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July 18, 2023 50 mins

In this special episode of “What’s Off?” A.R.T./New York Co-Executive Director Risa Shoup explores what it means to be a caregiver and to be cared for as a working theatre professional. Risa speaks with Tony nominee Amber Gray who has practical solutions about how to shift the culture of care on Broadway. Nonprofit theater leader Roberta Pereira talks about The Radical Parent Inclusion Project -  a partnership between PAAL and The Playwrights Realm -  and Lindsey & Michael Sag describe how they are operationalizing care for themselves and the organizations they lead. 

Join Risa as they weave together common themes of balance, flexibility, responsibility, and humility in this thoughtful exploration of what it means to care for someone, even yourself, within the historical context of a field that believes no matter what that “the show must go on.”

“I think the important part is that bringing our whole selves is actually what makes us better. It makes the field and makes the art better” - Roberta Pereira 


Episode Transcript 

For more information, including guest bios please visit the episode webpage.

For many more resources about caregiving, visit our valued parters at the Parent Artist Advocacy League for Performing Arts + Media, the National Network and Solutions-Generator for Caregivers in the Performing Arts!


Additional Links:

Lincoln Center for the Performing Arts

The Playwrights Realm

WP Theatre


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“What’s Off?” Production Staff

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