Rod Arquette Show - The Real Cost of EV's; 3rd Dist Congressional Canidates Mike Kennedy and John Dougall

Episode Transcript

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How are you, everybuddy, Hello, Utah, Welcome to the rod Our
schedule right here on Utah's Talk Radioone oh five nine K and are ass
We've got a great show lined upfor you. Today, we're going to
be talking about one one of thenames that is constantly coming up in the
questions being raised about who Donald Trumpis going to select for a vice presidential

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candidate. We'll explore that. We'llcontinue tonight with our series on the various
candidates running for Utah's political offices.This week we've focused on the third District
congressional race. Well, today we'redoubling up a little bit. We'll be
taking tomorrow off, So today we'llbe speaking with Mike Kennedy and we'll also
be speaking later on in the showwith John Dougal. We'll continue that today

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as well, and we've got alot of There is a a new death
Thread News poll out today concerning youknow, the race for President Donald Trump,
Joe Biden, and H and H. Robert F. Kendye Jr.
There's something in that poll that troublesme, and I'm I'm going to ask
you to help me try and figurethis out, and we'll get into that
a little bit later on. Sowe've got a lot to get to today,

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as we do each and every dayon the rod Ar Kent Show.
If you want to be a partof it, of course eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero tripleeight five seven eight zero one zero,
or on your cell phone, allyou do is have to dial pound two
fifty and say, hey, rodI don't know if if you are aware
of this, or you may maynot have even thought of this, but

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I saw this article today. Itwas it was written after the president,
former president's trip to Capitol Hill todaywhere he met with members of the Utah
House and the US House and theUS Senate. I think we may be
witnessing, in my opinion, oneof the greatest political comebacks in the history

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of this country. I mean,think about this, since the day that
Donald Trump was booted out of abooted out of the Capitol as a result
of his losing the election to JoeBiden and the events that happened on January
sixth, he was drummed from powernearly four years ago, now, right,

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and think about what has happened tohim, not only during his time
as President of the United States,but what has happened since then? Since
that day, they have beaten him, they have maligned him, they have
raided his home, they've detained him, they've indicted him, they've mugshotted him.

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They even convicted him in a court. Nearly everything counted, everybody,
and everyone counted him out. Tomany people, Donald Trump a short time
ago, a couple of years ago, was basically considered roadkill. But they
failed to destroy Donald Trump. AndI remember Rush Limbaugh many many years ago,

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shortly before his death, talked aboutDonald Trump and you that Donald Trump
supporters, And I remember Rush sayingsomething along this line. I'm paraphrasing here.
You can take Donald Trump out,but you can't take you out the
people that support him, the peoplethat support the idea that America is a

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great country, America can be greatagain, and they can't take that away
from you. And that's why Ithink this is a great political story and
maybe one of the greatest political comebacksin the history of this great country of
ours. I mean, he isundaunted, he is tireless. I mean

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Joe Biden could not keep the schedulethat Donald Trump keeps. I guarantee you
that Biden got lost again. Todayduring the G seven summit for crying out
loud, and Donald Trump is assonny as ever. Look what happened to
him just a couple of weeks ago, Donald Trump was found guilty on thirty
four felony counts. He didn't looklike a guy who just faced that.

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Today he does seem relaxed and heseems ready to he is charged um and
today I think this was a brilliantmove on his part. Joe Biden's out
of town. So here comes DonaldTrump and he meets with a house kids,
the house member. As a matterof fact, I think he kidded
with Marjorie Taylor Green today during themeeting. Word is that he basically said,

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hey, we back off, MikeJohnson. We had just leave the
speaker, Speaker of the House,let alone. But I mean he gathered
the senators gathered. Now I'm toldI haven't been able to confirm this,
but we were told that Mitt Romney, who has been an ardent opponent of

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Donald Trump, was actually in thatmeeting today. It was earlier reported that
Romney wasn't going to be able tomake it because he had a flight and
could miss that flight. But apparentlythe flight was canceled. Something happened,
so he did decide to go tothe meeting. Now you know the video.
I tried to see if we couldcatch him in the video. Mike
Lee was there. I saw Mikethere, but I didn't see Romney.

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But we were told that Romney wasin fact in that meeting. Today,
I don't know if he hung aroundfor the news conference. Mitch McConnell was
there and others were there, andit really was a call of unity for
the Republican Party, and I thinkDonald Trump was able to pull that off
today. I mean, mister Trumpright now is no less despised by the

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evil operators in Washington who are willingto shred the Constitution to destroy him.
They really are. But they havebeen exposed. Their tactics have been revealed,
They've been beaten, and I thinkthey have been reduced. Here's what
Trump said with the Republicans today.He said, we have great opunity and

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we have great common sense. Hesaid, after huddling with the Republicans,
we are a nation in decline.We have a leader that's been laughed at
all over the world. We're goingto turn it around, and we're going
to turn it around fast. Theybetter because he only has four years in
office if he is elected here inNovember. But the ultimate victory, in

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my opinion, for Donald Trump,will come on November fifth. And if
he is elected to go back intothe White House and to fix everything that
Joe Biden has destroyed or ruined,then I think you can really say it
is the greatest political comeback in thehistory of this in this country. You

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can say it now. But hehasn't won yet. Poles are indicating the
race is very very tight. No, you know, polls different. You've
seen other polls where Donald Trump isdoing very well, much better. Matter
of fact, the betting nods nowhave really increased that Donald Trump will be
in the White House come January andwill beat Joe Biden. But you know,

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you can't say it is the greatestyet. But I believe in watching
what is going on right now,with the momentum that is starting to build
up, with the campaign that DonaldTrump is starting to wage against Joe Biden.
You know, he didn't bring upJanuary sixth today, He didn't bring

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up the twenty twenty election. Hetalked about unity, He talked about getting
this country on track and that's whatthe American people want to hear, because
right now they think this country isheaded in the wrong direction because of a
very feeble president and a party thathas turned so far left it doesn't know

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where it is anymore. So Ithink we are in the midst of seeing,
like I said, one of thegreatest political comebacks in the history of
this country. And I'm going totalk to you more about this in the
five o'clock hour because I want totie this into the poll that was released
today by the Deseret News about DonaldTrump, Joe Biden, and Robert F.

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Kennedy Junior and where they stand amongUtahn's when it comes to the November
fifth election. So we'll talk aboutthat a little bit later on, but
just sit back for a minute andthink about what has happened with Donald Trump.
And here he is riding up tothe Capitol today. They didn't meet
in the Capitol, they met offoff the campus site, but riding into

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Washington and ready to unite the party, having a sunny disposition, saying we're
going to go it. We're goingto go get this guy, and we're
going to change America because he hasa plan in place. It's a plan
that scares the you know what outof a lot of people in Washington,
but it is a plan I thinkthat the American people support. They want

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to see change, they want usaction, and I believe there are many
people in America today who believe thatDonald Trump is the one who can get
it done. We'll wait and see. We'll talk about that more with you
in the five o'clock cover. Greatto be with you on this hot Thursday.
We are in double digits today,finally got here. We'll have a
few more days before the summer wrapsup, but let's not think that far

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ahead as of yet. Great tobe with you here on the Rod Arcent
Show. If you want to bea part of the program today eight eight
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two fifteen and say hey Rod.Coming up, we'll talk about one individual
whose name is being bandied about tobe Donald Trump's VP candidate. That's coming
up right here on the Rod ArquetShow. Welcome back. If you want

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Well, there are reports out therethat Joe Biden is losing support among
young voters, African Americans and Hispanics. According to the CNN political Guru,
his name is Harry Enton. Biden'slead over Trump among Hispanic voters has dropped
by a net twenty points from twentytwenty, with his support falling from fifty

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nine percent to forty one percent.Donald Trump has gained from thirty two percent
to forty four percent. And itcould have a real impact on two key
swing states, and we're talking aboutArizona and Nevada. Well, a lot
of names are being talked about asfar as as far as President Trump's former
President Trump's VP candidate. Names likeTim Scott have been bandied about. The

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Governor of North Dakota, Doug Bergramhas been talked about and also Marco Rubio.
Well joining us on our Newsmaker lineright now to talk about Marco bean
what this would do for his careerif in fact, Donald Trump selects him
as his VP candidate. Is MaraAdams. Myra has always been a great
guest on the show, she writesfor The Hill, Myra, thanks for

