June 20, 2024 • 46 mins
Is America fighting a world war right now? You can debate that all you want, but we're certainly spending like we are. Jesse Kelly warns of the currency crisis plaguing this country and how it will impact you one way or another. Congresswoman Harriet Hageman is Jesse's guest to discuss the national debt as well as the House Judiciary agenda. Plus, appearances from whistleblower Dr. Eithan Haim as well as analysts Quisha King and Jim Pfaff.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
There's a very interesting story out of Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're going to talk about that tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We have a whistleblower on what's going on here in Texas,
and there are national should be national implications for all this, all.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That so much more coming up, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Right, okay, let's talk about the Supreme Court, because you've
been on the edge of your seat. I've been on
the edge of my seat waiting for these Supreme Court rulings.
We're waiting on the Supreme Court to rule on things
like Trump's immunity, how.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Immune is he? Is he all the way immune? Don't
expect that is he not immune at all?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Don't expect that They're probably going to split the baby someway.
We're waiting on all these things, and none of those
things came down today. We did have Supreme Court opinions
that came down today. If you want those broken down,
if you're really interested in all that stuff, America on
Trial with Josh Hammer always breaks all that stuff down
for you, and he will get down to the nitty
gritty of it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Now, let's dig.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Into the Supreme Court here, in fact, more than the
Supreme Court, let's dig into you and me and the
country we have. Now, I have said this before, I
say it as often as I can, and I understand
that it is hard to hear. It angers people, or
scares people or saddens people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But that's not the intention.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The intention is that me, you, all of us, that
we understand where we live, we understand how we should
act in these times. And we're never going to be
able to act appropriately if we don't understand what kind
of country we live in. So allow me to say
this again. The next ten twenty thirty forty years in
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the United States of America will look nothing like the
last ten twenty thirty forty years. No no matter your age.
Maybe you're forty two like me, maybe you're eighty two,
maybe you're two, No matter your age, the country we
are becoming, where we're going will not look like where
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we left. In a lot of ways, it's going to
be really bad, and in a lot of ways we'll figure
it out and we'll get through it. But there are
things that we must understand and accept, like, for the instance,
the Supreme Court, because that's really what we're talking about here,
the Supreme Law, the land, all these other things. The
Supreme Court says so, and that's the way it goes.
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That's how it used to be. Those days are gone now.
Those days are gone.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Remember when the Supreme Court overturned Roe versus weighed which
was the right decision? What was the response the federal government,
the Justice Department, immediately declared war on pro lifers across
the country in response to a Supreme Court decision. They
started arresting grandmas and throwing them in prison. We're in
a totally different ballgame now. The Supreme Court ruled on
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things like student debt relief. You know, the President of
the United States of America is not a king a dictator.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He doesn't just get.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
To say, hey, you taxpayer, give me your money. I'm
gonna take it and I'm gonna pay off this guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He can't do that. It's against the law.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The Supreme Court said, you can't do that. It's against
the law. The President said, watch me.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Tens of millions of people's debt was literally about to
get canceled. But then some of my Republican friends and
elected officials and special interest suitors and the Supreme Court
blocked us. But that, well, that didn't stop us. No,
I mean it necessarily we continue to find alternatives pass
to reduced student debt pinions.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They just brag about it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Now. One of Joe Biden's communications people, he got real
famous yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thanking Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Thanks Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Guy had eighty three hundred dollars in student loan debt.
He's had it since twenty ten. I need to point
out that's less than six hundred dollars a month. He
could have paid off the entire thing very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And because the moron put his address online, we now
know he lives in a half million dollar home in
You working man, working woman just paid off his student loans.
What's happening right now, in the speed with which it's
happening in the country, is changing everything. So this country
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is not going to look like the country you've known.
And here's what really sucks about this. And I say
this as someone who's forty two. This will be more
difficult for me than it will be for my sons.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My sons are thirteen and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It will be more difficult for my parents than it
will be for me. Age is a consideration here, because
how long have you lived in a normal country, You've
gotten used to living in a normal country. If you're
of a certain age, this new wild America it's going
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to be harder to accept for people who are older.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's just the older you are, the harder it will be.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But things are coming now, and they're bad, and we
have to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's talk about the budget deficit.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
We are running, according to the Congressional Budget Office now
a one point nine trillion dollar budget deficit for the
year of twenty twenty four. Now, I need you to
take those things. I'm not going to bore you with
a bunch of numbers and things like that, so let's
just set aside the details. I think that's two hundred
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dollars a month, and if you stack the dollar bills
that means nothing to people. Allow me to explain this.
That will end us quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No nation can do that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That kind of spending historically has only ever been in
response to not just any war, a huge war, World
War two.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's when you would spend.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's when a government would spend that much more than
they're taking in. We're in an emergency situation. Oh my gosh,
if there was an actual pandemic, a natural disaster, wiping
out things. It would take something ingredible to justify running
that kind of a budget deficit. There are no world wars,
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there's no pandemic, there's no nothing going on, and the
federal government is now spending one point nine trillion more
than we are taking in. We are spending as if
it's World War three, but it's not World War three.
We currently are in a currency crisis, so we should
be spending less than we have ever. That's why you
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can't afford eggs, rent, shoes, flights, gas. You can't afford
these things because of Washington spending so at a time
when they should be slashing and burning every single part
of the federal budget. They are spending more than they've
ever spent before.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Every horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right now is accelerating and it's going to create.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Some things.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And look, I want to talk really quickly about the
Supreme Court, about the courts, about the law, about the States,
because there's a great story out of Louisiana. Louisiana passed
the law and they said in the classroom, you will display.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
The Ten Commandments.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's now a requirement in Louisiana you will display the
Ten Commandments. And of course the ACL use about it.
All these people are mad about it. Everyone's trying to
use your values against you. Were now don't have a religion.
It should be tolerant of other religions. What about Islam
and the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I'm very opposed to it, and it's not anything to
do with disliking religion.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's just that there are different.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Religions that exist in our communities. I've taught Jehovah's Witnesses,
I've taught Muslim students. I have really great Muslim teacher
friends who are going to now have to display Christianity
as the accepted or promoted religion in our state.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, it should be the promoted religion in your state.
It's fine with the country having a religion. It's fine
with a state having a religion. Doesn't mean you want
to be intolerant of other religions, but nations have religions.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
The reason that Hag is upset about.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This ruling, the reason so many people are upset about
this ruling is they don't like the religion that was chosen.
You see, they want this to remain the us of
gay They want communism to remain the only religion in schools.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you think it's an accident?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The schools have gotten more and more putrid the further
away the Ten Commandments have gotten from them. Do you
want to live in a decent society, it will be
a society that has chosen a decent religion. You want
to live in a despicable, depraved society where we chop
penises off in hospitals, Well, then you can choose the
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religion of communism. And maybe this ruling, maybe it made
you uncomfortable. Maybe you don't like the Ten Commandments. Maybe
you are a Muslim or an atheist or something like that.
That's fine, that's fine, I get that, But understand something.
There will be a religion in this country. I don't
care what you say or what I say about it.
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That's not an opinion. Nations have religions. You gotta choose one,
and don't make the mistake of doing the nursery rhyme
conservatism thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I just want school to teach math.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Schools they're filled with teachers. Teachers teach students. Teachers are
not robots. They are human beings, flesh and blood, human
beings with religions. Your child will be taught religion in
school now, whether it's a public school or private one,
you better choose the right one. All that may have
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made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Let's talk about
the us of gay Let's talk about the kind of
country we live in. Do you understand that you live
in the country where a children's hospital is illegally chopping
penises off of young boys, and the whistleblower who came
forward about it, the federal government's trying to throw him
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in prison for coming forward. We're going to talk to
that whistleblower in a moment before we talk to him.
Speaking of sharing your values, we talk about blackout coffee.
We have to be purposeful now, right now in everything
that we do, where we shop, to the cup of
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coffee we drink. It matters where you spend and don't
spend your money matters. And I'll tell you something that's
inspiring me. You look at these Disney stock praises and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
The right is starting to get it.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
We are starting to get that we have to be
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's time to talk about our medical institutions and the
kind of country we live in. You see, Texas Children's
Hospital is an internationally revered children's hospital. People fly from
all over the world to have their children treated there,
and most people don't realize this children's hospital is still
performing child mutilation within its walls. And we have a
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very very brave man who has come forward works there
is now well. The federal government's trying to throw him
in a cage for what he's saying. But let's talk
to him about who he is, what he saw, and
what's going on now. Joining me now, doctor Ayton him.
