brand new information last night?
Well, they put out some information last night.
I look other other than a coupleof a couple of extra steps by

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the alleged pipe bomber, the hoodie guy with the, you know,
the, the, the, as they say, raresneakers.
There was nothing really new there.
A couple of interesting tidbits.There were a couple of locations
that we had not seen, but there wasn't anything else to reveal
who that person was unless maybesomebody by this individual's

(15:11):
gate, the way they walk was, wassuddenly triggered.
But I think we had enough of that on camera already
previously. Now, having said that, I've seen
a lot more video than the average person I've seen, You
know, I've seen the entire trackof the guy, everything that they
showed last night in the, in the, the illustration where they

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showed the, you know, the, the streets that the guy or the gal,
of course the they of them, whoever it is, took the path
that they took between the RNC, the Capitol Hill club, the DNC.
I've seen that. I've seen all of that.
That's so that was nothing new. There was just like I said, a

(15:54):
couple of like ring ring camerasthat, that that were a little
higher quality that that was newto me.
But honestly, Kyle, if I'm beingperfectly honest and I hate, you
know, I hate look, I, I think you're, you're, you're so far
over the our past the ledge in terms of the criticisms of the

(16:19):
new FBI. And although I still am required
by virtue of my, my, my job to show a little bit more
restraint, I, I can't help but just tell you and repeat
something that I said when the old FBI put out the $500,000
reward. And I said that is junk.

(16:41):
They don't ever, I said make it $5 billion because they don't
ever expect to pay it. And that's the problem with
this. So we've got.
This is my argument. I made it just before you came
on and I'm going to try to make it again.
Actually, I'm going to disconnect the audio real quick.
I'm going to reconnect you, Steve, because it sounds like
people are having an issue with that.

(17:02):
So stand by. We'll go ahead and put you back
on here. OK, You should be able to hear
me. OK.
So the argument that I make is this.
We had a a guy named Steve Deantuano.
He was in charge of the Washington field office, right?
He was the special agent in charge of Detroit when they had
the so-called Whitmer fed napping.

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So he's totally comfortable withthings that are, let's call it
on the iffy end of of the moral spectrum.
We'll call that that sort of entrapment line that the FBI
does. My buddies and I call it the
playbook. You're familiar with that.
He was in charge of Washington Field.
He was asked to testify with Thomas Massie and others.
He gave his assessment and he gave some very specific

(17:44):
statements about the pipe bomber, some other things about
January 6th. So that manager was switched out
and I'm, as I recall, I believe he was switched out for a guy
named Dave Sundberg. And Sundberg was then switched
out for Steve Jensen and now Jensen has been replaced as
well. So we've had what, 4 different
people run the Washington Field office in the time since the the
pipe bomb was discovered. So I'm going to call that a

(18:06):
complete management switch at Washington Field.
Is that fair? Yes, Sir.
OK. We had Chris Ray, Paula Bate,
we're the two that's number one and the number 2 that were at
the FBI, you know Hoover Building that were running
things at the top of the the ticket and they have been
swapped out for Bongino and CashPatel.
So we had a total management shift at the executive, the
senior, the most senior executive level as well.

(18:29):
Right. We were also told by Bongino
multiple times that he put a whole new group of people on,
that they started from square 1:00 and that they have been
reinvestigating this case since he came in, which was sometime
in March of this year. Is that does that all square
with what you know correct? It's all all correct.
All right. And if all of that stuff is the
case, and I believe that they are, I think that my my math is

(18:50):
correct. What we just saw after what are
we in we're in October. So after 10 months, the FBI has
released less than two minutes new footage on their new reward.
Please let us know what's going on video.
And it's my operating belief right now they did that
specifically because you and Johanneman and The Blaze and

(19:13):
maybe in a small part even the Kyle Seraphin Show and Steve
Friend were able to talk about what they hoped they were going
to be able to pin this on, whichwas a training exercise where
they tried to say no harm, no foul.
And they're unable to do that. And so now they're back to
square 1 and they're back to lying to us.
Will you poke any holes in that logic if you can?
Well, I can't, but I, let me, let me let me tell you they I

(19:34):
think they made a mistake last night on this release and in
this video. If you go back and watch that
video again, they actually one single time make the remark that
at one point early on when the alleged bomber is carrying his
backpack, that there was only one bomb in the bag at that

(19:56):
moment. Did you catch that?
I did not, but you're far more sophisticated at listening to
that that tape than I am. Well, this is something that our
investigator, the guy that I've been working with for a year and
a half, who helped us put together this story that came
out a couple of weeks ago, the guy that we refer to as
Armitage. He has been making that point

(20:19):
since the earliest days of my relationship with him going back
a year and a half ago, that there was a point somewhere
where he had to retrieve or to acquire rather the second bomb.
He was able to calculate by the way the individual carried the

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bag that there was only one bombat a time.
And that and I could not believe, I think, well, first of
all, they left the FBI left so much known information out of
that presentation last night, this new 8 1/2 minute video,
whatever it is. And they left so much known
information out. And I think that if you're, if

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you're genuinely looking to capture this person or identify
this person and give that $500,000 away, you would give
out as much as you possibly can know that's not classified.
Well, we also know now that thisindividual first attempted to
place the pipe bomb at the Congressional Black Caucus

(21:23):
offices. And that's not been said by the
FBI. That has not been said by the
FBI. They also have left out another
key point. We everybody keeps saying
DNCRNCDNCRNC. Well, it's never was the RNC.
The bomb was placed behind the Capitol Hill Club, which is a
Republican private club where you know, the GOP mucky bucks,

(21:49):
the congressman and senators hang out such as that.
And then, but there's also a congressional dormitory right
there as well. And so it's, it's hard to really
know what the target was, whether it was the dormitory or
whether it was the Capitol Hill club.
My estimation is, is that if we go look and this is brand new,

(22:13):
you're getting brand new speculation.
For me, I like brand new speculation came up with in the
last last 48 hours. My estimation is, is that it was
much more essential because, andthis is this is only only
because I now know that the original target for the DNC bomb
was the Congressional Black Caucus office building.

(22:35):
The DNC was the backup, or it was an audible call that night
when this this alleged bomber was on the phone, both audio and
texting with whoever its handlerwas or is.
Can I, can I interject some question to your speculation, if
we take that to what it is, thatthe original target was
something that there was either an audible or it was a yeah,

(22:57):
like it was a, it was a backup plan because we don't know what,
what are we going to do? It's doesn't fit here or it's
not appropriate. And then it was dropped over at
the DNC. Is it possible that whoever was
involved in this didn't realize that they were going to be
bringing Kamala Harris there at that time?
So that actually caused a wrinkle in the plan, hence the
weird sort of reaction that evenpeople like Deputy Director Dan

(23:20):
Bongino called out when he was apodcaster.
Does that? Does that square with you?
Yeah, well, there there's tons of wrinkles in the plan and
there's a cascading set of events that took place that were
not scheduled. And that and those actually are
are can fall right on the shoulders of then President
Trump has first didn't know at the end of his first term.

(23:41):
Trump was supposed to take the stage at the Ellipse that
morning for his final speech as president at 11 AM.
He did not arrive until 11:57 AM.
So he was an hour late taking the stage.
He was only supposed to speak for an hour.
But Trump being Trump, he went over that and he stayed on that
platform and he he left. He actually walk off the

(24:03):
platform at exactly 116. So, you know, hour and 19
minutes that he was on on the stay, 14 minutes that he's on
the stay or whatever it is. And so and So what ended up
happening is all of the what seems like to me the plans that
were happening up at the Capitolwere thrown off timing and and

(24:28):
so nobody really knew when to find the bombs.
OK, well, the president still onthe stage, whatever will.
But I think those plans were already put in place because
what was scheduled after the endof Trump's speech, which was
supposed to happen at 12:00 PM, then everybody was scheduled to
walk over. There was a couple of scheduled

(24:48):
marches. There were six legally permitted
events of what they call First Amendment protest events
scheduled on the Capitol lawn and on the Capitol grounds
there. They had a couple of stages with
PA systems. There were VIP speakers.
They were even scheduled some Congress, Congress members were
were going to be speaking from in those stages.

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And so everybody was to be over there.
And those events were scheduled to begin at 1:00.
Well, the president didn't leavethe stage till 116.
So now nobody knows what to do. And then all of a sudden you see
a guy by the name of Ray Epps lean over whispering Ryan
Samsal's ear. 1252 and 2 secondslater, Samsal charges the

(25:34):
barricade. Can you, you, you brought this
up on our yeah, you brought thisup on our last sit down on, on
one of the Sunday shows. But not everybody listens to
those. We have a bigger audience for
the daily. Can you say what the change is?
Because he was asked about that.I guess Samsung was asked about
it and, and maybe Ray Epps as well.
Can you can you summarize what was said and then what was the
the edit on that saying and whatyou speculate that means?