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joining us, your best guest rightnow. As to Marco Rubio's chances of
being selected as Donald Trump's VP choice, I think it's extremely realistic because it
makes sense politically. As I wrotein my hillpiece, I had five reasons
why I believe Rubio would be areally great addition to the ticket. However,

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there is one what could be amajor problem, which is the twelfth
Amendment to the Constitution states that presidentialelectors may not choose a president and vice
president from the same state, sothat could be a problem. Rubio has
said that he actually would move,but keep in mind the electors do not

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vote until December seventeenth. Theoretically,Rubio could literally move to a state like
North Dakota, which has a oneday residency requirement, and Texas has a
yes and Texas has a thirty dayresidency requirement, so theoretically he could,

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but also Trump wins big, theydon't need all thirty electoral votes. They
could just vote for Trump and that'sthe fifteen electoral votes and they would have
to do without the other fifteen electoralvotes. Of Florida has a total of
thirty electoral votes, so they maynot it may not even be a problem,
but it could be. Boy,that would be a stark change,
moving from Florida to North Dakota atelites declaring your eligibility. That would Yeah,

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that would be a bit of ashock. Mara, do you think
he really wants this? Marco Rubio, do you think he really would like
to be Trump's VP candidate? Ithink he absolutely would be because of the
title of my hill piece. Hewants to be the first Hispanic resident.
And he tried to run when hewas totally not ready to run. He

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was into his first term and basicallyhe was not ready. The people in
Florida thought he wasn't ready, andhis presidential campaign in twenty sixteen completely crashed
and burned, and he kind ofretreated from that, and now he wasn't
really even thought of as a presidentialcandidate, but having a particularly exciting job

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of being Trump's VP, which bedeadly in some cases, but it would
be definitely positioning him because this particularvice presidential candidate under Trump means that with
Trump only being able to serve onemore term, that would mean whoever's VP
becomes the leading Republican candidate for twentytwenty eight, and that would be that

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would be a really big deal,Myrah. And as you point out in
your article, in a number ofrecent interviews that Marco Rubio has done,
it's fair to say he's checked offall the boxes of what he needs to
say about Donald Trump. He defendedhim during the trial, he brought up
some other issues as well, Sohe seems to be positioning himself as being
ready to be Trump's VP choice.Oh, absolutely, absolutely, because Rubio

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does not like the Senate. Infact, when he first declared he was
running for president in twenty fifteen,he actually told a friend that he hated
the Senate. Like I quote thatin my PCE, he hated the Senate.
It doesn't give him a chance toreally shine, although he has come
back in that sense. He isvice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee,
so I think he's gotten a littlebit comfortable with being a national figure within

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the Senate, but that's nothing liketo be the first Hispanic resident, and
certainly being Trump's VP sets him upreally nicely to be that. So that's
why you're saying all his cow towingand saying things which you can't even believe
he's actually said, and he trulybelieves, but he wants to be VPS,
so he'll say anything. Ah Well, there are you know, people

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are suggesting now that Trump may dovery well among the Hispanic vote and the
Black vote in this election. Thereare reports or you know, some of
the polls have indicated that how muchwould he help him on the Hispanic side?
He's Cuban, how much would hehelp on that side? Well,
I think he would help him quitea bit because he would be the only

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vice presidential candidate that speaks Spanish,and that gives him a great opportunity to
go on Spanish media and to talkyou know, Spanish with all the millions
of viewers that watch Spanish media,So that gives him a huge advantage.
Also, one thing that I writeabout in my piece is that he's a

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practicing Catholic and that doesn't get talkedabout much, but I have seen him
in action in front of Catholic groupsand he wows them because even though as
we know, Biden is also aCatholic, but American Catholics think that Rubio
is quote unquote the real thing,and Biden they don't think he is.
So the Catholic vote. In fact, I had quoted that when in two

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thousand and twenty, Trump won fiftypercent of Catholics and Biden won forty nine
percent. But with Hispanic Catholics,Trump won only thirty two percent and Biden
won sixty seven percent. So Rubiowould give him a real edge, would
give Trump a real edge with HispanicCatholics, and that it's a really big

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thing. I can't emphasize it enough. That is the little secret edge that
nobody talks about. But I talkedabout it because I have seen him in
front of Catholic audiences and they really, they really love him because he speaks,
he speaks the language and is thathe is a man of faith,
so he doesn't have to fake it. That's a big deal. He's Hispanic,

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but he's not Mexican Hispanic. He'sCuban, so that could be a
little dicey there, but he doesspeak the language that brings up an interesting
scenario. I know we're all focusedon twenty twenty four, but let's look
ahead to twenty twenty eight. Let'sassume that Trump wins and Rubio is his
vice presidential candidate. You could havea race in twenty eight between Rubio,

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possibly Run Dessentans, and maybe NikkiHaley. Boy does that set up an
interesting scenario? Yes, it did. It does. But keep in mind
of Trump wins, that means thatMark or Rubio is the incumbent vice president
and there is a lot of benefitthat a candidate can have as the incumbent

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vice president. So that is somethingthat Run de Santas, who will be
out of office at the time,can't compete with. So Rubio would have
the great edge. Anybody who isTrump's THREEP that doesn't completely mess up would
be the leading candidate. And ifTrump wins, would be the incumbent.
So that gives them just an amazingadvantage. And you know, we'll see

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how that all plays out. Butcertainly Rubio again as the first Hispanic president,
he'd be the first Hispanic vice presidentalso. But there is that cachet
to being that it's like being youknow Obama. He was he was the
first black president, and that hasa certain cachet to it. So yeah,
that's what's going to be really interestingbecause whoever gets chosen as Trump's VP,

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that twenty twenty eight election looms largebecause immediately they're tapped as the front
runner for twenty twenty eight. Myra, thank you very much for joining us
since afternoon here on the Rudder kenchoMyra Adams. She writes, she's a
contributor, an opinion contributor to TheHill, talking about Marco Ruby on the
possibility of Donald Trump selecting him ashis VP candidate. All Right, we've

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got a lot more to get towhen we come back. A conversation with
a doctor an attorney who's also nowwants to be a congressman. That's coming
up right here on the rod ArKent Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine KNRS. The Utah DebateCommission last night wrapping up their series of
debates. I thought the Utah DebateCommission this year has done a wonderful job.

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The debates were really well done.I think a lot of questions out
there. You know, sometimes whenyou have so many people on stage,
like they did last night in thethird Congressional District. It is very,
very difficult to be able to reallydig into many of the issues that are
important, but I thought they've donea great job this election season. So
kudo's out to the Utah Debate Commission. Now let's talk about the third district

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race a little bit. Later on, we'll talk with John Dougal, the
Utah State Auditor, who is acandidate in the third Congressional district. But
we've also had a conversation with doctorMike Kennedy. Mike is a state center
He served in the Utah House fora few years. Now as state Senator,
he too is running. He's botha doctor and an attorney. And
I, as I spoke with Mikeearlier, I asked him about a comment

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that he made in an interview Ithink it was with the editorial board at
the Desert News, in which hesaid that politicians today are unresponsive to the
daily needs of our citizens in theform of buying and spending on things that
are unnecessary, creating inflationary trends.I asked Mike, how does he see
this plane out and what he woulddo about it if he had the chance.

