Welcome to the Provoking Prosperity Podcast, where we dive deep into topics surrounding success, fulfillment, and finding your own version of prosperity. I'm your host, Miranda Mitchell, and in today's episode, we have a very special guest joining us. Dr. Jeanne Marie, the founder of Figgie Beauty and Figgie Life, shares her inspiring journey of overcoming a panic disorder diagnosis and the challenges she faced along the way. Jeanne opens up about the misconceptions surrounding anxiety disorders and sheds light on the daily struggles individuals with panic disorder face. Join us as we explore the importance of understanding and supporting those dealing with mental health, as well as the role of medication in managing these conditions. Get ready for an episode filled with vulnerability and raw discussions.
About Dr. Jeanne Retief
Jeanne was diagnosed with Panic Disorder in 2015 which forced her to reconsider her life path and views on mental illness. Facing a health and soul crisis, she had to make difficult choices. The human rights career she built with a single-minded focus no longer inspired her, and the symptoms of her diagnosis were wreaking havoc on her life. Seeking peace but still craving a challenge - she created FIGGI Life & Beauty. FIGGI Life is for every woman like her who has struggled, achieved,and still seeks professional and personal purpose. She offers no secrets to happiness, only candid life experiences, a sacred space where its okay NOT to be okay and a judgment-free community. Sensitive skin was a constant symptom of her diagnosis, and so, after completing her Certificate in Advanced Cosmetic Chemistry she released her luxury skincare experience for sensitive souls with dry skin woes. *Jeanne is South African and now lives in Portugal with her husband, toddler and two dogs. She has a PhD in international criminal and humanitarian law, presented on key human rights issues worldwide, and consulted for 15 years in this field.
Key Topics/Show Notes of This Episode:
- importance of being real and authentic in today's filtered and branded world
- Jeanne's lifelong anxiety and sensitivity
- Difficult experiences of sexual abuse and assault that contributed to her panic disorder
- Difficulty in diagnosing panic disorder and the toll it takes on physical and mental health
- Society's misconceptions about panic disorder and anxiety-
- The nature of panic disorder and its constant presence in a person's life
- "Panic Hangover"Primary Topic: Treatment and Medication
- The decision to take medication for a better quality of life despite personal reservations
- The importance of finding the right therapist and medication plan that works for each individual
Reflection Questions:
1. Notice if you have or have had your own perceptions of panic disorder? Do you have more awareness and emptahy towards others on their life path now that you have listened to this podcast?
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So grab that cup of coffee, get comfy, and get ready to hear the heartwarming and heart wrenching personal stories, all things jinkies plus tangible practices that you can implement right now for your personal and business growth.
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Welcome back to the provoking prosperity podcast this is miranda mitchell your host and today i have a very special guest john murray who i'm going to have her introduce herself before we go deeper thank you so much for being here oh, thank you so much for having me.
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I'm very excited for this podcast.
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I'm the founder of Figgy Beauty and Figgy Life Figgy Beauty is a skincare line for dry and sensitive skin and Figgy Life is just a community for women that offers a sacred space where it's okay not to be okay.
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And it was founded because of my panic disorder diagnosis and the mismanagement of that in my previous life.
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Where my expertise was international criminal and humanitarian law, and I had a human rights consultancy.
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And then after my diagnosis, I had to make some pretty tough decisions.
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And that brought me to where I am now here on your podcast.
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Just showered and forgot it's like a video podcast.
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So raw and uncensored.
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Oh, I love uncensored I love real because so many of us have this picture, especially nowadays with social media and everything.
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It's like all filtered, all not real, all perception, all branding.
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So I love.
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Real.
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And you know, yes, it's a yes.
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And I feel like we get to be truly real.
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And then we also get to create our brand.
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It's a, there's no wrong way.
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Thank you.
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I would love to hear a little bit more about your panic.
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Disorder.
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Because I don't have a lot of experience with that and I feel like for my own learning and my own compassion and love for people, I would love for you to share more about that, what that is, what occurred, if you don't mind going into some of the vulnerable spots with that.
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Yeah, sure.
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I've always been an anxious person ever since I was a baby.
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My mom used to tell me I always used to have my little hands and fists even while I was sleeping.
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So I think I was just kind of born wired that way and very, very sensitive.
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But I had a really difficult childhood.
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Home life and upbringing and I was sexually abused by my grandfather for a couple of years when I was young, when I was a child and he lived with us.