(25:57):
Yeah, but both originally testified and Ray UPS his his
testimony has stayed the same. Is that under questioning under
his January 6th Select Committeetranscripted interview, which is
Underoath? He said that what he leaned over
and whispered in Sansol's ear was a, you know, calm down.

(26:19):
You know, you know, take it easy, buddy.
Because he had already ripped his jacket off, turned his hat
around, and he was taunting the,you know, the half dozen capital
police officers that were guarding that perimeter against
anywhere from 500 to 2000 peoplewho had already gathered there.
And so he was he was taunting them.
He says that he told him to calmdown.
Ryan Samsal corroborated that and originally said that he was

(26:42):
told them to stand down. And then later on, Samsal
changed his story and said that actually what Ray Epps told him
to do was, you know, wait a moment, we've got, you know,
help is coming. In other words, the implication
being we've got we actually whathe said was we have more guys
coming. So just wait, wait, wait, don't

(27:03):
get, don't get ahead of yourself.
We've got more of our guys coming.
Perfect. So one of those is true.
Samsel. Samsel Yeah, one of them's a
lot. Yeah, we're none of them are
true. I guess they could both.
They could all be lies. Yeah, that's, that's, that's,
that's absolutely correct. But the bottom line is, is that
at that moment, at 12:52, it wasgame on.

(27:24):
It was, in fact, the protesters that drew first blood when they
because Samsung knocked said hername.
Oh, yes. Officer Carolyn Edwards.
She was the first injury of the day.
She fell back, hit her head, concussed on a concrete step.
And, and then, and then everybody ran, you know, past
her and, and ran up to the next barricade line.

(27:44):
And, and then it was, you know, only about 20 minutes later that
the less than lethals began to be launched.
And now, and we're going to be revealing this very soon, we
have captured on video the the arrival of those teams.
And the interesting thing about these teams is that they are
using their their much higher, higher level of training.

(28:07):
These are officers who receive, I don't, I, I hesitate to say
that anybody at Capitol Police has SWAT level training, but
they are being trained on on they are, they are being trained
on weapons that are typically reserved for slot level or
higher level crowd control. So for instance, you have your

(28:30):
civil disturbance units, which the Capitol Police has the CDU,
as they say, well, these are CDUofficers that are trained at
other locations, specifically onhigher, more more powerful, what
they call, you know, these less than lethals.
And, and so they arrived not only with these much more higher

(28:54):
powered weapons, but they arrived before the breach.
And this, this is a brand new discovery.
We've just made this discovery in the last 48 hours.
I'm actually pretty excited to to bring this story out as we're
piercing it together, But we seethem being delivered to the
Capitol in unmarked white vans at 12:39 AM.

(29:19):
So that's a full 13 minutes before the 1st barricade breach,
and almost simultaneously to thediscovery of the first bomb,
went over behind the Capitol. Yeah.
When was the first bomb discovered?
What time was that? Oh yeah, it's it, it was about 5
minutes before the 1st barricadebreach.

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So right, right in between the the delivery of these special
blessed and lethal CDU officers and then barricade breach at
12:52. It was right in between there.
I remember the discovery of the DNC pipe bomb is that that was
at one O 5 simply because I've spent more time gradually

(30:02):
analyzing that than I have the RNC bump.
So I forget the other one, but the the DNC bomb was discovered
at 105 by a plainclothes CapitolPolice officer who was counter
surveillance and he had a partner and they found the bomb
at one O 5 notified the Secret Service sitting in the big black

(30:24):
SUV. Secret Service finished their
lunch for a couple of minutes before they got out to inspect
what that discovery was. They had no they had no urgency
or immediacy in their actions whatsoever, although they're
even though their car was only 15 feet away from an alleged
bomb. That seems a little little odd,
but but this is where I'm headedin kind of this quick recap is

(30:50):
this video that they keep showing us, and I put it on my X
page. It's pinned to the top of my X
page right now. It's the two videos from the
DNC. These are not Capitol Police
videos. These are not traffic videos
that would be managed by the Metropolitan Police and the
other jurisdictional areas of the Capitol.

(31:13):
These are actual security cams from the Democratic National
Committee building. Outside.
There's two cameras. They gave us a little bit more
than the, I think the 15 or 30 seconds that we'd already seen.
They gave us a little bit more last night from those two
cameras. Actually, even at one point,
show us a side by side synced upfrom two different angles as the

(31:36):
guy was leaning down to place the bomb.
All right, So we got to see thatfrom those two cameras.
What is the most madding? How do we say it?
Either either that's all they have and they do not have the

(31:57):
next 17 hours, or they're withholding the most important
video of the entire J6 of that, which nobody has seen in the,
you know, the the media, nobody at Congress has seen it, nobody
anywhere else. The only possible entities that

(32:17):
could have this video would be FBI and or the DNC.
And that video shows what happened at 4:20 or 4:40 in the
morning when that bomb was replaced are picked up and
retrieved. And then it shows at 8:30 in the

(32:38):
morning when 8 or 9, which we capture on a long, long, long
range traffic camera where 8 or 9 Secret Service agents are
doing their, you know, their sweep around the building
because the then vice president,president-elect was about to be
arriving there in a few hours. And so they're sweeping that.
I mean, they're, there's eight or nine of them, Kyle, right

(33:00):
there. You know what there, there's,
there's not a if you go back last night when they zoom in and
show you where you, they left where this guy allegedly or, or
I'm sorry, it, they then left the bomb where you see this
thing. It's impossible, Kyle.
It is not possible for 8 or 9 Secret Service agents.

(33:22):
I don't care how low IQ they areto not see it.
It's impossible. So and.
Let's say, But they didn't. Right, They did not because it
probably wasn't there based on what you know, we know that the
footage that would prove that isnot being given.
There's a, there's no chance theFBI doesn't have that footage
and the DNC knows what it is as well.

(33:44):
And So what that tells me, I'm going to summarize, I'm going to
make some, some, some logical leaps from what you said.
And then you see if you can punch holes in the logic, I'd
happy play devil's advocate for me.
The, the, the, the DN CS security camera footage will
show the 17 hours after the alleged bomb was placed, any
movement that happened, the security sweeps that took place
by the Secret Service. It would show all of those

(34:06):
things, including if the bomb was was replaced or moved or
taken and then replaced at a later time.
And all of the things including the discovery would have very
good footage of that. Is that accurate?
That's absolutely correct. We would see we don't have only
the eight, the 8:30 arrival, we would see the bomb dog sweeps.
There were two different bomb dog sweeps.
We would see those and then we would see what we suspect

(34:28):
happened was that the bomb was returned at between 1:00 and one
O 5. Right now, you went to a bunch
of trials for J Sixers. You were able to find, you know,
sit down and listen to the FBI give their assessment of how
they determine where these people were and how they tracked
them and all the sort of stuff behind this.
Do you have a general impressionthat the FBI does not have
competency to be able to gain access to security camera

(34:51):
footage that points directly at a thing that they are interested
in in investigating? Well, Kyle, if they have any
competency whatsoever, it's, youknow, hey, can we have your
footage from such and such a time to such and such a time?
It's not hard. No, I've done those.
Knock the talks, you go knock onthe door, you say, hey, look, we
can get a warrant for it. If you'll give it to us

(35:11):
voluntarily, Great. Otherwise, I'll come back here
with some paperwork. We'll either subpoena or we'll
get a search warrant and we'll claim it.
And you know, but if you don't mind, then we'll just take it
with us. If we can get a copy and people
are 5050 on whether they will orwon't depending on their policy,
it's no big deal. The DNC would also.
Have access and if they acquired, if they acquired yes.
If they acquired the the the DNCfootage from 7:30 PM on the 5th

(35:33):
to 8:00 PM on the 5th. Then they.
Don't not have the next 17 hoursall.
Right. So I'm going to just say that
the FBI had this footage and they've had this footage for
probably almost five years. On top of that, the the FBI
mentioned in their their cases against J Sixers the pipe bomb

(35:55):
as one of the things that led towards terroristic
enhancements. I know it was cited in various
different indictments and criminal complaints to be able
to show the severity. It was part of what was called
the running affidavit, which wasbeing used as a general
statement of these are the events and this is how bad it
was. And these are the people that
were injured and so on and so forth.
And they pushed this out as theywent after and arrested almost
2000 people, including you. You were one of the people who

(36:17):
was also arrested. When all this stuff goes down,
we know they have footage of it.Is there any reasonable, honest,
good faith argument that could be made that the FBI withheld
this footage for a a lawful law enforcement purpose while they
are simultaneously releasing other footage trying to get
access to the public's knowledgebase and identify this person

