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February 19, 2025 44 mins

New York Governor Kathy Hochul is meeting with city officials to discuss the removal of Mayor Eric Adams. Why would she do something like this? Jesse Kelly gives his take. This all stems and originates from the southern border crisis, which just took another turn with reports of the CIA flying drones into Mexico to spy on the cartels. Jesse gets analysis from the Center for Immigration Studies fellow Todd Bensman on this. Stephen Yates also joins the show to break down a state department move that enraged the Chinese, among other national security topics. Plus, Senator Tommy Tuberville shares insight on the future of Kash Patel's confirmation as FBI director. 

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Let's talk about local government.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
What does it mean to be a good Democrat these days?
Let's talk to Senator Tommy Tuberville, and China's already met
at us coming up, and I'm right, what does it
mean to be a good Democrat these days?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Well, that's a fascinating question to ask.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
And one that we're actually seeing play out in front
of us with what's happening in New York City. Now
stay with me, whether or not you're in the Big Apple,
this will apply to you.

Speaker 1 (00:39):
Let's start back in kind of the beginning.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Eric Adams. Eric Adams is current mayor of New York City.
Kathy Hochel, the governor of New York State, is reportedly
seriously considering removing him as mayor. Very odd law they
have in New York allows her to do such a thing.
But let's, like I said, and talk about how all
this began. Eric Adams was elected in New York City

(01:06):
as look, whatever he is, I'm not an Eric Adams fan.
He was elected as kind of the anti Bill de
Blasiomember Bill de Blasio, that big commie goober who just
tore New York City to shreds. I personally over to
Blasio's time as mayor went to New York.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
I always go to New York City. I have to
go for work all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I watched New York just steadily just go down the
longer de Blasio was there. Remember, the cops hated his guts.
The cops really really hated his guts. And so New
York this is a moderate selection for New York picked
Eric Adams, former NYPD cop, thought to be more pro
comp but definitely he's not built of Blasio. Again, he's

(01:48):
not my guy, but he's not built of Blasio. Eric
Adams gets in there, does his thing, and then the
Biden administration did, well, what horrible anti American communists do.
They not only opened up the border, they used your
money to bring in as many foreign barbarians as humanly possible.

(02:10):
And of course, originally, you remember this, originally they had
just tried to stash them in the reddest states or
the border states.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Hey hey just leave them all in Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
But to his credit, Greg Abbott really was the pioneer
on this, and Ronda Santas did it as well.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
They figured out, hey, we can just.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Ask these people if they'd rather go somewhere else, and
if they say yes, we can ship them there started
shipping illegals into New York City.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Well, cities are not the country. They can't print money.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Cities, especially New York since it's on a freaking island,
have limited room, limited resources. And if you're a mayor
of New York City, of any town, small town, big city,
if you're Eric Adams, you want to do.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Things during your time as mayor. You want to be remembered.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You have that city budget, you want to figure out.
I want to put in an ice rink here, the
Eric Adams ice rink. They will always remember me for that.
I have no idea whether or not he wants an
ice rink. But that's the kind of thing. That's the
kind of way you think.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
When you're the mayor.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Except you're starting to have to house all these illegals,
starting to have to feed all these illegals. You're watching
crime go through the roof. And not only are all
these things happening, Eric Adams was elected in large part
because the black community of New York City came out
and supported his run for mayor. Well, like we've talked

(03:35):
about many times before, it's not just the hotels. Where
are they putting most of the illegals in these big cities,
the Chicagos, the New York's, the putting them in the
black neighborhoods. Why, because those are the poor neighborhoods. That's
where you can stuff them in the gym, stuff them
in the crappy school, have a good time.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Long story short. Eric Adams starts.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
To get tripped at out in public. So let's get
to put some pushback. Eric Adams decides, I'm not going
to just hand over my reputation as mayor to the
Biden administration just so they.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Can burn out America.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
And he it wasn't even it was a little forceful,
I guess, but it's not as if he was belligerent.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Started speaking out publicly.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
The city is being destroyed by the migrant crisis.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
This is in the lap of the President of the
United States. The President.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
And the White House has failed New York City on
this issue.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Okay, now that's a call out for sure. It's not
calling Joe Biden every name in the book, say hey,
we failed in New York City. You failed us on
this issue. He understands that. Well, the Biden administration did
something next, and it's very difficult to give them the
benefit of the doubt. About five minutes after Eric Adams

