October 9, 2024 • 36 mins
Did Nero really play the violin as Rome burnt to the ground? A boat designed to sink. A totally ungrounded emperor. Unable to stop himself. Beloved overseas but hated domestically. Even more women are coming forward about feminist Doug Emhoff
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
This is a Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour, another hour of
The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday, Oh hopday. And
so let's dig into this. Well, we're gonna finish up
our story of Nero this hour. We're gonna make fun
of Doug m. Hoff. We're gonna do some emails. Remember,
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We'll make a little fun of Dome, make fun of
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automatically and go listen to the rest of it at
your leisure. I'm not covering the entire backstory now. All
you need to know in case you're just now joining us,
is the young boy king Nero has just taken over
his emperor. His conniving, intelligent, possibly evil mother Agrippina is
the one largely responsible for getting him the throne. Nero
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takes over and he is a popular man very popular.
He's cutting taxes, he's giving slaves rights, he's eliminating capital punishment,
he's returning power to the Senate, he's attacking corruption. He
is a populist by any sense of the word. At first,
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at least and then remember how young Nero is. Then
Nero begins to change. And I don't know why. There
are books written about why what happened? Was he drugged?
Did he have medical episode? Was this just a growing
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up thing? Remember you take power when you're sixteen at
the age of sixteen, Think about what you were like
when you were sixteen. Think about how dumb you were.
Think about how dumb. It might not be the right
way to put it, but think about everything you didn't
know at sixteen. Imagine being the most powerful person on
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the planet at the age of sixteen, essentially worshiped as
a god. Maybe it was just the power that wrecked him.
But Nero begins to chafe. He begins to chafe against
his mother. Niro starts to really like girls. Sixteen year
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old boy, sixteen year old, sixteen year old boy and
the most powerful person on earth. Do you think maybe
he got some female attention, But as teenage boys tend
to do and teenage girls. He didn't always go for
the girls his mother wanted him to go for. Nero
is chasing down slave girls. That is not something that
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was done in Roman society. Nero was a bit of
an odd duck. Anyway. We'll come back to that. But
Nero's mother begins to voice her disapproval of his choices
in life, and Nero, apparently, you know, eventually young boys,
they don't. They don't cling to mommy like they used to,
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instead of bowing to her wishes like he always had before,
starts to push her out, starts to phase her out.
Remember I mentioned the coins where her face was printed
on the same side as his face. Yeah, there were
new coins minted. It wasn't like that anymore. Agrippina is
no longer allowed to live in the palace Nero has built. Agrippina,
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his mother is sent to a different palace. No, no, no, no,
mom no, I still love you. I just don't want
you to live. If you could, if you wouldn't mind
moving out, I got a slave girl, I mean to.
Agrippina gets moved out. Remember the influences in Nero's life
that were keeping him grounded. They're giving a lot of
credit for his popular reforms, influences like Seneca, the popular philosopher,
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the Oprah in the day Seneca pushed out, Hey Seneca,
thanks for that advice. Anyway, got a date with a
slave girl tonight, not gonna be not going to be
making my philosopher appointment. Thanks too bad. So sad. The
people who guided Nero are being pushed out by Nero.
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And when you're the freaking Roman emperor, you can push
out whoever you intend to push out. But you do
have these norms. There's a there is a culture in Rome.
And while the Romans would accept a lot of things,
they shouldn't accept a lot of things you shouldn't accept.
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There is one thing that really really well. There who
many things, but there's something that really really graded on
the Romans. That was fratricide, the killing of a family member,
especially your mother. You see, women weren't allowed to really
hold official political power in Rome. But like virtually every
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other society that sounds very patriarchal, the men ruled everything.
That was obviously not totally the case. Women operate in
a different way. They're more they would tend to maneuver
behind the scenes, manipulate things. That's the women wield power
differently than men wield power. Okay, so women were not,
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contrary to what your history book tells you, useless, worthless,
second class citizens who were put upon in Rome. They
didn't have the rights men had. I'm not saying they did.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they did.
But they weren't. These stupid slaves kept in a closet
until they were allowed let out to make dinner and
make babies. It was not that way at all. The
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Romans revered their mothers. You don't harm your mother. Nero,
apparently Chafing was putting it nicely. Decided he wanted his
mother dead, but he didn't want to just murderer. Obviously,
he could just show up at her house with his
praetorian guard stabber to death. He could do that, but
that would look really bad. The Romans would look poorly
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on that end. Even an emperor, it's not just a
president or a senator. Even an emperor has to worry
about public opinion. If the public turns against you, you
probably won't be there long. So what do you do
if you're Nero? Well, again, they could make a movie.
I don't know how this hasn't been made into a
series on HBO or something. Nero decides he's going to
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have his mother drown. If you will, how were you
going to pull something like that off? He has engineers
build for him a sizeable boat, a boat that is
designed to fail and sink once it gets out onto
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the water. This true story. Nero has a little banquet,
Mom is invited one night. Mom, after dark, decides she
wants to go home, back to her separate place, and
she has to cross the river, a very very large river.
This is not a creek. So Mom hops in this
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wonderful new boat her son purchased for her. What a
good boy. And on this boat where a bunch of
people men Nero had bought off to ensure his mother
never made it to the shore. See what I did there, Chris,
to ensure that his mother never made the shore alive.
The boat begins to sail across the water. The boat
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does exactly as what it was designed to do, and
the boat begins to sink beneath the waves. Agrippina, has
she struck you so far as a moron? This is
a very cunning woman. Agrippina very quickly figures out in
the middle of the night, in the middle of the river,
the boat is sinking. This is on purpose. My son's
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trying to kill me. So Agrippina does the most Agrippina
thing ever. She puts her clothes onto her personal attendant,
her personal maid. I've heard the woman described as a slave.
