September 11, 2024 • 46 mins
(Full Show) The debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump is officially in the books. Who won? One thing is for sure, the moderators were the big losers. Jesse Kelly gives his debate takeaways and gets more reaction from Megyn Kelly, who has gone viral for her comments on her own YouTube channel. Jesse also hears from Brittany Mayer and Sean Parnell. Plus, a sobering reflection on the September 11th attacks of 23 years ago.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Debate Takeaways with Me, with Megan Kelly, with Brittany Mayer.
We talked about nine to eleven. Sean Parnell is here.
It's a big night tonight, and I'm right, okay, I'm
sure you've spent the day consuming post debate analysis Trump
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took on Dome last night, and so I'm just going
to lay it out for you. Don't really care if
you're offended by what I'm about to say. We have
to be honest about some things. So here we go.
It wasn't a good night. I'll get to the reasons
why in a moment. There is a silver lining at
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the end of this if you want to hang on.
But it wasn't a good night. It wasn't a good night.
And I understand what everyone, myself included, is screaming today.
I understand everyone is screaming today about the moderators, moderators, this,
moderators that, And yes, of course the moderators were awful.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
They have abortion in the ninth month.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Man and Vice President want to get your response to
President Trump. Well, as I said, you're going to hear
a bunch of lies in Springfield.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
eating the cats.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABCDWS did reach out to the city manager there.
He told us there have been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Let me say, okay, yes, the moderators were horribly bad.
David Murror, Lindsey Lip injections. They went all in, and
we knew they would. We talked about this a little
bit yesterday. Dome. She was falling in the polls before this,
doing well. The betting odds were all going in Trump's favor.
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He was the one looking strong. She was the one
who needed to have a good performance at this debate.
She could not get up there and be ahaha, ditzy
airhead that she normally is. It would have sunk her campaign.
ABC and those two filthy communists who moderated it, they
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knew that. Did they slipper the questions? Of course they did.
Did they decide to go all in and burn down
what tiny bit of credibility they may have had left. Yes,
of course they did. All those things are true. But
it was not a great night for us. It wasn't disastrous.
It wasn't the end of the world. Again. I'll get
to that in a moment. But it was a bad
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night for us. And this goes way beyond Donald Trump's
performance last night. This is a lesson for you, for me,
for everyone watching running for office, who has run for office,
might run for office. You need to remember this now
and always, always, always fight your battle on your battlefield.
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There are endless military books and proverbs and sayings that
have been written about exactly this. You choose your battlefield.
If I am a boxer and you are a wrestler
and we get in a fight, you want to go
to the ground, you should not stand and box with me.
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I want to stand up. I want to keep it
off the ground because I don't want to wrestle with you.
And if I'm able to stand up, I will win.
If you're able to get it to the ground, you
will win. The one who decides what the subject is,
the one who chooses the battle during the debate, will
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be the winner of the debate. And what blows me away,
what may be so mad as I watched this horrible
performance last night from Donald Trump. What blows me away
is Trump knows how to do that. He knows how
to stay on message and choose his battle. Do you
remember the first debate with Joe Biden, January sixth came up,
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and but before I play it, Before I play it,
remember that these debates aren't for you or me. I
know I'm already voting for Trump. I know who I'm
voting for. The debates are not for you, They're not
for me. These debates are for the norms, the normans
that I really know I don't find of politics. It's
for those people. And as passionate as I am about
January sixth, the evil things the government did on that
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day and has done to those political prisoners ever since,
the evil things they're doing to Trump, I'm passionate about
January sixth, I am. The average American voter doesn't want
to hear about it, doesn't want to talk about it.
They don't they don't care. And if you talk about it,
you're losing. Donald Trump knew this in the first debate.
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Jake Tapper, of course, throws some loaded question at Donald
Trump about January sixth. Do you want to see a
master class at you choosing what you want to talk about.
Look at the first version of Trump as president.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect, and defend
unquote the Constitution. What do you say to voters who
believe that you violated that oath through your actions and
inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, I don't think you many believe that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And let me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth,
we had a great border, nobody coming through, very few.
On January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth,
we had the lowest taxes ever, We had the lowest
regulations ever. On January sixth, we were respected all over
the world. All over the world, we were respected. And
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then he comes in and we're now left that we're
like a bunch of stupid people. That what happened to
the United States's reputation under this man's leadership is horrible,
including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be
talking about where he goes after his political opponent because
he can't beat him fair and square.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh my gosh, just hang that in a museum somewhere.
That's Donald Trump painting a masterpiece on how to debate,
how to stay on your message, ignore their bad framing,
you talk about what you want, you stay on. It
was perfect. It was perfect. I stood up in my
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house as I was watching that, and I cheered. I
stood up and cheered. It was that good. Now I
know Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential debate. Apparently
that version of Donald Trump did too, because here was
the same question from last night, and here's how he
answered it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Mister President, on January sixth, you told your supporters to
march to the Capitol. You said you would be right
there with them. The country in the world saw what
played out of the Capitol that day, the officers coming
under attack. Aids in the West Wings say you watched
it unfold on television off the Oval office. You did
send out tweets, but it was more than two hours
before you sent out that video message telling your supporters
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to go home. Is there anything you regret about what
you did on that day?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on, peacefully and
patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley
Babbitt was shot by an out of control police officer
that should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace,
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but we didn't do this group of people that have
been treated so badly. I ask, what about all the
people that are pouring into our country and killing people
that she allowed to port it? She was the boorders are?
Remember that she was the borders are?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What was that taking the bait? Taking the bait playing defense.
Kamala Harris and the debate moderators, they're one and the same.
They came into that debate knowing how to get under
Donald Trump's skin if he was to allow them. Remember,
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you decide if you're offended or not. I don't decide,
so why I tell you all the time, I don't
care if you're offended. I don't care if you're offended
right now, that's a the choice you've made. I haven't
made it. You decide your emotional response to the things
that are said to you Donald Trump. In the first debate,
they let all that stuff bounce right off nothing. Last night,
Kamala Harris and her team very clearly came in with
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a plan to bait Donald Trump, get him off message
and get him playing defense. At one point in time,
they had Donald Trump fact checking them about just how
many hundreds of millions of dollars his father left them.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I grew up a middle class kid, raised by a
hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to
buy our first home when I was a teenager. The
values I bring to the importance of home ownership, knowing
not everybody got handed four hundred million dollars on a
silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a
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value that I bring to my work to say we
are going to work with the private sector and home
builders to increase three million homes, increase buy three million
homes by the end of my first term.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, first of all, I wasn't given four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I wish I was. My father was a.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Brooklyn build at Brooklyn Queens and a great father, and
I learned a lot from him. But I was given
a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and have built
it into many many billions of dollars, many many billions,
and when people see it they are even surprised. So
we don't have to talk about that fracking she's been
against it for twelve years.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
People don't care. They can't afford eggs. People who are
watching the American Dream disappear in front of their eyes.
They don't want to hear you talk about your inheritance.
It was a bad performance. It's terrible. It's the worst
I've ever seen him do, and juxtaposed that with Dome,
it's the best I've ever seen her do. I don't Yeah,
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I know she lied the whole time. I understand that
she lied the whole time. Came off as nervous in
the beginning. She came in there, she didn't look like
the ditsy queen she actually is, which is a win
for them. She was on message, got him playing defense
most of the night. I will say this, it took
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him too long to get warmed up. By now, most
people had turned it off. But towards the end, Trump
was getting much better about getting on message, getting his
points across.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
To do all these wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Why hasn't she done it. She's been there for three
and a half year years, they've had three and a
half years to fix the border. They've had three and
a half years to create jobs and all the things
we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should
leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House,
go to the Capitol, get everyone together, and do the
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things you want to do. But you haven't done it,
and you won't do it because you believe in things
that the American people don't believe in. You believe in
things like we're not going to frack, we're not going
to take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things
that are going to make this country strong, whether you
like it or not. We can't sacrifice our country for
the sake of bad vision. But I just ask one
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simple question, why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation.
We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being laughed
at all over the world. All over the world they laugh.
I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me,
they call me. We're laughed at all over the world.
We're going to end up in a third World war,
and it'll be a warlike no other because of nuclear weapons,
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the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military. She
gave a lot of it away to the Taliban, She
gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done to
our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions
of people to come into our country. Many of them
are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president,
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the worst vice president in the history of our country.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That was awesome. That should have been the opening statement.