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As a public servant for the pastten years. I've seen it routinely
with my constituent outreach in the formof the emails that we get back from
people. In addition to our townhalls, Rod, there's a lot of
people that feel like our federal governmentjust does not listen to them. How
do we know that. We seethe out of control government spending, We
see inflation ruining our family's economies inthe form of they're having to put basic

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necessities on credit cards. We havebeen demanding for decades now our border be
secure and still this to this day, Rod, you and your listeners know
it's worse now than it's ever been. And all of that we can lay
at the feet of the effeckless Bidenadministration. They're terrible policies. And I'm
a person that wants to go backto Washington, d C. And serve

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the people. I'm a man ofthe people. I've been representing them for
ten years in the legislature. I'ma doctor and love serving my patients.
Of course, I hear a lotfrom my patients as well, and we
need somebody who understands the people's needsand are willing to work for them.
And that's the kind of person I'vebeen, That's the kind of person I
will continue to be. Mike.The jobs report which came out last Friday
show the two sectors of the economythat are growing jobs are healthcare and guess

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what government? How do we redustgovernment? Mike? When the jobs and
they keep on adding people, programsget bigger and bigger and bigger. How
is a Congress when would you fightto stop that Medicare and Medicator massive drivers
or our national debt. As adoctor in the systems for twenty five years,
I know where the fraud, wasteand abuse are in those systems,
and I can see how we canreign in government spending at least with those

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programs if in you and I bothknow Washington, DC is a target rich
environment. There's fraud, waste,and abuse everywhere in Washington, DC.
We need somebody who's willing to gothere and cut costs by maintaining the excellent
health care quality that Medicare and Medicaidbring, but get rid of antellayer programs.
And I've got oodles of those thatI know about already that we could

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eliminate, not damage healthcare at all, and That's one thing that I bring
to the table that my opponents justdon't have as an expertise in an area
that's driving our national debt, thatwe could actually I could build coalitions.
I'm proven collaborator or be able todo that that would actually drive down costs
and at the same time maintain thenecessary programs that people have been depending on
for a long time now, likeMedicare. Whenever you talk about Medicare,

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Medicaid, or you talk about socialSecurity, in those entitlement programs, you
know, everybody goes up in armsand don't you dare touch them. Do
you find yourself do you think youhave the courage or the knowledge to be
able to address them and do somethings that will fix the problems? Mike,
That's the excellent question, Rot Andthe point behind that is I'm a
proven consensus builder, and how howdo we know that? Through the transgender

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ban on dangerous and irreversible surgeries thatwe've done on children. I was able
to pass that bill in twenty twentythree, and I did that with a
lot of heat and pressure coming atme. Of course, you know,
your listeners know that I had avandalism on my house I have death threats
on my phone that are proof ofI have been subject to that kind of
pressure. And the other thing,right that's really important about that is building

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a coalition of like minded individuals.The reality is nobody in Washington, DC
can do anything themselves by themselves,even though Joe Biden seems to think you
can, you do everything by himselfwith a like Obama said, with a
pen and a phone. The realityis for us to pass laws, we
need to get a number of peopleon board with those laws, and then
when the heat comes, we canall work together to try to make things

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better. And actually I have aproven record of moving conservative principles forward and
doing it with a coalition of peoplethat are able to handle the pressure that
comes inevitably when you touch these kindof programs. Mike, do you have
any fear when you talk about,you know, bringing people together, coming
up with a compromise, that thereare some conservatives who are going to say,
we don't want compromise anymore. We'retired of compromising. We want the

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policies and the issues that we believein front for I mean, how are
is there a risk that you're takingthere, Mike? When you talk about
this. When I did the transgenderban on those dangerous reversual surgeries, the
realities Rod, in your listeners,we did not back down on our principles.
We were able to actually pass abill that did what we needed it

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to do. At the same time, we're able to build that coalition.
And when it comes to these healthcareprograms that are driving our national debt into
the ditch, is there's a bunchof waste that I could actually convince my
colleague legislators because I'm a doctor,that these are wasteful programs, They're unnecessary.
I know that the industry that's onthe take is going to screen bloody

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murder about this is a terrible cut, but actually it's not going to damage
the health And that's the kind ofthing that I've been able to prove and
would it be able to do inWashington, DC. And frankly, Rod,
I'm excited to get to work.I know there's a lot of problem
in Washington, d C. ButI know the people of Utah do it
well, and I want to bringthat kind of Utah approach to what we
could do in Washington, DC.And I just need to find those people

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that are like minded, we canactually make those things happen without compromising our
principles. Mike quests your take onthe executive order issued by President Biden last
week. There was a story outtoday that I think was last Thursday.
Some ten thousand people tried to crossinto the border. Again. He's putting
a lid on it, so heclaims of twenty five hundred. Obviously his
idea isn't working do well at thispoint his political pandering rod You and I

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are disgusted by this. As he'stapping into the oil reserves, trying to
drive the price of gas down,he's wiping away hundreds of millions of dollars
of student loans, just trying todo that with his magic pen. The
reality is this isn't illegal. Theseefforts are weak and they're unlikely to be
of any value. And the onlytime President Biden seems to do anything is

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when his poll numbers reflect that he'sin serious trouble and finally he'll do something.
I'll just say ride what we need. Our people are willing to roll
up their sleeves do the work that'snecessary and not just wait for opinion polls
to tell them there's a problem,and our president needs to go. I
mean, it's very clear Joe Bidenhas been one, in my opinion,
the worst president of my lifetime,and we really need new leadership to lead

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us into a better place. Andunder the Trump administration, we saw our
taxes were lower, we got greatSupreme Court justices, and the border was
under better control. And as alegislator, I'd love to work with President
Trump and make those things better.Mike, you're a doctor, what do
you see in Joe Biden's cognitive abilities? Is there decline taking place there?
We all age, we all agedifferently. Do you see decline taking place

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there? Mike, I'd love tosee him up close, ride because it's
hard to judge. We saw hish We saw his State of the Union
address, and I was I don'tknow what medicines they gave them to make
that performance the way that it was, but there was something unusual that seemed
to happen there. But I dohave grave concerns. Frankly, when we
have a week president in whatever fashion, it sends a mess to dictators all

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over the world that they can beon the march because the United States of
America is asleep at the switch,and I get really concerned about the nature
of our president and his possible healthissues. Of course, we know he
is an elderly fellow, and frankly, I don't think his policies are any
good, and I do have concernsabout his mental and physical state. But
a lot of that true judgment ofthat would have to come from direct observation,

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which I'll just turn to the votersand say, if you're willing to
support me in this race, I'llgo and do a clinical evaluation of Joe
Biden's mental state and come back andreport to the people of Utah what I
find. Mike, final question foryou, if people want more information on
your stand on all kinds of issuesout there, a little bit of your
background, where do you send them? Where should they go? Thanks?

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Ron, I sure appreciate you andyour listeners. Mike Kennedy for Utah dot
Com mikey Kennedy foor Utah dot comis a website and we have two more
weeks, as everybody knows, beforethis primary is over. I would love
to serve the people of Utah.I've been at public servant for ten years,
a doctor for twenty five. I'man attorney in small business owner and
would love to use those skills tofight for you in Washington DC. Mike

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Kennedy for Utahs where you can findmore about me. Loved hearing your vote.
Get those ballots and people, Thankyou very much for your votes.
Mike Kennedy. We had a conversationwith Mike just a couple of days ago
talking about the third District congressional race. They wrapped up their debate last night,
a very lively debate last night.As a matter of fact, a
little bit later on in the show, we'll talk with another candidate in the

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third district race, John Dougal,Utah State Auditor, will join us.
Coming up later on in the showtonight. More coming up right here on
the rod Ark Kent Show. Greatto be with you as your work your
way home on a hot Thursday afternoon. I really like this woman. I
mean, she is eighty two yearsold. Her name is Julie Jerman,
and she is now suing her localYMCA for slapping her with a lifetime ban

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after she complained about a male tofemale transgender employee in the women's locker room.
Now again, she's eighty two yearsold and she is accusing the Olympia
YMCA of violating her First and fourteenthAmendment rights by banning her from all YMCA

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facilities in the Olympia area. TheCenter for American Liberties, which represents Julie
Jarman, sent a letter warning oflegal action unless the YMCA apologizes and pays
her three hundred and fifty thousand dollarsnow. The city failed to respond,

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and therefore they have taken the cityto court. Now. Miss German,
a forty year member of the YMCA, was kicked out in July of twenty
twenty two. Here's what happened.She confronted Clementine Adams, a gender staffer
serving as a YMCA came counselor.He entered the women's locker room with two
young girls. Well, Miss Jarmanwas showering. Jerman thought she was witnessing

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a crime in p so she spokeup at best she could under the circumstances,
and told Adams to leave the women'slocker room. Miss German asked him,
do you have a penis? Thestaffer responded, that's none of your
business, Miss German, and sheyelled at him to get out of here.
Well, instead of supporting Miss German. The YWYMCA came in and attacked

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her and said she had no rightto do this, and they banned her
from the YWCA. She is nowsuing them, wants her membership back,
wants an apology, and once threehundred and fifty thousand dollars. Pretty interesting
story. Ron decentives the governor ofFlorida. Boy did he get after a
reporter yesterday he unveiled the budget andthere during a question and answer period,

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he was asked about a federal ajudge there in Florida which has condemned Florida's
gender transitioning law, band's hormonal treatmentand sex therapy. Listen to this.
This's what happened in a quarrey bullyfrom yesterday. So my question is this
were talking about the lesson to taxtheir dollars? Why to taxic dollars?