I don't know what she was, but she was someone
there for Agrippina. Agrippina gives her her clothes and says, hey,
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I want you to live, so call out to the
guards and say you're me. The maid starts saying help me.
I'm Agrippina, I'm drowning. Help me. Agrippina slips over the
side of the boat and begins to swim. As her
maid is saying help me, the guys who were on
the boat come down and beat her to death. They
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think they've killed Agrippina, but they have not killed Agrippina.
The boat goes under the water. Agrippina is very much alive.
She is rescued by it. This is the true story.
She's rescued by a fishing vessel. She gets over to
the shore. She gets home. I made it, but Nero's
not gonna let that go. Remember what I just described
about Roman mothers and women in society. Nero says, well,
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the boat thing didn't work, Let's just go with the
sword thing. He has a bunch of men with clubs
and swords and spears show up at her home. After
she lives, they beat her to death. Allegedly. You never
know how much of this is Roman soap opera stuff
and how much of it is real. Allegedly, she told
her attackers, as they were about to land their killing blows,
she pointed to her womb and said, here, stab me,
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here where the monster grew. Talking about Nero. She was
well aware of why she was being beaten to death
in the middle of the night in her home. Well,
now Agrippina is gone now, as evil as she may
have been, really, anybody holding Nero down to any sense
of reality, now these people have been run out of
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his life by Nero. I might want to point that out.
And oh, the terrible stories about Nero. You've heard, many
of them false, but many of them true. Now those
stories are going to play out, if you will, we
will try to wrap up our Nero's story and get
back to do some politics in just a couple moments.
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drove the show right off a bridge. Today on a Wednesday,
decided we were gonna do some history just because I
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a long history episode today, I just felt like it.
Sometimes I do. I've told you I'm gonna bring you
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and do a little bit more politics before we wrap
things up here. Nero's mother dies, tries to have her drowned.
She manages to survive because she's a wily one. She
ends up getting beaten and stabbed to death by Nero's people. Nero,
really it's got to be the power going to his head. Nero,
understanding this wouldn't look good to the public, tried to
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call it a suicide. But look, we think ancient times,
we think they were less informed than they actually were.
How long do you think until the word got out
of what actually happened. People figured out what happened to
Nero's mom. So remember that popularity Nero has or had,
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It tends to disappear very very quickly in Roman society
when they find out you had your mother beaten to death.
Now that brings us to the Great Fire of Rome.
Old cities. I say, oh, this applies to Chicago when
it burnt up. But older cities were They were tinder
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boxes made to burn, And it's not really the fault
of the people there. Think about this. We were used
to living in a global economy where if I want
to build a house, Let's say I have a bunch
of money and I want to build a special house
for myself. No I'm not building a house, but I
want to build a house out of a certain marble house.
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Maybe I want marble everywhere. Well there's no marble here,
but I could do it. If I had the money
to do it, I could bring in whatever I wanted
to bring in. For most of human history, the world
wasn't as global as it is now, and you build
your structures with what you have what is around you. Rome,
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like virtually every other ancient city was made of wood. Yes,
there was stone and brick and things like that in
the Romans did that stuff very well. But for the
most part, it's a wooden city. When we picture ancient Rome,
we all myself included picture white marble, don't we Everything
was marble. It was probably all glistening white and marble.
This and marble that that is later later Rome. And
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even then even in later Rome that was only special
parts of Rome. Rome was wood. If you got transported
back in time, if I got transported back in time
to the year zero, you know that the year Jesus
was born, you'd probably be kind of disappointed with how
ugly Rome was. I would, we we would. I want
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to tell you right now, I want to picture this
glistening white city. It would not look like that. It
would be smelly, it would be dirty, it would be wooden.
No one knows how the fire starts. The truth is,
no one knows, and no one will ever know. We're
dealing with forensics. Two thousand years ago, a fire starts.
The city is not only made of wood, but the
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streets are extremely narrow, so fire jumps across the street.
What you need to know is entire districts of Rome burnt.
Now here's where we have to do a little history
that might burst your bubble a little bit. On Neiro,
Don't worry if you hate him and think he's the Antichrist,
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you'll go right back to hating him in a minute.
And he really earned a lot of that title. But
Nero did not play the fiddle while Rome burnt. In fact,
Nero couldn't play the fiddle. In fact, Nero wasn't even
in Rome during the fire. Yeah, he was outside of
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the city. It wasn't. That was a myth, that was
It was propaganda that came after the fact to make
Nero even more hated than he already was. I'm not
absolving Nero of anything, but he didn't play the fiddle
while Rome burnt. But Rome did burn, and not a
house or two districts plural burnt. That is devastation, complete
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societal devastation. It would have been palpable everywhere in the city.
The whole place would have smelled like smoke. That it
would have been a discussion of Look right now, Helene,
Helene's going on people looking for relatives. I haven't seen
my grandpa. I haven't heard from my son, so that
it would have been exactly that, in a little bit
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of a different form in Rome, when that much of
the city goes up. My sister was visiting that part.
Has anyone heard from I haven't had a letter from
my brother. It would have been a societal sadness and
anger that would have been palpable. And when people get angry,
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when people have a tremendous loss, this is human nature.
It's your nature, it's my nature. It's oftentimes when we
have to fight against but it is our nature. We
need something or someone to blame, we will blame something
or someone. You see in modern days, you see the
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communists take advantage of this all the time. When there's
a school shooting, We're sad. Oh my gosh, the kids.
I'm sad. I'm so sad. This is horrible. I'm sad,
I'm angry. And that's why the communist has learned to
run to the TV cameras and say, look, it's the guns.
Look at the gun, Republicans, it's guns. Republicans. Be mad.
Here's where you focus your anger. Look at them. That's
where your anger should go. It's a play on human
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nature when we get sad. When we get angry, we
want to blame someone or something. Here you are, Nero.