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So it was a difficult kind of ongoing situation and I unfortunately had an incident as a young adult of sexual assault also from a person.
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That was part of the family and in a position of trust, so I think compounding with this is the way I'm wired, all of these things happened, and then I launched myself into a human rights career, where I was constantly working with these kinds of topics and elements, and not really dealing with it, I think the way that I should have.
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And finally in 2015 the actual diagnosis was made.
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And it's really difficult to diagnose because I had to go through so many, many tests.
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Like we thought there was something wrong with my brain.
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Then we thought there was something wrong with my heart.
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Then they thought it was like gastrointestinal.
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Terogical issue that I had.
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It was the most horrifying, horrible time.
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And all throughout these tests, I was having panic attacks on a rolling basis every day while we're trying to figure out what's wrong with me.
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So it really just wasn't.
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I figured out how to kind of live with it.
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I think I, I bargained with it a little bit.
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So I mismanaged it a lot.
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And when we immigrated to Portugal in 2020, I call it the breaking.
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It all just came completely crashing down.
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Well, thank you for sharing There's, there's a lot there.
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I'm going to seed something because I looked at your chart beforehand and you do have the channel 4037 and I'm more so seeding this for my own brain to remember to bring it back up.
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The 4037 channel, it is the only channel that connects Thanks.
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Your will center and the only activation in your role center to your emotional solar plexus so they're kind of broken off in this little area by themselves, the will and the emotions and the 4037 is all about agreements.
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And it's all about mother energy, father, the family energy, for you to be dealing with those two instances with friendships and family that definitely could have had the impact on what's going on with you today, because that for to be broken.
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That is detrimental for your energy for who you are.
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Oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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I will show you those in the next podcast too, but I wanted to pinpoint that so I didn't forget to share that with you just in case I got wrapped up in other things and forgot to share.
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Oh, thanks so much.
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When you mention your story and you mentioned that there's misconceptions about that, I would love for you to go on the misconceptions about panic disorder or anxiety that a lot of society has.
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Oh, here's a good one because I love that noise.
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That means something.
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There are so many, but I think the two that kind of the two or three that get me down the most is.
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First, I think that there's this misconception that if you say you have panic disorder, or an anxiety disorder, and there are many different types of anxiety disorder, there's generalized anxiety disorders, social anxiety disorders, panic disorder, and you really have to be properly diagnosed.
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It's like an entire diagnostic tool that they have to go through to To see which one if any you have, but I think when people hear that, they think, Oh, it's somebody that stresses a lot, or that's not able to handle stress the way that others do.
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And if they hear panic disorder, they're like, Oh, it's somebody that gets panic attacks.
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And while that's true, the nature of the disorder is so much more because you have to remember the nature of it is that you are constantly in fight.
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You don't go down like everybody else does where your stress levels, healthy stress levels go up and then you relax and you go up and you're, you're always like buzzing underneath.
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And this affects so many areas of your life, insomnia, gut issues, migraine attacks Blood pressure dropping all sorts of issues with food, all of these things happen to you and post panic attack.
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You can be down and out for anywhere between 48 hours and two weeks.
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You get migraines.
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You cannot get out of bed.
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You're so incredibly depressed.
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You're dealing with the guilt that it's happened again.
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Your body just feels like you've run this.
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marathon.
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So it's all of this.
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You have to manage every single day and you have to learn what your triggers are and how those affect you and how those will probably lead to another relapse.
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I was not at all happy with going on medication.
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I still have a bit of a difficult relationship with it, but for me personally, it worked and I have a wonderful psychiatrist that helps me and knows that I don't want to be on a whole bunch of pulls and everything.
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But I had to make a decision between taking a little pull and having a great quality of life, despite my wiring or not being able to function at all in my daily activities.
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And when you have a broken bone or diabetes and, or somebody else and they tell you they take medication for that, you're like, Oh yeah, of course you, you need to, you need to take your insulin or, or, or whatever, but mental, you cannot see.
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So it's difficult to define what goes on and why you would need medication for that.
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And it's very hard sometimes.
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To hear what other people say to you in those, like, do you understand what this is doing to your body? Do you know how bad this is for you? And, you know, they don't know your journey and what you've been through to get there and how hard it's been for you to make this decision.
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So those are the two biggest, biggest ones, I think.
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Those are big.
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Those are big.
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And I resonate with both of them.
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When you said them, it's like, yep, I feel that.