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Go to this page for the epigeBecause it's wrong to mutilate miners. It
is wrong. It is wrong toperform a sex change on a sixteen year
old. You're not allowed to geta tattoo, but somehow you can have

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your privates cut off. Give mea break. This is wrong. And
I would also say this has alreadybeen decided by the Eleventh Circuit Court of
Appeals. They upheld Alabama's law,which was almost identical to Florida's law.
This will be reversed, There's noquestion it'll be reversed. Think about it.

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When the founding Fathers were creating theConstitution, and when the first Congress
passed the Bill of Rights, oreven when they passed the Reconstruction Amendments in
the eighteen sixties, do you thinka single person involved in that thought that
there was a constitutional right to dothis genital mutilation. It's ridiculous. It

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is ridiculous. And Ron Descent hasreally got after that reporter and he said,
that's why we're spending taxpayer money todefend the children of Florida. We
wish them all the best in thatregard. All right, our number two
of the roder Ketchell coming up,Stay cool or Jay said a moment ago
that it could hit one hundred today. Well, when I got into the

(32:30):
car a short time ago, didsome driving around to do a few things,
my car sent it was one hundreddegrees, triple digit temperatures today.
We'll have a few more days ofthose coming up later on. But it
will cool off this weekend for Father'sDay weekend, so hopefully you'll be able
to treat Dad to a very verynice weekend. Now, I want to
have a conversation with you tonight asyou work your way home about the subject

(32:53):
that I talked about in the openingmonologue of the show. And I know
many of you may not be ableto hear that or word not able to
hear it because you're still at work, not yet in the car or in
a place where you can listen tothe show. So let me recap it
real quick, and then we'll gointo another issue that I have on this
same topic. I told Donald Trumpwent to what was in Washington today?

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I think it's one of the firsttimes he's been back to Washington, you
know, since he left the WhiteHouse. He met with members of the
House. Later on met with membersof the Senate, and it was a
real you know, it was alove fest. I mean, you know,
they he met first with a House, had a very cordial meeting with

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members of the House, many ofthem who are very strong supporters of the
president. Joked a little bit.He got after Marjorie Taylor Green and basically
told her in a kidding way toleave the House Speaker Loan. Of course,
she has led efforts in the pastto get rid of them, get
rid of them. And then hewent to the Senate and met with the
senators. Now there was a reportearlier that mitt Romney would not be there.

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We were told he was there today. Apparently a flight he had scheduled
was canceled, so he decided togo. I'm not sure if that's true
or not, but we were toldthat mitt Romney was in that meeting.
Donald Trump looked very confident, helooked very relaxed. He didn't bring up

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January sixth, He didn't bring upthe twenty twenty election. What he talked
about are things that are important tothe American people. You just heard him
say in Abby's newscast a moment agotalking about Hunter Biden, that he wasn't
going to say anything there, buthe understands maybe what the president is going
through because he's had friends and hisown brother as a matter of fact,

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who dealt with an addiction problem.But he talked about unifying the party.
He says, we need to cometogether. It is important that we win.
Time is short. He's got tomake a lot of changes when he
gets in there, and he needsthe support of both the Senate and the
House. Now, there are chances, you know, as you look toward
the election, which is now lessthan five months away, there is a

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real chance that the Republican Party couldtake control of the Senate again. Hanging
onto the House may be a biggerchallenge, but it'd be great if he
had both. He may only getone if he is elected President of the
United States again. As I ownthe show today and this is my observation,
and I want to see if youagree. I think we are witnessing

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now maybe one of the greatest politicalcomebacks in history. Now you could claim
that Richard Nixon had a great politicalcomeback. Remember he lost to Kennedy in
nineteen sixty and everybody wrote him offthat an know, yet he comes back
and wins the White House. Whatin the nineteen sixty eight election against Hubert

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Humphrey. So that's a political comebackstory. And then, of course we
know what happened with Richard Nixon,you know, quit after the Watergate scandal.
But if you look at what happenedto Donald Trump after well, even
while he was in office, theopposition did about everything they could to this
man, Yet he keeps on comingback. I mean, as I mentioned,

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they have beaten him at the polls, they have maligned him, they
have raided his home there in marA Lago. They've detained him, they've
indicted him, they've mugshotted him.They even convicted him in court. Nearly
everyone has counted Donald Trump out atone time or another. Well, what

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they did, They failed to destroyDonald Trump? Why because of many supporters
like you out there who listened tothis show each and every day. He
was today he just seemed undaunted.Today, he seemed tireless, He seemed
confident. He seems sunny as ever. Now, compare that, Compare that

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with what we see with Joe Biden. You know, Joe Biden, he's
in Italy right now for the Gseven summit. At one time it looked
like he got lost. Today insome remarks today he stumbled yet again.
You know, and this guy.They shut this guy down every afternoon by
about three o'clock so you can gohave a little nappy poo, you know.

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And there is concern, and Isaw this story today, There is
concern within the Democratic Party that JoeBiden is not taking the time to prepare
for his upcoming debate with Donald Trump, which will take place what two weeks
three weeks from tonight, June twentyseventh, on CNN. They're concerned he's

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not preparing. You know, thisis second trip back to Europe in a
very short time. He was thereback in June sixth for the eightieth anniversary
of D Day. He's back againfor the G seven summit. Now there
are some Democrats who are grumbling alittle bit that he should have sent Kamala
Harris there and he should have stayedhome to prepare for this debate with Donald

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Trump, because the world is thisnation is going to be watching to see
how he performs on that night,and if he stumbles and stumbles badly,
the Democratic Party is going to bein disarray. They're going to be in
panag moode if they aren't already.So you know, there's concern. So

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you've got Donald Trump shaking hands today, smiling today, confident today. He
looked relaxed today. This guy wasjust convicted of thirty four felonies, but
he looked very relaxed today. Putthat against Joe Biden. Okay, look
at the contrast there. Okay,now I bring this up and I wanted
to talk to this to you aboutthis today because the dest News and the

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Hinckley Institute of Politics released a newpoll today and in a head to head
matchup between Joe Biden and Donald Trump, fifty seven percent of Utah say they
would support Trump if the election wereheld today. Now, that nearly mirrors
what Trump vote share was in Utahback in the twenty twenty election. I

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think it was fifty eight percent.So it's down just a little bit.
One quarter of the voters say theywould support Joe Biden, just twenty five
percent. That is down significantly fromthe thirty eight percent of Utah voters who
backed him in twenty twenty. Eighteenpercent of the voters according to this poll

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today are undecided. Now, independentcandidate Robert Kennedy draws more voters from Trump
than Biden. I'll get that one. Trump still dominates in a three way
race. So head to head ifthe twenty twenty four election were held today,
according to this poll today, DonaldTrump would get fifty seven percent of
the vote, Joe Biden twenty fivepercent, eighteen percent don't know. Now,

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if Robert F. Kennedy Junior isinvolved in the race. Forty nine
percent would vote for Trump, twentypercent for Joe Biden, twenty percent for
Robert F. Kennedy, eleven percentdon't know. So my question is to
you today, as you're working yourway home tonight and lines are open to
you now eight eight eight five seveneight zero one zero, or on your
cell phone dial pound two to fifteen, and say, hey, Rod,

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why are not more Utahns getting behindthe election of Donald Trump. Donald Trump
is going to be the Republican nominee. Donald Trumps has been attacked from every
possible angle you can think of sincehe came down that escalator back in June
of twenty fifteen. He surprised everybodyby winning in twenty sixteen, and thank

(40:37):
goodness, beating Hillary Clinton. Nowhe lost to Joe Biden in twenty twenty.
Even though a lot of us havevery a lot of questions about that
election, I mean a lot ofa lot of shenanigans went on. Let
me put it that way. Youknow, I don't know if there was
an organized effort, but COVID nineteenthrough that race and all kinds of different

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directions, and I honestly think Ican't believe that Joe Biden got eighty one
million votes and Donald Trump only gotseventy three million. I mean, the
economy was going good, things weregoing well. The American people somehow voted
for Joe Biden honestly thinking he wouldrestore some sanity to the country. I
don't think it was insane. Itwas insane because the media and how it