You had three and a half years, Why haven't you
done it? It should have been every answer you had
three and a half years. Why why haven't you done it?
You had three and a half years, Why haven't you
done it? That was excellent, though it took a while
to get warmed up. Now before we get to Megan
Kelly and her savaging of the moderators, allow me to
throw this silver lining in all this. It was a
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bad night, No question, was bad night, all right. If
you pay attention at all to the various focus groups
they from these debates, they'll find groups of undecided voters.
Tons of people do this now. Undecided voters were not
blown away by Kamala Harris's performance. They didn't think Donald
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Trump did well, they didn't think she did well. They
were very aware of how biased. The moderators were. So
the silver lining is maybe the American people, even the
norms and normas out there, understand a rigged debate when
they see one. And this really won't affect much. And
I don't think it will. It's now about blocking and tackling.
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The debate's over, dig In, go win the presidency all
right now. Megan Kelly wasn't too happy about the moderators.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I'm ashamed of those moderators at ABC News. They did
exactly what their bosses.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Wanted them to do. It was three against one.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
It's very easy to look like you know what you're
doing when both moderate are entirely on your side.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, hard to argue with any of that. Nor would
I argue with Megan Kelly about something like that anyway,
She'd probably kill me. Joining me now. Megan Kelly, journalist,
host to The Megan Kelly Show, which is amazing serious
sexem Triumph Channel one to eleven every weekday at noon
Eastern time. Megan Okay, So, David Muir and Lindsey Lip injections,
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they carried Kamala Harris through the debate. We knew they
were going to carry her through the debate. They went
all in and they just they just looked Credibility obviously
wasn't a concern. They were going all in trying to
win an election. It was obvious.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh, I have so many feelings about it.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I'm actually really looking forward to hearing how you're feeling too,
because I'm angry. I'm kind of down about it. I
feel just depressed about what happened last night.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Frustrated.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I realized that what you and I are doing in
our independent lane is the answer and the to this
terrible thing that's happened to the profession of journalism. But
right now there's a presidential election to win, and we
have these very powerful forces working to undermine one candidate
in a way I've never seen before.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Jesse. This is I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Sixteen was bad, but I think there was still at
least the semblance of we want to remain respectable and
be perceived by some people as objective.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And it's gone.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
It's gone, and yet they still have a fair amount
of power, these two out there.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I mean, it's smart.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
He was wearing that blue and she had on that
sort of bluish gray top, because that's who they are.
They wore their team colors and they were there on
a mission.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
And I don't care.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
How stodgy and stiff David Mrror makes his face. He
was as bent as they come when it comes to
his bias and this race going into who the hell
watches ABC World News to I mean that really, honestly,
it's mostly for octogenarians.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I don't watch that, but none of us watches this.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
But I saw the Media Research Center report saying that
they're the most biased of the three. They're most biased
out NBC and CBS as well. Almost it was something
like ninety two or ninety three percent positive stories for
Kamala Harris, ninety seven percent negative for Donald Trump. That's
shocking even to me. And last night we saw that
on full display. No Republican should ever agree to go
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on this channel for a presidential debate ever.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Again, So why do they, Megan, because you're on hundred
percent right with all that. Why do we do this
every time? Why is this? What is this Republican need
where they feel obligated to walk into the lions Den
every time? And I'm not here saying that I should
be moderating one of these debates. I'm a complete biased
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partisan human being. I shouldn't be moderating it either. But
why do Republicans feel like they have to accept the
ABC debate and they just have to accept whatever a
couple comedies they happen to roll out there. I don't
understand this way of thinking.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Why a habit. It's just habit. That's the way it's
always been, and that's the way they're used to operating.
They don't really see another choice. And on the subject
of bias, you actually could do it, Jesse's you're not
required to be unbiased to host a presidential debate. It's fine.
I can guarantee you. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash hate
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Donald Trump, but they did a good job at that
June debate. You could not see their hatred or their bias.
That's fine that we can't ask for more than that
from journalists. They're entitled to have opinions about the news
that they cover and the subjects they cover. They're just
not entitled to share it in the context of their interviews,
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their town halls, or their big presidential debates. That's what
we're asking of them. It's not too high a bar.
Be fair, be equally tough on both sides. That's why
I feel like I could do this. I can't stand
Kamala Harris. I really hope she loses. But if you
were to watch me moderate a debate between these two,
you would not see me be any harder on her
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than I would be on Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And I have a record that reflects that.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
They won't do it because their politics are everything to them,
so they refuse to check their bias. They all sit
around in these rooms. I've been in them where they
don't even see the bias. They think this is just
what's dignified, what's required to be a big jay journalist
who went to one of these, you know whatever schools.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
So it's group think.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
But on the Republican side, they need to understand that
we're in a.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
New ecosphere now.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
And if I were Trump and I really wanted to
do another debate, I don't know whether he's feeling that
or not. Doesn't sound like it, I would say, I'll
do it one of two ways. Either it's just the
two of us, or we just know there is no moderator,
or I pick one moderator and you pick the other
and then we go. You know, and you could you
could drip brains from and how you want to do that.
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He wants to pick somebody who would just cross examine her,
and she wants to pick somebody who would just cross
examine him, or he wants to pick the person who
asked him quite whatever. But the current system is not working.
It's not working for Republicans only, and therefore it must
be thrown out and we have to start again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Megan, I'm just I want to wrap up with this.
How do you think he did? I thought that was
one of the worst debate performances I've seen from him.
His first debate. He was so on message. Didn't walk
into these bear traps. They were obviously setting for him,
and he walked into them routine. The last night, he's
talking about Project twenty twenty five, he's talking about the
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exact amount of inheritance. He got it. It was it
seemed like they walked in with the plan to bait him,
and it worked.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
It true, he took debait on everything.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I mean, it's like me on the sidelawn with my
dog's Drudwick just to throw throw the liver snap and
he will it no matter where I throw it.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
That was a.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Mistake, But I will say I felt sorry for him.
I mean I felt sorry for him because he was
in a fox hole and there were three people shooting
down at him, and it's a very tough situation to
get yourself out of him. And I think he did
the best he can. He did the best he's capable
of at this point. Could somebody else have done better?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I think jad Vance probably if he had been in
that situation and he will be soon, he could have
done better. But I really had I had sympathy for
Trump because what a difficult situation when all three of
them are piling on and there is no lifeline anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah. I tend to agree with you on that. I
said that was the last one, but this one is
does it matter? I know that it's not nothing. The
first presidential debate is something people do watch it, they
make decisions on it. But does it matter that much?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
And I don't think this is going to change the
election results, or maybe not even the poll results. Maybe
a couple of days we get some polling bounds for her,
but I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I think people are pretty dug in.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
You'd need a huge momentum shifter in order to really
affect the polls.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
That's not what happened on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Megan, you are the best. Come back soon, all right,
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Speaker 4 (22:17):
He is more interested in defending himself than he is
in looking out for you.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's just a sound good.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They gave her that to say to Washington, DC and
let her sign a bill to close up the border,
because they have.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
The right to do it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They don't need bills. They have the right to do it.
The president of the United States. You'll get them out
of bed. You'll wake them up at four o'clock in
the afternoon. You'll say, come on, come on down to
the office, let's sign a bill. She gave up at
least twelve and probably fourteen or fifteen different policies, like
she was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She
went out, I'm talking now, if you don't mind, please
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does that sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, Trump did have some good moments last I had
some zingers out there overall. You know my thoughts on it.
I already told you, But I wonder to know what
Britney's thoughts are. Joining me now, Independent reporter, founder of
Rooted Wings, friend of the show, Britney Mayer joins us. Okay, Brittany,
everyone knows my thoughts by now. I thought it was
a terrible night. In the end, I don't know that
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it will matter. I think we rebound and block and
tackle from here. But I thought it was awful. He
was on defense all night. What'd you see?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, definitely on defense. Hey, But here's my overall perspective
and takeaway is what we saw last night is it
is the establishment machine again propping up their candidate, and
in that the loser is the American people. So I
actually think that it was a win when you look
at it that way, because once again we see Donald
Trump as being anti establishment. He is not held up
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and propped up by the establishment machine. It was three
versus one all night long long. So in that perspective,
I actually think that Donald Trump came out very strong.
