Hour 2: Peer Pressure

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on
a spectacular Thursday. We'll get to tariffs here in a second.
I'm gonna get to a bunch of emails. They're going
to be all over the place. Of warning you, it's
a big email clean up, round up thing to make

(00:31):
room for ask doctor Jesse Friday tomorrow. Jesse got Jesse
kellyshow dot com, by the way, And so before we
get to those one Trump dropped this little funny today
and he just really is genuinely.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
The only thing I totally admired about sleepy Joe Biden
is the following. He'd go to a beach, he'd lay
down in a cut, barely able to get his feet
through the sand. He'd lay down and within minutes he's
sleeping and you have cameras watching him. I could never
do that. I would never be like that. It's about
the only thing I think that was wonderful.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
It was a disaster.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
This man was a disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
So true, It's so true. Remember what it was like.
It almost seems like it was ancient history. I remember
what it was like when we had a president. That
was clearly not it's not okay.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
This, It wasn't okay. It was so it's not his age, really,
because everybody ages differently. To be honest with you, I'll
never see Joe Biden's age. I'll be dead before then.
Everyone ages differently, but very clearly in poor health. Look,
we have people in their nineties who listen to the
show very sharp, there're still moving. There are people like that.
My mom's side of the families like that. Everyone lives

(01:43):
for so long and they're sharp and they're great. My
dad's side of a family not so much. You're not
really gonna see seventy, right, it's not gonna happen. But
he was just in such a bad metal and physical state,
and we all just we had no choice. It wasn't
like there was anything you or I could do about it.
We all just kind of had to exist without a
president for four years.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
They would shoop him home every weekend and he would
just go pass out on the beach.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
And still maybe we should start a countdown, Chris, No
one's heard from him, have you? No? You just realized that,
didn't you. When's the last time you heard from him? Chris?
Chris said, he's working on his next big role. But
he's not working on anything. He's gone, just like that.

(02:29):
They whisked him away back to Delaware, and he's gone,
and I don't think you'll see him again. I don't
think you'll hear from him again. Until I was actually
talking to my son about this, we were he tried
to murder me the other day. I told him I
wanted to go for a ruck. So I grabbed my
weighted pack and took it on, and he was going

(02:51):
to walk Fred with me. He grabs Fred. Remember I've
gotten an extra I've got extra weight on my back. Well,
this is my oldest boy country kid. He could just
run till he's dead. He just takes off it practically
a sprint, and I've got a pack on my back,
and you know, I'm trying to tough it out like
a dad, and so I'm trying to keep up, trying

(03:12):
not to lose my breath, and he wants to talk
the whole time. So Dad, what's going on with Trump?
And what's going on with this? And finally ida to
be like, can you slow down? Anyway? We were talking
the other day about it. He said, Dad, where's Joe
Biden been. I said, son, he's gone. He said, well,
when do you think we're gonna hear from him again?
And I said, look, kid, i think it'll be the

(03:33):
day he dies. I'm obviously not rooting for that. It
just like I told James, could be tomorrow, could be
five years from now. You know when we're gonna hear
from him again. We're gonna wake up one day and
it will be the news. It'll be all over the news.
Former President Joe Biden, and more than anything, it points

(03:55):
to this was a man on the back end of
his life who wasn't a functional adult, and he was
the president of the United States of America, the most
important job. Look at whether you agree or disagree with
everything Trump is done. It's not realistic to think you'd
agree with all of it, because you're a human being
with a brain and you have different desires than no

(04:18):
two people are the same. But I think you would
agree he's done a lot. He's done a lot. Is
negotiating a peace deal, he's working on the border stuff,
he's tackling the economy. He's got all kinds of things
going on. And you see, he's famous for the fact
that he works nineteen twenty hours a day sometimes and

(04:38):
you know what's amazing, That's what it takes to do
the job of president of the United States of America.
It's not a part time job. It's not a job
where you can mail it in. It's not a job
where you can have bad days. Tonight, I've already told
you we're going to do a big email round up night.
News day's kind of slow. There's a bunch of great emails.
I think it'd be you don't get emails round up

