Rod and Greg Show - "Live" from the Greek Festival; Latest Jobs Report; Harris' Dishonest Flip Flops - Rod Arquette Show

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, it is Friday. It is. We used to call
this thank Rod It's Friday. Now we have to add
thank Rod and Greg is Friday into the mix as
we broadcast live from the is It forty eight George
forty eighth Annual Greek Festival in downtown Salt Lake City.
It's bigger. I don't know if you get any better.
Every year is really good, but you know, they add
things each and every year and it really does make

(00:21):
it a lot of fun. And we'll be here all afternoon. Now,
we've got a lot to talk about. Big victory for
Donald Trump today. We'll get into that today, big big
victory for him. The job report came out today, Eh,
not very good, and the market didn't like it, down
more than four hundred points. Today we'll get into that.
This case out of Georgia where the father of this
this fourteen year old kid who killed four people, including

(00:44):
two students, has now been charged in this case, and
we'll get into that and get your reaction to that.
So we've got a lot to get to today. But
the fun is we're outside. It's the annual Greek Festival
and we've got delicious food staring us in the face.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Staring up, maybe staring you in the face, in my.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Face, it's in your face. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
I have two bytes left of this. What is this
called again, George? What did George say?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's called spanacopia?

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Okay, you said whatever it is? There is there no meat,
and it tastes like it has some meat. Like, Oh,
it's so good. Whatever this pastry is, with whatever's inside
of it, I'm having fun.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Oh, I love that.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's good. It's good. As a matter of fact. Now
we have one other thing we need to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I think we have one pair of tickets left. Yeah,
and one pair of tickets left to see Tucker Carlson
and Glenn Beck over at the Delta Center tomorrow night.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Now, this is a tight venue. There's a tight this.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
This, this contest has been narrowed down to the very person.
I've had so many listeners that have been reaching out,
even informally, saying, hey, give me some tickets. I'll even
pye them, I'll buy them, and we can't. I mean,
they've been so tight.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Well, the thing is, the thing is we'll have we'll
have two tickets to give away plus dinner with you
and I tomorrow night, and should we mentione what we're
also going to do.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I think we've been talking about this special tree for
two broadcasts.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Now we can finally explain it.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, we have been able to arrange for our winners
and our special guests who are coming tomorrow a meat
and greet with Glenn Beck. With Glenn Beck tomorrow at
the Grand America, I think tomorrow. So we've got to
meet and greet. There's more food coming here.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
You hear that, folks? Well that that is the greatest
news for our listeners. The greatest news for us is
these Euros have arrived.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Look at this.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
I'm so happy.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Oh it's gonna be a They keep on bringing us food.
We can't turn it down. We have to be so distracted. Jess,
what am I supposed to do? Either?

Speaker 2 (02:35):
You're a veteran, You're a broadcasting veteran.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Me.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
I'm just here. I don't know what's more important, the
food or the show.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, it's a little bit of the show first and
the food second.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Please, when are we going to commercial?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Not for.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
All?

Speaker 5 (02:49):
Right?

Speaker 1 (02:49):
We've got a lot to talk about today. Shall we
start off? Can we get focused now?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Did you even tell what about our special treat because
as soon as the Euros arrived.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I couldn't we have your rosy and Georgian's bringing this
food all day today. That's at Glenn Beck. Yeah, let's
talk about Glenn Beck. We have arranged for our winners
to go to a meet and greet with Glenn Beck.
And if you've never met gleg and he's a great guy.
We'll have some time to be with Glenn.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
And folks, we're not talking in some giant arena.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
We're talking at this This is very just this, very
with us.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You'll get to talk, have your picture taken with Glenn.
It's just shot. So that's what the winners get. But
we have another winner tonight. Yes, so sometimes tonight we're
going to give that away. And so we've got a
lot to do today and it's great to be with you.
All right, let's start off and talk about the election
for a few minutes, shall we can? The can the
news media in this country today? Greg embarrassed themselves anymore

(03:46):
than they're doing again.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, they're shameless.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
They think they're going to get away with it until
they get caught. And the only reason they're getting caught
are programs like ours. But also savvy people online that
are catching them screenshotting stories that they're in this case,
the AP is trying to push out that is patently
and verifiably false, that puts JD. Vance in the worst
light possible. And as soon as their hand is caught

(04:10):
in that cookie jar, they erased the they raised the post.
Without that scrutiny, they would treat the people like sheep
old and they would just do it over and over.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, here's what happened. He was at an event yesterday
talking about the tragic school, the tragic school's shooting, and
what he brought up was the fact that he said,
this is a fact of light. Now, the media took
that comment totally out of context. Greg as you well know,
don why do you let you hear what JD Vans
said yesterday and how the media treated this earray play

(04:40):
that JD Vans quit if you would.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
I don't like this, I don't like to admit this.
I don't like that this is a fact of life.
But if you're if you are a psycho and you
want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are
soft targets and we have got a bolster security at
our schools. So that a person who walks through the
front door, we've.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Got a bolster of security, so that.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
If a psycha wants to walk through the front door
and kill a bunch of children, that they're not able to.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Now here's what the media did with this. The AP
picked up on this story right away, and the AP
puts out a text and the other major newspapers and
media outlets in this country say, JD Van said school
shootings are a fact of life. No, he did not
say that. JD Van said it's part of life. JD
Van says, this is what we don't want to have
happened in this country. But of course, going against Donald

(05:32):
Trump and JD Van's they come out school shootings are
effective life. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Then the takeaway is supposed to be that he just says, oh, well,
shrugged his shoulders in the most callous way.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
That that if you listen to the quote, if you
listen to him, which we just played, he's saying, there's
these schools are soft targets and we've got to change that.
That is that is the entire point in that comment.
When the when AP was caught doing this, they immediately
took it down you have to. Yeah, but it was
shot it so we can talk about it now. And
the reason why we need to talk about it is

(06:04):
you need to be really you have to scrutinize where
you're getting information, how we're getting information. I will I
might just say every day till the election's over that
you have a new framed narrative that if you talk
about the immigration, illegal immigration, if you talk about inflation
and how it's impacting families and people, there is a
narrative out there from the DJ that you might be

(06:24):
spreading Russian disinformation. So just know when we talk about
these things, there are people that would like all of
these and all the things that Jade Bants is saying
on the campaign trail, things that we're speaking about right now,
they'd love to have it barred. They would like this
speech to be something you're not allowed to say.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, well this is you know, the AP force to
delete this tweet. I mean, if we aren't vigilant and
stay on top of the legacy media and saying you're
wrong here, they'll get away with it. And that's what
we've got to stew.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
And we dive into these headlines so we have later
on this program.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I think was coming up. I think it's probably next
is it next hour?

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Next staff hour? Yeah, we want to talk about the
flip flops or.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
No, we have this this the person is talking.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
About the police shooting. You know, what's going on and
what happened there? Yes, yeah, so we'll talk about that. Well,
what is what has Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota
done to try and dismantle the electoral college rather important
element when it comes to the election this year. Joining
us on our newspaper line to talk about that is
Trent England. He is founder of Save our States. Trent.

(07:25):
Always great to have you back on the show. Thanks
for joining us this afternoon. Trent.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, very glad to be here.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (07:32):
All right, Trent. What is Timmy Walls up to when
it comes to the electoral college.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
Well, as you say, he's cut from the same cloth
as Harris is.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
And you know, this is just one more example of that.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
There's a campaign that is actually run out of San
Francisco called the National Popular Vote Campaign, and they are
trying to get states to manipulate the Electoral College in
hopes of forcing it to rubbers ste amp the popular
vote result. So you know, basically trying to make sure
that candidates like Hillary Clinton and Al Gore never lose again.

(08:07):
And they've been going around to blue states and getting
them to sign on. They've actually got seventeen states to
sign on to this, and one of the most recent
was Tim Walls Minnesota. And the ironic thing in Minnesota
is that even some of the Democrats in the legislature
were against the against this effort to manipulate the electoral College,

(08:30):
but they bundled it into an omnibus spending bill. So
they put it in this three hundred page bill, this
you know, effort to to hijack the electoral College in
order to get it to Tim Walls's desk where he
signed it. So, I mean, he is right there at
the forefront of trying to take apart our constitution.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
You know, trying I'll come clean.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I used to be a for I'm a former lawmaker,
and I have to say, in my earlier days of
public service, I'm no longer a recovering public servant. Now
this this this effort came to Utah and they made
a very they made this compelling case and they used
like a Pennsylvania for example, that Philadelphia and Pittsburgh would
vote for the Democrat, but everything in the middle would
vote and that you would get a Republican governor, which

(09:12):
there was a Republican governor, Tom Corbett at the time.
But and it looked, it looked intriguing, It looked like
every state could get a lot of attention if he
did it that way. But I, you know, after the
sugar high went away, I we really looked at it,
and we decided collectively as a body that there's no
way we would ever want to interrupt our a republic
form of government or our electoral college. Here's what's scary

(09:35):
from the and this was probably over a decade ago
that I saw this. What's scary now are these megatropolis
is that even with the electoral college, it can there's
so many votes in Fulton County, it runs the risk
of canceling out the collective will of every other county
in Georgia. I guess, I guess my worry is how
do we make sure that we're seeing you know, voter integrity,

(09:57):
seeing the election, seeing voter turn out throughout state, so
that our electoral college stays what it is and that
these large megatropolis don't carry the day.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, and that's exactly right.

