October 31, 2024 • 37 mins
Anti-communist James Lindsay tells us exactly how journalists think of themselves. The two things you must take to take over a country. Why do the commies love to divide people. Who has even worse than Mao? Why Democrats are pushing people like feminized men like Doug Emhoff and Tim Walz as the peak of masculinity. Another trillion-dollar green energy boondoggle.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
This is a Jesse Kelly show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show, and
what an hour we have for you. You want to learn
a little bit more about Mao, Mao's relationship with Stalin,
other things about communism, the race, Marxism in schools. James
(00:32):
Lindsey's gonna join us about a half hour from now,
and it's gonna be fascinating. We'll do some emails. Some
Chinese student Michigan is voting a lot of times and
he doesn't belong here. All that and more coming up
this hour on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Let's
get to this one AOC. You know, she and Doug
m Hoff, they decided to play They decided to play
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nice with each other. Doug m Hoff is around trying
to butcher up, if you will. Doug has had a
rough run of it in the press lately because it
came out that he knocked up his nanny and then
knocked around his girlfriend when he caught her flirting with
another guy. So Doug m Hoff is not exactly anyone's
idea of a man. You find yourself beating women, you're
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a piece of trash. But that's who he is. So
why would AOC this is from Breitbart, why would she
gush over him as the ideal man brimming with masculinity,
because in a lot of ways, for her and for
the communist he is, he is the ideal man. And
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so they take an end goal and they walk back
from there and try to convince you it's what you
should be. What is? What do they want? What's something
an American communist would want? Well, they want they need
effeminate men. That's what they need. They need a bunch
of well.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, I don't even know how to tie my shoes.
I guess I better bow down to my wife. Women
really should run everything. We men are too stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Har har hard.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's really what they want. Why do they want that?
So the communists can run everything? So they have to
find a way to sell that to you. And that's
why they roll out dimes like AOC to appeal to
young men. It's not an accident. AOC is the one
they've had playing football with Tim Walls. It's not an accident.
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AOC's the one gushing over Doug m Hoff. They found
the one hot chick they had in Congress, and they
threw some lipstick on her and they rolled her out
there as an appeal to young men, hoping young men
will look, oh there's AOC. Oh I wouldn't mind taking
AOC out on a date. Oh, AOC, says Doug. Doug
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m Hoff is the ideal man. Maybe I should feminize
myself a little bit more and in a roundabout way.
That's how you sell feminism to dudes. And don't think
that this now and this, this particular, this particular instance
of this might not be effective. But overall, beautiful women
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selling things to men is the most effective thing in
the world, absolutely in the world. I remember I used
to sell r vs toty this. I used to sell
our v's and every now and then we would have
to go to some huge convention center. We had them
here in Houston, we had them up in Dallas. There'd
be a big RV show. And at an RV show,
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a bunch of different RV dealers would bring in, you know,
a few RVs. You'd have a special section of the
convention center and then you knock down your prices and
it's a big sale, right, And they're fun for people.
People show up, walk through RV's. Maybe you're looking for one,
looking for a deal. Anyway you get you get the idea.
Even if you haven't been there, you get the idea.
It's a huge convention for RV's all over the place,
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different RV dealerships. I remember the first one we went to.
I think it was actually in Fort Worth, Texas, if
I remember right, don't quote me on that. I think
it was in Fort Worth, Texas. We were You know,
you're always competing. We're dudes. We compete. That's good. That's
competition is a good thing. We're competing with all the
other dealers. We want to sell more, get more customers,
and so you're always sending guys out, do we have
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more customers than them? How many sales did they have?
How many? You're always wanting to compete, And we were
pretty good. We were very aggressive. We were pretty good.
We like to knock down the prices and get sales done.
We were doing it well. And this one dealership, though,
they weren't even selling RBS that we thought were equivalent
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to ours. And I'm not just saying that because I'm
being a homer. I would tell you if I thought
they were as nice or not. But they were kind
of knockoffs and weren't that great. But they had to
sales board up. You can see because you have a
behind the curtain area where you go in and do
your paperwork and stuff. They had a sales board up
behind there. And after day two or three, I don't remember.
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I think it was day two, but I don't want to.
Don't quote me on that. After day two or three,
somebody got a look at their sales board and he
snapped the picture of it with this phone. They had
sold double as many RBS as us double and we
were second and third place was a mile away. We
thought we had it in the bag. We thought we
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had it in the bag. And he came running back
and told us all. I was a sales manager at
the time, Hey, Jesse, look at this. These guys are
killing us. And of course immediately I'm angry, and then
I'm trying to figure out what, how, how did they
do that? So I sent a runner over there, Hey,
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go see what they're doing. Did they have some superstar
salesman or something like that. No, they had hot chicks.
They went to local It was a Hooters. They went
to a local Hooters. And know they weren't they didn't
wear the Hooters' uniforms, but they grabbed three or four
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young ladies, good looking young ladies, and had them wear
shorts and a little tank top. Nothing, nothing inappropriate for kids,
because that would end up turning customers off. But certainly
they weren't dressed up like they were in Saudi Arabia,
and they were walking around with signs, Hey, do you
want a free cousy, Hey, come look at these. You
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could hardly walk in their RV area because there were
so many people in there. Beautiful women sell things to men,
always have, always will. If you're listening to the sound
of my voice and you've ever been to a gun show,
Safari Club you ever heard of the Safari Club. Safari
Club is this huge, huge, huge They have them all
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over the place, hunting and fishing and hunting gear and
those kinds of things. It's a big expo. You walk
into any big Safari Club exhibit, you will run across
a group of gorgeous young women trying to sell you.
Oh hey, look at our hunts in Africa. Maybe, just
maybe I'll be there. Of course she's not going to
be there, right Ooh hey, come buy some binoculars from me.
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I'm Tiffany. I've ruined ten guys' lives. Do you want
to be eleven? That's how's how they sell. And then
you get AOC out there trying to sell Doug m
Hoff as the man brimming with masculinity. There's a reason
for it. Gentlemen, don't fall for it, all right, Don't
do it, fellas, don't do it. Jesse Kelly Pta or PhD.
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I had an interview with this week from a career
for a career change in HVAC. This economy forced me
into it. I'm trying to make the best of it.
I tried to remember one thing. Shut up. It worked.
We spent the first thirty minutes talking shop in particulars
until we got onto the topics of bourbon, cigars, golf,
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church and family. We spoke for an hour and a
half and it went well. Listen, I've told you this before.
I know it's not a politics thing. We'll get back
to politics in a moment. Talk about some greeny give
outs and talk about this Chinese kid voting a bunch
in Michigan and things like that. But just a little
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life tip in case you're interviewing for a job about
to interview for a job. When you interview for a job,
you get nervous. You're nervous. Obviously you want the job,
that's why you're sitting in there. Maybe you even need
the job. I got to have this job. And when
you sit down for a job interview, because you're nervous,
because you want the job, what do you do? You talk?
