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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome along to the podcast Thursday the twentieth of November
twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
And if you didn't know, we also do a radio show.
And as of today, because we're in the jhon Oan
Ben Beach House down at Bonnie Doon while our studio
has been refurbished.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Is it title? Is it title the History outside the
John Oan Ben? Because I'm down and crossed it? Yeah,
it is, it's title.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
An it's the white mangroves. It's the white matar. No,
it's not mangroves. It's it's like boardwalk sort of. I
don't know, harbor harbour side urban. Okay, it's an urban match.
That's quite good, such as the money that they paying
at the hits. But anyway, what that means is, I'm
we're over the opposite side of the building. And I
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walked out into the office. Oh, Rudy, you've been having
a meal.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
This desk I have not enjoyed.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Is there something underneath it? Is there an annoying computer writer?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
I've done that three times as well.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So inferior, Well, your needs in great condition, Jerry, So
that would have gone well for you.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, no, it's luckily the other.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Knee Okay, no, mine's my right neck. Hey speaking of
getting paid lots of money, I don't know, actually know Jerry,
if you're allowed to talk about this. But I see
Ginny make Coffins leaving Breakfast and they put her job
up on Seek for turnerd and fifty to three undred
and fifty k a year.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I saw, I saw that used today that A like
as Earth.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
That's how I replace them.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Why would you put it up on so? I mean
I work for TV. Yeah, careful what I say. But
like so you saying likes A. There's a particular set
of skills that it takes to do a breakfast television show,
and so you've got to have had a certain amount
of experience presenting television. Like the think that there's going
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to be random person that's going to turn up out
of the blue that is going to go okay, put
up their hand and go yeah, I'm going to be
the new host of Breakfast, and then they're going to
find the person from yeah, yeah, exactly what were you doing?
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Oh well, I was a receptionist at the hotel around
the corner.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, all due respect, it's a it's a particular skill.
I mean, there's a lot of auto qu reading. So
you'd think that the person would have to either come
out of news or at least some kind of program
in the past. Yes, Otherwise you've got to learn how
to read an audicure and that it's a it's a
skill that actually takes years. It's a craft.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
No, No, And I suppose now is as good as
a time as any to announce that I will be
joining the Breakfast TV show.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
So we'reabouts between that two fifty and three fifty K.
Can you say is at the lower end of the
higher in lower.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
End, yeah, end of that.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I mean, that's and that's interesting in itself because that's
kind of I don't know. I don't know how Chris
Chang feels about that, because now that's kind of, yeah,
showing people how much you're showing your hands.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
It's also it's like when the silver Ferns didn't they
list the job when they made Noles reapply.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
They listed it on seek.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
I was like, oh, fucks, ef, I know there's only
a certain amount of people that could be.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
And they know who those people are before they list that.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
I would have hoped that they that they know who
those people are. The other part about it is surely
Chris Chang, Is he involved in this? Because if I
was Chris Chang and they go, Okay, we're just going
to get some random person to turn up, and like
he's got to set with the person. Yes, it's really
up to her.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I would have thought, I know this is near and
dear to your heart because you weren't consulted when they
brought me on, and this has been.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
A bond oft contingent. It's been a bone of contingent
for us. Shucked you at me. It's like, you go
deal with this, deal with this sea.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
Do you reckon? They'll run red.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Do you reckon?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
They'll run it the same way, and they'll get people
like Joe wheel that to come in for a week,
Laura McGoldrick can ever go.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
And then they'll just pick me Lane and then they'll
just pick Simon Deller. After all of that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I don't know. I was an interesting Maybe it's got
something to do with the Kmal Santa Maria situation. I
don't know if we can even talk about that because
that's like before the courts, but but maybe it was
something to do with that that after that they had
some protocols. I feel like there was a report that
Scott commissioned to TV and Z and then they changed
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the way that they do it. Maybe that maybe they
just legally have to do it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, legally you have to advertise for all open positions.
I think I think that's what it is. But they
will be the only reason they will know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
That could be the only reason.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Can I apply?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Please? Well apparently you can.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Okay, I'm going to you. Why don't you like, why
don't you fear of failure?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Still you'll we'll find out whether or not in that
situation that is.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
That's a good idea.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
That's actually our hands in the ring.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
We should do it. I reckon mash should ever go.
I'd love a young up and color.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yep. It's a pretty punishing job. I don't know you
want to take job? It's so punishing, man, Yeah, it's
the most punishing job on TV. That one man.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
You get a lot of feet.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's funny because you know, people talk about how no
one watches TV anymore and all that kind of thing.