(05:00):
day as president. We didn't have a president for four years.
Look at what it takes Donald Trump to do to
try to juggle all these things. Joe Biden couldn't even function.
I would I would venture a guess that if you
took Joe Biden and put him in a kitchen, that

(05:22):
he would be unable to prepare a meal for himself.
And he was president of the United States of America. Gosh,
talk about count your blessings on where we are now.
Before we get to the emails. White House promises big
tariffs on April second. I brought that up last hour.
I just want to remind you we might be in

(05:43):
for some bumpy moments. Some bumpy times economically. Other countries
have indicated if we raise ours, they're going to just
raise theirs, And then it becomes then it becomes a
game of chicken. And then what happens in tariff wars
is the same thing that happens in real wars. Then
one of the greatest enemies is something that nobody's been

(06:03):
able to conquer. Pride. We're pride for human beings. We're
not supposed to be, but we are. It's one of
our deadly sins, right. I know you're gonna be shocked
by this. I have pride too, what Chris, I'm serious,
I'm shocked. But then it becomes who backs down first,
and then that's a whole other thing. Whatever. Let's do

(06:24):
some emails historical oracle. The US has been accused of
being the American Empire. Don't empires usually demand tribute from
their conquered nations. Why does only the US sund money
out of the treasury? Is this a Marshall plan thing?
His name is Larry Okay, So we've talked about this before.

(06:45):
In fact, one of the more recent history episodes I
did was on our war in the Philippines. After the
Spanish American War. But I want to kind of just
drill down on at least one aspect of that story.
Is in America an empire. It depends on how you
look at it. If we're talking about me personally, I

(07:08):
think America is, and I like that. For a lot
of people, they don't want to be part of an empire.
Being an empire sounds like a big evil thing. I think.
I don't know how you can look at the United
States of America, look at how much influence we have
on the entire planet, look at our military footprint, footprint

(07:30):
across the globe, look at what we mean economically for
pretty much everyone else. I don't know how you can
look at the vastness, for lack of a better way
to put it, of America in our interests and call
us anything other than an empire. So we'll set that
aside for a moment. Let's just talk about that Philippine thing.

(07:51):
One of the reason I wanted to do that history
story and one of the reasons I found it to
be so fascinating. Maybe you missed it, So just here's
the thirty second recap. We beat the Spanish and the
Spanish American War. It was mainly fought in Cuba. At
the end of that war, we essentially, as part of
the peace deal, stroked them a check for the Philippines,
which the Spanish had been in charge of for a

(08:12):
long time, had been part of their empire, and then
we stepped in there and decided we wanted to make
it part of ours. But the Filipinos or prideful people,
what they fought a rebellion. It was a big, ugly affair. Okay,
so that's a thirty second point thirty second, you know,
recap of the whole thing. But the American people were

(08:37):
unsure then the same way they're unsure now of how
they felt about it. During all my time, I read
two or three books during this time, listened to as
many podcasts as I could, most of those were really garbage,
watched as much as I could find online. I really
try to hoover up as much info as I can

(08:58):
when I get ready to do history stuff. But there
was one thing consistently I noticed from the historical documents.
I'm talking newspapers and transcripts and things like that, the
American people themselves they were really uncomfortable with the whole thing.
They were uncomfortable with the American military going on to

(09:22):
foreign soil, like the Philippines. They when we weren't welcome there,
when the Filipinos didn't want us there, and saying to
those Filipino people, hey, this is ours, we're staying. The
American people, you can argue this is a little hypocritical,
because we did conquer America. We did, we conquered it

(09:43):
from the Indians. But the American people don't like to
see themselves as conquerors. And that's not shared that's not
a shared human thing. Remember, there are countries across the
globe today who want to be conquerors. Yeah, you got
to conqueror Remember Vladimir Putin is not unpopular in Russia.