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You sit down. Maybe you've memorized your resume or rehearse
some answers, or maybe you've really researched the company you're
applying for, and you're so anxious to get all this
knowledge out, and you're so anxious to do all that
that you see down and you run your freakin' mouth.
You don't have any idea what the guy interviewing you
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or lady interviewing you wants to talk about. I've been
in interviews before, hour long interviews, and I was never
asked a single thing about the particulars of the job
I was applying for. They wanted to talk about football
or kids, or hey, did you catch the game last night,
or the weather or whatever. The art of a job
interview is shutting up and listening. Shut up and listen,
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listen to what they are saying what they're asking about,
what they want to talk about. The interview is not
about you, it's about them. And that manager may have
had their dog throwing up that morning, They've got trouble
at the house, and maybe they want to talk to
you about all their dog problems. And I know that
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doesn't make sense and it shouldn't be that way, but
that's life. You got an interview of any kind, not
just job of any kind. Shut up and listen, listen,
let your ears guide you, and you will find success.
All right, let's talk about the newest green giveaway all
this climate change scam stuff? What a huge scam? Are
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you commies who listen? You're gonna hate this next segment,
absolutely despise it because you're gonna find out how stupid
you are. Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. I like
it returns next. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Thursday. Reminding you that tomorrow is an ask doctor
Jesse Friday, and you need to get your questions emailed
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in right now to Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. You
can leave them by voicemail eight seven seven three seven
seven four three seven three and until I lose my
temper and cut them off. We will be taking phone
calls with ask doctor Jesse questions tomorrow night. It's not
gonna be too Chris. I'm gonna last longer than two.
(11:01):
You know what, Chris, you blame me for when I
get angry and I cut off calls and stuff like that.
Why do you never blame them. I'm the one enforcing
some very basic rules here, some very basic rules. You
want a successful phone call, you got to sound like
this guy.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You better pack and get the f out of town.
That's what you should do. Bud, you're out of time. Belly,
who's already here?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Don't sound like that guy. Just make sure you get
right to the point. Anyway. Speaking of voicemails, my name
is Kelly.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Regarding birthright citizenship, I have said for years that needs
to go away. As far as mass deportation, yes, I'm
a woman, Yes I have feelings, and yes I am
absolutely for mass deportation. It will not bother me because
my heart is hardened to what has happened to our
country because of this invasion. So my advice to other
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women is when people are crying and little kids are crying,
and it shows up on social don't even look them
in the face, because we need our country back. I
love where I live and I want my country back.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I like that woman. I don't know who she is,
but I like her. That's awesome, all right now, this
is from the Free Beacon Biden Harris program, meant to
greenify low income homes, is mismanaged and vulnerable to fraud.
The Inspector General warns, I want to once again explain
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this to everybody, mainly the commies because I know you
already know, but all the comedies who hate listen to
the show Jesse, I hate you, hope you die. All
that stuff said this and this is for you, especially
you greenies. I want you to hear me here. I
am not going to argue climate change with you. That's
not what I'm about to do, so don't worry. I'm
not going to do that. We totally disagree on that.
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I think you're an insane lunatic who's taken something found
everywhere in nature, carbon, you decided it was a pollutant,
and now you want to destroy the greatest economy on
the planet by trying to regulate it. Think you're insane,
and you think I'm insane, and that's fine, but set
that aside. They're not talking about you when we're not
talking about me. I'm here to tell you that the
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people who sell this stuff to you, the Biden's, the
Bill Gates's, the name, you name it, the academia, the
people who sell you on man married climate change, not
only do they not believe it at all. They don't
believe it. They know you're an idiot, so you'll believe it,
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but they don't believe it. That's why they're all on
mansions on the beach. That's why they're all on private jets.
Not only do those people not believe it, it's just
a scheme so they can get rich you want. You
do understand that all the climate change crap, it's a
gigantic scam to bloodsuck more money and power from you
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and put it into their bank accounts. In fact, that's
what all of you street communists need to understand and accept.
And I know your street animals, and I know you're
mentally ill, and I know your little demons, and so
it's hard to accept what I'm saying is true. The
people who sell you this stuff, who pay you that paycheck,
you get for burning down a pro life pregnancy center.
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The people who are behind all this, none of them
believe in any of the things they tell you to
believe in. None of them do it. All this is a.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Huge scheme so evil people in power can get more
money and more power. Every going green program, every single
one that has ever been devised, has always lined the
pockets of some filthy, rich, powerful democrat. Every single one
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has done it. They sell you on man marid climate change,
and they pass another trillion dollar bill. We just have
no choice. We have to buy nothing but sol panels
and windmills. If we don't, people will die.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And if you took five seconds to look into it,
you'd know that Congressman Jerkwater who sold you that on
that plan whatever that law, happens to be his wife's
sister's brother, just happens to be a major stakeholder in
this solar panel company and that windmill company, and his
family fortune just grew by twenty five percent with a
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passage of one bill, and you paid for it, your
taxes paid for it. He took your taxes from your wallet,
selling you that he was gonna stop the ryse of
the oceans or whatever other dumb crap they sell you
because you're a moron. He took the money out of
your pocket and he put it into his pocket. Now
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he has more money, more power. You have less money,
less power, your poorer, and he doesn't believe any of it.
It's all a big it's all a big scam. Remember
the people who lead the West, the people who lead
America most definitely, you need to think of them as
if they're a gang of bank robbers, because that's really
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what they are. They all got together, decided they could
really loot the bank vault if they started working together.
And everything they do, everything, it's all aimed towards looting
that bank vault and hiding what they're doing from you.
So they sell you on all these little things. They
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get you worked up in a big demonic frenzy all
the time. Oh my gosh, I need to have an abortion,
Oh my gosh, man made climate change? If if every
little cause, oh, racism, all this other stuff, it's all
designed to distract you and hoover up more money and
power for them. Stop being a useful idiot, all right,
(16:56):
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Speaker 1 (18:16):
Jewish producer Chris replaced the wrong one. Now, anyway, go
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at Chris, hang on what Chris? We can make jokes.
It's fine, you get that right. The Jesse Kelly Show.
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. Gatst
it up for an election. I'm all kinds of fired
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up right now, even though I'm a who knows. Every
time I get fired up for one of these things,
I end up being disappointed. Maybe it's maybe it's a
me problem. I wonder what James thinks joining me now,
founder of the New Discourses podcast. I read all of
his stuff. Dude knows more about comedies than probably anybody
I know, my friend James Lindsay. James. Every time I
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get excited for it, every time I convinced myself it's
gonna go really well, we go down in flames. Is
it a me problem?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah? If it is, it's a me problem too. I
have the same problem exactly. Every time I get all
worked up and think I've got this, Everything's going the
way I hope it's going, Man, it turns out sour.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, Let's let's discuss these people's mentality. Because I played
this earlier. I know you've already seen this, but this
CNN reporter mad about the Donald Trump the trash the
garbage truck thing, which was freaking brilliant, by the way,
but well here's.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You was Oh Wolf, My analysis is exactly what we
talked about before. They are trying to milk this for
every single drop that they can.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
They want this to turn into.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
What happened in twenty sixteen when Hillary Clinton said that
Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables. I cannot stress
enough how we have spent the last three days, which
has been reiterating going over these racist file remarks that
we heard in the pre programming leading up to Donald
Trump taking the stage. We have talked about how Puerto
Rican is up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
They really do see themselves as warriors for the revolution,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Oh yeah, that's exactly what they're And the classic saying
is goes to David Horowitz, is that the issue is
never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. So
what they're doing is they're ginning up pretexts to complain
so that they can just keep pushing their agenda. Nobody
cares about a freaking joke about Puerto Rico, who everybody
knows that has a real garbage problem. Everybody knows first
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of all, also that Trump didn't say it or even
necessarily thinktion it, just because it happened. But they've got
to use that as a set and setting to come
along because Joe Biden ran his mouth and called half
a country, or probably more than half the country at
this twenty seventy percent of the country garbage. And yeah,
it is a deplorables moment. These people think they're better.