He is a former Texas Children's Hospital surgeon, medical whistleblower
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doctor before we get into everything else that's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Who are you? What's your background?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, thank you for having me on. My name is Atonheim.
I grew up in Florida, got brother and a sister,
two parents, very close with all them. I mean, it's
the most average, typical upbringing you could ever imagine, you know,
I thought I was gonna just have a regular life,
go to medical school, you know, get a job, living
in a very small town. That's what we always dreamed of.
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But all that changed when I saw what was happening
that types children's and now they're trying to throw me
in a federal prison for up to ten years. And
if anyone wants to help with our legal fight, I
mean this is going to be upwards of possibly a
million dollars they can go to give. Sendgo dot com
for slash Texas underscore a whistleblower, walk us.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Through the timeline, what happened, what was going on? What'd
you get wind of? Why'd you come forward the floors?
Or is take your time?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What happened? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
So I was a surgical resident at Baylor College of Medicine,
And for people who aren't familiar with that, that's the
training you do after medical school. Can last anywhere from
three to five years, sometimes longer depending on the specialty.
For me, it was general surgery, which is five years.
So when you're at an academic institution like Baylor College Medicine,
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you're at a couple of hospitals, one of those is
Texas Children's, which is really an amazing hospital, and it's
unfortunate about the story because it's a shame on their prestige.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
But it was in March of twenty twenty two that the.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Hospital had released a public statement unequivocally saying that they
were going to shut down their transgender program. And they
said they were going to do so in order to
avoid potential criminal liability. And that's an important point I
want to highlight. They had acknowledged that there was potential
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criminal liability. The reason they said that was because a
few weeks before, two or three weeks the Attorney General
of Texas, Ken Paxson, had issued an opinion saying that
these intern mens could be investigated as child abuse, which
they are. So it makes sense as to why the
hospital would release that statement, right, they want to protect
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themselves from any legal liability. But it was in the
following few months that I realized this was completely untrue.
And I knew this because I was working there. I
was doing surgery there, and the people who are doing
these procedures had told me they were doing them, and
I didn't believe it, Like it just seemed so insane
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that and otherwise great hospital text children would actually lie
to the public about something like this and not only
continue the program, but expanded because in the next couple
of months, more and more people were telling me that
they were doing this right, and the stories got more
and more crazy, and the kids got younger and younger, eleven, twelve,
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thirteen year old kids, all these psychiatric issues which were
being ignored, who were saying that they were for sure
never going to have children, and they're eleven years old, right,
how can they ever.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Even conceive of that?
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But I, even with that, I didn't believe it. It
was only in January of twenty twenty three that all
the doubt exited in my mind because the directors of
the program that supposedly did not exist, the directors of
the transgender program, were given the opportunity to speak at
the hospital's most prestigious lecture series, which means that this
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was like an institutional priority.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Everyone knew about it.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
It wasn't just like a couple of rogue physicians, but
you know, it was everyone in the administration. And they
talked about their algorithm approach, right to blockers hormone surgery, right,
how general pediatricians should ask about gender identity behind the
backs of their parents. And you know this is a priority, right,
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they only do the lectures that they want to prioritize.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
But it was two weeks after that.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
That there was an open public zoom conference with multiple
members of the transgender program, right the one that supposedly
was shut down, and like one hundred and fifty medical
students and a social worker had specifically talked about how
they would conceal the program itself from governing medical bodies
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in Texas. She had said that instead of documenting consults
to the clinic right from hers, she would call them
and she wouldn't give any paper copies of anything to parents.
And you know a lot of people may not be
able to appreciate that, but in medicine you have to
document everything, like everything.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
That's like the absolute critical component of her job.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
And so I knew that at that point, right, you
have children who are imminent harm, imminent risk of harm,
and I'm not fulfilling my oath as a doctor if
i don't do something about it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
And you know, it's a very hard decision because you
know there's risk involved.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You know that this is a dominant political ideology and
these people are likely going to come after me. But
at some point, like, how can I really call myself
a doctorate live with myself if I didn't do something,
And especially seeing how these how children can suffer from
chronic medical conditions, and what they're doing is taking healthy patients,
healthy kids and turning them into that, Like we're there
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to heal kids, not create sick patients for life.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
So I started reaching out.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
To journalists in January of twenty twenty three, and it
took me five months to get hold of someone who
would report the story because people would would didn't even
believe me. And these were all the organizations you would
think would take a story like this, but and like,
you know, no hard feelings, like you know, if they
have other things going on or it's kind of a
crazy story. So if they don't believe me, that's fine.
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But I finally got a hold of Christopher Rufo in
mid May of twenty twenty three, And this was perfect
timing because about a week and a half after that,
the Texas Senate was voting on a bill called SB fourteen.
This was the law that was going to ban these
interventions for children who believe they were transgender, so he
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knew it was important. He knew this was something that
he needed to pursue. So, you know, we go through
the verification process, make sure I'm a real person, make
sure the story is real, and the story comes out
on May sixteenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I'm the anonymous whistleblower.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
The story explains how the hospital said one thing to
the public, did the exact opposite. Behind closed doors, they
said they were shutting it down, but they continued it
and expanded it, made it into an institutional wide priority. Right,
the story blows up and it does exactly what we
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hoped it would. Within twenty four hours of our story
coming out, the conduct we had exposed was voted to
become illegal in a bill that was passed with both
Republicans and Democrats. And it was because our story came
out that Democrats had go in favor of it, because
a lot of them didn't even know this was happening. Right, Like,
at that time, people think that, oh, this is something
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that happens to so a few people.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
It's not real, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But the story came out the day before, so the
bill got passed a few days later, another whistle blower
comes out to Rufo, someone who worked with these doctors
and was horrified by what she saw, and she recently
came out in a story with Chris Rufo two days ago,
and then even crazier story. I mean, that's a separate
thing we could talk about. But then the CEO about
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a week later says that he's going to shut down
the program in accordance with SB fourteen. I'm anonymous at
the time, and about four or five weeks later, I'm
graduating from my surgical trainings June twenty third, twenty twenty three.
Story came out May sixteenth, twenty twenty three. So it's
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a Friday, the day of my graduation from surgical training,
one of the most important.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Days of my life. And you know, I have my
family in town.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Like, you make all these sacrifices over the previous few years.
You give up so much, right, eighty ninety one hundred
hours a week, but now you have the privilege of
becoming a surgeon.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
So the day you graduates a big deal.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
And my wife and I were getting ready for the
ceremony and all of a sudden, like an aggressive knock
on the door, and I'm like, man, that's weird, you know,
it was odd. So I shuffle over and wearing like
some stupid T shirt, like some shorts for college, and
I open him. Standing outside are two armed federal agents
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of Health and Human Services. They showing their badges and
tell me that they're investigating a case regarding medical records.
And you know, of course, in that moment, you kind
of just freeze. But in the back of my mind,
I knew exactly why they were there, right They they
we had challenged the dominant political ideology. They needed to
make an example out of me because it's help people
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in healthcare, doctors and nurses. That is the last support
beam that's holding up this evil, twisted ideology.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Because once that falls, these people will have.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
To come to a full term you know, they'll they'll
have to face the true nature of what they've been doing.
Because once you have doctors and nurses start speaking out,
then everything comes crumbling down.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
So you know, kind of freak.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Out the moment I invite them in because I didn't
know what's do right, Like doorway is very awkward. It's
easy to say like, yeah, you wouldn't talk to them,
you know, but when you're in that moment, like you
understand why they do it that way, because it's terrifying,
absolutely terrifying my environment. We sit down and you know,
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they want to do an interview, so they set below
a tripod.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
But luckily my wife comes.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Out and she is a brilliant attorney and just as
a point and later in the story, she had been
hired just a little bit before that as a assistant
US attorney in the Department of Justice in the Northern
District of Texas and she was undergoing a background check
at the time.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
They didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
But so, you know, my wife is like my you know,
she was my sugar mom at the time, and also
my attorney, which was great, but a lover. You know,
she's the greatest person, I mean, the toughest person you
could ever imagine.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
So we both knew we needed to talk.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
So we go back to our bedroom and we say,
you know, not the best idea to speak with them
without an attorney present.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
So we go back out.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
We tell them that and they say, okay, they leave,
but before leaving, they hand me a target letter piece
of paper that informed me that I was a potential
target of a criminal investigation and it was signed by
an assistant US attorney, same position as my wife, the
one that you'd been hired, but it was a prosecutor
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in the Southern District of Texas, So we knew that.
