September 9, 2024 • 44 mins
(Full Show) It's finally here: The Donald Trump vs Kamala Harris debate on ABC. Will Kamala suffer the same fate as Joe Biden did back in June? Or will it be an entirely different story? On this edition of I'm Right, Jesse Kelly goes through the keys to victory for Donald Trump. Jesse is also joined by John Phillips and Jennifer Galardi to get their thoughts on the debate. Plus, an update on everything happening with Congress back in session from Rep. Tim Burchett.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's time to preview the debate. Jennifer Galardi is here
to help with that. John Phillips is here to help
with that. We talked to timber Shit, member of Congress.
I believe they're getting ready to blow a bunch of
your money. There is so much to get to tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But I'm right, all right, let's talk about the debate.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is tomorrow night. I'm so freaking excited about it.
This is heaven for political nerds like you and me.
I was having a cup of coffee with the wife
this morning. We were just joking about life and talking
about things. I said, Oh, the debate's tomorrow, and she
got excited too. Everyone's excited. It's fired up time. It's
game time, baby. And look, before we get to the rules,
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this debate is a really big deal. It's a really, really,
really big deal. Why Because elections are really about you
or me. I'm talking about general elections, the primary process
that's really about you and me. When it comes to
general elections for the presidency, they're about the norms, the
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normas of the world, the normal people in your life,
your friends, neighbors, relatives who don't really pay attention to politics.
I don't like politics. He catch the game. It's those people.
They are the people, sadly, who decide who wins general elections,
and the norm and Norma they will tune out of
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life of politics there they'll just act too busy, but
they will tune in for the presidential debates, especially the
first debates between the candidates. It's why after Joe Biden
pooped his pants on stage during the last debate, every
Democrat pundit and politician went on television and they were
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practically crying, they were giving his eulogy. Why because they
knew it was a big deal that Joe Biden got
on stage that night and pooped his pants. It wasn't
a small deal, it wasn't a twenty four hour outrage.
Democrats knew that norm and Norma were watching the president
and finding out what you've known for three and a
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half years, that he's not a function to adult. And
they knew that was it for them. And tomorrow night,
the debate on ABC is a big deal because as
wired in as you are to politics, you know the
headlines and the players, you know the scandals, you know
all this. That's how tuned out Norman Norma are they
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have no idea, but tomorrow they will be tuned in,
and as unbelievable as this is, you should understand this.
There will be many undecided voters who tune in to
that debate tomorrow night, and they will decide who to
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vote for based on what they see at the debate
tomorrow night, many of them, I know, for nerds like you,
like me. It's crazy. What do you mean you're trying
to decide? How do you not know? We know everything?
I get it, But that's the reality. The debate's huge.
So let's talk about the debate. It's on ABC. That's
a disaster. Get to that in a moment. But the
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rules are wonderful. The rules that were set up to
help Joe Biden. Remember these are the Biden rules that
Trump agreed to. They were set up to help Joe Biden.
They ended up hurting Joe Biden, and now they're bad
for Dome. You're not allowed notes. That's going to kill Dome.
It won't kill Trump. He knows all this stuff. They're
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not allowed to confer with campaign staffers. Again, that won't
matter to Trump. He doesn't listen to his people. Halftime anyways,
she's kind of his own guy. Dome needs someone to
tell her what to say. That's going to hurt Dome.
Every part of this debate hurts Dome, and the part
of the debate that hurts her the most is that
they can't interrupt each other. You see, Dome, she needs
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to be interrupted. She has to be interrupted. She has
to because all she has is that I'm speaking line.
We've talked about this before. That's all she has. That's
the only thing she can use. She doesn't have a personality.
And let's again go back to the norms and norms
who will be watching, who may decide the election tomorrow night,
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may decide the election. If you're just now getting introduced
to Kamala Harris because they know Trump. Everyone knows Trump.
Even the norms know Trump by now. If you're just
now getting introduced, maybe you don't like Trump. You're not sure,
you know, gas is too high, you're kind of undecided,
if you're one of those weirdos right now. Dome is
not necessarily a known quantity. You know who she is.
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But imagine tuning in and hearing this for the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We talked about those lids. So here's what I said
to her. Here's what I said to her. So you
know how those lids are, because this is I'm just
gonna speak, Okay, So this is it. So you know
how those lids on those Starbucks cups? They're white, right,
and so if you wear a lipstick, they get all
over the lid. And so then I find myself in
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meetings if I'm the only woman, and that's kind of
and so I keep taking the lid off and having
my cup out so that I don't have that big
lipstick mark on the lid. So I said, can we
do something about the color of the lid. So that
was that conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, but what will tomorrow night be about? And clearly
won't be about Dome's personality? If it is, she's finished,
If she can't have Trump interrupt her and he can't,
then what they will have. The only thing they will
have is pre a series of pre packaged speeches, and
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they'll have no choice but to crop their fingers and
pray Dome memorize those. Remember, this is exactly what they tried.
If you were paying attention, this is what they tried
for Joe Biden during the debate. For the same reason
he can't think he can't talk, but hey, let's get
him to memorize this. Just hey, Joe, whenever they bring
up anything abortion, whatever, the foreign policy. Here, Joe, here's
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what you talk about. And they were banking on him
just being able to regurgitate what they'd written down for
him and get away with it. That's what Dome's going
to try tomorrow. And it will all be based on fear.
That's what it'll all be. It'll all be based on
be afraid of Trump for this reason or afraid of
Trump for that reason. That's how they operate. That's how
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Dome has always operated. Remember when she was flailing in
that Democrat primary and she had no chance to even
take down Joe Biden, but she knew she had to
swing for the fences. So what was her home run swing?
What was her home run shot? She was desperate? Well,
of course, racism.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I would like to speak on the issue of raight.
I'm going to now direct this at Vice President Biden.
I do not believe you are a racist, and I
agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance
of finding common ground. But I also believe and it's personal,
and I was actually very it was hurtful to hear
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you talk about the reputations of two United States senators
who built their reputations and career on the segregation of
race in this country. And it was not only that,
but you also worked with them to a post busing.
And you know, there was a little girl in California
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who was part of the second class to integrate her
public school, and she was busted to school every day.
And that little girl was me.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's all she's got, That's all that got. And she'll
have a heaping helping of that tomorrow. So what can
Trump do? What should Trump do?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Trump has historically done very well in the debates, set
aside the first debate with Joe Biden last election. Trump
does well in debates. That happens. He's a charismatic guy,
he is. He loves being on stage, he loves crowds,
he loves speeches, he loves cameras. It's what he's always done.
So he's completely comfortable up there. But how comfortable is
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he is? The question what I mean by that is
is he going to go completely off script or is
he going to do what he did last time during
the Biden debate and state on message, inflation, immigration, inflation, immigration,
on message all the time. He was awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
As president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect,
and defend unquote the Constitute. What do you say to
voters who believe that you violated that oath through your
actions and inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll
do it again.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Well, I don't think you many believe that. And let
me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth, we
had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. On
January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth, we
had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever.
On January sixth, we were respected all over the world.
All over the world, we were respected. And then he
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comes in and we're now left that we're like a
bunch of stupid people. That what happened to the United States'
reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which
I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about where
he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat
him fair and square.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That was awesome, Hey, talk about January six of course,
stupid question, immediate pivot to stay on message, Trump has
run a campaign like that so far. A couple of
little flare ups, but he's run a campaign like that
so far. He did a debate like that last time.
I expect him to do a debate like that tomorrow night.
(10:11):
Unlike my producer Matt, I'm extremely hopeful that tomorrow night
will go well. But my producer Matt does bring up
a good point we're talking before the show. He has
concerns about ABC. It is hard, if not impossible, to
find a major network that is more biased than ABC.
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ABC is owned by Disney. You know who Dana Walden is.