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I feel that, you know, and the medication too, I feel like sometimes we're conditioned we hear all the time that you, you can heal yourself all by yourself.
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You don't need medication and.
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I believe that's a yes.
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And as well, if you're a person that's just going to go try every single medication that they hand you or not even question things.
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And it's not intentional.
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That is so different than really sitting with it and making the decision.
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This is why I'm taking this so that I can have a better quality of my so I agree with you because even thyroid is like that.
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People get on my case with thyroid I was so exhausted.
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It was my quality of life and I chose it Because of this and I'm standing by it So it's interesting with conditioning and social norms sometimes even things like that Make you feel guilty or make you feel like you have to defend yourself For trusting your own inner knowing and what you know is going to support you Of course.
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And we're all wired differently.
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You know, I'm not saying that at all.
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I'm not a medical professional, but there are people who don't need medication and that feel that they're better just with holistic methods.
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And I'm all for that.
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But it didn't work for me.
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I, I involve a lot of holistic methods in my life.
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I practice mindfulness.
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Into meditation, I exercise, I eat well, because all of these things are linked to my triggers, but that alone didn't work for me.
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I needed something to help me just to calm that baseline buzzing all the time, because you know, when you have food poisoning, I would feel like that three or four times a month.
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And I'd be down for three or four days because that was what the stress was doing to my body.
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I wouldn't be able to go out into a mall because I would be terrified of all the lights and the people and the sounds and the noise and I couldn't function.
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So for me, it was a difficult decision and was a hard path to get there because it's trial and error.
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And unfortunately, all of these medications have side effects.
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So you feel horrible from the side effects and then you have to go off it and try something else and you feel horrible from the side effects.
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So, I think it's just so important for us to remember to sympathize with somebody else's journey, because you don't necessarily know what it's taken for them to get where they are.
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I know the last time that we talked.
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I think you were at a cabin.
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Yeah, I was in my office.
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Now I'm in the recording space where it's much quieter.
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It's not wood, which I, I love, but I'm wondering is.
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One of the things that support you, is it more having your own space, retreat, What are the few things that you bring into your life that support you so that you feel grounded in yourself? I think for me, it is definitely, I need to take breaks during the day in nature, or I need to have a space that to me feels, I Sacred where I can do whatever I want.
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I can cleanse the energy if I want to, I can sing to the moon, I can call on the fairies.
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I can do whatever I want and whatever feels good to me.
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And that's why I set up my office that way, because I have to be so careful about when my levels of stress increase.
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And sometimes when you get busy during the day, meeting and meeting and meeting, you ignore it or you don't.
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I can't see it so quickly, and now that I have like an exercise space right there, it's so easy to just quickly jump up and down on the trampoline a couple of times just to release that energy or to just run full out five minutes on the treadmill and then go back to my desk.
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It really just helps me to release all of that paint up bubbling noise inside of my mind.
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And it doesn't always work because sometimes I've pushed it too far, but I'm definitely in a much better space than I was without doing these things.
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So we learned about your experience and how you've learned about yourself and how you really take care of yourself now.
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Would you go into Figgy? And explain to us what is Figgy lifestyle? I'd like some detail on that.
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And then I'd love for you to go into the beauty aspect as well.
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Like tell us about Figgy.
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Thank you.
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Okay.
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So Figgy life is really what happened during the breaking in 2020 is we moved to Portugal and we were going to transplant our businesses here.
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For my husband, it was no problem because his business was already running this way.
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But my human rights consultancy was very much focused on African developing countries and the developing countries as a whole.
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So many hours, so many sacrifices, and now I'm a failure because it's not working.
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We all associate our identity with something in some way, and that was my identity.
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Jean Marie Rediff, I was going to presidential inaugurations, I was very respected in my community, and all of a sudden, I was just Jean, Hof's wife.
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So that entire thing was just so devastating.
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And one of the things that really threw me out of my consultancy was the fact that I knew how to do these projects, but I always.
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I had such a hard time getting the practicalities of it out because of the red tape, the bureaucracy, all of the diplomacy, everybody's needs that need to be made, the politics.
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And I know there are other women like me, professionals that feel the way I feel, and that just need a space where it's okay not to be okay.
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Without all of these how to life advices that are constantly telling you to be positive and then you feel guilty because something happens to you because you weren't positive enough or you didn't do the work and I really just wanted to create this community of people and figs are my favorite fruit.
