July 23, 2024 • 18 mins
We chat to Abbie Chatfield - about the infamous viral clip of Billie Eilish hitting on her (OMG) and what's it like hosting FBOY island. Season 2 out August 6th on Hayu!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The z M podcast network.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
After all, we now recording recorded, because the whole way
through that one before I said, this is not the intro,
This is not the did you This is the intro
to the after party, which today is a bit different.
We had a chat with Ozzy, reality TV star, social
media personality radio presenter Abbie Chatfield. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Abby Chatfield was in Auckland promoting.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The TV show that she hosts, f Boy Ireland Australia,
and we just thought let's get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Her on the podcast, so we had a longer chat
with her.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You'll get an edited version of this on tomorrow's radio show,
but here is the unedited warts and all chat with
the wonderful Abbie Chatfield. It's a brand new season of
if Boy Ireland hitting to Hey you here in New Zealand,
and we're very lucky to have the host of that
show in studio with us right now. Welcome to the show,
Abbie Chatfield.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Thanks Breing Clint. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's so exciting to have you here.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Oh my god, I think so excited this first.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Time in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
First time.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
You're kidding me, no, I know, well, I've been saying
to everyone. I couldn't afford to leave the country for
a little while, you know, before I got this career,
So I'm going let me have my time, Ortho.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I'm really sad. I'm only here for two days.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Free in total, but two shiit New Zealand with a days. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Well, I'm all here for the weather, you know what
I mean, coming from Bondai. I'm all here for the
vibes and the personalities, and I've had the best day ever.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Have you met good vibes and personalities?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Genuinely, every single person that I've been interviewed by has
been so funny, such good content.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Really gorgeously dressed. Everyone smells nice. I don't know what's
happening over here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's like a better version of Australia. And then you
come over here him funny bush pigs over here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, it was down, but I will persevere.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, what goes up must come down exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You are Loki or not? So low key obsisted with
crowded house of sess. Does anyone offered to like sit
you up with a meeting with Nil Finn while you're
here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
No, but I have been offered a few times in
the past to interview him, okay, to go backstage before
his show or something. But I just I just feel like,
what am I going to say to Neil Finn, you know?
Or I'm going to say something very embarrassing or I'll
cry or faint or something I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, don't because please welcome to the studio the Neil, the.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Honorable Finn Cousins hairdresser.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'd accept that I probably fainted that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Honestly, like, what's he lying?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
He does have great here. You're the host of If
Boy Isreland? How do you define IF Boy?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Okay, So, I think at their core, F boys are
insecure losers who manipulate women in order to feel better
about themselves and get a very very empty validation between
women's mind.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It sounds like you're speaking from experience.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Would you say you've accidentally dated an F boy ball, Yes,
every single person that I've ever dated I think is
an F boy in some way if we did it,
every single brother until.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Except for my beautiful boyfriend, who you think.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Would be an F boy being a DJ DJ and
you know I would call him a rockstar.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Guys, in my eyes, we.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Know, can we say.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
We've met him quite a few times, lovely, always been
an absolute delight.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
He didn't ask, but we approve.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Thank you so much, see a little problem from us.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We love him. He helped us to a prank one
time where there used to be a person who worked
in that coffee shop out there that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Looked exactly like him. He bought.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
We thought he bore a striking resemblance until we come
in here and put them side by side, and we
sent the coffee guy in here to do an interview
in and it didn't work at all, but he was
up for it, which is lovely.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Did Adam to the coffee because you know that Ruben
the other half of Peer Duck Ruben. Adam told me
literally last night that Ruben actually was the best barista
in Australia for a period of time.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Adam was like top three in Canberra.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm going to get so together.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
They are the coffee boys, the coffee boys who also
do music.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
They don't understand. It's very strange, but f boys.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I feel like they.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Just losers who don't know how to communicate and are
just desperate, little vulnerable freaks.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Is it their fault?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, tell us what you really think empathetic exactly exactly,
predicting their own insecurities in toxic ways.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Right, absolutely, like things like bread crumbing, love bombing what
bread crumbing is when I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Give a little bit, give a little bit, a little
bit and take a little bit of what a little
bit of at you know, some fable where like if
you're seeing someone and slowly they fade away, then they
come back with.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
A little bit, Yes, sow you a little bit, little
bit little.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Dream about you last night. That's such an if boy
had a dream about you, that's not having the dream storyline.