She's a Disney executive. Yeah, she tats Donald Trump. Also,
let's talk about the moderators. Lindsey Davis, this lady you
are about to see right here, is going to be
moderating the debate tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
As you know, President, former president Donald Trump is expected
to go campaign in Howard, Michigan tomorrow. Many people are
aware that a month ago in Howel KKK protesters march
in the streets with the white robes on and suggested
that they support Donald Trump. I'm curious if you make
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anything about that connection in his going in particular to
Howell tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's the host of the debate tomorrow night. One of
the hosts casually making a little KKK reference when it
comes to Donald Trump. So he's going to be up
against ABC, he's going to be up against the moderator,
and he'll be up against Dome. But this was kind
of the case last time, Dana Bash, Jake Tapper actually
didn't do that terrible of a job. This time, in
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their desperation, I expect them to be much more biased
and vicious in whatever ways they can be. It'll all
be up to Trump because they're all going to be
against him. Can he stay on message and on point
like he did last time? And I think he will.
Can he do that? If he can, I think we're
looking good. If you can't, we're not. And let's also
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remember this. Maybe you'll find this comforting. Maybe this will
make you have a hard time going to sleep tonight.
You know, Dome's going to run on fear, racist, on
all this other stuff that's in her entire message is
going to be Republicans hate women, Republicans are racist. Trump's
entire message will be inflation, immigration, secure the border. It'll
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all be about policy things Dome doesn't even have policies.
There is a chance that Dome understands the voting public
of this country better than Trump does. Now. There's a
chance that's what people want. There's a chance that's what
works now. And if that's the case, we're pretty much screwed.
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But we'll find out in November, and the debate's going
to be exciting. I can't wait. All that may have
made you uncomfortable or not, but I'm right. John Phillips
knows Dome very very well. He's known about Kamala Harris's
political career, has talked about it forevery That's a great
show out of California. We're going to talk to John
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Speaker 3 (14:06):
We'll be back.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
You're very different in the policies that you've supported in
the past. You're considered the most liberal United States senator.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Somebody said that, and it actually was Mike Pence on
the debate stage.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But yeah, well, actually the nonpartisan gov Track has rated
you as the most liberal senator. You supported the Green
New Deal, you supported Medicare for All.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm trying to figure out if she is as far
left as her voting record is, or if she is,
as I suspect, simply whatever she needs to be for
the next election. I actually have this theory, and I
know John Phillips is already listening, because John Phillips are
the gret John fil Show joins us now so John,
I might as well just throw my theory directly to you.
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I have this theory, and no, you can blast holes
in it. Were friends that if Dome was actually running
to be a city councilman in rural Wyoming, that she
would have policy positions that are to the right of me.
I don't think she has any policy positions outside of
whatever she needs for the next election. Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think you're right. This was the lane that was
open to her.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
She was someone who cut her teeth in San Francisco politics,
and when you cut your teeth in San Francisco politics,
you have to be a certain type of person, and
she was that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And then when she.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
Ran statewide, she moderated her beliefs and moved a little
bit to the right and was in a very contested
election for Attorney General and was able to win that election.
And then when she was running in the Democratic primary,
she thought the available lane was on the laft, so
that's where she went. Now she's got to move to
the center, and that what she's going to do. The
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one consistent through line with her is that she wants
to accumulate as much power as possible, and those people
are dangerous because when that's your one loyalty, you'll do
all kinds of strange things that aren't necessarily predictable.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Speaking of strange things she's done. You know, No, we
don't have to go down that route. But let's let's
do this. Tell me, tell me how this debate goes
wrong for Trump? John? Now you know everyone knows what
a cynic I am. I don't pretend to be, you know,
flowery optimist guy, but I look at the debate rules.
He can't interrupt her, so she can't do that. I'm
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speaking thing. She knows nothing about policy. Trump, even if
you hate his freaking guts, knows everything about what he
wants and knows everything about the possible Everything is set
up for Trump to do well and win, and everything's
set up for Dome to look terrible tomorrow night. So
what am I not seeing? John? What is going to
happen that whensday? We're going to show up here and
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talk about how bad it went for us? What could happen?
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Well, your assessment is correct. I think if you're Donald Trump,
what you need to do is you need to let
her talk. What's the saying? Silence is golden, but duct
tape is silver, and I'm sure he'll have the impulse
to try to run her over every time she opens
her bout. That's what he did to Joe Biden last
time around.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It didn't work.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
She has a very difficult time speaking in a coherent way.
You get a lot of word salads. You have her
on both sides of every subject that people care about
this cycle. Let her talk. If you let her talk,
you put her out in the middle of the ocean
without a life vest. Let that happen. Let nature take
its course. If you jump in and try to run
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her over, you'll look like a bully, and you'll save her.
Every time she starts to engage in one of these
word salads, every time that she contradicts herself or contradicts
a position that she took on that subject at some
point in the past. This is one of these opportunities
where less is more. Donald Trump doesn't have to win
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the debate. Donald Trump just has to be there on
stage and let her talk.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
John, You've been covering this woman, talking about this one
for a long time. I have another theory that she
is the most miserable person in America right now. Knowing
this debate is coming because she can't speak. She knows
she can't speak. She doesn't know the issues. She knows
she doesn't know the issues. It's why she does the laugh.
We all make fun of her for all the time
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that this woman has got to be in mortal fear
right now of embarrassing herself on the national stage. Am
I right?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
What I think she's looking for?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
And I think that she's going to spend a lot
of her time prepping for this debate doing the wrong things.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
She's going to look for some contrive viral moment.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
I was at the movies this weekend and there was
a guy who was in line getting ready to go
to the movies, and he was wearing a T shirt
that had her picture on it and said, let me
speak or let her speak. I forget exactly what the
phraseology was, but they're already marketing that merchandise. They're already
selling those T shirts. What she's looking for is some event,
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some exchange between her and Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Where he's rude to her.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
She's trying to get a point across, and then she
has the viral moment. Well, when you're counting on the
viral moments as opposed to the substance, you're seeing a
lot of ground to the opposition because most people, I
think aren't looking for some kind of YouTube moment. If
you're looking for a YouTube moment, you can go into
any kind of black hole you want and stay up
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all night finding them on YouTube. You don't need Kamala
Harris for it.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But that's what they're going to try to find.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
They're going to try to find a way to pay
back at her, so that she is this woman that
just won't let any man tell her what to do,
won't let a man take her speaking time, and you know,
she's this you know, feminist, this modern feminist sort of character,
and they're going to try to package her that way
as opposed to what Ryan Gurdusky calls your aunt on pills,
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which is kind of how the world sees her.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Now, you say that that's not what people want to see,
and I hope you're right, and I agree with you.
But are we sure about that? John? It's not as
if every American listens to your show or listens to
my show, or pays attention to this stuff. Are we
one hundred percent sure the American people as a whole
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they want to hear policy they're upset enough about the
price of eggs, or are we a culture now who
wants the YouTube moment?
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Well, I'm sure her crowd definitely wants it. But if
you're trying to plan something, contrive something that's supposed to
be sold as being organic, and you're not an actor
and you're not someone who does that professionally, it's very
risky because if it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Land, oh my god, you're gonna look dumb. And you
could even tell that.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
There is a certain element of the first debate where
Joe Biden when he said that you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Have the morals of an alley cat.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I think that that was supposed to be the moment
that they came up with that was going to lead
the newspapers the next day.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And because the guys demented, it didn't land.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
He stepped all over himself and it didn't work out
the way he wanted it to. It's risky to do
that because or when organic moments happen, When something happens
it's organically funny or it is you just being quick
on your feet, it's hugely beneficial because it gives you
a window in who the person is. But if you're
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trying to have this moment that was written by someone
else that is not you. It just makes you look
like you're an imposter. It makes you look like you're
uncomfortable in your own skin. And those are the problems
that pre exist for her before this debate. If I
were her or I were her team, I would just
focus on the substance. I would focus on trying to
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have some coherent plan for each of these issues, and
I would have a do no harm kind of approach.
But it looks like they're going in the opposite direction,
and she's coming in with the razzle dazzle.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have to before I let you go, John, I
have to ask grandma vodka. She's looking more and more unhinged,
and I can't honestly tell if she does have a
vodka problem, if it's a pill problem, if it's an age.
Probably here here she was, here, she was.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What advice would you give Donald Trump for the debate?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You're super close, I know, Danna, you are close in
a way. Do you think he's going to show up?
Speaker 7 (22:58):
I do, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
Do you know something I don't know?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I know cowardice when I see it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
John, You know I'm a Pelosi fan. As much as
I loathe her, We've had this talk a million times.
