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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Scared Bizars.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
That's the tenth of September in the Year of Our Lord,
twenty twenty four. Welcomeore you bespoke You doc is the
day he bespoke podcast. Big big pot today, Big guess
he's not here yet, big and size, tall, handsome, fantastic
human being.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I'm here every day. Boy.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
The term we've got something for the mums has bandied
about a lot on the show. But we have something
for the mums for sure today.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Oh yeah, the box were audio based, but still you
can wear a photo out and maybe maybe the mums
will be into that. Yeah, whether you and it no,
with with our.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Guesst and then you two.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I don't know should we be don't we don't stand
beside him?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
No, I don't want to be.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I think should we put him at the front. I
think put him at the front and we'll be in
the we stand. Were you just Gary in the corner? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I think that's probably good idea because I think day
to day walking around I can sort of pass myself
off as a human being, like a like a specimenber
anywhere near him, I'm like some kind of like antita
or waterhole or you know what I mean. It just
it just it's just so bad in comparison.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Look, you've got things he doesn't have. You've got a
massive gap between your box, but your big toe in
the first toe, he doesn't have that.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
He doesn't have that. No, I bet he's not. He
can't wrap us, he can't pick up things off the
floor like I can and use like four limbs instead
of just two.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
No, I mean he does he know as much about
Star Wars as you?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Probably not, although I got David Prowse and Peter Mayhew
mixed up before, so James or Joan of course passing
today the voice of Darth Vader. And you know on
a number of me. Have you watched a movie Field
of Dreams. He's good in that, James, Yes, Yeah, great.
Has he got Costner in it as well?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Costa.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I haven't seen for Costner recently. How's he doing. He's
done some weird surgeries.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
He left Yellowstone, which was a very successful show. This
is what he always does. Costna keeps in the show
and he gets out and then it makes a really
boring cowboy epic that I wants to say. He's got
a problem. As soon as he has any success, he
bundles up that money and makes a really horrifically long,
boring cowboy movie. He can't help himself. He's got a
problem and there needs to be a Kevin Constant intervention.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Has anyone met Costa?
Speaker 2 (02:37):
No, he hates being interviewed. Remember when we were interviewing
Graham Norton. He was telling us the story that Kevin
Costa just doesn't like being interviewed, doesn't like being on
the couch. And he was on Graham Norton and he
wouldn't answer any of his questions until Helen Muran asked them.
Was asking the same questions you need to answer hers,
but not great. That's interesting. I suppose he doesn't need to.
He wasn't an asshole. He just doesn't feel comfortable in
(02:58):
that situation.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Yeah, you know, he has never really acted in his life.
He does the same thing every time. Yeah, it's he
he goes back to the Kevin Costner. But it works
because he kind of seems like every person. Yeah, you
can imagine him being pretty much everything.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, he's in every man. Okay, I'm going to go
sort of a bit of a bracket here. I'll say
an actor and put him up against Kevin Costa, and
see who you prefer, Okay, Reddy Boys, Kevin Costner or
Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Kevin Tom Hanks, Kevin Costner or
Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Kevin Costner or Denzel Washington.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Denzel Washington.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He's doing terribly, isn't he?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Costner.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I'm now strong to think of an actor that I
don't prefer.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
I've never been a huge fan, but at the same
time I don't. I don't He's not really in a
movie for me, which I kind of like, He's always good,
Let's be honest, He's always feel like Tom Cruise is
kind of always Tom Cruise, as you know, it's Time
Cruise the whole time, and it's like, and you know
it's Tom Hanks apart from when he honked in the
Elvis film when he actually you knew it was Hanks
(04:08):
then as well. Actually, whereas Kevin Costner, you sometimes will forget,
like for example, in Jfkay Jim Garrison.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
When he just their accent just going and going and going.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Jim Garrison never had. That was a weird accent that
Jim Garrison never had making up an accent.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Same for fucking Hanks and the Elvis movie. The Colonel
never had that accent. I was like, oh, what was that.