It's still the king make it. Like I've been on
radio and podcasts now for years and doing this like
talking into microphones for a long time, but all anyone
really talks to me about is those two seasons of
that half assed TV show we did.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Yeah, it's like that's all anyone saw.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It's like, it's interesting that it is interesting. I think
I think radio as a medium that they're so different,
but I think that radio does get into people's like
when you're on radio and you're doing it for some time.
I think it does get into people's souls more than television.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Oh, definitely, because you listen to it by yourself as
you watch TV and groups like you and your family
sit around TV, but particularly podcasts you listen to by yourself,
so you feel like you know the people that you're
listening to, and you do to be fure but but
it's really, like you say, personal, and it's only you.
It's like a one on one thing, whereas TV you're
acutely aware that you're watching with everyone else. And so
(06:05):
I remember years a couple of years ago when the
whole Up the Wast thing was going on twenty twenty three.
At that time, I was doing about ten to twelve
podcasts a week talking about sport and the odd radio
hit whatever, and they got me on the project.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So it's cool.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I actually I think it was the last episode
that you heard. But they got me on to talk
about the Warriors, and after I finished, I was, you know,
saying goodbye.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Ever on the stitio.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They're like, that's really good. You're really good at that.
I've just said the same thing twelve different times on
twelve Like, you just weren't listening really good at that, man, Yeah,
you should do that more often.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
I was like, I do it forty hours a week.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
I'm not notice, not notice mate. Yeah that's right, i'd say.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But then, yeah, so people say no one watches TV.
It's still the only thing that's like, I don't know,
it's it's still the king Maker.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I know people say people don't watch TV, but that
But also there's this idea that like broadcast TV, it's dead.
No one's watching broadcasts everything. Nearly seven hundred thousand people
a night tune into one news Like that's yeah, that's
individual people. That's a huge audience. Like there's no radio
audience in New Zealand, which is seven hundred thousand people.
That's that's twice the biggest radio audience. And and that's
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that's every that's every night.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, we watched the news every single night, and it's
because it's something to have on while you're eating dinner
and or like you're on your phone or if you
know what I mean. Like it's when you're eating dinner
or doing something else. You don't want to sit down
and watch something you're going to give you full attention to.
And that's what the news are so good.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Our news lends itself to pictures, like it's nice to
be able to see the pictures and that and that's
what that's what TV won news is. And I think
people also watch it because TV one curates it and
there's so much news now, there's so much ripe. Yeah,
and with with online always looking for clacks, which is there,
which is their currency. I understand that I'm not going
to sizing them for that, but no, but they they
(08:02):
want They basically will just deliver anything for a click
and and and it's over when they don't need they
don't need pictures. They don't need to have pictures to
talk about a story. It's like radio. You can talk
about anything on radio, which is its strength, and it's
also immediate. Yeah, straight through a microphone. Podcast is slightly different,
but with actual live radio, it's it is it is
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immediate information that's coming straight through at you.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Happy.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
TV TV news takes a wee while put together because
you've got to put the pictures on it, you got
to be edited. Blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's the same thing.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I think.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
The same reason people still like to listen to radio,
despite the fact that Spotify and podcasts and all that
exist is because I don't want to sit there and
pick every single song I listen to want someone else
to pick it. And I don't want to have to
pick exactly what podcasts listen to about exactly what topic
or whatever. You know, I want someone else to go
out there and pick it for me.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, No, podcast is a podcast is a complete different thing.
And and podcasts you can you can crap on and
you can, and you sign up to it, and you
sign up to dealing with the crap and then you enjoy,
you enjoy wherever it goes. I mean a podcast interview
compared to a television interview compared to a radio interview,
then that just such different differings.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
But anyway, back to what I was saying. As soon
as we turn the microphones on because we're over the site,
I ran into the person who's in charge of podcasts
here it ends in me and she goes, hey, hey,
what's with everyone going? Did you know these guys do
a radio show?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
And yes and so yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
I explained the situation to her and she was like,
oh love that, which I think is funny that the
person who's in charge of podcasts gets it. Like the
idea that you listen to the podcast, but you don't
listen to the radio show because you didn't know we
did one. It's like, No, the reason you don't listen
is because you're either not in a car or whatever
at that time, or you don't have a frequency or whatever,
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you know what I mean. It's not because you didn't No,
we did a radiotion.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
No, I forgot to tell you. I forgot to tell you.
You should have missed it on the radio this morning.