Speaker 7 (10:08):
I mean, the irony is that a lot of people
in a lot of states say, I sure wish we
had an electoral college at the state level to try
to create some balance in.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
States like.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
You know, you know, you see all these states, right,
I mean, a lot of states that are supposedly blue.
It's really it's really a red state with a couple
of blue cities that wind up controlling everything. That The
good thing about the electoral college is that at least
it contains any concerns about fraud or just you know,
we see sometimes just the worst kind of mismanagement in

(10:40):
the way some of these cities handle elections. At least
the electoral college contains it in individual states. And the
states where you know that wind up being pivotal are
states that tend to have, you know, some political balance.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Right.

Speaker 7 (10:54):
So You've got Republicans in Georgia that have made a
lot of positive changes to election laws there, and you
know they're still fighting that fight right now with the
Georgia Board of Elections making some additional changes. Is just
try to make sure that you don't have Fulton County,
you know, doing things that cast the whole result into doubt.

(11:15):
But no, that's the genius of the electoral college. It
really does use each state like the watertight compartments on
an ocean liner, so that you know, if you have
a problem in just one state, it doesn't sink the
whole ship.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Trent, final question for you, should Kamala Harris and Timmy
Walls be elected President of the United States? And knowing
that they have got to pay attention to what the
social progressives, the far left progressives in their party one,
do you see a renewed effort over the next four
years to dismantle the electoral college?

Speaker 7 (11:44):
I think that's I think that's exactly right. I mean,
you know, it is so dangerous the idea that either
one of these people would be at the top of
the executive branch in DC, because I think unlike Joe Biden, right,
I mean, Biden has been, you know, sort of bounding
to the left because he just sort of goes along

(12:05):
to get along, right, I don't think when you look
at Joe Biden's record, he's ever been a principled politician.
But right now we have two people leading the Democratic
ticket who are principled progressives.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Right.

Speaker 7 (12:16):
These people are are hardcore trying to march our country
to the left. It is a different kind of danger
than we have seen from even the Biden administration. I
think it's it's a real threat to our constitution.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Trent Anglen, founder of Save our States. Trent, thank you
for joining us on the program today and keep up
the good work.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
Always a pleasure in Joyce and blah bla bah.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
We will we willing, Trent, folks.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
When we come back, I will have eaten more food.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I don't even know what's up next to a break
because I'm just.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Going to go back to this food.

Speaker 8 (12:49):
I was.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
So But you want to hang on. We got a
great power pack show for you.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
We got We're here live at the Greek Festival right
down here in Salt Lake City on two hundred West
and about.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
We're here right up in till seven o'clock tonight. The
crowds are starting to build. They are they will only
get bigger over the next two or three days.

Speaker 3 (13:06):
You know, Rod, you know what the number one issue
I think confronting us right now.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Was eating all the food that George is giving us.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Napkins.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
That's that is our number one issue is napkins. Okay,
I I am, I am dripping, I am eating napkins.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
I know there's a lot going on with an election,
but that's my number one issue right now.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
You know what's kind of funny? Food shows up and
guess who shows up with it? Sterling Polson. I know, yeah, Sterling.
The foods here and Sterling shows up.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
And surprise, he looks like and he's just down, and
I'm like crazy.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
All right, let's continue talking about the campaign for a
little bit. Kamala Harris slipped again today. Remember when she
used to say she used to say she was opposed
to straws, she didn't like plastic straws. Well, apparently today
she's changed her mind and says, now I like plastic
straws and I'm not going to ban them.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
The liberal website Axios, every single issue that they love
that she supported, she has abandoned to them, and so
they're not going down without a fight. They are just
out there listing all the things she's running away from
that they wanted her to promote.

Speaker 1 (14:11):
Yep Isaac Sure is a staff writer with Media I
joining us on the show right now to talk about
her flip flops and how they how insulting the art
to the American people, and I agree with you on this, Isaac.
Thanks for joining us. What you know, another flip flop today?
I guess are we going to see a flip flop
dejure almost every day? Isaac? That's right.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
It's been quite the first month of the Hairs campaign.
It certainly looks a lot different from her twenty twenty campaign,
where she endures basically every radical idea under the sun.
This time she's retracting all those positions. But she's not
coming out and saying it herself, right. She's not coming
out in saying, you know, I got over way out

(14:52):
over my seas in twenty twenty, and you know, after
serving as vice president for four years, I have a
better grasp on how we can address all the issues
in a more prudent way. She's not doing that. Instead,
she's having anonymous spokespeople, you know, kind of subtly retracted
tell the craft that she's retracting all these positions but

(15:13):
not providing any details on what her new ones are
and kind of just trusting the media to run with
her narrative.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
You know, Isaac, you brought a really good point up
in this article. That there isn't any context behind and
it's a third party. It's almost an edict. It's theah's
staff that will inform the media what her position is
that's changed, but not specifically what it is going forward.
I think my question, just you as an observer watching this,
tracking it, articulating it as well as you have, is
she going to get away with this throughout this campaign?

(15:42):
This is she must not be able to lose a
single voter from either side of the political spectrum, so
she doesn't want to get specific.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But is that a winning formula in your mind?

Speaker 4 (15:52):
I mean, I think it depends. I think that by
and large, and there are some exceptions, right. I think
Alex Thompson over at Actios has been a really good
job keeping on the Harris campaign about the lack of specificity.
There's a few others, but I think by and large,
the mainstream media is really just hurting her talking points.

(16:12):
I think what's going to be determinative of whether the
strategy works is how the Trump campaign highlights it, because
I don't think the media is going to effectively point
out all of these retractions, the lack of specificity. I
think it's really going to come down to the Trump
campaign whether they can hone in on it, and especially

(16:33):
if Donald Trump can focus on it in the upcoming
debate next week, that is really going to be a critical,
critical moment in this race. You know, there's always a
lot of conversation about how much the debates matter. I
think this year, with just how close the selection is
and also the fact that Harris is really an undefined candidate,

(16:54):
she only appeared on the scene a month and a
half ago, I think the debate is going to be
absolutely critic and it's going to be if Trump wants
to win, he's really gonna have to stay on message
and hammer her on these substance of points.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Isaac, what about this tactic that her campaign is using
where she's not coming out and saying she's flip flopping,
she's having an operative do that for her instead. What
what do you make of that, Isaac?

Speaker 4 (17:21):
I mean, it's completely unconvincing. And what she's hoping to
avoid is any clips of her herself, you know, kind
of retracting these statements, because if there are clips of
her doing that, that's going to circulate on social media,
that's going to circulate on progressive media platforms. And people

(17:41):
are going to be angry about it. They the progressive
wing of the Democratic Party is pretty unforgiving, so she's
trying to avoid that, and at the same time, she's
kind of also trying to wink at moderate She's trying
she's just expecting the press to repeat her talking points. So,

(18:03):
I mean, it's a really I have to give it
to her. I mean, it's not the worst strategy. I
think it's actually been pretty effective to this point, but
it's not a very honorable one and it's not one
that should endear her to voters who are really paying attention.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
You know, there's I just saw on x it says
that and this actually from Axios surpresently, but it says
Vice President Harris's track record provides tea leaves for her
potential cyber agenda te So now we're down to reading
tea leaves. We don't have any kind of articulated position,
so we're just out exploring tea leaves. So my only
comparison to what we're seeing right now, and this is

(18:39):
this is to the point that you've made about can
Trump really highlight and bring to the American Americans attention
that she's not she's trying to just wink and not
her way through, which shouldn't be good enough to be president.
But my my question is, just like when the indictments
were handed down for Trump, and as much as the
media one to condemn the President Trump, these convictions and
all that, the American people didn't feel right. It didn't

(19:03):
sit right with the American people. And you saw his
numbers grow as you saw these indictments come down and
you saw these court cases happen. My question is, even
if Trump does his level best, but let's say he's
getting out spent by Kamala, is there just a collective
eye roll or is there just something unsettling about a
candidate who isn't presential enough to actually articulate these positions.

(19:26):
Will that happen organically or will it require Trump's campaign
to really highlight it?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Do you think?

