Rod and Greg Show - Greg flying Solo; Congressman Burgess Owens; John Nantz on How RFK Found MAGA Common Ground - Rod Arquette Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And rod he just he got a little under the weather.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
You know.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I get to tell you something. Every time this man
goes on vacation. I don't know what he does on vacation.
I don't know what establishments he frequents, but he always
comes back sick. I don't know what goes on. I
don't know what happened, but she whizz. So he's feel
a little under the weather. So he's not with us today.
But we we talked about this show today. We put
some really good things together and we got a lot

(00:25):
to go over. Wish rod Well, it'll be hit and miss.
We might actually have, you know, the Labor Day weekend
starts to hear at can r S on Friday. We
might might be airing at Jesse Kelly Show tomorrow, depending
on how Rodney feels Robert. Anyway, Well, we'll keep you updated,
We'll keep you We'll keep you posting all that, folks.

(00:47):
Today's show is we're going to touch on a lot
of different issues. We've got issues with with Kamala Harris
and her comfort pet Tim Walls at her interview. We're
going to talk about that some questions I think that
need to be asked that we know that Dana Bash.
We'll not ask from CNN, but we're going to ask
him out loud, just to put out there in the universe.
Maybe they maybe they kid asked. We're going to speak

(01:07):
with Sean Carney. He is with forty Days for Life.
He's a CEO and president. We've had him on the
show before Wicked Smart. We're going to talk to him
about all of the liar liar, pants on fire lies
that Kamala Harris says and talks about when she talks
about so called reproductive rights. But we're talking about abortion,
all the different things that she has said that doesn't

(01:29):
you know, doesn't carry that doesn't stand the test of time,
if you know what I mean. Doctor Congressman Burgess Owens
our very own congressman. He's been around this country stumping, helping,
campaigning for colleagues and good candidates, and he has an
event tonight in Riverton. We'll speak with him about that.
We'll go over some of the local news. I've got

(01:50):
a bone to pick with the local media here with
a conservative lawmaker that seems to be one of their
favorite just targets, I would say, And I'll get into
that and this story that came out last night and
why I think it is laughable that they even make
it a story. But we'll get into that, and then
we'll also talk We're going to get into issues about parents.

(02:11):
It's back to school right now, right our kids are
all going back to school. We're gonna speak with Christine
Cook Fairbanks from the Sutherland Institute has a great report
on parental engagement in our public schools and how do
we get to our parents, how his parents do we
get more engaged in the curriculum, understanding what our kids
are being taught, how do we get to know the
teachers better? A lot of good information coming there. And

(02:34):
ultimately we're going to speak with retired FBI agent and
now calmness for town Hall, John Nance about RFK boy.
I tell you I've got some clips here for you
today about poor RFK Junior. This man is making some
very difficult decisions in his life. I am sure he
did not believe he would ever be aligning with a
Republican or Donald Trump in this presidential campaign. He was

(02:56):
pleading with his party, the Democrats, that Joe Biden would
not carry the day. He was not going to win prevail.
He was not mentally able to do it. They ignored him,
they shoved him out of that race. He ran as
an independent, and ultimately they have thwarted his independent run
as well. And he finds himself as a team of
rivals with President Trump and he's just getting He's getting

(03:19):
attacked from his family, he's getting attacked from this media
and this raging cage and James Carville, if you remember
him from the Bill Clinton days. Boy, that guy gets
under my skin sometimes. And I'm going to play a
clip from him and and how he's I think, shamelessly
attacking RFK. And then there's a pretty good retort that
comes with that. So we got we got a power

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pack show for you today, a lot to go over.
I will say this, there is no amount of irony
that one of the biggest reasons why RFK Junior suspended
his presidential campaign is that these Democrats have been going
into every state he's on the ballot trying to remove
him from the ballot. They questioned his residency in New York,

(04:02):
in the state of New York, which you really can't question,
I mean by ways of defining your residency. He qualified,
does qualify, And somehow they got a judge to remove
him from the ballot, and they were just plotting along,
plotting along, taking him off the ballot, making sure he
didn't mess with Biden's count, you know, vote count with Democrats,
or young people or concerned moms about the health of

(04:25):
their children, things that were really that RFK Junior is
really keyed in on in this campaign, and he was
seeing a good a percentage. It was as high as
twenty percent at one point, but he was double digits
for a good while. Well, they can't have that, so
they just keep taking him off the ballot over and
over and over again. And then he announces that he's

(04:45):
going to suspend that campaign. He's going to stay on
the ballot in states like Utah where he's qualified. We've
had him on as a guest on the program here.
He's going to stay on the ballot in states like ours.
But in the battleground states he wanted to remove his
name it be a choice between Donald Trump and Joe
Biden because he did not want to play the spoiler. Well, instantly,

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the Democrats went to work, and in Michigan and in
Wisconsin they have argued for and have prevailed in now
keeping RFK Junior on the ballot. So remember, so let's
keep the track here, let's keep score. They wanted him
off the ballot everywhere, Okay, even states like New York
that are blue. They want him off the ballot. They

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don't want they just didn't. First, they didn't want him
in a primary. They made sure there was no primary
on the Democrats side. He went independent. They went and
attacked his eligibility to be a candidate in every state
he's on the ballot. They were having success getting him
off the ballot. As soon as he suspends that campaign,
they then argue that he should his name should not
be removed in states like Michigan and Wisconsin and at

(05:51):
state and so his name has the secretary of state
and I think Michigan has announced I think Alson was
they'reing to leave his name on the ballot. Is there
any moment where we just look at this and say,
this is electioneering, This is putting your thut This is
not a battle of ideas that are going on with
these Democrats. This is not if you take the conduct

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of the Democrats and what they have done to RFK
Junior in this election to try and silence him, to
have no primary whatsoever to install a replacement for Joe Biden,
Kamala Harris, with not a single vote having gone her way.
And then you hear recently from Mark Zuckerberg from Facebook

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where he admits to Congress that he was unduly pressured
by the Biden administration to censor Facebook Meta their social
media platforms and that he regrets it and that he
will he will not allow those things to happen going forward.
And when he says that they pressured him, remember let's

(06:55):
go back to October when the New York Post broke
the Hunter Biden laptops. A lot of people want to say, well,
that's just his son. He was a bit of a
you know he then and maybe a criminal, But that's
not Joe Biden. No on that laptop. As was being
discussed by former Hunter Biden business partners Bob Alinsky others,

(07:17):
there is a connection to what Hunter Biden was doing
by hook and crook, by who he was representing foreign countries,
everything else, his cuts for certain deals, how his father
was facilitating those those deals, those meetings, and the cut
that the big guy as they called them, would get.
That information's on that laptop. So this isn't This wasn't

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just about Hunter Biden and how that would splash on
a Joe Biden candidacy in October. This had a lot.
This said, this was relevant information, and the New York Post,
the oldest newspaper in the United States of America, was
shut down. Fifty one intelligence officials or former intelligence officials.
Le Panetta being one of them, who spoke at the

(08:01):
Democrat National Convention said wrote jointly wrote a letter telling
America that they that this Hunter Biden laptop is fiction,
that it has all the hallmarks of Russian disinformation. Well,
we fast forward. They knew as early as twenty nineteen
that that thing was real. They had possession of that
laptop in twenty nineteen, the FBI I'm talking about, they

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knew it was real. And fifty one. By the way,
one of those fifty one signers, I believe is Dana
Bash's husband. So if you're if you're wondering, you know
where what cloth the Bash families cut from, that's you know,
just know that her husband is one of those former
intelligence officers that said that that Hunter Biden laptop was

(08:44):
Russian disinformation. So when we come back after this break,
I got a couple of clips I want to I
want to share with you. But then we're also going
to speak with Sean Carney from Forty Days for Life.
He's the president and CEO. You're gonna want to hear
what he has to say. He's calling out Kamla in
very important ways that you'll want to take note of.
So you want to hang on through the break. You're

(09:06):
listening to the Rod and Greg Show here on Talk
Radio one oh five nine Canterus. Before I go to
this interview, by the way, taped earlier this week with
Rod and myself, so you'll hear Rod in this interview
when we do it. But before we do this, I'm
just on tilt about this James Carvel. I cannot stand
this raging cajun. He was annoying in nineteen ninety two, okay,

(09:27):
and it hasn't gotten better. He's getting older, he's getting
I think, of all the people to be throwing rocks
about who's crazy and who has mental health issues, this
is the last guy that should be saying it. But
listen to what James Carvil says about RFK Junior. It's
pretty it's as low ball I think as you get.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Yeah, I really feel sharp. But the Kennedy family, because
I'm will remind him. You can pick your friends, you
can't pick your relatives. And if ivery Kennedy lived in
a little Humanian country, they would have him in a
in a nice rubber room. And you know, three hats
in the cotton, take care of this guy. He's no
business being out of the street, mixing and mingling with people.
But this is where we are in this country. We

(10:11):
have a mental health.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
Crist Yeah, three hots and a cot. We have a
mental I mean he should be in a rubber room.
I'll tell you again if you listen, the one thing
you can say about RFK is he's no dummy. His
his uh his former run inmate uh Shanahan. She was
on Jesse Waters. Let me go to her, e Ray
if you can acute it. Let's listen to what she

(10:33):
had to say in response to the RFK junior Uh
suffers from mental health issues and should be in a
rubber room. What's what does she sad to say about that?