A couple of minutes after that door opened, you know,
and it closed, like our lives be different forever, But
we had a decision to make right. It's like we
had I had enough information at that time that the
Department of Justice had been weaponized against innocent people, against
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people who believed in virtue, people who believed in an
object of truth and dignity and morality, and it was
they were being targeted because of their attributes, because of
the things that makes them good. And the only way
to fight back is to not give in, like to
fight back aggressively, because when you grant them the legitimacy,
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it's like we know that they're not pursuing justice and
not presume true.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
You know, if I believe it's turned.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Into a terrible situation in the country, it's it's what
they're doing is evil, and what they're doing to you
is wrong and freakin' death. It makes me sick what
has happened to this country? You keep fighting, We are
rooting for you. Doctor, please keep on keeping on. Ah, yeah,
that's a terrible story. All right, we have to talk
about our new national religion. Before we talk about that,
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all of them, but most of.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Them because they trap you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
They don't advertise that you're stuck in the timeshare. They
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Speaker 2 (26:16):
All right, we'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, in case you thought it couldn't get any weirder
or just kind of gross, that'sn't all this training stuff
just kind of gross. Daily Wires doing some reporting out there,
the intelligence community in the country, Well, they're really enjoying
pride month you can get free training manicures. I'm not
exactly sure what they're painting on your fingers, nor do
I want to know. The largest pilots union in the country,
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they don't want to call it a cockpit anymore. I
always thought just that was the bar these people went to.
But either way, that's where we are as a country.
Joining me now, two wonderful people to discuss this instead
at egm FAF, President of the Conservative Caucus, and of
course Keisha King, host of the Kisha King Show.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Jim, I don't know even know where to begin. What's
a training manic heure? Maybe I should have asked that
one a Kisha.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
I mean, I'm trying to figure out what the functionality
is except to try to abruptly change culture in any way.
And I cannot find one reason why we're going to
have a safer country through our intelligence operations by making
sure people get their fingernails colored a special rainbow color.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's amazing to me, Kisha.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It really grows me out how ingrained this stuff is
in society. Obviously, if San Francisco, if Berkeley's gonna have
trainy Day, no, you're not gonna be shocked I'm not
gonna be shocked. I'm never going to go to Berkeley,
nor could I ever get into Berkeley. But the problem
is our government, which is way too big. They're the
ones promoting this around the world, and we pay for it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It disgusts me.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
You're absolutely right. We don't, you know, we think that
this is isolated, We want it to be isolated, but
it's not. This is being ingrained in our culture so deeply.
I was on the train in New York City a
few weeks ago and I saw like the MTA, it's
got like the flag, the new trans flag, and it
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just got me to thinking about flags and what that means.
And when we take this on into our country. A
flag says when you were waving a flag and it
has been implanted down, it says I am taking over,
I am sticking my claim in this land. And that's
what these flags mean. They it's the BLM flag, it
is the transgender flag, it is the new you know,
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pro for the Free Pales nine like all of these flags,
and they are under the same banner communism, Like these
people are communists.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
They are not.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
They don't.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
It's really not about the transgenderism or the Black lives matter,
or you know, whomever.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
They will use whomever.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Whatever they want to accomplish their revolution, and they're doing
a good job.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You're right, different fingers of the same dirty communist fist, Jim.
How many Americans do you think are aware of what
Kisha just said? I feel like the branding for the
left has been very effective. If they look at a
feminist rally with all the subarus and everything, they would think, well,
at least they probably at least pretend to care about women,
that black lives matter, They care about black people, of course,
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you know, and all the gay crab with the pink
featherbow was, but it's.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Not about that at all.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
The question is how many Americans are picking up on that?
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Yeah, very few, frankly, in terms of getting a comprehensive
understanding of what these people are trying to do. This
goes back to the cultural Marxist philosophy of Antonio grahams Shey,
someone no one has heard about. His works were printed
up after his death, but you know that he really
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was pushing for a new Marxism once the fall of Russia,
once Russia was really losing its capability to win the
Cold War, he wanted and he knew it was going
to fall down. He wanted to go in and infiltrate
culture deeply to maintain a cultural Marxist ideology, So that
means infiltrating and controlling cultural institutions, creating a sense of
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crisis and instability. This is the game plan that these
people are undertaking. And do not be at all confused
by the fact or unaware of the fact that whether
it's Rashida Chalib and AOC and other elected members of
Congress and what's going on in your universities, that this
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is not part of a specific plan. In fact, it's
Barack Obama's community organizing as well. I mean, this is
what's happening in plain sight and as you say, not
always understood well by the public.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Kisha, Why are they better at organizing and activism than.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We are on the right?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Wherever people fallow on the right, I don't care how
you classify yourself, but they are really good at it.
It's what they do and we don't why.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
They practice a totalitarian, collectivist way of thinking. So their
worldview is when we approach you, we have a very
specific type that we want. You know, those are who
are angered, and those who are on the fringe and
you know, kind of like the misfits of society. They
agitate them and then they train them. This is where
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what we don't do on our side, they train them.
If you guys remember Patrice Colors from the BLM, She said,
we are trained Marxists, and that means knowing how to
poke the bear, you know, knowing how to cause a
civil unrest, knowing how to throw a brick and hide,
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knowing how to agitate communities. They literally and that what
the community organizing was training others in a particular community
to go in and be disruptive so you can divide
and then you can conquer. And we don't spend enough
time assimilating people to our way. I don't want us
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to be collectivist, but we should practice persuasion. We should
we should present our ideas and say, hey, here's what
they're presenting, here's the long term effects of that, here's
what we have over here. Here are the long term
effects of this. And we have proof of a westernized
similation that backs up.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Our way of life.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
And they have their evidence as well, and it has
all led to murder, chaos, and utter destruction of every
single nation, civilization community that they have ever put their
hands on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
It is true we are way too passive about freedom.
Freedom is not a passive thing. It's got to be
an active thing. Speaking of active things, Jim, I was
encourage yesterday to see the Ten Commandments as going back
in the school is schools in Louisiana anyway, And if
anyone has a problem with that, I don't give a crap.
That's exactly where the Ten Commandments should be, Jim. People
have a hard time understanding that nations have religions. There's
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no such thing as an atheist nation or a secular nation.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Your nation's gonna have one, you better pick one that's
absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
By the way, I'm really excited that we have maybe
one of the best governors in the nation, my friend
Jeff Landry. When I was working on Capitol Hills with him,
the guy is brilliant. He comes across like swamp people Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He's a fascinating mind. But he's also fearless.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
You know, what's interesting about the Ten Commandments debate that
has often been neglected is that there is hardly a
religion in the world that doesn't assert the Ten Commandments
in one form or another. C. S. Lewis wrote a
famous book back in the nineteen forties called The Abolition
of Man, and he was talking about this is where
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you get that men without chests quote. You know, we
take the organ out and demand the function. We take
the heart out and demand something to happen. And in
the back of that book he made a very comprehensive
review of various religions and their thoughts and teachings odd
issues related to what's in the Ten Commandments. And you
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find out it doesn't matter if it's Norse culture or
Hindu culture, various European cultures, and various ones from around
the world, even African cultures. They assert these principles. So
there's this is not a violation of church and state.
This is actually an affirmation of the principles that we
hold most deer. And in fact, in the house floor,
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on the house floor, if you look up at the
top of the house floor, you see all the various
lawmakers throughout history. Right in the very middle in front
of the speaker's chair is Moses, the law giver, and
Moses is the only face that is a frontal face
like this. The rest of them are facades on the side.
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There's a purpose and a reason for that that our
founding fathers and those early in this country understood that
Moses the law Gaver gave the foundation for all good
moral behavior and good moral government, in fact, reduced government.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Kasha final word is yours.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
I love to see it. I want the Bible to
be brought back to be presented to children as a
mom and as a fighter for education, proper education in America.
I would like the Bible to be presented as at least,
at the very least, a historical document. Let's give kids
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something to compare, another narrative to consider. We don't give
them anything else to consider. They get one sided, a
one side of view of everything, including theory. And so
there's never any other ideas that are presented to kids
that are long held and relevant and that could actually
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teach them how to be better people and that it
is not all about you, and that there is something
greater to press towards. And so I love this idea,
and I think we can see this across the nation.
I would love to and in a historical context that
I think people would be hopefully willing to accept.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No doubt, about it, Kisha, Jim, appreciate you both. All right,
Let's talk to one of the few good people in Congress.