It wasn't your fault. You weren't in the city, you
weren't playing the fiddle. But the Romans are already angry
at you for your mother dying. Now districts have burnt
under your watch. If you're Nero, you have a problem.
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How do you solve it? Next? What?
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wednesday, a
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I'm not sorry at all, not even a little bit.
All right, let's try to finish up this story of Nero.
Nero was already losing popularity. His mother died. Then Rome
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catches fire, Rome burns. He wasn't playing the fiddle, He
wasn't even in Rome. But the people were angry that
people were sad. Who is responsible for this? Nero? He
tries to capitalize on something, but he blows it. He
gives the people a Patsy. He gives them someone to blame.
He blames the Christian Remember we already described Roman society
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how Christians were. They were really outcasts at this time
that it was thought of as a cult. Their beliefs,
they think, they think their God is above the emperor.
So they were already kind of second class citizens. People
were more inclined to believe bad things about Christians in
Jews in Roman society back then, because they had separated themselves.
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Nero smartly, this is one of the smart things he
didn't even though was freaking evil and wrong. Nero smartly said, Uh,
it's the Christians who set the fire. That weird cult
always talking about this Jesus guy, that's who did it.
That was no, we'll come back to the persecution in
a moment. That was the smart side of it, the
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bad side of it, or the dumb side of It's this.
He actually starts to do a good job rebuilding the city,
and he rebuilds Rome in a pretty wonderful way. The
parts he read, remember the streets that were too narrow.
He widens out the streets. He does it right. He
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builds the districts back better. He builds back better. Hah.
He does it right, though, he does it right, except
he can't help himself. He does all this, and then
he builds for himself a massive palace and puts a
huge statue of himself on top of the palace. You
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had the people's goodwill, you were getting it back, and
you had to do something else for yourself. At the
same time, people were happy to go along with the
blaming of the Christians, but I don't know that they
really truly understood what they were signing up for. They
used to feed Christians to the wild animals. Nero used
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to throw these massive garden parties the senators and wives
and high society type. He threw garden parties after this,
and he had Christians burnt alive to light up the
garden parties. Burning Christians served as lamps for the garden parties.
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Even if you're a Roman senator who hates Christians, maybe
you think they're horrible, they're terrible, Maybe you even believe
him and you blame them for the fire. Even if
all those things are true, when you find yourself in
a garden party trying to eat or dervs right next
to a Christians who's burning alive, and screaming. You tend
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to look around and ask yourself if you're on the
right side of things. Nero, he takes it way too far.
He starts to have political opponents who are raising their
objections to him and his ways. He starts to have
them arrested. He starts to have show trials, secret trials.
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Corruption come right back as Nero goes on to execute
his enemies. He puts them on trial. And now once
you start doing that, plots begin to form to assassinate him.
He then takes this was probably the final step that
finished him off. He had a wife. She was pregnant.
Again in Roman society, that's a sacred good thing. He
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kicks her to death, loses her in the baby. The
dude is a psychopath and a demon and a monster.
He not only kicks her to death to just give
you some window into his mind. He has her stuffed
embalmed like she's a deer, and he goes and visits her.
He then has a boy. Uh, I don't know how
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I can describe this. There are children listening. He has
a boy. He misses his wife, so he finds a
boy and has some surgery performed on the boy. Anyway,
the boy had to pretend to be his wife for
a while. Yeah, this guy's not doing well at all.
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He's now reviled at home. And so tell me if
any of this sounds familiar. The people domestically hate his
guts so badly for the things that he's done and
the things he's done to them. He chooses to go
on foreign trips, and he's beloved overseas. Of course, he
goes overseas, he puts on games and banquets for them.
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He hands out money, tremendous amounts of money from the
Roman treasury. Money's stolen from the Roman citizen, and he
lavishes it on foreign countries. And he's beloved overseas, except
he's not minding the store back home. Eventually, a rebellion
begins in the provinces. Rome had different provinces governor. One
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governor starts rebelling, another governor starts rebelling, and soon Nero
begins to sniff way too many plots against him. He
feels like his end might be near, but at least
he has the Petorian Guard, right. It's tough to kill
an emperor when the emperor is surrounded by men with
shields and spears and armor, and when they're the only
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ones with that stuff, the emperor's awfully safe. So picture
this one of the great moments in history. When you
picture it, you're an emperor, you're Nero. You're in a palace.
No matter what you do, no matter where you go,
there are people there to wait on you and protect
you hand and foot. If you're a Nero and you
get up in the middle of the night and you
f top, there will be a slave and probably a servant,
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and probably a guard in the bathroom with you. Hey,
you want some olives with that? That's the way your
life is. Everywhere. There's security everywhere. There are slaves everywhere,
there are servants. There are people surrounding you all times.
After all, your thought of as a god made man.
Nero wakes up. The palace is empty. This is a
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human being who's used to people around him all the time.
Where are the servants, Where are the guards? He starts
to call out to people. The entire palace is empty.
There's no one there. Everyone left when he went to sleep.
There's no one there but Nero. Nero begins to whine,
that's what the rumors say. Wine beg cry where is everyone.
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Nero figures out, I'm going to die tonight. There's only
one reason they would have emptied out the palace. It's
because they're gonna kill me. Nero hops on a horse
I assume may have been a carriage, hops on something
with fore legs, and takes off ends up in a
tiny villa. The Romans are now hunting him to finish
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him off. Nero fancied himself a musician, and so the
rumor is that he said something along the lines of
what an artist is about to die about himself, what
an artist is about to die? Here's the Roman soldiers.