(36:39):
who dropped these bombs? Is there a good reason that you
can think of that would make them withhold it?
There is zero reason to withholdthat video.
But in addition to them withholding that vital 17 hours
worth of video, which will tell the rest of the story of what

(37:00):
many of us suspect actually happened between 7:30 and that
night and 1:05 the next day, is that then actively someone in
the Capitol Police Command center turned away the three
most important Capitol Police cameras that they have control

(37:20):
of up in their command center. They somebody ordered the three
most important cameras to be turned away from the
investigative scene. They were turned at full 90°
angles away from the bomb investigative scene to view
nothing. Perfect.
Which was also and and we know that was, we know that was
manpowered. That was a manpowered a human

(37:44):
command decision to move those cameras away.
And there were only two people with the command authority to do
that that were in the command center that day.
We know their names. All right, I'm going to leave it
right there. I'm going to show some other
things that I think are also really important, including the
fact that the FBI has had problems of, oh, wait, not
problems catching pipe bombers historically because they do

(38:05):
that sort of thing. It's a skill set that the FBI
has demonstrated they have. We're going to cover that in a
second here. But Steve, will you please plug
where your work is going to be found?
People need to bookmark this page.
If you care about this story andif you care about the fact that
the government has been lying toyou and you want to see someone
who's out there dedicated to proving it, maybe even to the to
the detriment of your own accessto some of the people that are
the players in this game. Steve.

(38:26):
We tell people where, what, what, what page to bookmark.
Yeah, First of all, any, you know, quick updates or questions
or, or when I call bullshit on the FBI for something that'll be
on the my, you know, ex account.So that's Steve Baker USA at
Steve Baker USA. And then obviously at the Blaze
is where we put out our stories,Joe and I this morning early,

(38:49):
you know, like 536 o'clock, whatever it was when we were
private messaging each other. Joe Hannemann, my colleague, we
agreed that we were going to do a follow up on our story from 2
weeks ago because of this new release.
But the, but the, the follow up is not, you know, not only to,
to talk about the news that the FBI has, but in, in fact,

(39:09):
there's no news there. They're still avoiding the big
questions, the things that are known we know, things that we
have presented to the FBI ourselves that they're not
revealing. I mean, if you.
Want to catch this guy? If they want, if they want to
catch this guy, yeah. No, if they want to catch this
guy is the real question. I think you used the right one.

(39:30):
And not because they want to. There's no assumption based on
that. And that's going to lead to this
final question that I have for you.
And it's probably a real simple answer.
I guess you've dealt with the previous FBI and Congress when
the Republicans were not in charge of things.
And now they claim to have access to all of it, including
the executive. So that should theoretically
open up all the doors and all the answers should be available
to people that want to know the answers.

(39:53):
Is there a significant difference between dealing with
the previous governmental entities in the, let's call it
January 2021 up to November or January of 2025 and today?
Is there any difference between this FBI and that FBI which
they're so happy to delineate? The only real difference that I

(40:14):
perceive and as it personally affects me is that I only had
one particular agent that seemedto, you know, not like me and
hated my guts and wanted to put me in prison and that was, you
know, a special agent. Craig Noya is out of the Cary,
NC resident agency. He still.

(40:35):
Has a job? Does he know he still works
there? Yeah, he does.
Yeah, he does. And the and and so the only
significant difference as it affects me is that now the 7th
floor hates my guts. I'm not so sure the 7th floor
under the previous and the old FBI even knew who I was.
I agree, but this one does. Yeah, no question.

(40:56):
All right, well, that's it. I'm going to put your your link
in the To the Blaze articles andwe'll put your your handle below
it when I update the show notes.So if you guys are seeing this
in the after effect, you guys will see it there.
But otherwise, make sure you're following Steve.
And we're going to, we're not going to let this go.
I'm not going to let it go. I don't think you're going to
let it go either. Steve no, not absolutely not.
It's too important. This is this is a game changer.

(41:17):
I mean, there, there are there are only two or three things
that can absolutely dismantle the narrative in such a dramatic
way that even the mainstream media will not be able to
suppress it. And the pipe bomb story is one
of those stories I tend to. And if, if, if, if the truth is

(41:38):
revealed in the direction that we think it's going, if it
doesn't, then I'll step back andgo, oops, got that one wrong.
But you know, we got it wrong because you look, intelligence
agencies are the worst. Government in general is the
worst at creating conspiracy theories because because they

(42:00):
don't they don't tell us the truth to begin with.
That's right. And so they leave it.
They leave it to us to come up and research and come up with
alternate theories. In our case related to the pipe
bomb. It's not so conspiracy when we
have on film the alternate drop points and the other plans that
are are were apparently in play that night the night before that

(42:22):
then had to be altered in the middle of the night.
Yeah, and just as a summation, what it seems like from
listening to all of your discussion of it and the videos
that I've watched and and Armitas and sort of the the
following his account, it does seem like that there was a
narrow plan. And as things started going
wrong, which is the classic thing that happens if you work
in the military, you know what this is about?
The the minute that you meet contact with the enemy or you
take your plan into the field, you take it off the academics

(42:44):
and you move it into reality, things go wrong.
And when they do, that's when things got less and less tight,
more and more sloppy. And we see more and more of that
on video because it's pretty apparent that things were not,
this was not the plan, like somebody is now executing an
alternate or a contingency plan.Exactly it 100%.
But we'll do this again real soon.
Thanks for jumping on with me last minute.

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It's nice picking you up, even if we have to do it by phone.
I appreciate it and now I got togo hit the road again.
All right, hit the road. Get to work.
Thanks buddy. Talk to you soon, thanks.
Very good. All right, so that's Steve
Baker, folks. Steve's one of my favorite
people when he gets this stuff done, he is like a dog with a
bone on this story, and he's notgoing to let it go.
And I'm going to give you some more information in just a
second here as well, including some words from a real tough

(43:27):
talker who many of us used to think was going to bring some
some, let's call it transparency.
That's their word they like a lot.
They were going to bring this guy was going to bring some
transparency to this situation. And I'm going to show you that
it was a lot of talk for quite awhile.
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(43:49):
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(44:10):
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Should we do should we do some video?
Let's do video. I want to do a video right now
of these people from the FBI whoput out this thing yesterday.

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And for those of you who listen to our episode with Joe
Hanneman, which I think was our most popular episode so far this
year, you will have seen this asthe lead off.
It turns out what they did was add a couple of minutes of some
Ring Cam footage, a little bit more footage, but essentially
it's the same damn message with the same person narrating.
The FBI is continuing to say thesame thing, quote UN quote, this

(45:38):
and that FBI are the same. That's the argument I'm going to
make to you and both of them. You need to be removed at this
point because this is what happens when you straight up lie
to the American people and you act like you're trying to give
away a $500,000 reward when in reality you have the footage.
And the odds of them not knowingwho this person is, is basically
none. And it turns out that the guy
who's sitting in the number two chair also used to tell this

(46:03):
back when he was allowed to tellthe truth.
On January 5th, 2021, between 7:30 and 8:30 PM, an
unidentified individual place pipe bombs near the offices of
the Democratic National Committee and the Republican
National Committee in Washington, DC.
As we mark the four year anniversary of the night the
pipe bombs were placed on Capitol Hill, the FBI and our

(46:25):
partners are renewing our call for tips from the public to help
us identify the suspect. We are releasing additional
details about the suspect, as well as previously unreleased
video of the suspect placing thebomb at the Democratic National
Committee. A reward of up to $500,000 is
available for information that leads to the arrest and

(46:47):
conviction of the individual responsible for this attempted
attack. All right, so that is the claim
being made by the lovely people over at the Bureau on the end of
January, at the end of January of this year as they kicked off
the year. And then we've got this other
little story, which is also, I would say, fairly incriminating.

(47:08):
What's going on here? Why is it that they are making
the same exact argument with thesame exact music, with the same
exact visuals? Here we are, what, nine months
plus into the quote UN quote, new FBI.
It's going to take me a second to pull this thing up, but give
me one SEC. Here it goes.
On January 5th, 2021, between 7:30 and 8:30 PM, an

(47:32):
unidentified individual place pipe bombs near the offices of
the Democratic National Committee and the Republican
National Committee in Washington, turns N on New
Jersey Ave., and then pauses near the corner of D Street
before retracing their steps back to the DNC bench where the

(47:55):
first bomb is placed. It's the same music, it's the
same visuals, it's the same presentation.