There aren't that many. Harriet is one of them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Were to talk to her. Before we talk to Harriet.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Let's talk about you and that crappy sleep you've been getting.
Been tossing and turn it, wake it up, half dead. Miserable,
isn't it miserable? It's like your eyes. It's like someone's
rubbing them with sandpaper when you haven't slept. Oh, I've
been there, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I have dream powder. If I'm going into a night
where I've had too much caffeine or stressed about something.
If I'm worried about not sleeping, I have myself a
little cup of hot chocolate before bed. But it's dream powder,
hot chocolate, minds cinnamon, cinnamon chocolate. It's delicious, and because
it's all natural, I'll drift off to sleep and then
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I'll wake up and I'll feel.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Great, not groggy. Great. That's the problem. There's a many
things you can take to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You always want to die the next day if you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Haven't slept for eighteen hours.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Not with dream powder, go to sleep eight hours wake up,
you'll be ready. Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly gets
you forty percent off.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
President Biden. He campaigned on making a safe, orderly, and
humane immigration system. Do you believe that that has been accomplished?
Speaker 10 (38:01):
We work at that every single day across the Department
of Homeland Security, across our administration, with our partners to
the south and around the world. We have established more lawful, safe,
and orderly pathways than any other administration, and we are
working every day to strengthen the security of our border.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
His voice bothers me. There's something about his voice that
makes me just anyway. I wonder if it bothers the
congresswoman joining me. Now, there aren't very many congress people
I like. And she's awesome, the awesome congresswoman from Wyoming,
Harriet Hageman. She is on the House Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Congresswoman.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Before we get to what they're doing on the border,
doesn't his voice bother you?
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (38:48):
And I've had the opportunity to sit in a room
with him, and after sitting there for several hours, I
can tell you that it greats like fingernails on a chalkboard.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I'm beyond his hideous voice. They're so brazen and honestly,
that's one of the things that really takes me back
is how they just go on television and brag they're
picking people up down in South America and shipping.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Them all over the country. They brag about what they're doing.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
They lie about what they're doing. The fact is that
they are not finding additional legal pathways for immigrants to.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Come to this country. That's not their job.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
Their job is to enforce the immigration laws that are
on the books. It's not for them to find different
ways to make them legal. The fact is that they're
doing mass paroles into the country and violation of law.
They're doing catch and release and violation of the law.
Anyone who is seeking asylum is not allowed to come
into this country and just be released willy nilly the
way that they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
So what he's doing is, as you say, he's.
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Bragging about the fact that they're violating the law and
they're attempting to act as though they have the authority
to do that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Your colleagues, your Democrat colleagues and Congress, do they deny
that they're trying to burn this place down on purpose?
It's obvious to anyone paying attention, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
But what do they tell you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Privately that they surely don't believe the hype?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Right, Yes they do. That's what's so sad and disturbing.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
And what I'm seeing our photographs that you're playing right
now of the environmental devastation associated with this mass migration.
And yet when we try to raise those kinds of
things in the Natural Resource Committee, for example, they deny
that they're happening. We actually raise this issue with Deb Halen,
who is a former member of Congress and she's now
the head of the Department of Interior. On average, every
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single illegal who has crossed that border has brought in
over eight to ten pounds of garbage with them, which
means that we have as many as much as one
hundred million pounds of garbage that has been strewn across
the southern border. And so the great environmentalists and the
Democrat Party ignore all of that.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
This has had devastating consequences.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
For our environment, for our schools, for our hospitals, for
our communities, for our families. By every single metric, this
has been one of the worst disasters in the history
of the United States, and they won't even acknowledge that
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Speaking of garbage, let's talk about Merrit Garland. He was
held in contempt of Congress. He's of course announced that
he's not going to arrest himself.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
But what can we do to that human being? From here?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I know, Anna Paulina Luna was talking about the sergeant
at arms.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Where do we go from here?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You can't have an age do what he's doing with
that position, you can't.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 11 (41:31):
And what the issue is is that we are entitled
to receive the information the interview between Special Counsel Her
and Joe Biden, and they have already turned over the
transcript of that interview. Now they've admitted that that transcript
is not accurate as to what was actually said during
the interview.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
They claim that they are just minor changes, but their
changes were entitled to see.
Speaker 11 (41:55):
So the issue is they will not allow us to
have that audio tape. And I think with that audio
tape is that Joe Biden is suffering from severe dementia,
which we're seeing every day on TV. But I think
for the American people, they recognize that this would just
be the death knell in his campaign. So Mary Garland
is withholding that and I actually handled the debate in
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front of the Rules Committee last week in support of
the bill to hold him in contempt of Congress. And
the point that we have made is that number one,
they've already waived any claim of privilege by turning over
the transcript. Number two, in our oversight role, we're entitled
to have that transcript. Number three, we're entitled to know
why mister Hurr decided not to prosecute Joe Biden despite
finding that he had withheld classified documents to which he
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was not entitled, while at the same time they're persecuting
Donald Trump for that alleged crime. So there are all
kinds of reasons as to why he should be held
in contempt. But the fact is Mary Garland is a
political hack. He has been since the moment he took
that office, and I think that it is devastating to
our legal community and to the rule of law that
he has undertaken some of the accident.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Has How do we fix our red state delegations? And
I wanted to ask you this because you're a bright,
shining example of one state that's starting to get it right.
You bounced Liz Cheney in the primary, which is freaking wonderful.
But Wyoming is just like my state, Texas, with all
these red states.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
These red states.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Elect the biggest losers humanly possible in their state legislature.
The Senate seats in these states got John Cornyn from Texas.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Make me vomit.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Why are these red state gops so lame?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:34):
I think that that's a very good question that we
need to start delving into in a lot more detail.
But I think that we need to hold people accountable
when they run for office to actually vote the way
that they claim that they're going to. You and I
both know that when people run for the state legislature,
they often say, oh, I'm the most conservative person out there,
and I am always I'm going to fight Joe Biden,
and I'm going to fight back whether it's our governors
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or our legislators. Either won We're going to push back,
and you won't find anybody more conservative than me and boy,
I adhere to the platform. And then they get in
office and that's not the way that they vote. And
I think that Wyoming is a very good example of
a one party state where so many of the Democrats
now run as Republicans, and as a result, our legislature
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oftentimes votes on things that are quite stunning. In fact,
it took us a while to get Chloe's Law in place.
It took us two legislative sessions to be able to
keep boys from competing.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
In girls' sports.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
This last legislative session, our budget was over nine billion dollars.
There are five hundred and sixty thousand people in the
state of Wyoming. Our governor put forward a budget of
over nine billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And that doesn't count the federal funds that we get.
Speaker 11 (44:44):
So what does happen is it's incredibly important that people
look at the voting record. These races are decided in
the primaries. They're not decided in the general elections when
you're a one party state, and so they need to
look at those candidates who are running in the prime
They need to look at.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Those voting records.
Speaker 11 (45:02):
And if those people, no matter what they say on
the campaign trail, if they are not voting conservatively, they
should not be elected.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
No, that's a fact, Harriet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
You come back anytime, please keep going, or better yet,
probably just leave Congress and go be governor of Wyoming.
I'm probably moving there soon. I appreciate you very much.
All Right, I'm not done yet.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Hang on, all right, it's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
And this is a little different, but one of our
wonderful guests on yesterday's show, Christine Jurgen, she should get
credit for the composure she showed. You see during the interview.
I couldn't see it. My monitor was too small and
I was busy talking. During the interview, she kept getting attacked.
She kept getting attacked by a fly.
Speaker 12 (45:56):
And it takes a parent willingly trying to uh indoctrinate
their child. And it takes a parent willingly trying to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Uh ech poor lean. It sucks. He flies a suitable
There's a very interesting story out of Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
We're going to talk about that tonight.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
We have a whistleblower on what's going on here in Texas,
and there are national should be national implications for all this, all.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That so much more coming up, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Right, okay, let's talk about the Supreme Court, because you've
been on the edge of your seat. I've been on
the edge of my seat waiting for these Supreme Court rulings.
We're waiting on the Supreme Court to rule on things
like Trump's immunity, how.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Immune is he? Is he all the way immune? Don't
expect that is he not immune at all?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Don't expect that They're probably going to split the baby someway.