You're doing that weird voice because you've studied the colonel
and he talks like that. No he didn't. He didn't
talk in a slight Dutch American weird.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We've done this bit before, but can you only imagine
the cast and crew when that first take of Tom
Hanks in that.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Film he turns up the pull up as jumper, It's
like you're gonna run a fat so.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
But got some weird he's got a weird accent. Now
he's turned into his stuffs. He's speaking like Elvis. Now
I know he's done.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
I can't and a kamala aris where you put on
an accent for different things, but now it's.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Known as a Jim Bolder as well. He used to
do that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
He's one hundred percent now Elvis. And you've seen things
like when he accept wards. Now he now took. I
guess like a charitable way to look at it would
be to say that he was in character for so
long that it changed his accent. Maybe an uncharitable way
to look at it, as it's fucking pretentious and now
he's decided to talk Alvis all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
And I flipped floped between those two.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Bodyguard hanging out the mega Whitney Whitney Whitney.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Or Kevin Whitney every day of the week Whitney Houston's achieved. Yeah,
come on, man, that's an easy one. Musically, I'd rather
be Kevin Costner the Whitney Houston. I agree with that
as well.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
How do you feel about Tin Cup?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Who? T Cap? Who's Tim Cup?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Tin Cup?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh? Tin Cup?
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Tin Cup?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
It's a tin cup.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Tin Cup was the nineteen nineteen ninety six American romantic
comedy and sports film co written and directed by Ron
Shelton and starring Kevin Costna and Renee Rousseau. No, I
didn't see it. What do you said on Water World?
I actually quite like World World. It's stupid, but and
it was like one of those movies was just hemorrhaging money.
That's kind of done. What annoyed me about that is
that they were there a world completely cut covered in water,
(06:13):
but everyone was smoking, and you have these people of smokers.
Where are they going in the.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Back in a world? Yeah, in the world cover govern
water water, everyone smokes cigarettes. Still there is a man,
there is a man with girls.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I just got to try and crank up this trailer. Now,
I've never seen water World. Who is that starring? Given
cost cos I think cost of self under it? Oh really,
it's the didn't cost of pay for it?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Starring Dennis Copper. It's Copper over acting.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Here it is here, it is you know, the.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Polar ice caps have melted and the earth liars beanies.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
Of watery grave voice, I Love's voice.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Those who survived have adapted to a new world. What
did you see out there in the fifteen winners? Such
as an ends and ends? All this water that's going
the wrong person.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Pure and there all right, So it's like a whole
new society that's kind of based off a lake in.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
The whole world's underwater. The whole world they're looking for land.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah, because I still farther than most of dreams. Okay,
he's good on a he's good on a grinder because
it's a catamaran that he's operating, isn't.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It you jump on grinder?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah? Why would you be sailing though to nowhere? That's
what I don't understand. Why sail fast in a world
surrounded by water? Just f w would you need to
just like, where are you going?
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Mate?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
You're on a land. I see you get in your
car and drive around.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yes, but it's different. I mean, why are you trying
to grind away and try and like trim the sailor around?
Speaker 2 (08:08):
You've had a match on grinder and you need to
sail over and make love to some guy on the
back of at the back of a schooner.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Float around your mup at customer.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Mate, there's talking kids once saying we know where we're going,
but we don't know where we've been, and we know
we were no one, but we don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
What we've saying exactly, mash good point. Have you seen
the movie The Postman?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
The Postman?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
This was another This was another situation where Kevin Costler
was going quite well in his career and he decided
to make a nineteen ninety seven, a really fucking long movie,
apocalyptic movie about a guy trying to get the post
service back together. It's got Tom Pity in it, and
he goes up to Tom. Tom Pitty's like comes across
them and like an apocalyptic vista and he goes didn't
news to be someone once and Tom Pitty is playing
(08:51):
Tom Pitty like after the Apocalypse, which I thought was
kind of interesting idea that Tom Petty might survive the
apocalypse and he's just walking around but ain't no one
buying no CDs and he'd done no one done, gotten
on done Spotify after the Apocalypse, so.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
He goes maybe maybe a wise but doesn't matter now,
does it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
That's a great wow. That was a good performance from
you as well. It was a great moment in the film. Obviously,
one of.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
My best mates's dads directed him in a number of movies,
including Thirteen Days, which was a very good movie, Kevin
costa movie good mates with my friend's dad.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
So he's been pumping out the flax old Keivo. What
does he called Cozi? What's his nickname, keiv cause.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
They call him the costco cool, Cozy, Cozy, Cozimoto. I
think they call him Cozimototo. So yeah, Currently he's got
two movies out, a really long movie called Horizon Chapter
one and American Saga, which is three hours and one
minutes long, and now Horizon Chapter two, which is another
(09:52):
really boring in American Saga Chapter two which is three
hours and ten minutes long, so he's managed to make
six hours of absolutely boring. He loves to make a
boring fucking movie.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Ship any reason why he's running a horrific color, he's
running a he's running a bloody potato top pie haircut.