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portrayed Donald Trump. Okay, soI want to open up the phones to
you on this question tonight is whyis it that more Utahs are not getting
behind Donald Trump. Do you runinto people who say, oh, I'd
never vote for the man. Ican't stand the man. Why you're ask
him why? I mean, havethey ever given you a solid answer as

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to why they will not vote forDonald Trump? Policies look pretty darn good,
folks. I mean, you lookat the policies of his four years.
Inflation was at one point nine percentduring the Biden administration, went to
as high as nine percent, backdown to what three and a half percent
today. You look at gas prices, food prices are crazy, you know,

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so the policies are there? Isit all based on personality? And
why can't you get over that andlook at the good of the country and
what we need done in this countryto get it back on track. I
don't necessarily get it, but maybeyou can enlighten me because I need some
today on this whole question. Fiftyseven percent is a strong number, but

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I think it should be higher.You know, we should be somewhere.
I mean, we're considered one ofthe reddest of red states. You know,
they talk about that all the time. I'm not sure if that's true
anymore, but that's what people alwayssay. So if we are the one
of the reddest of red states,why aren't more people out there getting behind

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Donald Trump? I don't get it. Maybe you can help me out eight
eight eight five seven O eight zeroone zero triple eight five seven zero one
zero, or on your cell phonedial pound two fifty and say hey,
Rod we'll get to your calls andcomments coming up right here on the rod
ar Cat Show. It is theRod Arket Show with you on this Thursday

(43:22):
afternoon and Utah's Talk Radio one ohfive nine can arrest live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app Still to come this outor still to come on the show tonight.
A little bit later on we'll talkabout a lot of things out there
about COVID. I mean, moreand more information is coming out about COVID.
You know you've got Fauci's hand.Well, we just kind of made
up things. There are no signsbehind it. We kind of made up

(43:44):
things. What kind of damage isthat caused in this country? We'll get
into that, but right now we'retalking about why more Utahns are not supporting
Donald Trump and his race for theWhite House again pull out today by the
Dead's Red News. The Hinkley Instituteof Politics up there with you, showing
fifty seven percent of utah and supportersupport Donald Trump. I think that number
should be higher. What is holdingpeople back? Where are people? I

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mean you probably run into people whosay, oh I just can't stand the
man, and they won't for themfor him, won't vote for him?
Why not? Eighty eight eight fiveseven O eight zero one zero. We're
on your cell phone dial pound twofifty and say, hey, Rod,
do the phones we go. Let'sbegin with Jill, who's been patiently waiting
on I fifteen tonight. Jill,thanks for joining the Rod Arcut Show.
Hey Ron, how are you Jill? Now? Here's my I'm doing well.

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So here here's my take a littlebit on this. Because I was
one of those two in twenty sixteen, I was quiet about who I voted
for. Even though I voted forTrump, I'm not a huge fan of
his personality, and I'm listening tohim speak a lot of the times,
which is probably one of the biggestreasons why here people are kind of turned

(44:52):
off by him. But here's theanalogy that I try to use with people.
So I'm a clinician. If Ihave a patient who needs to go
see a different specialist, I'm notgoing to send them to the doctor who
has the best bedside manner and thebest personality. I'm going to send them

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to somebody who has the best clinicaloutcomes, the best the best record.
And that's how I feel about Trump. I align myself with the outcomes of
his policies, with the closed borders, with a strong America, all of
that energy independence, and so Idon't vote for Trump because I'm a I'm

(45:38):
a fan of his personality, butI'm a fan of his American first policies.
Interesting analogy, Jill, you know, don't send them to the best
doctor, send them the one who'sgoing to get who's going to help you
heal? You know, may nothave great bedside manner, but he'll get
the job done. And isn't thatwhat the American people are looking for.

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That's what I'm looking for, Rod, Yeah, I'm looking for all right,
Jill, thank you very much forlistening. Safe travels on your way
home to die back to the phones. Let's dark with Chuck in Saratoga Springs
to night here on the rod orCanto. Hi, Chuck, how are
you? Hey? Roy? I'mgood, Thank you. I'll tell you
what I've been talking to some ofthese. First of all, demographics can
be suspicious. I would question demographicsin that poll. A lot of times

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hit this and you of you overpoll democrats or liberals, So I kind
of question that first of all.But secondly, I'll tell you what.
There's so many never Trumpers in thisarea because maybe he's angry, he's mean
or something. Because I've even talkedto people who are supposedly conservatives, who
are who had given Biden to passon inflation in the economy, and I'm

(46:45):
blaming him just they hate Trump.I mean, seriously, how the range
can that be? I mean,it's simple economics, right, Rod,
Yeah, if if the fuel pricesgo up, then in habitation goes up,
and then they pass some goods goup and they passed to us.
I mean serious. I heard peoplesay, well, it's not the Biden

(47:07):
administration's inflation. I mean, comeon, really, have you ever mentioned
to them? Almost every economist outthere says the reason inflation is so high
is because of the amount of federalspending that is taking place. And who's
pushing that federal spending Joe Biden.I mean, doesn't that make sense?
Juck? Yeah, exactly, Andthey put a trillion dollars every hundred months

(47:29):
and in the economy, I mean, had why more of public who had
overheaded? It's just simple math.Yeah. But they're so the range and
so clapidi. They're never a Trumper. They would as soon have some Biden
win and not that because they hateTrump so bad. I just I mean,
seriously, get over yourself, people, Seriously, the country is more

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important than your hatre for Trump.Yeah, I'm I'm with you on that
one, Jock. All right,let's go to Roy. Hear what Dane
has to say tonight about this hereon the Rod or catcho Hey, Dane,
how are you good? Good Ron, Thanks for having me. My
feeling is that, you know,speaking I might touch a little bit of
a a tender spot here is I'mLDS, and you know I'm speaking to

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the predominant faith here in this state. I think that many of that my
faith just have this inability to dividechurch and state. They believe that because
the moral issues that Donald Trump brings, that that makes him unst to lead

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secularly, which is to me,a lack of understanding of what our faith
actually is to begin with. Ithink they missed many. Go ahead,
Yeah, no, Dane, youknow what, I think you're hitting the
nail right on the head. Ithink that's part of the issue here.
There are some people who can't separate. You know that that he is not
a religious person. You know,he is a religious person, but he's

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not a religious leader. He isa secular leader when it comes to government.
So ignore the personality and look atwhat he could do. That that
would be my argument. I actuallykind of like the guy. I understand
he's very quiet when he's not outgiving a speech, but he's very kind
from what I understand, And you'reright, I think people have a difficult
time separating the two. He's nota church leader, right, yeah,

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And I think that one of thethings that you know, if you're a
member of the Ilias, say youtend to believe that you found, you
know, for yourself, the truereligion of Jesus Christ. Well, the
problem with that and what they're doingwith their vote is saying that I believe

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in Jesus Christ, but I don'tbelieve what he taught, and that is
to you know, not judge,yeah, for one thing. And I
think that we just do so muchof that. We just think we have
a moral high ground and that nobodythat has some immorality can well yep,
yep, nobody is perfect out there, right all right, Dane, thank
you. Let's go to Jim insaul Lake. He wants to weigh in

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on this tonight as well. HiJim, thanks for joining us. Hey,
thanks for taking my call. It'skind of the same reason why Mitt
Romney would never vote for Donald Trump. And I think it's they're just too
sanctimonious. It's you have the lifestyle, or you're from New York and we're

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from Utah, and so you know, it's really hard, it's really hard
for me to vote for anybody fromNew York, especially especially if they call
somebody a name. He's been calledevery single name in the book ever since
he came down the escalator and torun for president back in twenty fifteen,

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and he's been called everything. Buthe's in New Yorker. He fights back,
and he fights back with words,and he he just doesn't take it
from other people. And yet wehear in New we're supposed they want a
president like George Bush. They ranover George Bush. And that's the reason
why we had Barack Obama is becausehe would not respond to anything negative.