(48:15):
I was letting it run a little bit because for those of you who
are just listening, you were missing some video footage of
this choppy, crappy, downgraded aspect ratio changed video that
was released to the public. You just heard Steve Baker,
who's seen more of this footage than, as far as I can tell, any
person alive, and he told you real specifically that if they
wanted to show you what happened, they would release 17

(48:37):
more hours or pieces of that 17 hours to the public and show
them what happened. It's the same, you know, eerie
music. I think when you watch these on
TV and you watch the subtitles on like I do, it'll say things
like eerie music or Moody music or ethereal music.
It's all very suspicious sounding.

(48:58):
It's really easy to begin to getto the bottom of this stuff and
we had a guy that was promising certain things before he got
there. Here's the argument again.
I'll make it again. We've changed the management at
the top. The director and the deputy
director are brand new and they are quote UN quote our guys.
We've had multiple management changes at the mid level,

(49:18):
including the people that ran the Washington field office that
went out there and testified certain things, real specific
things. By the way, I have the testimony
in front of me, so we might reada little bit from the Thomas
Massie testimony of Steve d'antuino, whose face, by the
way, is on the thumbnail today. And we had the investigators at
the bottom end changed out and in nine months, they were unable

(49:41):
to get anywhere. And they're still releasing the
same BS $500,000 lead. What does that mean?
I'm going to read something to you because I had a question
this morning when I jumped on and looked and said what?
What experience do the FBI even have with people placing pipe
bombs? Some of you may not know, but it

(50:03):
was a pretty famous case. And it was something that I
almost deployed to with my team.And it happened in March in
2018. I remember hearing about it.
I remember that people I knew went and worked on this case.
They were sent from all over thecountry.
And some of you may recall therewas a guy that was doing some
sort of bombing exercise in the city limits and in and around

(50:24):
the area of Austin, TX. Yes, I see the chat saying the
Unabomber. Yeah, there was a Unabomber, it
turns out, slightly different animal.
I'm talking about the modern FBI.
I'm talking about the same people that were working for the
FBI on January 6th also had great success in Austin, TX in
March of of of 2018. There was a person that's been

(50:46):
referred to easily as the AustinPipe Bomber.
His name was Mark Anthony ConditCONDITT.
Look it up for yourself if you are so inclined.
His first explosive device was placed on March 2nd of 2018 and
it detonated at a residence. These were going through what
looked like FedEx type drop offsand were being delivered through

(51:07):
FedEx locally. He eventually killed himself in
a bomb and confrontation with a SWAT officers, I believe from
Round Rock Police Department on March 21st of you're going to be
shocked to hear this, 2018. That was 19 days after the first
explosive went off and those were actually bombed.

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Now, they actually didn't catch intact devices.
They were getting devices after they'd already detonated.
So the same FBI that existed on January 6th of 2021, within a
couple of days, the same people are going to be at the lab.
The same people in general are going to be experts on this
stuff. It took them 19 days to run down

(51:49):
and fatally confront somebody who was dropping pipe bombs.
There were a number of them. I think there may have been this
total of 5 explosions that occurred in the Austin area.
And that's what the AI says. And that sounds right.
Five different explosive devices.
Well, you have less than that inWashington, DC.
You have plenty of camera footage.
They were able to ID this personin 19 days from surveillance

(52:10):
footage from the inside of a FedEx where he was dropping off
the actual packages. They were able to trace the
stuff back. We've got all the same
capabilities that you would havethere.
Footage, route, timeline, place,mobile, mobile devices being
used, tower data and dumps. If they could find somebody in
19 days in 2018, why has it taken almost five years to have

(52:34):
nothing to show, not even the name of somebody when something
happened in 2021? Theoretically, the technology
would be better, they'd be more sophisticated, they would have
better capabilities in the lab division.
Why is that? To me, it tells me that there is
no difference between the previous FBI and the current
FBI, that we spend $11 billion ayear on an agency that Steve

(52:55):
Baker just basically is saying nicely because he's got to still
play nice within the sandbox there.
They lied to us and they've beenlying to us because the footage
they just released last night, which is supposedly new, has
been had for years. They didn't just go recover
this. It didn't come from somewhere
that wasn't previously accessible.
It is always been accessible to the FBI, just like the DNC

(53:16):
footage that would show us what really happened on that day and
on that night and the morning of.
And he's honing in on a great theory, which is really scary.
And there's details I'm not going to share because he's
telling me stuff behind the scenes on his story.
But let's just say that that timeline is unique.
And the fact that Donald Trump talked long lends more and more
to a concerted effort to have a visual and physical and violent

(53:39):
disturbance that would move along the narrative, which we've
heard that word come right out of Nancy Pelosi's mouth.
And it turns out some people actually used to know that
stuff. We have to remember there were
people who used to say that stuff out loud, bravely
regularly, and said they weren'tgoing to let the story go.
One of those guys is someone that we all used to listen to

(53:59):
and thought, Yep, when this guy gets in there, he's not going to
let them lie to him. You ready for #2?
Here's another one separate whistle blower reaches out to me
and this I've been working on for a while.
This isn't new, folks. Let's just get this out of the
way about January 6th. It is now confirmed that, I

(54:21):
mean, you knew this in advance. So this part, that's why I put
this first. This is not breaking news.
However, I can confirm to you, in case you were even remotely
deluded about it, say you're a lefty watching my show, that the
FBI 100% had undercovers in the crowd on January 6th.
I know you know that, I'm just saying Christopher Wray's been
shady about it and others. I'm telling you from a source on

(54:44):
the ground with photo evidence to back it up.
The FBI and other agencies, not just the FBI, by the way, had
multiple undercovers on the ground on January 6th, period.
There's now no disputing it. I've seen the evidence #2.

(55:04):
Let me just say right now that if he's seen the evidence prior
to being the FBI deputy director, shouldn't he also have
seen the evidence while he was FBI deputy director?
They came out and stated that there were none, no undercovers
in the crowd. And the reveal that they gave
was that they, they, you know, deployed 274 people after the
fact for quote UN quote, crowd control measures.

(55:26):
How does that happen? How does that guy go from I've
seen the evidence I've got all the sources.
I'm I'm Mr. Government insider and I make millions of dollars a
year telling you about it to Epstein killed himself and we
don't know who the pipe bomber is And while I was wearing a
shirt that said cutesy time on it.
I was telling you definitively that folks have pointed me in

(55:49):
the direction where these were. The FBI has not admitted to
having undercovers in the crowd.Contrary to what anyone may have
put out, whether it be John Solomon or anyone else or Donald
Trump. The FBI never admitted to
undercovers in the crowd. But the grand theory that is
continuing to develop and I think Steve Baker would agree
with me whether or not he can doit out loud yet because of his
employment or is another animal.I think what is going on is, I

(56:10):
think that Congress, members of Congress, potentially
congressional staffers or otherspotentially in coots with the US
Capitol Police, this is a kind of speculation zone.
It's hard to say where they wereinvolved.
But Capitol Police and maybe congressional staffers were
involved in setting this game upand playing it out on a timeline
that got interrupted by Donald Trump himself as he continued to

(56:31):
speak longer than he was plannedto.
And then we found ourselves in that really weird space where
the plan falls apart and everybody goes and blames the
one thing they only know. One agency, just like many of
you will say when something is, is a lie from the government.
It was the CIA. How many of you feel that way?
Oh, it was the CIA that's lying to us.

(56:52):
They set this thing up. When in reality, it could be the
DIA, it could be something from NSA, it could be one of the
other intelligence agencies or intelligence divisions within
other agencies. And you just don't know the
difference because you're just not a sophisticated consumer of
the intelligence community. And I'm not a sophisticated
consumer of all the different entities and what they may or
may not do, They all have different compartmentalizations.

(57:13):
So we, broadly speaking, should be saying the United States
intelligence community, but we just casually and lazily say the
CIA did it, OK. And we're all guilty of that.
The same way when people think about federal law enforcement,
they also say the FBI did it. But what they really mean is
federal law enforcement, which is a much broader category.
The problem is, is that our senators and our congressmen are

(57:36):
equally unsophisticated about this groups of government.
And so they go out and ask the FBI director specifically, did
you have Undercovers in the crowd?
And you get Chris Ray or Kash Patel saying underoath.
No, we did not have Undercover'strademark because Undercover is
a specific brand of training that is given to certain FBI
agents where they are now branded when they are now able

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to market themselves as FBI undercover operatives, FBI
undercover agents who operate asgraduates of the FB is
Undercover training program. It's very specific.
I worked under a a what would call nominal backstop.
I had the opportunity to get fake IDs that were real IDs.