Why are you running that horrific rince? It's terrible, It
looks terrible. Christine who's his spouse? Oh, a couple of
David ni is here? God for the goodness. All right,
let's take a break and be back with you again.
(10:24):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Come on, come on there, David, Nika, come on, come on, then,
come on and come on.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Here's a here's a seat for you and a microphone.
There's some headphones we with. This is our new policy, David.
We we do this but live. We show the workings,
you know, so people can see right and behind the
right and behind the curtain, behind the curtains, sew and everything.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, that's what it's like a little bit when someone
arrives into the podcast and finds the headphones and mike.
It's exciting stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Yeah, which is it would be a little bit like
following you back stage. I imagined before about and then
having cameras in your changing ship before the bout, which
is actually what happens. It is.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm looking forward to it. But
it's yeah, this this media, this media stuff is hard work.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I don't know how you guys do it.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You guys are you guys are.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Distance athletes, man, although I've seen you guys on your
e bikes.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, blood, we need to talk about that taking shortcuts, man,
We need to talk about that. Because the comment that
you made around Matt's e bike, where you see that's
exactly the type of bike that I suspected that you
would ride. And it's an orange, humiliating orange bike wheels.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah, it's like the kind of thing like a clown
would ride around a circus and you're like, yeah, that
suits you, man, Yeah, a clown I'd watch though, Yeah,
yeah made. I took it as a huge complement.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I had to.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I had a choice. I could have take it two
ways that I chose to take it as a huge compliment.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Yeah, but you're right, that's I imagine that you're doing
a bit of media at the moment, and yeah, that's
but that's essentially what we do. But we don't have
to fight people like we don't have to face people
in the ring and get beaten up or or not
that you've been beaten up, but you know have the
threat of being beaten up at least.
Speaker 6 (12:21):
It's a very primal sport man. Yeah, but yeah, this
this circus is completely different.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, but the fight's on September fourteenth. So has this
all this going around? Talking to you? I saw you
on the Gender podcast with my Nice Stewart. Is this
rocking around? Is that eating into your training.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
A little bit? A little bit?
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Like I've got a twelve hour day today.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
I've never worked a twelve hour day in my life,
so this this close to a fight. I don't really
want to be doing this much, you know, karting around
town and stuff. And obviously like you have to do it.
Like we've got really really valuable sponsors that that deserve everything.
But this is like at this point in the and
(13:07):
like I'm finished with camp now, I'm like trying to
hone in, you know, and I'm trying to drop weight
as well. There's there's a yeah, there's a there's a
there's a fine balance, and I'm just kind of having
to balance that myself because when I'm at home, I
don't talk to anyone. I talk to my chickens more
than I talk to anyone, if you know what I mean.
I've got I've got four chickens. I spend as much
time with them as I spend with anybody else. Really Yeah, yeah,
(13:32):
well why is that because I because I live in
a small country town. Now I've got I've got my
my partner, I've got my coach. Those are the probably
probably the only two people I talked to more than
my chickens.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Wow, but you seem very comfortable, and they're at home
and interviews though saved up some words.
Speaker 6 (13:48):
Listen, man, I'm a professional.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You do what you got to do, what I do
what I got.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
To do professional. So how how much weight do you
have to drop? And why do you have to drop weight?
