FREE ADVICE: "GOP, Put Down the Shovel!" | Ep 677 - The Kyle Seraphin Show

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Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower and
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth because thisprogram has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin. Well, hello my friends.

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Welcome to today's Cal Seraphin Show for Friday, November the
14th. Thanks for being along for the
ride and thanks for being with us on this Federal Friday.
It's an interesting Federal Friday because this week has
been quite abbreviated. But for those of you who have
friends who work in the federal government, you'll recognize
that they are either texting youless or texting you more because
they're back to work. Most of us, it means they're

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texting us more because they don't actually have that much
work and they were actually doing things they like doing
because federal government jobs are kind of silly like that.
They actually don't involve thatmuch work.
It turns out you can get away with doing almost nothing.
And so Federal Friday is the waythat we used to talk about it.
Let me just put this phone in the Faraday bag, try to shut
down the watch, and let's get rolling today with a little bit

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of a program about holes. We're going to do some free PR
advice here. Look, I'm no expert on, I'm no
expert on public relations, but I know a couple things.
And I do know the first rule of holes, which we're going to talk
about. And I also know the first rule
of politics, which is that if you're explaining you're losing,
the longer your explanation, themore it looks like you're

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losing. And so we're seeing some people
do that. And I've got some instincts to
try to advise the Trump administration.
We want to do something that's beneficial to what they're
trying to accomplish. Look, at the end of the day, I
don't want them to lose. I just think they're going to.
So it'd be great if they actually just put down the damn
shovel and got after the thing that we hoped they would do,
which is fixing this country andmaybe keeping us from being
killed by our own tyrannical government, which is still doing

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its own thing and continues to do.
We're also going to have a little discussion about how they
don't know how to do that. And so they continue to go out
and tell us some things that arecompletely illogical, like we're
going to go debunk the theories,the analysis, the investigation
of an independent journalist as opposed to like saying, hey,

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thanks so much for your help. We'd like to look into that and
not be furious in the back end and try to do things that are
disadvantageous to the First Amendment.
I'm dancing around something I can't say right now.
I also got some updates about the meetings that happened in
the FB is Washington field office yesterday where they went
to go target whistleblowers and were unsuccessful because of
you. Because if you are audience, you
guys are our most powerful weapon system.

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So thanks so much for being partof that.
It really does make a differencewhen you guys share things and
you move things around. And our government is only
accountable apparently on socialmedia.
So that's how unserious a time we live in.
Let's talk about something that is not about any of those
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You guys know the deal. The list is in the little link
below you wherever you're watching, wherever you're
listening. And let's get into, well, let's
get into like kind of a chat with my dear friend Steve Friend
who's not back to work on this Federal Friday.

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And not that I I want to be likeMr. Music and Bumper and
whatnot, but we do have some sort of, we've got some, some
Steve Friend theme music. So here he is.
What are you doing, dude? You got hands.
I do have hands, but I like to keep the mystery going.
The. Legend of the handless hobbyist
podcaster. I do appreciate you introducing
me as your dear friend. I don't want any sort of

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confusion. I know you are a conservative
podcasting sensation to this point, but.
Really. No, It's, it's political
podcasting sensation. Thank you, Sir.
Being pedantic as always as you want to do, but I always see you
as my good buddy Kyle Serafin having me on his show so we can
talk about things that are open source.
Nothing classified, just. Nothing.
Hanging out and not representinga particular agency, Art, Art,

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Armed Department, Bureau of the federal government, United
States of America. And it is indeed a federal
Friday for so many people. So how many people who have
worked for 2 1/2 days are going to be heading out at 3:00 today?
How many of them are going to beheading out at noon?
Just saying. All right, Do you know what the
first rule of holes is? I do.

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I did see Incredibles 2. What is the first rule?
Hold on, let me put a graphic up.
There we go. What is the first rule of holes?
Put down the. Shovel.
Why? Why it's so fun to keep digging
it deeper? Well, I mean, the only way to
have fun is to then get a backhoe.
You got to make it much bigger and larger.
Hold on, hold on. You shouldn't have said that.
Feel like I can make this happenfor you bro Keep talking.

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Go ahead. You don't have to stop talking
but you have to. Just let me have a moment.
I mean, the obvious thing to do is not continue digging the
hole. And there's so many people make
the mistake of almost doing the Streisand Effect because they
feel compelled and they had thatpush on them, particularly in
the era of digital space, socialmedia.
They got to respond right away. You have to have a rapid

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response to it when really the best thing that so many people
do who are artful at it is just to be quiet and let it pass
because the news cycle is about four seconds.
Yeah, unless you're talking about the Epstein files.
It turns out those those cannot die.
I was reliably informed that he killed himself and we've moved
on. By people that we have to listen
to. It's them, just trust me bro.

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Three days away from 6 to 8 months.
Elapsing 3 days folks. Look at your calendar.
Yeah, I do think that we're in amoment where Americans and I
keep getting people calling it. Actually last night we had
someone call in and say, I've noticed the narrative move,
which was about the the pipe bomb story that Steve Baker put
out there. And the first thing that was
that was kind of propagated to see if it would grow, you know,
like they drop the seeds in and,and, and will it sprout and will

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people buy it was it was obviously a lone wolf and nobody
bought that and nobody cared. It was like, well, nobody thinks
that because everybody saw what January 6th was.
And it was a whole of governmentapproach, whether it be DOJ or
Capitol Police or, you know, thethe FBI going in and doing their
piece of it. There were other elements as
well. Secret Service, CIA had a bomb
sniffing dog out there and a bomb team.
So a lot of different people responded.

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So everyone just goes, yeah, no,we don't believe in the lone
wolf thing. Like that's not happening today.
Thank. You lone wolf, you would presume
that it would have an ideology associated with it and if there
wasn't a follow on attack or no more pipe bombs, that would
necessitate that. They had achieved the mission.
They had gotten the political change that they were
endeavoring to get. Violence and fear.

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I don't know what sort of political change we got.
Oh, that's right, we got a weaponized government.
So mission accomplished. We should hang a banner on top
of the battleship. It's a really interesting
thought. The mission was accomplished.
That was always the question, right?
Like why on earth did no one consider that this person
dropped a couple of pipe bombs? I actually said it.
I've gone back and reviewed something and it this was a
little bit painful for me. I went back in time.

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I used some AI tools to do analysis of Dan Bongino
appearances that I made, but also just Dan Bongino shows in
general since he's now the deputy director of the FBI.
And I think it's fair play to ask the guy who had a pretty big
talk about it and did so as recently as January 2, months
before he was in the FBI saying that January 6 was essentially

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an inside job, that they would try to blame it on a training
exercise that the they had this whole of government approach and
and all these sort of strange things that happened.
And you'll never believe it, butpeople like Julie Kelly and
Darren Beatty were all involved in this thing.
He had all these shows dedicatedto discussing this pipe bomb
scenario, including whistleblowers in federal

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agencies, whoever they were, whoobviously were not actually
acting as whistleblowers coming to him.
But folks talked about it allegedly to Dan Bongino.
And then we've had goose eggs for even the six to eight months
that we were required to give them because we're now outside
of that 6 to 8 month window. I think.
I think we are, are we not? Three more days.
The 17th will have reached 8 months.

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This is why Steve's friend is indispensable to us.
He keeps us on par. So we actually have three more
days, guys. I'm going to withdraw my
aggressive fire on that one. Then we're going to just hold
up. We're going to just watch it
out. We're going to Bongino rule it
till Monday because they only had eight months and they're
three days shy of eight months. OK, got it.
So all of that's kind of disconcerting.

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Should we start with the sort ofcrazy, the crazy story that just
came out? This morning, all about crazy.
On Fridays, let's do this. OK, let me see.
If I've let me see where it wentthough.
Do you know where it went? I don't know.
Where it went I don't have hands, so I I.
Definitely, yes. What it is, I just, I went right
past it 'cause I saw it and it was like, OK, this is pretty
wild folks. This is a Washington Post, a

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Wapo article that just was sent over to me.
They just dropped it this morning.
How the FB is massive search forthe DNC pipe bomber stalled.
That is truly interesting that the left wing media is now
realizing this now. I have it on multiple sources at
this point that the current FBI leadership, Patel, Pongino, the

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guys that are in the public affairs department, that's going
to be Williamson, Ben Williamsonand also a guy named Marshall
Yates who used to work for Tom Massie.
And apparently Massey is not speaking to him at this point.
So all that's quite interesting.They're absolutely furious about
what's going on right now. And I've heard this from
different angles, different people, even in different
agencies outside of the FBII think that's true, but why?

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Like, why would they be upset about it?
Maybe you can give me a plausible explanation.
You're my guy. Can you?
I used to make you be Kamala Harris and do your impression of
Kamala Harris. Can you give me an impression of
standing in FBI management and try to look outward and give me
maybe like a reason why this would be frustrating and and
like a logical reason we can getbehind?
I think if you go back to the times, it was before the six to

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eight months period started and there was so much buildup and
talking publicly about how this was going to be a day one
priority. This is a matter of public
interest. We're going to put a team on it.
And now we have this long lapse in time.
And if it ultimately comes down to it was an inside job and the
team has withheld it from you tothe point where a journalist
with no ability to have subpoenapower or search warrants or

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anything other than just good old fashioned shoe leather and
source cultivation and looking at some close gap, the circuit
television was able to break this.
It undermines your authority completely because that means
the team was withholding it fromyou.
It makes you look really bad. So then it goes back to do you
want to appear malevolent or incompetent?
And I guess they're going to go for the former.

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Why? How does that calculus work?
I I Honestly, I, I I just keep doing that.
I'm. I'm flabbergasted.
The responses continue to be completely illogical.
I saw somebody over on X the other day, which is one of the
funniest places to find some of you are the like the nastiest
comedians just kind of sitting on the sly doing really funny
stuff. And they said Kyle Seraphin is

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playing chess in the brain of Julie Kelly, a mind built for
checkers. But it's it's two-dimensional
moves. I actually had an attorney call
and say the same thing. Our whistleblower attorney
friend Suzdak, I think he said something.
The fact that these people can only move left and right and you
keep moving in three dimensions.And but it's actually really

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easy to not, it's really easy tonot screw this up.
You just got to put down the shovel.
Just say we really appreciate the lead.
We're going to investigate all things independent.
Journalists have a great place in American history and have a
history of breaking stories. You know, we'll consider all
potential, not like and no and no comment, and then start a new

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Twitter account, which, by the way, is going to be the subject
of hilarity in a minute. Well, how about the catastrophic
consequences if it's being explained to them by the the
Viper's Nest, that is the HooverBuilding?
That Sir, if you were in fact togo forward with this and say,
hey, Attaboy, helmet stick refused, Steve Baker, Joe
Hanneman, the Blaze for doing that great work, then that will
implicate hundreds if not thousands of people who work for

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this agency in the Department ofJustice.
Because of the narrative that connected the pipe bomb to the
capital riot, even though there was no evidentiary connection to
it. It was used on documents in
order to get not just sentencinganswers, but warrants in general
and characterize people as terrorists so that we could open
up terrorist cases and our people's names are on those.