I don't want to know exactly story like exactly or
reply to a story with a fire emoji, which I
will say, Adam actually think to me for two years.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
So now I'm kind of going, what's happening there? Sorry,
I've just had a realization.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm going like hard, Yeah, do if girls exist?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They do?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Absolutely? Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean I've dated definitely girls that I would say
girls for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Does it look different do you think women?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I think so, but I think it's a different, I
mean different thing. But they definitely do exist.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
What sort of what's the difference?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I feel like it's hard to just let me think
back of in my past dating days. They'll just do
things that just a normal probably girl wouldn't do when
they're dating, like like date multiple people but not tell
you about it, like you know, play the field, but
(05:56):
not be honest about it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Oh you could host girl Island, Oh my god, you could.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
They did in America.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Well they called it Lovers and Liars because they wouldn't
call it F girl Island, which is a bit silly.
Equality yeah, equality vibe. So I think it wouldn't work
as well because they'd be harder to find. They are
harder to find, they are. But I think the thing
is like I think then the F girls have it's
more of an empowerment thing or like it's funny, but
(06:27):
I think, honestly, let's be real, there is a real
epidemic of f boys around and men just having because
of patriarchy, feminism.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Blah blah blah. It's more empowering when we're a bit
mean to me.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, sure, you definitely are. On the show I've seen
season one. I feel like you do it in a
real funny, charismatic way.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I really wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Know because on the show, you look after three girls
who are dating this group of boys, and in the
group of boys there's obviously f boys, but then there's
also nice boys.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Can you do you get to know or can you
tell like straight away? Which is which?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No, I'm so bad at it. I get tricked by
them as well. I don't really get to know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I know like boy radar is off.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It's so bad because the issue on the show is
because they're trying to win money, you lose all sense
of trust with them because if they're nice to me,
I go, are you trying to trick me because you
know they tell the girls things?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Or are you nice because you're being polite?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Because a lot of a lot of the times I
can tell a telltale way to tell an f boy
from a nice guy is if they're rude to me
when we aren't filming or ignore me when we aren't filming,
then it's like they have an issue with female authority,
and therefore.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
They are f boys And it's usual that's like genuinely education.
It actually is because they have it.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
They like don't think that I should be in charge
of them in a weird way because it comes down
to no, not to get too feminist guys, but it
doesn't sound to a bit of patriarchy.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And they really have an issue with it.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
So, like, you know, one of them, you know, they'll
ignore me if I say, guys, can you be getting
instructions with the producers? You know, like don't let the
move tell them to they can get water afterwards whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You're also the host.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You're the boss the host, and I'm the boss exactly.
And ones that ignore me are usually f boys, and
one gets into me because it's like they can't help
when they're off camera being polite to someone someone.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Pro tip to any future if boys, if you want
to maintain your cover, be kind off camera as well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I feel like that's also just great advice in life
in general. You can always tell what a person is
really like deep down by how they treat everyone, not
just the people who they need to be nice to
do or get stuff from, wait stuff, you know, just
everyone in general.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Like it's a good like rule to follow.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, it's also how they treat crews, like if I
see them be a producer European ship.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Like, do any of them slid into your dms after
filming or during filming?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Well, they don't have the phone.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But yeah, I have had a few slide in, but
not in like a sexual way, almost in a wanting
me to help them with their career way, which is
actually more offensive.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You know, at least come on to me.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I know.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
So I'm not your mentor for friends. Yeah, I'd rather
have a crack.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I was going to ask you because obviously you were
on the show The Bachelor. Yeah, you're iconic on that show,
so many amazing one liners. You're now I mean, hosting
radio shows, hosting podcasts, a huge social media following, hosting
TV shows.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this was this the dream? Is this where you
wanted to end up?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
No, babe, like every job that I could offer, Like like,
I have a degree in property economics, so I did
not know that you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Fun fact, I don't want to know.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
It's just like commercial real estate, and you can be
a valuer or a town.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Imagined in town planning, genuinely therapy.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now see it's like and wait look at us nowt
us now.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
In this beautiful corner office.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But yeah, it was ever the plan.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
And when I went off The Bachelor, I still worked
in real estate for six months and then I just
kind of kept getting opportunities and offered to me, like
my radio show. When I got offered it, I was
sitting in I pulled over for this meeting with like
the head of the station in Australia, who apparently I
didn't know it was a big deal at the time.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I was like, Oh, I got this meeting with this
guy whatever.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And I'm chowing down mac is my leg up in
active rate and generation?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
What time?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