Speaker 6 (13:59):
I'm pretty close. I'm pretty close to my my my
goal weight, which is what two hundred pounds, which works
out to be about ninety point seven kilos.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Gesus gesz your ninety you're nearly ninety cogs.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah, yeah, I'm shredded right now.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
I'm shredded.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Yeah, okay, but yeah, it's that natural energy man Manuka
doctor yea, honestly, like that's been a game changer. And
a lifesaver through this camp. I got sinusitis a couple
of weeks ago, and I was I was doing those
those sinus forsance you know, and oh man, so satisfying,
(14:36):
but like I was, yeah, I was on the cusp
of getting pretty ill and you get that. What's the
mg O rating. I've never really quite understood it, but
it's like it's like the anti bacterial products that you
get that can only be found in Manuka honey, chuck
a spoonful of that in.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, because you've gotta be freaking careful what you take.
You can't just be going down to the chemist werehouse
trying a bunch of stuff down, because you turn out
that creates something in your system that's then gets you
ruled out.
Speaker 6 (15:05):
I think that, Yeah, I think there's some funky stuff
out there, like, yeah, you can get trace elements and stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, like sometimes I don't know, like like they mix
it all up in the same tubs and so you
can get trace elements.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
But yeah, well yeah, if if a company that makes
paracetamol also makes you know, some heavy painkillers or stimulants,
there can be trace elements.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
So yeah, you know, with Blake caperello that you were
going to fight, and then he gets he tests his positive.
That's kind of annoying for you because you've done nothing wrong,
Like you would you would you would you be good
to go? Go Like, mate, you've taken these but I'm
good to go.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
You know that's your Yeah, that was that was That.
Speaker 6 (15:45):
Was what we were trying to do, was trying to
swoop it under the rug because that was still the
fight that we wanted. He was still the name that
we wanted. We wanted his scalp, if you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
We wanted to.
Speaker 6 (15:57):
You know, he was he was out, he was the
top of our list, and so a bit of exogynist
testosterone it's like it's not gonna yeah, it's not gonna
stop me.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah. So you get penalized in a way because he's
he's cocked it up.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:12):
Well, I ended up we ended up scrambling around trying
to find another another opponent. You know, I was, I
was driving into Brisbane for sparring and then in like
the guy that we were going to spa were like,
actually we might need to fight this guy, Like this
might this guy might be the only option for us.
To to fight. So we ended up driving to Brisbane
for no reason. And it's just a it's just a
(16:33):
it's a it's a bit of a cockup, but not
our cockup.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Got people that are looking after for you. Surely you
don't have to worry about any of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 6 (16:42):
My coach, nol Thornberry, doubles as a manager and triples
as a promoter, so he does a lot of leg
work and it's not really fair on him. It's not
fair on my poor partner because like, I'm such bad
company when I'm in training camp.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
But as the chickens, okay.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
The chicken though, no that they're probably they get the
best version of all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
They are.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
They are my they are my piece. You know, that's
so funny to say that chickens.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
I've seen a couple of videos. They're very funny. So
the guy that you are going to be fighting now,
Tommy Carpentcy, he's from the States. He thirty eight, is
a South poor You're a South Paw too, aren't you.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I switch it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like I've found a I've found
a niche. I found I found something that works against
other South palls, and it's just basically like you can't
beat them, join them. Okay, it just fun.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
But he's six foot and he has a reach of
one hundred and eighty five centimeters seventy three and just
what's your reach?
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Mind's about two meters, so it's a six seven six eight.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, So that's so, so you're just gonna going to
keep them at big and jab them.
Speaker 6 (17:55):
I'm going to mall this. Oh yeah, yeah, man, I will,
I'll do what's necessary. But I I he's he's he's
a very very competent fighter. He's fought the best, he's
beaten the best. He's so he actually beat my favorite
boxer at the time about nine years ago. He was
a former world champion, and so he kind of succeeded
(18:20):
where Blake Caparello failed at the top level. So he's
he's very credible, he's tough. I just hope he turns
up to fight, man, because I want to put on
a huge show, and we've got an awesome undercard that
you know deserves a headline act, you know, So I
want to I want to put on a spectacle. I
(18:40):
want to go through the gears. I want people to
see what I've been working on because I've been training
really really hard. It would it would be a shame
not to get, you know, the opportunity to show everybody
what I can do man like and that that's why
I want to keep increasing my my like competency of
my oponents, because that's how you guys will see the
(19:02):
best version of myself and hopefully we can come back
before the end of the year and do it again.