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So now what? Do you have 6000 people with
Giglio material? It will bring down the entire
agency and then you won't have that sweet, sweet chat.
That's right. Can I read some of the story?
You haven't seen the story yet, have you?
Not? No, I haven't.
OK, great. So I haven't shared this with
Steve yet, so we'll get a cold reaction.
It's written by Aaron C Davis, and this is based on, it says

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here in a little note. This is based on reporting that
was conducted for his new book called Injustice, How Politics
and Fear Vanquished America's Justice Department.
And it's written by Aaron C Davis and a woman named Karen
Lyonic. And it was just published a
couple days ago. So they're doing their book
push. There's a famous picture of the
pipe bomber wearing the the mask, wearing the shoes, the

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Nike Air Max turf shoes, which were in a distinctive white,
black and yellow pattern. And then of course, the white
hoodie or the the light colored heavy.
In the weeks after the mob attacked the United States
Capitol on January 6th, the FBI dedicated more than 50 agents to
1 task finding the person who planted a pair of pipe bombs
near the Capitol. I don't know that 50 sounds like

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that many. Considering that my team
constituted probably 8 of them. Then they would say that.
And then you've got another eight that were on the
counterintelligence squad that was doing some.
So hard to say what all that's about.
Why is this? Oh, maybe that's why.
OK, sorry. Do we get weird echo when

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Steve's talking? Yeah.
You guys are telling me there's there's reverb.
I had a an extra screen that wasdouble miking.
Sorry about that. OK, so early on they questioned
a this is really good stuff. Steve, Are you ready?
Is gait analysis real? Are we talking gate like like
swinging off of a hinge? No, we're not Steve Bannon.
We don't. We're not Steve Bannon.

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We're talking about an actual gate.
Did you actually see that video that I did the other day?
Yes, I did. God, it's so silly.
They're so silly when they do this stuff.
No, a gate GAIT as defined by Julie Kelly.
Should I just play that clip? No, I'm not going to do that.
Early on, they questioned a Capitol Hill area gym employee
who had purchased the same Nike shoes as a perchant as a person

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captured in grainy security Cam footage.
Crisscross pressing the area of the night before the riot.
Then they suspected a man who'd been snapping photographs of
locations outside the RNC and the DNC.
They say a Republican and Democrat party headquarters
before the bombs were placed there.
And then later agents found an actual bomb maker.
It just turned out to be the wrong 1.

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So they cast the net wide and aggressively.
Nearly five years later, the identity of the DC pipe bomber
is one of the enduring mysteriesof that day.
It's such a mystery. And it triggered one of the
largest investigations in the Justice Department's 150 year
history. The 150 year history
investigation is J6IN general, not the pipe bomber, all right.

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It became the focus of conspiracy theories and claims
that the crime was an inside jobthat they often accompanied by
the assertions that it was not vigorously investigated.
Here's the book if you guys are interested in finding it.
This account is the investigative steps taken by the
Justice Department to show the nation's premier law enforcement
agency marshalled significant resources.
This is a cover for what the FBIdid because we always want to

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defend the agency when we are part of the mainstream media,
even if we don't like the leaders who are currently doing
it. All right.
The contours of the probe are first described in a report that
was released in January by the congressional committee.
We've read pieces of that. There is 75 or 80 pages of that.
It was released by Chairman Loudermilk's committee.
You guys can go and read that. So they have some details drawn

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from that and their own originalreporting, some of which was
interesting. So here we go.
This is a person with extensive knowledge of the investigation
that is not at liberty to talk about it and shouldn't be
talking about it to the media, but apparently is able to do so.
People were claiming that we were not pursuing evidence, but
they don't know what they're talking about with regards to
the pipe bomb investigation, said one of the people with
extensive knowledge. The thing was massive.

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We dedicated, we devoted a wholeton of resources to it.
That's the quote. What say you, Steve?
Does that sound right? You could dedicate a lot of
resources towards something and they could not make any progress
because you routed them into thewrong direction or giving them
leads to go down, which you knoware going to be not fruitful at
all. I mean, we have lots of people

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here. Why don't you just go back to
your desk and answer some leads and say that you're attached to
this J6 pipe bomb initiative because you're on paper assigned
to it? OK, quote, people were claiming
we weren't pursuing evidence, but they don't know what they're
talking about with regards to the pipe bomb investigation,
said one of the people with evidence.
We devoted a whole ton of resources to it, so here we go.

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Last week, several Republican lawmakers latched onto a claim
published in conservative news outlets The Blaze that a gate
analysis suggests the person captured on security videos on
the night of January 5th was a former Capitol Police officer.
The officer, Shanie Kirkoff, wason duty at the Capitol the
following day and testified in some of the first trials against
rioters. So real quickly, because people

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like to get excited about lawsuit ideas, this person is a
limited per limited purpose or alimited duty public figure in
the question of January 6th. That's the argument I would make
based on having done some fairlyextensive research on it these
days, because I have to know what a public figure is and what
a public figure is not based on some other things that are going
on in my life which don't need to be discussed at this exact

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moment. But we'll be in a moment.
You can be a a public figure forthe purposes of the thing that
you're doing. Steve, you were a police
officer. You were also an FBI agents on a
reservation. Did they ever write newspaper
articles about the stuff that you did on the rest?
And so people might cover who you are, and they might include

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a picture of you if somebody wasoutside while you were doing an
arrest. Yeah.
What other things might kind of pop up on a They could tell
where you were from, or they could guess things.
What people said about you on the rez maybe.
They could ask people that theiropinions were about me.
They can even go to unsealed criminal indictments where I
would list off my bona fides andprobably verify that.
Right. Because generally speaking, what
happens is, is when you're giving out any of these, if

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you're doing an indictment, you have to set testify who you are
and what your experience level is and where you've been and
what your jobs are and why you're qualified, right?
Correct. So limited purpose public
figures are people that for a specific thing that is being
discussed that they are fair game to be discussed and they
have all the same sort of like expectation of privacy and sort
of the broad range of people to discuss opinions on them in that

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particular scenario. So I just think that's true.
And I've seen a lot of folks saying that there's going to be
a defamation lawsuit against theBlaze, but I don't know how you
do that when she was in fact a Capitol Police officer on
January 6th. They have articles showing
pictures of her working on January 6th.
So a lot of this stuff means we're talking about January 6th.
And she was clearly a participant.
They just said she was on duty and she employed, you know, some

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less than lethal rounds. And she was a trainer and she
worked for the agency that responded.
All right. So Steve Bunnell, whoever that
is an attorney for Kirkoff, voluntarily identified his
client by name in a statement toThe Washington Post.
That only took, what, a week? Saying she's been pick up on
arguably the biggest story of 2025.
Well, way to go. Democracy dies in darkness.

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That's right, saying that she's been so widely and falsely
accused in recent days on socialmedia that she had to push back.
Quote, the shameful allegations are recklessly false, absurd and
defamatory. Defamatory is really, that's an
argument you make when you're trying to get your lawsuit out
there. But I don't know that they're
even close to that. Miss Kirkoff categorically
denies them. That would be fine, except she

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worked for the agency. And so I think that she's fair
game for that. She also fits some of the
categories and she fits some of the things that the FBI has said
in the the broad profile of who they're looking for.
And that's what's going to get really fun.
Ed Martin, an associate deputy attorney general in the Justice
Department, dismissed the claim on social media.
He said this is false. This is really funny.
This is a deceptive claim. So I've been watching Ed

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Martin's account. They said Ed Martin has
confirmed that this person, you know, is a subject in the pipe
bomber investigation. And what he wrote is this is
false. Neither Mr. Martin nor the DOJ
has made this determination. But that is not to say that
they've concluded the alternative.
They've just said that they haven't weighed in on this.
That's all that that says. And they kind of phrase it
deceptively in the Wapo. All right, So the FBI didn't

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respond to any questions about Karfhoff but said that fall,
solving the bomb case remains a high priority for the FBI and
our law enforcement partners, which is nonsense.
In the months after January 6th,the officials declined to assign
a single agent to investigate Donald Trump.
Got always get that in there or those around him.
That's why they had to have the special counsel, Jack Smith and
the ill-fated case against Donald Trump of which everybody

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apparently who was involved has now been fired.
That's kind of interesting. By contrast, Bureau leaders in
the Washington field office quickly poured resources into
the pipe bomb investigation. They did a great job, Steve.
They've never come up with anybody, but they did a great
job is what I'm hearing from this, this Wapo story.
They saw the would be bomber as the key to understanding how
extensively the day's political violence had been planned.

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I want you to listen for that lone wolf narrative.
Cause actually everything that Ihear about the description in
this article and the way that they ran this case per these
people tells me they were looking for this lone wolf,
which makes me think that lone wolf sort of a thing that popped
up at the beginning of the week was not organic.
All right. One of the first steps the
investigators took was to scour the blocks around the bomb site

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that they found in an hour before the riots.
One near a dumpster at the RNC and the other near a Bush and a
garage entrance to the Democratic National Committee
building. Have you seen the video footage
of the bomb being placed? Yes.
Have you seen the video footage of the Capitol Police officers
finding it before they found it?Yes.

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Ain't that something folks? There will be some video that
comes out soon that the investigative team that's
working at Blaze has put out. I'm just going to tease it out
there that I've seen it and it'snot mine to share because I
didn't uncover it, but it is publicly available if people
were able to see it. There are some cops that walk by
the Bush, look under the Bush twice before they officially

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find it. What do you make of that?
That's, I mean, that's one of those big questions.
What were they perceived and wasit incompetence where they say
no, you know, it's probably justsome litter down there, even
though that's really. It's probably that 8 inch
galvanized litter that we alwaysfind hanging around the Capitol

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when we're walking on our on ourbeat.
You could assume some level of laziness for a fact employ,
right? The second look, people will see
it. The second look is deliberate.
It's aggressive and it involves A waist bend.
I see a lot of litter and trash.Yeah, it's rare that I walk by
something unless it looks like it's a $20 bill that I'm going

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to turn around and do a double take on it.
Like I just don't. Especially in DC, which I have
found $20 on the ground before. It's probably counterfeit now
that I think about it. So be it.
All right, so the first step they did was they went and
scoured the area. The agents found nearly a half
dozen government security cameras and home surveillance
systems captured the suspicious individual meandering on the
routes for about an hour. The night before the riot
suspect paused on a park bench, cut through an alley, stopped

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again as a neighbor was walking as a passerby or a light colored
hoodie. All of us have seen this thing.
The supervisors pressed investigators not to draw
assumptions about the suspect's gender.
Even though the assumption wouldbe that if you're dropping a
bomb, it's kind of a crime of violence.
Generally male is that. That that's why profiling is
actually a good thing in a law enforcement context.

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It's just playing the statistical odds.
We didn't want to have tunnel vision and rule people out of
suspects, said another person involved in the discussions at
the time. We all figured it was a man, but
we never came to conclusions andwe never excluded women.
The investigators held open the possibility that the bomber had
accomplices or was part of a group that conspired to build or
place the devices, Which makes the most amount of sense.

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Was that evidenced by the use ofa cell phone during the entire
ordeal? Right.
Or the possibility that somebodyhad actually gone and done some
route mapping. There was a a plan and it seemed
like that plan was screwed up atsome point in time.
What's funny is, and I've speculated about this a little
bit too, you go out there and you Recon a route.
If you do it in the daylight where it's not alerting and then

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you send somebody to go drop something and then you find out,
oh, there's a freaking street light that's on, or there's a
spotlight from across the streetthat throws direct light on the
area that I'm about to go drop this in and it's going to be
discovered right away. Then maybe you have to change up
your plans. Maybe that involves a cell phone
call to your buddies who did theRecon when you tell them what's
the backup location, something like that, right.
All right, so while sitting on the park bench, the, the suspect

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at one point appeared to stare down at a phone.
So agents began harnessing cell phone data.
They talk about the tower dumps.They go on and say that they
identified a list of 120 different cell phones.
I'm going to put something on the screen here that's kind of
interesting. And I don't think people have
seen this. One of you all over on X kind of
tagged me and alerted this came out of the Loudermilk piece or

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the Loudermilk. What do you call that thing
summary that they released the other day, January.
And I've been kind of reading from it and kind of picking at
it and it's long and it's not really necessarily easy to read.
So, Steve, I'm going to throw some stuff on the screen here.
By early February 21, the FBI had identified 186.
This is coming from Congressional Report 186.
Phone numbers of interest derived from the FBI's analysis

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of blank geofence and several tower dumps, according to the
internal documents. So we had 186 phones. 36 of
these phone numbers were assigned to agents for
interviews. They went and interviewed 36
people. 98 required additional follow up steps, investigative
steps, and 51 were identified asnot needing further action
because they belonged to federallaw enforcement or persons who
are on the exclusion list. Well, we've now preliminary

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excluded individuals who, as it's borne out, were likely to
be involved. So you were maybe pursuing A
lawful investigation. You're throwing lots of
resources at it. But if the very beginning, if
you did something, I mean you cancelled out those cell phones,
that would be like saying you'renot allowed to look at women.

