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May 9, 2024 62 mins

Access to affordable space has always been a concern for New York City theatre makers; this episode shines the spotlight on some visionary leaders who recognized the need for more artistic space and decided to do something about it! Despite some closures during the COVID-19 lockdown and ever-rising real estate costs, the story of New York City’s artistic venues may actually be one of evolution and rebirth. 

Tune in as leaders from Brooklyn Art Haus, IndieSpace, and People’s Theatre Project discuss breaking ground on new real estate ventures, their place in their communities, and how they balance affordability with the need to financially sustain their space!

“I don't know a single venue operator in the indie scene that doesn't want to make their space more affordable for the people to use it. We all want that.” - Randi Berry

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Randi Berry, Executive Director of IndieSpace 

Isaac Bush, Founder and Executive Director of Brooklyn Art Haus

Mino Lora, Founding Executive Director of People's Theatre Project  


INTERVIEWER: David E. Shane (he/him/his), Director of Program Services, A.R.T./New York



Ashley J. Hicks (a.k.a. Ash, she/her) Programs Coordinator for A.R.T./New York

Nicky Maggio or “N” (they/them) Programs Manager at A.R.T/New York 

**Visit the episode webpage for full guest and host bios


Additional Links: IndieSpace People’s Theatre Project Brooklyn Art Haus HERE Arts Center Rattlestick Theater Northern Manhattan Arts Alliance National Black Theatre The Bushwick Starr

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“What’s Off?” Production Staff David E. Shane, Executive Producer Erica Wray Barnes, Associate Producer Ashley J. Hicks, Episode Line Producer Dante32, Audio Engineer

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