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He just oh, you know,I can't, I can't do that,
And that's why we got Barack Obama. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
make a very good point, Jim. I mean, you don't under You
have to understand and be aware ofthis. Donald Trump was raised and dealt
in the in the upside down,tumble tumble world of real estate development in

(51:37):
New York City. You deal withpeople I grew up in back East.
Okay, I'm from upstate New York, way upstate New York. But people
back East will go at each otherand they aren't afraid to say and speak
out about what they think of somebodyelse, then five minutes later they'll be
best of friends. That's the wayit is with some people and people out
here in this community and in thisstate. I don't think always under stand

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that, and if you did,you would have a better understanding of how
Donald Trump operates. All Right,A lot of people want to weigh in
on this, and we'll get tomore of your phone calls coming up right
here on the Rod R. KentShow in Utah's talk radio one oh five
nine KNRS. I've got a commentfrom a Utah sender, Mike Lee,
that'll play for you in just aminute here, but I want to get

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back to your phone calls. Thisis sender Leed's response to the meeting with
President Trump earlier today. If you'rejust joining us now, I mean,
I think we're witnessing what could beone of the greatest political compacts in the
history of this country, especially ifDonald Trump wins in November. I mean,
look at everything that's been done tohim, but he just keeps on

(52:42):
going. And compare him his hit, the energy, the enthusiasm he has,
contrasts that with that of Joe Biden, who you know, who has
trouble getting a sentence out anymore forcrying out loud? So, but why
is it a poll out today andthe dazz Read News Hinkley Institute of Politics.
I'm not I can't remember who didthe poll. I'll find that out

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for you here in a minute.But Donald Trump has fifty seven percent of
voters here in the state of Utahsay they would vote for him. I
think that number should be higher.So why are there some people in Utah
Republicans we're holding back in their supportof Donald Trump? What do you hear?
What do you think? Tim?And and Sandy tonight here on the

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rod ARKITCHO? Hi, Tim,thanks for joining us. How you doing?
Hey? I had to call upand tell you how I handled that.
I run into that exact situation ata grocery store. Do you do
you? So? Gal was probablyin our mid thirties and I had a
Donald Trump had on her. Shehad a song whether it was about twelve,

(53:44):
and he said, oh, yousupported Trump? And I says yeah,
She's why sure didn't. I don'tlike him? And I said,
oh yeah, why? She said, well, I don't like the way
he handles women. I don't likethe wee hate tweets and this sad and
hither I said, well, youknow, I didn't vote for him to
be my husband. I didn't votefor him be my boyfriend or even my
best friend or anything like that.I voted for him for how much good

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he could do for the country.Yeah. Her boy says, yeah,
Mom, why didn't you? What'sfunny? I did first out laugh.
That's a great story, Tim,And you told her yeah, yeah,
yeah, you're voting for a guywho's going to get things done. What
is Joe Biden done other than ruinthis country? That's it. He's ruined

(54:29):
the country. Now you want tovote for him to be your boyfriend or
godfather or whatever. Good, goodfor you. But I would rather vote
for the man who's going to begood, great for the country. Yeah,
you're right, Tim, good response. By the way, that's a
great story. Let's go to aWest Valley here. What Paul has to
say tonight on this on the rodArquacho, Hi, Paul, how are
you fine? Thank you? Well? I was watching an interview with still

(54:51):
off a Duck dynasty and you knowhe's a religious man, Yes he is,
and I think a great leader ofanother resigion. I don't know what
religion he is, but I thinkhe's a good leader and he's got a
chance. And in his interview,he talked about he got an interview with
Donald Trump before he was made presidentand taught him about redemption. Now,

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Donald Trump said he in the interview, he said Donald Trump had no idea
what redemption was. Well, isn'tthat what we're sending our missionaries out to
do to teach people about redemption.So if these people that are I go
to church with a lot of peoplethat don't vote for or the Republicans,
if they want to see a sinner, they just need to look in a

(55:32):
mirror, along with myself. Everybodyjust look in a mirror, you'll see
a sinner. But I believe thatPhil when he interviewed Donald Trump, he
said he taught me about redemption andhe watched a change in this man.
And I know when people meet withthe bishop about things in their past,
that the bishop can change their lives. And I believe that Donald Trump has

(55:58):
changed his life, and I believedid a godly man, and I'm going
for him. I plays stand behindhim. You know what, Paul like
you? Yeah, Well, Iagree with everything you say, Paul,
and I appreciate your phone call,but I don't think the bishop changes the
life. I think it is ourLord and Savior, Jesus Christ that changes
lives. And that's what it's reallyall about. Let's go to John and
Murray see what he has to sayon this tonight. John, how are

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you welcome to the rod Arcat show. I'm doing great, Thanks for having
me. You're welcome. Yeah.I just had a question for all my
all the locals in Utah about beingjudgmental over Trump. You know, we
know he's not perfect. But ifyou look at just a New Testament and
you'll understand who's Saul and who Paulis. Paul wrote the epistles and Saul

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when he was a Roman, heused to kill all the all the Christians
and burn them and put them onthe cross, and yet he ended up
well tool Yeah, and if yougo to the Old Testament, there's plenty
of same things where kings were sendingsome women's husband off to war just so

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he can marry him. Yet theking will still use a purpose. But
I think most people in Utah arevery judgmental. Yeah, don't seem seem
to let go of things in thepast. You're right, John, Thank
you very very much for your callingyou right. That's a great story about
Sol and Paul, which I knowmany people, many Christians know about.

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I mean, we are quick tojudge, not only in Utah, but
I think around the country. ButI think a lot of people are saying,
yeah, you know, we noneof us are perfect. The country
is not perfect. We are workingtowards a more perfect union, and we're
looking for somebody to get something done. Joe Biden and the Progressive Democratic Party

(57:52):
has taken this country so far downthe road. I think there are a
lot of people who feel we cannotturn it around. But we're going to
give it a shot, and Ithink people are willing. Most people are
willing to give Donald Trump a chanceto give it a shot to see if
he could turn this thing around.Because if we don't, folks, I'm

(58:14):
not sure this country is going tobe the same in another four years.
I want to let you hear whatMike Lee said today. Mike Lee was
in that meeting with Donald Trump alongwith other Republican senators. Here is Mike
Lee's reaction to how the meeting wenttoday. So we just finished having lunch
with President Trump. He came andhad lunch with the Republican senators, talk
about a wide range of issues.He's in good spirits, but he was

(58:36):
happy. He's got a lot ofoptimism both for Senate Republicans, haws Republicans
in for the presidential race, andmost importantly, love of optimism for the
country. We need that right now. He's great to have him there.
Yeah, we do need optimism forthe country, that's for sure. Because
now let me tell you what.This is not a done deal, folks.
It's going to be a very tightrace. You've got the debate coming

(58:59):
up on Due twenty seventh, twodays after the primary. You've got the
Republican National Convention on the fifteenth.Greg and I will be there by the
way, broadcasting live from Milwaukee.Donald Trump will face sentencing on July eleventh.
No telling what that job of ajudge is going to do with Donald
Trump on his thirty four felony connectionconvictions. And there's no telling what the

(59:21):
Democratic Party is going to do.You know, if Joe Biden falls flat
on his face during that debate,you know the party is going to now
want and that could happen We'll justhave to wait and see. All right,
more of your calls coming up hereon the rod ar kenco. My
question to you is you drive hometonight. Fifty seven percent of people here
in Utah, according to the latestpolls, say they will vote for Donald

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Trump. I wonder why that numberisn't higher. If we're one of the
reddest of red states. You've gota presidential candidate who is willing to get
things done, makes some very harddecisions. Why aren't more people supporting him
here in the state of Utah especiallywe're Puplicans eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero, and your cellphone dial pound two fifty and say,

(01:00:05):
hey, Rod, what are yourcalls and comments? Coming up on the
rod arcat show A warm one onthe outside today. Hopefully you've been able
to stay cool. It is goingto cool off for the weekend for Father's
Day. I think I heard Chaseor Lindsey at KUTV Channel two say about
the mid eighties on Sunday, soit should be nice to celebrate Dad's Day.
All right? If you're just joiningus now, we're taking your calls
tonight about why more Utahs aren't supportingDonald Trump? Pull out shows he is

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fifty seven percent of the vote herein the state, down slightly from the
fifty eight percent he got in twentytwenty. But if we're a conservative state,
why are more people speaking out inbehalf of Donald Trump. It's a
question that some candidates in this stateare not willing to answer. All right,
let's go back to the phones.Let's talk with Russell, who's in
Tremont and tonight? Russell, howare you welcome back to the Rod Arcent

(01:00:51):
show. Good Sarah, thanks forhaving me. I just want to make
a comment that I've come to realizeafter after debate on whether to vote for
a Libertarian candidate and the past elections, because I'd really love to see a
third party for how often we're dividedabout this. But what we've got to
come to the realization is we rememberback when Thomas Soule made the quote of