(10:04):
In fact, the war in Ukraine, it's not unpopular in Russia.
It's not We Americans don't like to see ourselves that way.
We like to see ourselves as being better than that,
above that. And I think you could argue, or at
least I would argue. I like that we have that

(10:24):
debate about things like that. I like that we are
not just sheep going whichever way the government wants us
to go. That we the people, we will argue with
each other. Is this right? Is this wrong? Do we
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Speaker 1 (11:56):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday.
Remember you can email your ass doctor Jesse questions in
right now to Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Also,
remember that the average American communist, the average American Democrat,
lives in a world entirely of make believe, a world

(12:18):
that has been created for them by Democrat politicians and
members of the media. And shockingly, in this day and
age where everything is on audio, everything is on video,
that communists your liberal and Peggy will believe things that
you can pull up a video of and show her
orli and yet the communists won't never stop. Chuck Schumer

(12:41):
is still out there today saying this.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
When in Charlottesville, when they rioted against the Jews and
wanted to harass or even burn down a temple, he said,
both sides have merit.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's not what he said, and the point's been made
a bunch by me and others. What Donald Trump actually said,
It's not hard to find. It's on cameras.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
I do think there's blame, Yes, I think there's blame
on both sides. You look at you look at both sides.
I think there's blame on both sides, and I have
no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt
about it either. And you had some very bad people
in that group, but you also had people that were
very fine people on both sides.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's what he actually said. But your liberal and Peggy
doesn't know, because unless you break out of the bubble,
unless you break out of the communist bubble, you have
no idea. Dear Jesse, I've often heard and read the
phrase peer pressure, typically applied to young people such as
middle and high school students, but peer pressure group think

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is another name for it is a constant in human affairs,
and it's not limited to youngsters. Ordinary men named after
the book are the norm. Exceptions are in effect heroes.
Courage has rightly been called an essential value, so on
and so forth. God bless you, but you set the
bar high. I think most of us succumb to peer pressure.

(14:09):
His name is John Okay, so I thought this was
I thought this was important to discuss actually on a
broader scale, because what he said is something we don't
like to acknowledge, and we definitely don't like to think
of it. We don't like to think of ourselves in
this way. When you look back, or even modern day,

(14:32):
modern day, or you look back historically and you look
at an evil group of people who did evil things,
you me, we might lie to ourselves. We lie to ourselves,
and that we look back and we convince ourselves that

(14:54):
we would have been different, that we would have fought
against that culture, that we would have fought against that
level of propaganda. I would have never been fill in
the blank, pick whatever historical monster you can think of.
I would never have been part of Mao's Red Guard
in China. I wouldn't have taken part of the Cultural Revolution.

(15:15):
I would never have been a Nazi. I would never
have done this. I would never have done that. I
would never have Well, here's the truth. Here's a mirror
for you. Here's a test for you. And you may
not like the results, but we're going to talk about
that in a moment. We have been, we have been

(15:36):
part of large evil propaganda efforts modern day. You have
been and I have been. We've been part of it.
How did you react? How did you react during COVID?
You don't have to tell me again. This is not
a struggle session where you have to feel bad about yourself.

(15:58):
How did you react when they told you everyone was
going to die wear a mask six feet away? Were
you spraying cleaning supplies on your groceries when you got home?
How did you we got somebody wrote in last night.
I read the email. We was very honest. How did
you react when George Floyd died and the American propaganda

(16:19):
machine got turned into overdrive convincing everybody that black people
were being slaughtered in mass by cops in the country
and America is still evil? And how did you react?
Were you on Facebook? I just want to say that
I don't like it that anybody's being treated liked it?
How did you react? Well, we don't like to acknowledge it,

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but if that's how you reacted under the weight of
that kind of pressure, not just pressure from the government,
pressure from the media, pressure from the education system, pressure
from your friends, pressure from your job, pressure from your neighbor.
If you got caught up in that, than when Mao

(17:04):
was telling all those people to go find a teacher
and beat them to death, you would have been part
of the crowd. We love to imagine that we wouldn't have.
But the truth is lots of people, unless they train
themselves against this, are followers and will follow people into very,

(17:29):
very very dark places. In fact, the communist banks on it.
He banks on the fact that he's not going to
reach everybody, but he's most definitely going to reach enough
people that the ones he can't reach will be too
afraid to buck the system, so they'll lower their head,

(17:49):
they'll put on the black pajamas, and they'll go dig
up Confucius's grave. That's what the communist banks on. And
give you another example in a moment, Maybe let me
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(18:53):
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(19:14):
example of this. We'll dunk on the comedies with it,
and then we'll move on. Hang on what Chris, we
can make jokes. It's fine, you get that right. The
Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. As we do kind of a
schmortgage board email roundup today of all kinds of things
talking about peer pressure and do you succumb to what