And it's like, so it's.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Not been my honest like a wanker when I say that,
But it's like, I just don't. I guess because I
worked in corporate. I never thought that I could do
these things.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So what's the point in dreaming?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You know what I mean is it makes.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Sense like it does, but I could have a radio show,
So why would I dream of having a radio show?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But it was offered to me? And I go, yeah,
love that, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, because I think that's underselling yourself a bit. Are
you saying that the secret to one of the secrets
of your success is not trying?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Really, I feel like that under sells your ambition.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I agree with you, because then you're just one
hundred percent authentically yourself.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, I just don't feel like there's much to lose
because a huge pull for me isn't like fame. It
definitely is money though, because I have two mortgages, but
fame too. Now, Yeah, ohn't tell anyone gratulations. Yeah no,
But like I think that I haven't ever been.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh, I really want to be. Oh going to the
logis is.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
So exciting, or like, oh I want to meet this person,
and like I don't really care. I just want to
walk my dogs and yap on the internet about feminism
or things that I care about.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I think that's actually what it is that I don't
really care.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Okay, that's an interesting taking on because I looked at
you as a hugely ambitious person who's probably had got
a list of goals that you've gone tech tech tech
tech tech.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I adhd I kind of remember doing my keys here
right now? I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
And also I think because you guys would understand, in
this industry, things change so quickly, and what people like
what they don't like changes so quickly, Like tomorrow, I
could have no career. So if I'm putting my entire
sense of self onto my career, which I never really
wanted but I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Want it, but I was never desiring it. It was
nothing that even comprehended.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Then if it goes away, which very easily could, and
that would just ruin my whole sense of self.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
So I just kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's a great way to be.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, then you're you're not so worried about losing anything,
and so you don't change yourself and you're not just
panicking all the time, so you're able to just relax
and be you, yeah, and be authentic.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I feel like that comes through in your content.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Thanks God.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, it's kind of like I don't I don't seek
the approval of executives, do you know what I mean? Oh, like,
what do they want to see? I just go, well,
this is who I am and I can't really change it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'm mistake it or leave it. Yeah, and if you
want to leave it, I'll go do something else.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah, I got to real estate. I'll just plan a
little town or something.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
This question actually kind of directly relates to that. Then
what is it like being the boss of a butt
plug company?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, I'm actually not the boss. I'm merely you know, collab.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, it was yours.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Well, it's mine in that I thought of the idea,
and then normal the vibrator company, we do collab together,
little thing. Okay, so they've Abby came first though, yeahb
became first with Bush.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yes, yes, got me the first house and there.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay, wait, you're telling me you bought a house with
your vibrator on outright?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it did get the deposits?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
How good?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Yeah, crazy, crazy money, it's insane. You will love to come,
so it turns out. But yeah, the butt plug, I
mean I am kind of the face of the butt plug.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
So that's been really, really fun.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
One of your people is absolutely laughing at the idea
of you being the face of a butt plug.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
By the way, my face on it, a little a
little sleeve the butt plug.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Which in did anybody? So my question was going to
be did anybody even try and talk you out of
doing these things? Did any sense of suit if I
say to you, hey, Abby, we're not sure that butt
plugs or vibrators is the direction that your career should
be moving and it's not safe territory.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes, losers.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
So actually my first quote unquote manager wouldn't call them
a manager.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
They weren't very good.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
The first month that I was like, Okay, maybe I
can earn enough money from this that I could not
go back to my corporate.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I got offered just a deal to do a.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Promo for a vibrated company, which was like four times
my social rates, which was more than a month of
income for me in my corporate jobs.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I was like, wild, one more month that work in corporate,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a month.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, I'm literally thinking how.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Many months can I not go back to an office
and wear a pencil skirt?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So I had a kitten here and a kitten here, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
At a button up and then the glasses that blue
light glass.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No one who wants to wear that I wear in
a barn anyway. So I was I really want to
do this, and they said, no, you're you won't be taken. Seriously,
you won't. You're leaning You'll be leaning in too far
into your bachelor Edit. It's gonna be bad for you,
bad for your career. And then I was like, but
(15:12):
I want the money, so and I also I don't
see anything wrong with it. Yeah, and it's so much
money for doing something that actually really aligns with me,
Like it's not like it's like totally, I'm going But
don't we all have fifteen vibrators and our drawers, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, why is it such a taboo thing?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Then I got rid of them and got my new manager,
who have had ever since. And then I got the
Bush deal two weeks later because he organized it and
we started working on it as he actually believed in me.