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Right. It's obviously not a woman, so
no women, all women were thrown out.
So this is something I want people to understand.
When you start doing an investigation, you start with a
series of assumptions, like the person is from this area, but
then you might find out something that says, well,
that's not something you can actually do.
If you excluded your search justto the local area, you might
have to expand it. You may have to expand it larger

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and the FBI apparently did that too.
But when you have certain logical assumptions like law
enforcement wasn't involved, they're on the exclusion list.
So kick them off. Let's only look at non law
enforcement. You've basically made the
assumption that law enforcement wasn't involved, and you may
have to go back and revisit that.
I think your inclination to do that originally, if it's benign
and innocent, it makes sense. Certainly a cop is not doing

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that. So we're not going to look at
cops, OK, But if five years has elapsed, then maybe you need to
stretch those parameters out a little bit more.
And then you start figuring out what are my underlying
assumptions that allowed me to go down these paths and which
one of them should we start throwing out and re evaluating
so you can re evaluate your investigation.
You regularly do this. When you say you go back to the
drawing board, which is what I heard Bongino say, they were

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going to go, do you reassess allof your original assumptions and
decide whether or not they're still legit?
And sometimes they may not be. So I just wanted to say that
they said 186 and then they removed 51 and the 51 were for
law enforcement and there were other reasons.
They did some follow-ups. Agents went and did some
interviews. Fine.
All right. So the agents narrowed it down

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to about 20 phones that belongedto people who had no obvious
reason to be in that area at thetime.
The person's, this person said some cases the agents went even
deeper into the customer's records, their phone history and
review their Internet search history came up empty again,
Maybe you start looking at your underlying assumptions.
The investigation soon centered on the parts that technicians
found while carefully disassembling one of the bombs.

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The bombs were quote UN quote operable.
It is stated. What is that?
What's our thing that we say about the bomb, Steve?
It's my favorite. Viability.
They said viability. The word is not in the the
document that that exercises. I was in air.
I've only I, I skipped ahead andI just was like lazy on there.
I hit flame test and I looked atit.
The flame test was done on part on bomb #1 and it was negative.

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It was done on bomb #2 and it was positive.
But what I couldn't tell was if the parts were actually intact
because they actually did some sort of deconstruction or
detonation of bomb #2 looks likethey hit it with a, a round or
something, or maybe they did a shotgun blast.
So the battery was obliterated and it was all jacked up.
And I don't know if it was properly attached, but again,
operable. Is it an interesting word?
And so they're a little bit lazywith the wording on this Wapo

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story. The devices were operable and
had been rigged with gunpowder. By the way, folks, you can go
read that study or the, the FBI lab report I put it on the last
couple days shows I may put it out there again.
And again today it'll be in the link, It'll be in the first
comments that I pin if you want to read the study.
And I've had some EOD texts telling me they wanted to read
it. So I've, I've made it available.
It's, it's public. It's it's not mine documents and

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people familiar with the case said that also Steve Deantuano,
who is the addict of the field office, testified that their
timers had not been set to detonate.
So they were operable, but they weren't set to detonate, even
though one of them was locked ina 20 minute position.
We were told this is. I think this is lazy when
they're covering this. Operable then means operating to
achieve what to. Blow up or like I don't.

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Know take up space long enough for us to do a put up job on
thousands of people. I think the word operable is the
same thing as viable. I don't know what those things
mean, but what I know is that a bomb either is able to go off or
it's not able to go off. And using words like operable
and viable are not things that make any sense.
Either it was an explosive device or it was inert.
And if it didn't have the possibility of going off as it

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was currently configured and if it was not set there, I mean,
here's the thing. You can put a block of C4 down
on the street and it is C4, but it's not going to go anywhere.
It's not going to do anything unless there's something to
initiate that charge. So unless somebody comes in
there and drives over it with like a bulldozer and puts enough
force and heat and pressure to initiate that explosive device
and do the chain reaction that causes causes high explosive,

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then it does nothing. And there were guys that I've
I've heard of that were like on the SF teams too long, Steve.
And they would cut off a sliver of C4 and they would light it on
fire to heat up their coffee in the morning.
They put their coffee right on top of it.
Eventually that blows up your coffee cup because you're
probably going to just like do it too long or hit it too hard
or someone's going to step on it.
But, you know, it's a stable product, so operable and viable,

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rigged with gunpowder. These things don't mean anything
to me. And it's unfortunate their
timers were not set to detonate is what they said.
But this is not where it gets really, really crazy.
They began to catalog the items that could be purchased.
They went to big box stores, National big docs changed like
Home Depot and Lowe's. The battery connector was
different. They had to find, the only ones
they could find were from a string of hobby shops.
Seemed like a critical clue. They subpoenaed retailers for

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credit card transactions. You know anybody who did this
smart would be buying it with cash and they would already have
this stuff online. The other thing that I like to
do, maybe I'm just a cheap ass, but when I'm trying to build
something and I don't want to necessarily either be found or I
don't want to go to the store because I just don't like going
to the store. I salvage parts from other
things like including my own stuff.
Like I can tear apart a kids broken toy and find all kinds of

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useful stuff in there to be ableto work on one of their other
broken toys that I'm going to make work.
And I've done that. I've harvested wires and
connectors and so on. So anyway.
This sounds like the sort of things that you would do if
you're preparing for a training exercise.
You would salvage things from a yard and then go out in disguise
the night before. Not like an hour before all the
people were there for the field training exercise, but the night
before in full disguise to prepare for the training

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exercise, we would send the person who's allegedly an expert
on less than lethal tools and devices out to plant weapons of
mass destruction. I don't think people do that.
I don't think they go out there in the middle of the night.
That's the funniest thing. We the, the argument.
And by the way, I've got like dozens of examples or a dozen
examples of of Bongino, now the current deputy director of the

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FBI claiming that this would be passed off as a training
exercise and did so under the assumption that that's what the
government would try to claim. And then I think he convinced
himself that that was a really good idea to do it.
The problem with the training exercises is what Steve just
said. You don't send somebody in the
middle of night to set up your training exercise.
It doesn't matter if people you know, know, you just set it up
before the training exercise goes off.
If they happen to recognize it, you tell them to treat it as

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real. That's, I mean training
exercises always have a degree of LARP to it.
We want to talk about LARP for asecond.
Just for fun, LARP ING which live action role-playing,
apparently actually. You know what, before you do,
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We'll go back to Steve now. Live action role play.

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Now we're being cautioned by thefederal government that if
somebody is engaged in, in violent extremism, they might
try to pawn off all their planning as LAR ping.
So if you are accused of doing LAR ping, then you're guilty.
If you're actually doing LAR ping, then you're guilty.
It's almost like they've got youup both ways.
And I found what. If you're an FBI director

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pretending to be like a tacticaldude who goes out to MI 5
wearing a hoodie and tells people that like you're a bad
ass and I'm going to bring my armed guards in.
That's unlimidly relatable to the masses.
The reason they do that, by the way, the way the way the reason
that Patel wanted to dress the way that he did when he went to
MI 5 is so that the workforce felt like they were connected to

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him all. Right.
Look, I think we can make an adequate parallel to the prior
director, Christopher Ray. I mean his relatability was in
his e-mail because he was an office guy, right.
So he would always sign off his Bureau wide emails, not as
Director Ray, but as Chris. Yeah, he was super relatable.

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I remember, I remember how relatable that was.
It was good. I'm going to, I'm going to bring
you to the craziest thing about this because this story, I'm,
I'm, I'm not meaning to bury thelead, but I kind of am because
I'm going through their long thing.
The thing that's most interesting in this Wall Street,
this Wapo article to Kyle and maybe to you, the audience is
not where we've gotten. They went after Home Depot.
They went after like whatever the equivalent of RadioShack is.

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Used to be able to build a bomb out of RadioShack no problem
they got credit card data they cast a wider net.
They began to get reams of credit card transactions look
how hard they work, Steve. They got reams of credit cards.
It's like all searchable stuff. It comes in digital.
They don't get reams of anything.
They. Have terabytes of data.
Yeah. Terabytes they didn't have to
get out of their desk to pain. All right.
Had anyone used the same card topurchase the exact steel pipe

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timer and battery connectors used in the bombs?
No. Maybe maybe they went to Bass
Pro or bought a Bible with the exact same one too.
Yeah, it's really goofy. The agents came up empty.
The investigators collected moreand more information.
Data and computer analysts joined the effort.
What's funny is, is that in the old days used to be able to find
people by looking for people andnot looking for all this nerdy
stuff, which, whatever this is atactic for sure.

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This should be going on in the background.
The agents should be doing agentstuff like sitting out and
watching human beings and tryingto do interviews and bang on
doors and so on. Another group of agents,
meanwhile, analyzed every bit ofvideo evidence for the suspect
as leads may have emerged hiddenin the images.
Can I ask you a question? Did you ever get any training on
doing video analysis of a surveillance cameras?
Curious. I'm not.

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It's not a gotcha to the FBI, but I never got any either.
No, no, I, I mean, it was just alogical thing that I would do.
If a crime happened in an area where there was cameras, I would
ask to get access to it, but there was no sort of training
about how to pair it up with a person.
I'll be like, oh, it just looks like him.
So it's probably him. I never got any time and and
it's not an innate thing. I had a guy a comment the other

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day in one of our, one of our videos and said, I did, you
know, surveillance at A, at a casino for 20 something years,
23 years maybe, and watching someone go from 1 camera to
another is really, really difficult.
And I just want to kind of pointit out to the audience here.
If you're doing from camera to camera, here's the problem.
You're used to a certain size, aspect ratio and angle that
you're viewing somebody. You're also used to a certain

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white balance, which is like theamount of white and dark and you
know, color or not color. And then you go to another
camera, which is at a different height, most likely, it's
probably at a different angle. So they're coming in at maybe
not. It's not like Atari where it
goes like off the screen and it comes right back on the same
side on the other screen. You're watching something where
person pops in and they may havestarted like coming in this way,

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you know, coming up from the thebottom right.
And the next time you see them, they're walking downward and
they're walking directly, you know, at you.
And it's just very illogical to get your brain to try to grab
what am I looking at? Where am I looking at it from?
And losing people on surveillance cameras is a it's
very easy for someone who doesn't do it all the time.
That's the trope of every like Ocean's 11 sort of movie where
they they wait, you got to wait 5 seconds in the blind spot

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right here, then you can move onand you can move without being
caught and detected. Yeah, if it's a mobile camera
that's just panning, yeah, that's actually even crazier
because now you're looking at just wild stuff.
And if you can't pan what they call PTZ, pan, tilt, zoom, then
you're at a bad spot. And they have those in casinos,
too, where they can move them around, see table to table, hand
to hand, you know who's doing what, what, what's going on
under the table with the feet. Sure.

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But when we're talking about something that is an unmanned
thing and you're catching it after the fact and you're going
to go try to put something together in a really, really
illogical thing, you're not going to Orient the, the, the
screen. So you have to mentally reorient
every time you see. And I've seen some of the
footage that Baker has put together and it'll be this gal
walking that, you know, and thenthey'll have some footage of her
like walking overtly that they were following.