(04:50):
started speaking out, the Federal Bureau of Investigation descended on
eric Adams, like among Holly and Hoarde, immediately we're told there.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Were corruption charges corruption.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
They love saying that, and let me be perfectly clear
about this.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Maybe they were. He's a New York City politician. There
probably were.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
I don't have any idea the validity of the charges.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
I don't know, You don't know, No one knows.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
But if you're the by deministration, and you already have
a record of setting the FBI after your political opponents,
You've rated mar Lago, You've arrested pro lifers. He's sent
the counter Terrorism Division after school board moms because you
wanted them to quiet down.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
You were hardly going to get the benefit of the doubt.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
When the mayor of New York City complains about you
publicly and then the FBI shows up at his doorstep,
it looks political.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Probably was.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Even if the charges are legit, it probably was political.
But then Eric Adams pretty crafty move. Eric Adams starts
to read the tea, leaves sure the BI de administration's
after him. Sure, the FBI is after him. But these
poll numbers for Donald Trump are looking real good. Looks
like Trump may be forty seven after all, meaning me

(06:00):
get another turn time in office. So Eric Adams reportedly
goes and meets with Donald Trump, starts to speak kindly
with Donald Trump, doesn't sit down with Tucker Carlson. Donald
Trump does win the election, and Eric Adams is now
best buddies with Tom Holman.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
I came to New York City. I wasn't gonna leave
up nothing I did the last time, and I told
him I'm not leaving until I got something. And we
got was showing back into Rikers. That's huge, but we
got other things we're working on.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
So I'm hoping.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
And now I got him on the couch in front
of me, and is the people he came back waving
is now right our city.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Talking about the new alliance between Ice and Adams.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
So thank you very much for coming in.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Alliance was never I mean, he doesn't come from Toware.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
If he doesn't come true, I'll be back in New
York City and we won't be sitting on the couch
up in his office, up up his butt saying where
the hell is the agreement we came to so.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
I want to live, and I want I said, we're
going to deliver food and safety of the people of
this city.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
So now they're chumming, and just like that, the charges
have been dropped. Very clearly, a political decision has been made,
a political alliance and agreement, if you will. Donald Trump
gets some ice enforcement in a city overrun with illegals.
Donald Trump gets a political ally in a city and

(07:25):
state where he has a lot of very legitimate political
access to grind. Eric Adams gets to not go to prison,
and we're all off nice and clean. Now that's the backstory.
But there's something Eric Adams came out and said about
his interaction with the Biden administration that I thought was
that there was a throwaway line. It was a few
weeks ago he said this, but I thought it was

(07:45):
just so incredibly revealing, is what he said about.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
I spoke with the President himself. I spoke with the
president first.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Then the President came here to New York City. The
governor and I sat down with the President and I said,
mister President, I'm not sure what they're telling you about
this problem, but this is a terrible problem. That's planning
out on the ground that we need to fix our
border and we need to just stop allowing people to
come into the country with no destinies.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
And so you tell the President and his aids this,
and what do they say?

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Basically, be a good Democrat, Eric, be a good Democrat.
That was the basic overall theme.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know, one of his ages told me that, listen,
this is like a goldstone.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
It'll pass. It's like a gallstone. It'll pass.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Yes, it'll hurt now, but it'll pass.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Will you pee it out? Then? Why do you have
to well.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Say, be a good Democrat. That actually brings me to
my point. The Democrat Party will come back.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
They will, they will.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
It doesn't look like it right now, which we'll get
to in a second, but eventually they will.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
But where are we as a country.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
When being a good Democrat means you have to be
okay with filling up the country with barbarians?

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Is that where we are as a country?