We'll talk about their mentality. They think they're better than
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everybody else. They think that everybody who doesn't agree with
them is garbage. Mal Zadong said, to not have a
correct political orientation is like not having a soul. And
these people are maoists. They hit the exact same attitude.
And so yeah, we're standing up. We're taking that label
and throwing it back at them. Trump did it brilliantly,
showing up in arms truck and wearing the orange vest
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for his rally last night in Wisconsin. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
James explain why they are in love with the whole
Nazi thing. Every every Republican's Nazi hitler, Nazi Hitler Nazi hitler,
which of course the people freak out about on our side,
we're not anything like that. But that's not the point,
is it. That's not why they say it.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No, it's not the point at all. This is actually
a political warfare tactic where what you do is you
label your enemy and something ridiculous and something awful and
something that scares the crap out of the lowest information
part of your low information base. So like a word
like Nazi, and they you know, they label this, and
the goal is to get the argument to be, well,
are you Nazi? Or how are you kind of Nazi?
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Or how do you match the Nazis? The goal is
to get people arguing, yes, you are, No, you're not, well,
you're kind of well a little bit. What you need
to be doing instead is saying that you are trying
to set us up and you need to step back
and instead of engaging in this stupid fake argument that
they druck that makes it a big issue. You have
to just call them out and say you're trying to
do this for other reasons. You're trying to bait us
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into this argument so you can label some people, or
so somebody will say something stupid on the internet, you'll
hold up in a New York Times article, or you're
setting this up for some kind of a future pretext,
you know, to say, well, you know, we've put out
this whole narrative that they're Nazis and there's all this
Nazi stuff, and so now we can't certify Trump even
though we got elected. So some kind of BS operation
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is being put forth with this. It's not legitimate. Again,
the issue is never the issue. The issue is always
the revolution. So they just put out fake stuff to
advance their agenda.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Speaking with James Lindsay, founder of the New Discourses podcast, James,
you wrote a wonderful book, The Marxification of Education. I
believe I have that title correct, and I tie so
much of this back to our education system. I've said
repeatedly the most damaging thing these people took over was
the education system. You filter an entire popy relation through
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a communist training camp for eighteen to twenty two years
of their lives, You're going to have millions and millions
of demoralized people who don't know up from down, left
from right. How do we take it back?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, just to reiterate, mal understood that the two things
you have to take over first to really own and
control a country. Mao Zedong and CCP China understood. You
take over the media and you take over the schools.
Those are the first two things. And so what we're
going to have to do is we've the cleanup job
in the schools is unbelievable. It's so big, it's so difficult,
it's going to take so long. That I have the
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bad news, the realistic bad news, I know you love that,
which is that no kid who's in school now is
coming through with a fixed school system. We're not fixing it.
If there's a child that's a child today that is
alive under twenty years old down to birth, a pregnant woman,
even they're not coming through a clean school system. We're
not fixing it that fast. But we've got to start
taking up the efforts. The state of Florida has done
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more to do reforms. I encourage every Republican leader in
every state, at least the ones that still have nuts,
to look at what Florida has done, what Commissioner Manitis
is done with Governor Ron de Santis has done to
clean up education and start us down that road. Because
they're taking. It's too much to get into what they're taking.
Gigantic strides, and they are a model for this country,
and I think everybody needs to be looking at that
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and start taking it very very seriously. And in the meantime,
you need to protect your kids, which means if you can,
you homeschool them, and if you can't, then you are
getting very involved in their lives. Your children know every
single day that you love them, that you are the
most trusted person in their lives, and that they can
come tell you what's happening at school and they don't
have to hide anything from you, and that any adult
who tells them to hide stuff from you is the problem.
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It needs to be reported immediately.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
James, what should I be looking out for with my kids?
I have two sons. They're fourteen and what are fourteen
and fifteen? Yeah, he's about to be sixteen. I'm about
to have a fourteen and sixteen year old? What should
I be on the lookout for as a sign of
uh oh, something's going wrong at school and dad needs
to get even more involved.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
The big overt signs are, obviously, if they start indulging
in a lot of major identity politics. If you start
hearing that there are major behavioral issues with them or
other kids around them. Because of the restorative justice and
inclusive classroom policies, our schools are more violent and dangerous
than ever. But if they're indulging in identity politics in
any way or whatever, now they're thinking as collectivists, and
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whether they've been poisoned and it's taken it up or poisoned,
and they're rebelling against it by going the other way,
and they're still thinking in collectivist identity politics, you've got
a problem. The more subtle signs is if they start
getting more withdrawn, more shy. And that's hard with the
adolescents because they do that naturally. But if they start,
if you start finding it very hard to have conversations
with them about what's going on, you can probably bet
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that somewhere deep down they're getting attacked by the sexuality
side of this stuff, and it's making them very uncomfortable
with their parents, and then that's time for dad to
start getting really concerned.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
James, you and I had a little brief back and
forth about feminism, and I really liked what you had
to say about all forms of feminism. We always talk
about third Wave as if it's bad. It's all bad,
because the second you start pitting men against women, then
eventually women will hate men, and of course men are
going to reciprocate. Men are going to hate women. Now
you have a falling birth rate. Nobody wants to date
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or even talk anymore. It's all just about division. It's
not about women, is it.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
No, it's not. Feminism is a conflict theory. That's what
this is called in the sociology, and a conflict theory
is what Marxism was. Marx began the Communist Manifesto by saying,
all of history up to this point has been the
conflict of antagonistic classes. And so the idea is to
draw a line here, it's men and women. It could
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be rich and poor, it could be middle class and
everybody else. It could be black and white or white
in racial whye. No, it doesn't matter. You draw a line,
you cut the society in half. You say one side
is oppressing the other side. This is Marxist one oh one,
and you set into motion a conflict. Their theory is
that by stoking and provoking every conflict to its mac
some of those conflicts will finally end. Think about that
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for like two seconds. How absolutely asinine that is. What
happens in reality is you stoke the conflict, The conflict
ensues one way or another, and all of the negative
aspects of that conflict become the reality we live in.