I wish we had ten of her on our side,
But she doesn't look and sound good anymore. Buddy.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Well, when she was Speaker of the House, she had
to be more controlled because she was speaking on behalf
of the Democratic Caucus. And now that she's no longer
Speaker of the House, and she's probably never going to
be Speaker again or aspired anty higher office again.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You're getting the real herb.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
This is the real Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi unchained.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And she's also selling the book.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
You noticed she never used to do this many interviews
when she was Speaker of the House, because you go out,
you do an interview, your point out there, then you
go back to working behind closed doors. Well, now she's
trying to stir the pot as much as humanly possible,
in addition to what you just played, In addition to
her trying to draw heat with Donald Trump, you notice
that she just can't stop kicking Joe Biden. She's doing
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interview after interview after interview where she got what she wanted.
She got this guy to drop out of the race,
give up the most powerful job in all the land,
and then she goes on television. I don't think he
wrote the letter. I don't know where that letter came from.
I don't Maybe it was Ai. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Maybe some writer wrote it. That wasn't Joe. I know Joe.
That's not Joe.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I've never been impressed with his political operation before. I mean,
she just kicks the guy in the crotch with a
stiletto weekly. She cannot stop doing it. There's no point
in continuing to attack this guy. The guy has already done,
but she just lets him have it over and over
and over again.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It's quite something.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It is something, John, Thank you brother. I can't wait
for tomorrow. Talk to you soon, all right. I can't wait.
I'm so excited. I also can't wait for the movie.
Have you seen Please tell me you've seen the previews
for Matt Walsh's new movie. Am I Racist? I just
I don't. I don't know how much better of a
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just so insanely dry. And he goes undercover with all
this DEI stuff and pretends to be one of these
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Can't go to the freaking movies anymore without paying some
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Buy tickets for it. Go, We'll be back. I'm speaking.
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Don't loves that line. She's been a huge fan of
that line every time she gets on stage, whether it's
against pens, whether she's in a crowd some people are yelling.
She loves to do I'm speaking. Now. This will be
denied her because of the muted microphone thing and the
debate tomorrow night, but she loves it. She uses it
all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, mister Vice President.
I'm speaking.
Speaker 11 (26:31):
I'm speaking. Be important if you hear the truth, mister.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't
mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation.
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Okay, okay, fine, answer now?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Can people deserve a straight answer.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I will not sit here and be lectured by the
Vice president.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
I'm speaking.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I'm about to I will not be lectured by
the vice president.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Anyway. I am curious why that's her go to line.
That has to be curious because it obviously is something.
Please they pull test everything, it's been pulled tested. They
landed on that line and they love it. Does it
work on anybody? Joining me? Now a former Democrat now
a wonderful culture, health and policy writer. Friend of the show,
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Jennifer Gallardi. Okay, Jennifer, Now, obviously all that's nails on
a chalkboard to me that I'm speaking bull crap, But
I know these people aren't speaking to me. Does that
work on people? And if so, why, Jesse?
Speaker 11 (27:35):
You're gonna let me speak? Please?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh yeah, please go ahead? Please.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
That was probably the shortest in dri I've ever gotten.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Actually, you know, I think most people already know who
they're voarding for. I don't think any of this stuff
is swaying people either way. We've talked about this so
many times on your show before, you know, kind of
has the same thing over and over again. But I
think people know who they're going to vote for, and
I'm not sure.
Speaker 11 (28:04):
The debate will make much of a difference.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
It's not like she's hiding anything like Joe Biden and
all his shills.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
We're hiding his dementia. You know, for lord knows how long.
Speaker 12 (28:13):
She's already proven she's incompetent and really can't take the
pressure of live interviews, debates, or interactions. People are either
going to vote for her. They're either going to see
that or they just don't care. I think they don't care. Right,
They've got Trump arrangement syndrome. Majority of them are single
issue voters, whether it's abortion or gaza or some other issue,
(28:34):
based in pure emotion, and are too easily swayed by
non rational arguments. So I'm speaking thing is a non
rational thing because it doesn't even speak to policy. Right,
And like I said, I don't think a lot of
them care. A majority of the Democrat voters, which are
single women, don't care. They just hear abortion and they
go off the handle. Maybe she'll have such a poor
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showing that it might sway a handful of voters and
we can hope that's enough. But she really needs to
blow it like Biden, kind of like bend it like Beckham.
I mean, at this point, she really needs to blow it.
I think to move the needle a great bit. We
see it's kind of neck and neck and got all
these poles and everything, but I'm not sure where the
people actually sit. And at this point, I think people
(29:19):
are watching the debate for sport or entertainment, right like
who'll make the first cut or who'll throw that like
fatal jab And we're waiting for the social media snippet
that will go viral, think thing that will change people's minds,
But I really think people are already set where they are.
One thing I'd like to see Trump do is somehow
take her by surprise hit a topic she's unprepared for.
(29:43):
He can't control the questions, and obviously the media is
going to spoon feed things about border crime and the economy,
which are all very important, but we've heard them the
candidates talk about these ad nauseum, and they're things that
she expects, so somehow she'll be slightly prepared for them.
But I think if Trump can get in some talking
points that seem to unify America, like we witnessed when
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RFKJ came on stage at his rally in Arizona, I
mean that they went off the charts, things about health right,
the things that RFKJ has been talking about unity and
take some cues from his campaign. You know, I felt
such joy and optimism when I saw those two together,
and I think the Right needs to use some of
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that emotional momentum that they've built up that we sometimes
forget that people are swayed by the story and by emotion.
I read an article from one of our kj's staffers
about being how being at that rally was so uplifting.
He felt so welcomed, Everybody was excited. He said, everybody
was kind, and they're like, we've been going for rf
(30:48):
We've been hoping he'd be, he'd join and and they're
really positive.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
The same with the Tucker tour.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
I had a friend that was in the VIP room
working at when uh he went on stage with Ramaswami
and RFK, who was unexpected at that event, and she
said it was just off the charts. It was like
bigger than a rock concert. That people were just so
uplifted and optimistic. And then I look at some social
media feeds from people in my past, like the old
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kind of progressive world, and they're living a totally different life.
They're not seeing any of this. You know, they're worried
about gays having the right to marry and use women's
bodies for baby making, and they've been.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Told Trump will roll all this back.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
So I think if Trump can bring in some of
the health stuff, some of the unifying things and make
it seem like we're not all a bunch of like
racists that they tell everybody we are. But it is
kind of coming down to this Civil war type mentality.
I think one side thinks certain practice practices are morally indefensible,
and it's which vision of America is going to move forward.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Jennifer, you say that Dome has to blow it, you know,
Kamala Harris has to get up there and blow it
in some way for it to the meter. And granted,
given her history, she certainly could. But what would Trump
do to blow it with maybe the undecided voter who's watching.
What would be a mistake if he goes what's he
(32:13):
have to do to really make a mistake with someone
who's maybe you're a flimsy damn kind of mad about
the price of eggs. But he can really step on
it and go too far with one Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
We've seen from the past debate that the MIC's turned
off when they're not speaking is helpful to Trump. It
restrains him, it controls him. And most people who hate
Trump hate him because of his personality, hate him because
of his off color comments. Right, So, I think if
he can do what he did.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
In the debate with Biden, which is maintained composure.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
Stick to the issues, use that unifying theme that RFKJ
brings to the party, bring in some of those people
that I mean, there were a lot of lefties in
and right.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
Now he's left and right.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
You know, I kind of do fall somewhere in the middle,
even though the left would probably, you know, automatically say
I'm some right wing fascists, but there's some living in California.
I appreciate the environment. I'm kind of an RFKJ person
when it comes to environment and health. So I think
if he can just keep himself metered, keep with the
unifying thing. A friend of mine says to me that
(33:23):
he thinks everyone is worn out by Trump and all
of the theater, and I agree, but I'd say we're
all worn out by all of it, and I know
we just want to kind of get it over with
and go on to deal with the impending chaos, because
you know, no matter who wins, it's going to be insane.