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Because if it's where we are, then we are in
very very serious trouble, extremely serious trouble. In fact, look
at Boston's Police Commission.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
You know, in the Boston Police Department has pretty defined
rules set by the law and we abide by the
law here in the state, and we don't, you know,
enforce civil detainers regarding federal immigration law. It's you know,
it's defined here in the state, and that's just how
it works.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Well, you've lined up the state.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
How do you navigate the difference between the state, the
city of Boston, and Washington, d C.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
And so I can't you know, it's hard enough to
run the Boston Police Department. I never fathom running outside
of that. So I do know this. Our officers are
you know, bye by the laws here in the state
and certainly in the city. In the city of Boston,
we don't have authority to enforce federal immigration law. And
so from our perspective, and what we tell anyone who

(10:19):
comes to visit our city, lives in our city, is
that we don't care about you immigration status.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That, of course, would be a good Democrat.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Where are we as a country when we have two
major political parties and in order to be in good
standing with one of them, you have to believe in
the open border importation of barbarians, rapists, and murderers.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
I know we're all excited right now. I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Right now, I'm excited about the Trump administration. I'm doing
backflips about the things I've seen. I've never had a
month where I've done this much smiling about politics in
my entire forty three years on the planet.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
I'm happy, but.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
I can't stop thinking about where we are as it
pertains to the Democrat Party, because although.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I am not one and will never be one.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
The truth is, in order to continue for another one
hundred years, five hundred years as a country, we have
to have a Democrat Party that is not what it
currently is.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
We can't do this.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Thing every four, eight twelve years where we import twenty
million barbarians and then continue on as a country.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
It won't work.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
We won't be able to deport fast enough. The Trump administration.
It is not deporting fast enough. It's not humanly possible.
So to be a good Democrat now means to hate
your country. I hope that changes, And until that changes,
I hope the American people recognize that and completely reject
this party and burn it to ash.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
We're going to talk to the coach, Senator Tommy Tuberville
of Alabama in just a moment before we talk to coach,
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slash jessetv. There's one confirmation still outstanding. There are more

(13:13):
than one, but there's one big one we're all waiting
with baited breath to see, and that's the confirmation of
Cash Battel as FBI director. We know at least a
little bit of what's going on inside the Hoover.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Building, and what we do know is horrific.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is cash Ptel going to get in When he gets in,
is he going to be able to clean ad it up?

Speaker 1 (13:31):
I don't know. Let's ask the coach about it.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Joining me now, a great senator from the state of Alabama,
Coach Tommy Tuberville, coach Cash Battel. Is he getting in
this week? Let's start with the basics.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
Yeah, I think he's going to get in. I think
it won't be close. He's gonna get maybe a Democrat
or two. But we need Cash. We need him now.
It's probably the most screwed up agency we have in
the government. They're all screwed up, but even this one
even more. But we need to get him in. We
need to get the people behind him. His deputy and
the people are going to work with him too. There's
a long list of things he'll have to do once

(14:03):
he gets in, so it's not going to just happen overnight.

Speaker 1 (14:06):
He's gonna be able to clean up the FBI. Yeah,
that's obviously going to be a process.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
And I'm worried about him being stonewalled by all the
corruption in their Coach.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Why did the FBI get so bad.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
You mentioned it's one of the worst, if not the words,
it sure seems that way to me.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
But why that organization in.

Speaker 8 (14:25):
Particular politics, We got more people that were involved in
politics involved in the FBI. What happened is Barack Obama,
he took over the FBI back during his day. He
took out the top thirty forty people that were actually
former FBI agents running the bureau and put in bureaucrats
and it just went downhill from there. So it has

(14:48):
just been infiltrated over the last ten twelve years, maybe
even longer than that. But again, we've got to get
people in the FBI that understand investigation, want to want
to work, work with our agencies across the country to
put people in jail if they've broken the law. But
right now it's a total disaster.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, sure is, coach. Why the delay?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
The people on the outside looking in, they don't understand
how the Senate works, what the procedural problems are. Obviously
everyone's desperate. I know you're desperate. Get cash Battell in there.
Why is he not in there yet? Why was this
not you know, twenty four hours after Trump put his
hand on the.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Good Book, Well, it's because you have to go through
a procedure. He had to go through the Judiciary committee.
Then there's so many days that you have to wait
before you can bring him to the floor. And then
once you get to the floor, yet you know you
had people in line. But again it's I would hope
you'd have got in last week, but it's probably just