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Who really has the mental health crisis?

Speaker 5 (10:45):
And this is crazy.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Talk, this is wild.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
I'm asking myself what happened to the party of when
they go low, we go high because right now they're
just going lower and lower and lower, and I'm shocked,
I'm saddened. I'm worried for them. Honestly, they've lost their soul,
They've lost their direction.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Now you got to understand, you got to know the
background of what's her first name is it? Nicole? Now,
Nicole Shanahan, his running mate. She came from the Silicon slup.
She's a tech executive. And when he picked her, a
lot of people said, well, she's really liberal, Like she's not.
You know, he's kind of been more about a lot
of issues that have been more libertarian or younger people

(11:30):
are really gravitating to concern mothers about the health of children.
She seems she seemed to be to be out there,
but I'm telling you what she is witnessing with this
totalient totalitarianism with the Democrat Party. She's just she is right.
They have lost their soul, they really have. So, without
further ado, I had to play that for you first.
But let's get to this. Let's let's have a conversation

(11:52):
here with Sean Karney with President CEO forty Days for Life.
Mister Carney, thank you for joining us on the program. Boy,
you write an article here. Kamala Harris has said some
real whopper. She's got a lot of eyes liar, liar,
pants on fire about her positions on abortion. Maybe you
can help walk us through some of this.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
Yeah, well it's risky. You know, she's doing something nobody
pro life or pro choice has ever done, which is
make abortion the number one issue, or the culture war
for that matter. Americans typically don't like that when that's
the number one issue for better for worse. We don't
like the culture war being at the top of the ticket.
But that's what they're running on, and I think it's risky.

(12:38):
Number one has ever been done before. Number two abortion
is depressing for most people that even support it. So
it's not really the America's best days are ahead of us.
It's kind of a position built on fear, like they're
trying to take away your right to choose and I'm
going to restore it. And I just don't think that's
the number one issue for people.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Sean, you taught me this last time you were on
the program. The question isn't how she frames it. The
question is as you framed it. Under what circumstances would
you think it's appropriate that abortion take place and put
the onus on them to describe that in a campaign
where it's all joy and no substance. Will she ever
be asked the circumstances and what she feels it's appropriate

(13:22):
to have an abortion.

Speaker 7 (13:24):
Yeah, I think there's a fun way to do that too,
because she was a prosecutor, and they're always saying, are
you going to lock women up? You know who have
an abortion? And we need to ask her, would she
have prosecuted Kermit Gosnell, the abortionists in Philadelphia that the
babies were born alive and he cut their heads off
eight times? Would she have prosecuted him? That's a yes
or no question, And get her to say that she

(13:46):
would prosecute an abortion ast who breaks the laws. So,
you know, there's a lot of ways that I don't
think Trump's running that grade of a campaign. Supposedly supposed
to get better next week. I don't know what happens
at Labor Day, but something's going to.

Speaker 8 (13:59):
Happen, I guess.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
But there are so many ways to attack her. She
is very smart for not doing media interviews. I just
don't think everybody's outraged that she's not talking to the media.
But I don't think they're outraged to the point.

Speaker 8 (14:13):
They're not going to vote for Sean.

Speaker 9 (14:15):
You mentioned that this is a difficult subject for a
lot of people to talk about, but boy, they sure
have liked to play on the horror stories, don't they?
About what has happened to a mother, what has happened
to a child, what's happened to a family because of
abortion or because not being allowed to abort a child.
I mean, they really like to play on the fears,
do they not? And she is especially good at it.

Speaker 7 (14:36):
Yeah, I mean abortion is built on fear, it's built
on violence. It's a very violent, brutal act. You know,
you're not supposed to survive an abortion. And that's another
thing I think it would be wise is to have
some of these abortion survivors speak. You know, they survived
the abortion, which you're not supposed to do. It doesn't
tear to heal, it tears to kill. And and you know,

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we have a candidate for the first time ever that
wants zero restrictions on this already highly unregulated surgery. And look,
it's twenty twenty four. We can say abortion kills the baby,
that's the point. Yet at the same time, we have
Scott Peterson on death row for second degree murder of
his unborn child. Connor, you know, it's just we live

(15:22):
in this hypocrisy in our country and they're unwilling to
acknowledge any of the scientific or biological realities of the
unborn child.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Test out my theory, Sean, I don't believe that she's
being wise by avoiding being specific on issues. I think
she's losing. I think her internal polls show it. I
think that's why Carvel and Axel Roter are trying to
tamp down the enthusiasm that everyone thinks that she's got
this maid in the shade if she takes a position
on abortion that is closer to her base. Let me

(15:56):
just say this way. If she tried to change her
position on this and try to find some middle road,
well she does she risk losing her base. What happens
with a specifisty. My theory is if she is fundamentally
losing this race, she can't afford to take a position
for fear of who she would alienate. That are the
votes she's getting. Can she afford to take an issue

(16:16):
on abortion? Do you think.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
That's a very good theory.

Speaker 7 (16:20):
By the way, You're maybe right, because she needs to
be pulling six or seven ahead because Trump doesn't pull
well as we know. But no, she can't compromise at all.
It's her golden ticket and her mind and maybe in
reality we'll see, but she cannot compromise on abortion whatsoever.
They are now married to abortion at forty weeks and

(16:43):
denying health care to babies who survive abortion. So they're
now married to Frankenstein when it comes to the abortion issue, monsters,
and now they can't get out of it because what.

Speaker 10 (16:54):
Is she going to do?

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Compromise on that and talk about how she's going to
fix the border. I mean these other issues, the other
issues are so bad for her that she's stuck.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
Yes, yeah, I see that. I see that she those
people with that culture war being their first issue, which
i'd agree with you. I think it's a rare. I
don't think it's a smart play, and I think it's
one that we've not seen it with presidential candidates. But
for those that were, that is their main issue. If
she pivots away from this radical agenda, I don't think
those those voters who will actually show up, I don't

(17:26):
think they'll vote for Trump. But I don't think they vote.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
I think she's going to have low voter turnout as is.
I still think there's anomiosity about how she was sort
of crowned as queen of the Democrats. I think that
she's not likable. You can't switch that overnight with a convention.
You can talk about joy, but joy is something you
can see. She doesn't have it, and she's just a
dysfunctional person, a dysfunctional candidate. And so voter turnouts already

(17:52):
an issue, and that's that's a problem. And of course
what Trump has going for him is the bad economy
and the immigration crisis and the threat of a war.
Even the people that hate him would probably rather have
him than now on those issues.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Thank you, Sean, Thank you for your insight. We appreciate it.
We hope to have you back. Look, we have more
when we come back after the break. We gotta go
to the break right now, come back, we'll talk to
Congressman Burgess. Owens. You're gonna not want to miss the interview.
It's gonna be great. You're listening to Talk Radio one
oh five nine can Arrests and the Ron and Greg show.
Back after this. Congressman Burgess owns he's joining us now

(18:30):
in less than an hour. He's got an event in Riverton.
It's at the Riverton City Park. It's called the it's
called what the tailgate and celebrate event. So he'll beat
at that. But I got to tell you, Congressman, thank
you for joining us on the program. Isn't that nice
to come back to town and see your constituents and
press the flesh a little?

Speaker 11 (18:50):
And it's absolute bit more than that, Greg, because I
again for someone who's who's become a Utah and in the
last fein years, I can really appreciate the things we
do here that may take for granted, the way we
collaborate our strong values that we have been given to
our parents when to pass our kids.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
So I kind of see this.

Speaker 11 (19:08):
As an annual affair. The first of all, just bring
our party together across the board.

Speaker 8 (19:14):
I'd love to have it where our.

Speaker 11 (19:15):
Young people are coming out, our kids are coming out
and having a good time, they can be exposed to
what we do as politicians, as what we do is
engage engaged Americans. As a thank you for those volunteers
across the board. So it's really kind of a celebration
to a degree. But I want to make it so
much fun that everybody looks forward to across the board,
up and down the gladder in terms of folks that

(19:39):
are running for office and may be going to when
this case is going towards the general, they can all
come together and just celebrating being relavocate for this culture
we have.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
You know what, I was a public servant, these town
hall meetings, these events, I would have a lot of
familiar faces I would see were you know, you become
friends with the people that you represent, and it's good
to see them. But I know you're You've got such
a busy summer. You have been all over this country.
You've been stumping for good candidates, for colleagues in the House.
Rod's not joining us today. It doesn't feel well. So

(20:10):
I'm flying solo vergers by myselfporships. But what we both
wanted to ask you is what are you seeing out
there in the United States? Is you're visiting different communities,
different congressional districts to give us some feedback because we
know what's going on in Utah, but what's happening in
the rest of the country.

Speaker 11 (20:27):
I'll start up with saying this, Greg I've never been
more excited about where our country is than I am today.
I know it sounds kind of strange with all the
chaos and craziness, but what makes our countries it's so
unique is that once we the people start engaging ourselves,
no matter what's that hour on, we get things done.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
It's always been the.