The losing side will claim the election was stolen no
matter what you know. The right we'll say it was
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voter fraud, which will happen, I'm certain of it. And
the left is going to keep screaming Russia, Russia, Russia, which,
like I think you've already said in some of your episodes,
they've already been doing. And I'll just reiterate what I
said to you in my first episode with you, Jesse,
is that I think this country has a cancer. And
I'm not saying it's terminal, but it a Trump victory
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will only kind of be a form of radiation. So
as soon as we stop applying pressure, it's going to
take over the left, the progressive movement will take over.
And so many people have already caved to these kind
of distorted norms and ideas. Some are even allowing kids
to chop off their genitalia.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
I mean a lot of people.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
Disagree with that, but how have we even let it
get this far? So I think our optimism and hope
really has to lie in the fact that the past
four or five years has exposed a lot about who
people are, and now we can decide who we want
to build communities and relationships and our families with. And
you know, when this election is over doesn't matter. We'll
keep fighting for what's true and good and right and
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beautiful and we just have to create that for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you have an icemaker at home, like a portable
one on your account?
Speaker 11 (34:54):
No, I'm hoping you were.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Going to send me one like as a gifts. I
don't know what I would.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
They're pretty expensive. They're pretty expensive. Mine was like forty dollars.
It was like thirty five forty dollars. But I have
unlimited ice now on my counter, so I'll just check
it in to see if maybe you had. But if
you don't, I'm sorry. Best of luck to you, Jennifer.
We'll talk to you again soon. We have timber Shehett,
member of Congress, coming on in a moment. He's going
(35:21):
to talk about the money. You know, beyond the debates
and the presidential stuff, there are huge things, tangible things
that are happening now and they mean something for your life.
Is the GOP going to get anything for Sorry I
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to get anything? In these budget negotiations? We'll talk to
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that's been a bunch of good news. I'm excited about
(36:43):
the debate tomorrow and Trump's gonna slaughter Kamala Harris and
it'll be fun to watch. But the bad news is
Congress is back in session. That's freaking awful. That usually
means that you're about to get poorer and you're gonna
get less free. Joining me now, one of the good
people there, Congressman timber Shit out of Tennis. He's also
in the House Oversight, Foreign Affairs and Transportation Committee, which
(37:04):
that's going to matter here in a moment. Congressman, Well,
Congress is meeting now, and of course we're hearing about
the Save Act and a budget, and can you give
us an update on what's happening there.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Yeah, our leadership is looking at pursuing the CR Continued Resolution,
which is really just us foregoing our duty, our constitutional
duty of passing a budget. So we just pass a
funding package that basically is just a continuation of the
bad policies before. But now we've come up with this
(37:38):
idea of putting a Save Act on it which verifies
their American citizens, and you know, coming upon a presidential election,
people that are voting, of course, would.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Be American citizens.
Speaker 13 (37:50):
We've already sent that already over to the Senate once
before Schumer.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's sitting on Schumer's desk.
Speaker 13 (37:56):
I don't know that it does a whole lot of
good right now, Frankly, don't think we've got the votes
even pass it, because it's forcing people like myself to
vote for terrible Nancy Pelosi spending packages, and you know,
it just doesn't make a lot of sense. So we
can pass this Save Act, which there's no way that
(38:17):
it could be enforced in time before these presidential elections anyway,
So I would think we just focus on passing a
good spending bill.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Why does that never happen? Is that just a thing
of the pass because, as you rightly pointed out, we've
been so slow frog boiled for so long. Any c
R is a scandal in and of itself. That should
not be something that ever happens. And that's all we
ever get now, just so no one ever has to
make a tough cut on anything. Just keep blowing through
all of our money while the Titanic slips beneath the waves.
(38:50):
Are we ever going to actually get a budget passed anymore?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I would hope we would.
Speaker 13 (38:55):
Jody Harrington's got a committee that does it that, you know,
the budget Committee. I would say no, in thirty years,
we haven't had the guts to do.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
It, and that's by design. Let's just be honest.
Speaker 13 (39:07):
They don't want to pass single spending bills like we
do in Tennessee, and the legislature they make fun of Tennessee,
but it does have a balanced budget constitutionally mandated as
a matter of fact. And they continue down this path
and the big boys don't want to have to justify
their spending packages. And that's and they'll say, virtue, we
could be here all night. Well, dad, let's stay here
(39:29):
all night. If you know everything I've got that I
put forward I can defend. I say we should make
everybody defend all their spending. And I think that would
that go a long ways.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Congressman, you are also on the House Foreign Affairs Committee
and you have a new report out about the Afghanistan withdrawal.
What's in it, Well, it just shows.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
The disaster that the Biden administration is and they're continued
myth that you know, they did everything they could and
they try to blame it on Trump's and then the
you know, the legacy media or just lap dogs for
this administration, how they put them in power.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
They're the reason they're there, and they're going.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
To just keep going with the lie.
Speaker 13 (40:18):
And you know that's why you got an adult old
man in the White House right now. That the press
is even even request in his presence anywhere, and they've
covered for him the last everybody says three years has
really been longer than that.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
They covered him his an office, and it's going to
show that.
Speaker 13 (40:37):
In fact, that the suicide bomber that killed those last
thirteen people was you know, in a sniper's sites more
than once the military intelligent lack of intelligence, I would say,
called him off of that shot. And it's going to
show that we had a program in place that would
(40:59):
get people out before the Taliban took over, and then
they started implementing that program after the Taliban had already
took over. And you know, it's just on down the
line of just the ridiculous things this administration has done,
and the cover that they've received from the media is
just is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
It's truly disgusting.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It is. Do you have a portable wistmaker at your
house or maybe even in the office. We just got
a portable wistmaker and it's really changed my life. No,
I don't I do at the house.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Actually I don't know.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
It's not portable, it's I had one put in. You know,
there was when I bought this old house. That had
those one of those disposals that you could you would
crush all your trash up into a cube, which you
know with the seventies hipsters, all the doctors when I
was a kid, all my buddies whose dad, mom and
dad from one of them was a doctor, would get
(41:56):
one of those. And and we had that space under
our counter. And I said, yank that stupid thing out.
I said, put a freaking ice miker in there. That
has changed my world.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
There really is dag God.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
That I've been trying to tell people for a month
now that it's life changing. No one wants to listen.
Hopefully you'll listen to the congressman. Thank you, sir. I
appreciate it. You heard it from the words's mouth. It's
life changing. He got a permanent one put in Gosh,
that actually made me feel terrible. Minus is this little
portable thing. It sits right on the counter. Well, I
don't I don't want to give too much away. We
(42:31):
may or may not have a big reveal coming soon.
When it comes to that. I wanted to ask the
tough questions. All right, all right, I used to have
light in the mood. Next, all right, it's time to
(42:52):
lighten the mood. Before we do that, I want I
want you to know something I realized Tomorrow night's debate
is going to be going on when our normal time
slot is here, and I know what you're gonna be
thinking watching this debate. You're gonna be thinking every single second,
I wonder what Jesse thinks. I wonder what Jesse thinks.
Of course that's what you're gonna be thinking. Well, in
all says this, I am going to do a mini
(43:16):
little debate thoughts thing on my YouTube channel after the debate.
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(43:37):
for light in the mood. Apparently fishing can be a
contact sport. By the way, the kid was totally fine.
(44:09):
I don't know if he's ever gonna want to go
fishing again, but either way, I see them all
It's time to preview the debate. Jennifer Galardi is here
to help with that. John Phillips is here to help
with that. We talked to timber Shit, member of Congress.
I believe they're getting ready to blow a bunch of
your money. There is so much to get to tonight.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
But I'm right, all right, let's talk about the debate.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
It is tomorrow night. I'm so freaking excited about it.
This is heaven for political nerds like you and me.
I was having a cup of coffee with the wife
this morning. We were just joking about life and talking
about things. I said, Oh, the debate's tomorrow, and she
got excited too. Everyone's excited. It's fired up time. It's
game time, baby. And look, before we get to the rules,
(00:51):
this debate is a really big deal. It's a really, really,
really big deal. Why Because elections are really about you
or me. I'm talking about general elections, the primary process
that's really about you and me. When it comes to
general elections for the presidency, they're about the norms, the
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normas of the world, the normal people in your life,
your friends, neighbors, relatives who don't really pay attention to politics.