Of course, he had to be on defense because the
machine has after him four years. And I think the
American people are going to take that away and see
it as they relate to Donald Trump. Kamala Harris is
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a career politician. She is not relatable, and she's now
being used and propped up as the media darling by
the machine, and I think that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Okay, So the night wasn't a complete disaster for Dome
the way I assumed it was because she's such a
ditsy airhead. She was obviously prepared with the questions I'm
sure ahead of time in speeches, but she still has
to get back out there and as you just pointed out,
relate to people. Now, do you even bother with another
debate if you're Trump or if you're her, who wants one?
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Who doesn't want one?
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Look, I think that Trump shines when he is doing
those long form interviews that he was doing. He did
one with Aiden, he had another one with Sean Ryan.
Those speak to the heart of the American people. I
think the debates were past the point of needing debates
to prove which candidate is. The media is darling. We
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know that they are going to embrace Kamala and prop
her up because she is the machines pet. I think
that Trump shines in the long form interviews that Kamala
can't do. So I would encourage Trump to continue with that,
continue with his rallies that people do show up for
and do stay for. I think that really does speak
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to the heart of the American people. And another takeaway
that I had that I just want to touch on
that I think is really important is after this debate
is said and done next week, people aren't going to
still be talking about this debate. It was not memorable,
but what people are going to remember and feel the
average American when they go get groceries, that they can't
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afford groceries, that their rent is tripled or quadrupled, that
they can't get insurance because his rates are out of touch.
And I think that that on those issues alone, Trump dominates,
and they will remember that. At the end of the debate,
Trump said, it's been three and a half years of this.
You want three and a half more years? Do you
want four more years of this? And the average American
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knows that they don't feel safe, they don't feel like
they can afford America, they don't feel like this is
America anymore. And I think that that's where Trump needs
to stay focused.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
How do you think he handled the whole abortion thing? Now,
I disagree with Trump and his stance on the issue,
but that's not important. That debate wasn't for me. It
was for all the normy people who don't know who
they're voting for. I actually thought he handled that fairly well,
pointing out their radicalism because they're a bunch of demonic
baby murderers.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Yes, and I think he could have gone in even
heavier on that. I was on the edge of my
seat hoping that he was going to pull up her receipts,
and he didn't. But Harris's receipts on abortion as a
senator in California are diabolical. I don't know if you
know this, Jesse, but Harris has voted against the efforts
to protect babies born alive in California not once, but twice.
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And she also voted against an act that would have
set limitations on pain capable unborn child protections. So she
is one hundred percent a monster when it comes to
our unborn, and I wish that Trump would have laid
into that even heavier. You know, we talk about the
pets being eaten by the Haitians out in Springfield, but
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the reality is that if Kamala and Wallas get in,
we are going to witness the diabolical murdering of the
unborn unlike we've ever ever seen it in this country.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, speaking of that comment the pets being eaten, I
actually didn't like it, and it's not because it wasn't accurate.
It obviously is accurate, as hard as they're trying to
cover it up. It was kind of disconnected. Why are
didn't people like you are going to know exactly what
he was referring to. But again, the undecided norm watching
just knows he drops some weird line about dogs being eaten.
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I don't think it was articulated that well.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Yeah, I agree. I think what he could have done
is he could have said, you know, done his little
trump ism where he says, you know, the pets, maybe
they're getting eaten in Springfield, maybe they're not. Maybe ducks
are being pulled out of the pond, maybe they're not,
but what we do know, And then he could have
gone into all the data we have about the safety
issues because we have an open border that we have
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seen Americans killed by illegal foreigners. They're actually in Springfield, Ohio,
there was an eleven year old boy that was killed
by a Haitian illegal foreigner. And I think that he
could have directed it, you know, touch on the pet
situation and the ducks being pulled out of the ponds,
but then redirect America's attention to the fact that we
live in an unsafe country right now because of Harris's
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policy on the border. And he should have stuck there
and landed there. But that's what leads me back to say,
I think that the average American knows that and so
next week, when this debate is forgotten, people are going
to still feel unsafe. I know that Kamala is not
coming to rescue them.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
One thing that stuck out to my wife that I noticed,
but it didn't stick out to me the way it
stuck out to her. Maybe it's just a gender thing.
Was that handshake in the beginning here it was for
those who forgot it.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Kamala Harris, so good to ba. Thank it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. It's
an honor to have you both here tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Good evening we are looking for.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It was so weird. Did you make anything out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:39):
I don't think he wanted to shake her hand, and
I think she kind of forced herself upon him. I mean, look,
she's all the way over at his podium, which is
clearly larger than hers because ABC had to manipulate the
optics to make it look like they're the same size.
I mean, what a joke. I wouldn't want to shake
her hand either. I think that we are past a
point in America where we have to play by all
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these standard optic rules. You know, Kamala Harris has been
a massive part of destroying our nation. I don't think
she's due a handshake. I don't think there's anything gentlemanly
about extending your hand to someone who is at the
helm of the ship creating an incredibly unsafe country for
our children. So that was my takeaway. I actually I
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liked that Trump was hesitant and then he did he
shook her hand. But I liked that he forced her
hand literally in that first take.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Brittany, thank you. I appreciate you. All Right, we have
little September eleventh reflection. It is that terrible anniversary today,
and we'll do that in just a moment. So let's look,
let's talk about something the corporate world. We're all mad
at ABC today, but this is something that's taken place,
especially over the last ten fifteen years. The corporate world
(30:55):
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commercials anymore, and we need to defund them, meaning we
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Go to pure talk dot com slash Jesse TB. We'll
be back all right. It is the anniversary of September eleventh.
Today everyone has their story, while everyone who's old enough
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has their story about where they were what they were doing.
I know I've told you this before, but I thought
it would be appropriate to just take a minute tell
you where I was. I was in the Marines, already
very young marine. I'd been in for about a year.
I wasn't one of those super patriots who joined afterward.
And we'd gotten up that morning we went and did
PTE Exercise Marine Corps. So we've been on this long
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run and all kinds of things. And we had just
finished this long run and we were in front of
our barracks and we're just doing some stretching things like that,
and they told us, hey, get up to your room
now and turn on the TV. Not exactly a normal order.
You get go watch television. Okay, something big must be
going on. So we all scampered up to the barracks.
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We're all sweaty, covered in sand and everything else, and
open up the door. We get into our barracks rooms
and there was like ten to fifteen of us pout
in one room. Guys were powered in the different rooms.
We turned on the television and one of the towers
had been hit. And remember we had been out pteing,
so we were all confused. My first thought, and this
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was it was the main thought in the room, was
did some drunk flyplane in the tower on accident? How
do you hit a tower on accident? We didn't, We
didn't know. We just had no idea. But we're watching,
we're watching, we're watching, and this is all live. I
think it was CNN, and we watched live as a
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second plane hit the second tower. And now obviously we
know we're not stupid, we know this is an attack
on the country, and we're mad. We're mad, but it
wasn't white hot anger. Yet, it wasn't mad. They start balls.
Who do they think they are? And we're still watching,
And then the towers came down, and everybody watching, every
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marine in the room knew what that meant. We knew
how many people had just lost their lives, how many
innocent civilians had lost their lives. And I'm not a
big crier, It's not who I am. I don't not
that way. But I had tears of rage pouring down
my face that day. And I will tell you I
was not alone in that room. We all wanted to
go kill somebody. Just me being very honest, We were
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all ready to go kill everybody. Really, That's how we
felt about today. And I recently had a chance go
to New York City and see the Nine to eleven
Memorial Museum. If you're ever in New York City, do it.
There are some things that I just feel like every
American should do. If you get the chance, do it.
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Go walk through that and remember it's a day you
should always remember. It's a day I'll never forget. All right,
That's all. I just wanted to share my story, talk
to Sean Parnell, his story and everything about that. In
just the moment, let me talk to you about this
really quickly talk to you about getting a good night's sleep.
Last night was debate night didn't go great at the
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end of the world, but didn't go great, So maybe
you had trouble sleeping. I'll tell you. I thought I
was going to have trouble sleeping. So the second the
debate ended, I did my YouTube live thing and I
was sipping on a little cup of dream powder hot
chocolate as I was doing it, because it's natural things
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Speaker 5 (35:46):
Our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom
came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly
terrorist acts.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
None of us will ever forget this day.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that
is good and just in our world.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I remember it, and I remember it all. One of
those things. If you're of a certain age, you remember it,
remember where you were, You remember what happened afterwards? Joining
me now my friend host of battle Ground Live, which
I would highly recommend you watch, Sean Parnell, also a
combat veteran. Okay, Sean, my story, I've already told it.