Speaker 11 (20:45):
Case when IVER see these obstacles that come our way,
or surprise the task coming our way. Right now, every
place I go American to talk about the issues that
we want to get past. We're concerned about the border,
We're concerned about inflation. We want to make sure our
kids are growing up safely in our streets and not
one of our fitnel coming across the border. Those are
things that we all have in common now because we

(21:05):
do we're talking about solutions and what I see and
this is also here in Utah. People who are in
the past and on the sideline, you know, kind of
living their lives, doing their thing, and they're on their freedom bubble.
They're finally saying, you know what, I need to come
off the off the sidelines, cause I understand to.

Speaker 8 (21:19):
Be part of this the solution.

Speaker 11 (21:21):
So I think this year, all of us doing our
part like what you're doing now. Those folks will be
coming out this afternoon, those are running, those are knocking doors.
We're going to look back and say, twenty twenty four,
we were there when our country was about to go
over the edge, and we pulled ourselves back. And it's
going to be exciting for us because we're can tell
our grandkids and our great grandkids is unfortunate enough that
we will hear that at that moment because that's where

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we are now. We're deciding the fate of our nation.
Which way, what kind of country do.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
I give our kids?

Speaker 11 (21:48):
One that's based on American values, freedom, freedom, free market,
free expression, all the things we talk about in our constitution,
and the other side of it is markets base, everything
is against we believe in. So you look at the
two and we have this season to make. I have
the confidence that the American people are going to be
voting for what we've always leaved in the American way.

(22:08):
So I'm excited about where we are at now and
where we're going to be at twenty twenty five as
we kind of start getting out those back to those
things we all all.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Wanted to that we all see it as important in priorities.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
You know, I'm glad to hear that sense of urgency
that you're sensing and feeling as you're stumping and campaigning
around the country. You know, it's perilous times when RFK
Junior is supporting President Trump, putting the party and really
the nation's welfare and the people's welfare ahead of a
party or anything else. You see. Tulsea Gabbered this week
has made the same announcement that that is a sign

(22:42):
that we are not in good times and people are
coming together like teams of a team of rivals that
have been traditionally from other parties. Is there a common
you you rattled off a lot of our good kitchen
kitchen table issues. I think we're all feeling. But is
there could you point to a common denominator, one specific
thing that you you know that you've heard so many
times and you know you're going to hear in the

(23:03):
next event that you walk into.

Speaker 11 (23:06):
Well, you know, first of all, the reference team of rivals,
and I think the audience needs to understand that markle
book by about Lincoln of what he did to bring
people who would run against together because they had the
common goal and come and pause and that's where we
are now. You know, there's so many things that we've
experienced the last three or four years.

Speaker 8 (23:24):
There's mine.

Speaker 11 (23:25):
It's actually mind boggling to how it can be where
we are now as opposed to four years ago. And
we have to come to this conclusion that this has
to be on purpose. You do not open the border
the way we have opened the borders to see the
deaths of hundreds of thousands of other one hundred thousand Americans.
The issues we have now across the board with crime,
I mean you go through the litany, inflation, the wars

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around the world now, things that we have no control of,
but we have no respect also around the world. So
any area that we can look at that's important to us.
How we look at our tears and education. Education, we
have gone through learning loss like we never have these
for and it was on purpose we have. We had
the unions to decide that he did not want to
open up these schools and now our kids going to
pay the price of that. So the point is this,

(24:09):
because we have this common theme all of us. We
want our kids to grow up and be successful. We
want we want that to be our legacy. Every and
every party they are now coming together to say what
do we do to make this work? And that's what
I appreciate about Bob Kennedy. Uh, he's courageous. He's going
up against his own family, his own family, his own
own a former party, because he cares for our country more,

(24:32):
he cares for our kids more, and all of us
who feel that way, we're going to come together and
vote for the right person, which is those President Trump.
He's shown what can do, whether he likes the personality
or not. He's given us the best economy, the best opportunities,
and by the way, to have Black Americans and Hispanic
Americans because October seventh, Jewish Americans realizing this is the
way to go, and the Democratic Party is where we

(24:53):
need to be getting away from because they're not serving
ourans at all of this point here.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Here, and I'm so glad you're a strong voice those
sentiments that we're all feeling.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Look, these open borders, they have absolutely impacted public safety.
They've particularly impacted public safety here in Utah. We have
had the media report over time that there are buses
of people from Denver, which considers itself a sanctuary state
or a sanctuary city busing people to the illegal aliens
to Salt Lake City. There's a lot of I know

(25:25):
that law enforcement doesn't really know what's going on on
the ground. There's been a lot of concern. This is
an issue that you've taken up in Congress, and I'd
love for you to share with the listeners what you're
working on, because I think this is a pretty important
deal that you're doing well.

Speaker 11 (25:39):
First of all, and thanks for asking about that. This
is so important, Greg. Let's it's called the Score Act.
And I'm able to do things here in Utah because
we collaborate. The way we do the way we do
this is a result of mayors of commissioners, of our
governor across the board us trying to do our very
best to get first of all, what's going on. Well,
all of a sudden you find a few being dropped

(26:00):
off at the airport, do not know the language, being
dropped off from city halls, distress the city hall with
no income, no way, no nowhere to go, no phone numbers.
This is I'm gonna call.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
It what it is.

Speaker 11 (26:12):
It's pure evil to use people the ways that they're
being used to traffic across our country. So what's happening
is this, we have these sanctuary cities that by these
people come to their cities and then once they have
once they have overwhelmed their city because because the end
of the day, we have education, we have a hospitals,
we have a apartment units. All those things are being overwhelmed.
And once that happens to their city, what they do

(26:32):
is instead of cutting off the source or seeing we
can no longer want this to happen, they just put
them on the bus. They're using SEMA funds by the way,
FEMA funds are supposed to be used for food, water,
cow protection, health care. They're using that to give the
NGOs to put them on a bus, put them on
a plane, and shift them to non sanctuary cities like
Utah and Texas or whatever they might want to send them.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
So what is that?

Speaker 11 (26:54):
What comes out of this very simply, there's a few things.
The census is decided upon by the number of people
in a particular district course of state, not not whether
any illegals counsel act. So this process of census not
only does it change electoral college but also the college folks,
but also gives cities like this more another representation so

(27:15):
they can add other House representations because of the numbers
that go up. So you look at the longer, the
bigger picture, it's all about power, and they don't mind
bringing people in when the it's not going to serve
the concisions of their own and then shifting them out
to other places where they can turn red cities, red
states like ours, red districts like ours into blue. So

(27:38):
it's it's something that we're now dealing with. And what
we're saying is if this bill says you have to
notify the city and the state that the these folks
coming in, you have to have documentation to support that
they can, that they can be supported nonprofit of family
or sponsor. You have to be able to report this sema,
how much is going out and whether where this money

(27:58):
is being flood flown to and and then most important
is how much to Congress, how much it costs every quarter.
If they do not stick by these rules, and they
break the rules, then there will be data for addition
to using the schema SSP funds, so they'll be cut
out from pulling from the government anymore if they if

(28:18):
they do the wrong thing. So it's very strong accountability,
but most importantly, it says we do not like being used, abused,
and to guard it. We don't like what's happened to
our illegals coming in. Good people, some people, good folks
are just trying to have been drawn to our country.
They're not given them the funds and the things that
the ability to assimilate that they should and of course

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Americans will be heard by the whole process.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Congressman, I love this bill, the Score Act, Sanctuary City, Oversight,
Responsibility and Enforcement Act. Look, if they don't want to
put the Save Act inside the spending bill, they don't
want to have If the Democrats are stopping don't want
illegal aliens to vote in our elections, and are trying
to keep that bill out of the spending bill, this
is going to be a hard fight your Score Act.
But fight, fight, fight for it because it makes all

(29:05):
the sense in the world, and frankly, we need it.
And that is without regard to party affiliation. We just
need our laws followed. Okay, thank you for joining us
when we come back. Some final thoughts to close this
hour about this election about JD. Vance had some great
things to say about Kamala Harris in this election that

(29:26):
I want you to hear when we come back. You're
listening to the Rod and Greg Show. When we come back,
we're going to get into this KSL story. A local
news organization had had a very salacious headline about Islamophobia
and all the all that comes with it and a
lot of reaction, a lot of public outrage, on and
on and on. Well, it's just another, I think, another

(29:49):
effort to just keep dividing us as people and communities.
And we're going to just stare at that, at that
story and see if it's all that it's made up
to be. I argue it's not. So when we come
back after this break, I'm going to get into that story.
We're going to talk about it, and I actually we'll
get to your calls. I want to hear it from
you when we after we talk, after I talk about

(30:10):
this for a little bit, I want to hear what
your take. Is the smartest listening audience in the world.
So so I mentioned before the break that I wanted
to go over this article. This story comes out in
local news and I'll read you the headline. It felt
is lamophobic Utah Muslim speak out over post from Utah lawmaker.
Now the reason this story caught my eye is that

(30:32):
the video that was posted by Representative Trevor Lee. He's
a Republican state house member from Layton. I saw this
video myself, actually, I think it might have been Queen
Bee Christa that saw it. And it is a picture
of women and children that are a Muslim and they're
dressed in all black, and they have flags, and they're walking,
and it's in Taylorsville, and and you don't know, you