I don't like politics. He catch the game. It's those people.
They are the people, sadly, who decide who wins general elections,
and the norm and Norma they will tune out of
(01:36):
life of politics there they'll just act too busy, but
they will tune in for the presidential debates, especially the
first debates between the candidates. It's why after Joe Biden
pooped his pants on stage during the last debate, every
Democrat pundit and politician went on television and they were
(01:57):
practically crying, they were giving his eulogy. Why because they
knew it was a big deal that Joe Biden got
on stage that night and pooped his pants. It wasn't
a small deal, it wasn't a twenty four hour outrage.
Democrats knew that norm and Norma were watching the president
and finding out what you've known for three and a
(02:19):
half years, that he's not a function to adult. And
they knew that was it for them. And tomorrow night,
the debate on ABC is a big deal because as
wired in as you are to politics, you know the
headlines and the players, you know the scandals, you know
all this. That's how tuned out Norman Norma are they
(02:39):
have no idea, but tomorrow they will be tuned in,
and as unbelievable as this is, you should understand this.
There will be many undecided voters who tune in to
that debate tomorrow night, and they will decide who to
(03:00):
vote for based on what they see at the debate
tomorrow night, many of them, I know, for nerds like you,
like me. It's crazy. What do you mean you're trying
to decide? How do you not know? We know everything?
I get it, But that's the reality. The debate's huge.
So let's talk about the debate. It's on ABC. That's
a disaster. Get to that in a moment. But the
(03:23):
rules are wonderful. The rules that were set up to
help Joe Biden. Remember these are the Biden rules that
Trump agreed to. They were set up to help Joe Biden.
They ended up hurting Joe Biden, and now they're bad
for Dome. You're not allowed notes. That's going to kill Dome.
It won't kill Trump. He knows all this stuff. They're
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not allowed to confer with campaign staffers. Again, that won't
matter to Trump. He doesn't listen to his people. Halftime anyways,
she's kind of his own guy. Dome needs someone to
tell her what to say. That's going to hurt Dome.
Every part of this debate hurts Dome, and the part
of the debate that hurts her the most is that
they can't interrupt each other. You see, Dome, she needs
(04:10):
to be interrupted. She has to be interrupted. She has
to because all she has is that I'm speaking line.
We've talked about this before. That's all she has. That's
the only thing she can use. She doesn't have a personality.
And let's again go back to the norms and norms
who will be watching, who may decide the election tomorrow night,
(04:30):
may decide the election. If you're just now getting introduced
to Kamala Harris because they know Trump. Everyone knows Trump.
Even the norms know Trump by now. If you're just
now getting introduced, maybe you don't like Trump. You're not sure,
you know, gas is too high, you're kind of undecided,
if you're one of those weirdos right now. Dome is
not necessarily a known quantity. You know who she is.
(04:53):
But imagine tuning in and hearing this for the first time.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
We talked about those lids. So here's what I said
to her. Here's what I said to her. So you
know how those lids are, because this is I'm just
gonna speak, Okay, So this is it. So you know
how those lids on those Starbucks cups? They're white, right,
and so if you wear a lipstick, they get all
over the lid. And so then I find myself in
(05:20):
meetings if I'm the only woman, and that's kind of
and so I keep taking the lid off and having
my cup out so that I don't have that big
lipstick mark on the lid. So I said, can we
do something about the color of the lid. So that
was that conversation.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Yeah, but what will tomorrow night be about? And clearly
won't be about Dome's personality? If it is, she's finished,
If she can't have Trump interrupt her and he can't,
then what they will have. The only thing they will
have is pre a series of pre packaged speeches, and
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they'll have no choice but to crop their fingers and
pray Dome memorize those. Remember, this is exactly what they tried.
If you were paying attention, this is what they tried
for Joe Biden during the debate. For the same reason
he can't think he can't talk, but hey, let's get
him to memorize this. Just hey, Joe, whenever they bring
up anything abortion, whatever, the foreign policy. Here, Joe, here's
(06:30):
what you talk about. And they were banking on him
just being able to regurgitate what they'd written down for
him and get away with it. That's what Dome's going
to try tomorrow. And it will all be based on fear.
That's what it'll all be. It'll all be based on
be afraid of Trump for this reason or afraid of
Trump for that reason. That's how they operate. That's how
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Dome has always operated. Remember when she was flailing in
that Democrat primary and she had no chance to even
take down Joe Biden, but she knew she had to
swing for the fences. So what was her home run swing?
What was her home run shot? She was desperate? Well,
of course, racism.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I would like to speak on the issue of raight.
I'm going to now direct this at Vice President Biden.
I do not believe you are a racist, and I
agree with you when you commit yourself to the importance
of finding common ground. But I also believe and it's personal,
and I was actually very it was hurtful to hear
(07:33):
you talk about the reputations of two United States senators
who built their reputations and career on the segregation of
race in this country. And it was not only that,
but you also worked with them to a post busing.
And you know, there was a little girl in California
(07:56):
who was part of the second class to integrate her
public school, and she was busted to school every day.
And that little girl was me.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
That's all she's got, That's all that got. And she'll
have a heaping helping of that tomorrow. So what can
Trump do? What should Trump do?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Well?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Trump has historically done very well in the debates, set
aside the first debate with Joe Biden last election. Trump
does well in debates. That happens. He's a charismatic guy,
he is. He loves being on stage, he loves crowds,
he loves speeches, he loves cameras. It's what he's always done.
So he's completely comfortable up there. But how comfortable is
(08:39):
he is? The question what I mean by that is
is he going to go completely off script or is
he going to do what he did last time during
the Biden debate and state on message, inflation, immigration, inflation, immigration,
on message all the time. He was awesome.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
As president, you swore an oath to quote, preserve, protect,
and defend unquote the Constitute. What do you say to
voters who believe that you violated that oath through your
actions and inaction on January sixth, and worry that you'll
do it again.
Speaker 6 (09:07):
Well, I don't think you many believe that. And let
me tell you about January sixth. On January sixth, we
had a great border, nobody coming through, very few. On
January sixth, we were energy independent. On January sixth, we
had the lowest taxes ever. We had the lowest regulations ever.
On January sixth, we were respected all over the world.
All over the world, we were respected. And then he
(09:29):
comes in and we're now left that we're like a
bunch of stupid people. That what happened to the United States'
reputation under this man's leadership is horrible, including weaponization, which
I'm sure at some point you'll be talking about where
he goes after his political opponent because he can't beat
him fair and square.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
That was awesome, Hey, talk about January six of course,
stupid question, immediate pivot to stay on message, Trump has
run a campaign like that so far. A couple of
little flare ups, but he's run a campaign like that
so far. He did a debate like that last time.
I expect him to do a debate like that tomorrow night.
(10:11):
Unlike my producer Matt, I'm extremely hopeful that tomorrow night
will go well. But my producer Matt does bring up
a good point we're talking before the show. He has
concerns about ABC. It is hard, if not impossible, to
find a major network that is more biased than ABC.
(10:32):
ABC is owned by Disney. You know who Dana Walden is.
She's a Disney executive. Yeah, she tats Donald Trump. Also,
let's talk about the moderators. Lindsey Davis, this lady you
are about to see right here, is going to be
moderating the debate tomorrow night.
Speaker 7 (10:53):
As you know, President, former president Donald Trump is expected
to go campaign in Howard, Michigan tomorrow. Many people are
aware that a month ago in Howel KKK protesters march
in the streets with the white robes on and suggested
that they support Donald Trump. I'm curious if you make
(11:14):
anything about that connection in his going in particular to
Howell tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
That's the host of the debate tomorrow night. One of
the hosts casually making a little KKK reference when it
comes to Donald Trump. So he's going to be up
against ABC, he's going to be up against the moderator,
and he'll be up against Dome. But this was kind
of the case last time, Dana Bash, Jake Tapper actually
didn't do that terrible of a job. This time, in
(11:42):
their desperation, I expect them to be much more biased
and vicious in whatever ways they can be. It'll all
be up to Trump because they're all going to be
against him. Can he stay on message and on point
like he did last time? And I think he will.