That when I came down to here the cross which
I was walking into the ground Plasta Hotel, and I
was standing waiting in line, and the guy came up
to me and goes, I, I the greatest thing that's
happened to me this week. I've been listening to your
podcast for ages, and the best thing that happened to
me this week is I found out that you do
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a radio show, And I said, Oh, it just brought
me so much joy. It's the best.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
It's the greatest in joke that only we on the
podcast know about. And the best thing that's happening, as
you said last week, was that people don't a lot
of people don't get it. Like if you don't listen
to the podcast, you don't you're not in on the joke.
You don't get it. But so keep keep particularly on
social media, keep posting that holy shit, just found out
these guys do a radio show about that, Because now
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everyone texting into the radio show is going, hey guys,
longtime podcast listener, just found.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Out you did a radio show.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And then they chext and it's the best keep guing, Shoot,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Let's segarbreak come back and see.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
He's the blessed in your bath.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Oh the post that keeps posting got into the Conclave.
If you didn't know, we've got our own Facebook page.
It's called the Conclave. The reason it's a private page
is one to stop spam because once you get in there,
you know, we have to approve all the people that
get in there. We don't want those like, we don't
want Russian bots basically getting in there, or people spamming
with like fake links and all that kind of stuff.
(11:31):
So anyway, I got on there the other day and said,
we're kicking it into neutral. What do you want us
to talk about on the podcast? Sam just commented yesterday,
can we talk about Jerry's national tour to all of
his hs refs anyway?
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You yeah, yeah, spent good time in the I don't
like being in hotel rooms by myself away on work.
It's kind of a I see why.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
I see what you're doing here, well, by the way,
doing that thing where it's like, oh, I hate being
away from home.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
That's awful. It's my thing turned off.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
No, no, we got we got you.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Do you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you hear
it's weird. I can't hear myself all of a sudden.
That's quite unusual.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
You're pretty boring, so that would must have knocked it
with your nob or something.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That's actually quite weird. So I don't I see why
people get prostitutes because, you know, being in hotel rooms.
I don't know something lonely about a hotel room. You
go to the TV yeah, wake one out after you've
done that. It's like you look on your phone, you
wander around, you walk around your room. Nede put the
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robe on, so I get, I get why you know
you're looking for just a little bit of company. That's yeah, Londy, Yeah,
like a Lundy sort of situation. Yesterday, I was in
my room and ate dinner, and I was about ready
to turn down the next thing. Not There's a knock
at the door and a lovely young lady appeared, and
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she had a cheeseboard and she said to me, I'm
just wondering if you're interested in this. I said yes,
and then she delivered me a cheeseboard and the cheeseboard
I had a note from the hotel manager who said,
good day, Jeremy. Nice to have you staying here. I
hope you enjoy this cheeseboard.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Is that is that like code among you when you
send a girl up with.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
A cheeseboard and then and she goes, are you interested
in that?
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Just said?
Speaker 4 (13:24):
And then what's the code phrase that you have to
pass back to her?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Do you go?
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Is the charcuterie fresh? And then she goes it is?
And that's her cue to come in.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
How does that work? I enjoyed it. Though there's some
quints on there with some delicious different cheeses. There was free,
there was blue.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Why was there whipped cream on them? But I didn't understand.
I couldn't figure that.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Now, it was just such a treat. I've had a
few great things that have happened to me this week
and my travels. Yeah, got that random act of kindness
with that guy board sex beers Caleb. It was so nice.
And then and then they plump me in the presidential
suite very kindly at the Scenic Hotel. That was nice.
And now I'm getting the bloody cheese board and the
the Scenic I'm sorry at the Crown Plaza happening.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
I've never had the cheese board delivered.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I've never had the cheese board either. That's a that's
totally a new thing for me. And with the Turkish Delight, and.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Turkish delight like one of the ones out of favorites
or something about flashy.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
No, no, just one of the like one of the
ones that are in a packet. I don't know whether
the person's a listener or something and knows that I
love Turkey. I was like, how do you know that
I love Turkish Delight? How would you know that it
was just left over?