(15:45):
a week a little late, but again, better late than never.
He's the perfect person for the job. He'll get it done.
And he's been hadn't been doing anything behind the scenes
in terms of his job, but he is making plans.
The day one that he gets in, he's going round running.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I'd hate to be a corrupt agent.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, let's shift gears here, because Doge is all in
the news right now exposing just some of the most
horrific rotten side the federal government. Even cynics like me
who just assume the Feds are blowing all my money.
You wake up every day and you're shocked that the
things are money's going to.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
But the Pentagon cometh that audit is going to be
an ugly one.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
And I think the American people are going to bet
they thought they were matter about us. Eight I think
the Pentagon audit is going to open some eyes to
what's going on in this country.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
Yeah, the Pentagon, the RS, there's a lot of agencies
that are really going to i think, be outed in
terms of how they've spent taxpayer's money for years, not
just the last couple of years. But again, it all
goes back to we have so many bloated agency agencies
in this country, who have so many bureaucrats people that

(16:54):
really don't do their job is just to look at
the IRS. I mean that they have weapons themselves against
a lot of Republicans this country.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
So it's just it's a total disaster.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Coach, I did not expect yesterday to wake up and
see that Fort Knox was somehow in the news and
somehow a source of controversy. Apparently now people are wondering
if there's actually gold still in the place, what is
what is the controversy?

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Is there one with Fort Knox? Did Bob Menendez take
all the gold bars?

Speaker 8 (17:30):
That it's so speaker that everybody's just kind of hanging
back and kind of wondering if there is really goal there.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I would imagine that he is.

Speaker 8 (17:38):
I've heard some people that actually saw the gold a
few years ago. But again, I would love for somebody
like Rand Paul to have the opportunity to put his
eyes on.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
It and and.

Speaker 8 (17:48):
Squashed this, uh, this mystery. But again it's you just
never know about this country. Who would have ever thought
that we were shipping out tree ins at dollars to
across this country to people people that supposedly have paid
in the Social Security but they're living in other countries
that are three hundred.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
And fifty years old. It's a disaster. How it is
a disaster.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
All right, Let's shift gears to something that near and
dear to your heart. I know we talked a little
bit about the Pentagon, but the military itself barat which
really in large part begain under Obama's surprise, surprise. It's
very very deep, coach, and I know Pete Hegseth is
doing great work so far. But there's a lot to
clean out there. How's the clean out going? You did

(18:31):
the best you could under Biden to fight for some
semblance of sanity, but there's a lot of work to do.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
Yeah, we fought back every day, and we saw it
and we've seen it coming.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
In terms of recruiting.

Speaker 8 (18:43):
All the dei woke social justice nonsense that they're pushing
on our young men and women that actually want to
fight for this country. There's a we've got to start
with leadership in the Pentagon and Pete Hegseth knows that,
and he's working very hard. We're trying to get his
people confirmed that are going to work under neath him.
He's going to need more help. He can't do it
by hisself. But again, it's just.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Something that's been sticking out out. There's been able to
see it.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
Nobody's fought back against it.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Finally, let's talk about Chinese farmland, Iranian farmland, North Korean
farmland right here.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
In the US of A.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
It's astounding to a lot of people that this is
something we allow at all.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But apparently you're trying to put a stop to this.
Oh yeah, it's called BLOB.

Speaker 8 (19:30):
That's it's a bill that we put out to just
try to educate people and understand what's going on. My
state of Alabama alone is number third in the country
of farmland. It's owned by foreign entities. Now it's not
just China, it's North Korea, Russia, a lot of other
people across the world have bought into our farmland. But
the thing about it is there's a land that are

(19:50):
very close to our bases, military bases all across the country,
and a lot of those are Chinese, so we got
to keep eye on this. And again, it's just if
you don't stop it when it first starts, then people
forget about it. He gets out of control, just like
all these other agencies, and you have huge problems at
the end of the day trying to get it back

(20:11):
in under control and back in the way we should
have it, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Coach, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
All right, chi cooms are mad at us already. I
know Steven Yates is going to be doing backflips about that.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
We'll talk to him about it next.

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let's talk about China because this is going to be
a subject because you might imagine that it's going to
be on our minds for the four years of the

(21:33):
Trump presidency. Apparently they are already upset with us. They
want Taiwan. Trump's challenging and be up terriff talk to
all this stuff is too confusing for me.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We better bring in Stephen Yates to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (21:44):
National security expert with the wonderful Heritage Foundation.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Always makes us a little bit smarter.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Okay, Steve, why are the chi coms mad at us already?