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They would run through and scan.I could fool a local cop,
probably with it. Insurance.
We could get credit cards in those names.
Credit history, nominally backstop, but if you went to the
address, you wouldn't find anything that showed that I
lived there. We didn't rent an apartment in
my name. That's what a real intercover
operation looks like. This is the opposite.
This is something that doesn't do that.
There's an entire part of the FBI that does undercover

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operations and sets up the mechanics of it.
They're called Stagehand. I don't know if I've ever said
this on the on the program, but there's an entire organization
within the Bureau, the FBI specifically called Stagehand,
which sets up all of the backstop, the legends for the
FBI that does real undercover. And then there's people from
Stagehand that will just help guys like me who are doing
surveillance that might just need an ID to pass basic

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scrutiny and eyeballs. So you could have had guys like
me in the crowd and they wouldn't be considered
undercover. And because we are so
unsophisticated in the questioning, we're asking, was
the FBI involved in the setup? And the answer is probably not,
no. What happened most likely is set
up by Capitol Police and or congressional staffers, some
amalgamation thereof covered up by that group and maybe some

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parts of DHS. It sounds like DHS may have been
involved. That includes people like Secret
Service. And then you end up with the
third entity. The FBI did the investigation
and the FBI's investigation was 100% all in on arresting people
on terroristic charges and terroristic enhancements.
So that means the DOJ entities were involved, but the plausible

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deniability would be that they didn't actually incite or set it
up because you wouldn't want thesame people setting up the the
operation and then knocking downthose same bowling pins.
That's a little too on the nose.And the same guy that was
involved in what happened in theGretchen Whitmer case.
The same person who was the special agent in charge there
who got raped over the coals forit.
I don't think Steve d'antwano was dumb.
He's actually fairly sophisticated in his language,

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and we're going to play some of his language.
First I want to play Thomas Massie asking Chris Ray some
questions. Then I'm going to play old
information of Tom Massie talking about what he
discovered. And then I'm going to read from
the testimony of Steve d'antwano.
It is incredibly clear to me that both FBI, this FBI and that

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FBI are 100% engaged in lies to the American public.
They are doing so under the the,the veil and the illusion that
they are being transparent and that they are trying to find
this person that you saw Dan Bongino say he even knew that
there was stuff going on there and that he had whistleblowers
coming to him. And the fact of the matter is he
was full of crap. He's been full of crap.

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And then I'm going to tell you at the end of this year the
stuff that I know we were put on.
And it's the final argument for me that when I saw it from my
end is just a guy on the street.And I'm mentioned in this
testimony, for whatever it's worth, y'all, my name is in this
document. The reason why I felt like it
was a setup from the beginning is because they did things that
were not logically consistent with a logical investigation.

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You can find somebody in 19 dayswho's throwing out pipe bombs in
Austin, TX in 2018 if you followlogical investigative steps and
there's no politics involved. But if other government agencies
are in play and you've been asked to hide it or you're being
obfuscated, you don't even need to have like agents go out there
and be part of the cover up. They just have to be told that
this was already done and that it was a dry hole.

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All they got to do is take people away from doing the
things that they would naturallydo because they're investigators
and they don't care what the truth looks like.
You just keep those people from doing that thing.
And I was one of those people who was taken away from doing
what you would assume would be the logical investigative steps.
So let's do that. Before we get there, let me just
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Let's do Tom Massey talking to Chris Ray.

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This is one of my favorite of groups of people.
Chris Ray, who was famously known for he's being familiar
with my name. I can assure you we've gone from
we've gone from the FBI directorwas familiar with the name of
Kyle Seraphin to the current FBIdirector M FS the name of Kyle
Seraphin. In the same way that our buddy

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Steve Baker went from being an unknown to being kind of PNG Ed
on the 7th floor. It's fine.
It's interesting. The the major change that we've
seen since the so-called Republican takeover and, and
we've now had our people in charge is that we are less
liked. We are even less liked in the
Bureau because we're still asking for the same questions to
be answered. And they wanted us to move on
and pretend like, oh, because our guys are in.

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In the same way that the folks wanted us to be really excited
about a government shutdown being the Democrats fault
instead of taking ownership and actually running away from it.
100 days ago is when this happened, and you said you had
total confidence we'd apprehend the subject.
We've found video that looks like somebody, a passerby,
miraculously found this pipe bomb at the DNC and then

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notified the police miraculously.
I say because it was it specifically the same, the
precise time to cause the maximum distraction from the
events going on at the Capitol. Can you show this video that we
have, please? I'd like to know if the director
has seen this. This is somebody with a with a

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mask on wearing a hat. They're walking in front of the
DNC, which is out of the view onthe right hand side.
You'll see him come into view. He goes to 1 police car.
He goes to another police car. He's holding a backpack.
He's got a mask on. He's talking to the police and
within a minute they start scrambling.
You'll see the camera turn to the pipe bomb, the location of

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the pipe bomb, by the way, that's I believe the Metro
police are now getting out of the car and that's Vice
President Elect's detail in the black Suvi believe parked about
30 feet from the pipe bomb, eating lunch.
OK, now we go over to the location of the pipe bomb the
camera. He's talking about the stuff 100
days after January 6th. That was in 2021 as I understand

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it, right? We knew an awful lot back then.
We learned even more as time went on.
This is also not new. This is Tom Massey talking to
Matt Gaetz discussing what they found out when they started
getting more access to this thing.
It is very clear to me that the FBI had access to all of this
footage from the beginning and chose for whatever reason to not

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pursue these leads and the only reason would be utter
incompetence or being complicit in a cover up.
Those are the only two logical explanations.
I don't I'm I'm more than happy to see a comment that says
otherwise, but I don't think it exists.
And the FBI is not utterly incompetent and they've proven

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it over and over again. When they want to find their
man, they find their man. At the very least we should have
a name. We should have a name.
We should have a profile. This person not 5-7 and own some
rare Nikes at 100 that 25,000 people have.
The FBI would be able to go out there and actually find every
one of those 25,000 people, or damn near all of them.
I bet you they could if they were so inclined.
And wouldn't you want your $11 billion a year agency that gets

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out in front of threats and tries to do it?
I'm going to read you stuff fromJennifer Moore, who was in
charge. She was the special agent in
charge of the intelligence division of the Washington Field
Office. And she was my boss on January
6th. And I'm going to read some stuff
from her as well. Here's Massey talking about some
of the other stuff. They've they've known this stuff
for years and it continues to behidden.
You recently met with Capitol Police.
Correct today. Today.

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And what did you learn in that meeting?
I learned that backpack guy, January 6th backpack guy not to
be confused with January 5th backpack person.
Backpack guy was a non uniform, you know, plain clothes police
officer, you know, in the employof the Capitol Hill police.

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The the person who found the pipe bomb, the person who
Deantuano, who is leading the investigation say, Oh yeah, the
person who found it, it'd be investigation one O one that
they would be a suspect initially until ruled out.
You're saying that person was anundercover plainclothed Capitol
Police officer? And the Capitol Police confirmed

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that to you today. They confirmed that to me today,
yes. Which So by the way, what does
that mean to you? It, it heightens some of my
concerns and, and reduces some of the other concerns.
OK. One of one of the concerns
that's heightened was, you know,trying to give the, the Secret
Service and Metro Police Department the benefit of the

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doubt when they took 4 minutes, you know, they finished their
lunch before they went and dealtwith this pipe bomb.
I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt and think
that, well, if it's just some random passerby and he said,
hey, there's something shiny over there, could be a lawn
sprinkler, you know, not sure, maybe want to check it out, but
that's not what it was. As you just heard from Steve

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Baker, there's footage of that that's never been released.
And the footage for the 17 hoursthat include from the moment
that it was dropped until the time that they supposedly
dismantled it all should also bereleased, at least pieces of it
so we can see what the hell happened there.
And it would answer all the questions.
This is the testimony that's from the whatever it was, the
House Judiciary. This is an oversight question.

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This is Massey and Steve Deantuano, who was the assistant
director in charge of the Washington Field Office at the
time. This is on page 33.
If you guys want to find the transcripts, I will post them
over on kyleseraphim.com. I will post them over on YouTube
in the comments as well. With all of our references for
today's show. Mr. Massey says I'd like to ask
you some questions about the pipe bombs.

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Deantuano says yes, Massey says that were allegedly planted on
January 5th and found on January6th.
Can you describe the nature of the pipe bombs?
Were they viable? There's some real strange
language that comes out of SteveDeantuano.
So quote, so my, the tip that wereceived from Quantico, from the
lab down at Quantico was that they were viable devices that

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they could explode and they could cause harm or death
depending on the explosion, right?
Why is he calling it a tip? Who gets tips from their own lab
division? This is very similar to when Pam
Bondi said my source is over at FBI when she was the attorney
general. Attorney generals don't have
sources in the FBI. They have employees.
He doesn't get tips from the labat Quantico.