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And like on one, she's walking left to right and it's awesome.
And you can find a left to rightvideo to compare it to.
And the next time she's locked walking from the bottom, walking
away from you from a really highangle.
And so you don't even know who the hell it is, but they know
because they tracked her there and they've done hundreds and
hundreds of hours of this stuff,which makes you better at it.
I'm just going to tell you, I don't think any FBI agent has
spent hundreds, if not thousandsof hours doing this.

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And the analysts they had doing this has literally thousands of
hours doing so. So it's just, it's a grain of
salt that it doesn't mean that you suck at your job.
It just means that FBI agents are generalists.
Is that a fair statement you think?
You're a Jack of all trades and master of none.
And it goes back to even the semantics that's used within the
Sentinel system. They call you the case manager,

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not the case agent. You're managing resources.
You're using the the surveillance guys to go do the
surveillance. So you're not going to do that
yourself. You're using the evidence team
go collect the evidence. You're not going to do that
yourself. And when it comes down to
arrest, you're going to send theSWAT team.
You're not going to do the arrest yourself.
So you are kind of on the back end kind of just moving all the
parts and the resources, marshalling your own resource.
Anyway, the FBI saw all these things.

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They tried to analyze. They did the video analysis.
We're sitting right here on the screen.
You guys are following along with me.
This will be this will be put inthere.
I'll put an archive link so you guys don't have to buy access to
Wapo to be able to read it if you guys want to do that.
So that'll be in a pinned comment.
Agents are focused on the subjects closing.
They could tell that there was asweatpants.
It had very little markings. The investigators found unique

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Nike sneakers. They were a Nike Air Max Speed
turf shoe in a black, white and yellow pattern.
They were less than about less than 25,000, about 23,000 total
pairs sold before January 6th of2021.
They've been distributed to morethan two dozen retail things.
That has nothing to do with whether.
They are holding it on that for a second.
That is peak FBI. We marshalled all these

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resources. We do such incredible work.
They were able to identify a particular shoe.
I mean that that's something they're hanging their hat on.
I would bet you that somebody was either promoted or got an on
the spot award for figuring out the shoe the shoe ID, even
though it didn't lead to a successful prosecution or even
an apprehension of a subject. Now, as a completely not

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incriminating, but an interesting sort of
circumstantial piece here, what you're seeing is the leg of the
Capitol Police officer that was identified by Steve Baker.
Her face is hidden behind me, but not on purpose.
That is the Crest and the uniform of the team that she
played professional soccer for. She's not wearing those shoes in
this picture. She's wearing, you know, soccer
shoes on. She's she's a goalie.

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But you'll notice that the colors are yellow and black.
And occasionally, I would say it's reasonable to assume that
people who play professional sports get a whole boatload of
merchandise that is actually backed by the color scheme of
the place they work. My dad was he used to work for
the Hunt Sports Group. People may know this.
He also worked for the Texas Rangers and for the the Royals
and stuff. And they would sign people and
then get like a dozen Nike pairsof shoes just sent over for the

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new person that popped in because they were part of the
team. And you have, you know, a a
contract with them and they wantto get you on board right away.
And it's like, we want to see you wearing our shoes.
We want you in them. We and here's the official team
shoe. And here's some additional off
duty shoes. And here's some sweatpants and
shirts and headbands and, you know, all the kind of cool swag
that you get. And being a professional
athlete, that's what it means. And even if you're a

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professional athlete for a team that nobody knows and you've
never heard of the Columbus Eagles football club, but
they're out there. They also have the same color
scheme as the Columbus Crew, which my dad worked for Hunt
Sports Group that owned ColumbusCrew.
So they're black and yellow as well.
So these are the colors of Columbus for some reason.
It's black and it's yellow as far as I can tell for those two
sports teams in soccer. So anyway, interesting.
That's the shoe. That's something that people

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have kind of honed in on that are kind of doing the Internet
game. It's not conclusive of anything,
but it's it's an interesting little, that's another little
dot on the wall. Here's where it gets real fun.
Let's keep going back into the story here 'cause I'm just, I'm
not belaboring this on purpose, but this is worth every bit of
it. The process of running through
the sneaker sales LED them to a gym employee.

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The person lived within the zonewhere the FBI had pulled cell
phones operating the night before the attack.
The person came under further scrutiny when he initially lied
to the agents about a What does that say on the screen there?
Steve, can you read it? A leg injury.
According to people familiar with the investigation, So the
agents then wondered if the injury could have accounted for
the What is this here, this thing here, I see this phrase.

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It's something about a gait analysis.
The odd gait scene on security footage.
The FBI honed in on gait analysis of the of the of the
footage that they were watching.There was something unusual.
So I'll just put this real clearly in black for you.
Initially lied about the leg injury to the agents.
The agents wondered if the injury could have accounted for

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the odd gait. That's not like a gate that
swings open with a hinge and made out of what this is.
This is the Julie Kelly gate, not the Steve Bannon gate,
right? Gate like a horse.
Gate like a horse seen on security camera footage, which
means they identified that this person may have an injury and
may actually have an odd walk. Just saying.
It's quite interesting. It also led to them finding

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somebody who was a bomb maker down in Georgia, someone named
Dylan Chapman. He was actually charged with
possession of explosives as wellas drugs and some other stuff
that was going on. And they said we felt like we
stopped something really bad from happening.
He was blown up, pipe bombs out in the woods in Georgia,
unknown. So there's more on that and it
goes on and you guys can read the article yourself for the
rest of it. But I was curious that deep in

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the process here, you find out that the FBI actually had
identified that there was in fact a peculiar gate of the
person. And then you find out that the
person that Baker had found was not only living next door to the
person that I had been watching a week later, but add a peculiar
gate due to an injury in sports may have an affiliation with
these colors and actually did have access to the area because

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this person was a Capitol Policeofficer.
And for the purpose of this discussion, I think is totally
reasonable to discuss because weknow she was at the Capitol the
day after. So how do you not have that
discussion about it? And how does the FBI say, well,
we cleared all law enforcement and we exempted their phones.
I want to know if they went backand analyzed that.
And that would be a real easy press relief for the FBI rapid

(44:23):
Response team to do, don't you think?
If you preemptively eliminated every single police officer in
the area just because they have a gun in a badge and they're a
friendly, that has proven to be erroneous because you've not
been able to find anybody. So acknowledge that and say we
went back and look at this individual because of their

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unique gait, their height, theiraccess, their familiarity with
the entire area. Because that's a labyrinth,
right? If you drop you or me in that
area, I mean, you worked in thatspot, but I would imagine that
you would struggle to move around so efficiently as this
person did because you just haven't been there for a long
time and probably weren't that familiar with it all.

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This is somebody who knows that area.
I think it comports quite nicelywith somebody who might have a
professional responsibilities inthat spot, and that would
include law enforcement. So The funny thing is, is that
Baker's told me from all the watching they have, there are
moments when it's pretty clear that this person knows where
camera footage is and isn't and where there are blind spots,
Ocean's 11 style, as you sort ofmentioned previously.

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And that's kind of interesting, isn't it?
I think that again, this is another tally in the column that
says we might have made an errorin the original assumptions that
we made. And that happens, you make a
totally happens, make an error in your original assumptions.
The problem is it just compounded by saying no, we made
that assumption, ergo we cannot course correct at all.

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Nothing is set in stone in investigation.
I mean, that's something that I would always tell people who I
was interrogating the bad guy. I knew they did it and I would
say to them, hey, look, and nothing set in stone here.
If you want to go back and amend, I'm happy to do that
here. I'm going to note that you made
a change, but at the same time, if you're now giving me new and
accurate information, I'm compelled because of my job to

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do that, because this is not being chiseled out of rock.
Right. It's it's we regularly get
people who re remember, went to sleep and came back with some
more information, had somebody jog their memory because of an
instance that happened, found ane-mail that they didn't realize.
And it gives them context on something.
There's a lot of things that cantrigger your memory, especially

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when you start putting people that know things about it and
you start asking questions. They start going like, oh, there
are actual forensic tactics thatpeople use to help remember
forgotten events and you probably have gotten training on
those. I know they use them for sexual
assault victims on how to kind of walk people through and and
help them come up with information that they previously
could not recall. The danger is, is that you're
planting ideas in their heads. You got to kind of watch that.

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Yeah, we do the whole close youreyes and what did the room smell
like or sound like that? That can be a little bit
dubious, but the same time there's also sort of this common
knowledge that somebody who's a victim of a crime or been
involved in a traumatic event, they will have blackouts in
their memory in the immediate aftermath.
If you wait 2448 hours then all of a sudden they'll say I can't
believe I didn't remember that when I was talking to you right

(47:11):
after it happened 5 minutes ago and I completely blanked and and
now after a couple nights sleep I remember in vivid detail
things happening that actually did happen.
Sure. And in which case you just amend
your record. This it's not a strike on the
person that's asking the questions.
It's not even a strike on the person that is remembering the
thing, we're just getting after it.
What is really interesting is watching the response.
So we started off by talking about the first rule of holes,

(47:32):
which is. Quit digging.
Put down the shovel. It seems reasonable you should
stop digging when you have the holes.
There's a person that we know isthe essentially the previous to
the FBI rapid response Twitter account.
Their previous rapid response person was someone named Julie
Kelly and she is a former food Blogger AKA Monsanto

(47:53):
propagandist. If I'm going to be honest about
it, go back and read her stuff, she essentially picked fights
with people online about GMOs and organic foods so that she
could. It seems like speculating here,
but it seems like she's defending the products of her
husband's big AG clients. So that's what she does.
Her MO was just shit talking people online.
She's like basically a glorifiedshit poster.

(48:15):
And that's an actual technical term.
I'm not even trying to be profane people, but that's what
it is. And so here she is.
She has me blocked. I just wanted to show you guys
this because apparently I have decided to set up my tent inside
of her brain and you'll find that she is listening to my
Twitter Spaces. She's probably actually just
paying her researcher. She's also promoting Julie
Kelly. I'm sorry, not Julie Kelly.

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Megyn Kelly, who is not her sister and is much prettier.
It doesn't look like a man, but she's listening to my Twitter
Spaces. She's drawing conclusions from a
four hour conversation where people were asking me direct
questions and I was giving them as much information as I know
because I don't mind. Then she says this is fatal to
Seraphim's own false pipe bomb account.
She's making ridiculous conclusions.

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She doesn't even know what I said, nor does she know what
went on. Then she's saying that she
interviewed person of interest, three, who I've known about for
five years, which is crazy. She got a phone.
She somehow dug this person up and that person was willing to
talk to her. I I think it goes something
like, I got your phone number from the FBI director.
Can I have a conversation with you?
And the guy's like, oh crap, yes.

(49:19):
She says, I've never held a security clearance, but I'm
about to declassify something live, which is the name of her,
her sub stack. Anyway.
So she goes on and talks about who this person is, all things
that I'm pretty much aware of and I was aware of because I
talked to Luke Rosiak, who talked to this person days
earlier. But of course she wants to give
herself credit. So she has that little bit.
She's retweeting the FB is rapidresponse.
You know, like a regular person.Just can't wait to just chill

(49:42):
for the government. This lady who used to tell us
she was on the J Sixers side. Believing the government is.
Based. It's super based right now.
OK, there you go. Now she's got some other stuff
that's not related to me. Oh, there's more of it, Kyle.
Seraphin's changing the story bythe hour thanks to new
disclosures. She's never heard what my things
were. She doesn't know what I told
Daily Wire years ago. She didn't understand that
either. Luke and I had a nice
conversation. At no point did he go, oh, you

(50:03):
don't know what you're talking about.
Or you said something differently last time 'cause I
haven't, but now I'm disclosing that I knew who PY 3 was and I
was tracking him for years. Yeah, no shit, lady, of course I
was. I was really curious.
He has a very conservative looking Twitter page.
He's on Twitter for whatever it's worth, and I've known of it
for several years now and I've never thought that he was, that
he was guilty, which is what I said.