(19:37):
the group says versus do you fight against it? And
I brought up you know, people don't like to think
about this, but here's the truth, and this is really
going to hit the communist hate listeners hard Nazis, Communist love,
or the American communist loves to call you a Nazi.
Everybody's a Nazi, Nazi, this, Nazi that. But let's set
aside the ridiculous modern caricatures of it and talk about

(19:59):
actual Nazism. I know quite a bit about the history.
I know how it got started. I know that once
they started to achieve power, it wasn't just that they
started marching through the streets beating up Jews. It was

(20:21):
that they slowly but surely took over critical things like
the newspapers, like the police department, like various other parts
of your society. And once they took those parts of
your society over, then the society spoke with one voice,
one voice at all times, and that one voice eventually

(20:44):
became what we know as Nazi Germany, with you know,
the death camps and all that other crap. But why
did so many Germans either cheer for it or in
the very least go along with it. People always ask
that question. What they do is they dumbed down the
explanation Why Germans are all evil? Well, that's ridiculous, that's

(21:04):
not true. Why did so many Germans go along with it?
I remember I was reading about this guy. In fact,
they had a picture of him up in a museum.
I was looking at that. There was this Jewish German
and he was a hero of World War One. We're
talking medals and stuff like that. And he had a shop,
I want to say a bread shop, but don't quote
me on that. He had a shop that he owned,

(21:27):
and he eventually was run out of that shop with
the consent of the community. Of course, they put the
Star David and all that crap on there and then
they ran him out of the shop. So why did
so many people go along with that? Well, because that's
what government said, and that's what the media said, and
that's what their friends said. And if Facebook existed back then,

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that would be the Facebook thing. And so what most
people do is, no matter what they individually think about it,
they go along with what the government and the media
and their friends say. So, you communists who hate listen
to the show always screaming about Nazi this and Nazi that.
What'd you do and say during COVID, During COVID, did

(22:13):
you buck what the government said? Did you fight against it?
During COVID? Did you fight against what the media said,
or did you do everything you were told by the
government and the media. Well, I've I've got some terrible

(22:35):
news for you. You would have had a swastika on
your arm. I'm sorry. I see this all the time
when it comes to the Civil War. Everyone loves to
argue about the Civil War, which cracks me up. And
I love the Civil War. As you know, all these people, oh,
the slave owners in the South, and then when you
point out the fact that ninety nine percent of the

(22:55):
South weren't slave owners, well yeah, but they shouldn't have
fought for keep slavery. Okay. Do you do what your
government tells you to? Do you do what your neighbors say,
what your friends say?

Speaker 2 (23:09):
Do you.

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Follow all the societal pressures that push you in one way? Nowadays? Well, congratulations,
If you do, then you would have been a Johnny
reb during the Civil War.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
So are.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Leaders are rare. And it's hard. It's hard to think
for yourself, and it's hard by design. When friends and
family and neighbors and government and media, and when it
feels like every force around you is pushing you in
one direction. The easiest thing to do is not to
dig in, just let go, let the waves take you

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if you will. After all, everyone's doing it. That's the
easy thing. You know what kind of person you are.
And remember I brought up this dressed test of COVID
and George Floyd. If if you look back on how
you acted and maybe you're not proud, maybe you're not

(24:11):
thrilled about it. Maybe just maybe you'll do better the
next time. You know that, because everybody learns at their
own pace. Don't look at somebody who's a leader who
stands up the things and say to yourself, Wow, I
wish I was born like that guy. He's just got
stronger stuff than I never had. Whoever, whatever person you

(24:31):
look at as somebody who's strong enough to be a
leader to stand up with it, maybe you look at
me that way. Maybe you look at me that way.
You think I haven't gone along with the crowd at
times in my life. You think I haven't looked around
and taken the easy way out at times in my life. Well,
everyone's saying it, everyone's doing it. I guess I might do.
At one point in time, I frosted the tips of
my hair blonde because everybody else was doing it. In

(24:53):
high school. I know, Chris, I really hope none of
those pictures are out there. It was a really bad look.
But look, I realized that's less serious. But I've all
of the crowded serious ways, too bad ways. If you
screwed up, fine forgive yourself move on. Also, Chuck Schumer's
in very deep trouble. So Chuck Schumer's going on the
news trying to lay out his resume of how he

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protected communism in this car.