They finally track him down. They start to close in
on him. He looks at the slaves he brought with him,
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begs them, begs them to finish him off. None of
them will do so they're all too afraid. As the
soldiers are kicking down the door, Nero takes a dagger
stabs himself in the throat. The soldiers come in to
see Nero bleeding to death, and he allegedly again allegedly
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you never know, looks at them and says you're too late,
and he bleeds out and dies on the ground. That
is the story of Nero, and that is an excellent
example of how badly power screws you up, how bad
politics can truly get, even in a civilized country. Remember,
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for hundreds and hundreds of years before this, the Romans
had convinced themselves that they were above all those barbarians,
with all their political violence and death and murder and
all the intrigue. They were above all those things. And
then as their leaders rotted above them, they saw what
happens to a society when it rocks too much. Nero
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is a wonderful example for a lot of different reasons.
You can use his mother, you can use Roman society.
I just think it's an incredible story and one that
probably should be known by a lot of people. And
that is a little history for you. Now, let's do
a little bit more politics, and then we'll check out
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this is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show on
a Wednesday, on a hump day. I hope you have
put a smile on your face. Now. I want to
do just a little bit of a rewind before we
check out here and make fun of the second gentleman again,
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do you remember you remember, I think it was last
week when we were talking about Doug m Hoff and
this is after it came out the Doug m Off
had slapped around. Well, remember when I said this, what
a feminist, what a champion of women? Doug m Hoff,
this is from Red State, told former girlfriend he'd paid
eighty thousand dollars in hush money to a nanny he impregnated,
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and he made her sign an NDA. He knocked up
his kid's tutor, got a divorce for it, paid her
eighty g's and made her sign an NDA to not
tell anyone that kid's his. And that's why he spends
a lot of time on the news talking about what
a champion of women he is. Ladies, gentlemen, you anti
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communists who are listening, and even you dirty comedies who
hate listen all the time. Allow me to tell you
one thing that is true about ninety nine point nine
to nine percent of the time. If there is a
male feminist who gets a little too loud about what
a male feminist he is, that is a male feminist
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who's done some dark things to women in his past.
That is true almost every time. Just like the Mark
Cubans of the world who get a little too. I
love democrats have something dark in there for some reason.
Same thing with male feminists. That's how that works. Exclusive
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Kamala Harris' husband, Doug Mhoff, faces explosive new allegations from
his time at a top la law firm. Now, I'm
not gonna go through all the specific allegations. There's a
lot of stuff in here that honestly just sounds like
dudes at work. There are accusations like, quote, he yelled expletives.
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That's part of it. Okay, there are you guys, a
bunch of children. I hear that stuff all the time.
Another allegation is he held a men only cocktail hour. Well,
how else are you supposed to have a conversation? You
have to have a male only again, so a lot
of these things are this. But he also revoked work
perks from women who didn't flirt with him. He took
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only young attractive associates in a limousine to a ball.
Apparently there's a lawsuit claiming discrimination, harassment, all kinds of things.
Once again, a reminder to everyone, the second you hear
a man in any setting talking like this, your red
flags should be waving so fast you can't see anything
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being second, gentlemen, changed your own view of perceived gender
roles of what it means to be a.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Man's This is something I've thought about a lot and
something I've spoken about a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
There's too much of toxicity. It's masculine.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Too much toxicity, says the guy with his secretary on
his lap in the back of a limousine on the
way to an LA ball after male only cocktail.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Out and toxicity out there, and we've kind of confused
what it means to be a man, what it means
to be masculine.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Where you've got this trope out there that you've.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Got to be tough and angry and lash out to
be strong.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's just the opposite. You know. Strength is how you
show your love.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Ah, we know you don't have to lash out, Doug,
just give her another back cave for people.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Strength is how you are for people and how you
have their back, and how you stick up for other
people and pushing up.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You already told her once. Don't make me pull out
a left and tell her.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
To washing out against bullies. I mean, that's what I
believe it is.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
So every time I can speak against this toxicity. We're
seeing it with our younger people. We're seeing it in
our discourse and our politics and the media. You're seeing
it as it relates to so many of the issues
that we're pushing back on.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Like I said, even if you are a feminist, which
I don't know why you'd want to be that, but
even if you are a feminist, as soon as you
hear a man talking like that, there's a reason. And
it's not because she loves women so much. I promise
you that. And now he's a headline. Why, oh, you
know the thing headlines we didn't get to. Dems claim
(33:34):
public schools mostly run by Dems are racists. Well, this
all comes back to what we talked about before. The
communist he wants control of everything. He doesn't want control
of most things. When he looks at the public school system,
he sees a couple islands that are still unconquered. You
look at the public school system and you're mortified by
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how much of it is under communist control. He's mortified
that any of it has escaped his control. Just go,
Floridians told to get moving as Hurricane Milton closes in
obviously that is something happening as we speak. Say a
prayer for the people of Florida. If you are listening
to the sound of my voice, we are praying for you.
(34:15):
We are rooting for you. You are going to be fine.
Don't panic. Use your head, all right. Report government sends
electric chainsaws to Appalachian town without power. Look, I'm all
on board with some modern technology, and I'm okay with
some electric tools. I actually have a battery powered driver
and a couple battery powered things at home. Battery powered
(34:37):
chainsaw that just doesn't sound right at all. If I'm
gonna cut my leg off, I want to do it
with fuel. Major US water company hit by a cyber attack.
I do the best I can to not think about
all the parts, the critical parts of our society that
are tied to the Internet and tied to computers, because
there are some very dangerous hackers out there who can
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do some very dangerous things. Stolen Vienna sausages lead a
Georgia nursing home resident being to being stabbed in the chest.
Look you take my Vienna sausages, it's on pal I
will stab you in the chest. California faces waves of
lawsuits over gender identity notification in schools. I love that
we're being more litigious. What Chris Voter registration group giving
(35:23):
away Taylor Swift tickets is led by Eric Adams Operative
who was convicted of voter fraud. Just half of the
Democrat efforts in this country are various ways they can
just do things against the law in order to electioneer
and win elections. They just it really is this all
encompassing crime empire they have. It's amazing. Resistance is justified.