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there are no solutions, there areonly trade offs. And my brother reminded
me of that when considering why libertariansare never going to have a good chance
of winning. So we got it, who has the least amount of trade
off? But I've come to realizewith Donald Trump, I have plenty wrong
with him a libertarian leaning that Iam, but he is he is the
most equipped, and I think weneed to stop looking at him as I've

(01:01:35):
heard people say, well, Iwouldn't trust this man with my children or
when, or you know, he'sgot his problems, YadA YadA, And
it's like, I'm tired of havingthat argument anymore. We need to look
at this as a custody battle,and for the United States, if we
were in a custody battle, wewouldn't be looking for a nice lawyer.
We'd be looking for the meanest lawyerwho can punch the other side in the
face. And I hate that word. At that point, I wish we'd
have to I wish elections didn't makethis much difference in my life. But

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no one is going to come withouta set of trade offs, and he
has the least amount of trade offswhen it comes to what he's gonna do
for the country. And I mean, again, I had plenty of things
wrong with him. He's not aperfect candidate, but he has the best
chance at this point, especially afterseeing with the libertarian candidate. Oh looks
like this year too, you know, And so I'm just like, I
have no problem supporting Trump. Likethat. You know, all right,

(01:02:21):
I understand where you're coming from,Russell, and you're right. I mean
there are trade offs with every candidate, you know, Russell, you made
an interesting point. Would you wantthis man around your children? Would you
want Joe Biden around their children?Right? Smell their hair all day.
Lewis is in Nephi tonight on therod Arc Kent Show. Hi Lewis,
Hi, Hi? Are you right? I'm doing well? What are your

(01:02:43):
thoughts on? Hey? I appreciateyou taking them by. You're welcome,
appreciate you take him a call.Well. I was thinking, you know
this question you asked about why somany people in Utah don't vote for Trump.
I was thinking, you know,Trump reminds me of never Cadeser.
Neveria was kind of a narcissistic kindof Trump that way, And I wonder
how many I don wonder how manyJews would have voted for Nebukenesia. Yeah.

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Yeah, he was instrumental in bringingthe Jews to humility. They actually
turned around their lives, went backand built the temple later on. And
I think sometimes we it's like it'slike in if you look in in Daniel,
the Lord speaks to the prophet andsays, you know, he's the
Lord's act, even the affairs ofmen, and he will choose whomsoever he

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will, even the basest of men. Yes, yes, and that's in
chapter four. Yeah. Yeah,So I think I think that's kind of
where we are in this state.I think we're too much maybe like the
House of Isral Jews, and maybethey wouldn't have voted for Nevinesia, but
you know God wanted there. Yeah, yeah, good point Lewis, thank
you. All right, let's goto Brett and Caseville. Brett, you've

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only got about forty seconds, goahead, Thanks Ron. I believe that
too many of the people in caseBill, even considering the way that this
world is now, want to votefor a peacemaker rather than a fighter.
And it's going to be the samefor Utah candidates as well. Talks will
get voted in because people want somebodythat's going to be a negotiator and a

(01:04:15):
middle of the road to republic him. Let's not what Trump is. We
need people that will fight like hedoes here in Utah, and we need
him. Yeah, you're right.I mean, you know, the American
people, there are a lot ofpeople like myself and I think many of
you out there. We are sotired of this compromise. Because when do
conservatives or Republicans win on a compromise, we normally don't. So is in

(01:04:39):
time to really stand up and fightand argue our point. A program note
for you. We'll be off tomorrow. We've got a best of show tomorrow.
Then I'll be off the early partof next week, not back until
next Thursday. We're going to plugin the Jesse Kelly Show for a Monday,
Tuesday and Wednesday. Just give youa taste of what Jesse does each
and every day of towards Jesse airsfrom seven to ten in the evening here

(01:05:02):
on Talk Radio one oh five ninecan Ter Ass. So we'll give you
a chance to listen to Jesse.He does a great show as you drive
home in the earlier part of nextweek. We'll be back on the twentieth
as we get you ready for theprimary and then of course the presidential debate
on June twenty seventh. All right, you know, more and more information
is coming out about behind the sceneslook or idea of what happened with COVID

(01:05:30):
nineteen, and we're learning more andmore that people were just guessing. I
mean, Fauci even admitted that whatwas it, six foot social distancing rule,
It just came out of thin air. There was no scientists, scientific
information to support all of that.And the whole mask thing, I mean,
it really caused it some problems.Well, let's talk more about that
with our next guest, Nicole Russell, a columnist at USA Today Today,

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and she wrote about that, youknow, and the fact that COVID guidelines
cost millions to suffer, and nowFauci says there was no science behind it.
Nicole, what do you make ofall this? You know, thanks
for having me. I think Ithink when Americans think about this time frame,
you know, they originally were veryforgiving. You know, we had

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all of these mandates. We hadto lock down, we had to shut
schools, we had to close churches, we had to get most of our
businesses closed except for you know,the ones they'd been necessary. And so
I think at first Americans were reallythey tried to be understanding. We'd never
seen anything like this before. Thisis rather unprecedented. No one knew how

(01:06:41):
to handle it. I wrote inmy piece that I was afraid enough that
I kind of wrote a makeshift willfor my kids. Yes, you know,
everyone was afraid to begin with,but you know, as time moved
on pretty quickly, within a fewmonths, we could see that COVID was
really targeting, unfortunately, the elderlypopulation. They seem to be getting hit

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the hardest, and that perhaps lockingdown the entire country, including our businesses
and our schools, was maybe overreactive. It was a poor choice for us
at the time. So I thinkthat's the way Americans are looking at it
now. And the news that doctorFauci brought out last week during his hearings

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just really exemplified this more. Itmade Americans, I think, all the
more mad that their intuition was correct. Americans did overreact because of what doctor
Fauci and the government suggested we doto handle the pandemic. Nicole, Why
do you think public health officials,like doctor Fauci and others, we're afraid

(01:07:51):
to shift and come back and say, you know, we've realized we have
a great understanding of this. Nowit is affecting the elderly. We are
going to shift star strategy and focusmore on what we can do to protect
the elderly and other people. We'veasked to do this, or that we're
going to ease up on those restrictions. Why were they so afraid to backtrack
or readjust a little bit. That'sa great question, I think. I

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think even in your question, youpoint out that is what most people would
would do or would have liked tohave seen. I think even if the
administration, led by the CDC anddoctor Fauci, would have said we've gone
too far, we shut things downtoo soon, we should we should only
quarantine the sick, or quarantine theelderly elderly and not the healthy, maybe

(01:08:39):
we would have had more patients.I think the reason, the reasons maybe
why they did not backtrack. Ithink there's a couple I think maybe I
think still fear. You know,there were there were people getting sick and
dying, so I don't want todownplay the fact that people did die of
COVID. And I do think thatthere was still fear of variations of COVID

(01:09:06):
and that perhaps maybe if they letup, there would be a new variation
and then they'd have to clamp backdown. So I think there was still
some ongoing fear, which is unfortunatebecause fears shouldn't take the place of science,
you know, And that's basically whatdoctor Fauci said during those hearings is
we didn't really have a lot ofscience to back up the reasons that we

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gave everyone for social distancing. Thesecond reason I don't really want to go
too deeply into this because I havenot done a lot of my own investigative
work. But I did get alot of feedback from readers who suggested there
was quite a bit of money tobe made on vaccines from you know,
various companies. I'm not suggesting rondoingor you know, blaming anyone yet,

(01:09:57):
but I do think it's wise toprobably follow the money trail and see if
perhaps there was more going on thanwe realized. Nicole, What about the
people in the early stages of thiswho were already asking questions and saying,
wait a minute here, this maynot be correct, something's wrong here,
we don't buy into this yet,and they were brutally attacked. I mean,

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how do you you know is thatfair? What needs to When is
someone going to come out and say, we apologize for this, we did
go too far. Yeah, yeah, that's another great question. I was
one of those people. I wrotea piece in the Atlantic a couple months
into COVID, saying that we neededto reopen schools, that it was just

(01:10:39):
too much for parents to bear,it was too hard on the children to
be out of their routines and notlearning. Even in Texas, where I
live, we only shut down fora couple of months, and we saw
significant pandemic learning loss in other states, like I mentioned in my piece,
like York, we're talking years andyears of pandemic learning loss. And there