Like you said, men hating women, you get the following
birth rates, you get the class or the sorry, the
sex wars. But then what happens downstream, You get all
these young men who not only don't want to date,
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they can't date if they want to. They call them
involuntary selements or in cells. And history has shown in
every population in the world that involuntarily celibate men, men
who cannot get a girlfriend, who can't find meaning to
build a life around a wife and a family, become
the most dangerous members of any society, and they will
carry your society apart. And meanwhile, what's happening is the
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feminists then can use that activity itself as more proof
that they need more of their garbage theory to understand
that misunderstands the problem so that they can apply it
and gain more power for themselves, And the problem just
spirals out of control. It is a what they call
a vicious circle. It is the iterated prisoner's dilemma game
where everybody defects and everybody loses.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yep, James, I should have asked you beforehand. Do you
have time to maybe do one more quick sayment. I
want to ask a little bit more about race Marxisms.
You wrote about that too, and that's fascinating. People don't
understand really what they see here. Do you have a
couple more minutes, Yes, sir, give me just a couple
more minutes and we'll be right back with James Lindsay.
Before we come back with James Lindsay, I want to
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We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. Back
with the founder of the New Discourses podcast. My friend
James Lindsey writes a lot of really good books about
this stuff. James, I remember, obviously, everyone remembers when Saint
George Floyd died in the anarchy that came after that,
in a society dividing amongst themselves. I remember it was
(29:49):
it was really really sad for me. We never have
really discussed race in my house. It's just not something
they discussed. My kids have friends of all colors, our
neighbors are friends of all colors. I'm not acting like
on boot here. We just never cared about It's not
a big deal in my house. But for the first time,
I remember my youngest came home and said, Dad, do
black people hate us? And it was because of everything
he'd seen on TV, and it was just it gutted me.
(30:12):
But it also ticked me off to what these people
do and why they do it. Why did the commedies
love all this crap?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Well before the break, we just talked about that they
run a conflict theory of history, which is actually a
conflict theory of gaining power. If they can divide a
population and set it in conflict. And they positioned themselves
to ride right up the middle and become the select
or elect I really should say vanguard group that's going
to tell us how all race relations are supposed to
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work from now on. Think Ibram Kendy and his Department
of Anti Racism. He wanted to set up in this myth.
He wrote about that in twenty nineteen and pushed it
through the summer of a power be upon him George Floyd.
And so they set up a circumstance where everybody else
is fighting, and then they're going to become the power
brokers that decide how it all works. This is classic communism.
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It's classic Mao pitting groups against each other. It's classic
Lenin and Stalin, it's classic Marx himself.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But you said Mao was pitting groups against each other.
I thought everyone in China was just Chinese. He didn't
do that, did he?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Oh? He certainly did. As a matter of fact, the
big programs, starting even before he took power, all the
way back into the nineteen twenties when the CCP was
first formed, was to unify the racial minorities in China.
There are fifty five racial minority groups and ethnic minority groups,
to unify them against the Han chauvinists. So the Han
race is the biggest race, and instead of it being
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white supremacy, they had Han chauvinism. And he was going
to unite the minority groups against the Han chauvinists who
were forcing them under the Nationalist Party policies to act
like they were one people. It's exactly the same playbooks
CRT rolled out, and Mao didn't even invent it. Mao
got it from Russia, from Russia, from Soviet Union, Lenin
and Stalin put forth a program that most people today
(31:59):
a very familiar with that they've never heard of it.
In Russian it's called Rosna Brozia. Rosna Brozia means diversity,
and guess what it did. It pitted all of the
ethnic minority groups of Russia against the Great Russian Chauvinism,
which is the exact same thing as white supremacy, doing
exactly what our DEI programs today do, doing exactly what
CRT does. This was invented by Lenin and Stalin in
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nineteen twenty one, refined by Mao in CCP China, and
then deployed on the American people in twenty twenty particularly,
but also in the decade leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
James, why did Mao and the Soviets have such a
test the relationship, if you will. They didn't get along? Why?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Well, it turns out that the big lie, or winning
man of the many big lies of communism is that
it's cooperative. It turns out that it's viciously competitive. Everybody
is trying to be the one who brings communism into being.
And so it turns out that the Soviets, particularly Stalin,
thought that Mao Zedong was kind It was a hillbilly redman.
(33:00):
That he didn't have the kind of discipline, which basically
meant that he didn't always listen to Stalin. He wasn't
just going to be this vassal. He was going to
do things his own way, and on the other hand, Stalin,
because of this, would do all of these kinds of
little things to slight Mau, to hamper his power. Promised
him nuclear weapons did not deliver. Promised him other military
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and economic benefits did not deliver, just a cheap Mau.
So Mao remembered being a little narcissistic psychopath, that he
was every single slight, every single bad word, every single lie,
every single injury, and was going to prove that he
was better than Stalin. So they had a very contentious relationship,
but it was this weird one where they because it's communism,
they couldn't get out of each other's orbit. They had
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to help each other against the rest of the world,
the United States in particular, but they actually more or
less hated each other, and so Mal in particular wanted
to brag that he brought a quarter of the world
to socialism and therefore did better than the Soviet Union,
and the Soviets didn't want to admit that. And it's
competitive all the way down. It's competitive and who can
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hate and destroy more.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Real quick, James, I've only got about a minute left.
I wish more people understood that Mao may have been
superseded in the evil column by his witch wife. No
one knows about this woman. This woman was the freaking
spawn of Satan.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, Madam Mao was a major, major problem. But if
we have to talk about super Session, we should talk
not about Madame Mao and her evils. We should talk
about instead in the Gang of Four that she was
part of. We should talk instead about Dumshalping who succeeded
now in nineteen seventy eight. Dungshallping set up this new
model that combines economic fascism with communist governance, which is
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not just what we have in China today, and it
is what is in China's day. It's also the model
for the world. Our ESG program with the United Nations
is pushing. What our Democratic Party and Rhino Republicans are
pushing into this country today is that exact same model
based off of Dungshallping. So all this Maoist identity politics
tearing our country apart with Saint George Floyd, Covid, et cetera,
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is all designed to transition us onto the model that's
presented in China, which is a combination of communism and fascism.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He is, James Lindsay, I have no doubt because you
like my show, you'll be eating up the New Discourses podcast.
Highly recommend you go download to James my friend as always,
Thank you brother, come back soon.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Thankszzie.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
I learned I like to learn. Why do I like
to learn? So I can rub it in my friend's
faces that I'm smarter than them whenever. No listen, Chris,
this is why you acquire knowledge. It's not to help
the world or your country or your family. You acquire
knowledge so you can make the people around you feel
stupid when you know things they don't know. Everyone knows that.