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Oh? Because they are who they are, is the short answer.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
But really, there is this really strange thing that I
think no normal American would ever pay attention to. And
that's a fact sheet on the State Department website where
it had some text on there that was edded by
someone we don't know that added a phrase that we
don't support Taiwan independence. It's something that galaxy brains in

(22:17):
the Beltway have bandied around for a long time. But
then that was deleted and put in place instead that
we oppose unilateral use of force or coercion. That coercion
word is getting after all the pressure tactics that China
has tried to put in place that looked like a
blockade or otherwise in recent times, and the Prime Minister

(22:38):
of Japan and Prime Minister of India have supported this
new language, so low behold. The State Department fact sheet
changed that too, and the mandarins in Beijing's puzzle palace
decided that was too far and they needed to warn
us against fanning the flames of Taiwan independence.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Okay, first of all, let's talk about the coersion they're doing.
It seems like every single morning you wake up and
you see some Chinese naval vessel is brushed up against
the fishing boat in Taiwan. What exactly are they doing
over there?

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Yeah, you're not wrong about that, And it's not just Taiwan.
They've got their fishing vessels or coastguard like vessels that
are blasting massive hoses at innocent bystanders who are in
their own sovereign waters in the Philippines, southern Japan. But yes,
there's aircraft that have been buzzing close to Taiwan's airspace.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
They've launched missiles.

Speaker 7 (23:32):
Over in landing zones that are not far from Taiwan,
and all these vessels keep approaching and encroaching. It's meant
to just sort of have slow simmering terror effect on
the people of Taiwan where they might beg for mercy
and take a bad deal. So far, they haven't reached
for that option. I don't think they will, but the

(23:53):
pressure continues. It violates rules and norms that Beijing, of
course laughingly says that it wants to uphold and the
international rules based order.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Okay, so we've talked about this before, you and I,
and it does get confusing because our policy seems to
be intentionally confusing when it comes to Taiwan. When they
stop doing or I should say, if God forbid, they stop.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Doing that, I'm not touching you. I'm not touching you
thing that like they're doing right now.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
What if they happen to start landing amphibious vehicles on
the shore, and we have a combined arms exercise where
the Chinese divisions are storming into Taiwan. What are we
going to do?

Speaker 7 (24:35):
Well, According to policy as we've had it for decades,
we should be arming them in a timely basis to
have an adequate self defense capability. Now, our supply chains
have not been what they should be, and our timelines
for manufacturing our way off and the beltweight bandits have
been pocketing billions, if not trillions of dollars to deliver

(24:56):
things late, and so deterrence isn't what it should be
on taime wwan one part. But our policy should be
that we've sold them enough that they have the capability
to deter that from happening, and then we would come
in after the initial move to try to support.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Now the United States, Japan.

Speaker 7 (25:14):
And maybe others are on the blocks to decide what
do we do on a quicker time horizon to intervene
or not, And so that I think is a very
different place. Americans are not hungry for another undefined entanglement.
I can completely understand that, and the Japanese have their

(25:36):
own national interests, which the Prime Minister made clear I
thought that helped with the President that it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Should not be the US standing alone.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
But we have got to get our house in order
when it comes to our defense supply chains, get them
strategically decoupled from China, for heaven's sake, and make sure
that we're delivering things on time that matter. And if
we're not able to help our allies do more, South
Korea and Japan and others can do a lot more
to fill this space. And that's better than it being

(26:03):
a binary thing between the US and China.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Steve, what are quote things that matter?

Speaker 2 (26:10):
I hate to nerd out on the details, but I
geek out.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
On things like this.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
How does an island like Taiwan, how can it possibly
defend itself against a juggernaut like China even to slow
it down?

Speaker 1 (26:21):
What are we talking about? Missile defense? What is it?