(30:54):
don't have any context, you don't know anything about it,
and and so you know, I just I just Taylor'sville.
That's not really where you see a lot of that.
That's that's a that's weird to see there in Taylorsville.
Is just kind of what my passing thought was. And
then I see this big elaborate article that there was.
By posting this, it created so much hate and so
much islamophobic of being feeling is lamophobic. This is what folks,

(31:23):
This is what I got to tell you. I think
that the way to cure a lot of this, let's
turn each other against each other and let's accuse. Let's
just wag our finger at everybody and tell everyone that
you're you're a phobic for this, and you're a phobic
for that, and we're all we're all good and you're
all bad, and Ksel is virtuous and you're not. Let's
just do this, Let's use a little empathy. Let's just

(31:44):
let's just turn the tables a little bit. And this
is what I mean by that. If I'm an American
and I'm living in a country, let's say a Muslim
country where the where there is a cultural divide, there
is a language bear, there is a religious divide. I'm
a Christian, I'm in a overwhelmingly a Muslim state. And

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if at that time, as an American, I was residing
in that country, and there were Americans and people sympathetic
to America that were protesting and saying death to that country,
going after people, and what I'm talking about here, the
parallel I'm making is these pro terrorist rallies that have

(32:29):
swarmed our universities, they have come to the streets of
our major cities. If all of that is happening in
real time while I am a resident of that country,
and I want to have a parade, okay, and I
want to wave flags, an American flag, I have something
I want to do that's recognizing Pioneer Day or Fourth

(32:50):
of July or something like that. I think what I
would want to do in a climate where there's a
lot of Americans protesting and people sympathetic to America protesting
death to their country, I would never want my efforts
or my parade to be confused with that. So what
I would want is to let people know, and I

(33:11):
would want to be very forthcoming about what this is
and why we do it, so that it wouldn't there
wouldn't be that kind of confusion in the absence of
any of that information. I don't know who would watch
that that little march from from Taylorsville. With all that
is going on this the media report acts as if
it's just quiet. You can hear the crickets, there's nothing

(33:32):
happening in this country right now. There's nothing that you
could misconstrue by that. Of course there's there is. There's
craziness going on, There's there's chaos going on, and I mean,
we just got out of the Democrat National Convention to
just see all that was happening there. It is not
a tube, it is not a bridge too far to
see that video and not understand what you're seeing and

(33:55):
think this could be similar to the things that you're seeing,
the protest going on, the rally, all of it. It
looks very similar. So what I'm saying is nobody's islamophobic.
People see things they don't understand. Now, I will say
this that this guy, the Utah Muslim Civic League founder,
this of I don't know if I'm saying his name

(34:15):
right of aas Almahad Ahmed. It seems like a pretty
reasonable guy. Okay, he really does. He says that, you know,
he feels that there was some people that Sia Muslims
in the community, felt that they were sad by the comments,
and they didn't like it because they you know ksl
or I should say, a local media outlet really amplified

(34:36):
this and made it bigger. But I liked what he said.
He said it felt like islamophobic, but I'm gonna give
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
What I would say to this gentleman and would love
to tell him is I would love to share that experience.
That kind of what I would do if I were
in his country type story, say look, we should know,

(34:56):
we should appreciate the different cultural celebrations. In this case,
this is a march that takes place celebrating the martyrdom
of their heroes, and it's called the walk Is. It's
a religious pilgrimage that millions of Shiah Muslims make yearly
called are Bayen, and it marks the fortieth day after

(35:19):
the martyrdom of the grandson of the prophet Muhammad. Anyway,
I'm just saying that I think that's a great So
that pilgrimage or that march, it's good for us to
know that those things happen, and that would be great.
That's an invitation for us to all know what's going
on in our community. But in the absence of any
of that information, do not wag your finger at people

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that are seeing things they don't understand, particularly in twenty
twenty four, with how aggressive things have become, how scary
things have become in terms of some of these riots
and everything else. Now, what I'd like to do is
I would love to hear from you the callers. Am
I seeing this wrong? Is was this video that was
shown and people being worried about it? Was it jumping

(36:03):
the gun? Was it was it born out of discrimination
and hate? The phone number if you'd like to call
and comment is eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero. I'd love to know what you have
to say. I think that this is a made up
media frenzy. I think if it had been anyone but

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this conservative House member who had posted this, it would
have come and gone. It would have had whatever follows
or whatever you know, people watching it that any individual
has by way of its there following on a social
media platform. But I think what this news outlet really
doesn't like is a conservative lawmaker, and they got more
issues with his other policy positions, and this was an opening.

(36:50):
This was an opening to try and minimalize, marginalize this
lawmaker and accuse him of moral failings, because that's what
the left does. By the way, they can't have different opinions,
you can't have different perspectives, you can't those things can't happen.
There is the leftist agenda, which I call the social
engineering oligarchs, and what they want to do that even

(37:12):
RFK Junior can't you know, abide by or Gabby Tulsa
Gabbert can't abide by any longer. It's so it is
just censorship, it's it's everything that's wrong. But if you
don't subscribe to that, then you yourself suffer from a
moral failing. You're the problem. You don't have a different opinion,

(37:32):
You're either not smart enough, you have an intellectual failing,
or you will have a moral failing if you are
not towing that line. And so I think that this
whole story meant to make this particularly representative look like
he's a racist, he's promoting Islamophobia and hateful speech. I
think it's I think that's it's not that at all.

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I think there's something bigger going on there. Anyway, we're
gonna go to a break. When we come back, I
want to go to your calls and your comments on
this issue. If you'd like. Eighty eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero is a number to call, and
when we come back, we'll go to those calls. You're
listening to the Rotten Gregg Show here on talk radio
one oh five nine Canoris. We've been talking about this
local media story, talking and saying that there's an islam

(38:20):
phobiasm or islamophobics around, and that there was a video
posted by a state lawmaker didn't have any comment to
other than this is in Taylorsville, in Utah here, and
it was a parade, and it was people in their garb,
and it was mostly women and children, and they had flags.
And without any context, I know that I saw it,

(38:41):
and I was it didn't It's not something you see
every day, and with all the riots or protests everything else,
it was concerning to me. I read this article and
it goes on it basically accuses this representative of being
a racist and for posting it for racist purposes. I
do like the guy, the gentleman from the league, the

(39:06):
what is it, the uh, what's it called? The Utah
Muslim Civic League. This guy seems pretty reasonable. He'd like
to have mistermhead Ahmed Ahmed would like to have things.
Maybe they can meet, maybe they can talk, maybe they
can get each other's perspective a little bit more. I
would facilitate that discussion here on the program if that's

(39:28):
what it took, because I think that would be good,
better than what we're getting out of the out of
the media right now. But I want to go to
the callers. They said, what say you am? I am
I really perpetuating racism? And islamophobic sentiment by saying that
there's another side to this, that this is something that naturally,
without context, it might seem disconcerting to many many people

(39:49):
given it's twenty twenty four and what's going on around
the country. Or am I seeing it completely wrong? So
if you'd like to comment on this, eight eight eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero is the number
to call. And you are the smartest listening audience in
the whole world. So I do trust your take. And
with that, let's go to David and Kerns. David, thank
you for joining the program. What say you, sir? Okay?

(40:16):
Let me put them on hold?

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Here? Did I do it?

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I mean I didn't, ah, okay.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
And you should have seen the giant traffic jam.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Okay, David, I missed that beginning of your I apologize.
You have to rewind my friend because I I when
Rod's not here, I got the NASA like board in
front of me and I hit the wrong button, so
we didn't get to hear you. Thank you for calling,
Thank you for joining us. What's your take on all this?

Speaker 2 (40:46):
About three years ago, South Pound thirty nine hundred South
state this identical march mistaking place I drove by. I
couldn't believe it. There was this gigantic, graphic jam of people,
just regular citizenry that were just astonished. So I pulled
forward a block or two and pulled over and waited

(41:06):
for them to catch up with me, and talked to
one of the few males. You're right, they're almost all
women and children, and found out, you know, that it
was this religious thing. They invited me to their mosque
which is over on Main Street, right over there, and
I went there and went to their thing, and they
had brought in a reciter from New York to recite

(41:31):
the tragic story of the martyrdom of Hussein. And I'll
just end by saying, I couldn't believe how many forty
plus males at that mosque only had one leg. I mean,
there were a hundred of them. And so to blame

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our representative for looking at that they had black clothes
on this is they had their I looked today that
flagged these ladies had, and the flag of ices is
identical if you don't read Arabic, right, So the KSL
was doing a dirty job on us.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Yeah, I agree, Thank you for your call. Thanks for
that comment. I appreciate it because I do think that
they're making a lot out of this, and I think
the underlying issue this news, this news outlet has is
with a conservative lawmaker and his other issues and other
issues he takes, and this was the opening they saw
to try and to minimalize him and his efforts and

(42:31):
the issues he advocates for, which, by the way, are
ones that I do too, and I think this listening
audience would as well. Let's go to Aaron in Smithfield. Aaron,
Welcome to the program. Sir, what do you think about
all this?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Well?