We're waiting on all these things, and none of those
things came down today. We did have Supreme Court opinions
that came down today. If you want those broken down,
if you're really interested in all that stuff, America on
Trial with Josh Hammer always breaks all that stuff down
for you, and he will get down to the nitty
gritty of it.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Now, let's dig.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Into the Supreme Court here, in fact, more than the
Supreme Court, let's dig into you and me and the
country we have. Now, I have said this before, I
say it as often as I can, and I understand
that it is hard to hear. It angers people, or
scares people or saddens people.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
But that's not the intention.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
The intention is that me, you, all of us, that
we understand where we live, we understand how we should
act in these times. And we're never going to be
able to act appropriately if we don't understand what kind
of country we live in. So allow me to say
this again. The next ten twenty thirty forty years in
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the United States of America will look nothing like the
last ten twenty thirty forty years. No no matter your age.
Maybe you're forty two like me, maybe you're eighty two,
maybe you're two, No matter your age, the country we
are becoming, where we're going will not look like where
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we left. In a lot of ways, it's going to
be really bad, and in a lot of ways we'll figure
it out and we'll get through it. But there are
things that we must understand and accept, like, for the instance,
the Supreme Court, because that's really what we're talking about here,
the Supreme Law, the land, all these other things. The
Supreme Court says so, and that's the way it goes.
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That's how it used to be. Those days are gone now.
Those days are gone.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Remember when the Supreme Court overturned Roe versus weighed which
was the right decision? What was the response the federal government,
the Justice Department, immediately declared war on pro lifers across
the country in response to a Supreme Court decision. They
started arresting grandmas and throwing them in prison. We're in
a totally different ballgame now. The Supreme Court ruled on
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things like student debt relief. You know, the President of
the United States of America is not a king a dictator.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
He doesn't just get.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
To say, hey, you taxpayer, give me your money. I'm
gonna take it and I'm gonna pay off this guy.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
He can't do that. It's against the law.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
The Supreme Court said, you can't do that. It's against
the law. The President said, watch me.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Tens of millions of people's debt was literally about to
get canceled. But then some of my Republican friends and
elected officials and special interest suitors and the Supreme Court
blocked us. But that, well, that didn't stop us. No,
I mean it necessarily we continue to find alternatives pass
to reduced student debt pinions.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
They just brag about it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Now. One of Joe Biden's communications people, he got real
famous yesterday.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thanking Joe Biden.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Thanks Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Guy had eighty three hundred dollars in student loan debt.
He's had it since twenty ten. I need to point
out that's less than six hundred dollars a month. He
could have paid off the entire thing very very quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
He didn't.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
And because the moron put his address online, we now
know he lives in a half million dollar home in
You working man, working woman just paid off his student loans.
What's happening right now, in the speed with which it's
happening in the country, is changing everything. So this country
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is not going to look like the country you've known.
And here's what really sucks about this. And I say
this as someone who's forty two. This will be more
difficult for me than it will be for my sons.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
My sons are thirteen and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
It will be more difficult for my parents than it
will be for me. Age is a consideration here, because
how long have you lived in a normal country, You've
gotten used to living in a normal country. If you're
of a certain age, this new wild America it's going
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to be harder to accept for people who are older.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
It's just the older you are, the harder it will be.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
But things are coming now, and they're bad, and we
have to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Let's talk about the budget deficit.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
We are running, according to the Congressional Budget Office now
a one point nine trillion dollar budget deficit for the
year of twenty twenty four. Now, I need you to
take those things. I'm not going to bore you with
a bunch of numbers and things like that, so let's
just set aside the details. I think that's two hundred
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dollars a month, and if you stack the dollar bills
that means nothing to people. Allow me to explain this.
That will end us quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No nation can do that.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
That kind of spending historically has only ever been in
response to not just any war, a huge war, World
War two.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
That's when you would spend.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
That's when a government would spend that much more than
they're taking in. We're in an emergency situation. Oh my gosh,
if there was an actual pandemic, a natural disaster, wiping
out things. It would take something ingredible to justify running
that kind of a budget deficit. There are no world wars,
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there's no pandemic, there's no nothing going on, and the
federal government is now spending one point nine trillion more
than we are taking in. We are spending as if
it's World War three, but it's not World War three.
We currently are in a currency crisis, so we should
be spending less than we have ever. That's why you
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can't afford eggs, rent, shoes, flights, gas. You can't afford
these things because of Washington spending so at a time
when they should be slashing and burning every single part
of the federal budget. They are spending more than they've
ever spent before.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Every horrible thing.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Right now is accelerating and it's going to create.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Some things.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
And look, I want to talk really quickly about the
Supreme Court, about the courts, about the law, about the States,
because there's a great story out of Louisiana. Louisiana passed
the law and they said in the classroom, you will display.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
The Ten Commandments.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's now a requirement in Louisiana you will display the
Ten Commandments. And of course the ACL use about it.
All these people are mad about it. Everyone's trying to
use your values against you. Were now don't have a religion.
It should be tolerant of other religions. What about Islam
and the Jehovah's Witnesses.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I'm very opposed to it, and it's not anything to
do with disliking religion.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
It's just that there are different.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Religions that exist in our communities. I've taught Jehovah's Witnesses,
I've taught Muslim students. I have really great Muslim teacher
friends who are going to now have to display Christianity
as the accepted or promoted religion in our state.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, it should be the promoted religion in your state.
It's fine with the country having a religion. It's fine
with a state having a religion. Doesn't mean you want
to be intolerant of other religions, but nations have religions.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
The reason that Hag is upset about.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
This ruling, the reason so many people are upset about
this ruling is they don't like the religion that was chosen.
You see, they want this to remain the us of
gay They want communism to remain the only religion in schools.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Do you think it's an accident?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
The schools have gotten more and more putrid the further
away the Ten Commandments have gotten from them. Do you
want to live in a decent society, it will be
a society that has chosen a decent religion. You want
to live in a despicable, depraved society where we chop
penises off in hospitals, Well, then you can choose the
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religion of communism. And maybe this ruling, maybe it made
you uncomfortable. Maybe you don't like the Ten Commandments. Maybe
you are a Muslim or an atheist or something like that.
That's fine, that's fine, I get that, But understand something.
There will be a religion in this country. I don't
care what you say or what I say about it.
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That's not an opinion. Nations have religions. You gotta choose one,
and don't make the mistake of doing the nursery rhyme
conservatism thing.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
I just want school to teach math.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Schools they're filled with teachers. Teachers teach students. Teachers are
not robots. They are human beings, flesh and blood, human
beings with religions. Your child will be taught religion in
school now, whether it's a public school or private one,
you better choose the right one. All that may have
(10:35):
made you uncomfortable, but I am right. Let's talk about
the us of gay Let's talk about the kind of
country we live in. Do you understand that you live
in the country where a children's hospital is illegally chopping
penises off of young boys, and the whistleblower who came
forward about it, the federal government's trying to throw him
(10:57):
in prison for coming forward. We're going to talk to
that whistleblower in a moment before we talk to him.
Speaking of sharing your values, we talk about blackout coffee.
We have to be purposeful now, right now in everything
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things like that.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
We'll be back.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
It's time to talk about our medical institutions and the
kind of country we live in. You see, Texas Children's
Hospital is an internationally revered children's hospital. People fly from
all over the world to have their children treated there,
and most people don't realize this children's hospital is still
performing child mutilation within its walls. And we have a
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very very brave man who has come forward works there
is now well. The federal government's trying to throw him
in a cage for what he's saying. But let's talk
to him about who he is, what he saw, and
what's going on now. Joining me now, doctor Ayton him.
He is a former Texas Children's Hospital surgeon, medical whistleblower
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doctor before we get into everything else that's going on.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Who are you? What's your background?
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Yeah, thank you for having me on. My name is Atonheim.
I grew up in Florida, got brother and a sister,
two parents, very close with all them. I mean, it's
the most average, typical upbringing you could ever imagine, you know,
I thought I was gonna just have a regular life,
go to medical school, you know, get a job, living
in a very small town. That's what we always dreamed of.
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But all that changed when I saw what was happening
that types children's and now they're trying to throw me
in a federal prison for up to ten years. And
if anyone wants to help with our legal fight, I
mean this is going to be upwards of possibly a
million dollars they can go to give. Sendgo dot com
for slash Texas underscore a whistleblower, walk us.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Through the timeline, what happened, what was going on? What'd
you get wind of? Why'd you come forward the floors?
Or is take your time?
Speaker 2 (13:47):
What happened? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:49):
So I was a surgical resident at Baylor College of Medicine,
And for people who aren't familiar with that, that's the
training you do after medical school. Can last anywhere from
three to five years, sometimes longer depending on the specialty.