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what an hour we have for you. You want to learn
a little bit more about Mao, Mao's relationship with Stalin,
other things about communism, the race, Marxism in schools. James
(00:32):
Lindsey's gonna join us about a half hour from now,
and it's gonna be fascinating. We'll do some emails. Some
Chinese student Michigan is voting a lot of times and
he doesn't belong here. All that and more coming up
this hour on the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Let's
get to this one AOC. You know, she and Doug
m Hoff, they decided to play They decided to play
(00:55):
nice with each other. Doug m Hoff is around trying
to butcher up, if you will. Doug has had a
rough run of it in the press lately because it
came out that he knocked up his nanny and then
knocked around his girlfriend when he caught her flirting with
another guy. So Doug m Hoff is not exactly anyone's
idea of a man. You find yourself beating women, you're
(01:17):
a piece of trash. But that's who he is. So
why would AOC this is from Breitbart, why would she
gush over him as the ideal man brimming with masculinity,
because in a lot of ways, for her and for
the communist he is, he is the ideal man. And
(01:40):
so they take an end goal and they walk back
from there and try to convince you it's what you
should be. What is? What do they want? What's something
an American communist would want? Well, they want they need
effeminate men. That's what they need. They need a bunch
of well.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, I don't even know how to tie my shoes.
I guess I better bow down to my wife. Women
really should run everything. We men are too stupid.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Har har hard.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's really what they want. Why do they want that?
So the communists can run everything? So they have to
find a way to sell that to you. And that's
why they roll out dimes like AOC to appeal to
young men. It's not an accident. AOC is the one
they've had playing football with Tim Walls. It's not an accident.
(02:36):
AOC's the one gushing over Doug m Hoff. They found
the one hot chick they had in Congress, and they
threw some lipstick on her and they rolled her out
there as an appeal to young men, hoping young men
will look, oh there's AOC. Oh I wouldn't mind taking
AOC out on a date. Oh, AOC, says Doug. Doug
(02:59):
m Hoff is the ideal man. Maybe I should feminize
myself a little bit more and in a roundabout way.
That's how you sell feminism to dudes. And don't think
that this now and this, this particular, this particular instance
of this might not be effective. But overall, beautiful women
(03:22):
selling things to men is the most effective thing in
the world, absolutely in the world. I remember I used
to sell r vs toty this. I used to sell
our v's and every now and then we would have
to go to some huge convention center. We had them
here in Houston, we had them up in Dallas. There'd
be a big RV show. And at an RV show,
(03:44):
a bunch of different RV dealers would bring in, you know,
a few RVs. You'd have a special section of the
convention center and then you knock down your prices and
it's a big sale, right, And they're fun for people.
People show up, walk through RV's. Maybe you're looking for one,
looking for a deal. Anyway you get you get the idea.
Even if you haven't been there, you get the idea.
It's a huge convention for RV's all over the place,
(04:08):
different RV dealerships. I remember the first one we went to.
I think it was actually in Fort Worth, Texas, if
I remember right, don't quote me on that. I think
it was in Fort Worth, Texas. We were You know,
you're always competing. We're dudes. We compete. That's good. That's
competition is a good thing. We're competing with all the
other dealers. We want to sell more, get more customers,
and so you're always sending guys out, do we have
(04:29):
more customers than them? How many sales did they have?
How many? You're always wanting to compete, And we were
pretty good. We were very aggressive. We were pretty good.
We like to knock down the prices and get sales done.
We were doing it well. And this one dealership, though,
they weren't even selling RBS that we thought were equivalent
(04:50):
to ours. And I'm not just saying that because I'm
being a homer. I would tell you if I thought
they were as nice or not. But they were kind
of knockoffs and weren't that great. But they had to
sales board up. You can see because you have a
behind the curtain area where you go in and do
your paperwork and stuff. They had a sales board up
behind there. And after day two or three, I don't remember.
(05:11):
I think it was day two, but I don't want to.
Don't quote me on that. After day two or three,
somebody got a look at their sales board and he
snapped the picture of it with this phone. They had
sold double as many RBS as us double and we
were second and third place was a mile away. We
thought we had it in the bag. We thought we
(05:31):
had it in the bag. And he came running back
and told us all. I was a sales manager at
the time, Hey, Jesse, look at this. These guys are
killing us. And of course immediately I'm angry, and then
I'm trying to figure out what, how, how did they
do that? So I sent a runner over there, Hey,
(05:52):
go see what they're doing. Did they have some superstar
salesman or something like that. No, they had hot chicks.
They went to local It was a Hooters. They went
to a local Hooters. And know they weren't they didn't
wear the Hooters' uniforms, but they grabbed three or four
(06:12):
young ladies, good looking young ladies, and had them wear
shorts and a little tank top. Nothing, nothing inappropriate for kids,
because that would end up turning customers off. But certainly
they weren't dressed up like they were in Saudi Arabia,
and they were walking around with signs, Hey, do you
want a free cousy, Hey, come look at these. You
(06:33):
could hardly walk in their RV area because there were
so many people in there. Beautiful women sell things to men,
always have, always will. If you're listening to the sound
of my voice and you've ever been to a gun show,
Safari Club you ever heard of the Safari Club. Safari
Club is this huge, huge, huge They have them all
(06:54):
over the place, hunting and fishing and hunting gear and
those kinds of things. It's a big expo. You walk
into any big Safari Club exhibit, you will run across
a group of gorgeous young women trying to sell you.
Oh hey, look at our hunts in Africa. Maybe, just
maybe I'll be there. Of course she's not going to
be there, right Ooh hey, come buy some binoculars from me.
(07:17):
I'm Tiffany. I've ruined ten guys' lives. Do you want
to be eleven? That's how's how they sell. And then
you get AOC out there trying to sell Doug m
Hoff as the man brimming with masculinity. There's a reason
for it. Gentlemen, don't fall for it, all right, Don't
do it, fellas, don't do it. Jesse Kelly Pta or PhD.
(07:41):
I had an interview with this week from a career
for a career change in HVAC. This economy forced me
into it. I'm trying to make the best of it.
I tried to remember one thing. Shut up. It worked.
We spent the first thirty minutes talking shop in particulars
until we got onto the topics of bourbon, cigars, golf,
(08:02):
church and family. We spoke for an hour and a
half and it went well. Listen, I've told you this before.
I know it's not a politics thing. We'll get back
to politics in a moment. Talk about some greeny give
outs and talk about this Chinese kid voting a bunch
in Michigan and things like that. But just a little
(08:22):
life tip in case you're interviewing for a job about
to interview for a job. When you interview for a job,
you get nervous. You're nervous. Obviously you want the job,
that's why you're sitting in there. Maybe you even need
the job. I got to have this job. And when
you sit down for a job interview, because you're nervous,
because you want the job, what do you do? You talk?
(08:46):
You sit down. Maybe you've memorized your resume or rehearse
some answers, or maybe you've really researched the company you're
applying for, and you're so anxious to get all this
knowledge out, and you're so anxious to do all that
that you see down and you run your freakin' mouth.