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So those of you who've been in the audience know what I'm
talking about here. Anyway, she's got cat turd and
she's attacking the blaze. Now she's talking about Blaze
editing. She's tweeting some lady from
Rolling Stone. This lady's a Rolling Stone.
Anyway, she's tweeting the, the PR, the PR person, the, the
FBI's, what's that? The public affairs assistant
director. I mean, this is a government
shill account at this point. That's basically where we're at

(50:46):
right now. Here's another one talking about
Bongino is debunking the blaze. This is hyping Bongino via cat
turd. This is a really sad look.
Everything about it. She's quoting Dan Bongino here.
I'm just, I shouldn't keep showing because she's got me
blocked. But Dan Bongino's a scream cry
that he did yesterday, like mad at Tom Massey.

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And it just keeps going on. And there's more of me in here
as well, but it's all there. It is.
Seraphin disclosed that he was part of the team.
She has no idea what's going on.Seraphin.
Seraphin, Seraphin, Seraphin. I'm like 85% of what she's
doing. Are people paying for this?
Because that's sad. More Seraphin Blaze allegations,
so on and so forth. Hold on Seraphin Seraphin's

(51:32):
claims, she goes out and tries to debunk a whistleblower,
having not seen what the disclosure is, claiming that if
it was a real whistleblower, they would have gone on to a
committee chairman not knowing that this redacted piece right
here is committee Chairman BarryLoudermilk because she hasn't
seen the disclosure. But I have calls him a so-called
whistleblower like the Democratshe is.
Anyway, I'm not trying to be a jerk about this, but it's really
obvious that this is the same thing as this.

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They they weren't getting success with Julie Kelly.
Her comments are full of people going like, why are you trying
to debunk this and trying to instead of trying to figure out
what's going on here, like what it what, what are you adding to
this discussion? And the answer is nothing.
So then we go over to the FBI rapid response, which I think is
run by Dan Bongino based on the way that it's responding.
Calling people idiots is really funny from an official
government account. And as you said, they've started

(52:14):
charging these this one's the best.
There's a woman named BX who is lives in lives in Georgetown not
far from me. And she's a former online only
fans like thirst trap, whatever.And she said, can you please
debunk statements made by your former agents that 764 pedophile
network is isn't a serious concern to the FBI because I

(52:35):
think it is. And they said hello BX.
Yes, it is. It's super serious.
We totally go after a bunch of underage people that know AUSA
is going to go and indict. The stupid thing about this is,
is that they charge these peoplewhen they age out.
But the reason why it's not quote UN quote a serious thing
and why it's such a fragment of the, of the, the sexual
pedophile, you know, type networks, which is not a real
thing. There is no network.
If there was a network, you would go in an infiltrate, you'd

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get them all. You can't do that.
These are just people that happen to be on the same forums.
And by the way, she probably haschild porn on her TV on her
computer. If she's doing research.
How many researchers did you find in your your child
pornography career running down those people?
100% of them were conducting research.
The FBI is quoting and then alsodirectly tagging a chick who's

(53:18):
doing research on pedophilia. I had a funny thought about
pedophilia because this is the other piece.
Megyn Kelly is getting roasted by people on the left.
Because again, and this is aboutas far as I'm going to go, but
basically there was a Josh Gerstein who works I think at
MSNBC and ABC, I can't remember exactly.
But anyway, he said that this isthe Kyle Serafin rebuttal

(53:39):
channel that the FBI has created.
This is not Kyle saying this very, very funny stuff.
In fact, if I go to my profile here, I think I can actually
find his quote, which is it kills me.
It actually cracks me up that that's in fact where we're at.
The FBI has decided they're going to create a social media,
a new social media account, because not being able to win
social media, their goal is going to go and do new social

(54:00):
media. I mean, that's back to the
conversation we've had before about being in crisis.
When you're in some sort of a crisis, you got to lean on what
your strengths are or your strengths you believe are in
doing social media influence andbeing in the public space.
Then you would lean on that skill set, which I think
comports quite nicely to what wesaw here where they sat around

(54:20):
the conference room table, the $70,000 Andy McCabe table on 7th
floor of the Hoover building in a crisis management meeting.
And the take away after that meeting was we should stand up a
new Twitter account to counteract everything that Kyle
Serafin is saying while wearing a non restrictive waistband in
suburban Austin, TX. Full disclosure, I have no socks
on, no shoes on, I'm wearing comfortable shorts with a non

(54:42):
restrictive waistband and no belt.
I've got my gun on the wall behind me, so I'm not even armed
on my purse. And I'm wearing a very soft,
sort of like, black T-shirt. Yeah.
I love it. Because the comments on on Josh
was that, that please correct yourself.
It's political podcasting sensation Kyle Serafin, Sir.
But yeah, here he is. And and this guy, if you're not
familiar with who he is, it's like he's a single.

(55:03):
He's the senior legal affairs reporter at Politico who's
identified Eddie Pryor worked asa White House correspondent and
a China correspondent. He was at CNN, the New York Sun,
a couple other places like Josh,Josh has been he's 55 years old.
He's a reporter. You don't we won't agree on a
bunch. I bet he's identified that Kyle
Seraphin bad press on Twitter isenough to get the the FBI to act

(55:25):
in the way that they're doing and call anybody who doesn't
agree with them a moron, which sounds or or or an idiot which
sounds. Very.
Dan Bongino liked me. Truly strange times, whatever
branch of the multiverse that wewere in.
Where my good friend who's now become a conservative political
podcasting. Sensation, yes.
Is impacting what the federal law enforcement, the preeminent

(55:45):
premier law enforcement agency for the United States of
America, is doing is truly bizarre.
That's it. And anyone saying that 764 is
not a top priority, the FBI is frankly an idiot who says stuff
like. That the dudes who are 15 years
old and are being jerks and you just waited a couple of years so
that you can age him up to adultand then charge him.

(56:06):
That's right. Meanwhile, nothing on the
Epstein story except a little bit of kind of a flingy cover
up, which is kind of fun. And so this is the other rule of
polls. If they could just keep their
foot out of their mouth and not do it, they cannot.
And Megyn Kelly, who do we know who she's friends with?
Is she friendly with anybody? That would be she like pro
Donald Trump and. She's really, really friendly to

(56:27):
the Trump administration. Slash anybody who's ever worked
on Fox News before. And so there's lots of people
within the Trump administration that worked on Fox.
News. I'm going to say that she's
pretty good at covering up a Bongino and Cash Patel thing.
She's been nothing but positive.They reached out to try to do a
hit piece on me at one point, asked me for comment when they
did, when the FBI director's girlfriend dropped the lawsuit.
And so here she is, and she's going to make an unusual turn

(56:48):
for a person who has a 14 year old daughter.
I understand she has a 14 year old daughter.
She's talking to Barry Weiss here, and she makes the argument
that I've heard. I feel like Alan Dershowitz had
made this argument. This found sounds like
paraphrasing Alan Dershowitz, and it sounded gross when he
said it as a like a gross old man.
Now you've got a mom saying it, so that's cool.
As for Epstein, I've said this before, which is a reminder.

(57:11):
I do know somebody very, very close to this case who is in a
position to know virtually everything, not everything, but
virtually everything. And this person has told me from
the start, years and years ago, that Jeffrey Epstein in this
person's view was not a pedophile.
This is this person's view who was there for a lot of this, but
that he was into the barely legal type.

(57:32):
Like he liked 15 year old girls.And I I realize this is
disgusting. I'm definitely not trying to
make an excuse for this. I'm just giving you facts that
he wasn't into like 8 year olds but he liked the very young teen
types that could pass for even younger than they were but would
look legal to a passerby. And that is what I believed and

(57:57):
that was what I reliably was told for many years.
And it wasn't until we heard from Pam Bondi that they had 10s
of thousands of videos of alleged, forgive me, they used
to call it kiddie porn. Now they call it child sexual
abuse material on his computer that for the first time I
thought Oh no he was an actual pedophile.

(58:17):
I mean, only a pedophile gets off on young children abuse
videos. She's never clarified it.
I don't know whether it's true. I have to be honest, I don't
really trust Pam Bondi. Word on the Epstein matter.
But she does trust Dershowitz. Yeah, doing the lawyer thing and
this. To be to be totally fair, that

(58:39):
is technically correct, and yet no.
Pedophile my wife gave us ass she.
Showed me the term. She was like the.
DSM 5A pedophile is attracted topre pubescent, but it's an
attraction. They don't necessarily act on
it. And the pederas is somebody
who's attracted to a pre pubescent, somebody who's a
little bit older, who's still I guess.
According to Megyn Kelly, the lawyer who's supposed to know

(59:00):
the law, 15 is legal. You want a 65 year old rolling
on top of your 14, 18 year old daughter?
Because actually, it's not pedophilia, it's pederasty.
Yeah, we had. We had a discussion in our house
about that this morning and I said, yeah, you know, all these
things may be true, and yet theyall go feet first into the
woodship. They.
All get millstones. They all get millstones.

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Just this is the reason why I'm actually had you know, this it's
not really related, but I need to share as an update on a
friendly Friday. You know, last week we talked
about the the tomahawk situationyes.
So this week we had some nasty weather roll on in, you know.
This is our feeling right now. For anybody who wonders what the
mood is, this is the mood after watching Megyn Kelly.

(59:42):
So we had the nasty weather rolling in.
You hear that bump in the night,you know, and I'm awake and I am
just gonna go do my regular rounds of clearing with pistol.
At that point I came back up andthen laid back down and my wife
said what was that about it? So I'll just do a perimeter
check and then we both hear a bump in the night and that's
when I had to elevate to rifle and went down and did the exact

(01:00:06):
same thing clearing. And came back up and now she's
no longer angry about the tomahawk situation.
I think I might have her on board for I need to have some
NVGS with thermals and a helmet and set up for us to do that.
So it could actually have been agood thing.
But that's sort of the mood thatthat puts me in when I see Megyn
Kelly commenting on actually what Jeffrey Epstein was doing

(01:00:27):
was, you know, he was interestedin legal 15 year olds.
Sorry, are you in Thailand? What the hell is wrong with you?
And. On top of that, this is this is
the shovel you're carrying the shovel.
You are now you are now actuallygetting a bigger shovel and you
are now doing I think this I think now you are you have put
the earth mover, you've put the backhoe into the hole.