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well, there's a lot of things that would fill in
the blank, and they're better minds than mine that could
probably do a better job of filling in that blank.
But there's just some simple lessons learned from the Ukraine experience.
Land war is different than taking an island that's one
hundred miles off shore, but it's also an important reminder
that in many ways it's easier to defend and thwart
what's coming at you than it is to attack, secure

(26:46):
and control another territory. So all those things that are capabilities,
whether its surface to air, drones and other kinds of
vessels that are under sea, surface and air, that can
complicate things for China. But we shouldn't limit it to
just the things that people consider to be defensive. I mean,
if your life is being threatened, your livelihood's being threatened,

(27:08):
targets on the mainland should be fair game. And Taiwan
should be developing and is developing capabilities to strike the
mainland in ways that would make it so that there's
some pain to be felt if there's a kind of
an attack. But the US and allies should be doing
more in the financial services side of things too, to
make it clear that should this balloon go up, that

(27:30):
Chinese money will be seized anywhere in the international financial system,
that China's banks will be immediately insolvent, and the whole
host of measures that we have that really haven't been
put onto the table by the white glove diplomat talks
we've had for the last few decades.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Steve House panel just released a report on Chinese espionage,
documenting more than sixty ops twenty states of this country. Now,
spy lovers like me believe that's all James Bond stuff,
but of course that's not the case. What kind of
ops are these? What are they doing here?

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Oh, this is tip of the Iceberg stuff.

Speaker 7 (28:10):
Now, So, Jesse, if you've got an unlimited population, and
you've got a massive program to indoctrinate and train and
then deploy people to other countries and have them go
in as students and researchers or working in an investment
house or other seemingly innocuous things, and they can also
engage in community organization, and I think was Barack Obama's

(28:33):
euphemism for how communists organize to influence American politics. You'd
have groups that are in New York, LA, other major
cities that look like they're just celebrating their Chineseness, but
what they're really doing is tracking and harassing dissidents, soaking
up any gaps in open source information, which is to say,

(28:54):
people who might have access to sensitive information, they go
walk off their jobs. You make nice with them. They
spill the beans over a beer or a meal, or
give them a promise of a nice trip somewhere. That
all of these kinds of compromising efforts have been going
on for decades, but they've really picked up pace in
recent years. Some of them have been exposed, like in

(29:15):
New York the person who is really close to Governor
hokl and was based out of New York City. We've
had the driver for Diane Feinstein that was there for
twenty years, seemingly, but it's really amped up in recent years.
And we've just been very bad as Americans, and the
Chinese Communist Party is really good at saying, well, if

(29:36):
you go after me being a bad Communist spy, you're
really just racist. And Americans go ooh, I don't want
to be called that, so maybe I just let this
person compromise my institutions.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
How much of this.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Do you feel is American politicians possibly being in bed
with the Chinese. It's hard not to think about a
Chinese spy balloon that had American tech inside of it
starting in Alaska, the Biden administration finding out about it
and allowing it to simply traverse the entire country collect
all that data before they shoot it.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Down over the Atlantic.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
When I'm on the outside looking in at that Steve,
it looks to me like a president who's been compromised
by the communist Chinese.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
It just does.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Yeah, well, there's a huge quotion of this that I
put up there with ignorance and incompetence. But there is
definitely a segment of this that is compromised when you
start throwing around millions of dollars in private accounts for
family members. That is textbook compromise when you're working in
intelligence and counter intelligence, and so you don't get these

(30:40):
no show jobs or massive balloons in family accounts with
the expectation that you just want to send nice holiday
letters and go.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
To good receptions.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
It means when it matters, you're going to make something
easily available to me. And we don't have part evidence
on where that went into that stupid balloon situation. That
was a horrific humiliation that we allowed that to just
float over and spend millions of dollars to shoot in
the Atlantic. But that compromises a very very real part

(31:15):
of this. That's what the New York stuff was with
money close to politicians. There are several ethnic Chinese people. Again,
we're not ethnically profiling but the Communist Party sure does,
and they go and they bring donations to get access
and access to do what.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
This is a real effect in our system.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
We've got to get better at recognizing it and building
firewalls against it.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
All Right, finally, Steve, before I let you go, Russia Ukraine?

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Are we at the beginning of the end of all this?

Speaker 2 (31:45):
Trump administration appears to want to wrap this thing up.
I have no earthly idea how long wrapping it up
will take.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
But is this the beginning of the end? I believe
it is.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
There's a lot of momentum moving in that direction, although
I would not want to underestimate how hard it is
to stop these kinds of things. I mean, this has
been three years of a grinding war of attrition and
it's going to take a lot to have a verified
halt of hostilities. Figure out what happens with land that
was taken and or is there some kind of peacekeeping?