So it was Yeah, people have tried to say no, So.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What's the moral of the story. Then trust your gut.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Yeah, trust your gut if it sits right with you, right,
that's what you need to listen to, not everyone else. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
because I think people really want to always play by
the rules and take very low risks, especial when it
comes to money and this industry, and I just think
that that always ends up backfiring on people. I see
(16:02):
so many people that come off these shows and I'm like, God,
I should start a course to help you guys actually
get a career out of this, because you've just fumbled
it been too. It's a great idea, I know, but
I can't bother to talk to every maths contestant, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's fair enough, fair enough, and then I.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Actually have to reply to the dms of this contestants.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It would be your business.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
We've taken up so much of your time. Do you
want to ask about this.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
One last question? There's a lot of stuff that's happened.
This was a little while ago, but I thought you
were here. I need to ask you about this situation.
Do you remember this particular clip?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You're so pretty? What were you doing, Abbie?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Listen? Listen you doing?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I didn't this is the thing I.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Flirting with you, giving you the eyes and.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You didn't shoot your sean Well, she actually asked me
to go to the show that night.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
No, but I had radio, so I was like, I
gotta go on air.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Sorry, I gotta get back to the studio and go
on air. Sorry what so, yeah, I hate myself, but
I ELSEO didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The lunch comes out and you're like that could have
been yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
But see myself was seeming so low. I was like,
there's no way that Billie Eilish, I didn't even think
of it as an option, saying with you know his career.
I go, that's not a thing. So she's just doing
a job. I'm doing my job. Bye, and nice to
meet you I won't come to the show, so you
did not get the vibe like it was on No,
until I watched the footage back and I went, oh
it was then I like to a dm ella.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Watching that footage, I think she has imagined herself and
your body multiple times.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Oh my god, Oh sad.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
She was so angry. No for me.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
People were saying that I was a predator because she's
she was twenty one and I was twenty seven, And.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'm going calm down, every woman.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
She was slitting with you.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I know I'm going to Actually I was a recipient
of the.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Flir you were.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Poor me call me pretty?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
But yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
So I actually struggled to listen to her new music
because I go, what could have been?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It could have been out this all has happened after
that interview.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Sorry, you're living in LA like in a big mansion
with Billy Island.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Rather died than in La. So actually, there you go
the better and I'm with Adam from Peking Duck. Now
so's we're all going what could affair?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Australia's Billy Eilish's so Billy Eilish.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, we love you, Thank you for being honest. And
very open with us in this chats great and If
the Island is out and how you you can stream
the first season all of it now in season two
of If Island is going to be on hoy You
from August six eaby Chatfield. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
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Speaker 1 (18:58):
Did him
The z M podcast network.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
After all, we now recording recorded, because the whole way
through that one before I said, this is not the intro,
This is not the did you This is the intro
to the after party, which today is a bit different.