(36:28):
Everyone knows mine on this show September eleventh. Where were you?
What were you doing? The floor's yours? Tell us about it.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
I was a sophomore in college at a small university
in western Pennsylvania. We had just had a big party
the night before, and at that party, Jesse I had
a conversation with my buddies about how our generation never
really had an inflection point or a moment that defined
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who we were. And then I remember waking up on
this rundown college couch the next day and you know,
blinked my eyes open and the world was spinning, had
to hangover of a lifetime, and all around me were
Iron City beer cans and Crush cigarette butts, and I
remember staggering over to the television set and turning it
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on and watching it flicker to life, just in time
to see an airplane crash into the World Trade Center,
and in that moment, just like anybody else who lived
through nine to eleven, I feel like I was shaken
to my core. I was angry. I was also afraid.
I watched people tumble from those towers and land on
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the sidewalk on live television, watch people stumble out of
that wreckage, you know, covered in thick gray soot. Only
thing you could see were bloodshot eyes and a thousand
yards stare. I think what affected me the most that day, Jesse,
and what inspired me to eventually join the military, was
how our first responders responded, and that was, instead of
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running away from the flames, I watched one first responder
after the next run headlong into them. And as you know,
and as the American people know, anyone who lived through
that day knows, many of those first responders who stormed
into the flames that day and ran up those steps
to try to save people that they'd never met before,
and an act of selflessness that I'd never witnessed in
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my lifetime up until that very moment. Many of those
people never emerged from those flames again. And Jesse, I
was a kid back then, didn't have good grades, it
was probably drinking too much, didn't know what I wanted
to do with my life, and so I figured i'd
joined the military, get in the fight and take the
fight to the enemy.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
You weren't alone in that, and I mean you post
September eleventh guys who joined. I was in for about
a year before it happened, But it was such a
wave of patriot, patriotic young men stepping up and just
look doing something about it. How much of that do
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we still have, Sean, I know those guys still exist.
I'm not naive. I'm not going to say those guys
are extinct. We don't have any of those anymore. That's
not true. There's all kinds of pipe hitters who are
in there now and guys who might join one day,
who can and will do it. But do we have
as much as we did before?
Speaker 9 (39:26):
You know, Jesse, I'm not sure. I think you're right.
An entire generation rose up to serve this country in
the wake of September eleventh and had their lives, the
trajectory of their lives altered forever in a way they
probably didn't anticipate. I have no doubt that young men
and women in this country have that selflessness in the
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metal that's necessary to rise up in a moment like that.
But I would be lying to you if I told
you that. I mean, our country is just fundamentally different today,
and you know, it's been twenty three years. It feels like,
you know, the focus of our military is lacking. We're
not I mean, obviously we're in the midst of a
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grave recruiting crisis. Again, I'm not saying that that selflessness
isn't out there, that patriotism isn't out there. It is.
It just feels like it might be hibernating a little bit.
And I shudder to think what would happen in this
country if God forbid another attack on the scale of
September eleventh happened. I'd be you know, with five kids,
my friend. It worries me for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, I think about it all the time. I have
a sixteen year old and a fifteen year old, and
they're obviously about that age. And look, let's let's just
be frank about it. And I've talked about this privately,
we're friends. But I don't I don't feel like the
people who led this country, I don't feel like they
necessarily did right by all those patriotic young men who
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stepped up to fight. And I feel like this next
generation being raised by those men, they might view things
a little bit differently. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I do?
Speaker 9 (41:07):
And Jesse, you know, twenty three years after nine to eleven,
you'd think it would get a little easier hearing some
of the sound bites that you just played, or hearing
the voicemails that people left their loved ones on that plane. Oh,
it affects me more today than I think it did
when I was young, and it's hard to even talk
about now. I remember driving to drop my son off,
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who is eleven, because I've got a seventeen year old,
a fifteen year old too, thirteen year olds, and an
eleven year old. So I'm driving the eleven year old
to drop him off at at the bus stop today
and listening to, you know, some morning show on the radio,
and nine to eleven sound bites started playing, just like
a compilation of them, and my son you could just
see in his young eleven year old eyes that he
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was just in just totally engaged by what he was hearing.
And he looks at me with these wide eyes. He's like, Dad,
you live through this, right. I'm like, I did live
through this. And I could feel because they were playing
the voicemails of those women calling their husbands telling them
that they love them, that they love their kids, that
they're probably never going to see them again, and it
hits right here, and twenty three years later, it still
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is emotionally resonant to me. And I think particularly so
for a point that you just made, my friend, is
that now I know, with the benefit of hindsight of
how this country treated the men and women who served
both in Iraq and Afghanistan over twenty years of war.
My battalion specialized in Afghanistan. We deployed, we came back,
We deployed, we came back, We deployed, we came back.
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And what do we have to show for it? What
do we have to show for the war in Iraq?
Twenty years of fighting. I'm forty three years old, so
half of my adult life. All I've known in my
adult life is war. I've had thirty friends die. And
I got to add, being completely honest, what was it for?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (42:53):
Can you honestly look in the camera today. And I'm
not asking you this, Jesse, but I'm just saying to
anybody out there that's listening or watching, say that this
country is better off for the Middle East is safer
for what we did in Iraq and what we did
in Afghanistan. What we did in Iraq created a void
in Iraq, gave rise to ISIS and in bolden Iran.
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Look at what happened with the Afghan surrender. We left
American citizens behind, We abandoned our allies. We deposed autocrats
in Egypt, in Libya, we tried to do it in Syria.
And for what thousands of Americans lives lost, tens of
thousands injured, wounded, hundreds of thousands, with the invisible wounds
of war, you know, blood and treasure that will never
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get back, trillions of dollars spent. It's just really frustrating.
So and I think that's part of the reason why
looking back at nine to eleven today, it hasn't It's
still very, very emotionally resonant to me, only maybe in
a little bit of a different, more complicated way.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I actually don't think you could possibly explain my
exact feeling on the feelings on this better than you
just did. I actually just had a reunion with marine
brothers of mine I was in Iraq with, and every
single one of them, to a man, pretty much echoed
exactly what you just said, and that is that's heavy.
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And it's sad to me that the people who led
this country, Democrat and Republican and the military leaders, they'll
never own and they'll never be held to account for
what they did with our patriotism. And it bothers me
to this day. Sean, my brother, I love you always.
Will you come back anytime? Go watch Sean's show Battleground Sick.
It's awesome. Sehn's the best. All right, we have light
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in the mood next. All right, it is time to
lighten the mood. And these things. Maybe I'm just getting old.
These things get me. They get me more as I
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get older than it used to when I was younger.
Who knows, But after nine to eleven, there was so
much patriotism that was reflected in so many different ways,
and the sports arena before it became all politicized and
disgusting like it is now, the sports arena stepped up
big time. I remember this. I remember I think I
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watched the replay of this twenty times. Mike Piazza. This
is ten days after nine to eleven. Mike Piazza gets
up Jackson Homer here's how Win Lopez wants it away
and a chick pip to left Tenner Andrew Chonsi the Lord.
This one has a chance. Come on, Mike Piazza in
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the next league. Crena two. It's a great moment. It's
a great moment, all right. This is a rough show tonight.
We be back to do it again in a more
see that
Speaker 8 (46:01):
Five
Debate Takeaways with Me, with Megan Kelly, with Brittany Mayer.
We talked about nine to eleven. Sean Parnell is here.
It's a big night tonight, and I'm right, okay, I'm
sure you've spent the day consuming post debate analysis Trump
(00:26):
took on Dome last night, and so I'm just going
to lay it out for you. Don't really care if
you're offended by what I'm about to say. We have
to be honest about some things. So here we go.
It wasn't a good night. I'll get to the reasons
why in a moment. There is a silver lining at
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the end of this if you want to hang on.
But it wasn't a good night. It wasn't a good night.
And I understand what everyone, myself included, is screaming today.
I understand everyone is screaming today about the moderators, moderators, this,
moderators that, And yes, of course the moderators were awful.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
They have abortion in the ninth month.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Man and Vice President want to get your response to
President Trump. Well, as I said, you're going to hear
a bunch of lies in Springfield.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're
eating the cats.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio,
and ABCDWS did reach out to the city manager there.