(32:18):
What are the Europeans going to do for other Europeans?
What other powers are going to do things? So the
United States is not everyone's first and most nine to
one one call for a bailout. I mean, there's still
a lot to work out but what the Trump administration
is doing is definitely not isolationism.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's like half the National Security.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
Cabinet is out there in the world in pursuit of
this piece.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Well, let's hope they get it done. Steve, thank you, brother,
appreciate it as always, all right, Apparently someone's leaking to
the news. That's Central Intelligence agencies flying drones over the cartels.
What's happening out there, what's happening in Mexico? Toad Bensman
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Speaker 2 (34:04):
Well, we live in the social media era, the information era,
I guess you could call it. And sometimes it's hard
to know. What are you supposed to know? What are
you supposed to believe? How many media leaks are supposed
to happen? How many are just some idiot and the
government running his mouth? Why are we sending reaper drones
over Mexico? Joining me now to talk about many of

(34:26):
these things. Todd Bensman, fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies,
love them very much, author of the book Overrun. Okay, Todd,
somebody told CNN that we're flying drones over the cartels
in Mexico. Is this one of those well we wanted
them to know? Or is this one of those? We
have a leaky ship in the Central Intelligence Agency, which

(34:48):
would be the least surprising things in the world.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
What is it?

Speaker 9 (34:52):
Well, I mean, I can't say for sure, but we
definitely know from at least the Mexicans who were complaining
about this briefly and saying, hey, listen to there. You know,
we didn't give them permission to be over our territory,
or that some of them were permitted but others were not.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (35:15):
So we do have the Mexicans talking about it, and
maybe they just want to start doing some We want
to start doing some psyops on the cartels, let them
know that, you know, we're coming after them in some way,
that they should start looking over a shoulder, maybe start
watching out for themselves and be nervous. And it's not

(35:36):
just the drones, the spy planes, but it's also you know,
the green berets. Just we're sitting down there to start
training Mexican naval infantry in unconventional warfare, and you know,
we're starting to put naval assets on the Gulf of America,

(35:57):
off the coast there for the first time. We're doing
a lot of things that we haven't done in a while.
It seems like we're setting the table for something. And
the context of that is Trump says we're going to
wipe them out, and they're using sort of hyperbolic language
about what we're going to do that.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
We're going to go kinetic. And that's the big context
to all.

Speaker 9 (36:19):
This, including troubling down on the CIA operations down there.
So that's a big Washington Post story out today.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Todd, talk to me about the Mexicans in the cartels,
because it's unsurprised and that we get a lot of
mixed messaging, as you just kind of pointed out from
the Mexican side of it. Now, we're looking forward to
working with this administration. We will not work with this administration.
We of course will smash the cartels. Hold on, we
never said we'd sign up for this exactly. Ex what

(36:50):
help can we expect from this government.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
Well, the Mexican government under Claudius shinebamb adapt to adopt
did the prior president's policy toward the cartel, which and
I'm not making this up, was hugs not bullets. In
other words, we're just going to let you operate, unless
occasionally it's inconvenient for us and we have to go

(37:15):
in and pick somebody up. But for the most part,
you're free to make as much money as you want.
We'll leave you alone if you leave us alone and
maybe pay us. But the Trump administration isn't down with that.
The Trump administration wants bullets, not hugs.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
And if the.

Speaker 9 (37:35):
Mexican government doesn't like that, you know, we put a
twenty five percent tariff in place with Trump's finger hovering
over that button if you don't, and that'll send them
into recession right away. So they're under the gun, so
to speak, the Mexican government to do what Trump to

(37:56):
change their own policy so that their economy doesn't suffer.
That's why you're getting yet this and then that, and
then this and then that, because they really don't want.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
To go up against the cartels.

Speaker 9 (38:08):
It's hard to do that, but we are going to
make them do it. We're coercing them into doing it.
And that's kind of what the problem is there, why
we're getting confusion.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Todd, how concerned are you, because you know a lot
more about this stuff than I do. How concerned are
you about what kind of an operation this would be?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
You know, the average American.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Understandably, I'm not insulting them, thinks the cartels are all
up in cartel headquarters at some fancy hacienda. And I've
seen clear and present angy. You just drop a bomb
on it and they're all dead.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Of course, but that is not how it works in
real life.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Very similar to other places we've been, they are ingrained
in many of these communities where they operate. They are
not in one central warehouse. Very scary looking. They're ingrained.
How do we uningrain them? For lack of a better term,
it's it's true.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
The cartels are what we call a wicked homeland security problem,
very very difficult to just simply destroy them militarily. Hundreds
of thousands of Mexicans work for the cartels in various
kind of roles. The economy is Mexican economy is dependent
on a lot of that drug trade and human smuggling trade.