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And I wanted to name it Figgy, and when I googled it, the symbolism of the fig was feminine energy and co creating your own destiny, so I thought, okay, divine intervention.
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Oh my goodness, I love that.
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I didn't know that that's what that meant.
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Oh, I love that, how that story, how that you just connected those dots and it means something so powerful that you wanted, that you bring.
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Ah, thank you.
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What, what is figgy beauty? Cause I know you said you had sensitive skin.
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A lot of, when this was happening, your skin is very sensitive.
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A big thing about my panic disorder was I was hiding it.
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I was very ashamed of it.
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I told my husband, we couldn't tell anybody.
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Anything can be wrong with me except anxiety.
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Like that's bad.
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So if I was going to do Figgy, I needed to take ownership of this and just accept this is how I am wired.
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So I wanted to offer a product that speaks to that.
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And that brings me kind of out of hiding.
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And one of the main symptoms of the panic disorder for me is sensitive skin again, because of your cortisol levels, it affects the second layer of your skin where you have all of your nervous neurons firing.
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So it feels like your face is constantly itching and on fire and burning.
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And I had this beautiful South African ingredient, which has so much scientific research behind it.
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I don't know if you've had the tea before.
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It's so good and there's so much research behind it.
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It's an anti inflammatory.
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It has cancer preventative properties.
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So all the products contain that.
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They're all fragrance free, essential oil free, vegan, cruelty free.
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Really, really for dry and sensitive skin.
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A trophy to my panic disorder.
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You know, like this is the one thing I can do for me, the small thing kind of works and where I don't have to feel bad that this is me.
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Is it only for sensitive skin We worked so hard on the formulas to make sure it's a beautiful fit for dry and sensitive skin.
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So that's why I always make sure to, to state that.
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We have so many people that don't have dry and sensitive skin that love the day cream and that love the cleansers, because I think it's because it's so gentle and it's so mild, so it's so difficult to upset the skin with these ingredients and the beauty of it is what it does not have.
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My daughter was coming to my mind.
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She's only 11, but she loves her skin care.
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Pixie Alexa Oh, that is so good.
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And she loves it too.
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She loves, she calls it Figgy garden because she can't say goddess.
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I will have to look into it for my daughter because she gets eczema on her arms.
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And she does have some dry, so it might really support her in that.
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You were saying about eczema and we're actually in the process of applying for our eczema seal.
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So it's not there yet, but we're in.
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The process of getting that done.
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Yeah, I, you know, I had a relapse two months ago, which was very bad for me.
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It was a really tough time and takes time to come back out of that.
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This is the way.
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If you are like me, you are wired.
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And you are going to relapse sometime you will, and it makes it so much worse if we feel so guilty.
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So my husband came to me once and he said, you know what, we're going to look at this as a bad day.
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You had 30 bad days, then you had two bad weeks, and I have one bad day every three months.
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This was a bad day.
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We're not going to like deep dive into it and dissect it and everything.
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It happened.
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Tomorrow, we kind of try again, and that completely changed my perspective on when this happens.
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It's okay.
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It's okay that it happened.
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Just go back to your tools that you were practicing.
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Go back to your lifestyle management.
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It's gonna be okay That's such a great reminder for Everybody, you know Everyone has days where they get triggered Everyone has days where they're stressed or everything, you know, and a lot of the times we get down on ourselves because, Oh my gosh, I've been doing my work for so long.
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Why did this happen? You kind of get down this rabbit hole, but it truly is.
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And it's the 40, 37 again with your chart.
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It's truly about that compassion and love for yourself for every moment.
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That you in even the moments that are bad or low or triggered When you have a day like that, it's letting yourself enjoy whatever you can in that day, and not create a belief about it at all.
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It just is.
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Yeah, that's the key thing.
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That is so important to not create that belief.
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Yeah, I agree a hundred percent.
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I wanted to thank you for being in this space, for connecting with me, for sharing your story, for being vulnerable.
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Also for the strength that you have in connecting with who you are and putting yourself out there I want to thank you for that strength.
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I want you to know I acknowledge that strength.
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Like I see that strength in you and sometimes.
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We do need that acknowledgment when we're doing all that work, right? Yes, that validation.
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It's so important.
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Thank you so much.
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That means so much to me.
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You're very welcome.
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Well, everybody, all of her info will be in the show notes.
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So definitely take a look at that.
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And on the next podcast, we are going to be going into her chart.
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So definitely tune in for that.
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I can't wait to see the synchronicities.
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