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Sonic Cast time. Y'all, it'stime of the podcast. You know,
we got to talk about the juice. It's your girl sign of what's up?
Sad day here in the Bay Area, gebiz here, Hello, Yes,
rip to the Patreal Hill legend.The juice is loose? OJ.
Look, you know Orenthal James Simpson, what can you say? Very divisive
figure in American history, crazy fallfrom grace. I mean, hey,
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the city least rest in peace toOJ Man. I mean you a San
Francisco you know, afficionado native here, Mike, Yes. Do you feel
like people out here in San Franciscoare praising OJ's passing because we know the
history, or are they sad tosee the man go? I mean it's
going to be a mixed bag becauseyou have those that knew OJ from the
hood and they also felt like somepeople feel like he turned they back on
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the city. He wasn't a proudSan Francisco or a proud you know,
a patrel hellion, you know whatI'm saying, until it was convenient.
So it's a lot of ways tolook at OJ. A lot of people
loved them, A lot of peoplesay he's one of the greatest athletes they've
ever seen. So it's a lotof compartments to him. Man. So
it's so deep, bro. Sothat's why like me being a San Francisco,
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like you said, a black man, it's very like jaded and it's
very like you know, it's alot of pieces to that puzzle, bro,
real talk, Do you really thinkthat OJ's innocent of what they accused
him of with Nicole Mike? Hewas proving innocent. I know what they
ruled. I'm asking you, howdo you feel? Because I just watched
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the special again with the Kooba GoodenJunior playing a really tiny O. J.
Simpson and just the different things thatJohnny Cochrane did to like sway the
jurors, which you had pointed outbiz primarily black folks on that jury.
Oh yeah. So I don't know, like if it really accounted the way
that the documentary laid it out,because really I don't remember where I was
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or what I was doing when thatbronco was sliding down the front and he
was on the phone with his mamatalking about you know, he's ready to
he's ready to leave, he can'tblah blah blah, Like that sounded like
some guilty talk to me. Itfor sure did. And of course if
you were you know, blessed enoughto be here to watch the whole thing
opersonally, remember the chase going downto fresh out of school, I'm at
the abba Auntie House watching a littlebit of basketball because it was the NBA
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Playoffs. They they interrupted the gameto show the Bronco chase. And you
know, back in the day,we ain't we ain't talking about no dv
R. This is going on liveTV. You every channel for a long
ass time. Just watch like ishe gonna stop? People were you know,
hanging on on on the edge ofthe chance to trying to see what
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was going on. And absolutely youhave to watch that. You would think
everybright did that? You feel me? I mean, where are you going,
juice? You know, where areyou going? Like definitely had guilty
talk. I did. And butbut like you know, going back to
the point is you know Johnny Cochranabsolutely utilized the fact that the jury he
was primarily black. Because you know, Mike, you even mentioned it earlier.
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This is a time in LA rightafter the riots, right after Rodney
King. You know, the citywas already mad. It had literally been
on fire, and folks are like, man, black people can't catch a
break. And you got this extremelyextremely po popular, superpopular. People loved
OJ at this time. He hadtransit white people. I mean he for
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sure did literally girls, you knowwhat I'm saying, and they messed with
him because he was dope and he, you know whatever. He was the
ideal black man, I think forthem until they were like, did OJ
kill Nicole and her friend? Yeah? Now you know, the history between
the relationship was definitely why folks startedhappen. And Johnny was like, man,
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y'all not about to execute this man. Set up there and put pictures
of other black people from OJ's familyliterally took these photos to put them up
in his somebody else's kids, yeah, and age these, and then had
the jury walk through this man's home, make it it look all even got
a black Jesus photo. The you'venever heard of jurors touring home. And
of course they go to the Colespot, empty, white walls, white
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floors, white everything, not apicture in sight, not a cross.
They made her just seem like JaneDoe really is the way they set that
up. And Johnny was ready,boy, he was like, we're gonna
black and fy everything everything, thesegerms. That was a crazy moment in
time, Like watching that thing backagain, it's like, do you remember
DNA. I don't remember DNA beforethe before that was one of the main
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DNA like forensic files in DNA.That's one of the first times I really
heard about like DNA because they wereif his blood was at the scene,
they checked the blood out of thebronco. They were like, how did
this get here? If it wasn'tall that all that many factors, you
know what I mean? The mob. People think the mob has something to
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do with it. It was somany conspiracies. If it don't fit,
you must have quit. And thatwas the worst thing. I feel like
when I watched the special of thatattorney that was representing you know, Nicole's
family or whatever. He was adumb ass. He was trying to race
through that shit. Having him puton that blood dried, crusty glove.
It's like, and it almost lookedlike if you heated that thing up,
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maybe watched it all, if itwas gonna slide right on. But you
know, obviously OJ had huge hands. It didn't go all the way on.
And that's really what the jury waslike, Okay, well he must
be innocent, even though there wasblood all over his bronco that was parked
out side of the scene kind ofyou know what I'm saying, Like all
the things like a glove, theglove and whatever was right outside. People
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witnessed a man maybe two, Ithink they said, crawling through that window
of large size. So I don'tknow, man, but crazy. And
it is sad because you know,the beginning of his life, obviously,
as we know here in the BayArea, was just all of a superstar
athlete that every young man or whateverfootball fan wanted to be like. From
the hood. It came around TroyHill, Project Jackson, it rose to
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USC Rose the start. The simplefact OJ went from the hood to s
C was already a celebration when theheisman, if you know, you know
Booker T. Washington Community Center overhere in the city still has a whole
glass mural J on it right nowto this day, so you can't say
the juice but now here and he'swaters Man. His field that galilel used
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to be called, uh the fieldGaalle used to be called J. Simpson.