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Columbia students celebrate October seventh as pro Hamas demonstration turns
violent in New York City. No way Hamas violent. That's crazy. Anyway,
Tomorrow is going to be an awesome day too. You
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Hey, the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour, another hour of
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so let's dig into this. Well, we're gonna finish up
our story of Nero this hour. We're gonna make fun
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automatically and go listen to the rest of it at
your leisure. I'm not covering the entire backstory now. All
you need to know in case you're just now joining us,
is the young boy king Nero has just taken over
his emperor. His conniving, intelligent, possibly evil mother Agrippina is
the one largely responsible for getting him the throne. Nero
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takes over and he is a popular man very popular.
He's cutting taxes, he's giving slaves rights, he's eliminating capital punishment,
he's returning power to the Senate, he's attacking corruption. He
is a populist by any sense of the word. At first,
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at least and then remember how young Nero is. Then
Nero begins to change. And I don't know why. There
are books written about why what happened? Was he drugged?
Did he have medical episode? Was this just a growing
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up thing? Remember you take power when you're sixteen at
the age of sixteen, Think about what you were like
when you were sixteen. Think about how dumb you were.
Think about how dumb. It might not be the right
way to put it, but think about everything you didn't
know at sixteen. Imagine being the most powerful person on
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the planet at the age of sixteen, essentially worshiped as
a god. Maybe it was just the power that wrecked him.
But Nero begins to chafe. He begins to chafe against
his mother. Niro starts to really like girls. Sixteen year
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old boy, sixteen year old, sixteen year old boy and
the most powerful person on earth. Do you think maybe
he got some female attention, But as teenage boys tend
to do and teenage girls. He didn't always go for
the girls his mother wanted him to go for. Nero
is chasing down slave girls. That is not something that
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was done in Roman society. Nero was a bit of
an odd duck. Anyway. We'll come back to that. But
Nero's mother begins to voice her disapproval of his choices
in life, and Nero, apparently, you know, eventually young boys,
they don't. They don't cling to mommy like they used to,
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instead of bowing to her wishes like he always had before,
starts to push her out, starts to phase her out.
Remember I mentioned the coins where her face was printed
on the same side as his face. Yeah, there were
new coins minted. It wasn't like that anymore. Agrippina is
no longer allowed to live in the palace Nero has built. Agrippina,
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his mother is sent to a different palace. No, no, no, no,
mom no, I still love you. I just don't want
you to live. If you could, if you wouldn't mind
moving out, I got a slave girl, I mean to.
Agrippina gets moved out. Remember the influences in Nero's life
that were keeping him grounded. They're giving a lot of
credit for his popular reforms, influences like Seneca, the popular philosopher,
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the Oprah in the day Seneca pushed out, Hey Seneca,
thanks for that advice. Anyway, got a date with a
slave girl tonight, not gonna be not going to be
making my philosopher appointment. Thanks too bad. So sad. The
people who guided Nero are being pushed out by Nero.
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And when you're the freaking Roman emperor, you can push
out whoever you intend to push out. But you do
have these norms. There's a there is a culture in Rome.
And while the Romans would accept a lot of things,
they shouldn't accept a lot of things you shouldn't accept.
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There is one thing that really really well. There who
many things, but there's something that really really graded on
the Romans. That was fratricide, the killing of a family member,
especially your mother. You see, women weren't allowed to really
hold official political power in Rome. But like virtually every
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other society that sounds very patriarchal, the men ruled everything.
That was obviously not totally the case. Women operate in
a different way. They're more they would tend to maneuver
behind the scenes, manipulate things. That's the women wield power
differently than men wield power. Okay, so women were not,
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contrary to what your history book tells you, useless, worthless,
second class citizens who were put upon in Rome. They
didn't have the rights men had. I'm not saying they did.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they did.
But they weren't. These stupid slaves kept in a closet
until they were allowed let out to make dinner and
make babies. It was not that way at all. The
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Romans revered their mothers. You don't harm your mother. Nero,
apparently Chafing was putting it nicely. Decided he wanted his
mother dead, but he didn't want to just murderer. Obviously,
he could just show up at her house with his
praetorian guard stabber to death. He could do that, but
that would look really bad. The Romans would look poorly
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on that end. Even an emperor, it's not just a
president or a senator. Even an emperor has to worry
about public opinion. If the public turns against you, you
probably won't be there long. So what do you do
if you're Nero? Well, again, they could make a movie.
I don't know how this hasn't been made into a
series on HBO or something. Nero decides he's going to
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have his mother drown. If you will, how were you
going to pull something like that off? He has engineers
build for him a sizeable boat, a boat that is
designed to fail and sink once it gets out onto
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the water. This true story. Nero has a little banquet,
Mom is invited one night. Mom, after dark, decides she
wants to go home, back to her separate place, and
she has to cross the river, a very very large river.
This is not a creek. So Mom hops in this
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wonderful new boat her son purchased for her. What a
good boy. And on this boat where a bunch of
people men Nero had bought off to ensure his mother
never made it to the shore. See what I did there, Chris,
to ensure that his mother never made the shore alive.
The boat begins to sail across the water. The boat
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does exactly as what it was designed to do, and
the boat begins to sink beneath the waves. Agrippina, has
she struck you so far as a moron? This is
a very cunning woman. Agrippina very quickly figures out in
the middle of the night, in the middle of the river,
the boat is sinking. This is on purpose. My son's
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trying to kill me. So Agrippina does the most Agrippina
thing ever. She puts her clothes onto her personal attendant,
her personal maid. I've heard the woman described as a slave.
I don't know what she was, but she was someone
there for Agrippina. Agrippina gives her her clothes and says, hey,
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I want you to live, so call out to the
guards and say you're me. The maid starts saying help me.
I'm Agrippina, I'm drowning. Help me. Agrippina slips over the
side of the boat and begins to swim. As her
maid is saying help me, the guys who were on
the boat come down and beat her to death. They
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think they've killed Agrippina, but they have not killed Agrippina.