We had a chat with Ozzy, reality TV star, social
media personality radio presenter Abbie Chatfield. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Abby Chatfield was in Auckland promoting.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The TV show that she hosts, f Boy Ireland Australia,
and we just thought let's get.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Her on the podcast, so we had a longer chat
with her.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
You'll get an edited version of this on tomorrow's radio show,
but here is the unedited warts and all chat with
the wonderful Abbie Chatfield. It's a brand new season of
if Boy Ireland hitting to Hey you here in New Zealand,
and we're very lucky to have the host of that
show in studio with us right now. Welcome to the show,
Abbie Chatfield.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
Thanks Breing Clint. I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
It's so exciting to have you here.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
Oh my god, I think so excited this first.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Time in New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
First time.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
You're kidding me, no, I know, well, I've been saying
to everyone. I couldn't afford to leave the country for
a little while, you know, before I got this career,
So I'm going let me have my time, Ortho.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
I'm really sad. I'm only here for two days.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Free in total, but two shiit New Zealand with a days. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:19):
Well, I'm all here for the weather, you know what
I mean, coming from Bondai. I'm all here for the
vibes and the personalities, and I've had the best day ever.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Have you met good vibes and personalities?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Genuinely, every single person that I've been interviewed by has
been so funny, such good content.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Really gorgeously dressed. Everyone smells nice. I don't know what's
happening over here.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
It's like a better version of Australia. And then you
come over here him funny bush pigs over here.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Yeah, it was down, but I will persevere.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, what goes up must come down exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
You are Loki or not? So low key obsisted with
crowded house of sess. Does anyone offered to like sit
you up with a meeting with Nil Finn while you're
here in New Zealand.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
No, but I have been offered a few times in
the past to interview him, okay, to go backstage before
his show or something. But I just I just feel like,
what am I going to say to Neil Finn, you know?
Or I'm going to say something very embarrassing or I'll
cry or faint or something I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Well, don't because please welcome to the studio the Neil, the.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Honorable Finn Cousins hairdresser.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
I'd accept that I probably fainted that as well.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Honestly, like, what's he lying?
Speaker 4 (02:29):
He does have great here. You're the host of If
Boy Isreland? How do you define IF Boy?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Okay, So, I think at their core, F boys are
insecure losers who manipulate women in order to feel better
about themselves and get a very very empty validation between
women's mind.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
It sounds like you're speaking from experience.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
Would you say you've accidentally dated an F boy ball, Yes,
every single person that I've ever dated I think is
an F boy in some way if we did it,
every single brother until.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Except for my beautiful boyfriend, who you think.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Would be an F boy being a DJ DJ and
you know I would call him a rockstar.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Guys, in my eyes, we.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Know, can we say.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
We've met him quite a few times, lovely, always been
an absolute delight.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
He didn't ask, but we approve.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Thank you so much, see a little problem from us.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
We love him. He helped us to a prank one
time where there used to be a person who worked
in that coffee shop out there that.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Looked exactly like him. He bought.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
We thought he bore a striking resemblance until we come
in here and put them side by side, and we
sent the coffee guy in here to do an interview
in and it didn't work at all, but he was
up for it, which is lovely.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
Did Adam to the coffee because you know that Ruben
the other half of Peer Duck Ruben. Adam told me
literally last night that Ruben actually was the best barista
in Australia for a period of time.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
Adam was like top three in Canberra.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I'm going to get so together.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
They are the coffee boys, the coffee boys who also
do music.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
They don't understand. It's very strange, but f boys.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
I feel like they.
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Just losers who don't know how to communicate and are
just desperate, little vulnerable freaks.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Is it their fault?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I mean, tell us what you really think empathetic exactly exactly,
predicting their own insecurities in toxic ways.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Right, absolutely, like things like bread crumbing, love bombing what
bread crumbing is when I'm sure.
Speaker 7 (04:35):
Give a little bit, give a little bit, a little
bit and take a little bit of what a little
bit of at you know, some fable where like if
you're seeing someone and slowly they fade away, then they
come back with.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
A little bit, Yes, sow you a little bit, little
bit little.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
Dream about you last night. That's such an if boy
had a dream about you, that's not having the dream storyline.
I don't want to know exactly story like exactly or
reply to a story with a fire emoji, which I
will say, Adam actually think to me for two years.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
So now I'm kind of going, what's happening there? Sorry,
I've just had a realization.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I'm going like hard, Yeah, do if girls exist?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Absolutely?