J Simpson Field. When he wentthrough when he when he went through
the thing in ninety five, ninetyfour, ninety six, they changed it
to I think mister white or Damnwhite Field. But okay, just goes
to show he was celebrated out herefor sure, you know what I'm saying.
And he was from from from takingit from the from the field to
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the to the reporter. He's probablyhe was one of the one of the
first pioneer I mean for real sportsfans, I mean, O J is
still one of the greatest running backsin NFL. His you know, over
the last few years. Of course, you know, he had it.
He had to stand in jail,you know, getting after them cast for
his own memorabilia, spend his time, and then came out and people still
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were on him, you feel me, and ended up blowing up on x
I remember, I remember he goton Twitter and then you know, and
most recently he's been on the showthat is what it is with Cam and
may say been having him on everyweek. So it was good to see
the Jews kind of getting back intoa little bit of the limelight. But
I didn't even know the man hadcancer. You didn't know, And it
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seems like it just went so quickyou know from when I guess it was
first announced to him passing away,So getting the boss check. Yes,
that sticular jawn, Yeah, youmight want to check it out. May
six years old. Say he didn'tlive you know, man, talk about
living man. Yeah, So Iguess the only question now is it's Chloe
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gonna come out and say that that'sreally her daddy or what I mean,
what we're going to do. Imean, brother to them girls is about
five four and some change, Chloeabout six three two and twenty two pounds,
all muscled. They allude to thatin the special too with Koba.
Oh they did, they did.I'm saying, yeah, I mean,
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we know the Kardashians were really closewith OJ and his family. Him and
Rob are great. Yes, isthere with him a lot? You know,
the father because he's an attorney.Yes. She. Let's let's be
honest. We know how Chris is. Now. You think Chris wasn't back
in ninety two, ninety three,man, you had cool, Chris was
out here acting up, bro,I'm telling you she would have been.
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She would have been Kim if theycould have dropped the photos and videos back
then. I'm just saying, youknow, so yeah, I just I'm
just waiting. I'm gonna wait onthe funeral and see if Chloe come up
and be like, I'm the lostSimpson. Damn. She does look completely
different than the other ones, butshe also doesn't look black, So there's
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that. But you know it couldbe hidden under the what are they Armenian?
Yeah? They you know, marketingsomething right, skinny, But I
know what you're talking about New YorkNicks. Yeah, yeah, his dad
likes getting well but a loss,you know, and obviously sad. You
know that Big Seas is a mofo. So I don't know, r I
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P r P. I won't sayhe's guilty, though, son, I
didn't expect you to, except doyou think he's innocent? You could have
simply said no, the guilty word. Corduroys shirt on your back black enough,
We know you can't see it.Mike Butler is everywhere. Bro,
you gots you you're in all blackright now? Bro, that's somebody?
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What does this say? Who didI build? Who's so dope? Bitch?
Shout out Hannibal Thompson, the goodbrother? No, what you look
like a bipper? Don't exactly?So where's the so where's the O J
parade gonna start? You're gonna startan army street today, Mike. And
when we go out, how farwe going for? Like O J died
Hannah and I was like, yeah, we saw. We already mentioned it
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like or twice. It's all good. I mean, you know, show
social media. And he was like, well, at least you mentioned it
because he's an s F legend,and that was like, at least let
me know when the parade is,Mike, you're gonna be in the front
of that thing. Oh j Djuice dud, that's a good spot.
Army street. I'm saying, takeit Jack, say yeah, bro,
take it all up, take itall the way up. You feel me?
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We still yeah, by Mike,thank you for not smelling like weed
today. Covered down to the shoesof Mike coordinating. He really had corduroy
yah, damn it and not onhis legs all right. Yeah, so
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dude, and then mister ceed tooDJ that they he said was gay.
I wonder if he had anything tosay about Diddy. You know, Misrs
C and Diddy were very very close, both Harlem residents. You feel me
cats that came up in the gameback in the day. It's a lot
of photos of him and Diddy,certainly a whole lot of parties. I'm
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sure he went through with Diddy.And yes, Misiss has been linked to
a whole lot of activity with transgenderwomen. They even said some men just
straight out And I remember back inthe day, you know, he kept
saying no, you know, hewas, you know, heterosexual, you
only liked women. But they keptfinding him with these people, and it
was like, bruh, just liveyour life. It's okay. Uh yeah.
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I mean, he had been inthe news a couple of times,
and we don't really know him thatwell out here on the West Coast because
he's the East Coast DJ like tiedto Hot ninety seven out there there,
major radio station, blah blah blah. But you know, it's just people.
I feel like people are just passinga lot earlier. And you know,
OJ, of course he was battlingcancer, so you can be a
young person and you know, losethat fight. But you know, the
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other people just you know, Idon't know, Like we always say,
get checked. It's absolutely imperative thatyou make sure you good man again,
like you said, mister c onlyfifty seven years crazy, and I feel
like a lot more. Maybe it'sjust social media or like the access that
we have now, the speed thereis to news, Like some of these
celebrities, actors, singers, whateverare just passing at early ages now.
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And I hear the conspiratcs in theback. It was the vaccine. Oh
god, you know, thinking thatthat's changed something about how your body fights
different stuff or whatever. I don'tknow, but it's kind of sad.
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