For me, it was general surgery, which is five years.
So when you're at an academic institution like Baylor College Medicine,
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you're at a couple of hospitals, one of those is
Texas Children's, which is really an amazing hospital, and it's
unfortunate about the story because it's a shame on their prestige.
Speaker 7 (14:22):
But it was in March of twenty twenty two that the.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Hospital had released a public statement unequivocally saying that they
were going to shut down their transgender program. And they
said they were going to do so in order to
avoid potential criminal liability. And that's an important point I
want to highlight. They had acknowledged that there was potential
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criminal liability. The reason they said that was because a
few weeks before, two or three weeks the Attorney General
of Texas, Ken Paxson, had issued an opinion saying that
these intern mens could be investigated as child abuse, which
they are. So it makes sense as to why the
hospital would release that statement, right, they want to protect
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themselves from any legal liability. But it was in the
following few months that I realized this was completely untrue.
And I knew this because I was working there. I
was doing surgery there, and the people who are doing
these procedures had told me they were doing them, and
I didn't believe it, Like it just seemed so insane
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that and otherwise great hospital text children would actually lie
to the public about something like this and not only
continue the program, but expanded because in the next couple
of months, more and more people were telling me that
they were doing this right, and the stories got more
and more crazy, and the kids got younger and younger, eleven, twelve,
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thirteen year old kids, all these psychiatric issues which were
being ignored, who were saying that they were for sure
never going to have children, and they're eleven years old, right,
how can they ever.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Even conceive of that?
Speaker 6 (16:10):
But I, even with that, I didn't believe it. It
was only in January of twenty twenty three that all
the doubt exited in my mind because the directors of
the program that supposedly did not exist, the directors of
the transgender program, were given the opportunity to speak at
the hospital's most prestigious lecture series, which means that this
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was like an institutional priority.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Everyone knew about it.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
It wasn't just like a couple of rogue physicians, but
you know, it was everyone in the administration. And they
talked about their algorithm approach, right to blockers hormone surgery, right,
how general pediatricians should ask about gender identity behind the
backs of their parents. And you know this is a priority, right,
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they only do the lectures that they want to prioritize.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
But it was two weeks after that.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
That there was an open public zoom conference with multiple
members of the transgender program, right the one that supposedly
was shut down, and like one hundred and fifty medical
students and a social worker had specifically talked about how
they would conceal the program itself from governing medical bodies
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in Texas. She had said that instead of documenting consults
to the clinic right from hers, she would call them
and she wouldn't give any paper copies of anything to parents.
And you know a lot of people may not be
able to appreciate that, but in medicine you have to
document everything, like everything.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
That's like the absolute critical component of her job.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
And so I knew that at that point, right, you
have children who are imminent harm, imminent risk of harm,
and I'm not fulfilling my oath as a doctor if
i don't do something about it.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
And you know, it's a very hard decision because you
know there's risk involved.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
You know that this is a dominant political ideology and
these people are likely going to come after me. But
at some point, like, how can I really call myself
a doctorate live with myself if I didn't do something,
And especially seeing how these how children can suffer from
chronic medical conditions, and what they're doing is taking healthy patients,
healthy kids and turning them into that, Like we're there
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to heal kids, not create sick patients for life.
Speaker 7 (18:36):
So I started reaching out.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
To journalists in January of twenty twenty three, and it
took me five months to get hold of someone who
would report the story because people would would didn't even
believe me. And these were all the organizations you would
think would take a story like this, but and like,
you know, no hard feelings, like you know, if they
have other things going on or it's kind of a
crazy story. So if they don't believe me, that's fine.
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But I finally got a hold of Christopher Rufo in
mid May of twenty twenty three, And this was perfect
timing because about a week and a half after that,
the Texas Senate was voting on a bill called SB fourteen.
This was the law that was going to ban these
interventions for children who believe they were transgender, so he
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knew it was important. He knew this was something that
he needed to pursue. So, you know, we go through
the verification process, make sure I'm a real person, make
sure the story is real, and the story comes out
on May sixteenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 7 (19:36):
I'm the anonymous whistleblower.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
The story explains how the hospital said one thing to
the public, did the exact opposite. Behind closed doors, they
said they were shutting it down, but they continued it
and expanded it, made it into an institutional wide priority. Right,
the story blows up and it does exactly what we
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hoped it would. Within twenty four hours of our story
coming out, the conduct we had exposed was voted to
become illegal in a bill that was passed with both
Republicans and Democrats. And it was because our story came
out that Democrats had go in favor of it, because
a lot of them didn't even know this was happening. Right, Like,
at that time, people think that, oh, this is something
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that happens to so a few people.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
It's not real, you know.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
But the story came out the day before, so the
bill got passed a few days later, another whistle blower
comes out to Rufo, someone who worked with these doctors
and was horrified by what she saw, and she recently
came out in a story with Chris Rufo two days ago,
and then even crazier story. I mean, that's a separate
thing we could talk about. But then the CEO about
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a week later says that he's going to shut down
the program in accordance with SB fourteen. I'm anonymous at
the time, and about four or five weeks later, I'm
graduating from my surgical trainings June twenty third, twenty twenty three.
Story came out May sixteenth, twenty twenty three. So it's
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a Friday, the day of my graduation from surgical training,
one of the most important.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Days of my life. And you know, I have my
family in town.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Like, you make all these sacrifices over the previous few years.
You give up so much, right, eighty ninety one hundred
hours a week, but now you have the privilege of
becoming a surgeon.
Speaker 7 (21:28):
So the day you graduates a big deal.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
And my wife and I were getting ready for the
ceremony and all of a sudden, like an aggressive knock
on the door, and I'm like, man, that's weird, you know,
it was odd. So I shuffle over and wearing like
some stupid T shirt, like some shorts for college, and
I open him. Standing outside are two armed federal agents
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of Health and Human Services. They showing their badges and
tell me that they're investigating a case regarding medical records.
And you know, of course, in that moment, you kind
of just freeze. But in the back of my mind,
I knew exactly why they were there, right They they
we had challenged the dominant political ideology. They needed to
make an example out of me because it's help people
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in healthcare, doctors and nurses. That is the last support
beam that's holding up this evil, twisted ideology.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Because once that falls, these people will have.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
To come to a full term you know, they'll they'll
have to face the true nature of what they've been doing.
Because once you have doctors and nurses start speaking out,
then everything comes crumbling down.
Speaker 7 (22:40):
So you know, kind of freak.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Out the moment I invite them in because I didn't
know what's do right, Like doorway is very awkward. It's
easy to say like, yeah, you wouldn't talk to them,
you know, but when you're in that moment, like you
understand why they do it that way, because it's terrifying,
absolutely terrifying my environment. We sit down and you know,
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they want to do an interview, so they set below
a tripod.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
But luckily my wife comes.
Speaker 6 (23:08):
Out and she is a brilliant attorney and just as
a point and later in the story, she had been
hired just a little bit before that as a assistant
US attorney in the Department of Justice in the Northern
District of Texas and she was undergoing a background check
at the time.
Speaker 7 (23:27):
They didn't know that.
Speaker 6 (23:28):
But so, you know, my wife is like my you know,
she was my sugar mom at the time, and also
my attorney, which was great, but a lover. You know,
she's the greatest person, I mean, the toughest person you
could ever imagine.
Speaker 7 (23:42):
So we both knew we needed to talk.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
So we go back to our bedroom and we say,
you know, not the best idea to speak with them
without an attorney present.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
So we go back out.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
We tell them that and they say, okay, they leave,
but before leaving, they hand me a target letter piece
of paper that informed me that I was a potential
target of a criminal investigation and it was signed by
an assistant US attorney, same position as my wife, the
one that you'd been hired, but it was a prosecutor
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in the Southern District of Texas, So we knew that.