Speaker 4 (05:15):
They do?
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Absolutely? Yes, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I mean I've dated definitely girls that I would say
girls for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Does it look different do you think women?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
I think so, but I think it's a different, I
mean different thing. But they definitely do exist.
Speaker 5 (05:32):
What sort of what's the difference?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
I feel like it's hard to just let me think
back of in my past dating days. They'll just do
things that just a normal probably girl wouldn't do when
they're dating, like like date multiple people but not tell
you about it, like you know, play the field, but
(05:56):
not be honest about it.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
That type of thing.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Oh you could host girl Island, Oh my god, you could.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
They did in America.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Well they called it Lovers and Liars because they wouldn't
call it F girl Island, which is a bit silly.
Equality yeah, equality vibe. So I think it wouldn't work
as well because they'd be harder to find. They are
harder to find, they are. But I think the thing
is like I think then the F girls have it's
more of an empowerment thing or like it's funny, but
(06:27):
I think, honestly, let's be real, there is a real
epidemic of f boys around and men just having because
of patriarchy, feminism.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
Blah blah blah. It's more empowering when we're a bit
mean to me.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah, sure, you definitely are. On the show I've seen
season one. I feel like you do it in a
real funny, charismatic way.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
I really wanted to.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Know because on the show, you look after three girls
who are dating this group of boys, and in the
group of boys there's obviously f boys, but then there's
also nice boys.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Can you do you get to know or can you
tell like straight away? Which is which?
Speaker 5 (07:03):
No, I'm so bad at it. I get tricked by
them as well. I don't really get to know.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I know like boy radar is off.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It's so bad because the issue on the show is
because they're trying to win money, you lose all sense
of trust with them because if they're nice to me,
I go, are you trying to trick me because you
know they tell the girls things?
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Or are you nice because you're being polite?
Speaker 6 (07:26):
Because a lot of a lot of the times I
can tell a telltale way to tell an f boy
from a nice guy is if they're rude to me
when we aren't filming or ignore me when we aren't filming,
then it's like they have an issue with female authority,
and therefore.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
They are f boys And it's usual that's like genuinely education.
It actually is because they have it.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
They like don't think that I should be in charge
of them in a weird way because it comes down
to no, not to get too feminist guys, but it
doesn't sound to a bit of patriarchy.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
And they really have an issue with it.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
So, like, you know, one of them, you know, they'll
ignore me if I say, guys, can you be getting
instructions with the producers? You know, like don't let the
move tell them to they can get water afterwards whatever.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
You're also the host.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
You're the boss the host, and I'm the boss exactly.
And ones that ignore me are usually f boys, and
one gets into me because it's like they can't help
when they're off camera being polite to someone someone.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Pro tip to any future if boys, if you want
to maintain your cover, be kind off camera as well.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
I feel like that's also just great advice in life
in general. You can always tell what a person is
really like deep down by how they treat everyone, not
just the people who they need to be nice to
do or get stuff from, wait stuff, you know, just
everyone in general.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Like it's a good like rule to follow.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, it's also how they treat crews, like if I
see them be a producer European ship.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Like, do any of them slid into your dms after
filming or during filming?
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Well, they don't have the phone.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But yeah, I have had a few slide in, but
not in like a sexual way, almost in a wanting
me to help them with their career way, which is
actually more offensive.
Speaker 4 (09:11):
You know, at least come on to me.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
I know.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
So I'm not your mentor for friends. Yeah, I'd rather
have a crack.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
I was going to ask you because obviously you were
on the show The Bachelor. Yeah, you're iconic on that show,
so many amazing one liners. You're now I mean, hosting
radio shows, hosting podcasts, a huge social media following, hosting
TV shows.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Is this was this the dream? Is this where you
wanted to end up?