Speaker 4 (19:34):
So that is a tough question. I mean, in my view,
you know, hers had this burst of momentum when she
first became the de facto nominee and she kind of
surged in the polls.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
That momentum has.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Definitely stalled a little bit in recent days.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
And so.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
I think that if Trump can come out and even
if it's not you know, some RELLI debate performance. If
he can get the message home even a little bit
at the debate, that's going to be a huge help
to him. What she's coming on him to do is
to do what he did in the first debate in
twenty twenty and constantly interrupt her b come across as

(20:18):
just unsuited to the office, so that the messaging is important.
For Trump, the messaging is absolutely important. He has to
hammer her on these key issues and all the flip flops.
But even bigger than that, maybe is presenting himself in
a presidential manner.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Isaac, thanks for joining us, Isaac shure. He's a staff
writer a media talking about Harris and her diss on
as flip flops and I think kind of insulting to
the American people. And we'll continue here on the Rod
and Gregg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.
Can Orre simply a delight to be here today at
the forty seventh annual Salt Lake City Greek Festival. The crowds,
the lines are starting to get longer. Greg. We've had

(20:57):
a few people come by and say Hi. They're waving
to you, not me. But it's just it's nice to
be out among the peeps and we really like it.
It is.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
It's a great crowd, a lot of energy. Everyone loves.
Everybody knows the secrets out. This is not a secret.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
The food is delicious, dancing, all the music, it's it's
just a it's a blast.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I want to learn how to do some of that
Greek dancing, I think, And I think, well, you.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Know what I'd really like for you to learn how
to do the.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Gree Yeah, that's what I would like.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'd like to see you on that stage right now.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, yeah, I bet you would. Well, he had Donald Trump. Yes,
he's having a good week, I think, and he's ending
He's capping off the week with some good news coming
out of a New York courtroom today, especially that marsh
isn't it Marshan Mars the judge, such a jerk as
his daughter is totally up to her ears and partisan politics.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
And you just thought he was going to get out
there and put some sentence out there, either Locke put
him in the clink or create a countdown of when
he had to go in. And he has delayed that decision.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
He's postponed it. It was supposed to be on September eleventh. Yeah,
that got a little delayed. Yes, yeah, you think.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
So.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Now he's put it after the election. Now, let me
paint you a scenario here, Greg, Okay, Donald Trump wins
the election, he is the next president of the United States,
and two weeks later he's supposed to be sentenced because
he's a convicted villain. What do you think the judge
is going to do? Then?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
I think they all go away and they realize that
this law fair of our Justice Department contributed to people
rallying right.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
It really was.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
There were people that loved President Trump's his term, but
him he himself. They were like, uh, what about DeSantis?
When they started this attack on him, we all felt like,
if they're going after him, he's going to go after us.
And it really coalesced that support Democrats will have to
take some inventory then and realize they contributed to his victory. Now,

(22:50):
if he loses by hook or crook, however that would happen,
I think he'll go oh, they'll throw him in the
clink and Nanos really, oh yes, they will. There will
be any one in that DJ that would do otherwise
it will be a farce if he loses.

Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yet, so you think if he loses, the judge will
feel empowered to send him somewhere.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
He'll get the orders from on high. Get this guy,
throw him in.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It will be a done deal. But if he wins,
then they're then they all have to humble.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Would you see a scenario like this, he loses, Okay,
Hunter is given a sentence. Joe Biden at the end
of his term, pardons both Donald Trump and Hunter.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
But there's no way.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'm with you. I agree with you. I think he's
going to pardon Hunter.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Oh, he absolutely.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I think he will do that, even though he said
in an ABC interview several months ago he would not
pardon the Hunter. But I think he will. But I
think they just want to do anything to get Donald
Trump behind bars.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Well, they didn't really have any choice with Hunter, because
they did if they had a trial, then we would
know all this cd ye And I'm seeing unseemly details
of their financial arrangements which he didn't pay taxes on,
which actually splash all over were Joe Biden and his brother.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
They couldn't have that.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
And so I'm sure that Hunter talked to Dad and said, look,
we don't have to do any of this.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
I'll play guilly, but you get me.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Out of this, Yeah, you get me out.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
And that's what's gonna happen. But Donald Trump, heavens no.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
They that Trump arrangement syndrome is so that it's so
deep seated they would never ever part just embedded in
their brands straight.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
They just can't get rid of it. And unfortunately, you know,
but there have been some victories for Donald Trump, and
another one today pushing it past the election.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
I think the irony is I think these Democrats are
creating these victories for Donald Trump. I think I love
that that Kamala Harris didn't pick Governor Shapiro from Pennsylvania,
where she's currently losing in Pennsylvania, because they don't identify
with her.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
They're not coalescing writer.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
But he was Jewish, Yeah, and she thought, oh, I
don't want to lose Michigan.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Well, she's not even doing well in Michigan anymore.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, there are a couple of stories circulating out there
that within the campaign, the Harris folks are saying, we
may have made a mistake here with old Timmy. It's
something because Timmy couldn't even respond to the you know,
the uh, the the hostages being killed by Hamas. He
couldn't answer that question.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
He just walked away, and he said they actually had
a reason to be upset, to be he actually legitimized
them to some degree.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
The point is that's a self inflicted wound. Yeah, they
keep the cringing.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Wounds and we love it, all right, Mark, coming up,
we're all talking about what has happened in that Georgia
High school shooting. I get your reaction to that, coming
up on the five o'clock hour on the Rotten Greg Show.
To stay with here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine. Can that's just been accused of not mentioning
your name.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
I heard it, you heard it.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm not trying to cut you out of things.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Queen Bee sending me her menu choice like I got instructions.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Now as to what to get to take home.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, but Greek based baked pasta dish.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Yes, that's very good, soasagna like thing.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Yes, yeah, that's it. You said it, all right, Queen Bee.
I got the orders.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
I got it, you.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Got it all right. Now we have something, you know,
we've we've given way tickets to see the Tucker and
Glen tomorrow. But we're here at the festival and we
thought we'd treat festival goers. Yes, so if you buy
a ticket before you purchase your food, come to our location.
We're in the south end of the huge tent that
they set up here, and we have thirty dollars food

(26:15):
vouchers to give away.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I yes, if you are here, if you plan to come,
or if you didn't plan to come here, get in here,
get to the Greek Festival, find us at.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Our booth and yeah, we'll we'll give you a look,
we got something for you.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Yeah, because we look after you. We do what we do.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
You'll be as distracted as I am.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
As soon as you get in here and you get these,
you won't listen to the show.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
You'll be eating like I am listening to the show.
I'm having a hard time concentrating.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah I am, But you do that every day more so. Now,
all right, let's talk more about a more serious subject,
the high school shooting in Georgia. Four people did, including
two students. The shooter. He is fourteen years old. He
appeared in court today and the new twist on this
now is that his father has also been charged in

(27:01):
connection with these shootings. I can think of only one
other case that was a case in Michigan with a
Crumbly family where the parents had been charged in connection
with the school shooting. So this is rare, but it's
becoming almost a little more.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
And this story and I don't know how comm I
don't know these these school shooting stories and shooters stories
well enough to know, but this is very complicated in
terms of the home life. Sounds like the kid lived
in a very abusive environment, as grandmother's saying that, at
least publicly while condemning him, by the way, But I
do think it's worth delving into in terms of the circumstances,

(27:35):
the charges that have been the leveled against the sailant
as well as the father, and also our schools.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
What's happening to our schools?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Well, let's get into this right now. Joining us on
our Newsmaker line is retired Sergeant Betsy Smith. Betsy is
a spokesperson for the National Police Association. Betsy, great to
have you on this show tonight. Betsy. What makes this
case in Georgia different from other cases involving schools? What
makes this case so different in your opinion.

Speaker 10 (28:03):
Well, I think when we look at this situation in Georgia,
this young man really and truly was failed by virtually
every adult in his life. So this is a this
is a not a non typical situation of a kid
who has terrible problems at home, you know. But it

(28:25):
looks like, you know, although some will argue that dad
was at least trying to do some of the right
things for this kid, although buying him an ar platform
rifle was a really stupid move on his part. But
you know, mom is absent when you know, she's not
being arrested or being addicted to drugs or alcohol. She's

(28:47):
locking him out of the house and doing things like that.
And dad talked.

Speaker 11 (28:52):
To the police last year about this kid.

Speaker 10 (28:54):
Being picked on and and so Dad was trying to
do things with him. Get him out into the woods,
go dear hunting, positive activities, get him away from the
video games, which is one of the things that the
police officers suggested to the dad last year. I also
think when we look at this case, we typically often hear, oh,

(29:16):
he was on the FBI's radar, But when you find
out what actually happened, the FBI did the right thing.
Made an attempt to track down a very convoluted online
potential threat, turned it over to local law enforcement. Local
law enforcement did everything that they could do. They went,
they talked to the kid, they talked to the dad,

(29:36):
they talked about firearms. The kid never confessed to making
any kinds of threats, and these online cases are difficult
to prove, so a lot of things happen that could
have prevented this. The shooting ultimately lies partially with the parents,
but primarily with a fourteen year old young man who
made a decision to act in an evil manner and

(29:58):
become a murderer.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
So you just explained that it's like an onion.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
There's just so many layers you're pulling it off, and
it sounds like, I mean, the grandmother has said it
was a nightmare upbringing and a home life that was
contributing to She doesn't justified what's happened and condemns it,
but says there's more to that story. But as you
hear the trouble even within the relationship of his mom
and dad, they're getting evicted from their home. There, all
of that is going on. Do you think that these

(30:24):
charges that were that that the father received yesterday. Is
that something that you would expect and you think is
normal course or do you think that that that that
might be over an overreach.

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Well, we're seeing a trend now since the Crumbly case
in Michigan where we saw the parents not just charged
but convicted of aiding and abetting their son. Now they
really did some acts in furtherance, you know, purchased that firearm,
it would appear, for the purpose of that kid shooting

(30:59):
up his school. This situation. I don't know that these
all of these charges are going to stick, but I
think what the prosecutors trying to do is do everything
they can to make sure that whoever is responsible for
this shooting pays for it in criminal court. I think

(31:24):
some of the charges are a bit of an overreach,
but we shall.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
See in this case. I mean, if you're a parent
out there right now and you've got a troubled kid,
you know you've got some challenges with the child, and
you see what's happening here, I mean, what do you do?
I mean what can be done? If anything?

