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August 6, 2025 52 mins

Episode Summary: In this powerful episode, Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones meet with Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, two courageous women who have been fighting against the use of non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) in cases of childhood sexual abuse. They share their personal stories, the challenges they faced, and their ongoing efforts to bring justice and change to the system. This episode delves into the emotional and legal battles they have endured and highlights the importance of public awareness and legislative change.

https://www.therestitutionproject.ca/about

Since our conversation, Texas and Missouri have passed Trey’s Law, banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault.  So, this law will now cover a population of about 87 million people (this includes both Tennessee and California that already have laws banning NDAs for childhood sexual assault.). As the NDA is a tool of human traffickers this is good news!

Key Points:

  • Introduction: David welcomes Susan MacRae and Sherri Thomson, who are based in British Columbia and Ontario, respectively, and asks them to share how they met and began working together 
  • Susan's Story: Susan discusses her experience with a non-disclosure agreement related to childhood sexual abuse, her legal battles, and the impact on her life.
  • Sherri's Story: Sherri shares her journey of breaking her NDA, the legal repercussions, and the emotional toll it took on her.
  • Legal and Emotional Impact: Both Susan and Sherri discuss the long-term psychological effects of signing NDAs and the challenges of seeking justice.
  • Public Awareness and Legislative Change: The importance of public records, the role of the justice system, and the need for legislative changes to protect victims of childhood abuse.
  • The Restitution Project: Susan and Sherri talk about their initiative, The Restitution Project, aimed at addressing the misuse of NDAs in cases of childhood abuse.
  • Support and Self-Care: How Susan and Sherri support each other and manage the emotional toll of their work.
  • Conclusion: Final thoughts on the fight for justice and the importance of continued advocacy.
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