Speaker 4 (25:16):
Democracy is at risk because Donald Trump shows that he
wishes to violate the laws in many, many different ways.
The good news here is we did put two hundred
and thirty five judges, progressive judges, judges not under the
control of Trump last year on the bench, and they
are ruling against Trump time after time after time.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
He's not shying away from it. That is once again
Chuck Schumer trying to protect his leadership position. That's him
handing out his resume. Oh you're mad at me about
the cr I got that. All these judges that are
stopping Trump, I'm the one who gave you that. They
don't hide from what they're doing. They brag about what
they're doing. Have you seen, by the way, have you

(25:59):
seen anything about these town halls where Republicans are getting
yelled at. Harriet Hageman's one of the great congress people.
She's out of Wyoming. She's a wonderful human being, and
there's video of her getting screamed at and booed in
a town hall. Remember, none of what you see is real,

(26:20):
paid for, manufactured, funded Communist activism has always worked this way.
The frigging East Germans used to do this in West Germany.
They'd fund protests and things like that. In West Germany,
communists will fund riots, they will fund protests. None of
it's real. Chuck Schumer, in an effort to get his

(26:41):
resume out there, admitted that too.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
We are mobilizing in New York. We have people going
to the Republican districts and going after these Republicans who
are voting for this and forcing them to either face
change their vote or face the consequences. This is It's
a long, relentless fight that we fight every day. And

(27:03):
I am confident that we will bring Trump's popularity numbers
and strength down if we keep at it, and keep
at it, and keep at.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
It bragging about Hey, all these people with the protests
you see Oh, those are our people. We're sending them
out there. Jesse, you grew up in Montana and you
are a hunter, specifically elk. We are heading home from
another elk hunt in Colorado today listening to you, and
I need to know how to get within bow range

(27:32):
of a massive herd and stick and arrow in it.
This seems nearly impossible. I know that this is something
you would never be able to accomplish, but you may
have friends or family members that have told you how
to do it correctly. Please share any knowledge you may
have learned, and says his name is Blake, Well Blake
for your information. I do know a little something about

(27:54):
elk hunting, not as much bow hunting. That was more
my dad's than me. Frankly, I think I was too
skinny to actually pull back a compound bow that had
any kind of a test on it. But yes, I
do know how to get close to a bull elk.
In fact, i'll tell you a little tale about that
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I am sorry. I am a little bit late getting
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believe I I have something breaking for you. We'll bring
it to you about ten minutes from now. But about
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(30:08):
but I want to finish. We're going back to some
emails and other things because it's kind of a pot
Parrie type of a day. Does that make sense, Chris
pot Purri. I always thought it was pot Pari, but
then my mom yelled at me, and my dad said
I needed to go back to school. And they said
a lot of very unkind things is all there is
to it now. Elk hunting, you know, we used to

(30:29):
when I was a kid in Montana. We used to
go We used to ride horseback into the mountains, and man,
there are just few things that make you feel more
like a man than packing some horses and some mules
and hopping on one with some weapons and riding into
the mountains. You're just immediately in that moment, you're John

(30:51):
Wayne going to hunt some outlaws. Even though you're going
to hunt some milk, and my dad was actually bow
hunting on this trip, I was not. I just wanted
to be along on the trip because I wasn't strong
enough to pull the bow back yet. I was young,
I was twelve or thirteen. You can get a bow
back on a smaller animal, and elk, you've really got

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to get it moving out there. So I wasn't quite
big enough yet. But I just love being in the
mountains and I just wanted to impress my dad as
a young boy. Look as a man, you lived to
impress your dad, you just do so. When you're elk hunting,
when you're bow hunting, you have to get a lot
closer than you do with a rifle, and you have

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to bugle the elk. In part of the reason my
dad brought me along was there was and I'm sure
they have better contraptions in this today. Maybe it's the
same ones. I don't really hunt anymore. But it was
a long black tube, almost almost like when you could
collapse and expand. In fact, I believe I could collapse