Can he do that? If he can, I think we're
looking good. If you can't, we're not. And let's also
(12:05):
remember this. Maybe you'll find this comforting. Maybe this will
make you have a hard time going to sleep tonight.
You know, Dome's going to run on fear, racist, on
all this other stuff that's in her entire message is
going to be Republicans hate women, Republicans are racist. Trump's
entire message will be inflation, immigration, secure the border. It'll
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all be about policy things Dome doesn't even have policies.
There is a chance that Dome understands the voting public
of this country better than Trump does. Now. There's a
chance that's what people want. There's a chance that's what
works now. And if that's the case, we're pretty much screwed.
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But we'll find out in November, and the debate's going
to be exciting. I can't wait. All that may have
made you uncomfortable or not, but I'm right. John Phillips
knows Dome very very well. He's known about Kamala Harris's
political career, has talked about it forevery That's a great
show out of California. We're going to talk to John
(13:12):
Phillips in a moment. Before we talk to John Phillips,
I want to talk to you about going to sleep
at night, well, not just going to sleep, waking up
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Speaker 3 (14:06):
We'll be back.
Speaker 8 (14:15):
You're very different in the policies that you've supported in
the past. You're considered the most liberal United States senator.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Somebody said that, and it actually was Mike Pence on
the debate stage.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
But yeah, well, actually the nonpartisan gov Track has rated
you as the most liberal senator. You supported the Green
New Deal, you supported Medicare for All.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm trying to figure out if she is as far
left as her voting record is, or if she is,
as I suspect, simply whatever she needs to be for
the next election. I actually have this theory, and I
know John Phillips is already listening, because John Phillips are
the gret John fil Show joins us now so John,
I might as well just throw my theory directly to you.
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I have this theory, and no, you can blast holes
in it. Were friends that if Dome was actually running
to be a city councilman in rural Wyoming, that she
would have policy positions that are to the right of me.
I don't think she has any policy positions outside of
whatever she needs for the next election. Am I crazy?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think you're right. This was the lane that was
open to her.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
She was someone who cut her teeth in San Francisco politics,
and when you cut your teeth in San Francisco politics,
you have to be a certain type of person, and
she was that.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
And then when she.
Speaker 9 (15:39):
Ran statewide, she moderated her beliefs and moved a little
bit to the right and was in a very contested
election for Attorney General and was able to win that election.
And then when she was running in the Democratic primary,
she thought the available lane was on the laft, so
that's where she went. Now she's got to move to
the center, and that what she's going to do. The
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one consistent through line with her is that she wants
to accumulate as much power as possible, and those people
are dangerous because when that's your one loyalty, you'll do
all kinds of strange things that aren't necessarily predictable.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Speaking of strange things she's done. You know, No, we
don't have to go down that route. But let's let's
do this. Tell me, tell me how this debate goes
wrong for Trump? John? Now you know everyone knows what
a cynic I am. I don't pretend to be, you know,
flowery optimist guy, but I look at the debate rules.
He can't interrupt her, so she can't do that. I'm
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speaking thing. She knows nothing about policy. Trump, even if
you hate his freaking guts, knows everything about what he
wants and knows everything about the possible Everything is set
up for Trump to do well and win, and everything's
set up for Dome to look terrible tomorrow night. So
what am I not seeing? John? What is going to
happen that whensday? We're going to show up here and
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talk about how bad it went for us? What could happen?
Speaker 9 (17:06):
Well, your assessment is correct. I think if you're Donald Trump,
what you need to do is you need to let
her talk. What's the saying? Silence is golden, but duct
tape is silver, and I'm sure he'll have the impulse
to try to run her over every time she opens
her bout. That's what he did to Joe Biden last
time around.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It didn't work.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
She has a very difficult time speaking in a coherent way.
You get a lot of word salads. You have her
on both sides of every subject that people care about
this cycle. Let her talk. If you let her talk,
you put her out in the middle of the ocean
without a life vest. Let that happen. Let nature take
its course. If you jump in and try to run
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her over, you'll look like a bully, and you'll save her.
Every time she starts to engage in one of these
word salads, every time that she contradicts herself or contradicts
a position that she took on that subject at some
point in the past. This is one of these opportunities
where less is more. Donald Trump doesn't have to win
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the debate. Donald Trump just has to be there on
stage and let her talk.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
John, You've been covering this woman, talking about this one
for a long time. I have another theory that she
is the most miserable person in America right now. Knowing
this debate is coming because she can't speak. She knows
she can't speak. She doesn't know the issues. She knows
she doesn't know the issues. It's why she does the laugh.
We all make fun of her for all the time
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that this woman has got to be in mortal fear
right now of embarrassing herself on the national stage. Am
I right?
Speaker 4 (18:51):
What I think she's looking for?
Speaker 9 (18:53):
And I think that she's going to spend a lot
of her time prepping for this debate doing the wrong things.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
She's going to look for some contrive viral moment.
Speaker 9 (19:03):
I was at the movies this weekend and there was
a guy who was in line getting ready to go
to the movies, and he was wearing a T shirt
that had her picture on it and said, let me
speak or let her speak. I forget exactly what the
phraseology was, but they're already marketing that merchandise. They're already
selling those T shirts. What she's looking for is some event,
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some exchange between her and Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Where he's rude to her.
Speaker 9 (19:31):
She's trying to get a point across, and then she
has the viral moment. Well, when you're counting on the
viral moments as opposed to the substance, you're seeing a
lot of ground to the opposition because most people, I
think aren't looking for some kind of YouTube moment. If
you're looking for a YouTube moment, you can go into
any kind of black hole you want and stay up
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all night finding them on YouTube. You don't need Kamala
Harris for it.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
But that's what they're going to try to find.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
They're going to try to find a way to pay
back at her, so that she is this woman that
just won't let any man tell her what to do,
won't let a man take her speaking time, and you know,
she's this you know, feminist, this modern feminist sort of character,
and they're going to try to package her that way
as opposed to what Ryan Gurdusky calls your aunt on pills,
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which is kind of how the world sees her.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Now, you say that that's not what people want to see,
and I hope you're right, and I agree with you.
But are we sure about that? John? It's not as
if every American listens to your show or listens to
my show, or pays attention to this stuff. Are we
one hundred percent sure the American people as a whole
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they want to hear policy they're upset enough about the
price of eggs, or are we a culture now who
wants the YouTube moment?
Speaker 9 (20:51):
Well, I'm sure her crowd definitely wants it. But if
you're trying to plan something, contrive something that's supposed to
be sold as being organic, and you're not an actor
and you're not someone who does that professionally, it's very
risky because if it doesn't.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Land, oh my god, you're gonna look dumb. And you
could even tell that.
Speaker 9 (21:15):
There is a certain element of the first debate where
Joe Biden when he said that you.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
Have the morals of an alley cat.
Speaker 9 (21:22):
I think that that was supposed to be the moment
that they came up with that was going to lead
the newspapers the next day.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
And because the guys demented, it didn't land.
Speaker 9 (21:31):
He stepped all over himself and it didn't work out
the way he wanted it to. It's risky to do
that because or when organic moments happen, When something happens
it's organically funny or it is you just being quick
on your feet, it's hugely beneficial because it gives you
a window in who the person is. But if you're
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trying to have this moment that was written by someone
else that is not you. It just makes you look
like you're an imposter. It makes you look like you're
uncomfortable in your own skin. And those are the problems
that pre exist for her before this debate. If I
were her or I were her team, I would just
focus on the substance. I would focus on trying to
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have some coherent plan for each of these issues, and
I would have a do no harm kind of approach.
But it looks like they're going in the opposite direction,
and she's coming in with the razzle dazzle.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I have to before I let you go, John, I
have to ask grandma vodka. She's looking more and more unhinged,
and I can't honestly tell if she does have a
vodka problem, if it's a pill problem, if it's an age.
Probably here here she was, here, she was.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
What advice would you give Donald Trump for the debate?
Speaker 1 (22:49):
You're super close, I know, Danna, you are close in
a way. Do you think he's going to show up?
Speaker 7 (22:58):
I do, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 10 (23:02):
Do you know something I don't know?
Speaker 7 (23:10):
I know cowardice when I see it.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
John, You know I'm a Pelosi fan. As much as
I loathe her, We've had this talk a million times.