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Because you know that's what people give away the kids
at Halloween trick or treating. It's like, oh fuck, we
don't want these cherry ripes and Turkish Delarights. We're just
because of the kids.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Maybe it's a long term listener that was my top
five chocolate bars that years ago, or I don't know,
someone's remembered something.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I chuned out for a second that we still talking
about the girl that brought.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
The sha.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
And a delay.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Yeah, she wasn't too. She's very keen to bring it
in a lot of them to bring it into the
room the cheeseboard. Yeah, yeah, I just I can take that,
I reckon.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
She was a lot of a lot of posts echoing
the same sort of thing. They want to know more
about hsrf's highly secured ruining facilities. A few people ask
a lot of people asking about the shaker and reewalker,
a lot of people asking about the potential for us
to start doing a radio show. Indipth conversation about New
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Zealand's test team for the Australia Tour next year, will
Williamson still be around. What does the bowling attack look
like Sears, Jamison, Henry.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
I think Williamson will be around, Yes, I think that
will be. I say that would be the last overseas
tour because this year they've got England and they've got Australia. Right.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, They've got England for three, then potentially won against
Ireland and then they come back here early summer for
US two against India and then they go to Australia
for four.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Right, So I assume that how old is Williams in
thirty four?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I think he's thirty five year.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Older than me, okay two case.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
It depends on his fitness and all sorts of stuff.
But I assume that he will want to challenge himself
in Australia against Australia, Yeah, he'd think so that's the
kind of the pinnacle cricketing. Ye, our success, and he'll
probably want to challenge himself in England as well, like
those two those two places are the best two places
to tour in the world.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Opening bowlers would be Henry will be there, and I
honestly think I think it's Henry and Jamison opening.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
No, I reckon I reckon O'Rourke and Australia will be good.
Oh yeah, but the bounce if we could.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Get Henry O'Rourke and Jamison, Yeah, I don't forget.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We haven't got a Rourke playing at the moment in
our time. He's been actually Henry has been out our
best bowler, but then Rourk has has been a sensation.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, Duffy Duffy is good. Duffy's been excellent, But Duffy
and o'rourc are a bit much so muchness, I think, yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I think I still would have I would take a
four prong pace attack of Henry, Duffy, Punisher, O'Rourke and
Jamison and then with Santana as your spinner. Yep, And
I reckon that there's your bowling attack in Australia. Nathan
Smith as I love Nathan Smith. Australians, Yeah, but Australians
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that love. He's a good player, but I just think
he's not. You've got to be incredibly accurate and you've
got to get extra bounce and he's quite short.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Nathan Smith, Ben Sears, Ben Sears there for you.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
Jerry Nah, you know he's second, He's he's look he's
he's there or thereabouts, but he's not. He's not of
the caliber of those other guys, I don't think, folks. Folks,
now that's good cool. I mean in the one day
is yes, is your test bowler? Yep? He could be.
Why isn't he Yeah, he's knocking on the door. He's
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definitely knocking on the door, folks.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
So you're opening with who Will Young?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
You're opening with?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Or is it Conway?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Lathans? Conway Lathan and Conway? And you've got Williamson Williamson.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
I was starting to think Conway had lost it, but man,
he's looked good in the last.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Week or so.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
All of a sudden, who's it for again? Will Young?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Will Young? Can I interest you in a Will Young?
Are you being paid by Big Will Young to keep
mentioning him?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I'd take him as attractive.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
He's an attractive player.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
He is, and I feel like he's fallen out of
favor very quickly, despite the fact that I felt like
he was our best Test batsman for quite a while there.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
I think he's I think he's it'll be interesting in
Australia with the extra bounce outside off stump and back
foot drive that he loves to play with the extra bounce.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Revenge Astranger's He'll be number four, number four, will Young.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Young at five.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Now I reckon Darryl Mitchell at five.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Actually all Darryl Mitchell at five years.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Do you know what I don't want to see? I
don't I don't want to see Tom Blundell still our
keeper and taken as a number six. That would hurt
my feelings.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
No, I'd put Blunderle at six.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
He's gonna be about fucking fifty by next year.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
At the Test side, I put Blundlet six, and then
I'd go Center at seven, and then I go Jamison
at eight, and then I'd go, oh, Rourke, Who else
have we got O'Rourke, Henry Henry and Duffy Blundle, guys
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with the extra bounce they've got, We've got a pace
attack with a bit of bounce.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
In Australia, Tom Blundell is exactly a month younger than
Can Williamson.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So exactly so Tom Blundles there, I mean he's been betting.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, what about my cock?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Sorry, I don't know when I think about that right now. No,
I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Think of Mike. Cock makes me laugh. You got court coming,
Miguel Gorilla, you got caught coming yesterday.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
One for the future. Tom Jones, not the singer Tom Jones.
There he'll be in there at three when Williamson's gone.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Not in Australia. For me, Tom Jones, I'd probably only
run him on the green green grass of home. And
that is some of the best joke writing. You're here
on a podcast.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Okay, let's leave it on that, Alliant. We've just peaked,
all right, all right, Mark, I got the green green Yeah,
come to me, smiling, sweet lad. It's good to touch
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the green green grass a home
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Us