(01:00:49):
Just stop. And so everybody has has run
after it. People who are like, if you guys
don't know what this movie was. So people are looking at this
this, this, this is from Sicario.
This guy is like the most ballercharacter in all of Sicario.
He has like 1 of the smaller parts.
He's the guy from Burn Notice and he's awesome and he just
sits there with his mustache andhis like nerd glasses and he
merch the hell out of people. He's like some CIA former
operator guy that's working on Ground Branch and he just starts

(01:01:11):
toasting people. Yeah, he just seems like the
most squared away, tactically sound person in the whole show.
I don't buy anybody else and start firing rounds on Full Auto
in the opening scene, right? Yeah, like the chick does.
Exactly. I think she had a shotgun
actually. The bad guy shot at her with the
full Lotto, didn't he? She dove through the I.
Think she dove through the door with the shotgun, which is even

(01:01:32):
tougher. Yeah.
Anyway, this is the mood I've had saw this posted by some some
mill guys and it's just like, that's kind of how we feel.
Like I can still wear a button up shirt to church and I can
still throw a play carrier on and get to work with my like a
car 15 some some like legacy style classic move.
Anyway, long and short of it is that's a sicario guy reminding

(01:01:53):
us some things just make you a little bit pissed.
And so in the the the awareness field, and I can't not talk
about this only because I'm so amused.
First of all, a number of our audience members were really
thrilled about this clip that I'm going to play you.
But some people just don't understand how to put down the
shovel. And so you can put down the
shovel about Jeffrey Epstein at any moment.
And all you doing by responding to it and getting your proxies

(01:02:14):
and your rapid responses to go respond to it is going to make
everybody know that there's blood in the water.
They can smell it. And the other thing you could do
if you wanted to, like not have something happen is maybe don't
start throwing out wholesale $5,000,000 lawsuits at complete
randos with very, very light predication underneath it when
you're a public figure. And so it drew the attention of

(01:02:34):
Tim Dillon, who he's funny, no doubt about it.
His analysis sometimes aligns with what I see.
I know that we don't have the same feelings on the world, but
people are starting to pay attention.
And even people that I don't like are getting it right.
And I got a Candace Owens clip after this that's going to make
people laugh. It's just this should be really
embarrassing. These guys don't know how to put
down the shovel. Are you ready for the shovel?

(01:02:55):
Sand it. This is where the dirt's getting
thrown and. She goes here's real.
They're like, no, no, hold on. You didn't get the lyrics.

(01:03:16):
You didn't get the lyrics. Tel Aviv.
I've been in Tel Aviv. It's such a pretty sea.
I love Tel Aviv is real is for me.
I love Kesh Patel. Indians don't smell that
stereotype. I'm just a country star.

(01:03:36):
I met him at a bar. I'm not a massage plant.
Why would you say that? Why would you say that?
There's lots of files in the office.
It's impossible to say which ones are.
Jeffrey's Let It Go. She releases a song.

(01:03:58):
Let It Go. Because we're proud Americans.
We're concerned with our families.
We don't need to see no files. Mind your own business, man.
Your own business. That's a cash, Patel.

(01:04:23):
Yikes, guys. Sorry I lost the button there.
It's yeah, that's Patel's girlfriend and he's.
Somebody just said she sounds like everybody who makes a
country song on YouTube that gets 200 views.
Tim Dillon, I guess country music sensations because the the
lawsuit is most likely imminent now after that.

(01:04:44):
Yeah, he's he's most likely imminent.
Because Tim Dillon is a political left, it might have
escaped the radar of the the thewhat was it?
The the sensation country music.Country music sensation?
Blood red Conservative. No, no, I've got that for you
right now actually, because here's the best kind of weird
tie in. Megyn Kelly did a puff piece
interview with Sean Hannity style where she fed her opinions

(01:05:06):
to Alexis Wilkins, who's suing me.
And then Alexis Wilkins agreed with the opinions that Megyn
Kelly had pre drafted. She's Megan Kelly's far more
sophisticated at saying Alexis Wilkins thoughts then then
Alexis is. And so they did this interview.
Fine, whatever. And they actually played a clip
from this guy James Lee, which I'm going to play you, but not

(01:05:26):
this one. This is his follow up piece.
So he's probably going to get a lawsuit next.
But he actually had the originalvideo that was quoted and she
dismissed it and just said, yeah, like, that's just what
people do with a bunch of sort of interesting connection
allegations, so on. Basically all the same thing
anyone else has been talking about.
So now you get a follow up. And he just said, hey, man, I
think we got it wrong. Cash Patel.
This is like a guy in love. It's normal maybe.
We got cash all wrong, right? He's just being a good

(01:05:50):
boyfriend, OK? These disgusting and baseless
attacks against Alexis, a true patriot and a woman I'm proud to
call my partner in life, are beyond pathetic.
She is a rock solid conservative, a country music
sensation who has done more for this nation and most will in 10
lifetimes. I'm so blessed that she is in my
life now. That was in response to Cash

(01:06:13):
being exposed for using a $60 million private jet to go on
dates with Alexis, which of course, he's doing it for love.
And yes, once again, he did in fact call his girlfriend a
country music sensation for all of her smash singles and her
massive following. Others, on the other hand, are

(01:06:33):
claiming that she is a, you knowwhat, which has pissed a lot of
powerful people off. I mean, I don't know where they
could have gotten that idea fromother than the fact that she is
literally working for an actual foreign spy.
It also doesn't help that she's going around saying things like,
quote, there are additional sleeper cells that are preparing

(01:06:54):
to launch attacks all across theUnited States.
Like, how would she know this information, you know?
Anyway, Cash has now fired the official who supervised the
FBI's aviation units for exposing him.
I'm not going to keep playing the video, but it's interesting,
he said. How would she know that?
And then I went back and revisited the piece from the New
York Times, which happened yesterday.
Have you read this by the way? No.

(01:07:15):
Let me let me hit you with this because I covered this the other
day, but I actually didn't get deep enough into the thing.
Then I got some additional sourcing yesterday which is
independent from their story andit confirms and it adds to what
they said. FBI director is said to have
made a a pledge to the head of MI 5 and then broken it.
This episode contributed to concerns among the intelligence
allies cash Patel brass and partisans also predictable and

(01:07:38):
unreliable. So they're doing kind of a hit
piece It's Adam Goldman that's what he does from London.
My nose is extra itchy today. Maybe I should do some some some
additional sniffs. Here we go.
We'll get some good sniffs, somecash Patel sniffs in all right.
So they they agreed to keep thisperson on that.
They like this is someone the Ken McCallum was the MI 5 head.

(01:07:59):
The head of MI five said, pleaseleave this person.
We like this person. That's our FBI contact.
And then they said, yeah, yeah, we'll do that.
And then they said, just kidding.
We're not going to do that. We're going to move somebody
else there. Jody Cohen has been moved there.
She was the former special agentin charge of the Boston unit.
And while she was going through training and some of the like
her pre deployment stuff like you have to do some like

(01:08:19):
trainings. You got to go to like HR.
Apparently she was bragging to anybody that would listen that
Cash Patel asked me for a favor and I said yes, I'd do it if you
give me league at London. And then he gave her league at
London and pulled the person theBrits actually wanted and put in
someone that was his favor. And you're allowed to do that as
FBI director just means you're adirtbag and nobody respects you,
which is not a good thing. So he agreed to keep funding the
post, but the job had already been slated to disappear in the

(01:08:41):
White House. Budget move.
That's not actually what happened.
The agent moved back to a different job in the US, saved
the FBI money, left the MI 5 officials incredulous, and they
moved in somebody different in the league position.
So that's pretty weird. So all those things are just
like crappy management. It's not good to do that with
your allies, etcetera. This is where it gets really
weird. Apparently.
If I had dug deeper into the story, because I just read the
top of it and I went like, OK, Iget it.

(01:09:02):
I understand. He showed up in a hoodie.
Steve. You go meet with a foreign
nation in Britain who are probably some of the most stuck
up and posh people that you can imagine.
That's true, they are pretty stuck up.
Am I wrong? The FB is relationship with MI 5
is arguably the most important in the Five Eyes, a bond that
dates back to at least 1938 whenthe two end agencies

(01:09:24):
investigated A hairdresser from Glasgow providing military
secrets to the Germans. The two agencies have worked
closely on many operations ever since.
And his trip to Britain was the kind where you would kind of
just get together and get to know each other and this is your
first thing. Organizers said that they set
some time to discuss specific investigations and to get
acquainted with each other. The first thing that happened is
he flew in. I got this on additional

(01:09:46):
sourcing as well. He was slated to land at
Stansted Airport outside of London, but he wanted to get a
airport that was closer to the hotel.
And he had his pilots argue withair traffic control on whether
or not they would land at the airport.
They were told to. So that was step one.
And then when they got off the plane, they got into a conflict
on whether or not his security detail could remain armed.
Because when you're in Britain, you can't be armed.

(01:10:07):
League at London, not an armed position.
This is the way it works in manyof these countries.
You're not necessarily allowed to unless you have an agreement
with the host country. And they pushed back and they
fought about it. And they said that he didn't
meet the the police assessment for an exemption.
And then he had his people stay armed anyway, is what I'm told.
So that's cool, whatever you call that when you just don't

(01:10:28):
care. What are they going to do, go up
against Donald Trump as the Brits?
So now they're in this weird spot where he's basically doing
a demeasuring contest and finding the stuff out.
Apparently, there was a discrepancy that prompted an
emergency meeting between FBI and British security officials.
The British security officials held firm.
As I understand it, the the agents may have still just
pressed through and carried their guns anyway because that's
what they were told to do. That's what their boss said.

(01:10:48):
They acknowledged the director had had pressed people on why
the FBI details were not allowedthe same allowances as other
agencies had previously been. Who knows what the reasons are.
It's not your country, so you don't get to say that.
So that's pretty cool. Then they said Mr. McCallum,
that's Ken McCallum. The head of MI 6 is a Scott
known for his discretion in his mild manner, who was very who
was also close to Patel's predecessor, Chris A Ray.

(01:11:10):
And he was waiting for them. Apparently Patel showed up
wearing a hoodie at the time andessentially dressed like a range
bum in tactical clothing. The informal gathering surprised
other attendees when he showed up wearing a trucker's hat and a
green hooded sweatshirt. He frequently attends official

(01:11:31):
events not wearing a suit, breaking with FBI tradition that
shocked the people at MI 5. They also, I heard that he
brought his girlfriend into the building, which is maybe why she
knows about the sleeper cells because she's actually Privy to
things that she has no clearancefor, despite not being a
government and not being a government employee.
That's pretty wild. And then they went to dinner.
And so they actually confirmed that she was in fact on the jet

(01:11:53):
she flew out there, which we'll play that in a second.
But before leaving Great Britain, he and his girlfriend
joined the other security and intelligence professionals at a
Windsor Palace dinner with King Charles the Third.
The night ended, there was a photograph and Mr. Patel stood
next to the king. Must be nice to check on the
taxpayer funded jet and take your chick on our vacation that

(01:12:15):
we pay for, right? I don't know what the approvals
are involved with that that in fact is.
True. I mean, you, you can't use an
FBI vehicle to drive your wife to the grocery store down the
street. Like that's a violation of
policy. Now, different circumstances for

(01:12:36):
the boss. There might be a carve out or
something like that, but I wouldthink that there's a issue with
putting somebody who's not a Bureau employee doesn't have
some sort of dispensation or exemption on the FB Is Jet that
that's a problem and I think wasn't that sort of the concern
about the original allegations that you brought out about
that's. Really what happened to

(01:12:57):
Sessions? Sessions got in, got in trouble
because he was moving his wife around and at least they were
married, but he was moving his wife around on the on the FB is
jet and that's how Sessions got taken out.
Then they made the carve out andmade it quote UN quote mandatory
because of Jim comedy, which is Obama.
So if you love Obama policy, if you want to defend Cash Patel,
you're defending Obama policy, which could be changed like
that. And by the way, cash Patel uses

(01:13:19):
the jet more than Ray, per the analysis of his buddy John
Solomon, who went out there to kind of cover him and ended up
raking himself in the face. Again, the first rule holds.
It's really simple. Just stop.
Just stop digging. I.
Mean to me the the all of the pitfalls of the positions of the
trappings of it could just be easily avoided if you just

(01:13:40):
stayed in Washington, DC and didyour job.
If I was the FBI director, there's no way in the world I'd
be going out and doing the rounds and going and seeing all
the different field offices. And if I'm criticized for not
being accessible to the field, Iwould say, well, that's not my
job to be accessible to you. That's why I have my delegation,
my subordinates, they're called the special agents in charge who

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I've put in the position. They're representing what I want
there. That seems like the best way
that we could avoid this entirely.
Anybody who's ever been in the military knows exactly what I'm
talking about. The dog and pony show that
happens when one of your generals or somebody high up in
your chain of command pops up. When you start like dusting
rocks outside, yeah, you're. You're like, you're like
cleaning up the parking lot and people are picking weeds in
places that they don't even like, doesn't even matter.