He told us there have been no credible reports of
specific claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by
individuals within the immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Let me say, okay, yes, the moderators were horribly bad.
David Murror, Lindsey Lip injections. They went all in, and
we knew they would. We talked about this a little
bit yesterday. Dome. She was falling in the polls before this,
doing well. The betting odds were all going in Trump's favor.
(02:04):
He was the one looking strong. She was the one
who needed to have a good performance at this debate.
She could not get up there and be ahaha, ditzy
airhead that she normally is. It would have sunk her campaign.
ABC and those two filthy communists who moderated it, they
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knew that. Did they slipper the questions? Of course they did.
Did they decide to go all in and burn down
what tiny bit of credibility they may have had left. Yes,
of course they did. All those things are true. But
it was not a great night for us. It wasn't disastrous.
It wasn't the end of the world. Again. I'll get
to that in a moment. But it was a bad
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night for us. And this goes way beyond Donald Trump's
performance last night. This is a lesson for you, for me,
for everyone watching running for office, who has run for office,
might run for office. You need to remember this now
and always, always, always fight your battle on your battlefield.
(03:08):
There are endless military books and proverbs and sayings that
have been written about exactly this. You choose your battlefield.
If I am a boxer and you are a wrestler
and we get in a fight, you want to go
to the ground, you should not stand and box with me.
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I want to stand up. I want to keep it
off the ground because I don't want to wrestle with you.
And if I'm able to stand up, I will win.
If you're able to get it to the ground, you
will win. The one who decides what the subject is,
the one who chooses the battle during the debate, will
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be the winner of the debate. And what blows me away,
what may be so mad as I watched this horrible
performance last night from Donald Trump. What blows me away
is Trump knows how to do that. He knows how
to stay on message and choose his battle. Do you
remember the first debate with Joe Biden, January sixth came up,
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and but before I play it, Before I play it,
remember that these debates aren't for you or me. I
know I'm already voting for Trump. I know who I'm
voting for. The debates are not for you, They're not
for me. These debates are for the norms, the normans
that I really know I don't find of politics. It's
for those people. And as passionate as I am about
January sixth, the evil things the government did on that
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day and has done to those political prisoners ever since,
the evil things they're doing to Trump, I'm passionate about
January sixth, I am. The average American voter doesn't want
to hear about it, doesn't want to talk about it.
They don't they don't care. And if you talk about it,
you're losing. Donald Trump knew this in the first debate.
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Jake Tapper, of course, throws some loaded question at Donald
Trump about January sixth. Do you want to see a
master class at you choosing what you want to talk about.
Look at the first version of Trump as president.
Speaker 5 (05:17):
You swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect, and defend
unquote the Constitution. What do you say to voters who
believe that you violated that oath through your actions and
inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, I don't think you many believe that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
And let me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth,
we had a great border, nobody coming through, very few.
On January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth,
we had the lowest taxes ever, We had the lowest
regulations ever. On January sixth, we were respected all over
the world. All over the world, we were respected. And
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then he comes in and we're now left that we're
like a bunch of stupid people. That what happened to
the United States's reputation under this man's leadership is horrible,
including weaponization, which I'm sure at some point you'll be
talking about where he goes after his political opponent because
he can't beat him fair and square.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Oh my gosh, just hang that in a museum somewhere.
That's Donald Trump painting a masterpiece on how to debate,
how to stay on your message, ignore their bad framing,
you talk about what you want, you stay on. It
was perfect. It was perfect. I stood up in my
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house as I was watching that, and I cheered. I
stood up and cheered. It was that good. Now I
know Joe Biden dropped out of the presidential debate. Apparently
that version of Donald Trump did too, because here was
the same question from last night, and here's how he
answered it.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Mister President, on January sixth, you told your supporters to
march to the Capitol. You said you would be right
there with them. The country in the world saw what
played out of the Capitol that day, the officers coming
under attack. Aids in the West Wings say you watched
it unfold on television off the Oval office. You did
send out tweets, but it was more than two hours
before you sent out that video message telling your supporters
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to go home. Is there anything you regret about what
you did on that day?
Speaker 2 (07:16):
You just said a thing that isn't covered peacefully and patriotically,
I said during my speech, not later on, peacefully and
patriotically and nobody on the other side was killed. Ashley
Babbitt was shot by an out of control police officer
that should have never ever shot her. It's a disgrace,
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but we didn't do this group of people that have
been treated so badly. I ask, what about all the
people that are pouring into our country and killing people
that she allowed to port it? She was the boorders are?
Remember that she was the borders are?
Speaker 1 (07:56):
What was that taking the bait? Taking the bait playing defense.
Kamala Harris and the debate moderators, they're one and the same.
They came into that debate knowing how to get under
Donald Trump's skin if he was to allow them. Remember,
(08:17):
you decide if you're offended or not. I don't decide,
so why I tell you all the time, I don't
care if you're offended. I don't care if you're offended
right now, that's a the choice you've made. I haven't
made it. You decide your emotional response to the things
that are said to you Donald Trump. In the first debate,
they let all that stuff bounce right off nothing. Last night,
Kamala Harris and her team very clearly came in with
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a plan to bait Donald Trump, get him off message
and get him playing defense. At one point in time,
they had Donald Trump fact checking them about just how
many hundreds of millions of dollars his father left them.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I grew up a middle class kid, raised by a
hardworking mother who worked and saved and was able to
buy our first home when I was a teenager. The
values I bring to the importance of home ownership, knowing
not everybody got handed four hundred million dollars on a
silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times is a
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value that I bring to my work to say we
are going to work with the private sector and home
builders to increase three million homes, increase buy three million
homes by the end of my first term.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
Well, first of all, I wasn't given four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I wish I was. My father was a.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Brooklyn build at Brooklyn Queens and a great father, and
I learned a lot from him. But I was given
a fraction of that, a tiny fraction, and have built
it into many many billions of dollars, many many billions,
and when people see it they are even surprised. So
we don't have to talk about that fracking she's been
against it for twelve years.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
People don't care. They can't afford eggs. People who are
watching the American Dream disappear in front of their eyes.
They don't want to hear you talk about your inheritance.
It was a bad performance. It's terrible. It's the worst
I've ever seen him do, and juxtaposed that with Dome,
it's the best I've ever seen her do. I don't Yeah,
(10:18):
I know she lied the whole time. I understand that
she lied the whole time. Came off as nervous in
the beginning. She came in there, she didn't look like
the ditsy queen she actually is, which is a win
for them. She was on message, got him playing defense
most of the night. I will say this, it took
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him too long to get warmed up. By now, most
people had turned it off. But towards the end, Trump
was getting much better about getting on message, getting his
points across.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
So she just started by saying she's going to do this,
She's going to do that, She's going.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
To do all these wonderful things.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Why hasn't she done it. She's been there for three
and a half year years, they've had three and a
half years to fix the border. They've had three and
a half years to create jobs and all the things
we talked about. Why hasn't she done it? She should
leave right now, go down to that beautiful White House,
go to the Capitol, get everyone together, and do the
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things you want to do. But you haven't done it,
and you won't do it because you believe in things
that the American people don't believe in. You believe in
things like we're not going to frack, we're not going
to take fossil fuel. We're not going to do things
that are going to make this country strong, whether you
like it or not. We can't sacrifice our country for
the sake of bad vision. But I just ask one
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simple question, why didn't she do it? We're a failing nation.
We're a nation that's in serious decline. We're being laughed
at all over the world. All over the world they laugh.
I know the leaders very well. They're coming to see me,
they call me. We're laughed at all over the world.
We're going to end up in a third World war,
and it'll be a warlike no other because of nuclear weapons,
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the power of weaponry. I rebuilt our entire military. She
gave a lot of it away to the Taliban, She
gave it to Afghanistan. What these people have done to
our country, and maybe toughest of all is allowing millions
of people to come into our country. Many of them
are criminals, and they're destroying our country. The worst president,
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the worst vice president in the history of our country.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
That was awesome. That should have been the opening statement.
You had three and a half years, Why haven't you
done it? It should have been every answer you had
three and a half years. Why why haven't you done it?