I wish we had ten of her on our side,
But she doesn't look and sound good anymore. Buddy.
Speaker 9 (23:28):
Well, when she was Speaker of the House, she had
to be more controlled because she was speaking on behalf
of the Democratic Caucus. And now that she's no longer
Speaker of the House, and she's probably never going to
be Speaker again or aspired anty higher office again.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
You're getting the real herb.
Speaker 9 (23:45):
This is the real Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Pelosi unchained.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And she's also selling the book.
Speaker 9 (23:54):
You noticed she never used to do this many interviews
when she was Speaker of the House, because you go out,
you do an interview, your point out there, then you
go back to working behind closed doors. Well, now she's
trying to stir the pot as much as humanly possible,
in addition to what you just played, In addition to
her trying to draw heat with Donald Trump, you notice
that she just can't stop kicking Joe Biden. She's doing
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interview after interview after interview where she got what she wanted.
She got this guy to drop out of the race,
give up the most powerful job in all the land,
and then she goes on television. I don't think he
wrote the letter. I don't know where that letter came from.
I don't Maybe it was Ai. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Maybe some writer wrote it. That wasn't Joe. I know Joe.
That's not Joe.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
I've never been impressed with his political operation before. I mean,
she just kicks the guy in the crotch with a
stiletto weekly. She cannot stop doing it. There's no point
in continuing to attack this guy. The guy has already done,
but she just lets him have it over and over
and over again.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It's quite something.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
It is something, John, Thank you brother. I can't wait
for tomorrow. Talk to you soon, all right. I can't wait.
I'm so excited. I also can't wait for the movie.
Have you seen Please tell me you've seen the previews
for Matt Walsh's new movie. Am I Racist? I just
I don't. I don't know how much better of a
(25:21):
person you could have found than Matt Walsh, because he's
just so insanely dry. And he goes undercover with all
this DEI stuff and pretends to be one of these
deioperatives in Gosh and plus you can take your whole family.
Can't go to the freaking movies anymore without paying some
company who hates you. Stick it to Hollywood. Go buy
(25:43):
some tickets to am I Racist. Take your family, take
your mom, take your dad, take your kids. It'll be
fine for everybody. Amiracist dot com is where you go.
Buy tickets for it. Go, We'll be back. I'm speaking.
(26:06):
Don't loves that line. She's been a huge fan of
that line every time she gets on stage, whether it's
against pens, whether she's in a crowd some people are yelling.
She loves to do I'm speaking. Now. This will be
denied her because of the muted microphone thing and the
debate tomorrow night, but she loves it. She uses it
all the time.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Mister Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking, mister Vice President.
I'm speaking.
Speaker 11 (26:31):
I'm speaking. Be important if you hear the truth, mister.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm speaking. Okay, if you don't
mind letting me finish, we can then have a conversation.
Speaker 11 (26:43):
Okay, okay, fine, answer now?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Can people deserve a straight answer.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I will not sit here and be lectured by the
Vice president.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
I'm speaking.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Yeah, I'm about to I will not be lectured by
the vice president.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Anyway. I am curious why that's her go to line.
That has to be curious because it obviously is something.
Please they pull test everything, it's been pulled tested. They
landed on that line and they love it. Does it
work on anybody? Joining me? Now a former Democrat now
a wonderful culture, health and policy writer. Friend of the show,
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Jennifer Gallardi. Okay, Jennifer, Now, obviously all that's nails on
a chalkboard to me that I'm speaking bull crap, But
I know these people aren't speaking to me. Does that
work on people? And if so, why, Jesse?
Speaker 11 (27:35):
You're gonna let me speak? Please?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh yeah, please go ahead? Please.
Speaker 10 (27:44):
That was probably the shortest in dri I've ever gotten.
Speaker 12 (27:46):
Actually, you know, I think most people already know who
they're voarding for. I don't think any of this stuff
is swaying people either way. We've talked about this so
many times on your show before, you know, kind of
has the same thing over and over again. But I
think people know who they're going to vote for, and
I'm not sure.
Speaker 11 (28:04):
The debate will make much of a difference.
Speaker 12 (28:07):
It's not like she's hiding anything like Joe Biden and
all his shills.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
We're hiding his dementia. You know, for lord knows how long.
Speaker 12 (28:13):
She's already proven she's incompetent and really can't take the
pressure of live interviews, debates, or interactions. People are either
going to vote for her. They're either going to see
that or they just don't care. I think they don't care. Right,
They've got Trump arrangement syndrome. Majority of them are single
issue voters, whether it's abortion or gaza or some other issue,
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based in pure emotion, and are too easily swayed by
non rational arguments. So I'm speaking thing is a non
rational thing because it doesn't even speak to policy. Right,
And like I said, I don't think a lot of
them care. A majority of the Democrat voters, which are
single women, don't care. They just hear abortion and they
go off the handle. Maybe she'll have such a poor
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showing that it might sway a handful of voters and
we can hope that's enough. But she really needs to
blow it like Biden, kind of like bend it like Beckham.
I mean, at this point, she really needs to blow it.
I think to move the needle a great bit. We
see it's kind of neck and neck and got all
these poles and everything, but I'm not sure where the
people actually sit. And at this point, I think people
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are watching the debate for sport or entertainment, right like
who'll make the first cut or who'll throw that like
fatal jab And we're waiting for the social media snippet
that will go viral, think thing that will change people's minds,
But I really think people are already set where they are.
One thing I'd like to see Trump do is somehow
take her by surprise hit a topic she's unprepared for.
(29:43):
He can't control the questions, and obviously the media is
going to spoon feed things about border crime and the economy,
which are all very important, but we've heard them the
candidates talk about these ad nauseum, and they're things that
she expects, so somehow she'll be slightly prepared for them.
But I think if Trump can get in some talking
points that seem to unify America, like we witnessed when
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RFKJ came on stage at his rally in Arizona, I
mean that they went off the charts, things about health right,
the things that RFKJ has been talking about unity and
take some cues from his campaign. You know, I felt
such joy and optimism when I saw those two together,
and I think the Right needs to use some of
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that emotional momentum that they've built up that we sometimes
forget that people are swayed by the story and by emotion.
I read an article from one of our kj's staffers
about being how being at that rally was so uplifting.
He felt so welcomed, Everybody was excited. He said, everybody
was kind, and they're like, we've been going for rf
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We've been hoping he'd be, he'd join and and they're
really positive.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
The same with the Tucker tour.
Speaker 12 (30:54):
I had a friend that was in the VIP room
working at when uh he went on stage with Ramaswami
and RFK, who was unexpected at that event, and she
said it was just off the charts. It was like
bigger than a rock concert. That people were just so
uplifted and optimistic. And then I look at some social
media feeds from people in my past, like the old
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kind of progressive world, and they're living a totally different life.
They're not seeing any of this. You know, they're worried
about gays having the right to marry and use women's
bodies for baby making, and they've been.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
Told Trump will roll all this back.
Speaker 12 (31:29):
So I think if Trump can bring in some of
the health stuff, some of the unifying things and make
it seem like we're not all a bunch of like
racists that they tell everybody we are. But it is
kind of coming down to this Civil war type mentality.
I think one side thinks certain practice practices are morally indefensible,
and it's which vision of America is going to move forward.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
Jennifer, you say that Dome has to blow it, you know,
Kamala Harris has to get up there and blow it
in some way for it to the meter. And granted,
given her history, she certainly could. But what would Trump
do to blow it with maybe the undecided voter who's watching.
What would be a mistake if he goes what's he
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have to do to really make a mistake with someone
who's maybe you're a flimsy damn kind of mad about
the price of eggs. But he can really step on
it and go too far with one Well, I think.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
We've seen from the past debate that the MIC's turned
off when they're not speaking is helpful to Trump. It
restrains him, it controls him. And most people who hate
Trump hate him because of his personality, hate him because
of his off color comments. Right, So, I think if
he can do what he did.
Speaker 11 (32:44):
In the debate with Biden, which is maintained composure.
Speaker 12 (32:47):
Stick to the issues, use that unifying theme that RFKJ
brings to the party, bring in some of those people
that I mean, there were a lot of lefties in
and right.