The boat goes under the water. Agrippina is very much alive.
She is rescued by it. This is the true story.
She's rescued by a fishing vessel. She gets over to
the shore. She gets home. I made it, but Nero's
not gonna let that go. Remember what I just described
about Roman mothers and women in society. Nero says, well,
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the boat thing didn't work, Let's just go with the
sword thing. He has a bunch of men with clubs
and swords and spears show up at her home. After
she lives, they beat her to death. Allegedly. You never
know how much of this is Roman soap opera stuff
and how much of it is real. Allegedly, she told
her attackers, as they were about to land their killing blows,
she pointed to her womb and said, here, stab me,
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here where the monster grew. Talking about Nero. She was
well aware of why she was being beaten to death
in the middle of the night in her home. Well,
now Agrippina is gone now, as evil as she may
have been, really, anybody holding Nero down to any sense
of reality, now these people have been run out of
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his life by Nero. I might want to point that out.
And oh, the terrible stories about Nero. You've heard, many
of them false, but many of them true. Now those
stories are going to play out, if you will, we
will try to wrap up our Nero's story and get
back to do some politics in just a couple moments.
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decided we were gonna do some history just because I
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Sometimes I do. I've told you I'm gonna bring you
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feel like it. I like doing history stuff every now
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and do a little bit more politics before we wrap
things up here. Nero's mother dies, tries to have her drowned.
She manages to survive because she's a wily one. She
ends up getting beaten and stabbed to death by Nero's people. Nero,
really it's got to be the power going to his head. Nero,
understanding this wouldn't look good to the public, tried to
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call it a suicide. But look, we think ancient times,
we think they were less informed than they actually were.
How long do you think until the word got out
of what actually happened. People figured out what happened to
Nero's mom. So remember that popularity Nero has or had,
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It tends to disappear very very quickly in Roman society
when they find out you had your mother beaten to death.
Now that brings us to the Great Fire of Rome.
Old cities. I say, oh, this applies to Chicago when
it burnt up. But older cities were They were tinder
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boxes made to burn, And it's not really the fault
of the people there. Think about this. We were used
to living in a global economy where if I want
to build a house, Let's say I have a bunch
of money and I want to build a special house
for myself. No I'm not building a house, but I
want to build a house out of a certain marble house.
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Maybe I want marble everywhere. Well there's no marble here,
but I could do it. If I had the money
to do it, I could bring in whatever I wanted
to bring in. For most of human history, the world
wasn't as global as it is now, and you build
your structures with what you have what is around you. Rome,
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like virtually every other ancient city was made of wood. Yes,
there was stone and brick and things like that in
the Romans did that stuff very well. But for the
most part, it's a wooden city. When we picture ancient Rome,
we all myself included picture white marble, don't we Everything
was marble. It was probably all glistening white and marble.
This and marble that that is later later Rome. And
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even then even in later Rome that was only special
parts of Rome. Rome was wood. If you got transported
back in time, if I got transported back in time
to the year zero, you know that the year Jesus
was born, you'd probably be kind of disappointed with how
ugly Rome was. I would, we we would. I want
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to tell you right now, I want to picture this
glistening white city. It would not look like that. It
would be smelly, it would be dirty, it would be wooden.
No one knows how the fire starts. The truth is,
no one knows, and no one will ever know. We're
dealing with forensics. Two thousand years ago, a fire starts.
The city is not only made of wood, but the
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streets are extremely narrow, so fire jumps across the street.
What you need to know is entire districts of Rome burnt.
Now here's where we have to do a little history
that might burst your bubble a little bit. On Neiro,
Don't worry if you hate him and think he's the Antichrist,
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you'll go right back to hating him in a minute.
And he really earned a lot of that title. But
Nero did not play the fiddle while Rome burnt. In fact,
Nero couldn't play the fiddle. In fact, Nero wasn't even
in Rome during the fire. Yeah, he was outside of
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the city. It wasn't. That was a myth, that was
It was propaganda that came after the fact to make
Nero even more hated than he already was. I'm not
absolving Nero of anything, but he didn't play the fiddle
while Rome burnt. But Rome did burn, and not a
house or two districts plural burnt. That is devastation, complete
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societal devastation. It would have been palpable everywhere in the city.
The whole place would have smelled like smoke. That it
would have been a discussion of Look right now, Helene,
Helene's going on people looking for relatives. I haven't seen
my grandpa. I haven't heard from my son, so that
it would have been exactly that, in a little bit
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of a different form in Rome, when that much of
the city goes up. My sister was visiting that part.
Has anyone heard from I haven't had a letter from
my brother. It would have been a societal sadness and
anger that would have been palpable. And when people get angry,
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when people have a tremendous loss, this is human nature.
It's your nature, it's my nature. It's oftentimes when we
have to fight against but it is our nature. We
need something or someone to blame, we will blame something
or someone. You see in modern days, you see the
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communists take advantage of this all the time. When there's
a school shooting, We're sad. Oh my gosh, the kids.
I'm sad. I'm so sad. This is horrible. I'm sad,
I'm angry. And that's why the communist has learned to
run to the TV cameras and say, look, it's the guns.
Look at the gun, Republicans, it's guns. Republicans. Be mad.
Here's where you focus your anger. Look at them. That's
where your anger should go. It's a play on human
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nature when we get sad. When we get angry, we
want to blame someone or something. Here you are, Nero.
It wasn't your fault. You weren't in the city, you
weren't playing the fiddle. But the Romans are already angry
at you for your mother dying. Now districts have burnt
under your watch. If you're Nero, you have a problem.
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How do you solve it? Next? What?
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All right, let's try to finish up this story of Nero.