But I'm not looking too far in.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
So you're saying the fight that's coming up, So in September,
what is it, fourteen beforeteen before the end of the year.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
I want to fight twice twice before the end. I think.
I think I've only fought once this year, which is
for where I'm at in my career, Like I need activity.
I need to It's like it's like if they're all blacks,
I think played a couple of times a year, like
they'd be rubbish.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Right, Well, that's interesting with boxing, A it's so hard
to get actual fights up, isn't it, Because people don't
want to fight in case it messes their record app
So it's a different sport than other sports in that regard.
You know, it's not not you know, not every weekend.
Obviously that would be rough, but well it'd.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
Be great, it'd be great if you could, like you
said that, there aren't there aren't where the adversaries on
every every every street corner.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
So you've got to organize the bit too, for your management,
your promoters, get to your et cetera. You know, so
much to organize. So you're so you've had nine professional
fights so far, obviously nine and eight from knockout. That
doesn't use that feels like that's quite a few because
it doesn't feel that long ago that you were boxing
(20:18):
in the Olympics.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, yeah, well time fliers a but yeah, I'm nine
and oh was a pro now, I had ninety eight
amateur fights. My last time fighting in New Zealand was
my pro deboo, so three and a half years ago.
This is actually the first card that design will be
the streaming platform. So they are the largest global online
platform for boxing. So it's a it's a it's an app,
(20:42):
it's all digital. I watch it at home on my phone,
so it's a it's an easy download and this is
basically a new chapter of fight sports in New Zealand.
So that they've they've moved into Australia and I get
to spearhead this event, which is unreal cool.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I've been on Designed for the longest time because I
watched my NFL there, But until your fight came out,
I didn't know that that's what it was. I was
calling at d das in z daz in. But then
I felt like an idiot yesterday when I found out
you were doing an interviewing You're calling it design, I was,
of course, it's the fucking design.
Speaker 6 (21:16):
I did the same, yeah dot Com, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Of course it's designed.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
So after a fight, I've always wondered about this. Obviously,
the build up to the fight. The day must be
an interesting thing because oftentimes the fights, I don't know
when this is. It's probably at nighttime, seven o'clock at
night or something. It's like, it must be a weird
day for you because you must be making sure that
you have a good night's sleep the night before. Then
you've got all day, like the nerves or the excitement
(21:45):
must must be quite intense. And then after the fight,
what happens? What do you do after the what do
you do after after you've had a fight.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Well, this is my first time as the headline act.
So I didn't realize, but I'm not going to be
fighting before eleven pmheah, yeah, so it's gonna be a
late night and then there's a press conference after the fight.
There's probably drug testing after the fight. I'm probably not
gonna get out of you until about one thirty am.
I'm trying to sleep and you guys are actually getting
(22:14):
in the way of myself.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, what you got to do is run
the press conference and get all us muppets to come
to you. Yeah, you do a big press conference. Even
we sit down, we put up a hands, ask the questions,
and you just ignore us and go home quickly.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah. But if you said like you, and I'm backing you,
I think you will win. And I when you went
about like that, what do you plan on going and
doing anything afterwards? I mean, do you feel like doing
anything afterwards?
Speaker 6 (22:43):
Hard to say, Like I said, this is this is
kind of unfamiliar, unfamiliar territory for me. I haven't done
a main event for a long time, you know, like
I might have done one in the amateurs, but I'd
like to go out and hang out with my friends
and stuff. I've got a I've got like six tables
with my friends, all in Nosebleeds' not really nose bleeds,
(23:04):
it's all black tied. But I've got heaps of heaps
of friends coming along, so they'll all be smashed.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
By the time.