(39:24):
That Sineloa cartel has sixty thousand employees by one report,
and so it's not going to be easy to just
wipe them out. And furthermore, under the administration of President
Philippe Calderon from two thousand and six through about twenty twelve,
they waged all out military war. They tried with everything

(39:48):
they had to wipe out those cartels, and they got
their butts kicked and withdrew and as a result, we
got hugs not bullets. As a policy. Two hundred thousand
Mexican dead. I think that the way this is going
to yeah, I think that the way this is going
to go down. And by the way, the drug smuggling
never stopped during any of that, so it's not that

(40:12):
is a wicked problem. I think that military action is
going to maybe suppress some things. It's going to you know,
it's maybe it might be better than nothing. Maybe the
cartels will give up fentanyl and as long as they
can keep sending the rest of the drugs over, maybe
just not fentanyl. That seems to be what the Americans

(40:34):
are worried about. I think that the way it'll play out,
if I have another second here, is kind of like
we'll use the Mexican army and military as our proxy
for any kinetic action, but they're going to have CIA support,
intell American military intelligence support, maybe weaponry, aircraft will be

(40:59):
behind the scene advisors, like in Columbia for years and
years where we backed a war against the FARC, which
was a major cocaine smuggling cartel down there. Ultimately it
was successful, but it took decades. So I think we'll
see if we see anything, it'll be something like that.

(41:20):
And one last thing, there is a possibility that if
there is kinetic action down there, I mean military action
by the Mexicans with US under US pressure, that the
cartels could attack us on our soil, on our side,
shoot at border patrol, take out some American military personnel

(41:42):
down there or something in retaliation. And in that case,
they're moving in some pretty serious military forces. The tenth
Mountain Division has just arrived, five hundred of them light
infantry in Fort Watchuka in Arizona.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (42:01):
That's a a we mean business outfit. Uh, fully armed
and equipped with all their their weaponry and spy planes
and everything else. So I think that's intended maybe to
deter any kind of attack on US soil.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yeah, the boys at the Tent Mountain are very very
serious individuals, that is for sure. So that jails you
we mean business. I've been to Fort Watchuka. Actually, Todd,
that was awesome. Come back soon, brother, we'll rooff.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
On this some more interesting. It's it's not gonna be clean. Okay.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
That's that was all I was trying to convey, and
I hope Todd brought that home with his expertise.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
It's not it's not easy. It's not clean.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
You know, you don't just send it, just sending the
seals to take them out. That's that's stuff from the movies.
We're talking large this a war. It would be a war.
It would be Afghanistan. Something to keep in mind. All right,
we have light in the mood, ext it is time

(43:11):
to lighten the mood. And I love watching communists embarrass themselves.
And Mark Hamill is one of those fascinating people where
everyone knows his face because everyone watched Star Wars. Everybody
has seen Star Wars. Nobody can name a single other
movie he's ever been in. Yet he's parlayed that popularity
from Star Wars into being the most obnoxious, outspoken, moronic

(43:35):
communists in Hollywood, which is actually saying something. So I
did enjoy this video quite a bit.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
So what makes us love cinema so much that we're
all gathered here to celebrate tonight? For me, it's that
films create world so vivid and stories so powerful that
we lose ourselves in them completely. They create immersive cinematic
landscapes that feel alive, whether they're set here in London
or anyways. That films create world so vivid and stories

(44:03):
so powerful that we lose ourselves in them completely. They
create immersive, cinematic landscapes that feel alive, whether they're set
here in London or anywhere.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
I just, I guess I don't understand how that can happen.
Haven't you've been in a place where your pants have
fallen down, your shorts have fallen down.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Maybe you've got your phone, your keys in there.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
You can feel you can feel it, right, you can
feel it before it happens. You can feel it. Our
camel can't feel it. Apparently the force was not with him.
I'll see it tomorrow
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