Nero was already losing popularity. His mother died. Then Rome
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catches fire, Rome burns. He wasn't playing the fiddle, He
wasn't even in Rome. But the people were angry that
people were sad. Who is responsible for this? Nero? He
tries to capitalize on something, but he blows it. He
gives the people a Patsy. He gives them someone to blame.
He blames the Christian Remember we already described Roman society
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how Christians were. They were really outcasts at this time
that it was thought of as a cult. Their beliefs,
they think, they think their God is above the emperor.
So they were already kind of second class citizens. People
were more inclined to believe bad things about Christians in
Jews in Roman society back then, because they had separated themselves.
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Nero smartly, this is one of the smart things he
didn't even though was freaking evil and wrong. Nero smartly said, Uh,
it's the Christians who set the fire. That weird cult
always talking about this Jesus guy, that's who did it.
That was no, we'll come back to the persecution in
a moment. That was the smart side of it, the
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bad side of it, or the dumb side of It's this.
He actually starts to do a good job rebuilding the city,
and he rebuilds Rome in a pretty wonderful way. The
parts he read, remember the streets that were too narrow.
He widens out the streets. He does it right. He
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builds the districts back better. He builds back better. Hah.
He does it right, though, he does it right, except
he can't help himself. He does all this, and then
he builds for himself a massive palace and puts a
huge statue of himself on top of the palace. You
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had the people's goodwill, you were getting it back, and
you had to do something else for yourself. At the
same time, people were happy to go along with the
blaming of the Christians, but I don't know that they
really truly understood what they were signing up for. They
used to feed Christians to the wild animals. Nero used
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to throw these massive garden parties the senators and wives
and high society type. He threw garden parties after this,
and he had Christians burnt alive to light up the
garden parties. Burning Christians served as lamps for the garden parties.
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Even if you're a Roman senator who hates Christians, maybe
you think they're horrible, they're terrible, Maybe you even believe
him and you blame them for the fire. Even if
all those things are true, when you find yourself in
a garden party trying to eat or dervs right next
to a Christians who's burning alive, and screaming. You tend
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to look around and ask yourself if you're on the
right side of things. Nero, he takes it way too far.
He starts to have political opponents who are raising their
objections to him and his ways. He starts to have
them arrested. He starts to have show trials, secret trials.
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Corruption come right back as Nero goes on to execute
his enemies. He puts them on trial. And now once
you start doing that, plots begin to form to assassinate him.
He then takes this was probably the final step that
finished him off. He had a wife. She was pregnant.
Again in Roman society, that's a sacred good thing. He
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kicks her to death, loses her in the baby. The
dude is a psychopath and a demon and a monster.
He not only kicks her to death to just give
you some window into his mind. He has her stuffed
embalmed like she's a deer, and he goes and visits her.
He then has a boy. Uh, I don't know how
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I can describe this. There are children listening. He has
a boy. He misses his wife, so he finds a
boy and has some surgery performed on the boy. Anyway,
the boy had to pretend to be his wife for
a while. Yeah, this guy's not doing well at all.
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He's now reviled at home. And so tell me if
any of this sounds familiar. The people domestically hate his
guts so badly for the things that he's done and
the things he's done to them. He chooses to go
on foreign trips, and he's beloved overseas. Of course, he
goes overseas, he puts on games and banquets for them.
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He hands out money, tremendous amounts of money from the
Roman treasury. Money's stolen from the Roman citizen, and he
lavishes it on foreign countries. And he's beloved overseas, except
he's not minding the store back home. Eventually, a rebellion
begins in the provinces. Rome had different provinces governor. One
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governor starts rebelling, another governor starts rebelling, and soon Nero
begins to sniff way too many plots against him. He
feels like his end might be near, but at least
he has the Petorian Guard, right. It's tough to kill
an emperor when the emperor is surrounded by men with
shields and spears and armor, and when they're the only
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ones with that stuff, the emperor's awfully safe. So picture
this one of the great moments in history. When you
picture it, you're an emperor, you're Nero. You're in a palace.
No matter what you do, no matter where you go,
there are people there to wait on you and protect
you hand and foot. If you're a Nero and you
get up in the middle of the night and you
f top, there will be a slave and probably a servant,
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and probably a guard in the bathroom with you. Hey,
you want some olives with that? That's the way your
life is. Everywhere. There's security everywhere. There are slaves everywhere,
there are servants. There are people surrounding you all times.
After all, your thought of as a god made man.
Nero wakes up. The palace is empty. This is a
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human being who's used to people around him all the time.
Where are the servants, Where are the guards? He starts
to call out to people. The entire palace is empty.
There's no one there. Everyone left when he went to sleep.
There's no one there but Nero. Nero begins to whine,
that's what the rumors say. Wine beg cry where is everyone.
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Nero figures out, I'm going to die tonight. There's only
one reason they would have emptied out the palace. It's
because they're gonna kill me. Nero hops on a horse
I assume may have been a carriage, hops on something
with fore legs, and takes off ends up in a
tiny villa. The Romans are now hunting him to finish
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him off. Nero fancied himself a musician, and so the
rumor is that he said something along the lines of
what an artist is about to die about himself, what
an artist is about to die? Here's the Roman soldiers.
They finally track him down. They start to close in
on him. He looks at the slaves he brought with him,
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begs them, begs them to finish him off. None of
them will do so they're all too afraid. As the
soldiers are kicking down the door, Nero takes a dagger
stabs himself in the throat. The soldiers come in to
see Nero bleeding to death, and he allegedly again allegedly
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you never know, looks at them and says you're too late,
and he bleeds out and dies on the ground. That
is the story of Nero, and that is an excellent
example of how badly power screws you up, how bad
politics can truly get, even in a civilized country. Remember,
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for hundreds and hundreds of years before this, the Romans
had convinced themselves that they were above all those barbarians,
with all their political violence and death and murder and
all the intrigue. They were above all those things. And
then as their leaders rotted above them, they saw what
happens to a society when it rocks too much. Nero
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is a wonderful example for a lot of different reasons.