Speaker 6 (09:38):
No, babe, like every job that I could offer, Like like,
I have a degree in property economics, so I did
not know that you guys.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Fun fact, I don't want to know.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
It's just like commercial real estate, and you can be
a valuer or a town.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Imagined in town planning, genuinely therapy.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Now see it's like and wait look at us nowt
us now.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
In this beautiful corner office.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
But yeah, it was ever the plan.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
And when I went off The Bachelor, I still worked
in real estate for six months and then I just
kind of kept getting opportunities and offered to me, like
my radio show. When I got offered it, I was
sitting in I pulled over for this meeting with like
the head of the station in Australia, who apparently I
didn't know it was a big deal at the time.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
I was like, Oh, I got this meeting with this
guy whatever.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
And I'm chowing down mac is my leg up in
active rate and generation?
Speaker 5 (10:34):
What time?
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Whatever?
Speaker 5 (10:36):
And it's like, so it's.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Not been my honest like a wanker when I say that,
But it's like, I just don't. I guess because I
worked in corporate. I never thought that I could do
these things.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So what's the point in dreaming?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
You know what I mean is it makes.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Sense like it does, but I could have a radio show,
So why would I dream of having a radio show?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
But it was offered to me? And I go, yeah,
love that, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, because I think that's underselling yourself a bit. Are
you saying that the secret to one of the secrets
of your success is not trying?
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Really, I feel like that under sells your ambition.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
No, I agree with you, because then you're just one
hundred percent authentically yourself.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Yeah, I just don't feel like there's much to lose
because a huge pull for me isn't like fame. It
definitely is money though, because I have two mortgages, but
fame too. Now, Yeah, ohn't tell anyone gratulations. Yeah no,
But like I think that I haven't ever been.
Speaker 5 (11:31):
Oh, I really want to be. Oh going to the
logis is.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
So exciting, or like, oh I want to meet this person,
and like I don't really care. I just want to
walk my dogs and yap on the internet about feminism
or things that I care about.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
I think that's actually what it is that I don't
really care.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Okay, that's an interesting taking on because I looked at
you as a hugely ambitious person who's probably had got
a list of goals that you've gone tech tech tech
tech tech.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
I adhd I kind of remember doing my keys here
right now? I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
And also I think because you guys would understand, in
this industry, things change so quickly, and what people like
what they don't like changes so quickly, Like tomorrow, I
could have no career. So if I'm putting my entire
sense of self onto my career, which I never really
wanted but I don't.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Want it, but I was never desiring it. It was
nothing that even comprehended.
Speaker 6 (12:23):
Then if it goes away, which very easily could, and
that would just ruin my whole sense of self.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
So I just kind of.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's a great way to be.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, then you're you're not so worried about losing anything,
and so you don't change yourself and you're not just
panicking all the time, so you're able to just relax
and be you, yeah, and be authentic.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And I feel like that comes through in your content.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
Thanks God.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
Yeah, it's kind of like I don't I don't seek
the approval of executives, do you know what I mean? Oh, like,
what do they want to see? I just go, well,
this is who I am and I can't really change it.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
I'm mistake it or leave it. Yeah, and if you
want to leave it, I'll go do something else.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Yeah, I got to real estate. I'll just plan a
little town or something.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
This question actually kind of directly relates to that. Then
what is it like being the boss of a butt
plug company?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, I'm actually not the boss. I'm merely you know, collab.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
No, it was yours.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
Well, it's mine in that I thought of the idea,
and then normal the vibrator company, we do collab together,
little thing. Okay, so they've Abby came first though, yeahb
became first with Bush.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yes, yes, got me the first house and there.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Okay, wait, you're telling me you bought a house with
your vibrator on outright?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
But it did get the deposits?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
How good?
Speaker 6 (13:30):
Yeah, crazy, crazy money, it's insane. You will love to come,
so it turns out. But yeah, the butt plug, I
mean I am kind of the face of the butt plug.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
So that's been really, really fun.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
One of your people is absolutely laughing at the idea
of you being the face of a butt plug.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
By the way, my face on it, a little a
little sleeve the butt plug.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Which in did anybody? So my question was going to
be did anybody even try and talk you out of
doing these things? Did any sense of suit if I
say to you, hey, Abby, we're not sure that butt
plugs or vibrators is the direction that your career should
be moving and it's not safe territory.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
Yes, losers.
Speaker 6 (14:09):
So actually my first quote unquote manager wouldn't call them
a manager.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
They weren't very good.