Speaker 10 (31:45):
Well, first and foremost, you get any weapons away from them.
You get firearms away from them, but you get them
away from video games, you get them away from their smartphone,
you get them into counseling, all of those logical things
that a normal parent would do. Unfortunately, this was a
very abnormal situation. And you know, we have a mental

(32:11):
health crisis in this country. You know, we've got to
we've got to admit that we don't know what kind
of medication this young man was on. We don't know
if he was abused, you know, in some other manner
other than mom locking him out. But as a parent,
if you have a troubled teenager, and there are tens
of thousands of them in this country, you need to

(32:33):
do everything you can to make sure that they're getting
the right kind of counseling and that you're monitoring what
they're doing online. This kid made his allegedly made threats
last year on his discord account. I'm going to guess
that ninety percent of parents listening have no idea what
that is. Find out what it is, you know, stop

(32:56):
worrying about Facebook and Instagram when it comes to your teenager,
and know what they are doing on social media, know
who they are communicating with, know what they think, spend
time with them. You both need to get out of
your phones and spend time with each other. Now, for

(33:18):
parents who aren't having problems with their kids but are
worried about school shootings, you need to go to your
kids' school, school board meetings, meet with the principal, whatever
you need to do to demand that your kids school
is hardened. We have got to harden the targets that
are buildings containing our children. Nobody, not one of us

(33:42):
listening here, can probably go to a city council meeting
into a courtroom. You certainly can't go into the legislature
without passing through metal detectors and encountering an armed guard,
an armed police officer. Why aren't we doing that for
our children?

Speaker 3 (33:58):
And that goes right to the question I was about
ask Sergeant Smith. Because in the state of Utah, where
we've been looking at, the state's been looking at this
legislature pass some sweeping legislation last year. It's not completely funded,
so it's a bit of a challenge on what they
call school resource officers. And up until last this year
or even right now, these have been law enforcement officers.
But because there's an employment problem, it's it's it's a

(34:20):
challenge for workforce. They're looking at a guardians that would
be volunteer that would be in this position. Is but
a lot of these things are happening from within the school.
Maybe the metal detectors of the students coming in is
how you would address it. But I was going to
ask you, is there a way where we can secure
these schools where we could prevent more than they would

(34:40):
be happening? At least now these these these shootings and
these tragedies from happening. Do you see a system or
something that could be put in place to make these
schools more secure?

Speaker 10 (34:52):
Absolutely? Think about it. For anybody who's been to traffic
court or divorce court or whatever, you can't get into
that courtroom without passing through multiple security issues. I know
it's inconvenient, and I know there's a theory that all
we don't want to make school like prison, But we
all got used to the TSA, didn't we in our airports.

(35:12):
We're all used to going through security when we go
to the legislature or a county board meeting or into
traffic court. We just have to understand that we live
in a violent society and we've got to deal with
the reality of it until we can change it. And
how do you change it, you vote. You know, we

(35:34):
have got to We have an opportunity in November to
say goodbye to the pro criminal atmosphere in this country.
We have an opportunity to say goodbye to woke prosecutors
and go back to admiring police and uplifting the law
enforcement profession and using our constitutional criminal justice system in

(35:59):
the way that the founders intended. We're going to have
to punish aberrant behavior. That's what we're seeing in Georgia.
Aberrant behavior is being punished. Likely that kid is never
going to see the lae of to day. We've got to
punish aberrant behavior like carjackings and armed robberies and all
of that as well. We got to go back to
a law and order society for everyone.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Boy, Amen to that, sergeant, Thank you that as retired
sergeant Betsy Smith. She is a spokesperson for the National
Police Association. Well, we come back. You know, this is
the second cage that I recall now, Greg, we'll being
a school shooting which the parents have been implicated in
this and charged in this. They had the one in Michigan.
Is it the right thing to do?

Speaker 3 (36:42):
Yeah, you know, as the circumstances are better understood some
of these parents.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I mean, I don't know why you're buying.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Your kid in the hoar. Yeah fifteen tychdown right now.
Even if you don't think that the online activity that
they looked at was him, he denied it with him
and his father believed him. I still I don't know.
I think I do think that the parents have to account.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
For some of the things going on in their own home.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Well, that's what we want to find out from you.
Your thoughts on this eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero on your cell phone the ALP pound two
to fifteen and we'll get to your phone calls coming up.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
I love it, although it has been hard to stay
focused on.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
All the delicious food they keep on bringing it.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
I know, George, he's my favorite man. Guys. Guy, he's
hooked up everywhere. He's got all the food coming our way.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Yeah, he sure does, all right. Well, before the break,
we we did an interview about the situation in Georgia
and the school shooting there. A fourteen year old has
now been charged, hasn't officially been charged yet, but you
know he'll be charged with murder. Two teenagers dead, two
teachers dead, yes, and his father. This one broke late
last night. His father has been now charged with involuntary

(37:49):
manslaughter and second degree murder. This is the second time
I can remember where a parent or parents have been
charged with in relationship to a shooting and their son
was involved in. And we want to get your reaction
to that. Is this a trend that scares people? Are
you a little concerned about this? If you listen to
a Sergeant Smith's interview a moment ago, he had a

(38:12):
rough life. I mean it was it was tough in
his home, and she talks about that as well well.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Sergeant Smith also said to parents, you know, get to
know your kids, know what they're doing, Understand what they're
doing in their lives. I mean, I I do think
there's responsibility with these parents. I'd love to know what
our listeners think because we're all either have been parents,
our parents have had parents. So so what what say
you folks? Eight eight eight five seven zero eight zero

(38:38):
one zero is the number to call? I just like
your because that is, like like you point out, Rod,
that's a change where now they're holding parents more responsible.
But look, as a parent, and I was lucky to
have good kids, and I, you know, maybe maybe I'm
just I don't understand the challenges, but I do think
there's responsibility to some level.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
You're buying your kids guns.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
You've had this issue about cool shooting coming up in
the in the at least discussion with the FBI, for
having's sake. What It's easy to have hindsight, being twenty twenty,
but I'd like to know how people would would if
they think this is right or if this is wrong.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Well, let's go to the phones right now and find out.
We begin with Jared, who's in bottleful tonight here on
the Rod and Greg Show. Jared, how are you? Thanks
for joining us tonight.

Speaker 11 (39:21):
I'm good.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
How are you? We're doing well? Thank you?

Speaker 10 (39:27):
On the school.

Speaker 11 (39:27):
Shooting, Yeah, I think the parents should take responsibility, but
I think they kind of overboarded it by chargeans the
dad with the second degree murder. He's both likely could
spend the rest of his life in prison to that.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Yeah, that's right. Well, I think the charges to me,
and I think Sergeant Smith alluded to this, they do
appear to be a bit excessive. But we'll have to
wait and say this is typical of what prosecutors do
sometimes overcharge knowing those charges will be drawn down a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
I agree with that with George on this that that
it looks like these are they have overcharged the crime.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
But I don't know.

Speaker 10 (40:07):
I'm not.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
I'm not I'm not a county attorney. I'm not a prosecutor.
I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I'm watching this from afar like everyone else.

Speaker 11 (40:16):
That thing about it is, is uh, what the Democrats
get away with. If I've done half the stuff they do,
come on with Joe Biden. They might be a prison
can seriously do it right out there so you can
see what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
They're not afraid about it. You're right about that, Jared.
Thank you. Let's go to Charlie and Orum and see
what Charlie has to say on this subject tonight, Charlie,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. On this Thank
Rod and Greg Is Friday. Thanks guys. Very jealous of you, guys.

Speaker 6 (40:45):
I grew up in Chicago and they have a phenomenal
Greek town, so I'd be right next to Greg right now.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Just challenge well I did, Charlie, I did not realize
that this man could eat as much food as he
has been beating in the last hour.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Can't stop. I just can't stop. Yeah, thank you, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
That's the funny thing about Greek food. That's the funny
thing about Greek food is that it has it has
this ability to make your capacity grow. Anyway, the thing
I was really calling about, the thing I was really
calling about, is just that, you know, yes, I think
parents should be ultimately responsible and they should be engaged
in their children's lives. Whether this guy was overcharged or
not and yet to be seen. But I think the

(41:24):
important thing to look at is that society is creating
all kinds of reasons right in schools in particular, are
creating all kinds of reasons for parents to be disintermediated
from their kids. So, you know, you have the whole
you know, uh, sexual orientation thing going on in schools,
you have the not telling parents, you have you know,

(41:44):
you know, kids can change their names without their parents'
knowledge and the school's not obligated to tell them.

Speaker 10 (41:49):
All of this.

Speaker 6 (41:50):
Stuff compounds into things where kids just feel they don't
even know where to go anymore. So I just feel like,
you know, we can't be pointing all the fingers at
the at the parents. I think schools and society have
a lot to do with it as well.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Charlie, you bring up an incredibly I don't know why
I didn't connect those dots, but you're exactly right. You
have a system that is really trying to separate the
children from minor.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Children from their parents, from their.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Permission on life changing operations, transitions, whatever you call it,
and that is a there's a broad and really organized
efver to do that. And then you have a tragedy
or horrific issue like this and we come.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
Straight to the parents. We need it one way or
the other.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
And I think with the parents ought to be in
charge and responsible. And I'm on the same side Charlie's
on there, but you look at how these schools are
doing exactly as he's described.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Well, if you if you're a school, isn't it to
today a point where if you're at a school, you're
let's say you're a school nurse, you have to contact
the parent to give your that student an aspirin. But
now if you're if you're students at school and they
think they're of a different sex, you are not allowed
to tell the parents that something's wrong here, isn't absolute Charlie,

(43:03):
Thank you appreciate your phone call. All right, More of
the Roddick Gregg Show coming up live from the Salt
Lake City Greek Festival right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine k n r S, broadcasting live
today from the forty eighth Daniel, Salt Lake City Greek
Do you want to lay down, take a nap?