A couple of minutes after that door opened, you know,
and it closed, like our lives be different forever, But
we had a decision to make right. It's like we
had I had enough information at that time that the
Department of Justice had been weaponized against innocent people, against
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people who believed in virtue, people who believed in an
object of truth and dignity and morality, and it was
they were being targeted because of their attributes, because of
the things that makes them good. And the only way
to fight back is to not give in, like to
fight back aggressively, because when you grant them the legitimacy,
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it's like we know that they're not pursuing justice and
not presume true.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
You know, if I believe it's turned.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Into a terrible situation in the country, it's it's what
they're doing is evil, and what they're doing to you
is wrong and freakin' death. It makes me sick what
has happened to this country? You keep fighting, We are
rooting for you. Doctor, please keep on keeping on. Ah, yeah,
that's a terrible story. All right, we have to talk
about our new national religion. Before we talk about that,
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let's talk about something that's awesome, Lone Star Transfer. Don't
you love the good guy when he comes and saves
you from the bad guy? At least we like watching
movies about it. Well, these timeshare companies are bad, not
all of them, but most of.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Them because they trap you.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
They don't advertise that you're stuck in the timeshare. They
try to say, hey, come get a place on the beach,
and then when you're done with it, they say, ooh, sorry,
you're stuck for life. That's when Lone Star Transfer comes
in and saves the day. This family business. We'll get
you out of your time share legally and permanently. They
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put it in writing. Call them eight four four three
one zero two six four six your one phone call
from being free.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
All right, we'll be back.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Well, in case you thought it couldn't get any weirder
or just kind of gross, that'sn't all this training stuff
just kind of gross. Daily Wires doing some reporting out there,
the intelligence community in the country, Well, they're really enjoying
pride month you can get free training manicures. I'm not
exactly sure what they're painting on your fingers, nor do
I want to know. The largest pilots union in the country,
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they don't want to call it a cockpit anymore. I
always thought just that was the bar these people went to.
But either way, that's where we are as a country.
Joining me now, two wonderful people to discuss this instead
at egm FAF, President of the Conservative Caucus, and of
course Keisha King, host of the Kisha King Show.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
Jim, I don't know even know where to begin. What's
a training manic heure? Maybe I should have asked that
one a Kisha.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
I mean, I'm trying to figure out what the functionality
is except to try to abruptly change culture in any way.
And I cannot find one reason why we're going to
have a safer country through our intelligence operations by making
sure people get their fingernails colored a special rainbow color.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's amazing to me, Kisha.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
It really grows me out how ingrained this stuff is
in society. Obviously, if San Francisco, if Berkeley's gonna have
trainy Day, no, you're not gonna be shocked I'm not
gonna be shocked. I'm never going to go to Berkeley,
nor could I ever get into Berkeley. But the problem
is our government, which is way too big. They're the
ones promoting this around the world, and we pay for it.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
It disgusts me.
Speaker 9 (27:58):
You're absolutely right. We don't, you know, we think that
this is isolated, We want it to be isolated, but
it's not. This is being ingrained in our culture so deeply.
I was on the train in New York City a
few weeks ago and I saw like the MTA, it's
got like the flag, the new trans flag, and it
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just got me to thinking about flags and what that means.
And when we take this on into our country. A
flag says when you were waving a flag and it
has been implanted down, it says I am taking over,
I am sticking my claim in this land. And that's
what these flags mean. They it's the BLM flag, it
is the transgender flag, it is the new you know,
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pro for the Free Pales nine like all of these flags,
and they are under the same banner communism, Like these
people are communists.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
They are not.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
They don't.
Speaker 9 (28:54):
It's really not about the transgenderism or the Black lives matter,
or you know, whomever.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
They will use whomever.
Speaker 9 (29:01):
Whatever they want to accomplish their revolution, and they're doing
a good job.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You're right, different fingers of the same dirty communist fist, Jim.
How many Americans do you think are aware of what
Kisha just said? I feel like the branding for the
left has been very effective. If they look at a
feminist rally with all the subarus and everything, they would think, well,
at least they probably at least pretend to care about women,
that black lives matter, They care about black people, of course,
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you know, and all the gay crab with the pink
featherbow was, but it's.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Not about that at all.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
The question is how many Americans are picking up on that?
Speaker 8 (29:40):
Yeah, very few, frankly, in terms of getting a comprehensive
understanding of what these people are trying to do. This
goes back to the cultural Marxist philosophy of Antonio grahams Shey,
someone no one has heard about. His works were printed
up after his death, but you know that he really
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was pushing for a new Marxism once the fall of Russia,
once Russia was really losing its capability to win the
Cold War, he wanted and he knew it was going
to fall down. He wanted to go in and infiltrate
culture deeply to maintain a cultural Marxist ideology, So that
means infiltrating and controlling cultural institutions, creating a sense of
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crisis and instability. This is the game plan that these
people are undertaking. And do not be at all confused
by the fact or unaware of the fact that whether
it's Rashida Chalib and AOC and other elected members of
Congress and what's going on in your universities, that this
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is not part of a specific plan. In fact, it's
Barack Obama's community organizing as well. I mean, this is
what's happening in plain sight and as you say, not
always understood well by the public.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Kisha, Why are they better at organizing and activism than.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
We are on the right?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
Wherever people fallow on the right, I don't care how
you classify yourself, but they are really good at it.
It's what they do and we don't why.
Speaker 9 (31:13):
They practice a totalitarian, collectivist way of thinking. So their
worldview is when we approach you, we have a very
specific type that we want. You know, those are who
are angered, and those who are on the fringe and
you know, kind of like the misfits of society. They
agitate them and then they train them. This is where
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what we don't do on our side, they train them.
If you guys remember Patrice Colors from the BLM, She said,
we are trained Marxists, and that means knowing how to
poke the bear, you know, knowing how to cause a
civil unrest, knowing how to throw a brick and hide,
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knowing how to agitate communities. They literally and that what
the community organizing was training others in a particular community
to go in and be disruptive so you can divide
and then you can conquer. And we don't spend enough
time assimilating people to our way. I don't want us
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to be collectivist, but we should practice persuasion. We should
we should present our ideas and say, hey, here's what
they're presenting, here's the long term effects of that, here's
what we have over here. Here are the long term
effects of this. And we have proof of a westernized
similation that backs up.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Our way of life.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
And they have their evidence as well, and it has
all led to murder, chaos, and utter destruction of every
single nation, civilization community that they have ever put their
hands on.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
It is true we are way too passive about freedom.
Freedom is not a passive thing. It's got to be
an active thing. Speaking of active things, Jim, I was
encourage yesterday to see the Ten Commandments as going back
in the school is schools in Louisiana anyway, And if
anyone has a problem with that, I don't give a crap.
That's exactly where the Ten Commandments should be, Jim. People
have a hard time understanding that nations have religions. There's
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no such thing as an atheist nation or a secular nation.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Your nation's gonna have one, you better pick one that's
absolutely right.
Speaker 8 (33:22):
By the way, I'm really excited that we have maybe
one of the best governors in the nation, my friend
Jeff Landry. When I was working on Capitol Hills with him,
the guy is brilliant. He comes across like swamp people Louisiana.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
He's a fascinating mind. But he's also fearless.
Speaker 8 (33:39):
You know, what's interesting about the Ten Commandments debate that
has often been neglected is that there is hardly a
religion in the world that doesn't assert the Ten Commandments
in one form or another. C. S. Lewis wrote a
famous book back in the nineteen forties called The Abolition
of Man, and he was talking about this is where
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you get that men without chests quote. You know, we
take the organ out and demand the function. We take
the heart out and demand something to happen. And in
the back of that book he made a very comprehensive
review of various religions and their thoughts and teachings odd
issues related to what's in the Ten Commandments. And you
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find out it doesn't matter if it's Norse culture or
Hindu culture, various European cultures, and various ones from around
the world, even African cultures. They assert these principles. So
there's this is not a violation of church and state.
This is actually an affirmation of the principles that we
hold most deer. And in fact, in the house floor,
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on the house floor, if you look up at the
top of the house floor, you see all the various
lawmakers throughout history. Right in the very middle in front
of the speaker's chair is Moses, the law giver, and
Moses is the only face that is a frontal face
like this. The rest of them are facades on the side.
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There's a purpose and a reason for that that our
founding fathers and those early in this country understood that
Moses the law Gaver gave the foundation for all good
moral behavior and good moral government, in fact, reduced government.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Kasha final word is yours.
Speaker 9 (35:26):
I love to see it. I want the Bible to
be brought back to be presented to children as a
mom and as a fighter for education, proper education in America.
I would like the Bible to be presented as at least,
at the very least, a historical document. Let's give kids
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something to compare, another narrative to consider. We don't give
them anything else to consider. They get one sided, a
one side of view of everything, including theory. And so
there's never any other ideas that are presented to kids
that are long held and relevant and that could actually
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teach them how to be better people and that it
is not all about you, and that there is something
greater to press towards. And so I love this idea,
and I think we can see this across the nation.
I would love to and in a historical context that
I think people would be hopefully willing to accept.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
No doubt, about it, Kisha, Jim, appreciate you both. All right,
Let's talk to one of the few good people in Congress.