Speaker 11 (32:59):
Now he's left and right.
Speaker 12 (33:01):
You know, I kind of do fall somewhere in the middle,
even though the left would probably, you know, automatically say
I'm some right wing fascists, but there's some living in California.
I appreciate the environment. I'm kind of an RFKJ person
when it comes to environment and health. So I think
if he can just keep himself metered, keep with the
unifying thing. A friend of mine says to me that
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he thinks everyone is worn out by Trump and all
of the theater, and I agree, but I'd say we're
all worn out by all of it, and I know
we just want to kind of get it over with
and go on to deal with the impending chaos, because
you know, no matter who wins, it's going to be insane.
The losing side will claim the election was stolen no
matter what you know. The right we'll say it was
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voter fraud, which will happen, I'm certain of it. And
the left is going to keep screaming Russia, Russia, Russia, which,
like I think you've already said in some of your episodes,
they've already been doing. And I'll just reiterate what I
said to you in my first episode with you, Jesse,
is that I think this country has a cancer. And
I'm not saying it's terminal, but it a Trump victory
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will only kind of be a form of radiation. So
as soon as we stop applying pressure, it's going to
take over the left, the progressive movement will take over.
And so many people have already caved to these kind
of distorted norms and ideas. Some are even allowing kids
to chop off their genitalia.
Speaker 11 (34:22):
I mean a lot of people.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
Disagree with that, but how have we even let it
get this far? So I think our optimism and hope
really has to lie in the fact that the past
four or five years has exposed a lot about who
people are, and now we can decide who we want
to build communities and relationships and our families with. And
you know, when this election is over doesn't matter. We'll
keep fighting for what's true and good and right and
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beautiful and we just have to create that for ourselves.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Do you have an icemaker at home, like a portable
one on your account?
Speaker 11 (34:54):
No, I'm hoping you were.
Speaker 10 (34:55):
Going to send me one like as a gifts. I
don't know what I would.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
They're pretty expensive. They're pretty expensive. Mine was like forty dollars.
It was like thirty five forty dollars. But I have
unlimited ice now on my counter, so I'll just check
it in to see if maybe you had. But if
you don't, I'm sorry. Best of luck to you, Jennifer.
We'll talk to you again soon. We have timber Shehett,
member of Congress, coming on in a moment. He's going
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that's been a bunch of good news. I'm excited about
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the debate tomorrow and Trump's gonna slaughter Kamala Harris and
it'll be fun to watch. But the bad news is
Congress is back in session. That's freaking awful. That usually
means that you're about to get poorer and you're gonna
get less free. Joining me now, one of the good
people there, Congressman timber Shit out of Tennis. He's also
in the House Oversight, Foreign Affairs and Transportation Committee, which
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that's going to matter here in a moment. Congressman, Well,
Congress is meeting now, and of course we're hearing about
the Save Act and a budget, and can you give
us an update on what's happening there.
Speaker 13 (37:16):
Yeah, our leadership is looking at pursuing the CR Continued Resolution,
which is really just us foregoing our duty, our constitutional
duty of passing a budget. So we just pass a
funding package that basically is just a continuation of the
bad policies before. But now we've come up with this
(37:38):
idea of putting a Save Act on it which verifies
their American citizens, and you know, coming upon a presidential election,
people that are voting, of course, would.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Be American citizens.
Speaker 13 (37:50):
We've already sent that already over to the Senate once
before Schumer.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
It's sitting on Schumer's desk.
Speaker 13 (37:56):
I don't know that it does a whole lot of
good right now, Frankly, don't think we've got the votes
even pass it, because it's forcing people like myself to
vote for terrible Nancy Pelosi spending packages, and you know,
it just doesn't make a lot of sense. So we
can pass this Save Act, which there's no way that
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it could be enforced in time before these presidential elections anyway,
So I would think we just focus on passing a
good spending bill.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Why does that never happen? Is that just a thing
of the pass because, as you rightly pointed out, we've
been so slow frog boiled for so long. Any c
R is a scandal in and of itself. That should
not be something that ever happens. And that's all we
ever get now, just so no one ever has to
make a tough cut on anything. Just keep blowing through
all of our money while the Titanic slips beneath the waves.
(38:50):
Are we ever going to actually get a budget passed anymore?
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I would hope we would.
Speaker 13 (38:55):
Jody Harrington's got a committee that does it that, you know,
the budget Committee. I would say no, in thirty years,
we haven't had the guts to do.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
It, and that's by design. Let's just be honest.
Speaker 13 (39:07):
They don't want to pass single spending bills like we
do in Tennessee, and the legislature they make fun of Tennessee,
but it does have a balanced budget constitutionally mandated as
a matter of fact. And they continue down this path
and the big boys don't want to have to justify
their spending packages. And that's and they'll say, virtue, we
could be here all night. Well, dad, let's stay here
(39:29):
all night. If you know everything I've got that I
put forward I can defend. I say we should make
everybody defend all their spending. And I think that would
that go a long ways.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Congressman, you are also on the House Foreign Affairs Committee
and you have a new report out about the Afghanistan withdrawal.
What's in it, Well, it just shows.
Speaker 13 (39:54):
The disaster that the Biden administration is and they're continued
myth that you know, they did everything they could and
they try to blame it on Trump's and then the
you know, the legacy media or just lap dogs for
this administration, how they put them in power.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
They're the reason they're there, and they're going.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
To just keep going with the lie.
Speaker 13 (40:18):
And you know that's why you got an adult old
man in the White House right now. That the press
is even even request in his presence anywhere, and they've
covered for him the last everybody says three years has
really been longer than that.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
They covered him his an office, and it's going to
show that.
Speaker 13 (40:37):
In fact, that the suicide bomber that killed those last
thirteen people was you know, in a sniper's sites more
than once the military intelligent lack of intelligence, I would say,
called him off of that shot. And it's going to
show that we had a program in place that would
(40:59):
get people out before the Taliban took over, and then
they started implementing that program after the Taliban had already
took over. And you know, it's just on down the
line of just the ridiculous things this administration has done,
and the cover that they've received from the media is
just is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (41:19):
It's truly disgusting.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
It is. Do you have a portable wistmaker at your
house or maybe even in the office. We just got
a portable wistmaker and it's really changed my life. No,
I don't I do at the house.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Actually I don't know.
Speaker 13 (41:36):
It's not portable, it's I had one put in. You know,
there was when I bought this old house. That had
those one of those disposals that you could you would
crush all your trash up into a cube, which you
know with the seventies hipsters, all the doctors when I
was a kid, all my buddies whose dad, mom and
dad from one of them was a doctor, would get
(41:56):
one of those. And and we had that space under
our counter. And I said, yank that stupid thing out.
I said, put a freaking ice miker in there. That
has changed my world.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
There really is dag God.
Speaker 1 (42:11):
That I've been trying to tell people for a month
now that it's life changing. No one wants to listen.
Hopefully you'll listen to the congressman. Thank you, sir. I
appreciate it. You heard it from the words's mouth. It's
life changing. He got a permanent one put in Gosh,
that actually made me feel terrible. Minus is this little
portable thing. It sits right on the counter. Well, I
don't I don't want to give too much away. We
(42:31):
may or may not have a big reveal coming soon.
When it comes to that. I wanted to ask the
tough questions. All right, all right, I used to have
light in the mood. Next, all right, it's time to
(42:52):
lighten the mood. Before we do that, I want I
want you to know something I realized Tomorrow night's debate
is going to be going on when our normal time
slot is here, and I know what you're gonna be
thinking watching this debate. You're gonna be thinking every single second,
I wonder what Jesse thinks. I wonder what Jesse thinks.
Of course that's what you're gonna be thinking. Well, in
all says this, I am going to do a mini
(43:16):
little debate thoughts thing on my YouTube channel after the debate.
You're going to have to be on the YouTube channel.
Go subscribe YouTube dot com slash Jesse Kelly DC. Go subscribe,
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All right, YouTube dot com slash Jesse Kelly DC. Now
(43:37):
for light in the mood. Apparently fishing can be a
contact sport. By the way, the kid was totally fine.
(44:09):
I don't know if he's ever gonna want to go
fishing again, but either way, I see them all
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Jesse Kelly
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