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and expand. It like a black tube that kind of
looked almost like a spring on me. It was all enclosed,
you understand what I mean, and you could put it
up to your mouth, and guys would work on this forever,
and some guys even had little I believe they were
wooden or plastic pieces they put in your mouth. Anyway,
you put it up to your mouth, and if you
worked on it long enough, you could make the sound

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of an elk. And you could really really make the
sound of an elk. Now, the idea when you're bow
hunting an elk is you bugle them in. You find
a way to get them in, you, into you, but
they're coming to attack you. The idea is that's a bull.

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It's a male elk. They call them a bull. The bull.
The females are called cows. The bull elk the male
he's coming to fight with another male because it's it's
it's mating season, for lack of a better way to
put it, you know, just like the way we're always
general well not always generally works in nature, where the
big males will fight the other big males, and no

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reason they do all this fighting is the prize is
the ladies at the end. That's the idea. Now, my
old man, it was just he was just a different
cat and he believed in being tough and independent, and
in a lot of ways he didn't give you the
opportunity to be a woos. He would just now we're

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talking the mountains of Montana. There's no roads, there's no highways,
there's no cell phones. Remember, there's nothing at this nothing.
I was twelve or thirteen years old. He took me
down to the base of a mountain with a bugle
in my hands, because the idea was to bugle in
an elk, and he was going to go to a
different place. And twelve thirteen, he just left me there

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middle of the mountains. You get lost up to you
get back to camp, figure it out. You know where
camp is. You get scared too bad, so sad, you
get cold, move your feet, move your fingers. I don't
want to hear any whining. And he would just drop
you and leave you and goodbye. And he did this
to me one time. We'd ridden into the mountains and

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an elk. If you're out west, you already know this.
I've never experienced it. Elk are not deer. They are enormous.
In a bull elk, it is unbelievably scary and beig.
You don't think so because it's not considered a predator
unbelievably intimidating. You think that's intimidating, try it as a

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skinny twelve or thirteen year old who happened to be
really good at bugling. That's half the reason my dad
brought me along. I could do it really well. I
bugled in a monster and I'm in the bottom of
this ravine, but it's all wooded where I am as wooded,
going up to the other side as wooded, and I'm

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kind of buried into a bush. Because these things look
they're used to being hunted by other animals, and God
gave them the equipment to sniff that stuff out, to
figure it out, try to stay alive. You understand how
it works. So I'm sitting there and I'm as hidden
as I can be, and I'm bugling this thing in.
It was like I wish, I wish I could have
recorded it. It's one of those things that if I

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could go back in life I get a recording of it,
I would pay. I would pay. I would pay all
of Chris's money for a recording of this whole thing.
From the other side up the hill, on the other
side of the ravine. Remember I'm in the bottom of it.
I just hear things start crashing, smashing, because when a
bull is coming in, he's trying to intimidate the bull

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he's coming after, so he's not trying to tiptoe. He's
trying to make himself sound as big and scary as
humanly possible. And he'll put his rack, his antlers, it's
called a rack on it. Now. He'll put his rack
against trees and bash it and rub it, and he'll
smash down bushes. I'm sitting at the bottom of this thing,

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and I have bugled, and this thing slowly but surely
starts crashing its weight down the mountain towards me. At
one point in time, I stopped all bugling, and I
decided that I no longer wanted to be found, and
I was too afraid to even move, and I just
kind of sat there, just praying, please God, let this

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thing just pass me by. As he got closer and
closer and closer, and you know the craziest part of
this whole thing is he stopped fifty feet away from me,
and all I could see were glimpses of him through
the trees. And look, this may be exaggerated in my

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mind because I was so afraid. In my mind, this
was the biggest Delk god ever created in my life.
He looked like some kind of a medieval some kind
of a prehistoric monster coming through to murder me. But
eventually he stopped, and I don't know whether he winded
wind to me or something, but turned around and took off.
I have never run back to Elk camp as fast

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as I ran back to Elk Camp in that exact moment.
That's my Elk story. Let's get back to some politics,
shall we. Let's get to this mayor what a scumbag
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