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Is this uh just awareness? I mean, is this what
the intent is? To make us aware? And the first thing,
and I did see it in the first thing I
noticed is where are the men come? There are no
men there. Second of all, and you said about Christians
and other countries, Well, I don't know that there are
any in these very devout Muslim countries, right, And if

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they really wanted to try to show some unity, I
would have hoped to also see some assimilation as maybe
the American flag also, or some outreach, you know, to
get other people to understand what it is. And when
you look all over the world, we're looking at Ireland,
we're looking at England, we're looking in France. You know,

(43:31):
this stuff is happening everywhere, and it gets pretty violent,
and there's some people that are obviously they're very devout.
I mean, they're they're wearing all the roads that they should.
And on top of that, we have a wide open border,
so we really don't know who's here. But I would
hope that if somebody wants to do that, and you know,
God bless them to do that. But I think the

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responsibility of those that are assimilating is the responsibility to
reach out and explain to people what they're doing, why
they're doing it, and you know, create some sort of
communication or you know, some sort of relationship.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
Aaron, I agree, thank you for the call I in that,
and let's just I just think that's common sense. I know,
Aaron brings up a good point. You don't see the
if you're a Christian, you're not going to be able
to just advertise it and have parades and celebrate your
faith in some of these in some of these countries.
I use that as a comparison to say, if I

(44:31):
was in a country and I wanted to have a
days of forty seven march or a parade or celebration
or a Fourth of July. But there were people that
were Americans also that were protesting that country, wanting death
to that country, others that were sympathetic to America that
wanted death to that country. I would never want my
celebration to be confused with that, and I think that

(44:54):
it would serve everyone to be very transparent and to
be very open about that and have some room for
understanding if people see it and they don't understand it.
The one caller said that you know these flags unless
you understand and can read erbic, you wouldn't know a
nicest flag from another. And why would you know? And
so I think we should. Brady's a slow down, Tampa down.

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And it's not racism. It's ugly face when people are
concerned about what they're seeing, especially given the conditioned situations
we're in right now. You're seeing around the world, are
open border here and what's happening here in twenty twenty
four when we come back, we're gonna go to a break.
But I'd like to continue to talk about this. If
you would look the number eight eight eight five seven

(45:37):
zero eight zero one zero is the number to call.
You're listening to talk radio one oh five nine knrs.
Rod's not with me today. I'm flying solo. I'm the
the wingman's on his own. Rod's under the weather, but
he's gonna get make a hearty comeback shows flying. We're
going through a lot of stuff. We've been talking about
this islamophobia, you know, and the local news outlet says,

(46:02):
we got Islamophobia on our hands, folks. It's a serious deal.
We got this state lawmaker. He's just promoting it. He's
promoting a prejudice and he's the hate and everything else.
And it seems like this guy might be falling if
you were to listen to or read this local news
outlets description of this whole thing. The funny not funny.

(46:23):
But the interesting part is I think that the Utah
Muslim Civic League founder of Aias Ahmed Ahmed, it seems
like the rational person in the article or he's trying
to tone her down, almost saying, look, I'm given him
the benefit of that. I don't know that it was islamophobic,
and it would love to meet with him. Maybe it's
an opportunity we can talk. I would just say that

(46:44):
this that in the times we live in. I believe
that it is absolutely disconcerting without any other information to
see that with all that's going on with open borders,
with all the riots and the protests everything else. So
I want to go to the phones. I want to
hear from you the list and find out what's what
you have to say about this? Is it?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Am I downplaying this?

Speaker 5 (47:05):
Is this?

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Is this a serious deal?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Am I?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Am I missing the point? Or do we have some
you know, news outlets that like to make hay and
and go after people unnecessarily. Let's go to Jay uh
and avon Jay. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (47:22):
Hello again, Hey, how are you?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Thank you for joining us?

Speaker 2 (47:26):
Jay?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
I remember your voice? Give us some give us some
truth bombs? Wall you what what's this all about?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
How were we?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Are we seeing this the right way? Or is there
something I'm missing?

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (47:38):
I want to dialogue a little bit with Gillett. You
know the old cliche one in Rome does the Romans
and uh, that's like go along to get along.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And I don't.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
I don't think that we have to be doing all
this you know, divisionism and you know and Zionism and
Islam and all these isms. I think this is just
my idea thought is is it's not a hard reach
just to ask, you know, their segment or their group too. Hey,

(48:16):
this is great. Could you do a little more outreach
and do a little translation on your flag to so
US locals, yocals that don't speak as well understand it.
Can can can you translate that a little bit so
we know what's going on because you're part of us. Now,
you know, you're in a community world. Yeah, we're we're neighbors.

(48:39):
That's we're neighbors. Can't we be friends and and and
and and maybe maybe it's a scheduling thing with the
traffics or you know, the time of day or whatever.
You know, so maybe there's a couple of little workarounds.
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, I agree with you, Jay, thank you for the call.
I'll tell you what I think. You're exactly right. I
think that this is an opportunity, it's a spring, it's
an opportunity to show a different side than maybe what
we are seeing nationally, what we are seeing that is
and there is no there is no moral equivalency to
defending the terrorists and the people that slaughtered those women
and children in Israel on October sixth, that you can't.

(49:17):
I refuse to even entertain a conversation where that is
given some kind of same moral equivalent with Israel and Gauza.
So I think that if that's not what we're talking about,
and we weren't in terms of this annual pilgrimage that
they make, what a great time to help clarify and
bring people together and help people understand different cultures. Let's

(49:39):
go to Let's go to Jerry in Oakley. Jerry, thank
you for calling in. What is your take, sir?

Speaker 12 (49:48):
Well, you know, twenty one years ago I was in Moses, Iraq,
and this event was banned by Saddam because it makes
so much volatility. But the schmucks at the State Department said, hey,
maybe we should let them try it. They see videos,
but you'll see fathers will be taking a sharp blade
and cutting their son's foreheads. And there's also where a
lot of a group of large men will get into

(50:10):
one room and beat themselves like the Catty nine tails,
like self flagellation. It just causes a lot of trouble.
It causes riots. Wow, just like that the soccer matches.
So you can't do it there? Why do you think
you can do it here and.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
That is a and you saw that as a member
of the military, sir. Is that what you were saying
twenty years ago? Yeah right, yes, thank you Jerry for
that perspective. And look, that's you know, I did not
know that, and I think that, you know, that's probably
the downside of Saddamusan is was back at that time
not wanting to see that procession because of the violence

(50:48):
that it would cause. Maybe that's even furthering this conversation
that we would have about the issue. So I, you know, look,
I'll just say this, We're gonna go to a break,
but actually let me let me have time. I think
we have time for Dean. Let me go to Dean
and uh in London very quickly before we go to break. Dean,
I only have about a minute. But what I didn't

(51:10):
want to miss your call. Uh what's your take?

Speaker 10 (51:15):
Well, my take is we're making too much out of
all this stuff. You know, the gay pride parades, from
the rainbow flags. Who explains those.

Speaker 8 (51:27):
You know why?

Speaker 10 (51:28):
Just goes back to the Egyptians. Yeah, you know, so
I don't think we need to explain anything. And who
explains to the different sex of the Jews. So there's
asking authors, the parties and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
You know it.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
Thank you, yeah, Dean, I appreciate the call. I think
the reason that we talked about why would we'd explain,
is that there was a video that went out and
it showed this march, and without any context, it would
look about it. It looks as daunting or as concerning
as the marches or the rallies that we've seen that
have been chanting death to America or have been pro

(52:07):
terrorist rallies, and so it really gave people pause. And
it turns out that this procession is is not that
this is a religious march that they do annually and
doesn't have that same context, but absent any information, and
whether you're in Taylorsville, Utah, or you're seeing that video,
I don't know why you would you would know or

(52:29):
how you would know it was any different. But it's
like this, if someone is ripping on a Christian, I
don't assume that they're a Roman and they want to
feed that Christian to the lions. I'm just not I'm
not going there. In my head, it doesn't dawn on me.
And I think that any news outlet that wants to
demonize someone who posted that videos as islamophobic and hated.
You know, promoting hatred is way overstated or worse. Okay,

(52:55):
we're gonna go to a break. When we come back,
I want to get into Kamala Harris's got she's got
an interview coming up. I got some questions that I'm
going to just throw out there for Dana Bash. I
know she's listening to the show. I know she hangs
on our every word. We got some good suggestions for
her when we come back. You're listening to the Rodding
Gregg Show here on Talk radio one oh five nine Canterus,
and it has some interaction with Dana Bash. She's the
reporter from CNN that's going to be giving that first

(53:19):
interview to Kamala and her comfort pet Tim Walls, Governor Walls.
So I was at the convention in twenty sixteen. I
had my cousin Matt from Pittsburgh with me. We were
on the floor. We get to be on the floor
for a little while. This is back when Utah delegation
didn't want Trump, they wanted Ted Cruz and so Dana
Bash is super excited. She came with a camera person
with the light on, and she wanted to talk to

(53:40):
one of these Utah delegates that hated Trump. It was
an exciting moment for her. And she picked out of
the blue my cousin Matt from Pittsburgh, and she didn't
know he wasn't from Utah and he didn't tell her.
And she said, oh, tell me about Donald Trump, because
she thought he was going to just rip into him.
And he said, oh right, we love Donald Trump. We
love him, and he went on on you saw you
just saw the enthusiasm lee face. She just got so sad.