Speaker 2 (43:20):
I'm getting the meat sweats.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, you want to lay down to Yeah, I'm eating
all this lamb, I mean all this me.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
I can't stop delicious, delicious.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
George has been so good to us.

Speaker 2 (43:30):
Georgia is all right.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
We want to mention ge. We have we have some
food vouchers. Okay, we have some food vouchers.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I just want to.

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Christian, No, don't, don't keep him out a surprize. I
need them. I don't know this shows though, I'm not
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come by our locations. We're on the south end of
the big tent. They've set up here, and we've got
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Speaker 2 (43:56):
Gonna love delicious, love it if you don't come.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Yeah, all right. We had a couple couple of interesting
calls on the uh the uh perishing involved there. Yeah,
there there is something wrong and you and I have
talked about this, Greg, Uh, there's something wrong with with
young men in this country today. Boys from about twelve,
I would say, almost up to thirty.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
You know, the saying used to be let kids be kids. Okay,
you got you got a certain a window of time.
You know, we know that we know that the tobacco
industry knew that kids were dumb, and this is where
they targeted kids to smoke and get lifetime smokers, because
they could get them to start smoking when they their
decision making wasn't the strongest you want.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
To be, Maoro man, exactly where the Joe Camille.

Speaker 1 (44:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
So, so the backo industry used to target young people
for that very reason. That is exactly the same logic
we ought to apply for why we would not want
to separate children their understanding, their permission over children's decisions
about transition therapy or chemical castration, whatever it may be.
And yet we have a very strong lobby and voice

(45:04):
on the left arguing for those things, and to our
callers point, it does. They are looking to separate parents
from their children and knowledge of the parents', knowledge of
what their children's what their decisions are. And then we
all act surprised or shocked when when a kid goes
robe like that. I think he can't have it both ways.

(45:24):
I think he's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
So you can't have it, you know, I don't know
what's going to happen here with the you know, you
saw this this kid in court today hearing the charges
against him, and you're thinking, he's fourteen years old. Yeah,
he's fourteen years old.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
He has to be tried as an adult, even though
he's the furthest thing from adult, because if he's not,
he'll be done when he's eighteen, and he'll be out
if they try him in juvenile court.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
So yeah, it's a it's a terrible, terrible situation.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It is very, very difficult, that's for sure. My partner
over here is dozing off off.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I'm not dozing off.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
I got the meat, sweats and that, George. Yeah, it's
just it just keeps.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
Going delicious, delicious, all right. I want to bring this up, Greg,
I you know, I don't put a lot of faith
in this, but maybe it's starting to happen where the
media is now noticing that Kamala Harris is playing them
for fools. They're just starting to notice this, right, I mean,
there was a story today in in Axios and uh,

(46:36):
basically what they did. They finally noticed that Kamala Harris
is purposely avoiding them. Surprise surprise, right, she is avoiding them.
And I tell you what they are waking up to this.
I mean they they've They've got an article today how
Harris dodges scrutiny.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
And I love it's coming from the left because they
don't have usually they got everybody's on the same you know,
sheet of music.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
They're all singing.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
They all know they're gonna get it take it to
the rest of us. But they're all gonna pretend they're
something they're not. It's not true. Like the pro Hamas,
pro terrorist groups are still going after Kamala and Tim Walls.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
You've got Axios.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
The lefties are mad about all the flip flops and
all the stuff. They love, socialized medicine and you know,
everything under the sun, and they're calling her out on it.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
In real time. Yeah, well, here are nine areas. These
are nine areas, just so far that she's flipped flopped
on banning plastic straws, she no longer wants to do that.
A mandate for automakers to only make electric or hydrogen
vehicles by twenty thirty. She says, well, she's not for
that anymore.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Well, she didn't even say how she's not for she just.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
No, she's not for it. Banning fracking, Nope, she now
favors cracking. For that, She now favors a mandatory buyback
program of assault weapons. She's dropped that idea. Yeah, okay,
she's dropped that idea. Decriminalizing crossing the border, she no
longer supports that. Reparations for slave good luck with that
one in this country.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
She loved it before she hated it. Yeah, yeah, she
loved it before.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
She hated it. Yeah, her position now on that is unclear.
Building a wall on the southwest border.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Yeah, that vanity wall, that was the medieval vanity wall
of Trump is what she called. Now she's for it.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's for it now. Matter of fact.
She You see the story, and if we have a
chance later on, we'll let you listen to this audio.
She has a new campaign ad talking about the secure
border and building the wall. Right, Okay, you know what
she's showing in the ad a section of the wall
that Donald Trump built and she's taking credit for it.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
It's hard for it. A federal jobs guarantee. She's no
longer for that anymore. So there, they're just about eight
or nine of the positions that she used to have
that she no longer now.

Speaker 3 (48:48):
If you're listening to that and you're going, well, she's
getting sensible, She's like a fetterman.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
She's seeing the lights. She had psychiatric treatment. Now she's
kind of coming to the right side. No, she's not.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
That's why there's no specific to any of these flip flops.
She has no plan, She has no interest in actually
changing her position there. But she knows those are incredibly unpopular.
So she can't win states like Pennsylvania and maybe even
Michigane or miss Wisconsin or Nevada with those positions, and
so she has to have some vague shift away from them,

(49:19):
but she doesn't.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
She says, my values are the same.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
What happens in politics when you stand in the middle
of the road is you get hit from both sides,
and that's where she's standing right now, trying to appease
both sides because she doesn't have enough votes on one
side or the other to prevail, I don't believe. So
she's trying to be everything to everyone. She's standing in
the middle of that road. She's going to get run
right over because.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, well, according to Axio's a reporter there, she had
several sources confirmed to her that Harris made the decision
when this all started, what a month ago, six weeks
ago now, not to go too deep into specific policies
because there wasn't time. Okay, the according to this report,

(49:59):
the cam Pain needed to fundraise, reintroduce herself to America,
introduce walls, and help the Democratic ticket recover in states
where dem should win. So her philosophy is I'll keep
it vague because I've got other things that are more important.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
Now, I would argue, you have all the time in
the world because you never had to argue for one
single vote, Nope, in one single election, primary election anywhere
in America.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
You didn't have to do any of that.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
You you have been installed without any process, which everybody
else had to spend time in a Democrat or a
Republican primary.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
You have to talk to that base. You have to.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
This is where we're getting all her positions aside from
her record as a senator US senator and how she
voted and what she co sponsored, how she campaigned in
nineteen twenty nineteen, she didn't have to do any of that.
So isn't that ample time to just kind of do
you get your thoughts to get you?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Do you think? Greg? And I don't have a lot
of faith in this, But on Tuesday, the debate on
Tuesday that David Muir will ask her about these changes.
You know, I I hope he does. I mean, this
is the discussion of America needs to hear. I don't
know if it's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Well, my quick answer would have been absolutely not. They won't.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
But I tell you, when you start hearing voices from
the left getting antsy and starting to do this, they
do have cocktail parties to go to. They do have
a peer group that they like to run with. That's
how much of that are they willing to sacrifice in
Manhattan or wherever they're at to.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Help her along?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, if their peers are starting to get annoyed, or
upset by her lack of specificity. Yeah, yeah, i'd I
would love for them to actually have her, require her
to have a real answer, not just to what she's not.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
We'll have to wait and see, certainly. And we want
to remind you we'll be there on Tuesday night. We'll
be broadcasting, will carry live coverage to that presidential debate.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Can't I hope we could break in during the debate?

Speaker 1 (51:52):
You want to comment? Play?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Greg h All right, our number three Rodick Gregg live
from the Greek Fest coming out. All right, welcome back,
hour number three of The Rod and Greg Show, broadcasting
live today from the forty eighth annual Salt Lake City
Greek Fest. We've had just a marvelous time. We just
had some listeners come on by. They got twenty dollars
worth of food vouchers. We have more to give away,
so if you're coming in, get your tickets and make

(52:16):
sure you come down to our location. We're on the
south end of the the huge tent. I don't know
they made tints this big, yes, massive big. We're right
next to the cathedral, So come on by and we've
got a thirty dollars food voucher for you so you
can enjoy the food. Do you notice the lines are
getting a little bit longer.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
They are get people are getting off work coming in here,
getting a little bit longer out there.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
Yeah, getting a little bit longer. Now, let's get back
on the news of the day. The jobs report came
out today.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
It did.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
It wasn't very good.

Speaker 3 (52:47):
Now when the New York Times doesn't have anything good
to say about it, you know it's not good because
they're on an assignment to see Kamala Harris elected. So
when they're saying the economy shifted to a low gear
and it's not a go and it's the jobs are
treading water at best, yep, that's that's not.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
A good sign. Well, they were hoping for one hundred
and sixty. One thousand came in and at about eighty
nine they kind of missed the mark.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Yeah, sad, Well, let's.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
Find out more about this. Joining rths right now on
our Newsmaker line is Gary Giggy. Gary, of course a
good friend of the show. He's with Giggy Capital Management. Gary,
thanks for joining us tonight on the latest jobs report.
A lot of people are going, eh, not a really
good report. Gary, what's your take.