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He gets reports, he gets investigative findings, Massey
says. Did they have explosives in
them? D'antuano says.
My understanding from Quantico was that they did.
They had black powder, I believe, but I'm not completely
sure on that. But we were told by a lab report
that they were viable devices that could explode.
And when I read that, it doesn'tsay anything about viability.

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We shared with you the entire story on those lab devices or on
that lab report. And what it says is that in the
right combination with the rightsort of ignitiation, potentially
these things could explode. But it doesn't indicate that
those things are there, that theright mixtures are there, and
that they actually did a quote UN quote flame test, which was
negative. To me, that means that they
applied flame to the black powder and it did not ignite,

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which makes it not viable. All of which goes much closer to
the line of the training device and so on.
Now, Steve Baker can't say it, but I can.
It's my firm belief that when wedid the show with Joe Hanneman,
because of the phone calls that I found out happened right
afterwards because of the interview that I did with Steve
Baker after the fact about the pipe bombs.

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The FBI and specifically Cash Patel and Dan Bongino scrapped
their plan to try to get ahead of the story and make it go away
because they don't have a win. They don't have the leaker of
the Dobbs decision. For whatever reason, Dan Bongino
thought that was a priority and he said it on Fox.
They don't have the person who was dropping cocaine in the
White House. And that's not a big deal to me.
And he said it's a really big deal to him because it's a

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hazardous device and or it's a hazardous substance and we
should care about that. They don't have that person
either. And they don't have the J6 pipe
bomb. They don't have the Epstein
files out. So those are 4 black eyes that
these men should never be able to live down after all of their
big, big talk. Because they had some real big
talk before they took those seats when they were wearing

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T-shirts like I'm wearing today instead of suits and ties and
representing the government, they had an awful lot of big
words and big, big brass balls to go in and clean up the mess.
And I don't know where those went, but apparently the brass
balls rolled right down the hillinto the Potomac.
I'd shut down the FBI Hoover Building.
On day one and reopening the next day as a Museum of the Deep

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State. And wrote in his book Government
Gangsters, that the FBI has become so thoroughly compromised
that it will remain a threat to the people unless drastic
measures are taken. And what were the drastic
measures that were taken? Did we take those?
Did anyone do it? Did it get done?
These guys seem to have all the answers before they got there.

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I can read in this story. Did the lab report say that
there was a detonator mechanism?I don't recall what they said
The detonator mechanism was. There was a kitchen timer on top
with clips and wires and all that stuff.
I'm not a bomb expert, so I don't know.
What did he just say there? That's Steve D'antwano saying
I'm not a bomb expert. Check this out.
So he says the kitchen timer, how long could it be set for?

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What was the duration? D'antwano says.
If I remember the picture of thekitchen timer, I think it was 60
minutes. It was rudimentary at best.
Yes, Mr. Massey says. Are you aware that former FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin, that he talked with the technicians
working in his office, said thatthey were not viable, that they

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could not have been, would not have exploded?
D'antuano answered. I've seen the report from Mr.
Seraphin. I won't, I'm not going to
discount Kyle's view, that his view from wherever he sits and
the people he's talked to. I don't know who he's talked to.
All I know is that we at the Washington Field office received
a report from the lab division, apparently not a tip or report,

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which are the bomb experts. I don't know what Kyle's
experience in bomb making is, but that these were viable
devices and that the only thing that I could go on is what my
lab says, not what Kyle says. For those of you that think that
the FBI keeps a dossier on everysingle agent.
And when you get transferred to a new division, they open it up
and they have your your militaryrecords and they have all of

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your training records. And like who you are and where
you've worked and everyone you've ever known and where you
went to school and what your GPAwas and whether you assume a cum
laude from the other. They don't have that stuff.
Stevie Antwana doesn't know shitabout what I did and I'm not a
bomb expert, but I've got 100 hours of on the job training and
explosives. And I've done military
detonations with commercial explosives, with military grade
explosives, with C4. We've done it with dynamite,

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commercial and military dynamite.
By the way, commercial is much more explosive than than
military. It's less volatile for the
military stuff because it's meant to go into difficult
environments. I've done electric and I've done
non electric. I've done improvised explosives.
I've made fleshet charges. I've done all kinds of different
stuff, Push charges, cutting charges.
I play with just debt cord, I play with just C4, we've thrown

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grenades, we've done all kinds of stuff like that.
I spent 100 hours in the demo range and in the classroom
learning about demolition, whichI can guarantee you is more than
Steve d'antwano knows about bombs.
So when I asked the question is it inert, and someone responded,
it looked very bomb like. I know what that would mean.
I've also been down at the demo range where these guys actually
work. I was asked on a regular basis
to go down and be a medic there because they needed medics to be

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able to supervise any of the shots and the cleanups and the
training in case somebody had a mistake while they were working
on things like pipe bombs. It turns out I've been to pipe
bomb trainings that the FBI did where they would go out there
and try to figure out what's thesafest way to cut this.
Should we use water? Should we use a pipe, you know,
some sort of cutting situation? Should we just demo it in place?
Do we have some, do we have someblanketing that might be able to

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keep the the charge downward into the ground so it doesn't
actually hurt anybody and we could stop all the
fragmentation? Can we do stuff like that?
Hey, Doc, that's me. Hey, Doc, you want to be the one
who does the clean up shot? Sure.
OK, OK, fine. Fire in the hole.
Fire in the hole. Fire in the hole.
Boom. Hit the button, send off the
final charge. Destroy all the demo that was
downrange. I've been down to the Charlie
demo range at Quantico. I used to work down there.

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Steve Deantuano. He was an accountant.
He's still an accountant. I don't know why he doesn't know
what was said to me even though I was working on the actual
case. And he mentions later on in this
testimony that he was the a Dick.
He's up here. I'm putting my hand above my
head and everybody else that's working the case is down here.
It's below my chin. For those of you who are not
listening. OK, I was on the ground.

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So let me be real clear about what was briefed to us on this
day. We got taken out into the field.
We were given a person of interest and we were given one
of the clearest and most accurate depictions of how they
came to that person that I had gotten in almost three years of
doing surveillance. Thousands of hours, hundreds of
days I spent doing watching bad guy with sometimes a little more

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than this is the person. Here's their drivers, their
their plate number. And we think the car is a, you
know, 4 door sedan. It looks like this, We don't
know what address they're staying in in this crappy
neighborhood. Go find them.
And we did when we were briefed up on the pipe bomb case.
It was really specific. They said we've tracked this
person through Washington, DC oncameras.

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This person left DC by going on the Metro.
The Metro has a time card. It has a card and a time stamp
on the cameras. This person, and I've never seen
the thing publicly, but I swear I've seen it.
Maybe I, I created it in my mind.
It's always a possibility. It's always possible that I
generated this picture in my mind.
But I can see from the way that we were briefed, A surveillance

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grab and maybe they had it out there in the early.
Maybe you guys remember where itcame from.
Maybe one of you enters net sluice will find it.
A person going through the turnstiles in Washington, DC and
heading out to Northern Virginiaand getting off at Falls Church
and getting into a vehicle wherethe plate was associated with
the same credit card that was used to be able to buy that

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Metro card. And that Metro card was
purchased a year prior and neverused.
These are really, really specific details that were given
to us. And so they don't all have to be
true, but most of them most likely were because the agent
who was briefing in the field was reading off a sheet that was
like, hey, what do you need to know?
We asked questions about the bomb because when I was running
a surveillance team, I wanted toknow how close do we get?

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What's our safe standoff distance?
Are we likely to deal with somebody who has an S vest?
So we have to have a different protocol.
We have to treat them differently.
And while we were doing this andwe were out there, and by the
way, I still know the address ofthis person who was not alleged
to have been the bomber, but alleged to basically be the
person who bought the Metro cardand owned the car that picked up
the person that supposedly planted these devices.

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That person was a prior Air Force member, but not a chief.
As many people have gone out there on the left and or on the
on the Internet have been going out there.
There's a guy named Tony Segura who completely fabricates
bullshit after talking to me. He takes my story and then he
adds fake pieces to it and says we tracked all the data that no,
he didn't. He's full of crap.
He should go out there with JohnCullen and the, the Crowdsource,
the retards and everything. These guys just make stuff up.

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The story that we got was that the credit card that bought the
Metro pass was the same address,was the same person that owned
the vehicle that the license plate are tied to, that the the
alleged pipe bomber jumped in the vehicle with.
So it could have been someone that knew them.
He could have lent out his car, but it was a man.

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He was former Air Force, was a current government contractor.
We sat outside of his house for about 3 or 4 days.
We briefed up at a fire station in Falls Church.
I know the address of all these things.
I still have the maps. And then the question became,
can we go talk to this guy and get some answers?
And the minute that we did that,we were pulled off that case.