You had three and a half years, Why haven't you
done it? That was excellent, though it took a while
to get warmed up. Now before we get to Megan
Kelly and her savaging of the moderators, allow me to
throw this silver lining in all this. It was a
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bad night, No question, was bad night, all right. If
you pay attention at all to the various focus groups
they from these debates, they'll find groups of undecided voters.
Tons of people do this now. Undecided voters were not
blown away by Kamala Harris's performance. They didn't think Donald
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Trump did well, they didn't think she did well. They
were very aware of how biased. The moderators were. So
the silver lining is maybe the American people, even the
norms and normas out there, understand a rigged debate when
they see one. And this really won't affect much. And
I don't think it will. It's now about blocking and tackling.
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The debate's over, dig In, go win the presidency all
right now. Megan Kelly wasn't too happy about the moderators.
Speaker 6 (13:43):
I'm disgusted.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
I'm ashamed of those moderators at ABC News. They did
exactly what their bosses.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
Wanted them to do. It was three against one.
Speaker 7 (13:55):
It's very easy to look like you know what you're
doing when both moderate are entirely on your side.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, hard to argue with any of that. Nor would
I argue with Megan Kelly about something like that anyway,
She'd probably kill me. Joining me now. Megan Kelly, journalist,
host to The Megan Kelly Show, which is amazing serious
sexem Triumph Channel one to eleven every weekday at noon
Eastern time. Megan Okay, So, David Muir and Lindsey Lip injections,
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they carried Kamala Harris through the debate. We knew they
were going to carry her through the debate. They went
all in and they just they just looked Credibility obviously
wasn't a concern. They were going all in trying to
win an election. It was obvious.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Oh, I have so many feelings about it.
Speaker 7 (14:42):
I'm actually really looking forward to hearing how you're feeling too,
because I'm angry. I'm kind of down about it. I
feel just depressed about what happened last night.
Speaker 6 (14:54):
Frustrated.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I realized that what you and I are doing in
our independent lane is the answer and the to this
terrible thing that's happened to the profession of journalism. But
right now there's a presidential election to win, and we
have these very powerful forces working to undermine one candidate
in a way I've never seen before.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Jesse. This is I don't know.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
Sixteen was bad, but I think there was still at
least the semblance of we want to remain respectable and
be perceived by some people as objective.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
And it's gone.
Speaker 7 (15:30):
It's gone, and yet they still have a fair amount
of power, these two out there.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
I mean, it's smart.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
He was wearing that blue and she had on that
sort of bluish gray top, because that's who they are.
They wore their team colors and they were there on
a mission.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
And I don't care.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
How stodgy and stiff David Mrror makes his face. He
was as bent as they come when it comes to
his bias and this race going into who the hell
watches ABC World News to I mean that really, honestly,
it's mostly for octogenarians.
Speaker 6 (16:03):
I don't watch that, but none of us watches this.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
But I saw the Media Research Center report saying that
they're the most biased of the three. They're most biased
out NBC and CBS as well. Almost it was something
like ninety two or ninety three percent positive stories for
Kamala Harris, ninety seven percent negative for Donald Trump. That's
shocking even to me. And last night we saw that
on full display. No Republican should ever agree to go
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on this channel for a presidential debate ever.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Again, So why do they, Megan, because you're on hundred
percent right with all that. Why do we do this
every time? Why is this? What is this Republican need
where they feel obligated to walk into the lions Den
every time? And I'm not here saying that I should
be moderating one of these debates. I'm a complete biased
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partisan human being. I shouldn't be moderating it either. But
why do Republicans feel like they have to accept the
ABC debate and they just have to accept whatever a
couple comedies they happen to roll out there. I don't
understand this way of thinking.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Why a habit. It's just habit. That's the way it's
always been, and that's the way they're used to operating.
They don't really see another choice. And on the subject
of bias, you actually could do it, Jesse's you're not
required to be unbiased to host a presidential debate. It's fine.
I can guarantee you. Jake Tapper and Dana Bash hate
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Donald Trump, but they did a good job at that
June debate. You could not see their hatred or their bias.
That's fine that we can't ask for more than that
from journalists. They're entitled to have opinions about the news
that they cover and the subjects they cover. They're just
not entitled to share it in the context of their interviews,
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their town halls, or their big presidential debates. That's what
we're asking of them. It's not too high a bar.
Be fair, be equally tough on both sides. That's why
I feel like I could do this. I can't stand
Kamala Harris. I really hope she loses. But if you
were to watch me moderate a debate between these two,
you would not see me be any harder on her
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than I would be on Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
And I have a record that reflects that.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
They won't do it because their politics are everything to them,
so they refuse to check their bias. They all sit
around in these rooms. I've been in them where they
don't even see the bias. They think this is just
what's dignified, what's required to be a big jay journalist
who went to one of these, you know whatever schools.
Speaker 6 (18:40):
So it's group think.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
But on the Republican side, they need to understand that
we're in a.
Speaker 6 (18:46):
New ecosphere now.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
And if I were Trump and I really wanted to
do another debate, I don't know whether he's feeling that
or not. Doesn't sound like it, I would say, I'll
do it one of two ways. Either it's just the
two of us, or we just know there is no moderator,
or I pick one moderator and you pick the other
and then we go. You know, and you could you
could drip brains from and how you want to do that.
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He wants to pick somebody who would just cross examine her,
and she wants to pick somebody who would just cross
examine him, or he wants to pick the person who
asked him quite whatever. But the current system is not working.
It's not working for Republicans only, and therefore it must
be thrown out and we have to start again.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Megan, I'm just I want to wrap up with this.
How do you think he did? I thought that was
one of the worst debate performances I've seen from him.
His first debate. He was so on message. Didn't walk
into these bear traps. They were obviously setting for him,
and he walked into them routine. The last night, he's
talking about Project twenty twenty five, he's talking about the
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exact amount of inheritance. He got it. It was it
seemed like they walked in with the plan to bait him,
and it worked.
Speaker 6 (19:52):
It true, he took debait on everything.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
I mean, it's like me on the sidelawn with my
dog's Drudwick just to throw throw the liver snap and
he will it no matter where I throw it.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
That was a.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Mistake, But I will say I felt sorry for him.
I mean I felt sorry for him because he was
in a fox hole and there were three people shooting
down at him, and it's a very tough situation to
get yourself out of him. And I think he did
the best he can. He did the best he's capable
of at this point. Could somebody else have done better?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (20:19):
I think jad Vance probably if he had been in
that situation and he will be soon, he could have
done better. But I really had I had sympathy for
Trump because what a difficult situation when all three of
them are piling on and there is no lifeline anywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Yeah. I tend to agree with you on that. I
said that was the last one, but this one is
does it matter? I know that it's not nothing. The
first presidential debate is something people do watch it, they
make decisions on it. But does it matter that much?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (20:48):
And I don't think this is going to change the
election results, or maybe not even the poll results. Maybe
a couple of days we get some polling bounds for her,
but I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I think people are pretty dug in.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
You'd need a huge momentum shifter in order to really
affect the polls.
Speaker 6 (21:03):
That's not what happened on Tuesday night.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Megan, you are the best. Come back soon, all right,
Brittany Mayer, independent journalist, joins us. Next, I want to
hear what she has to say about all this, But first,
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Speaker 4 (22:17):
He is more interested in defending himself than he is
in looking out for you.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
That's just a sound good.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They gave her that to say to Washington, DC and
let her sign a bill to close up the border,
because they have.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
The right to do it.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
They don't need bills. They have the right to do it.
The president of the United States. You'll get them out
of bed. You'll wake them up at four o'clock in
the afternoon. You'll say, come on, come on down to
the office, let's sign a bill. She gave up at
least twelve and probably fourteen or fifteen different policies, like
she was big on defund the police in Minnesota. She
went out, I'm talking now, if you don't mind, please
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does that sound familiar?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Okay, Trump did have some good moments last I had
some zingers out there overall. You know my thoughts on it.
I already told you, But I wonder to know what
Britney's thoughts are. Joining me now, Independent reporter, founder of
Rooted Wings, friend of the show, Britney Mayer joins us. Okay, Brittany,
everyone knows my thoughts by now. I thought it was
a terrible night. In the end, I don't know that
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it will matter. I think we rebound and block and
tackle from here. But I thought it was awful. He
was on defense all night. What'd you see?