Speaker 8 (53:31):
You know, it's a totally interesting report, guys. The expectation
was for around one hundred and sixty five thousand jobs created.
One hundred and forty two thousand is what was the
headline number created. However, and this is a big however,
revisions to the prior two months were downward of fifty
six thousand, So when you incorporate that, excuse me, a

(53:54):
revision of eighty six thousand, So when you incorporate that
into the final number, it is fifty six thousand, which
was well short of what the expectation was. So that
is a negative. And when you dig into the weeds,
which I like to do, then you'll see that the
unemployment rate went down from four point three to four

(54:16):
point two, so you have less unemployed people. Now that
that's an interesting dichotomy because you have less unemployed people. However,
the total number of jobs created is down over the
last two months, so there's some inconsistencies there. Some of
the good stuff is that the hourly earnings they went
up point four percent in August and they're up three

(54:38):
point eight over the last year. Agrig hours that's how
many hours people are working, so that was up as
well point three percent, which means that over the last year,
people are working slightly more and they're earning slightly more.
That does contribute to inflation in that wages is one
of those sticky components that once it goes up, it's

(54:59):
hard to come down. So it's a mixed bag, if
you will, in terms of the numbers revised down as significant.
So this really begs the question the FED looks at
this and what are they going to do this month
at the FED meeting. A lot of people think they
should be lowering by a half a point rather than
a quarter of a point, and so we're all wondering

(55:21):
what's going to happen when the Fed meets this month.
They have definitely signaled that they're moving lower. It's just
a question of how much.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
So Gary, this is my question. And you referenced the
down you know they had to readjust just in that
one month. I think you said eighty six thousand jobs,
but we had the report if you take all of
the job overestimate overestimated job growth, it was like eight
hundred and eighteen thousand jobs. They had to adjust downward.
The correct the New York Times, which is usually the

(55:49):
regime media, as I call them, they're describing this as
the economy is treading water. It's now shifted into lower gear,
is how they're describing it. But when you say, look,
i'm looking at certain things. We're seeing unemployment go down,
but we're seeing these job numbers that you're just anemic.
It's an inconsistency. What would you with all the misreporting
of jobs everything out of this administration? What would you

(56:13):
attribute the inconsistencies too? Is there some reality in there somewhere?
Are they just bat at reporting?

Speaker 8 (56:19):
Well, let's just start with the eight hundred and eighteen thousand,
which and it could be as high as a million,
and that won't be decided until next February. But whatever
that number is, far more jobs were reported to have
been created than actually happened. So this adjustment to the

(56:39):
job's number does happen under every president and so that's
that's not strange. The degree to which this number is
being adjusted hasn't been done this way except back to
I think it was two thousand and four, two thousand
and five, so it's been about twenty years since there's
been this type of a revision. That is significant, And

(57:01):
answer your question.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Greg.

Speaker 8 (57:03):
People in the private sector, like myself, really wonder sometimes
about the reporting process, because there can be a job's
number that is released, and when they do the revisions,
it can be going from a positive number to a
negative number, so it isn't even in the right direction,
or it could be a negative number goes to a

(57:24):
positive again not even in the right direction. So I
like the ADP number because this is real numbers coming
from real employers, whereas the job's number that we're looking
at today it's a survey, far less scientific. So it
begs the question of how accurate the job the job's
numbers from the Labor Department really are.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Gary, one story I saw that disturbs me, and I
think it's an indication of the struggles that the American
people are facing today. The number of people now holding
two jobs just to make ends meet is going up
yet again, or on a trajectory to go upward. Gary,
that's got to be a little concerning it is.

Speaker 8 (58:04):
I saw that as well, and so so that also
begs the question, Okay, of the jobs that are created
this month, last month, whatever month we want to choose,
how many of those can be attributed to an individual
who's taking on a second job. There isn't data that
gets into the minutia like that, but it really does

(58:25):
beg that question because if people are getting a second job,
and in some cases a third job, what is the
real number of how many jobs are created to individuals
each month? And I don't know what that is?

Speaker 3 (58:38):
You know, I guess you know, we've heard there's a
lot of commentary about you know, it's an election year,
so everybody has a little bit well a lot of
people have a lot of bit of a john to
die about the numbers that are coming out and wondering
if it's only happening anything positive just because it's an
election year. But when you hear that job growth also
includes those that are not documented, jobs that are created

(59:01):
by government, not by the free market, and that that
those types of jobs are added into the mix, it
does leave you gary wondering what is the real circumstance
for the small business owners, which make up the majority
of the employers of this country. What is the environment
on the ground for real job growth, not the ones
that are from government, not the ones the jobs that

(59:23):
are being stolen, and Americans can't get jobs because they're
being others are being employed. What is your sense of
that in terms of on the ground economic growth or
job creation.

Speaker 8 (59:35):
I love the question, and my anecdotal answer is that
the small business owners that I'm talking to are struggling
and struggling in so many different ways. Sometimes it's trying
to find qualified workers, sometimes it's trying to find workers
at all. But more importantly, they're struggling to try and

(59:56):
make ends meet every month. So this this difficulty that
they're seeing, I don't think is being reported and talked
about it enough. Because large corporations are doing just fine.
Their earnings maybe less than what was expected, because we've
been in earnings reporting season, revenue maybe less than what's

(01:00:18):
been expected. Those are big companies that can withstand the
difficulties that come with economic cycles. Small mom and pop businesses,
they really can't. They don't have the capital in order
to withstand the fits and starts to come with economic
expansions and contraction. So I really feel for those folks,
and I think that they're in a more difficult situation

(01:00:41):
than then what's usually being talked about.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Gary, Thank you so much for joining us. Gary Giggy.
Of course, taking a look at the Jobless Report today.
He's from Gigge Capital Management. Always fun to talk to Gary.
He really he breaks down to the numbers and he
really gets to the critical numbers. You need to pay attention,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
And what he was saying he thought might be anecdotal,
It absolutely is not anecdotal in terms of the fate
of the of the small businesses and workers in this country,
because when we interviewed my cousin Matt from Pennsylvania, the
interaction with the small business is there. It mirrors everything
that Gary just described in terms of how hard it is.
In fact, I've got a chart here that shows that

(01:01:16):
jobs have not even come back since pre COVID, for.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
For Native American, native born American.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
In America, just the the growth and jobs have come
from those from outside the country really since COVID. And
that's and that's that's just it. It's just you know,
I think we're all feeling it. We can't articulate it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
I think this chart that I'm staring at right now
explain it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
He has gorged himself and all this delicious who now
he wants to take a nap.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
I do, I do, I'm I've said it already I
got the meats.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
What's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:47):
I'm a little tired. The only reason I know this
show's live is I see you. I see your lips moving,
so set on because I know this must be a
show happening.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Well there is. The show happens so good.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
And here's the sad part. If George comes back with
more food, I'm going to eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
Oh he's don bring back Patrice and I am.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
We have about to pass out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
We haven't had the pastries.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
You're going to pass out and I will still eat more.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I know you will. All right, Welcome back Ronning
Greg here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine KNRS.
A couple of audio soundbites I wanted you to day here.
First of all CNN, there there are how would I
describe this specs of journalism starting to take place on
some of them just a little speck, right. But on
CNN last night, I want you to hear this segment

(01:02:31):
because Aaron Burnett, who does one of the shows on CNN,
deciding to investigate Kamala Harris and her new border security ad.
Now this is the one where she is using a
section of the border wall that Donald Trump built to
say she supports something like this. Hear how CNN treated
that story last night In a.

Speaker 12 (01:02:51):
New report you'll see first out Front, The K File
team scoured Kamala Harris's tweets and statements going all the
way back to twenty seventeen. What they found was more
than fifty instances of Harris slamming Trump's border wall. But
now new Harris campaign ads actually showcase that very wall.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
As a border state prosecutor, she took on drug cartels
and jail gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across
the border.

Speaker 12 (01:03:22):
And on top of critical tweets, Harris also wrote in
her twenty nineteen book quote, there was a bigger reason
to oppose.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
The border wall.

Speaker 12 (01:03:30):
A useless wall on the southern border would be nothing
more than a symbol, a monument standing in opposition to
not just everything I value, but to the fundamental values
upon which this country was built. How could I vote
to build what would be little more than a monument
designed to send the cold, hard message keep out.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
Now that ad showed the newer section of the border
wall that Donald Trump built, And now here's Harris saying
she's in favor of this. She's showing this in her
ad because she wants to sew the American people. She
will be tough on border security, I mean, talk about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
So here's the deal. I can't I just won't believe
that they are being journalists. I think they are trying
to pull her to the left.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
I want. I think they want her to own.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
These issues that she's a spoused because that's what they agree,
that's their worldview. And I think they're trying to shame
her into or pressure her into coming back to those positions.
And uh, and this is how bad the left has gotten.
They're so disconnected from the everyday people. These journalists don't
live like we do. They have door men or women

(01:04:34):
or whatever. They have to open their doors in the apartments.
They live in New York City. They have cars, the
cars that have drivers. They don't have any touch on
this country. But they have a candidate that they thought
they had and they want that candidate's worldview to match theirs.
And her campaign's trying to explain, Yeah, but that alienates
everyone that would actually allow us to win the race.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
They can't get there.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
That's where that's where the equal librium is so off
with these folks.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Well, and the criticism she's getting is that she will
not talk about her stand on certain issues. She's very
vague on everything.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
That's correct.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
Well, that's part of the plan, Greg, I mean a
spokesman for the campaign, his name is Ian Sam's. He
appeared on CNN this week and he made excuses for
why they are not talking about her record over the
last two years. Play that sound by Mark.