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We were pulled off the one thingthat my squad did very
specifically, sit in cars, pee in bottles, talk on radios and
take pictures, video and follow people around.
That's what we did. And they took all my team, all
seven or eight of us that were out there in the specialized
role with thousands and thousands of hours, sometimes

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years and years of experience, specialized equipment,
specialized training. We all did this.
Was it super elite stuff? No, but it just means if you
haven't done something in a while, you're not good at it.
And FBI agents are pretty bad atdoing surveillance in general.
They're not good at it. But people who do surveillance
every day for a living, they getgood at it.
That's what happens. And our team was tasked to be on

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standby to go find the previous pipe bomber in Austin.
They were looking, hey, we mighthave to send you guys because
they wanted to be able to catch this person.
So people who are good at investigating in the field and
finding people in the field, that's what my team used to do.
And instead of us being out there sitting and watching this
door or knocking on the door andasking the guy, hey, what the
Hell's going on here? Like this is what we found out

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about you. Do you want to explain this?
Can you help us? We don't want anyone to get
hurt. Rather than do that and utilize
the background that I had as previous Air Force that the the
actual like and my ability to doa knock and talk.
You guys know I can talk. I can make a friend out of no
one. Rather than do that, they took
my entire team. They sent us back to our off
site where we sat in front of our computer terminals.

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And we did work that a teenager in high school could do, which
was evaluate leads that came in that were complete BS.
And the first thing that I said and the first time that I ever
sat down in front of a microphone on my own in October
of 2022, the famous sitting in my dad's study where Ryan Riley
made fun and he said I could seethe grandfather clock of your

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dad's stuff back there. I had COVID at the time and I
told you guys the same thing. I threw out as many January 6
leads as possible because the leads all indicated First
Amendment protected activities and nothing else.
They did not indicate criminality.
There was no allegation or information that a federal crime
had been committed and that somebody that was named in that
lead was involved in it. So I tossed them out.

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But what we should have been doing was watching this person
of interest. And he goes on to say, and this
is a guy who already doesn't know what he's talking about,
Steve D'antuano. He goes on to say in this
document that he was here at thetop as the a Dick, the number
one guy in the field office. Below that was the SA CS Below
that were the the the what they're called the a sax
assistant, special agents in charge.

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Below that are the supervisors. Below the supervisors are the
agents like me. So there he is 4 levels above
claiming he doesn't know. And let me just read you
something. This is from the person who was
one level below him. Her name was Jennifer Moore.
She would have been my boss on that day.
I'm going to read it too becauseit's relevant.
This is in congressional testimony Underoath quote.
At the FBI, our goal is to always disrupt and stay ahead of

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the threat. We are constantly trying to
learn and evaluate what could have been done better or
differently. This is particularly true when
we see something on the scale ofJanuary 6th.
I want to under score that, as you will see from my discussion
with Wfos preparations, we made considerable efforts to identify
and mitigate threats related to January 6th.
We did not treat it as business as usual.
As you are aware, all FBI investigative activities must

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have an authorized law enforcement, national security,
intelligence, or public safety purpose.
At the FBI, we may not engage ininvestigating executive activity
solely to monitor the exercise of constitutional rights such as
freedom of speech, religion, assembly, or the press.
The FBI routinely participates in planning related to large
scale events in the National Capital Region to include those

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events designated by the Department of Homeland Security
as National Special Security events, more commonly called
NSS. ES.
Are you guys seeing all this stuff?
We've been talking about it for years on this podcast, she goes
on, for which there are specificprotocols and roles to the
Department of Justice and its components.
Traditionally, the Metropolitan Police Department, the United

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States Capitol Police, and the US Park Police take the lead in
planning for demonstrations suchas those planned on January 6th,
since the security and protection of the city, the
Capitol, and relevant federal lands fall under the purview of
these respective agencies. The FBI is not a Police
Department. You can't let good cops be cops
because they're not cops, she goes on and says.

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Though the anticipated events ofJanuary 6th had not been
designated as a Homeland Security NSSE, the Washington
Field Office leveraged our past experience preparing for an
NSSE. As part of this process, we
analyzed intelligence to proactively prepare and alert
our partners at the federal, state, and local levels of
potential threats of violence and criminal activity.
In part because the NSESSE planning for the upcoming

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presidential inauguration was already underway, we were
already in frequent communication with our partners
about the threat picture in the National Capital Region.
The Washington Field Office is uniquely positioned within the
FBI by virtue of our size and depth of experience in these
types of activities that regularly occur in Washington,
DC For events of this scale, well in advance of on January
6th, the FBI prioritized collection, that's information

(01:23:31):
and intelligence collection, sharing and dissemination of
intelligence with our law enforcement partners.
Throughout 2020, the FBI issued approximately a dozen external
Intel products to our partners, specifically raising concerns
about domestic violent extremism, including concerns
about domestic violent extremismrelated to the election and
related to DV ES during ElectionDay itself and right on past,

(01:23:54):
right up to the certification and the inauguration.
They weren't caught off guard and yet they were caught off
guard. In the weeks leading up to
January 6th, Washington Field Office participated in numerous
frequent coordination meetings and partner calls with other
federal local law enforcement agencies, including Capitol
Police, Metro Police Department focus on the threat intelligence

(01:24:17):
sharing and planning relating tothe election and the
inauguration. These discussions focused on
agencies operating postures in light of the planned events on
January 6th, including the tactical assets that would be
available to support other agencies.
It goes on and on and on. There's nothing new there.

(01:24:39):
They knew what was coming and they didn't do their job.
The FBI tells us their job is toget out ahead of and to prevent
criminal activity and danger to everyone, and they cannot do it.
And in 19 days they were able tofind a pipe bomber in Austin, TX
with not nearly as much political pressure on them.
And in almost five years they'reunable to determine who the hell

(01:25:01):
is in charge and who the heck was doing the operation that
took place on January 5th and 6th.
And they're lying to you by putting out bullshit videos.
And they have not shared what they have because they never
expect anyone to collect $500,000.
If only someone who was in a position of authority knew that
there was a problem, that these people were politically

(01:25:23):
motivated, they covered up. I'm going to say it
definitively. This is my personal opinion
based on being there, being pulled off logical investigative
steps. It is my opinion that the FBI
covered up whatever happened on January 5th and 6th with the
pipe bomber, that they executed a full hit politically on Trump

(01:25:43):
supporters, some of whom belonged in jail for what they
did, even if they were incited. And many people who did not,
like my friend Steve Baker, who's still investigating this,
they went after the former president and now the current
president of the United States, and we're still funding this
nonsense. And they're getting paid when
other people in the federal government are not.

(01:26:03):
And somebody used to know it. The FBI is lost, but it's
broken. Irredeemably corrupt at this
point. The inexcusable raid on
President Trump's home was a straw that broke the camel's
back. I mean it when I say it.
It's way past time to clean thisFBI house up.
They have burned every last shred of faith and trust freedom

(01:26:25):
loving Americans had in it. And to the libs out there,
listen. Don't even waste your time
lecturing me on this issue. Not a second.
I get if you write off. I pay no attention to you
losers. OK?
No one's been a stauncher defender of FBI agents I work
with than me. Go back and listen to my shows
you dip wods. I was the one defending them all
the time. I've actually been a federal

(01:26:46):
agent, a cop who actually put mybutt on the line.
But what the FBI did to Donald Trump, that wasn't law
enforcement, it was tyranny. Tyranny.
I use the word very specifically.
And how do you let tyranny go on?
Because that guy is now a cheerleader for it.
And I'm going to make an argument that the reason they're
able to get tyranny through and the reason why people are still
buying whatever bullshit those guys are saying.

(01:27:07):
And they are identical to the people that were in the office
before. They immediately come in, they
pick up the pom poms, they put on the little skirt, and they
dance around making a little pompom cheerleading voices.
Yeah, yeah. Look at us.
We just did a big old operation.We took down these bad guys.
We can't deliver on the simple stuff that we said we were going
to deliver on. And the reason they do it is

(01:27:30):
because the average person who is voting in this country
doesn't understand what this country does, does not know who
these entities are. And they think because our guys
in charge, we must be winning because we voted our way out of
it. And they look like this lady.
They look like this goofball, and if your instinct is because

(01:27:50):
Donald Trump said it, it must betrue.
You're the problem. If your instinct is because
Donald Trump's guys said it, it must be true.
You haven't looked at his hiringpractice.
He sucks at hiring people at DOJand he sucks at hiring people at
FBI. Chris Wray was this guy.
Bill Barr was this guy. Cash Patel was this guy, and Dan

(01:28:12):
Bongino was this guy. They're counting on you sounding
like this dummy, this woman, when I see these things out
there and they get hundreds of thousands of views and 10s of
thousands of likes because everybody wants to believe so
bad. This is what we voted for.
We voted our way out of tyranny only to watch the same exact
tyranny be executed right back on you again.