Speaker 6 (23:12):
I probably won't want to deal with them.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Also, you've been training, you would have been training, and
I imagine during training you're probably not drinking. I don't
know if you drink anyway, or if that's something that
you do.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
I don't think I could handle my drink right now.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What happens after you after you've boxed? Do you get
on the booze or do you do you wait for
a couple of days.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think we're gonna I think
we're gonna go out and like hire a cafe the
next morning. So get to catch up with everybody then,
because I'm going to be smashed. Like you said, it's
a big, long day. Yeah, you want to get a
good night's sleep, but I never sleep well the day
before a fight.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
It's the hardest thing to do. Yeah, yeah, too excited.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Because you're going through and your head all the scenarios
that might happen. I imagine you're so focused on your
opponent and what you're going to do to your opponent
and your tactics and all that sort of stuff that
must a lot going on the here.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's it's it's one of the most
chaotic sports. The whole idea of of like combat is
taking someone else's offense away from them and like trying
to trying to stop them from doing what they want
to do, and meanwhile they're trying to do the same
to you. So it's it's like you never know what
you're going to get in the ring. That's what's the
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Mike Tyson quote. Everybody has a plan until they get
punched in the face hereah, and like that's never comfortable.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
No, have you ever had Have you had?
Speaker 2 (24:30):
How many fights have you had where the person's turn
up and giving you exactly what you expected?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
There have been a few, There have been a few,
But like say, I've been I've been low blowed off,
been head, but I've been bitten twice twice.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
It was actually the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games in twenty eighteen.
I got bitten on the chest and had to be
like seen by our medical stuff because they'd broken the
skin and they were asking if I'd asking if I've
been Yeah, check for tepness and his mouth guard before
he does that. No, no, no, he got it.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
He just he just got a good yeahs because the
mouth's a mouth guard just the top of the bottom. Yeah, yeah,
at the top the top. Yeah. Okay.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
So another one was at the Olympics. I just just
remembered he went for the full Mike Tyson went for yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
My netflex has helped me out there.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So is there just a person losing their freaking mind
or is it a strategy that they've got away with
and you know, coming up because it seems like thing,
you're gonna get it something.
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Again. It's like same as this this Blake Caparella thing.
It's like almost flattering. It's like, okay, so you got nothing, Yeah,
you've got nothing. Yeah, and so so you obviously go
using another route, you know, yeah, to try to get
to it because where you need to go.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
There's one school of thinking with the Evander Hollyfield Mike
Tyson thing where Evander was just putting his head right
in Mike Tyson's face. But then I saw an interview
with Mike Tyson and who he went just belay with
better than me. Yeah, yeah, and that was really shocking
to him because no one had been better than him before,
and he was like, what am I? What am I
supposed to do here?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
You don't know how to react? Yeah, yeah, it never
never felt that, never felt that fear of losing before.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yeah, the ring.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, he was like in terms of getting punched in
the face, and I've never been punched in the face,
I got to say, which is very very punched in
the face, but like the nose can't be that can't
be much fun getting punched in the nose. That would
get the eyes going.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
Yeah, I've actually I had like, like I said, I
had the sinucidis and my nose is bleeding quite a lot.
So I've been like choking on my own blood. This
this camp, which is like never fun, but it's come
right now, just the last last couple of weeks. But
you know what's funny is I have no bone in
my nose. This is from Breakable, Breakable. I am so blessed. Yeah, yeah,
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there's just no bone. I think it's like I'm a
quarter yougan, and I feel like there's like it's a
structural thing.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I don't know cardiloge African African notes, it's an advantage.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Goodness, sweet, You've got a nose though, like.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Shap it's not flopping down your face, it's sitting up
like a nose structural support.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's like do you have a little.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Really just collapses up something.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Brilliant. So you've never had a broken nose, not that
I know of. You can't break a nose if it
doesn't exist.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
How good.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
You don't mind being of the nose.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
That's actually not I'd prefer Nazis.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I don't know my nose. I just I'm just a
massive target. People are all three of us just go
straight for.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Our like cartlage, right to the very fucking tip.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
I truly believe that there are like nerve endings and
you know that, say, if you've never been punched it before,
I've never even been like bopped there before. Yeah, your
eyes just go like, yeah, mine did that and it
doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
I think I've like I think I've killed some nerve
endings or something.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Okay, yeah, I mean I guess maybe you don't go
into the same panic mode, right, Yeah, I mean, is
this something that you have to not be scared to
be hit to box. You know, there's a bit of.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
That, Like there was a there was a there was
kind of a switch where I realized, like when I
if I was taking a punch like mid mid face,
being like squished up, I'm already thinking about getting one back,
you know.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
So yeah, right, so that's a moment. I guess when
you're at that moment, they're open yeah yeah, counter punch
yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And like.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
A lot of the time, say I'm trying to ride
with a shot, I might see it at the last second.