Speaker 13 (01:05:22):
The Democrats have been controlled the country for the last
three going on four years, and you are still seeing
this in the polling. I mean, these working class voters
are telling us right now that more of them are
with Donald Trump than Kamala Harris. Why what is it
about what you guys have been doing for the last
three plus years that explains that?

Speaker 14 (01:05:40):
Well, I think again, we're trying to talk to the
voters and explain this message. We've got sixty days until
the election. You know, we don't have time to sit
around and think about why over the last few years
certain things may have happened or may.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
Not have happened.

Speaker 14 (01:05:52):
We've got to go win an election, and the vice
president's doing that by talking about her economic vision and
it's really different. It's really different. It's a new way forward,
not only for the Democratic Party.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
But it's really different.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Okay, wait, can you tell me what.

Speaker 13 (01:06:05):
Is really different? I got the capital gains ery, but
what else on the list makes it really different from
what was going on in the past few years.

Speaker 14 (01:06:11):
Sure, she wants to have taken into effect the first
national law to take on corporate price couching. She's talking
about holding bad corporate actors accountable for their role in
taking up prices on people at the grocery store, at
the gas pump, all across this country. There are there
are distinctions here in this candidate's message that she is
sharing with the country every single day, and she's out

(01:06:31):
there on the trail doing it while Donald Trump's talking
about trickle down economics. And so, you know, I understand
the pundit class wants to sit around and maybe have
these conversations. But at the end of the day, this
is a campaign and we're running to win, and she's
running to win, and she's talking about the economy almost
every single day on the campaign trail.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Fun I mean, they they they aren't looking at the past.
They haven't got time to look at what they done,
what they've done to this country. Because she has an
exciting new plan that includes going after companies that gouge crisis.

Speaker 3 (01:07:02):
That's called price fixing. I thought that they had abandoned
that dumb idea because it's been so universally drubbed and
it's been so universally rejected.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
But it sounds like that, No, they're still arguing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Here's the thing, and in President Trump's most former President
Trump's most recent discussions is town hall meeting when he's
talked to it, gave a speech about his economic plan.
He talks about the American dream and how to energize
the Americans again. And you know how he says he's
gonna he's gonna do it. We need lower interest rates,

(01:07:36):
we need energy independence. He talks about not not the
government's going to fix a price. The government's gonna hand
your money to buy a house. The government's gonna build
the housing, uh, whatever it may be. Every one of
Kamala Harris's answers on the economy, on economics is what
the government will.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Actually manipulate on their own.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Everything that President Trump has talked about is how Americans
can actually make a living and afford to live in.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
You quit doing all these government things.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
You're not gonna have inflation because you're gonna put money
at the rate that this last administration has done it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
So he talks about lower inflation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
The things he talks about, President Trump, about igniting this
economy are the things that everyday Americans, it should be
music to our ears to hear someone say they're gonna
leave us alone. They're gonna quit printing money, so our
money's worthless, and they're gonna let us go and let
us make our own way.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
Well, and this is what I think, this is the
choice the American people have. Great what you have in
the Democratic Party? Now, are elites well educated elites, right
or so they think they are, yes, right, tend to.

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
Be a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Little They think because they are so smart that they
can have a government that will serve people who are
don down trodden and having a difficult time. Right, So
the elites think the federal government has they answered everything,
we will take care of you. Now, the difference between
that and Donald Trump were just pointing out, I'm going

(01:09:01):
to lower everything. We're going to lower taxes, we'ren an
lower terrorists. We're gonna do this, We're going to increase
energy because then we're going to let you decide how
you want to be successful in that cat.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
It's that whole self determination.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Yeah yeah, oh that thing. Oh yeah, self What a
unique idea. But I think that's the real difference. And
you've got the elite saying we've got the answers. It's
government and we'll put together programs that will help you.
On the other hand, yeah, I have Donald Trump saying
we're going to keep our hands off you. You go
do what you think.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
It's individual liberty versus the government has to do it
because you're not smart enough or as as sophisticated as
they are to be able to self determined or to
manage your way through life. They're going to do it
for you, cradle to grave. They're going to tell you
how to live, where to live, what to do. That
They really do feel that way. That's that's not hyperbole,
that's not an over If you were to get these democrats,

(01:09:52):
these leftists on an honest day, they would tell you
they would share a general contempt or suspicion for the
public at large, and they better direct them on where
to go and how to go there because they can't
manage it on their own.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
They really believe that, whereas.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
President Trump is really in the individual liberty, self determination,
equal opportunity not equal outcome. That right there is where
they part ways, right, equal outcome versus equal opportunity. So
I just you know, I don't think she can go
anywhere on any of these positions.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
You ratted off nine today on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
She's flipped, but she hasn't flipped to a specific plan.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
She just said, well, I don't believe that anymore. Yeah, yeah,
I don't believe that either.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
That one Pennsylvania poul say they hate that, So why Yeah,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:37):
And that's not even her saying it. But yeah, that's
what I was gonna say. She's not even saying it.
What who's saying it? All her campaign officials?

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Yep, because she doesn't want it on a video. She
doesn't want the left to get more upset than they are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Too late. Again, you stand in the middle of the road,
you get hit by both sides.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
That's where she has firmly planted her flag is right
in the middle of the road.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
She's gonna get hit by both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:58):
All right, final high hour the Rod and Greg Show.
On this thank Rod and Greg is Friday. Someone suggested
today we should call it thank g Rod. It's Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yeah, that's a good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:10):
Good idea kind of catchy, thank g Rod. Is Friday?
All right? Bore coming up right here on Utah's Talk
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This is a free agent. They had to go over
there and get talked to his age. You know that
movie Jerry Maguire. They had to talk to this guy's.

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Agent, beg this man to come down to Utah and
he is now part of the Roddy Gregg Show.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
And we want to welcome Alexandro's cuts. Ronis Did I
get that fairly close?

Speaker 15 (01:12:14):
It was perfect?

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Well, it was perfect. How did you end up grief
to Salt Lake City? How did that happen? Man?

Speaker 15 (01:12:20):
Through Poland?

Speaker 16 (01:12:21):
To be honest, I was pretty there and they started
to contact me.

Speaker 15 (01:12:25):
What'tsing the games? Talking to my agent and we.

Speaker 16 (01:12:27):
Had some progress a couple of months, and then finally
in February finished everything paperwork and stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:12:33):
So I traveled here with my wife and from February.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
We are here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Oh and what do you think of Utah?

Speaker 15 (01:12:38):
Amazing?

Speaker 16 (01:12:39):
I've never been to us before. I didn't have the opportunity,
so we came here. We didn't know what to expect,
but I think is a very good place. And the
different thing is the people. Like it's very welcome. They
helped you with everything. Of course, it's helping more like
you find Greek guys here. People were, yeah, helping you more.
But yeah, I think it's a is a very good

(01:13:02):
place to live. Have you been impressed with the Greek
community here in Utah? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
They really just reached out to you and welcomed you.
With open arms.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:13:09):
Other than George, Yeah, yeah, of course I met, I met,
I met the look of people. I didn't know that
there was like so so many families here from Greece
and uh yeah, every everyone is amazing.

Speaker 15 (01:13:19):
Yeah of course except George. Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:13:21):
They helped me with everything coming here, set lean with
my house car, you know things, yeah, that you need
to first take care of and then uh and then yeah,
I'm to be honest, I didn't I didn't know that
it's so big deal, like the Greek festival here. I
also had the teammates ask me like how is it
and we want to visit and yeah, I said to

(01:13:42):
my wife like we need to, we need to go,
We need to see what's happening there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
Yeah, I'm so glad you're here. I'm so glad you
joined us. How's the team, like, are you running it?
Are you the captain? Are you the posy?

Speaker 15 (01:13:53):
Of course no, of course no.

Speaker 16 (01:13:56):
As you said, is a team like everybody has a
role there and you know the opportunities you have there.
And we have a very good season so far, and
I hope, I hope we're going to finish the season
much better than we are now. And why not to
to bring a trophy here in Utah or.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
We love that. I love to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
You have to ask you. We have hundreds of thousands
of kids in America who play soccer. They love soccer football,
so to speak. Right, but for some reason, the US
can't compete on the international stage. I mean, we just
can't make it work. Why not? I mean, what is
the difference? Do you think?

Speaker 15 (01:14:31):
I think us, to be honest, improve a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Yeah, we're coming along.

Speaker 16 (01:14:37):
So I think when you see something, to have progress
and you become better. So the steps that you're doing there, right,
so you have to move in this direction. And everybody
thinks that, you know, soccer is not so famous because
you have NBA, you have American.

Speaker 15 (01:14:53):
Football and stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:14:53):
But as you said, I saw so many kids playing
soccer here. Yeah, so for sure a lot of these
y it's half talent. And why not, they're gonna play
in the highest level. And uh and and I think
when you when you improve, like the first team and
then the academies and the team's gonna gonna get more
serious the kids in the academies and take care of them.

Speaker 15 (01:15:14):
For sure, you're gonna have just better players.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Is there a style.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
I've heard that there's a Latin America style of playing
football or soccer, and then there's a European style.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Is that really true?

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
Is there different is there competing styles on how to play,
how to approach the game, or is it?

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
Is it a blend?

Speaker 16 (01:15:29):
To be honest, To be honest, now, is is everywhere
the same? Every is everywhere the same?