(54:01):
She turned to the cameraman had him turn the light
off on the camera. It just was not the interview
she was looking for. So when she's going to interview
Kamala Harris, don't be overly excited that there's going to
be really tough questions asked. But I hope we would
expect to hear and it won't be. But these are
the questions I would want price controls. Do you think
it's going to raise the price of food? And if not, why,

(54:24):
I'd like to know if she thinks that the the
green agenda that she's pushed, how's that worked in terms
of our economy. How about being the deciding vote on
the Inflation Reduction Act? Did it actually cause inflation instead
of forty year high printing all that money? How did
that work for us? I'd ask her, when's the last
time you've been to the border? I mean, you are

(54:44):
if she doesn't want to be the borders are, when
was the last time she visited? Does she think that
there should that we should make decriminalize illegal immigration? Does
that help the working class when we do that? And
we if we were to decriminalize it? How about being
the party of democracy? What part of her being the
nominee reflects a democratically elected republic? What vote? What's happened here?

(55:07):
You know these questions aren't going to get asked, but
they're good ones, aren't they. I would also I would
ask if let me see that, I'd ask you know,
you say that that Donald Trump wants to slash Medicare
and social Security, but when the Biden administration is moving
to cut Medicaid Medicare advantage, do you own that?

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Is that you?

Speaker 1 (55:28):
Or is that him? Is there any daylight between you
and the current president? Twenty five thousand dollars for the
homeowner is that going to just raise homes twenty five
thousand bucks? Does that make homes more affordable? Madame Vice President,
I don't know that she'll be able to answer that.
How about this EV mandate? She was in this New
Green Deal, she loved, She wanted every car to be
at EV and she even in the Senate voted for

(55:52):
to happen as soon as twenty thirty five. Do you
still believe that? And if not, why not? Those are
the type of questions we'd love Dana Ash to ask.
I don't know that she will. Well, we have questions.
Stick with me for the next break, next hour with
your host, Citizen Greg Hughes, We're gonna shift gears a
little bit. We've been talking about national politics, We've been
talking about the a lot of the local issues. This

(56:15):
last hour we talked about you know, the case or
the local news outlet story, inflammatory story in my opinion,
got some great calls and good takes on that issue. Well, look,
it's the end of August, it's it's back to school time.
I mean, honestly, my kids are now adults. This was
always a big issue for me. I was also as

(56:35):
a state lawmaker, the chair of the House Education Committee.
I've worked on education issues throughout my time as a
public servant. It's always been in Utah. It can't help
but be a front burner issue. That all said, I
think times have really changed. I think since COVID it's
even gotten a lot different, maybe even more critical for
parents to be watching out. And then also with the

(56:58):
curriculum some of the scary things we're seeing that frankly
I didn't felt like I didn't have to deal with
as a parent and my children being at school. So
on the program we have with us today Christine Cook Fairbanks.
She's the education policy analyst for the Sutherland Institute and
it has prepared and has produced a great study called
Parent Engagement in Public Schools. So joining us on a

(57:20):
program is Christine. Christine, it's back to school time. Share
with us from this report that you've created. Share with
our listeners what they should be aware of as our
kids are going back into the classroom.

Speaker 13 (57:33):
So the title of this paper's boosing parent engagement public
schools by strengthening parent access. So it's that part about
parent access that we really tried to focus on and
specifically parents having access to understanding what's going on in
the classroom, what their students are learning, what the curriculum is.
In this new report, you know, it looks at a
number of things, sort of the history of this idea

(57:55):
that we want access to this public institution transparency, We
want to know how house schools are performing, how they're
spending funding, but also now, you know, especially post pandemic,
what students are learning. And so this has kind of
grown over time. We know that states have kind of
taken the lead on this. Trying to increase parent access
in Utah is no different. In the past several years,

(58:18):
Utah has passed legislation to make sure that parents can
have access, you know, a law that says that they
need curriculum needs to be really available and accessible to
parents to review. And a lot of the work does
kind of focus on the district level, what state boards
are required to do, and so part of this report
also looks at the work that districts have done, some

(58:40):
areas of improvement, as well as some other legislative ideas.
So it covers the gamut there, but hopefully it gives
people some good ideas going forward.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
So a number of years ago, when I was a
state lawmaker, one of the challenges. We'd see these community
councils that are made up of parents and teachers and
principles in every school, elementary, middle school, high schools, and
in some districts and in some communities you would have
a high level of parental participation. Other areas you didn't
see a lot of parents show up at all. And

(59:10):
that was the challenge that we saw in terms of
parental engagement. It seems bigger than that now in terms
of what the curriculum is. Are you still what are
those touch points where you're trying to get parents or
point parents in the right direction so that they can
be more aware of what's happening inside those classrooms and
the curriculum that their kids are. Is it still the

(59:31):
community councils that we want them to be a part of.
Are they a part of it? Is it different than that?

Speaker 13 (59:38):
So there's state law that talks about parents getting involved
in the approval of district wide curriculum, and the report
touches on that as well. And I think the clearer
the opportunity and the clearer the information, the more they
are likely to get involved. And I think that's sort
of the thesis is the easier we can make this
for parents, the more likely that they will will actually engage.

(01:00:00):
So and this I mean you think about teachers, right,
we often talk about their overburdened. They're overworked. That is
totally legitimate, and so to ask for more from them,
we need it to be something that's actually reasonable and
sensible to do so. So this paper is really looking
at ways to make information more accessible. So I'll give
you an example. One part of the report, we did

(01:00:22):
a review of the forty one school districts and looked
at what sort of policies were in place, how easy
they were to find, and you know, we created a
metric based on our ideal. I guess so two to
three clicks away from the homepage, and then whether or
not they actually hosted information about curriculum, and kind of
went through each one of those. So all districts have
some sort of policy on the books that explains either

(01:00:43):
how they can be involved like you were just describing,
or how they can access curriculum in the first place.
And then there is a calumn looking at you know,
which districts actually host information. Only twenty seven do, right,
So that means there's fourteen districts that don't have that's
readily available. And then beyond that, I mean there's just
some areas of just simple, simple fixes that don't require legislation,

(01:01:07):
you know, making sure that the links aren't broken, that
actually leads to a real web page, that they're organized
by grade subjects. So if we can make these sorts
of things really intuitive for parents, that increases the likelihood
they'll get involved. Another key piece of this paper is
really explaining the parent teacher partnership. For the parent teacher
relationship so often in politics it kind of becomes this

(01:01:28):
you versus me sort of a mentality, we really want
to bring that together and say, hey, we're partners in
the achievement of this student, the learning of the student.
And so that's really what it's aimed towards. That's what
the recommendations hopefully get toward. One recommendation is to have
the legislature potentially enact a program that rewards teachers who

(01:01:50):
are proactively giving parents access to information on curriculum. So
what this is really getting at, I mean, we've heard
from plenty of teachers saying, hey, we do this right,
we post information we have canvass now most teachers are
using some version of an online platform, and so there
are teachers that are already doing this. That's great, So
we can reward those if it's available.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
Could we incentivize more Christine, let me ask you this question.
Necessity is the mother of invention. Did COVID teach parents'
lessons about education curriculum? No one would have imagined that
we would send children home, students home, and that there
would be a home based learning program for all. That
worked in a lot of areas, it didn't work in others.

(01:02:32):
But what did parents learn? Do you think or did
they during COVID about their children's education? Are they coming
out a little smarter on the other side of that
COVID experience?

Speaker 8 (01:02:43):
Great question.

Speaker 13 (01:02:44):
I think the answer is definitely yes. So I think
they learned a lot, just even the opportunity to see
that they could be more involved, that they could ask
these questions, that they could maybe do school at home
at their kitchen table. Education has really never looked the
same since there's more homeschooling going on, people that are
reporting themselves as homeschooling that can look different. You know,

(01:03:05):
they could be using state funds to do that, or
simply completely disconnected from the state and doing it on
their own, more people, you know, looking at alternatives, charters,
all of that has seen an increase. So I think
you do see sort of this natural parent engagement. So
so hopefully this is sort of hitching on that energy
and saying how can we also improve that within public

(01:03:26):
schools as well. So so certainly I think I think
we're in a time when this is this is you know,
the Overton window when this would make sense.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
So I don't think this is in your report. But
this isn't an issue that came up in our show.
I believe it was last week. It might have been,
might have been yesterday or Monday we spoke about. We
spoke about cell phones in the classroom and whether that
should be. That is actually this week we talked about it.
But some callers said, what if we had cameras in

(01:03:56):
our classroom where parents could look and see, you know,
observe the what the curriculum is, what's being taught, even
the behavior of their own child or yeah, own student.
What's your take on cameras? Would that would that be
a great conduit of communication or understanding what's going on.
Some I know a lot of great teachers that just

(01:04:16):
don't like it and have told me as much. But
it seems like it would be It would be good
for class management, it would be good for a lot
of reasons. You've looked at all of these issues with
parents and the teacher relationship. Do you haven't any Do
you have any thoughts about cameras in the classroom.

Speaker 13 (01:04:34):
Sutherland does not have a statement or a policy position
on that issue in particular. My sense is that hopefully
we could get to increasing parent access without using cameras.
I do think that technology, in terms of just putting
information online could hopefully give parents enough to do that.
I do wonder what that might do to teach a morale.