There aren't that many. Harriet is one of them.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Were to talk to her. Before we talk to Harriet.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Let's talk about you and that crappy sleep you've been getting.
Been tossing and turn it, wake it up, half dead. Miserable,
isn't it miserable? It's like your eyes. It's like someone's
rubbing them with sandpaper when you haven't slept. Oh, I've
been there, not anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Of course.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
I have dream powder. If I'm going into a night
where I've had too much caffeine or stressed about something.
If I'm worried about not sleeping, I have myself a
little cup of hot chocolate before bed. But it's dream powder,
hot chocolate, minds cinnamon, cinnamon chocolate. It's delicious, and because
it's all natural, I'll drift off to sleep and then
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I'll wake up and I'll feel.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Great, not groggy. Great. That's the problem. There's a many
things you can take to sleep.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
You always want to die the next day if you.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Haven't slept for eighteen hours.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Not with dream powder, go to sleep eight hours wake up,
you'll be ready. Shopbeam dot com slash Jesse Kelly gets
you forty percent off.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
We'll be back.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
President Biden. He campaigned on making a safe, orderly, and
humane immigration system. Do you believe that that has been accomplished?
Speaker 10 (38:01):
We work at that every single day across the Department
of Homeland Security, across our administration, with our partners to
the south and around the world. We have established more lawful, safe,
and orderly pathways than any other administration, and we are
working every day to strengthen the security of our border.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
His voice bothers me. There's something about his voice that
makes me just anyway. I wonder if it bothers the
congresswoman joining me. Now, there aren't very many congress people
I like. And she's awesome, the awesome congresswoman from Wyoming,
Harriet Hageman. She is on the House Judiciary Committee.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Congresswoman.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Before we get to what they're doing on the border,
doesn't his voice bother you?
Speaker 7 (38:48):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (38:48):
And I've had the opportunity to sit in a room
with him, and after sitting there for several hours, I
can tell you that it greats like fingernails on a chalkboard.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
I'm beyond his hideous voice. They're so brazen and honestly,
that's one of the things that really takes me back
is how they just go on television and brag they're
picking people up down in South America and shipping.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Them all over the country. They brag about what they're doing.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
They lie about what they're doing. The fact is that
they are not finding additional legal pathways for immigrants to.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Come to this country. That's not their job.
Speaker 11 (39:25):
Their job is to enforce the immigration laws that are
on the books. It's not for them to find different
ways to make them legal. The fact is that they're
doing mass paroles into the country and violation of law.
They're doing catch and release and violation of the law.
Anyone who is seeking asylum is not allowed to come
into this country and just be released willy nilly the
way that they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
So what he's doing is, as you say, he's.
Speaker 11 (39:49):
Bragging about the fact that they're violating the law and
they're attempting to act as though they have the authority
to do that.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Your colleagues, your Democrat colleagues and Congress, do they deny
that they're trying to burn this place down on purpose?
It's obvious to anyone paying attention, that's what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
But what do they tell you.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Privately that they surely don't believe the hype?
Speaker 4 (40:12):
Right, Yes they do. That's what's so sad and disturbing.
Speaker 11 (40:16):
And what I'm seeing our photographs that you're playing right
now of the environmental devastation associated with this mass migration.
And yet when we try to raise those kinds of
things in the Natural Resource Committee, for example, they deny
that they're happening. We actually raise this issue with Deb Halen,
who is a former member of Congress and she's now
the head of the Department of Interior. On average, every
(40:38):
single illegal who has crossed that border has brought in
over eight to ten pounds of garbage with them, which
means that we have as many as much as one
hundred million pounds of garbage that has been strewn across
the southern border. And so the great environmentalists and the
Democrat Party ignore all of that.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
This has had devastating consequences.
Speaker 11 (40:57):
For our environment, for our schools, for our hospitals, for
our communities, for our families. By every single metric, this
has been one of the worst disasters in the history
of the United States, and they won't even acknowledge that
it's happening.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Speaking of garbage, let's talk about Merrit Garland. He was
held in contempt of Congress. He's of course announced that
he's not going to arrest himself.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
But what can we do to that human being? From here?
Speaker 1 (41:21):
I know, Anna Paulina Luna was talking about the sergeant
at arms.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Where do we go from here?
Speaker 1 (41:26):
You can't have an age do what he's doing with
that position, you can't.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Well, that's exactly right.
Speaker 11 (41:31):
And what the issue is is that we are entitled
to receive the information the interview between Special Counsel Her
and Joe Biden, and they have already turned over the
transcript of that interview. Now they've admitted that that transcript
is not accurate as to what was actually said during
the interview.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
They claim that they are just minor changes, but their
changes were entitled to see.
Speaker 11 (41:55):
So the issue is they will not allow us to
have that audio tape. And I think with that audio
tape is that Joe Biden is suffering from severe dementia,
which we're seeing every day on TV. But I think
for the American people, they recognize that this would just
be the death knell in his campaign. So Mary Garland
is withholding that and I actually handled the debate in
(42:16):
front of the Rules Committee last week in support of
the bill to hold him in contempt of Congress. And
the point that we have made is that number one,
they've already waived any claim of privilege by turning over
the transcript. Number two, in our oversight role, we're entitled
to have that transcript. Number three, we're entitled to know
why mister Hurr decided not to prosecute Joe Biden despite
finding that he had withheld classified documents to which he
(42:39):
was not entitled, while at the same time they're persecuting
Donald Trump for that alleged crime. So there are all
kinds of reasons as to why he should be held
in contempt. But the fact is Mary Garland is a
political hack. He has been since the moment he took
that office, and I think that it is devastating to
our legal community and to the rule of law that
he has undertaken some of the accident.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Has How do we fix our red state delegations? And
I wanted to ask you this because you're a bright,
shining example of one state that's starting to get it right.
You bounced Liz Cheney in the primary, which is freaking wonderful.
But Wyoming is just like my state, Texas, with all
these red states.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
These red states.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Elect the biggest losers humanly possible in their state legislature.
The Senate seats in these states got John Cornyn from Texas.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
Make me vomit.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
Why are these red state gops so lame?
Speaker 4 (43:33):
You know?
Speaker 11 (43:34):
I think that that's a very good question that we
need to start delving into in a lot more detail.
But I think that we need to hold people accountable
when they run for office to actually vote the way
that they claim that they're going to. You and I
both know that when people run for the state legislature,
they often say, oh, I'm the most conservative person out there,
and I am always I'm going to fight Joe Biden,
and I'm going to fight back whether it's our governors
(43:56):
or our legislators. Either won We're going to push back,
and you won't find anybody more conservative than me and boy,
I adhere to the platform. And then they get in
office and that's not the way that they vote. And
I think that Wyoming is a very good example of
a one party state where so many of the Democrats
now run as Republicans, and as a result, our legislature
(44:17):
oftentimes votes on things that are quite stunning. In fact,
it took us a while to get Chloe's Law in place.
It took us two legislative sessions to be able to
keep boys from competing.
Speaker 4 (44:28):
In girls' sports.
Speaker 11 (44:30):
This last legislative session, our budget was over nine billion dollars.
There are five hundred and sixty thousand people in the
state of Wyoming. Our governor put forward a budget of
over nine billion dollars.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
And that doesn't count the federal funds that we get.
Speaker 11 (44:44):
So what does happen is it's incredibly important that people
look at the voting record. These races are decided in
the primaries. They're not decided in the general elections when
you're a one party state, and so they need to
look at those candidates who are running in the prime
They need to look at.
Speaker 4 (45:01):
Those voting records.
Speaker 11 (45:02):
And if those people, no matter what they say on
the campaign trail, if they are not voting conservatively, they
should not be elected.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
No, that's a fact, Harriet.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
You come back anytime, please keep going, or better yet,
probably just leave Congress and go be governor of Wyoming.
I'm probably moving there soon. I appreciate you very much.
All Right, I'm not done yet.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Hang on, all right, it's time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
And this is a little different, but one of our
wonderful guests on yesterday's show, Christine Jurgen, she should get
credit for the composure she showed. You see during the interview.
I couldn't see it. My monitor was too small and
I was busy talking. During the interview, she kept getting attacked.
She kept getting attacked by a fly.
Speaker 12 (45:56):
And it takes a parent willingly trying to uh indoctrinate
their child. And it takes a parent willingly trying to.
Speaker 2 (46:07):
Uh ech poor lean. It sucks. He flies a suitable
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