You can use his mother, you can use Roman society.
I just think it's an incredible story and one that
probably should be known by a lot of people. And
that is a little history for you. Now, let's do
a little bit more politics, and then we'll check out
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this is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse
Kelly Show. Final segment of The Jesse Kelly Show on
a Wednesday, on a hump day. I hope you have
put a smile on your face. Now. I want to
do just a little bit of a rewind before we
check out here and make fun of the second gentleman again,
(29:05):
do you remember you remember, I think it was last
week when we were talking about Doug m Hoff and
this is after it came out the Doug m Off
had slapped around. Well, remember when I said this, what
a feminist, what a champion of women? Doug m Hoff,
this is from Red State, told former girlfriend he'd paid
eighty thousand dollars in hush money to a nanny he impregnated,
(29:29):
and he made her sign an NDA. He knocked up
his kid's tutor, got a divorce for it, paid her
eighty g's and made her sign an NDA to not
tell anyone that kid's his. And that's why he spends
a lot of time on the news talking about what
a champion of women he is. Ladies, gentlemen, you anti
(29:53):
communists who are listening, and even you dirty comedies who
hate listen all the time. Allow me to tell you
one thing that is true about ninety nine point nine
to nine percent of the time. If there is a
male feminist who gets a little too loud about what
a male feminist he is, that is a male feminist
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who's done some dark things to women in his past.
That is true almost every time. Just like the Mark
Cubans of the world who get a little too. I
love democrats have something dark in there for some reason.
Same thing with male feminists. That's how that works. Exclusive
(30:37):
Kamala Harris' husband, Doug Mhoff, faces explosive new allegations from
his time at a top la law firm. Now, I'm
not gonna go through all the specific allegations. There's a
lot of stuff in here that honestly just sounds like
dudes at work. There are accusations like, quote, he yelled expletives.
(31:00):
That's part of it. Okay, there are you guys, a
bunch of children. I hear that stuff all the time.
Another allegation is he held a men only cocktail hour. Well,
how else are you supposed to have a conversation? You
have to have a male only again, so a lot
of these things are this. But he also revoked work
perks from women who didn't flirt with him. He took
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only young attractive associates in a limousine to a ball.
Apparently there's a lawsuit claiming discrimination, harassment, all kinds of things.
Once again, a reminder to everyone, the second you hear
a man in any setting talking like this, your red
flags should be waving so fast you can't see anything
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being second, gentlemen, changed your own view of perceived gender
roles of what it means to be a.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Man's This is something I've thought about a lot and
something I've spoken about a lot.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
There's too much of toxicity. It's masculine.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Too much toxicity, says the guy with his secretary on
his lap in the back of a limousine on the
way to an LA ball after male only cocktail.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Out and toxicity out there, and we've kind of confused
what it means to be a man, what it means
to be masculine.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Where you've got this trope out there that you've.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Got to be tough and angry and lash out to
be strong.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's just the opposite. You know. Strength is how you
show your love.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Ah, we know you don't have to lash out, Doug,
just give her another back cave for people.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
Strength is how you are for people and how you
have their back, and how you stick up for other
people and pushing up.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
You already told her once. Don't make me pull out
a left and tell her.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
To washing out against bullies. I mean, that's what I
believe it is.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
So every time I can speak against this toxicity. We're
seeing it with our younger people. We're seeing it in
our discourse and our politics and the media. You're seeing
it as it relates to so many of the issues
that we're pushing back on.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Like I said, even if you are a feminist, which
I don't know why you'd want to be that, but
even if you are a feminist, as soon as you
hear a man talking like that, there's a reason. And
it's not because she loves women so much. I promise
you that. And now he's a headline. Why, oh, you
know the thing headlines we didn't get to. Dems claim
(33:34):
public schools mostly run by Dems are racists. Well, this
all comes back to what we talked about before. The
communist he wants control of everything. He doesn't want control
of most things. When he looks at the public school system,
he sees a couple islands that are still unconquered. You
look at the public school system and you're mortified by
(33:55):
how much of it is under communist control. He's mortified
that any of it has escaped his control. Just go,
Floridians told to get moving as Hurricane Milton closes in
obviously that is something happening as we speak. Say a
prayer for the people of Florida. If you are listening
to the sound of my voice, we are praying for you.
(34:15):
We are rooting for you. You are going to be fine.
Don't panic. Use your head, all right. Report government sends
electric chainsaws to Appalachian town without power. Look, I'm all
on board with some modern technology, and I'm okay with
some electric tools. I actually have a battery powered driver
and a couple battery powered things at home. Battery powered
(34:37):
chainsaw that just doesn't sound right at all. If I'm
gonna cut my leg off, I want to do it
with fuel. Major US water company hit by a cyber attack.
I do the best I can to not think about
all the parts, the critical parts of our society that
are tied to the Internet and tied to computers, because
there are some very dangerous hackers out there who can
(34:59):
do some very dangerous things. Stolen Vienna sausages lead a
Georgia nursing home resident being to being stabbed in the chest.
Look you take my Vienna sausages, it's on pal I
will stab you in the chest. California faces waves of
lawsuits over gender identity notification in schools. I love that
we're being more litigious. What Chris Voter registration group giving
(35:23):
away Taylor Swift tickets is led by Eric Adams Operative
who was convicted of voter fraud. Just half of the
Democrat efforts in this country are various ways they can
just do things against the law in order to electioneer
and win elections. They just it really is this all
encompassing crime empire they have. It's amazing. Resistance is justified.
(35:49):
Columbia students celebrate October seventh as pro Hamas demonstration turns
violent in New York City. No way Hamas violent. That's crazy. Anyway,
Tomorrow is going to be an awesome day too. You
can email us, you can leave us a voicemail. Maybe
we'll even let you call tomorrow. That's all
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