(01:04:56):
It's something I think came through loud and clear. Sutherland
did some date actually on curriculum transparency earlier in the year,
and it was interesting. The majority of utele likely voters
said they wanted more curriculum transparency, but the one bucket
that had the highest support was not mandating it from teachers,
not mandating it from districts, but rewarding teachers. I think

(01:05:17):
there's the sensitivity, and you taught to kind of bring
down stateholdures together. My sense is that that would not
be welcomed by teachers, and so I think Paulson needs
to kind of reflect those those.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Different interests as well. Christine Cook Fairbranes, thank you so
much for your insight, for your report. It makes all
the sense in the world. And I do think that
our parents, you got to get to know those teachers
in front of your kids. It's I think we've seen
some of those random videos we talked about this earlier
in the week, where where the student, unbeknowns to the parent,
to the teacher, is recording what they're saying. And some

(01:05:49):
of those recordings, as they've gone viral, have been parents
worst nightmares. Some of the things that they've said to
these kids politically, you know, sexualizing the kids or talking
about things that you would is not in the curriculum
or what you'd want teachers talking about. So get to
know your teachers, get engaged. Especially right now, I think
it's a clarion call for all of us. So when

(01:06:12):
we come back, we're going to I'm going to talk
about the polls. I'm going to keep you as updated
on these polls because every the regime media wants there
to be a commal abounce so bad from this last
last week's election or last week's last week's convention, Democrat
National Convention. It didn't happen. They're trying to find ways
to make it the case. I just I'm seeing a

(01:06:34):
poll that's just being released today. I'm going to tell
you about it, but then I'm going to tell you
the rest of the story when we come back. You're
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So I'm looking in this new poll came out and

(01:06:57):
people are so excited. When I say people, I mean
the left. So they have a So what's the headline.
So let me look at this headline first before I
give you the numbers. They're saying Harris has lead over
Trump after DNC says nationwide poll. This poll, released today
was conducted by the Florida Atlantic University Political Communication and

(01:07:21):
Public Opinion Research Lab and Main Street Research USA. In
that poll, it says that Kamala Harris has taken the
lead over former US President Donald Trump nationally with a
forty seven percent, with forty seven percent of voters supporting
her compared to Trump's forty three percent, so that would

(01:07:41):
be quite a large margin. Among likely voters, Harris leads
forty nine percent to forty five percent, and and she
gained strong support among women, with fifty three percent backing
her while forty five percent of men support her. So
that's that's the those that's the bump they been waiting for.
The issue here is that we're sitting here on Wednesday.

(01:08:05):
There's been a lot of polls that have been done.
We know for fact that these campaigns have been doing
polls they do. They do them daily, they're running poles,
and you've not seen them come out. I've seen some
comments from posters that there's been a frustration that there's
an aggregate and you usually see polls that are coming
out quite often and they're able to let that be

(01:08:27):
updated on a frequent basis. Since the DNC republic Democrat
Convention has concluded, it has slowed. You've not seen the
polls released at the frequency that you were seeing prior.
And there's a there's a theory out there that that's
because they didn't like the numbers they were seeing. They
didn't like what they were watching. All I'll tell you
is this. I don't buy those polls. Even that poll

(01:08:49):
right there is less than one percent outside its margin
of error of three point eight percent, so three point
two percent, sorry, and it's a four percent lead. It's
showing you know what the war dependable place to go is.
It's the betting lines. This poly market takes the takes
the betting lines, and it's showing you basically where people
are putting their money. It's so easy in August to

(01:09:12):
vote or to say who you'd like to vote for.
It's just a hypothetical. You're not actually casting the vote yet.
I've always believed in all campaigns and elections that when
you pull people early weeks and weeks before an election,
there's the ideal, there's something they'd like to do, there's
someone they would like to support. But is it is
It comes down to the wire. Other factors play a part,

(01:09:33):
and it's not always the same. But when you're partner
with your cash, Okay, if you're in you're going on
these betting lines and you're going to put your money in, well,
that's a committed vote. That's a much more committed vote
than taking one of these online polls or answering the
phone you know to a number you don't recognize. Here's
what the here's what those polls say. They have Trump

(01:09:53):
still leading even after the National Democrat Convention, fifty forty
eight percent. And here's the interesting ones. We're looking at
the swing states. Here the polling numbers. You got sixty
one percent, the sixth the favorability, the likelihood that Trump
will win Georgia by the betting line, sixty one percent

(01:10:14):
to Kamala's thirty nine percent. In Georgia, you've got sorry,
you've got in, You've got in Arizona, fifty five percent
over forty five percent for Kamala Harris. In terms of
the betting line, that's ten percent lead. Nevada, fifty three
percent likely for Trump to win Nevada based on where

(01:10:34):
the money's going versus forty seven percent of that going
to Kamala Harris. Pennsylvania the big one. That's a forty
nine to fifty one percent advantage. So just just a
little over two points there. But remember we've always said,
you know Trump pump, he pulls low. I wonder if

(01:10:54):
he bets low. I don't know about the betting. Wisconsin
looks very good for Kamala Harris right now, six percent
over Trump's forty four percent. So fifty six percent of
the smart money's going to Harris in Wisconsin, sixty one
percent of the money smart money's going to Kamala in Michigan.
But when you talk Pennsylvania, Trump's up, that of Trump's up, Arizona,

(01:11:17):
Trump's up. Georgia, Trump's up. So those are good signs.
Those are very good signs.

Speaker 5 (01:11:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
And then you get to this poll that and I
love this one because this is from the Economist, which
no one will ever accuse of being a you know,
a right of center publication. A great poll conducted between
January twenty or August twenty fifth and twenty seventh, by
let's see, Yeah, it's by the it's by the Economist,

(01:11:44):
and they have some other poller with them, but it's
that's who's doing the poll. It has fifty three percent
of those polled, and fifteen hundred Americans were sampled here
believe that Harris is placating the public. And you go
figure and merely telling folks what they want to hear him.
Just over a third of voters thirty five percent say
Harris believes what she actually says. The trend holds among

(01:12:07):
the thirteen hundred registered voters slightly it's a slightly larger share.
Fifty four percent of the demographic thinks that Harris is
doesn't just not believe, she's disingenuous in her message and
is merely appeasing voters. Harris, according to this poll, has
a substantial problem with with the independent voters, and this

(01:12:29):
selection ladies and gentlemen will be decided by the by
the independent voters. Republicans aren't voting for Harris, and you
know Democrats aren't voting for Trump, so the independence in
East swing states are going to decide this election. She's
got a credibility problem with independence. Fifty six percent don't
believe a word she's saying. So if you flip that,

(01:12:49):
fifty three percent believe that Trump is the same people
they're pulling. Fifty three percent believe that Trump is sincere,
and nearly half think that Trump speaks his own views.
How could he not. He doesn't do what Kamala Harris
is doing. He doesn't say what He's not trying to
be everything to everyone. He has opinions, he has issues,
he takes and you watch it because the media will

(01:13:11):
take the most logical, extreme negative interpretation of anything he says.
It doesn't slow him down. He keeps saying it. So
I think that is again a credibility problem with Kamala
as as we get into this election. A poll that
just came out that says Harris has taken the lead,
but that lead is still short. If you listen to
guys like Actual Rod and David Actulerod the Democrat guy

(01:13:35):
with Obama who's watching Poles internally, and you look at
James Carvel, the raging Cajun who gets under my skin constantly.
He's saying, Democrats, if we're not ahead more than four,
than we're losing, they're not ahead more than four. So
I think that the polls are looking good. I think
the smart money's looking Trump's way as well. And that's

(01:13:55):
just on the heels of the Democrat National Convention, which
should not be a time where the Republican nominee for
president is ahead anywhere. They usually, you know, shift places
after each convention and then it kind of settles after
Labor Day. So I think things are looking good. Trump's
numbers are stubborn. He's not going away anytime soon. He

(01:14:16):
is talking issues, and I think that people like RFK
Junior joining his campaign supporting him. Tulsea Gabbard, I think
you'll see a coalition of concerned Americans concerned for the
direction of this country and where we're going, and that
that is going to be the deciding factor in this
race this year. Okay, So we're gonna go to a break,

(01:14:37):
and when we come back, we're going to talk to
John Nance. He's a calumnist, former easy retired FBI agent.
We're going to talk about how RFK Junior, as I
mentioned him, found make America great again on common ground
and supports Trump. We'll be interviewing him when we come
back after the break. You're listening to The Rodden Gregg
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(01:15:02):
RFK Junior. I like the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
I do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I've liked what he's talked about. I like he's critical
of these pharmaceutical companies big pharma, or food supply chain
or something wrong, kids are getting sick. I think it's
a modern day profiles and encourage that he has joined
President Trump. I know that's not where he ever thought
he would go, but watching what's happened to him with
this Democrat Party. I think he loves his country far

(01:15:27):
more than any political party, and that's what you're seeing
roll out right before our eyes. A great column was
written about this, comparing Camelot, the Kennedy Camelot with Make
America Great Again and Donald Trump. Joining us on the program,
John Nance, he's a columnist with town Hall. Retired FBI
agent John, thank you for joining us on the program.