You don't have any idea what the guy interviewing you
(09:07):
or lady interviewing you wants to talk about. I've been
in interviews before, hour long interviews, and I was never
asked a single thing about the particulars of the job
I was applying for. They wanted to talk about football
or kids, or hey, did you catch the game last night,
or the weather or whatever. The art of a job
interview is shutting up and listening. Shut up and listen,
(09:34):
listen to what they are saying what they're asking about,
what they want to talk about. The interview is not
about you, it's about them. And that manager may have
had their dog throwing up that morning, They've got trouble
at the house, and maybe they want to talk to
you about all their dog problems. And I know that
(09:55):
doesn't make sense and it shouldn't be that way, but
that's life. You got an interview of any kind, not
just job of any kind. Shut up and listen, listen,
let your ears guide you, and you will find success.
All right, let's talk about the newest green giveaway all
this climate change scam stuff? What a huge scam? Are
(10:18):
you commies who listen? You're gonna hate this next segment,
absolutely despise it because you're gonna find out how stupid
you are. Hang on the Jesse Kelly Show. I like
it returns next. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Thursday. Reminding you that tomorrow is an ask doctor
Jesse Friday, and you need to get your questions emailed
(10:41):
in right now to Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. You
can leave them by voicemail eight seven seven three seven
seven four three seven three and until I lose my
temper and cut them off. We will be taking phone
calls with ask doctor Jesse questions tomorrow night. It's not
gonna be too Chris. I'm gonna last longer than two.
(11:01):
You know what, Chris, you blame me for when I
get angry and I cut off calls and stuff like that.
Why do you never blame them. I'm the one enforcing
some very basic rules here, some very basic rules. You
want a successful phone call, you got to sound like
this guy.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
You better pack and get the f out of town.
That's what you should do. Bud, you're out of time. Belly,
who's already here?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm kidding.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Don't sound like that guy. Just make sure you get
right to the point. Anyway. Speaking of voicemails, my name
is Kelly.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Regarding birthright citizenship, I have said for years that needs
to go away. As far as mass deportation, yes, I'm
a woman, Yes I have feelings, and yes I am
absolutely for mass deportation. It will not bother me because
my heart is hardened to what has happened to our
country because of this invasion. So my advice to other
(11:51):
women is when people are crying and little kids are crying,
and it shows up on social don't even look them
in the face, because we need our country back. I
love where I live and I want my country back.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
I like that woman. I don't know who she is,
but I like her. That's awesome, all right now, this
is from the Free Beacon Biden Harris program, meant to
greenify low income homes, is mismanaged and vulnerable to fraud.
The Inspector General warns, I want to once again explain
(12:25):
this to everybody, mainly the commies because I know you
already know, but all the comedies who hate listen to
the show Jesse, I hate you, hope you die. All
that stuff said this and this is for you, especially
you greenies. I want you to hear me here. I
am not going to argue climate change with you. That's
not what I'm about to do, so don't worry. I'm
not going to do that. We totally disagree on that.
(12:46):
I think you're an insane lunatic who's taken something found
everywhere in nature, carbon, you decided it was a pollutant,
and now you want to destroy the greatest economy on
the planet by trying to regulate it. Think you're insane,
and you think I'm insane, and that's fine, but set
that aside. They're not talking about you when we're not
talking about me. I'm here to tell you that the
(13:10):
people who sell this stuff to you, the Biden's, the
Bill Gates's, the name, you name it, the academia, the
people who sell you on man married climate change, not
only do they not believe it at all. They don't
believe it. They know you're an idiot, so you'll believe it,
(13:32):
but they don't believe it. That's why they're all on
mansions on the beach. That's why they're all on private jets.
Not only do those people not believe it, it's just
a scheme so they can get rich you want. You
do understand that all the climate change crap, it's a
gigantic scam to bloodsuck more money and power from you
(13:57):
and put it into their bank accounts. In fact, that's
what all of you street communists need to understand and accept.
And I know your street animals, and I know you're
mentally ill, and I know your little demons, and so
it's hard to accept what I'm saying is true. The
people who sell you this stuff, who pay you that paycheck,
you get for burning down a pro life pregnancy center.
(14:19):
The people who are behind all this, none of them
believe in any of the things they tell you to
believe in. None of them do it. All this is a.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Huge scheme so evil people in power can get more
money and more power. Every going green program, every single
one that has ever been devised, has always lined the
pockets of some filthy, rich, powerful democrat. Every single one
(14:50):
has done it. They sell you on man marid climate change,
and they pass another trillion dollar bill. We just have
no choice. We have to buy nothing but sol panels
and windmills. If we don't, people will die.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And if you took five seconds to look into it,
you'd know that Congressman Jerkwater who sold you that on
that plan whatever that law, happens to be his wife's
sister's brother, just happens to be a major stakeholder in
this solar panel company and that windmill company, and his
family fortune just grew by twenty five percent with a
(15:28):
passage of one bill, and you paid for it, your
taxes paid for it. He took your taxes from your wallet,
selling you that he was gonna stop the ryse of
the oceans or whatever other dumb crap they sell you
because you're a moron. He took the money out of
your pocket and he put it into his pocket. Now
(15:49):
he has more money, more power. You have less money,
less power, your poorer, and he doesn't believe any of it.
It's all a big it's all a big scam. Remember
the people who lead the West, the people who lead
America most definitely, you need to think of them as
if they're a gang of bank robbers, because that's really
(16:10):
what they are. They all got together, decided they could
really loot the bank vault if they started working together.
And everything they do, everything, it's all aimed towards looting
that bank vault and hiding what they're doing from you.
So they sell you on all these little things. They
(16:33):
get you worked up in a big demonic frenzy all
the time. Oh my gosh, I need to have an abortion,
Oh my gosh, man made climate change? If if every
little cause, oh, racism, all this other stuff, it's all
designed to distract you and hoover up more money and
power for them. Stop being a useful idiot, all right,
(16:56):
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Me at Time, Name Me at Time?
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Jewish producer Chris replaced the wrong one. Now, anyway, go
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at Chris, hang on what Chris? We can make jokes.
It's fine, you get that right. The Jesse Kelly Show.
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. Gatst
it up for an election. I'm all kinds of fired
(18:37):
up right now, even though I'm a who knows. Every
time I get fired up for one of these things,
I end up being disappointed. Maybe it's maybe it's a
me problem. I wonder what James thinks joining me now,
founder of the New Discourses podcast. I read all of
his stuff. Dude knows more about comedies than probably anybody
I know, my friend James Lindsay. James. Every time I
(18:59):
get excited for it, every time I convinced myself it's
gonna go really well, we go down in flames. Is
it a me problem?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
Yeah? If it is, it's a me problem too. I
have the same problem exactly. Every time I get all
worked up and think I've got this, Everything's going the
way I hope it's going, Man, it turns out sour.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Okay, Let's let's discuss these people's mentality. Because I played
this earlier. I know you've already seen this, but this
CNN reporter mad about the Donald Trump the trash the
garbage truck thing, which was freaking brilliant, by the way,
but well here's.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You was Oh Wolf, My analysis is exactly what we
talked about before. They are trying to milk this for
every single drop that they can.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
They want this to turn into.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
What happened in twenty sixteen when Hillary Clinton said that
Trump supporters were a basket of deplorables. I cannot stress
enough how we have spent the last three days, which
has been reiterating going over these racist file remarks that
we heard in the pre programming leading up to Donald
Trump taking the stage. We have talked about how Puerto
Rican is up.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
They really do see themselves as warriors for the revolution,
don't they.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Oh yeah, that's exactly what they're And the classic saying
is goes to David Horowitz, is that the issue is
never the issue. The issue is always the revolution. So
what they're doing is they're ginning up pretexts to complain
so that they can just keep pushing their agenda. Nobody
cares about a freaking joke about Puerto Rico, who everybody
knows that has a real garbage problem. Everybody knows first
(20:27):
of all, also that Trump didn't say it or even
necessarily thinktion it, just because it happened. But they've got
to use that as a set and setting to come
along because Joe Biden ran his mouth and called half
a country, or probably more than half the country at
this twenty seventy percent of the country garbage. And yeah,
it is a deplorables moment. These people think they're better.