Speaker 8 (23:24):
Yeah, definitely on defense. Hey, But here's my overall perspective
and takeaway is what we saw last night is it
is the establishment machine again propping up their candidate, and
in that the loser is the American people. So I
actually think that it was a win when you look
at it that way, because once again we see Donald
Trump as being anti establishment. He is not held up
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and propped up by the establishment machine. It was three
versus one all night long long. So in that perspective,
I actually think that Donald Trump came out very strong.
Of course, he had to be on defense because the
machine has after him four years. And I think the
American people are going to take that away and see
it as they relate to Donald Trump. Kamala Harris is
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a career politician. She is not relatable, and she's now
being used and propped up as the media darling by
the machine, and I think that's terrifying.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Okay, So the night wasn't a complete disaster for Dome
the way I assumed it was because she's such a
ditsy airhead. She was obviously prepared with the questions I'm
sure ahead of time in speeches, but she still has
to get back out there and as you just pointed out,
relate to people. Now, do you even bother with another
debate if you're Trump or if you're her, who wants one?
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Who doesn't want one?
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Look, I think that Trump shines when he is doing
those long form interviews that he was doing. He did
one with Aiden, he had another one with Sean Ryan.
Those speak to the heart of the American people. I
think the debates were past the point of needing debates
to prove which candidate is. The media is darling. We
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know that they are going to embrace Kamala and prop
her up because she is the machines pet. I think
that Trump shines in the long form interviews that Kamala
can't do. So I would encourage Trump to continue with that,
continue with his rallies that people do show up for
and do stay for. I think that really does speak
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to the heart of the American people. And another takeaway
that I had that I just want to touch on
that I think is really important is after this debate
is said and done next week, people aren't going to
still be talking about this debate. It was not memorable,
but what people are going to remember and feel the
average American when they go get groceries, that they can't
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afford groceries, that their rent is tripled or quadrupled, that
they can't get insurance because his rates are out of touch.
And I think that that on those issues alone, Trump dominates,
and they will remember that. At the end of the debate,
Trump said, it's been three and a half years of this.
You want three and a half more years? Do you
want four more years of this? And the average American
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knows that they don't feel safe, they don't feel like
they can afford America, they don't feel like this is
America anymore. And I think that that's where Trump needs
to stay focused.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
How do you think he handled the whole abortion thing? Now,
I disagree with Trump and his stance on the issue,
but that's not important. That debate wasn't for me. It
was for all the normy people who don't know who
they're voting for. I actually thought he handled that fairly well,
pointing out their radicalism because they're a bunch of demonic
baby murderers.
Speaker 8 (26:38):
Yes, and I think he could have gone in even
heavier on that. I was on the edge of my
seat hoping that he was going to pull up her receipts,
and he didn't. But Harris's receipts on abortion as a
senator in California are diabolical. I don't know if you
know this, Jesse, but Harris has voted against the efforts
to protect babies born alive in California not once, but twice.
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And she also voted against an act that would have
set limitations on pain capable unborn child protections. So she
is one hundred percent a monster when it comes to
our unborn, and I wish that Trump would have laid
into that even heavier. You know, we talk about the
pets being eaten by the Haitians out in Springfield, but
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the reality is that if Kamala and Wallas get in,
we are going to witness the diabolical murdering of the
unborn unlike we've ever ever seen it in this country.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
Yeah, speaking of that comment the pets being eaten, I
actually didn't like it, and it's not because it wasn't accurate.
It obviously is accurate, as hard as they're trying to
cover it up. It was kind of disconnected. Why are
didn't people like you are going to know exactly what
he was referring to. But again, the undecided norm watching
just knows he drops some weird line about dogs being eaten.
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I don't think it was articulated that well.
Speaker 8 (27:59):
Yeah, I agree. I think what he could have done
is he could have said, you know, done his little
trump ism where he says, you know, the pets, maybe
they're getting eaten in Springfield, maybe they're not. Maybe ducks
are being pulled out of the pond, maybe they're not,
but what we do know, And then he could have
gone into all the data we have about the safety
issues because we have an open border that we have
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seen Americans killed by illegal foreigners. They're actually in Springfield, Ohio,
there was an eleven year old boy that was killed
by a Haitian illegal foreigner. And I think that he
could have directed it, you know, touch on the pet
situation and the ducks being pulled out of the ponds,
but then redirect America's attention to the fact that we
live in an unsafe country right now because of Harris's
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policy on the border. And he should have stuck there
and landed there. But that's what leads me back to say,
I think that the average American knows that and so
next week, when this debate is forgotten, people are going
to still feel unsafe. I know that Kamala is not
coming to rescue them.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
One thing that stuck out to my wife that I noticed,
but it didn't stick out to me the way it
stuck out to her. Maybe it's just a gender thing.
Was that handshake in the beginning here it was for
those who forgot it.
Speaker 6 (29:22):
Kamala Harris, so good to ba. Thank it.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Welcome to you both. It's wonderful to have you. It's
an honor to have you both here tonight.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Good evening we are looking for.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It was so weird. Did you make anything out of it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (29:39):
I don't think he wanted to shake her hand, and
I think she kind of forced herself upon him. I mean, look,
she's all the way over at his podium, which is
clearly larger than hers because ABC had to manipulate the
optics to make it look like they're the same size.
I mean, what a joke. I wouldn't want to shake
her hand either. I think that we are past a
point in America where we have to play by all
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these standard optic rules. You know, Kamala Harris has been
a massive part of destroying our nation. I don't think
she's due a handshake. I don't think there's anything gentlemanly
about extending your hand to someone who is at the
helm of the ship creating an incredibly unsafe country for
our children. So that was my takeaway. I actually I
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liked that Trump was hesitant and then he did he
shook her hand. But I liked that he forced her
hand literally in that first take.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Brittany, thank you. I appreciate you. All Right, we have
little September eleventh reflection. It is that terrible anniversary today,
and we'll do that in just a moment. So let's look,
let's talk about something the corporate world. We're all mad
at ABC today, but this is something that's taken place,
especially over the last ten fifteen years. The corporate world
(30:55):
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commercials anymore, and we need to defund them, meaning we
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Go to pure talk dot com slash Jesse TB. We'll
be back all right. It is the anniversary of September eleventh.
Today everyone has their story, while everyone who's old enough
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has their story about where they were what they were doing.
I know I've told you this before, but I thought
it would be appropriate to just take a minute tell
you where I was. I was in the Marines, already
very young marine. I'd been in for about a year.
I wasn't one of those super patriots who joined afterward.
And we'd gotten up that morning we went and did
PTE Exercise Marine Corps. So we've been on this long
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run and all kinds of things. And we had just
finished this long run and we were in front of
our barracks and we're just doing some stretching things like that,
and they told us, hey, get up to your room
now and turn on the TV. Not exactly a normal order.
You get go watch television. Okay, something big must be
going on. So we all scampered up to the barracks.
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We're all sweaty, covered in sand and everything else, and
open up the door. We get into our barracks rooms
and there was like ten to fifteen of us pout
in one room. Guys were powered in the different rooms.
We turned on the television and one of the towers
had been hit. And remember we had been out pteing,
so we were all confused. My first thought, and this
(33:07):
was it was the main thought in the room, was
did some drunk flyplane in the tower on accident? How
do you hit a tower on accident? We didn't, We
didn't know. We just had no idea. But we're watching,
we're watching, we're watching, and this is all live. I
think it was CNN, and we watched live as a
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second plane hit the second tower. And now obviously we
know we're not stupid, we know this is an attack
on the country, and we're mad. We're mad, but it
wasn't white hot anger. Yet, it wasn't mad. They start balls.
Who do they think they are? And we're still watching,
And then the towers came down, and everybody watching, every
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marine in the room knew what that meant. We knew
how many people had just lost their lives, how many
innocent civilians had lost their lives. And I'm not a
big crier, It's not who I am. I don't not
that way. But I had tears of rage pouring down
my face that day. And I will tell you I
was not alone in that room. We all wanted to
go kill somebody. Just me being very honest, We were
(34:10):
all ready to go kill everybody. Really, That's how we
felt about today. And I recently had a chance go
to New York City and see the Nine to eleven
Memorial Museum. If you're ever in New York City, do it.
There are some things that I just feel like every
American should do. If you get the chance, do it.
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Go walk through that and remember it's a day you
should always remember. It's a day I'll never forget. All right,
That's all. I just wanted to share my story, talk
to Sean Parnell, his story and everything about that. In
just the moment, let me talk to you about this
really quickly talk to you about getting a good night's sleep.