Speaker 15 (01:15:35):
Uh?

Speaker 16 (01:15:37):
Maybe in Europe you're gonna see a little bit more
tactic game. And and then I realized here that is
the rhythm is like the ball is up and down
and you have to run more like here you have
to run a.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
Lot and the higher elevation.

Speaker 15 (01:15:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I strike a lot in the
first man with that.

Speaker 16 (01:15:56):
But but after say that, what they think in Europe
about soccer in US is like is totally different.

Speaker 15 (01:16:06):
The level is so good.

Speaker 16 (01:16:07):
You have so many good players, even if they are
like stars or no, you have good players, good young players.

Speaker 15 (01:16:13):
The level, the level is crazy.

Speaker 16 (01:16:15):
I don't know what they believe and how they are
looking the soccer here in US. But when I when
I came, I was impressed for what what I what
I saw.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
So last last question for me, what's the future for you?
What what do you how do you see your career going?
You you get you're playing in Poland, you came here,
you're here with the real So like, what what does
the world look like for you? You're a young man,
you're you're you're running things.

Speaker 16 (01:16:38):
I I traveled in a lot of I've played in
a lot of countries like France, Belgium, Turkey, Poland, and
then here here is the the first place that I
said that maybe I can stay like for a lot
of years, like if if everything is going good of course,
and you know, you play here and the team is
happy with you and you're happy and everything.

Speaker 15 (01:16:58):
I said to myself, like why not? Like why not?

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Here?

Speaker 16 (01:17:01):
Everything is good, I'm happy, the wife is My wife
is happy. That is important. You have you have good
people here, and yeah, is why not? I expect my
parents also to come and visit for first time in US.
I said to them, like you have you have to
see this, you have to see Utah and you have
to meet these Greek people here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
So they'll celebrities every other arms around.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
My final question for you, when did you first pick
up soccer? What were you two years old? For four?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
You're old?

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
You're what advice would you give to young kids? Like
you said, there are a lot of young kids who
play soccer in this data really around the country. What
advice did they give them?

Speaker 16 (01:17:44):
My advice is like, uh, just just to work. And
when you go, for example, to school, you're listening to
the teachers. You're listening when you're home, you listen to
your parents. So when you play soccer, you listen to
your coach. Is there for some reason? Is there to
advise you? Of course you're gonna have like good things
and bottics to come to you. But you just work

(01:18:07):
and wade your opportunity and he's gonna be there, like
and uh and of course he's like follow your dream,
like if you if you want to do this, like
just golder, go get it. Yeah, at some point you're
gonna have it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna make a soccer fan out
of me, you know that.

Speaker 15 (01:18:26):
Whatever you want more than welcome in our stadium to see.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Yeah, well, thank you, well, thank you for slinging you
by and and welcome to America. Good luck in your future.
Thank you so much. All right, brother, all right, all right,
more coming up on the rod and great show in Utah.
Talk Radio one O five nine k n R S.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
That was a great interview.

Speaker 1 (01:18:43):
Much guy. I wish him well.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
I'm telling you, I'm gonna go on and watch some
of these games. I'm out myself. I wasn't the biggest fan,
but I'm telling.

Speaker 1 (01:18:50):
You, you know when I became a fan. I can
tell you when my youngest son started playing soccer, and
I've become a big fan. I mean he coached soccer.
Now he played only once. You understand the beauty of
the game and how Americans find it boring because there's
not enough scoring. They're still abuse.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
There's still ties, yes, and I'm not in that's like
kissing your sister a tie. I can't handle the time.
I can't handle it. My daughter plays soccer, she played
her whole life, and the gas a tie. I look around, like,
what did I just do with my tenth Why am
I here watching?

Speaker 2 (01:19:23):
Is it just in a tie? We're absolutely nowhere right right?

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Do you know? Do you know we've lost every listener
who likes soccer because of what I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
I'm getting on board here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I'm like, what a bright young guy.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Yeah, you can know he's a pro to like he
he didn't just sit down with us. He had some
calls to make, like he had to go check it. Yeah,
you know, agents and can't just can't just talk.

Speaker 9 (01:19:45):
Great, all right, George, it's here today. Hey, I can't
thank you two enough for being here. That's I mean,
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
The highlight of this festival is me sitting here with
my guys.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Let's get serious.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
The rest of it's all work, all work.

Speaker 1 (01:20:03):
Come on, you know you know you you've given him
a food induced coma. I hate that happened between breaks.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
What I've been getting tired of.

Speaker 3 (01:20:11):
I hate something I didn't I didn't pat myself, I
did not pace.

Speaker 9 (01:20:15):
You don't need to what else?

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Everybody?

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:20:22):
Ale, you guys have been great.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Thank you so much. Real quick, when do you start
planning for next year right away? Do you take a
week or two off? I mean, what when do you
start planning for us? I mean you probably have it
down pretty good as to what you need to do.

Speaker 9 (01:20:38):
We do, we do, and what we're doing now is
what I do is I have a great executive committee.
We usually get together right around end of October. We
start to figure out what we want to do next,
how we want to plant what, what went.

Speaker 15 (01:20:49):
Well, what didn't go so well? Uh, you know, grows
every year.

Speaker 9 (01:20:52):
We have more volunteers every year, we have more employees
every year, so we have to figure out how we're
going to accommodate them all. And that's we do right
around the end of October, at the beginning of the
year January, and of January, first part of February we start.
We just say, hey, it's time to get going. We
get the all the committee members together, about sixty four
of them, and we say come on in here, we

(01:21:14):
sit down, we lay it all out, and then we
just go how soon do you have.

Speaker 1 (01:21:17):
To order all the food?

Speaker 9 (01:21:19):
Well, we make most of it, so, I mean the
majority of it's made, So we usually start in May.
We start making it. We have gigantic freezers that we
freeze everything in and you would never know it's frozen
once you gave.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
It it is.

Speaker 9 (01:21:33):
It's amazing the way it's done. But then the fresh
stuff is always made the euros. The suvlac, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
It was about five minutes old.

Speaker 9 (01:21:41):
If yeah, the lamb exactly the lamb, I mean it's
not even exactly. The rice, all that stuff. So when
you're done here, we're going to stick you through that line.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Not the big one.

Speaker 9 (01:21:51):
Not the big one, want to get you in the
little one.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
Well I have to. If I don't bring some of
this food home i made it, I may as well
not come home. You got to go show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we Crystal was sending him this is what I want.
Make sure you much he gave.

Speaker 9 (01:22:09):
So get to gold boxes, stick it all in there,
get two or three of them, whatever you're gonna do.
And then over here is our little to go station.
They've got bags and everything is pilaming.

Speaker 1 (01:22:17):
Wow. Yeah, it was much fun. It's been fun, it
really has.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
It has a charitable side to it, not a small one.
It is a massive It is a massive contribution. Your
community is coming together, the public. We all get to
be Greek for a week.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:31):
It's fantastic.

Speaker 15 (01:22:33):
Yeah, it's fantast Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
You have a lot to be proud of, sir, a lot,
a lot to be proud of here at the festival.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Thank you. Forty eight years forty eight. Is there one
gone back to look like what the first one was like?

Speaker 9 (01:22:43):
Well, we do. We got some pictures of the old
ones and things like that. We kind of remember just
inside this building, the whole festival used to be just
inside this building, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
Good luck on that.

Speaker 9 (01:22:51):
Yeah, there's no way.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
Look at this.

Speaker 9 (01:22:52):
We got seating for two thousand out there and they're
all full right now. Yeah, it's crazy, Yeah, wonderful time.
But you guys have been the best. I can't say
enough good things about you guys. You're great sponsors, You're
a great part of this community, and we love you all.

Speaker 1 (01:23:06):
Well, keep it, keep this up with you. I mean,
don't let this go away anytime.

Speaker 9 (01:23:09):
Oh, I have no plans of letting them go away oday.
I mean I got to lived about one hundred and sixteen,
so I've got some plans, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Well, I'm gonna weigh I now that I this is
my first time doing I've been to this festival, but
not in this role. There's some perks to this, Yeah,
I mean, I got some food here that I haven't
so good in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
I've never given it up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
You are never gonna get rid of him, George. Even
when I call it quitch, He's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:32):
Gonna be here around here.

Speaker 9 (01:23:34):
We've adopted both of You've heard it here, folks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:39):
I'm Greek for more than a week.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Absolutely, I'm sorry. Give the times again for people who've
never come, Why should they come, George, Well, tonight we
close at ten. Why should they come?

Speaker 9 (01:23:50):
Because we've got some of the best food in the world,
some of the best pastries in the world, a cathedral
to die for, a museum that's amazing, and the entertainment
is stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
We want to do one of those dances sometimes and
I want to get up bye we he means he
he's coming, He's coming, George, Okay, we'll get it out there. Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:24:07):
And then tomorrow we're open eleven to ten again, and
then Sunday noon to night.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Oh, that's great, George has been. It's been absolutely fantastic.
Thank you, Thank you guys. We've had so much fun
here today. You're gonna be able to drive home. You're
gonna fall asleep.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
I look a little Yeah, it's gonna be great, folks.
Thanks for joining us on the show. We're just winding
up right now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
It really has been.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
It has been a great show, brought a great show
wrapping up here at the Greek Festival.

Speaker 1 (01:24:30):
Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family.
Great guns to you of ours. Thanks for joining us.
We'll see you tomorrow night at The Tucker, karlsonovk

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