We'll talk about their mentality. They think they're better than
(20:48):
everybody else. They think that everybody who doesn't agree with
them is garbage. Mal Zadong said, to not have a
correct political orientation is like not having a soul. And
these people are maoists. They hit the exact same attitude.
And so yeah, we're standing up. We're taking that label
and throwing it back at them. Trump did it brilliantly,
showing up in arms truck and wearing the orange vest
(21:08):
for his rally last night in Wisconsin. It was fantastic.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
James explain why they are in love with the whole
Nazi thing. Every every Republican's Nazi hitler, Nazi Hitler Nazi hitler,
which of course the people freak out about on our side,
we're not anything like that. But that's not the point,
is it. That's not why they say it.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
No, it's not the point at all. This is actually
a political warfare tactic where what you do is you
label your enemy and something ridiculous and something awful and
something that scares the crap out of the lowest information
part of your low information base. So like a word
like Nazi, and they you know, they label this, and
the goal is to get the argument to be, well,
are you Nazi? Or how are you kind of Nazi?
(21:47):
Or how do you match the Nazis? The goal is
to get people arguing, yes, you are, No, you're not, well,
you're kind of well a little bit. What you need
to be doing instead is saying that you are trying
to set us up and you need to step back
and instead of engaging in this stupid fake argument that
they druck that makes it a big issue. You have
to just call them out and say you're trying to
do this for other reasons. You're trying to bait us
(22:09):
into this argument so you can label some people, or
so somebody will say something stupid on the internet, you'll
hold up in a New York Times article, or you're
setting this up for some kind of a future pretext,
you know, to say, well, you know, we've put out
this whole narrative that they're Nazis and there's all this
Nazi stuff, and so now we can't certify Trump even
though we got elected. So some kind of BS operation
(22:29):
is being put forth with this. It's not legitimate. Again,
the issue is never the issue. The issue is always
the revolution. So they just put out fake stuff to
advance their agenda.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Speaking with James Lindsay, founder of the New Discourses podcast, James,
you wrote a wonderful book, The Marxification of Education. I
believe I have that title correct, and I tie so
much of this back to our education system. I've said
repeatedly the most damaging thing these people took over was
the education system. You filter an entire popy relation through
(23:00):
a communist training camp for eighteen to twenty two years
of their lives, You're going to have millions and millions
of demoralized people who don't know up from down, left
from right. How do we take it back?
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Yeah, just to reiterate, mal understood that the two things
you have to take over first to really own and
control a country. Mao Zedong and CCP China understood. You
take over the media and you take over the schools.
Those are the first two things. And so what we're
going to have to do is we've the cleanup job
in the schools is unbelievable. It's so big, it's so difficult,
it's going to take so long. That I have the
(23:34):
bad news, the realistic bad news, I know you love that,
which is that no kid who's in school now is
coming through with a fixed school system. We're not fixing it.
If there's a child that's a child today that is
alive under twenty years old down to birth, a pregnant woman,
even they're not coming through a clean school system. We're
not fixing it that fast. But we've got to start
taking up the efforts. The state of Florida has done
(23:55):
more to do reforms. I encourage every Republican leader in
every state, at least the ones that still have nuts,
to look at what Florida has done, what Commissioner Manitis
is done with Governor Ron de Santis has done to
clean up education and start us down that road. Because
they're taking. It's too much to get into what they're taking.
Gigantic strides, and they are a model for this country,
and I think everybody needs to be looking at that
(24:15):
and start taking it very very seriously. And in the meantime,
you need to protect your kids, which means if you can,
you homeschool them, and if you can't, then you are
getting very involved in their lives. Your children know every
single day that you love them, that you are the
most trusted person in their lives, and that they can
come tell you what's happening at school and they don't
have to hide anything from you, and that any adult
who tells them to hide stuff from you is the problem.
(24:38):
It needs to be reported immediately.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
James, what should I be looking out for with my kids?
I have two sons. They're fourteen and what are fourteen
and fifteen? Yeah, he's about to be sixteen. I'm about
to have a fourteen and sixteen year old? What should
I be on the lookout for as a sign of
uh oh, something's going wrong at school and dad needs
to get even more involved.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
The big overt signs are, obviously, if they start indulging
in a lot of major identity politics. If you start
hearing that there are major behavioral issues with them or
other kids around them. Because of the restorative justice and
inclusive classroom policies, our schools are more violent and dangerous
than ever. But if they're indulging in identity politics in
any way or whatever, now they're thinking as collectivists, and
(25:22):
whether they've been poisoned and it's taken it up or poisoned,
and they're rebelling against it by going the other way,
and they're still thinking in collectivist identity politics, you've got
a problem. The more subtle signs is if they start
getting more withdrawn, more shy. And that's hard with the
adolescents because they do that naturally. But if they start,
if you start finding it very hard to have conversations
with them about what's going on, you can probably bet
(25:43):
that somewhere deep down they're getting attacked by the sexuality
side of this stuff, and it's making them very uncomfortable
with their parents, and then that's time for dad to
start getting really concerned.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
James, you and I had a little brief back and
forth about feminism, and I really liked what you had
to say about all forms of feminism. We always talk
about third Wave as if it's bad. It's all bad,
because the second you start pitting men against women, then
eventually women will hate men, and of course men are
going to reciprocate. Men are going to hate women. Now
you have a falling birth rate. Nobody wants to date
(26:15):
or even talk anymore. It's all just about division. It's
not about women, is it.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
No, it's not. Feminism is a conflict theory. That's what
this is called in the sociology, and a conflict theory
is what Marxism was. Marx began the Communist Manifesto by saying,
all of history up to this point has been the
conflict of antagonistic classes. And so the idea is to
draw a line here, it's men and women. It could
(26:41):
be rich and poor, it could be middle class and
everybody else. It could be black and white or white
in racial whye. No, it doesn't matter. You draw a line,
you cut the society in half. You say one side
is oppressing the other side. This is Marxist one oh one,
and you set into motion a conflict. Their theory is
that by stoking and provoking every conflict to its mac
some of those conflicts will finally end. Think about that
(27:02):
for like two seconds. How absolutely asinine that is. What
happens in reality is you stoke the conflict, The conflict
ensues one way or another, and all of the negative
aspects of that conflict become the reality we live in.