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And they do all kinds of illogical things We're.
Like we got to pretend. Like are you to super this thing
that is not real? And then when they leave,
everyone's like, like, don't, don't show up.
If we're in the middle of doing something important like the
general, visit the person from the brass coming in, the dog and
pony show. It is a distraction from the
mission. You want to be a badass?
You want to let cops be cops? Stay out of their hair.

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Stay in Washington, DC, do the nonsense you do, deal with the
political pushback. That's the actual option.
You go out there and you defend and you get budgeting and so on
and you let people do their freaking job.
Chris Ray. I don't think they should do
that job, Steve. Like, I don't think they should
have an agency, but. When Chris Ray visited, all
Hands had to report down to the Omaha field office so that he

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could give 25 minute remarks. And I had to assist with a
security detail because they were, you know, coming up on the
end of the year and their overtime was maxed out.
So they had to use us as a resource to do that.
And they could say, yeah, this is a favor for you to spend all
your free time doing this. He's in a a secure facility, all
FBI people, and yet we're actinglike at any given time an
Assassin's gonna jump out. He gives 20 minute talk to rally

(01:15:25):
the troops, and then everybody gets a picture with the director
when we lose now, not just that day, that entire day of Labor,
but there were people coming from 9 hours away.
So there's a travel day before, there's a travel day after.
You've now taken a small resident agency that might have
two or three agents in it off the board for three days.
Yep, travel both ways plus the full day of waste.

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Yeah, you want to let cops be cops, which is not what they
are? Fine.
Get out of their way and don't do this nonsense and don't go
out there and like upset the therelationship with MI 5 that you
don't even need to be involved in and the girlfriend going
there is crazy to me. So it's just more and more of
this stuff is going to continue to come out and if you try to
cover, you're going to do the Megyn Kelly where you're like
technically a 15 year old is actually not really a pedophile

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if that's what you're about. And then you're going to have
the second piece of it where it's going to be like John
Solomon going. Really.
Jim comedy was the worst and then cash is the second words.
But like Chris Ray was not the worst, even though Cash Patel
said Chris Ray should be grounded and that was his
reason. And he kept, you know, like he
went out there and hammered on that to try to get Chris Ray out
of that job so he could have it.I mean, just stop digging.

(01:16:32):
This is the attitude. This is why it's going to get
bad. Just let the real law
enforcement guys do it. I mean, I talked about it on
American Radicals podcast yesterday, just did a deep dive
on I think 20 different of the press releases.
And I'm not trying to dunk on the FBI for it.
I want, if we're going to prioritize violent crime, I want
to optimize how we do that. And I think there's better ways

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to do it than putting the squarepeg into the round hole of
having the FBI come on in and dothe whole die hard.
Agent Johnson and Agent Johnson no relation with.
That doesn't work anymore, by the way.
People are too young for that when you go out and meet people
in public. When I did that to a guy in the
Army base like he just had no idea my my buddy and and who's a
was my partner SF guy and I bothtried to Johnson and Johnson

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them and he had no idea he. Was like he fell on deaf ears.
Yeah, I just fell on a freaking private who didn't care.
He was like, just whatever. He didn't even care if he cared.
Couldn't even care. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, man, we're we're in a a spot where I'm seeing a lot of
this fatigue happen. I've seen a bunch of videos of
people posted saying they're diehard Trump guys.
And now they're now they're justsad.

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Trump got booed the other day when he went out.
And a lot of it is because they just don't know how to stop
digging these holes. And they're not you.
You can't go out and tell Americans that you're not smart
enough to make batteries or missiles.
You can't go out and tell peoplethat Indians are critical to our
economy and that we're going to get rid of all the illegal
aliens, but not the ones that help my friends, businesses.
People are starting to see through all that.
I actually have one other crazy little clip which I might play

(01:17:57):
for you. This is should I play?
I feel like I should play Candace.
I don't even like that per SE, but should I play Candace?
Is that I think you. Do because I think I've seen
this clip and she gives a white power symbol to begin with.
I don't know about that, but I do have, I have Bondy going out
and doing what they think are wins.
They keep doing these wins. So here's one more piece on the
Alexis thing. This is Candace Owens.
And she's just like, it's embarrassing to have somebody

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who's not a grown up. Yeah, if you're just only
interested in your own things, it doesn't even mean that you're
doing like actual, like real dangerous corruption or that
you're you're somehow compromising American
principles, just being an A holethat looks out for yourself.
It's really ugly to regular people who are looking like, how
do I pay my grocery bill? And things are not any cheaper
than they were. And, you know, maybe gasoline is
roughly the same, but like, groceries continue to cost more.

(01:18:44):
I've talked to people who are like, yeah, I used to buy bacon,
but now I don't because it's really pricey, because it's
5060% more expensive than it used to be.
And it will continue. So anyway, here's Owen's kind of
hitting on just the unserious nature.
And then we'll do this other kind of crazy thing where Pam
Bondi's going after the real criminals, people who menace and
walk around threateningly outside of United States
attorney's offices. Cash Battelle.

(01:19:04):
He has to step down. There's no other option here.
He tweeted. I told you about that a couple
of weeks ago. Leave my girlfriend alone.
And then we see you guys and like, she's my life partner.
Like you left your wife. You've been with this girl for
like a year and a half. Calm down, OK?
Just calm down like a teenager in love.
It's ridiculous. Well, now his girlfriend, turns

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out, is suing Elijah Shaffer andother content creators for
$5,000,000 for $5,000,000 for her hurt feelings.
OK, because she was called a honeypot, an Israeli honeypot.
And in some circumstances, I want to be very clear, they
didn't even explicitly call her a honeypot.

(01:19:47):
They just posted a picture that this is directly from a lawsuit
says that. All right, so they're going to
go read the lawsuit. You guys can read the lawsuit
yourself if you're so inclined. The crazy thing about it is, is
the Streisand effect. The you're you're in the hole,
you stop digging. So what do they do?
They start throwing more lawsuits out at people and
that's really bad. And then here's the other
danger. People get things wrong.
She's talking about a a wife in that clip.

(01:20:08):
That's wrong. That's that's I don't know where
it came from. It may have been actually seated
out there by Erica Knight and these people to try to, like,
give people false talking pointsso they can discredit him.
But he wasn't married, as far aswe can tell.
Yeah, it's not dumb. So anybody can get things wrong
on the Internet because there's information out there that it's
not true. And so you just go out there and
you read it and you go like, oh,OK.
And then, as we said, same as the FBI, you make certain

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assumptions that this is a credible source and it turns out
it may not be. Then you just go and you go, OK,
well, this is not what it is. Something else is true, but all
of this behavior is the worst possible way to continue to draw
attention to it because I've seen an absolute flood on the
social media side, which they care about a lot.
There are dozens of people coming to the offense of this.
I've even seen Dinesh D'souza, which is really surprising, say

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that, you know, suing people fortheir First Amendment is
unacceptable. Good on him.
You know he. Did make the police state movie.
You'd think. And so did the deputy director.
So where is that guy chirping inthis dude's ear that's out there
flying to London saying, hey man, isn't this what we made a
movie about? Like we're talking about
policing thought and people's ability to express themselves.
Do you know how many people havesaid awful, nasty things about

(01:21:11):
me online? I've been called a pedophile for
some reason, because apparently me saying statistically there's
not very many cases that the FBIis going to run after some 764
thing. Apparently that's coverage for
pedophile, which means that I'm also interested in children.
They say that it's gross and yougo whatever people on the
Internet, free speech America. I had a guy last night, night

(01:21:32):
before last that said that I hadmade death threats to him and I
don't even know who he is. And he and he was under multiple
different X accounts. And he came back and he said you
posted a picture of a rifle neara Bay window, which is just like
the Bay window that I have in myhouse, which means that you were
coming to get me. And I was like, stay away from
those Bay windows, man. I don't even know what to tell
you. I don't know who you are.
I don't know where you are. I don't know what you look like.
Like crazy is crazy. And you can say it.

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You know, you can say awful things about people.
There are people out there claiming that Stephen Miller is
a white nationalist and a Nazi. It's just like if you're, if
you're a public figure or a limited purpose public figure.
For the purposes of the discussion, how many people have
called me a Fed, including Judy Kelly?
This is a ongoing joke. I always call you a fed.
It's possible. People don't know this, but

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Steve will always say that on social media whenever I post
something, something a fed wouldsay or whatever.
The best part of it is that her buddies are the actual feds
right now. They actually run the FBI.
So who's the Fed? There's this wonderful.
It's not even, it's not even defamatory.
As broken and dumb and retarded and gay as social medias.
There's a wonderful feature. It's called mute.
Yeah, I use it all the time. I love it.

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And it completely changes your perspective on things and you
don't wind up fighting with a bot or a moron.
Why quibble? Because they're basically both
the same intellectually at this point.
For a time, I muted the terms. Mega.
Yeah, it's too much. Entirely different Internet out
there. Yeah, if you get rid of that
stuff and you're like, oh, not everybody is saying this dumb

(01:22:58):
stuff, but I am seeing a lot of people that are sad about this.
They got the sads, actually. I'll play it.
You know what? I wasn't going to play it, but I
will. And then I'll play Elena Haba.
Kind of like the story about Elena Haba.
It's not helping it. But these people are falling off
what they call the Trump Train, which is also even lamer.
I just like all of it. It's like you put your faith in
a person, of course you're goingto be let down.
What do you think happens in a This is the real world?
If you you don't even know that guy.

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He doesn't even know you exist. Donald Trump doesn't know what
you think about him, nor does heknow when you change your mind.
This guy kind of doesn't get it.Maybe he's coming back to
reality. That'd be a good Little Mix to
reality. Here.
Here we go. I saw Trump be booed at the
football game the other day and honestly dude, it made me kind
of sad. Like people don't realize how

(01:23:39):
much I love Donald Trump. Like if you talk to my friends,
even years ago, they, I, they would have told you that my
favorite person in the world other than Jesus was Donald
Trump. For years I used to drive around
Portland with Trump stickers allover my truck and they would get
scratched off every week and I'dput on new Trump stickers.

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Like I believe that he was different dude.
And he used to walk into UFC fights or football ball games or
baseball games or whatever, and the whole crowd were just erupt
and it was just beautiful to see.
And now, dude, just everything has changed.

(01:24:22):
Like Donald Trump had the ability to be the best president
of all time. He could have closed the
borders, stopped all the woke nonsense and locked up some
politicians, tried to cut down the cabal a little bit, but he's

(01:24:43):
just not who we thought he was, dude.
And to me, it was a very sad realization, like.
That's the saddest thing I've heard I've seen in a really long
time. He has some really good points
and criticisms, but when it comes from this heartfelt place
where he is emotionally broken over a man who he's never met, I

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mean, I I'll presume he's never met Donald Trump, and Donald
Trump doesn't even know he exists.
And that's neither one of their faults.
I mean, one's the president and the other one's just an
American. There's 350 million of us out
there. The odds that you would actually
be interfacing with the president regularly are next to
none. Yeah.
How do you have an emotional connection with somebody like
that that that's no different? Than you've you've created that.