So if I can take some of the weight off
a punch, which is like literally at my face, I'm
already thinking about when they bring their hand back, there's
an opportunity in the window to wow, jump in.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
There's that split. It's real quick.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So do you actually have the thought or do you
react before you have the thought? Do you think you
think gap or do you just mostly instinctive instinct of
you like you're already yeah shit, yeah yeah, that's the
flow state, man.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah yeah, but that also just you've just had a
lot of fights in your life, so you you know
what to look out for, and as well you must
know as well just a shoulder movement must signal to
you that someone's about just a tiny little movement and
the shoulder that you must look out for.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Yeah, yeah, I think I think a lot of it
becomes like almost muscle memory or like I've I've been
playfighting with my brother and my brother's friends since i
was like a little kid, So you kind of get
you kind of understand who the body works.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Yeah, there's a rhythm.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And so say if I'm if I'm in a clinch
with someone and I've got my hands like outside their
elbows and I feel one of their elbows move, I
know I can either move away or I can or
step in closer. Because you know that there's there's unlimited,
ah possibilities that could happen.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
Yeah, whereas I just stand there and just take the
blow and that company.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
That's that's a that's a technique, that's drop and cry, drop,
that'll get you out of trouble.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Doing Mark Watson to pummeled in the back of the head,
that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
What are you walking out wearing, David? If you don't
want me ask you, Jerry, but during O this morning,
we're talking about before you came in, Bro, we're talking
about you often walk out and what looks like kind
of some kind of Roman inspired cat when you walk
out for a fight. Is that is that first of all?
Is that what it is? And is that what you're
going for? Some kind of viberand that because I've always
thought you looked incredible whenever you walk out for a fight.
Speaker 6 (30:44):
I've done I've done some pretty fun ones, but I'm
kind of getting away from that. I'm going to start.
This is like a new chapter. And I've always kind
of based my themes around superheroes and being the good
guy and being the nice guy. I am the nice guy,
so you're an I am. Yeah. So the next character
I'm going to create is Dave, you know, So I'm
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going to become my own, my own, my own entity.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
To me though, I mean, I think you still you've
always been your own, your own thing. But that's interesting
that you sort of thought of yourself or thought that
you had to create a character around it. That's quite fascinating.
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, yeah, I like, I don't. It was just it
was just a way to keep it interesting for myself sometimes.
But I've always wanted to be you know, I grew
up with you know, Disney and all these like superhero
characters and it's like you can take inspiration from them.
You know, it's a it was I imagine it's just
(31:45):
about every generation in the last hundred years. You know,
You've got your idols, and you've got people that you
look up to, characters that.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
You look up to.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
And now now I'm like I said, I'm headlining this card.
I'm I am myself. I've earned this, this this position
and this like that, this opportunity. I like that now
now I can be myself. Yeah, and fitting that it's
you know, back in my home country. You know, I
think it's just a really really nice way to kind
(32:13):
of reintroduce myself to the boxing fans and the and
the boxing casuals here and at all.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
He David, Well, thanks for coming in. Best of luck
with the fight Saturday the fourteenth, Timber live from the
Viaducts via ACT Events Center in Auckland. You're fighting Tommy
Carpency and you're the main event.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Live on his own.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It's a good spot. It's on design every day.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Let's do it. David Nica, thank you so much for
coming in.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Cheers, guys, good to see you again.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
And we're back boy, something for the mums.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
There for the mums.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
All right, what a great man. What a lovely fucking bloke. Yeah, lovely,
smart guy, great conversation, very squishy.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Nose, Yeah, great skin. Interestingly, look, I don't want to
objectify him, yeah, because yeah, he's really he's I don't
want to object he's a he's a great athlete. He's
very good at what he does. He's a very smart guy.