(01:15:47):
You know, I really enjoyed your article. But maybe you
can share with our listeners, why do you think there's
more in common with Camelot and MAGA than people would
have imagined.

Speaker 14 (01:15:56):
The thing about RFK and the Kennedy family and jaf
K in particular, if you look at JFK's famous inaugural speech,
the one where he said, ask not what your country
can do for you, but what you can do for
your country, that's the polar opposite of what we see
in the Democrat Party today. That that was the attitude

(01:16:20):
of you know, civic responsibility and you know, what can
you contribute in terms of your responsibilities and obligations as
a citizen, as opposed to what we see in the
Democrat Party today. What can we give you, you know what,
what welfare benefit can we provide? And it robs people

(01:16:45):
of an inherent sense of dignity. And I think RFK
has recognized and he's gone further to affirm that Trump's
maga that make America great again has more in common
within that can do spirit that JFK referred to.

Speaker 8 (01:17:05):
Then then does the Democrat Party of Paris.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
I completely agree, And I would have thought there would
have been a moment when I mean, he had been
saying from the beginning. I don't think RFK Junior started
the year believing that that this day would come where
he would uh suspend his campaign and support Donald Trump.
But he was making a very strong case that that
Joe Biden will not be able to He's not ready.
He cannot run again, He's not ready for this. Everything

(01:17:32):
he said was correct, and it's proven out to be
the case. How I'm surprised that he has great attraction
with young voters. He's done great on podcasts that Joe
Rogan showed the I mean, he's really has a has
a niche. But why do you say, why do you
think that democrats rank and filed Democrats haven't at least
when Joe Biden dropped out and there wasn't a primary,

(01:17:54):
didn't he didn't see more support from the Democrats side
for the things he was saying, which turned out to
be true.

Speaker 14 (01:18:01):
Well, I think so many people, and unfortunately, I think
it's kind of characteristic of the Democrat base that they
they tend to be very sound bye driven, or they
just check in from time to time. So whatever they
happen to see on CNN, whatever talking point that happens
to be, you know, the the propaganda point of the day,

(01:18:23):
that's that's what they see, that's what they hear. So
the Democrat Party anointed one now obviously is Kamala Harris.
And as Victor Davis Hansen has said, they're.

Speaker 8 (01:18:34):
Going to try to erase everything before that day. So
Kamala before you know, the Democrat Party.

Speaker 14 (01:18:43):
Really coronation of Paris, everything that happened before that is
just not even part of history.

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Well, I hope we won't let them forget that. She's
on day one thy three hundred and something. There is
no day one in her future. Kamala Harris, this is coming.
We're watching this play out and it's it's pretty I think,
on settling to watch it's coming a big I think
personal sacrifice for RFK Junior to join and support Donald Trump.
His family. He's had siblings that have publicly attacked him.

(01:19:19):
His running mate says that she thinks that the Democrat
Party has lost its soul. Do you think that the numbers?
So you looked at the numbers prior to him RFK
Junior before he suspended his campaign. We haven't seen that
shift of percentage go immediately over to Trump, but you've
seen a little bit. I think you've seen a little
bit of that strength. Where does the RFK Junior voter

(01:19:40):
ultimately go. Do they stay at home, do they go
back to the Democrats, or do they join the the
MAGA in Trump's campaign?

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
What do you what?

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Say?

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
You?

Speaker 8 (01:19:50):
Yeah, Well, that's kind of a tough question.

Speaker 14 (01:19:53):
I would think that RFK voters are probably going to
do one of two things. Either they're going to be
disgusted with the entire process because of what they've seen
with the treatment of RFK and they're just going to
sit at home, or they're going to end up making
that Trump vote. I don't see them going back to
the Democrat Party that you know sidelined RFK, who are

(01:20:17):
RFK Junior, who you know, really embodies the ideals and
the policies that are important to them. So in my opinion,
it's either a sit at home a vote or a
vote for Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
You know, I really what I liked about your article too,
is I think you're tracking the core of JFK's campaign.
He was a young senator running against LBJ President of
the Senate, and he broke the rules. He went out
there West Virginia and he campaigned personally, and LBJ was saying, well,
he should be in the Senate voting. He's not doing
his job, and there was this elitism that JFK was

(01:20:53):
fighting against. But what you didn't see back then is
that they would completely turn the rules on their ear
to disadvantage JFK, to give him no chance at all.
This idea that he that the Democrats have been working
so hard to remove RFK Junior from the ballot in
so many important states, and then as soon as he
suspends his campaign and uh and supports Donald Trump, they

(01:21:15):
fight to keep him on the ballot in Michigan. Is
that going to resonate? Are people going to see the
fixes in here? This is this They can't hold these
same thoughts at the same time for any other reason
than just trying to game this election. And I'm talking
about the Democrats and the Harris campaign. Is that going
to be Is that going to dawn on people? Are
people going to feel how much this is being gained

(01:21:37):
by the Democrats right now?

Speaker 14 (01:21:39):
Well, I think the key is if they're paying attention. Yeah,
that's the biggest problem right now. Everybody's being pulled in
all these different directions, and you know, you're going to
wonder what the next shiny object is going to be
to try to distract from the real issues that are
important to this election cycle.

Speaker 8 (01:21:56):
And RFK Junior, I.

Speaker 14 (01:21:59):
Don't see if I don't see if people are really
paying attention, how they don't see and understand how the
Democrat Party frankly is a statist party, it's a collectivist party.
RFK Junior is none of those things. JFK was none
of those things. And the party has gone so far

(01:22:21):
to the left, you know, in particular the squad, you know, AOC,
all these individuals who are supporting these really radical ideas,
like supporting the atrocities that were committed on October sixth
by by yes By Hamas it's it has become such

(01:22:43):
a radicalized party that anyone who's paying attention it's going
to have to come to that same conclusion.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Final question, and again these are all opinions, but you're
a thought leader, and you're out here and you're engaging,
and I love again, I think these are the things
that you should be listening to and really looking at
some of these contrasts or some of these similarities. Like JFK.
What about JFK Junior? You know, I think about him sometimes.
You know, he started that magazine Georgie, and it seemed
like he wanted to have a real debate, he wanted

(01:23:13):
to have really wanted to mix it up. I think
he didn't live long enough for us to know where
would he be for with uncle RFK Junior? In your mind,
do you think he'd be with his pops or do
you think he'd be with the the old camelot crowd.

Speaker 14 (01:23:29):
No, I think he'd be closer to that. I think
he'd be closer to RFK Junior. That's why, I mean,
that's obviously it's just my opinion. But those things that
were important back in that day, that the idea of
comedy that you could you could differ, You could differ
as to the means of trying to get to the objective,

(01:23:50):
But everybody's objective was really pretty much the same. Democrat
Republican everybody wanted every everybody wanted a great America. Right
And by the way, MAGA, that's not particular to Trump.

Speaker 8 (01:24:04):
That's actually a term.

Speaker 14 (01:24:05):
That was coined by Ronald Reagan absolutely back in his yeah,
back in his nineteen eighty campaign against the disastrous Jimmy Carter.

Speaker 8 (01:24:13):
So I think that he would be right there with
his pops.

Speaker 14 (01:24:19):
I am very much hoping for working toward, you know,
a Trump twenty twenty four victory, and I think that
is that's the only real solution to so many of
the issues, the government weaponization stuff, the economic problems, the
foreign policy disasters. I think Trump will be able to

(01:24:41):
handily come in and rectify those issues in a fashion
that will make America great again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
I couldn't agree more. John Nance, thank you for joining
us columnst John Nance with town Hall. Great column, a great,
great discussion. Thank you, and keep up the good work. Okay, folks,
when we come back. My final thoughts here on the
Rodden Greg Show. You're listening to talk radio one oh
five nine. Can rs just have about a minute left

(01:25:09):
the Roden greg Show here on Talk Radio one o
five nine. Canterr s know, I've been listening to this
whole show, listening to Abby talk about this, these poor
kids put in makeshift cells. My world, if you put
a kid in a makeshift shell, you need to go
to a county jail or a state prison cell.

Speaker 8 (01:25:24):
I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
What's going on with these parents and these kids. I mean,
I'm just hearing about this more. It's bizarre. Anyway, listen.
I don't know if you know this, but in Utah,
September is the American Founder and Constitution Month. So American
Founders and Constitution Month. It all kicks off actually tomorrow morning,
August twenty ninth, at the State Capitol at ten am
at the State Rotunda Capital Rotunda. Look, they're gonna have

(01:25:50):
patriotic programs that start at ten am with the American
Heritage School Choir performing patriotic activities for kids between nine
and ten. And after the program's over and and then
patriotic artifacts on display. Wear your red, white, and blue.
Go to the State Capitol and kick off this Founders
and Constitution Month here in the state of Utah. So again,

(01:26:12):
just closing thoughts is it's a crazy time. We'll be back.
I don't know if we'll be back tomorrow. Maybe it's
a long Labor Day weekend. We'll find out how Rod
is feeling and see if we do. If not, we
will be back after Labor Day. Action goes live. Listen,
hands up, chin down, eyes forward, answer the bell, and
we'll see you back here on the Rod and Greg
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