Last night was debate night didn't go great at the
(34:56):
end of the world, but didn't go great, So maybe
you had trouble sleeping. I'll tell you. I thought I
was going to have trouble sleeping. So the second the
debate ended, I did my YouTube live thing and I
was sipping on a little cup of dream powder hot
chocolate as I was doing it, because it's natural things
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Speaker 5 (35:46):
Our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom
came under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly
terrorist acts.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
None of us will ever forget this day.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Yet we go forward to defend freedom and all that
is good and just in our world.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
I remember it, and I remember it all. One of
those things. If you're of a certain age, you remember it,
remember where you were, You remember what happened afterwards? Joining
me now my friend host of battle Ground Live, which
I would highly recommend you watch, Sean Parnell, also a
combat veteran. Okay, Sean, my story, I've already told it.
(36:28):
Everyone knows mine on this show September eleventh. Where were you?
What were you doing? The floor's yours? Tell us about it.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
I was a sophomore in college at a small university
in western Pennsylvania. We had just had a big party
the night before, and at that party, Jesse I had
a conversation with my buddies about how our generation never
really had an inflection point or a moment that defined
(36:57):
who we were. And then I remember waking up on
this rundown college couch the next day and you know,
blinked my eyes open and the world was spinning, had
to hangover of a lifetime, and all around me were
Iron City beer cans and Crush cigarette butts, and I
remember staggering over to the television set and turning it
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on and watching it flicker to life, just in time
to see an airplane crash into the World Trade Center,
and in that moment, just like anybody else who lived
through nine to eleven, I feel like I was shaken
to my core. I was angry. I was also afraid.
I watched people tumble from those towers and land on
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the sidewalk on live television, watch people stumble out of
that wreckage, you know, covered in thick gray soot. Only
thing you could see were bloodshot eyes and a thousand
yards stare. I think what affected me the most that day, Jesse,
and what inspired me to eventually join the military, was
how our first responders responded, and that was, instead of
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running away from the flames, I watched one first responder
after the next run headlong into them. And as you know,
and as the American people know, anyone who lived through
that day knows, many of those first responders who stormed
into the flames that day and ran up those steps
to try to save people that they'd never met before,
and an act of selflessness that I'd never witnessed in
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my lifetime up until that very moment. Many of those
people never emerged from those flames again. And Jesse, I
was a kid back then, didn't have good grades, it
was probably drinking too much, didn't know what I wanted
to do with my life, and so I figured i'd
joined the military, get in the fight and take the
fight to the enemy.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
You weren't alone in that, and I mean you post
September eleventh guys who joined. I was in for about
a year before it happened, But it was such a
wave of patriot, patriotic young men stepping up and just
look doing something about it. How much of that do
(39:08):
we still have, Sean, I know those guys still exist.
I'm not naive. I'm not going to say those guys
are extinct. We don't have any of those anymore. That's
not true. There's all kinds of pipe hitters who are
in there now and guys who might join one day,
who can and will do it. But do we have
as much as we did before?
Speaker 9 (39:26):
You know, Jesse, I'm not sure. I think you're right.
An entire generation rose up to serve this country in
the wake of September eleventh and had their lives, the
trajectory of their lives altered forever in a way they
probably didn't anticipate. I have no doubt that young men
and women in this country have that selflessness in the
(39:49):
metal that's necessary to rise up in a moment like that.
But I would be lying to you if I told
you that. I mean, our country is just fundamentally different today,
and you know, it's been twenty three years. It feels like,
you know, the focus of our military is lacking. We're
not I mean, obviously we're in the midst of a
(40:09):
grave recruiting crisis. Again, I'm not saying that that selflessness
isn't out there, that patriotism isn't out there. It is.
It just feels like it might be hibernating a little bit.
And I shudder to think what would happen in this
country if God forbid another attack on the scale of
September eleventh happened. I'd be you know, with five kids,
my friend. It worries me for sure.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, I think about it all the time. I have
a sixteen year old and a fifteen year old, and
they're obviously about that age. And look, let's let's just
be frank about it. And I've talked about this privately,
we're friends. But I don't I don't feel like the
people who led this country, I don't feel like they
necessarily did right by all those patriotic young men who
(40:57):
stepped up to fight. And I feel like this next
generation being raised by those men, they might view things
a little bit differently. Do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
I do?
Speaker 9 (41:07):
And Jesse, you know, twenty three years after nine to eleven,
you'd think it would get a little easier hearing some
of the sound bites that you just played, or hearing
the voicemails that people left their loved ones on that plane. Oh,
it affects me more today than I think it did
when I was young, and it's hard to even talk
about now. I remember driving to drop my son off,
(41:28):
who is eleven, because I've got a seventeen year old,
a fifteen year old too, thirteen year olds, and an
eleven year old. So I'm driving the eleven year old
to drop him off at at the bus stop today
and listening to, you know, some morning show on the radio,
and nine to eleven sound bites started playing, just like
a compilation of them, and my son you could just
see in his young eleven year old eyes that he
(41:50):
was just in just totally engaged by what he was hearing.
And he looks at me with these wide eyes. He's like, Dad,
you live through this, right. I'm like, I did live
through this. And I could feel because they were playing
the voicemails of those women calling their husbands telling them
that they love them, that they love their kids, that
they're probably never going to see them again, and it
hits right here, and twenty three years later, it still
(42:14):
is emotionally resonant to me. And I think particularly so
for a point that you just made, my friend, is
that now I know, with the benefit of hindsight of
how this country treated the men and women who served
both in Iraq and Afghanistan over twenty years of war.
My battalion specialized in Afghanistan. We deployed, we came back,
We deployed, we came back, We deployed, we came back.
(42:36):
And what do we have to show for it? What
do we have to show for the war in Iraq?
Twenty years of fighting. I'm forty three years old, so
half of my adult life. All I've known in my
adult life is war. I've had thirty friends die. And
I got to add, being completely honest, what was it for?
Speaker 1 (42:53):
You know?
Speaker 9 (42:53):
Can you honestly look in the camera today. And I'm
not asking you this, Jesse, but I'm just saying to
anybody out there that's listening or watching, say that this
country is better off for the Middle East is safer
for what we did in Iraq and what we did
in Afghanistan. What we did in Iraq created a void
in Iraq, gave rise to ISIS and in bolden Iran.
(43:14):
Look at what happened with the Afghan surrender. We left
American citizens behind, We abandoned our allies. We deposed autocrats
in Egypt, in Libya, we tried to do it in Syria.
And for what thousands of Americans lives lost, tens of
thousands injured, wounded, hundreds of thousands, with the invisible wounds
of war, you know, blood and treasure that will never
(43:35):
get back, trillions of dollars spent. It's just really frustrating.
So and I think that's part of the reason why
looking back at nine to eleven today, it hasn't It's
still very, very emotionally resonant to me, only maybe in
a little bit of a different, more complicated way.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Yeah, I actually don't think you could possibly explain my
exact feeling on the feelings on this better than you
just did. I actually just had a reunion with marine
brothers of mine I was in Iraq with, and every
single one of them, to a man, pretty much echoed
exactly what you just said, and that is that's heavy.
(44:14):
And it's sad to me that the people who led
this country, Democrat and Republican and the military leaders, they'll
never own and they'll never be held to account for
what they did with our patriotism. And it bothers me
to this day. Sean, my brother, I love you always.
Will you come back anytime? Go watch Sean's show Battleground Sick.
It's awesome. Sehn's the best. All right, we have light
(44:35):
in the mood next. All right, it is time to
lighten the mood. And these things. Maybe I'm just getting old.
These things get me. They get me more as I
(44:55):
get older than it used to when I was younger.
Who knows, But after nine to eleven, there was so
much patriotism that was reflected in so many different ways,
and the sports arena before it became all politicized and
disgusting like it is now, the sports arena stepped up
big time. I remember this. I remember I think I
(45:16):
watched the replay of this twenty times. Mike Piazza. This
is ten days after nine to eleven. Mike Piazza gets
up Jackson Homer here's how Win Lopez wants it away
and a chick pip to left Tenner Andrew Chonsi the Lord.
This one has a chance. Come on, Mike Piazza in
(45:37):
the next league. Crena two. It's a great moment. It's
a great moment, all right. This is a rough show tonight.
We be back to do it again in a more
see that
Speaker 8 (46:01):
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