Speaker 6 (14:15):
The first month that I was like, Okay, maybe I
can earn enough money from this that I could not
go back to my corporate.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
I got offered just a deal to do a.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
Promo for a vibrated company, which was like four times
my social rates, which was more than a month of
income for me in my corporate jobs.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I was like, wild, one more month that work in corporate,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's a month.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Yeah, I'm literally thinking how.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Many months can I not go back to an office
and wear a pencil skirt?
Speaker 1 (14:43):
So I had a kitten here and a kitten here, yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
At a button up and then the glasses that blue
light glass.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
No one who wants to wear that I wear in
a barn anyway. So I was I really want to
do this, and they said, no, you're you won't be taken. Seriously,
you won't. You're leaning You'll be leaning in too far
into your bachelor Edit. It's gonna be bad for you,
bad for your career. And then I was like, but
(15:12):
I want the money, so and I also I don't
see anything wrong with it. Yeah, and it's so much
money for doing something that actually really aligns with me,
Like it's not like it's like totally, I'm going But
don't we all have fifteen vibrators and our drawers, you
know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah, why is it such a taboo thing?
Speaker 7 (15:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Then I got rid of them and got my new manager,
who have had ever since. And then I got the
Bush deal two weeks later because he organized it and
we started working on it as he actually believed in me.
So it was Yeah, people have tried to say no, So.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What's the moral of the story. Then trust your gut.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Yeah, trust your gut if it sits right with you, right,
that's what you need to listen to, not everyone else. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
because I think people really want to always play by
the rules and take very low risks, especial when it
comes to money and this industry, and I just think
that that always ends up backfiring on people. I see
(16:02):
so many people that come off these shows and I'm like, God,
I should start a course to help you guys actually
get a career out of this, because you've just fumbled
it been too. It's a great idea, I know, but
I can't bother to talk to every maths contestant, you know,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's fair enough, fair enough, and then I.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Actually have to reply to the dms of this contestants.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
It would be your business.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
We've taken up so much of your time. Do you
want to ask about this.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
One last question? There's a lot of stuff that's happened.
This was a little while ago, but I thought you
were here. I need to ask you about this situation.
Do you remember this particular clip?
Speaker 5 (16:36):
You're so pretty? What were you doing, Abbie?
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Listen? Listen you doing?
Speaker 6 (16:46):
I didn't this is the thing I.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Flirting with you, giving you the eyes and.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
You didn't shoot your sean Well, she actually asked me
to go to the show that night.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
No, but I had radio, so I was like, I
gotta go on air.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Sorry, I gotta get back to the studio and go
on air. Sorry what so, yeah, I hate myself, but
I ELSEO didn't.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
The lunch comes out and you're like that could have
been yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:13):
But see myself was seeming so low. I was like,
there's no way that Billie Eilish, I didn't even think
of it as an option, saying with you know his career.
I go, that's not a thing. So she's just doing
a job. I'm doing my job. Bye, and nice to
meet you I won't come to the show, so you
did not get the vibe like it was on No,
until I watched the footage back and I went, oh
it was then I like to a dm ella.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Watching that footage, I think she has imagined herself and
your body multiple times.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
Oh my god, Oh sad.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
She was so angry. No for me.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
Sorry.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
People were saying that I was a predator because she's
she was twenty one and I was twenty seven, And.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
I'm going calm down, every woman.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
She was slitting with you.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I know I'm going to Actually I was a recipient
of the.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Flir you were.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Poor me call me pretty?
Speaker 4 (18:04):
But yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
So I actually struggled to listen to her new music
because I go, what could have been?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It could have been out this all has happened after
that interview.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Sorry, you're living in LA like in a big mansion
with Billy Island.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Rather died than in La. So actually, there you go
the better and I'm with Adam from Peking Duck. Now
so's we're all going what could affair?
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Australia's Billy Eilish's so Billy Eilish.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Yeah, we love you, Thank you for being honest. And
very open with us in this chats great and If
the Island is out and how you you can stream
the first season all of it now in season two
of If Island is going to be on hoy You
from August six eaby Chatfield. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Thanks guy.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
On instance, Facebook, TikTok and live weekdays for three
Speaker 1 (18:58):
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