(01:25:25):
That's like saying you're in love with a movie star and she
loves you back. Exactly, or as I have just read
recently that that people are marrying artificial intelligence
chat bots. It's the same thing.
This is a construct in your brain that you've created and
you've now become wedded to it in some way, shape or form.
And people have done this forever, but they're filling a
hole in their life. It's also interesting that he

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says the only person I love morethan Jesus or the, you know, the
only person I love more than Donald Trump is Jesus.
It's like, bro, you need babies so bad.
I mean, he looks like a man. He probably is a decent dude.
Like he lives in Portland and he's putting up with that means
he's probably pretty tough and thick skinned.
And what do you what hole are you filling in your life with
Donald Trump who doesn't know you exist?

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It's it's the, I'm, I'm in love with Rita Hayworth and she loves
me back. And that's how I know.
And she gives me messages through the screen when she
talks to me, I feels like she's speaking right to my soul.
I have it. That's a teenage instinct.
That's how, that's how heart throbs are created where, you
know, the boy bands would go outthere and they'd be like, and I
still love you too. And they would point to like
nobody on the other end of the music video And, and girls were

(01:26:26):
like, or guys would see that. They'd see Britney Spears, which
when I was a kid, or they would see Christina Aguilera.
And they put a poster up in yourroom and you're like, that's,
that's the person who gets me. Like, that's the one I'm about.
And they know me as I know them.And one day, one day we'll be
together. How many 6/16/17 year olds about
their like, dreamed writing in their diary about their dream
guy that doesn't know they existand is in a movie somewhere and

(01:26:47):
is James Dean or something? I mean, this is silliness.
It's sad, it's sad. It's so it's really sad to me
because what it means is there'ssomething else missing in that
guy's life, and I don't want that for him either.
I don't like idolatry, and that's what this is.
This is what we're seeing. Right now our chat is a Parchat.
Point. They're we.
Saw with the Parthenon wannabe knockoff in Denver when Barack

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Obama was talking about when he was elected president that the
oceans were going to recede and he was criticized and his
supporters were criticized and appropriately so.
But we're seeing the exact same thing now.
And that's, you know, we're now almost 2 decades after that.
It's disappointing. It's disappointing for these
people way more than me, but my disappointment is actually that

(01:27:31):
they were there in the 1st placebecause that actually says a lot
about the type of nation that wehave too.
It's not great. And this is it's not getting any
greater. Here's here's another pretender.
Some people probably think Pan Bondi, she speaks for us.
She's got our best interests. Like she doesn't know anything
about you. She's doing what she thinks is
right for whatever reason, for whatever values that you don't

(01:27:52):
know how to assess about her. I can't.
I can't. People always ask me too this
Steve, you ever get this? They'd be like, why do you think
he did that? And I'm like, bro, I can't.
I can't assign a motive to someone I don't know that well.
I can't even assign motives to people I do know unless they've
told me. Why is it doing this?
Ask him. I don't know.
Like somebody asked me what why would Bongino be like this?

(01:28:12):
It's like, dude, why would I consider that I can get inside
the head of a man that I know a little bit and I know him
publicly basically, and who completely did a 180 on me.
I didn't see that one coming. I didn't see Kash Patel pulling
this thing off where he was going to go be like a little
mini Tenu Trump. I didn't, I didn't see it caught
me off guard. So how the hell would I be able
to assess why they did something?

(01:28:33):
I couldn't even figure out why they turned on us.
It seemed like such a dumb idea in the 1st place and it's now
caused them to make a new Twitter account because because
we're so effectively criticizing.
I am so effectively criticizing this goofball Had to go and
launch this which has like what is like an FBI swat guy going
into a Reddit out BearCat. What a lame ass.
Just a lame wannabe. What you what a nerd thinks a

(01:28:56):
cool guy thing is. Anyway, All right, here's here's
Alina Haba story. This is Pam Body saying she was
threatened. We're going to take care of
this. If nothing else, the Trump
administration does seem to worry about taking care of
people. In the Trump administration, we
saw somebody who threatened Benny Johnson get arrested.
I'm sure they'll get this guy too.
Meanwhile, no Epstein files. Here, what we can say is we are
finding these people, we are arresting them and we are

(01:29:16):
charging them. They will go to prison for as
long as we can send them. We know who did this to Alina
Haba. I saw the video.
It's chilling. This guy had a full size
baseball bat pacing like a cagedanimal in front of her office.
Then ultimately he go gets up toher office without the bat but

(01:29:37):
manages to tear apart the front office.
And he, mark my words, he will be in jail and he will be
prosecuted. What they've done to Steven and
Katie, we found that person. That person is now charged in
the Middle District of Florida. You know the the guy that that
put the hit on me, they found him.
People think that they can be anonymous.

(01:29:59):
They think they can get behind a.
Keyboard. It's not easy living.
What? We can say is we are finding
these people. Yeah, whatever, Sean Hannity.
It's not easy. It's a you have guards.
He got up there, he had a baseball bat, but then he didn't
have a baseball bat. When he got angry.
He messed up some office that wasn't her office.
It's like. It's like, I get it, yeah.

(01:30:19):
You shouldn't tear up a thing. Do we not have bigger problems
in this country than your buddy had some scary guy like tear up
an office. I don't even know if she was in
there. It's it's almost reminiscent of
the 9 senators that are out there pounding the lectern about
Arctic frost. That's right, it's really
important. This is a vital priority.
Meanwhile, cosign on all the seven O 2 stuff they can do.

(01:30:42):
Which is probably why they just passed a ability for them to sue
the federal government for $500,000.
You want to toss that in there and then we'll end this up.
Are you going to cover that tomorrow?
Maybe, maybe not, but I can throw it out there.
Yeah, apparently with the new, the new continuing resolution
minibus. So the speaker Smithers didn't
lie to us. We we're not doing continuing
resolutions, we're not doing omnibus.

(01:31:03):
But if we do a hybrid, it's called a minibus.
So. Good to go right now we're.
Also passing budgets for three years so the next election
doesn't matter. Good, so thank you.
But apparently there is a carve out for the 9 senators who were
brought into the Arctic frost investigation and had their cell
phones monitored. They will get to now sue the
federal government for up to $500,000.

(01:31:24):
Per incidents is what I read, sothat's good.
The House members don't. And at least the Senate's taking
care of themselves. Status quo is undefeated.
It is undefeated, Steve. What do you got doing?
What are you doing tomorrow, if anything?
And then we'll shut this down. Sure, American Radicals Podcast
is going to be on rumble.com/amradpod and YouTube

(01:31:47):
at the American Radicals Podcast10:30 Saturday.
Grab bag tradition like no other.
It is a hobbyist podcast, not representing any particular arm
of the government, just talking about open source stuff.
We're going to be talking about how the New York Times is
decrying on behalf of the federal workers who went back to
work, but their lives are still really hard, and then how a
woman who lives in Japan marriedartificial intelligence.

(01:32:09):
So it'll be a fun one. Make sure you join us tomorrow,
Saturday 10:30. There you have it, folks.
Thanks so much for joining me. Steve friend, thanks so much for
joining me. I do have a palate cleanser for
you. I will see you later on.
They can find you tomorrow. Let's go ahead and do a quick
little reminder that you guys can support us for nothing.
Just hit a like you. Just subscribe.
You can notify over on Rumble onYouTube on X.

(01:32:31):
You can find us on locals at kyleseraphin.com.
If you want to watch the replay on Spotlight, it's Kyle
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Kyle serafinshow.com is the easiest way to get to our
Spotify channel. We don't get paid anymore, but
it is a better user experience where you can switch between
audio and video. So I recommend doing that.
And then lastly, some of you guys, including folks over on a
local said that you would like to help with the legal defense,

(01:32:52):
which we've kind of alluded to. I didn't want to get into that
until I actually knew what we were getting into and I didn't
know what it was going to cost us.
And I have no idea still, But atleast I've got my first sort of
checks out of the way and I havesent some money on this myself.
So I'm in the fight. We've filed an excellent motion
to dismiss. We have fantastic lawyers that
are doing good work. They've told me yesterday we're
really excited that we took on your case.

(01:33:12):
So I will do something if you guys want to help out with the
legal defense fund. And I will be highly
appreciative and very grateful if that's something you want to
do. It's very awkward for me to go
out there and tell other people,hey, do you want to kick in on a
problem? But I don't feel like it's a
fair problem. And I don't feel like fighting
against the federal government is something that I'm prepared
to do completely solo, even if we're doing a pretty decent job
of it. So expect a a link out there on

(01:33:34):
the locals and we'll try to put something on X as well.
If you want to kick in big and small will be all appreciated.
And I think that we're going to try to mount a good defense.
And if we have to go and help some other people do the same
thing if we get more than we need, You guys know, I'm not
sitting here trying. I'm not doing this to get super
wealthy. It hasn't worked so far.
In fact, this this show has actually made me more charitable
than I've ever been in my whole life.

(01:33:55):
So and I'm really grateful that I'm in the position to be able
to do that. So as we make money and revenues
come in, I'm also able to help other people and I'll continue
to do that. I will give you a little palate
cleanser. It's not the one we normally
would do. This is not funny.
This is a reminder why all this stuff matters.
And it hit me this morning in a,in a very specific way.
There's a guy named Randy Weaver.
He passed away. He was famous for being at a

(01:34:18):
place called Ruby Ridge. When you hear the FBI and Ruby
Ridge, you may know the story ofRandy Weaver.
Here he is years later, reminding us why a tyrannical
government is terrifying and whyI can't.
Could you talk about that specific animal?
Because it's the thing that can kill you and your family.
It's a big deal. When you have a government that
enforces non law passed by your Congress, you're run by a king

(01:34:40):
and it usually ends up very tyrannical.
This lady here, it was my wife, almost 20 years.
The best mother I knew, the bestwife I knew.
When they shot my wife through the head, Elizabeth was right
here. When I picked her up from

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underneath my wife's body, she had jawbone glass from the
window pane and blood all over. I thought she was wounded, Her
dying too. My son Sam, this picture, he was
11 years old. He died three years later.
US Marshall shot his dog, a yellow Labrador, when the dog
was running home. They atoptied the dog.

(01:35:21):
His story was the dog was attacking him.
Well, apparently in North Idaho,yellow Labradors, they attacked
running backwards because he wasshot right up the rear end to
come out his spine here and wentthrough his right ear.
Sam said you shot strikers. Yeah, SOB.
I'll give you the exact words. Well, I'm going to abbreviate
it. And he fired 2 rounds in this

(01:35:43):
undercover camouflage US Marshals direction that he just
saw to shoot his dog and he turned to run for home.
Another Marshall who's from Boston, MA not too far from
here. He shot this little fella in the
right arm about blew his arm offthe elbow.
But Kevin heard it when they hitSalmon's back.
It was like that. He said it sounded like when
Tony punching the back real heart takes the wind out of you.

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Well, later on it they it was blowing his heart right out when
I picked him up off the ground, dead chunks of meat was falling
out of his mouth. His little eyeballs was halfway
open and rolled back. And the whites.
You don't forget that stuff. A.

(01:36:32):
Reminder there from our friends over at Firearms Policy
Coalition, where I support, theysay no matter how much you hate
your government, it probably isn't enough.
That's not a palate cleanse, butthat is a little mission
statement. Go out there and love your kids,
give them a hug. You never know when things may
get weird and it's just a reminder that we're living in an
unserious time. If you're expecting government
people who don't know you to love you back through the screen
and that they represent you in some way, shape or form, that's

(01:36:55):
not the experience of a lot of folks.
And some people have seen it at a much darker level.
So it's kind of a dark way to gointo a Friday, but it feels
right for some reason on this thing.
They opened our damn government back up with a minibus.
God bless y'all. Have a good weekend.
I'll see you on the other side of it.
We got a lot more work to do here.
We're going to keep trying to dothe the stuff that the Blaze is
doing as well and keep an eye out.
They're going to reveal themselves.

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They keep doing it. They can't help it.
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