(01:28:32):
This is what this is what we're fighting against people, and
it's basically an uphill battle forever that we probably will
never win because we're all outnumbered.
Wait a minute, is Trump actuallyshowing us that tariffs could
fund the government during a shutdown?
Because if that's what's happening, this man is playing
4D chess while the rest of DC isstill trying to find the board.
OK, let me just start right there.
That's not what's happening. She's dumb.
That's not what's happening, butlet's just hear the argument.

(01:28:54):
Wait a minute, is Trump actuallyshowing us that tariffs could
fund the government during a shutdown?
Because if that's what's happening, this man is playing
4D chess while the rest of DC isstill trying to find the board.
While Democrats were busy blaming Republicans, Trump was
making sure moms and kids didn'tgo hungry.
And he didn't raise taxes, didn't need Congress, did not
print more money. He used tariffs.
That's the same thing the media swore would tank the economy.

(01:29:14):
Meanwhile, it's literally keeping food on the table for
millions of families. So maybe the shutdown is proving
something bigger that America can fund itself and we stopped
letting bureaucrats waste our money and start putting America
first. Now that's what I call
leadership with results, not headlines.
Now if I'm a Latino lady and I want to get a bunch of views on
TikTok, then that's what I wouldreport.
I would record a bunch of nonsense that starts with the

(01:29:37):
word if and then a bunch of speculation that is like rah rah
team Dan Bongino could have beendoing that video too.
If this is true, then the following OK, well, it's not.
That's how, that's how logical statements work.
That's how if then statements work.
They're conditional. It's a conditional statement.
If the opening condition is true, then the then the
conclusion could be as well, butit's not.

(01:29:59):
That's not true. That's not what's happening.
And rather than be conservativeswho shut down government and
say, yeah, we just got the best thing we could ever got, you've
got people like Mike Lee, Based Mike Lee calling it the Schumer
shut down because they just can't help themselves with
stupid branding when they shouldbe saying this is a GOP

(01:30:20):
shutdown. We've been trying since Reagan
to reduce the size and limit thesize of government.
And the Democrats are doing us asolid.
And they don't want to vote for a continuing resolution that
pays for all the crap that they wanted.
They want more. We're going to take them at
their word, and we're not going to fund any of it for a while.
And let's just see what happens.That would be based.
That would be conservative. That would be the party of

(01:30:43):
Reagan. That's not what we have.
We've got these half wits out there doing this stuff.
And by the way, I've offended Mike Lee's staffer once because
he said something stupid. One of the staffers said
something stupid on X and I got a phone call from Washington, DC
saying, hey, you should be nice.Why?
What has Mike Lee ever done for anybody?
What has he ever done for the whistleblowers whose name are
all over the testimony and called out the truth five years

(01:31:03):
ago? The answer is nothing.
Just saying here he is all right.
For the 12th consecutive time, Democrats have just voted down a
resolution to keep the government funded, keep it
funded even at the same levels that Democrats a matter of
months ago found entirely acceptable.
For whatever reason, they want this thing shut down.
Big test now will be tomorrow tosee whether they vote for

(01:31:26):
Senator Johnson's bill, A great bill to shut down Fairness Act
to make sure that we pay those federal workers who are.
Currently required to work. I don't know how they vote
against that. They should vote against it.
We'll see. We will see.
That should happen today. That's what's supposed to go
down. We're supposed to find out
whether they're going to pay some of the workers who are
already working. If you're doing work, you should

(01:31:46):
get paid. That's pretty simple.
And then we should decide whether or not you should be
working. And a bunch of them should not
be. That's just how it's supposed to
go. If you're not essential, we
should be really, really specific about who is and who is
not. And most of these, these
functions of the federal government are not essential,
not even a little bit. And most of you will never know
if they shut it down. I'll tell you my argument today

(01:32:09):
is because of the lies that havebeen perpetrated by the previous
and the so-called current FBI which they claim are different
but they are clearly not. We should take these people at
their previous word before they were Co opted by this system.
This is an agency that has betrayed you.
And that oath you took into thisman or woman who stepped forward

(01:32:30):
and disclosed this horrific information about the FBI
targeting A legitimate conservative journalist, I
applaud you. It ain't nothing.
Yeah, that was Dan Bongino talking to me specifically when
I brought stuff about Project Veritas forward.
But it could just as easily be the story of Steve Baker in
January 6th. It could have been any number of
things. And here's the last reason why I

(01:32:51):
know it's not redeemable becausesomebody was told to look the
other way and knows for a fact it was a supervisor.
Maybe it might have been an A sack knows that they did not go
out and do the investigative work that they were supposed to
do on the January 6th case and they didn't bring it out
forward. They didn't make it public.
They didn't sacrifice their career in the same way.
This is an unacceptable breach of trust for the Bureau to come

(01:33:13):
out and lie about the single most terroristic activity that
took place on January 6th and resulted in almost 2000 people
going to prison. But it definitely resulted in
thousands of people's lives being destroyed.
They've lost jobs, they've lost opportunities.
They've lost freaking babies. They've lost all faith in the
federal government, despite the fact that many of them were

(01:33:34):
military veterans. Guys like Joe Biggs, who I was
texting with this morning beforeI went live, who lost all
ability to have any faith whatsoever in his federal
government because they took a Purple Heart veteran retired
man's pension, and they kept himaway from medical help and then
psychological treatment that he should be able to get after just
getting out of prison for years.And he'll not be right for a

(01:33:55):
long time, and he may never be right.
And I don't blame him. My family's not right because of
what they did. And they didn't even put me in
prison, although they tried. They definitely took those
steps. Shut this damn thing down.
You guys lied to us too many times.
You had an opportunity to come clean in March.
You had an opportunity again in April and May and June and July.

(01:34:16):
You could have couldn't clean atany point in time.
You can pick up the phone and Fox News will have you on.
They'll break all things that they had and they'll bring it
out there and say, hey, breakingexclusive FBI director is going
to tell us the truth. And they could have done it, but
they can't do it now. And they know they're boxing to
a corner because they waited toodamn long.
And now they're playing politicslike everybody else who's ever
had that job. So screw them, shut them down,

(01:34:40):
follow what they said when they were not in that, in that
organization. That's the right answer.
Should we laugh about something?I think we should.
Thanks for watching. For all of you that are
watching, find us on Spotify, Kyle seraphinshow.com.
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We have a call in show tonight. If you want to be a caller, you
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So check it out at kyleseraphin.com.
Of course, I'll always post all the links.

(01:35:01):
I'll give you guys access to these transcripts because you
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Let's do something funny. This is a funny little Hollywood
joke. Between the way Hollywood
represents George Washington andthe way that one of my favorite
comedians talks about him. Let's do.
Let's do. Yeah.
Let's do the George Washington of fiction and the George
Washington of reality and why Americans used to be scarier and
capable and they just brought itout there and won.

(01:35:45):
There was a time when we were feared.
Now we are ridiculed. My name is George Washington.
Get fucking donkey teeth lead inhis mouth for a decade.
You can't keep lead in your mouth for a decade.
That would give you for real like rabies like symptoms.
You got him like I can't believewe defeated the British.
I know how we did it. We had a fucking 6 foot 2 red

(01:36:08):
headed retarded guy out in the woods just waiting for those
motherfuckers. Dude 62-IN-1770 that's like 610
today. Red hair, horse teeth, a sword,
just. Do you want to tax?
Me, you know, terrifying. That guy was coming out of the

(01:36:29):
woods, some 5 foot British guy. Ron, it's George.
We should be scarier. The government should actually
serve us. It turns out that was the
original guy who said no Kings. In the meantime, we got people.
The lead story for ABC today wasthat they are tearing apart the

(01:36:51):
East wing of the White House like that somehow matters.
In any case, thanks for joining me for today's program.
I understand that was a bit of arant.
So be it. For those of you that are
watching over on Rumble, we'll feed you right into my buddy
Steve Friend who's still not back to work.
You want evidence? These guys can't do what they
said two months ago. They were supposed to bring back
Steve Friend and and others. Garrett finally got back in last

(01:37:12):
Friday for the first time under very dubious circumstances.
For whatever that's worth. They still can't get these guys
back paying. How hard is it to pay one
person? You'd think it wouldn't be that
tough. All right, that's it for today.
God bless you. Look forward to seeing you again
tomorrow. I don't know what's going to
happen. Maybe we'll have Steve Friend
on. Maybe we'll do a friendly
Friday. If not, you guys have a good
one. And I'll see you for the call in
show tonight. For those, it's 8:00 PM Eastern

(01:37:32):
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