Lovely person, really really nice, friendly person, best of us yep,
always friendly and engages with you. No ego, no interestingly,
(33:19):
no ego. He looks as good in profile as he
does front on. There's very few people that are like that.
I was looking at his profile, yeah, right, while he
was here, and he's got he's got a great profile.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
You would have seen a lot of his profile because
he was mainly talking to me and answering my question.
I see it.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
But then when he look at when he when he
looks at it, like you look also very good from
front on, very blessed individual.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Yeah, man, he's genetically.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Yeah he looks from behind me.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Well, so I love that positivity that someone like he brings.
He's not nervous about the fight, he's like there, this
is proper athletes. He's there to showcase what he can do.
You know, that's such a different way to look at things.
You Know, they talk about in sport, the people that
want the ball and the people that don't want the ball.
You know, like if you shit at catching and cracket
you're like, I hope they don't hit it to me.
But the really great players, you know, like, I hope
it comes my way and so I can show how
(34:07):
good I am.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I found the character stuff really interesting. I thought that
was that was a part of boxing that I hadn't
really thought about it and I had left it to
the kind of subset of like the WWE almost in
the wrestling and stuff like that. But it's cool that
it's important to him as well. I liked hearing him
talk about the fact that he's worried about with things moving.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I hope An.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
America's Cup situation doesn't happen when we end up he
just ends up being too big and we just never
see him fight back in New Zealand again.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
I think so, I think that's going to happen.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, because he's also he can chat and he's got
a great look, but shit, he can box. Yeah, he
can box. Okay, here we go. Should we record this?
Should we record the promo? We can do it live.
We get a little behind the scenes and it's still a.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Little snuff behind the beef kittens.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Okay, we're happy with that wedding.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, it came out wrong.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
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Speaker 2 (34:58):
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Nika he's got a big fight this weekend and we
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Speaker 1 (35:24):
Are we happy with that photo that we did with
that was so much better?
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Well, I think Gary's Garius will enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
I sent it to the messo.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
As well. With our little promo things, You've just been
putting a little Meshi in the background. This is this
a little meshi popping.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Up Oliver And if I do you know my theory
on that as I make the artwork. If I ask
three questions today, I didn't. I don't think no, just
us one or two. So I won't be making the
outwork today.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
So you seen that picture of you, me, Jerry and
David Nika because she wanted to have a picture of
me to the messo. She'll be She'll be pinching out
to get to a loaf.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
What would be doing?
Speaker 3 (36:02):
She's oversetuated when it comes to you, there's too much
met heath. She doesn't have to be zooming in on
too many photos. I think she'll just be in a
good fem Look at what's in front of.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
All right? What I did notice is just outside there,
David Nika Boxer, very great specimen. He's just standing next
door to Todd Pixie Campbell our executive, no executive, another
great specimen of athleticism. Well he's a great man, Pixie Campbell.
But I'll tell you what, you couldn't have to differing
sort of.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
If he was on if he was on the card
on Saturday night, I wouldn't be throwing a lot of
money Pixy Campbell's ways. I reckon the odds for a
fight between them, then two would be would be the Internet,
the national debt of America.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Sorry, it's like Pixie Campbell has just become victim of
a drive by absat.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
A lot of time for Cambell. I love Cambe, right,
but I just saw him standing beside. It was like, Wow,
there's a real contrast there isn't there. He's a real
game of two hearts that one.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
He's copped a bit of a spray there. All right,
I go, okay, then you've seem busy bloody. Let you
go Jesus Christ. All right, I've got things to do.
I can't be just standing around here, so deserve thats
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