Like you said, men hating women, you get the following
birth rates, you get the class or the sorry, the
sex wars. But then what happens downstream, You get all
these young men who not only don't want to date,
(27:24):
they can't date if they want to. They call them
involuntary selements or in cells. And history has shown in
every population in the world that involuntarily celibate men, men
who cannot get a girlfriend, who can't find meaning to
build a life around a wife and a family, become
the most dangerous members of any society, and they will
carry your society apart. And meanwhile, what's happening is the
(27:45):
feminists then can use that activity itself as more proof
that they need more of their garbage theory to understand
that misunderstands the problem so that they can apply it
and gain more power for themselves, And the problem just
spirals out of control. It is a what they call
a vicious circle. It is the iterated prisoner's dilemma game
where everybody defects and everybody loses.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yep, James, I should have asked you beforehand. Do you
have time to maybe do one more quick sayment. I
want to ask a little bit more about race Marxisms.
You wrote about that too, and that's fascinating. People don't
understand really what they see here. Do you have a
couple more minutes, Yes, sir, give me just a couple
more minutes and we'll be right back with James Lindsay.
Before we come back with James Lindsay, I want to
(28:30):
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Speaker 3 (29:24):
The Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
It is The Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday. Back
with the founder of the New Discourses podcast. My friend
James Lindsey writes a lot of really good books about
this stuff. James, I remember, obviously, everyone remembers when Saint
George Floyd died in the anarchy that came after that,
in a society dividing amongst themselves. I remember it was
(29:49):
it was really really sad for me. We never have
really discussed race in my house. It's just not something
they discussed. My kids have friends of all colors, our
neighbors are friends of all colors. I'm not acting like
on boot here. We just never cared about It's not
a big deal in my house. But for the first time,
I remember my youngest came home and said, Dad, do
black people hate us? And it was because of everything
he'd seen on TV, and it was just it gutted me.
(30:12):
But it also ticked me off to what these people
do and why they do it. Why did the commedies
love all this crap?
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Well before the break, we just talked about that they
run a conflict theory of history, which is actually a
conflict theory of gaining power. If they can divide a
population and set it in conflict. And they positioned themselves
to ride right up the middle and become the select
or elect I really should say vanguard group that's going
to tell us how all race relations are supposed to
(30:40):
work from now on. Think Ibram Kendy and his Department
of Anti Racism. He wanted to set up in this myth.
He wrote about that in twenty nineteen and pushed it
through the summer of a power be upon him George Floyd.
And so they set up a circumstance where everybody else
is fighting, and then they're going to become the power
brokers that decide how it all works. This is classic communism.
(31:01):
It's classic Mao pitting groups against each other. It's classic
Lenin and Stalin, it's classic Marx himself.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
But you said Mao was pitting groups against each other.
I thought everyone in China was just Chinese. He didn't
do that, did he?
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Oh? He certainly did. As a matter of fact, the
big programs, starting even before he took power, all the
way back into the nineteen twenties when the CCP was
first formed, was to unify the racial minorities in China.
There are fifty five racial minority groups and ethnic minority groups,
to unify them against the Han chauvinists. So the Han
race is the biggest race, and instead of it being
(31:37):
white supremacy, they had Han chauvinism. And he was going
to unite the minority groups against the Han chauvinists who
were forcing them under the Nationalist Party policies to act
like they were one people. It's exactly the same playbooks
CRT rolled out, and Mao didn't even invent it. Mao
got it from Russia, from Russia, from Soviet Union, Lenin
and Stalin put forth a program that most people today
(31:59):
a very familiar with that they've never heard of it.
In Russian it's called Rosna Brozia. Rosna Brozia means diversity,
and guess what it did. It pitted all of the
ethnic minority groups of Russia against the Great Russian Chauvinism,
which is the exact same thing as white supremacy, doing
exactly what our DEI programs today do, doing exactly what
CRT does. This was invented by Lenin and Stalin in
(32:20):
nineteen twenty one, refined by Mao in CCP China, and
then deployed on the American people in twenty twenty particularly,
but also in the decade leading up to it.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
James, why did Mao and the Soviets have such a
test the relationship, if you will. They didn't get along? Why?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Well, it turns out that the big lie, or winning
man of the many big lies of communism is that
it's cooperative. It turns out that it's viciously competitive. Everybody
is trying to be the one who brings communism into being.
And so it turns out that the Soviets, particularly Stalin,
thought that Mao Zedong was kind It was a hillbilly redman.
(33:00):
That he didn't have the kind of discipline, which basically
meant that he didn't always listen to Stalin. He wasn't
just going to be this vassal. He was going to
do things his own way, and on the other hand, Stalin,
because of this, would do all of these kinds of
little things to slight Mau, to hamper his power. Promised
him nuclear weapons did not deliver. Promised him other military
(33:20):
and economic benefits did not deliver, just a cheap Mau.
So Mao remembered being a little narcissistic psychopath, that he
was every single slight, every single bad word, every single lie,
every single injury, and was going to prove that he
was better than Stalin. So they had a very contentious relationship,
but it was this weird one where they because it's communism,
they couldn't get out of each other's orbit. They had
(33:42):
to help each other against the rest of the world,
the United States in particular, but they actually more or
less hated each other, and so Mal in particular wanted
to brag that he brought a quarter of the world
to socialism and therefore did better than the Soviet Union,
and the Soviets didn't want to admit that. And it's
competitive all the way down. It's competitive and who can
(34:03):
hate and destroy more.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Real quick, James, I've only got about a minute left.
I wish more people understood that Mao may have been
superseded in the evil column by his witch wife. No
one knows about this woman. This woman was the freaking
spawn of Satan.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yeah, Madam Mao was a major, major problem. But if
we have to talk about super Session, we should talk
not about Madame Mao and her evils. We should talk
about instead in the Gang of Four that she was
part of. We should talk instead about Dumshalping who succeeded
now in nineteen seventy eight. Dungshallping set up this new
model that combines economic fascism with communist governance, which is
(34:42):
not just what we have in China today, and it
is what is in China's day. It's also the model
for the world. Our ESG program with the United Nations
is pushing. What our Democratic Party and Rhino Republicans are
pushing into this country today is that exact same model
based off of Dungshallping. So all this Maoist identity politics
tearing our country apart with Saint George Floyd, Covid, et cetera,
(35:04):
is all designed to transition us onto the model that's
presented in China, which is a combination of communism and fascism.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He is, James Lindsay, I have no doubt because you
like my show, you'll be eating up the New Discourses podcast.
Highly recommend you go download to James my friend as always,
Thank you brother, come back soon.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Thankszzie.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
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to learn? So I can rub it in my friend's
faces that I'm smarter than them whenever. No listen, Chris,
this is why you acquire knowledge. It's not to help
the world or your country or your family. You acquire
knowledge so you can make the people around you feel
stupid when you know things they don't know. Everyone knows that.
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