(01:11:04):
were a lot of people like myselfand and with people with far more credibility,
far more accolades and PhDs, saying, you know, I think I
think maybe we should pause. Youknow, we don't need to shut down.
I mean, if you remember,there was a time frame where you

(01:11:24):
know, a business like Target couldstay open because it was deemed essential,
but a mom and pop pizza jointhad to shut down. And I got
I got an email from readers sayingI was one of those business owners that
had to shut down and never recovered. So I think I don't think that
people who were, you know,trying to raise the alarm and trying to

(01:11:46):
sound that belt, I don't thinkthey're going to get an apology if you're
waiting. I mean, I thinkdoctor Fauchi kind of had his chance,
and during the hearings he said hedid. He did make a few concessions
that he hopes we do things alittle differently next time. I hope we
do too, But I don't thinkyou're going to ever hear Wow, I'm

(01:12:09):
really sorry. Here's all your moneyback, Here's all your life savings back
if you lost it running a business. Here's decades worth of pandemic learning loss
back. You know, those arethings we cannot undo, which is why
I think it's so important to rememberthe process of the things that happen,
so that God forbid something like thishappens again. You know, we don't

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make the same mistakes. Nicole Russellthe conservative columnists with USA Today Costa and
talking about the millions and millions ofdollars we lost because of COVID nineteen,
but also the relationships that we lostand what happened to the country. You
know, I hope we've learned.I really really do hope that we have
learned something from all of this.One thing we've learned, you know,

(01:12:56):
do not trust the government, Donot trust public health officials anymore. Allow
people to raise questions and don't condemnthem, don't make fun of them,
don't go after them. I mean, this is a free country. When
things happen, we have a rightto say wait a minute. And hopefully,
if this ever happens again, andI hope it doesn't but it most
likely will, this is where weneed to say, wait a minute,

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we will take a look at this, but do not force us to wear
a mask, to shut down ourschools, to stand six feet apart.
What a ridiculous you know, forFauci to say, well, we just
kind of came up with that idea. Wow. All right, more coming
out here on the rod Oar Catchoin Utah's talk radio one oh five nine
knrs. Over the past several weeks, we've made fun of the Biden Bunglers

(01:13:44):
who can't even figure out how toinstall EV chargers, which isn't exactly building
the pyramids in Egypt, but itmay take that long. Less than point
zero one percent of the station's havebeen built so far. Why the endless
bureaucratic del Well. The Washington FreeBeacon reports on how the left mad obsession
with di means that nothing can bebuilt. Here's what the Examiner or the

(01:14:10):
Free Beacon is reporting. In orderto qualify for a grant, applicants must
quote demonstrate how meaningful public involvement inclusiveof disadvantaged communities will occur throughout the project's
life cycle. What public involvement means, that's unclear. The Free Beacon goes
on to say this onerous diversity,equity and inclusion requirements handcuff professionals from making

(01:14:35):
proper evaluations and prevent the government fromfunding the most deserving projects. I mean,
so we can't involve or can't buildEV stations simply because we can't find
companies that meet the DEI requirements.Absolutely nutsisnem? Well, let's talk about
the the evs. The Texas PublicPolicy Foundation has now released a study exposing

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the true cost of electric vehicles.Hold on to your hats for this one,
folks. Joining us on our Newsmakerline is Jason Isaac. He is
a senior fellow at the Texas PublicPolicy Foundation. Jason, how are you
welcome to the Rod ra kencho I'mdoing great, Rod, Thanks for having
me on. All right, Jason, are we going to be a maze
with the numbers? You're about totell us absolutely, yes, absolutely,

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and so was your Senator Lee.And he wrote a letter to the Comptroll
or General, the Government Accountability Officejust last months, I think, on
May twentieth twenty four, asking themto investigate why electricity was removed from the
benefits in nineteen ninety four, andthey replaced the language with liquid alternative fuels.

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But the EPA and the National HighwayTransportation Safety Administration, the Department of
Energy continue to give evs a massivemultiplier. They would consider a gallon equivalent.
They what this multiplied times six pointsixty seven, and that's what you
get when it's so a tesla thatgets one hundred miles per gallon is getting

(01:16:11):
nearly seven hundred miles equivalent credits,and then they're selling those credits to other
automobile manufacturers to make their corporate averagefuel economy. It's nearly twenty thousand dollars
in additional subsidy per electric vehicle sold. So the benefits that the wealthy are
receiving are astronomical. Astronomical because that'swhat most wealthy people are. Most ev

(01:16:36):
owners are wealthy individuals. I thinkit's over eighty percent of people that make
well over six figures that are buyingthese is a third vehicle, fancy golf
cart to drive around make short commuteson. And here we are crushing the
least among us to subsidize those wealthyindividuals. Jason, what about the mere
cost of building the darn things?I mean, is it more expensive to

(01:16:58):
build one of these things than andit is the typical internal combustion vehicle?
I mean, Ford profits last yearwould have been double. They lost two
billion dollars on their evs. Nowthe losses are tracking over one hundred thousand
dollars per EV sold. And thenyou add in the fifty thousand dollars of
credits that we've calculated, the twentythousand that I mentioned from the corporate average

(01:17:23):
fuel economy, the federal tax creditof seventy five hundred, there's a whole
bunch of other credits and subsidies thatare in there. That's one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars. And then they'relosing over one hundred thousand dollars. And
these costs, these cars cost onaverage over sixty thousand dollars, So you're
talking expenses that exceeding two hundred thousanddollars for an ev Barely anybody would be

(01:17:45):
able to afford them at that cost, and that's why the government has to
step in and so such heavily subsidizethem. But they're losing their minds on
these things, and that's why they'recutting back their projections. You know,
they'll Biden administration. So they wantto build five hundred thousand stations. They've
spent seven point five billion to buildseven stations. It's just absurd, and

(01:18:11):
they can't do it because no companycan meet the DEI requirements that they have
to meet to be able to buildthe darn things. Makes a lot of
sense to me, Jason, Wow, Yeah, Well, you know,
DEI didn't earn it, and apparentlythey didn't earn any electrical certifications and that's
why they have seven stations to showfor seven point five billion dollars. Well,

(01:18:31):
they have completed. People are strippingthe copper out. So let me
understand, Jason, the people whobuy these cars, for the most part,
are fairly wealthy people. I mean, you know, you've got to
spend some money to have one ofthese cars. We're subsidizing them even though
they most likely could afford them withoutthe subsidies. If they really wanted them.
Is that right? Yeah, that'sabsolutely yeah, you're you're absolutely right.

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Again, the average cost of anEV is over sixty thousand dollars per
vehicle. That far exceeds the costof the average cost of internal combustion engine
vehicle. But then they get allthese tax credits and subsidies, so we
are we're subsidizing wealthy and those costsare being passed on to purchasers of internal
combustion engines. That's why people arekeeping their cars longer than ever before now

(01:19:17):
because they can't afford to buy anew car, and they certainly can't even
afford to buy a used car becausethose costs are getting pushed up because those
vehicles are having to subsidize evs withthis crazy corporate average fuel economy federal requirement
to improve fuel economy. And soit's just another market distorting policy being pushed

(01:19:39):
by the federal government. Well,I was going to say, Jason,
are most Americans rejecting this because theyfeel it's being shoved down our throats and
that is not the American way.We don't like doing things like that.
Yeah, for the first time ever, Tesla had a decline in sales from
year over year at their last reportsthat they showed up. And that's the
most brand lawyer EV manufacture most people, a majority of people that buy any

(01:20:03):
other brand besides Tesla, when theygo to buy another car, they return
to an internal combustion engine. Fortunatelyfor Tesla, they've got brand loyalty.
We'll see how long that lasts.Now they're slashing the prices and the resale
value of used evs is going downsignificantly, So I don't know if it's
going to hold much longer. Butright now it's just over fifty percent of

(01:20:25):
people that buy a Tesla, theygo back and they buy another Tesla.
I want to ask you about thatbecause I think they're one or two companies.
So I see here in Salt Lakestudy, which are selling used evs?
How do they sell? I mean, do people pick them up?
Do they get a good price forthem? Is the price lower? How
do you use ev sell? Well, they are dropping in price because Tesla

(01:20:47):
has lowered the cost of a newone, and it's one of the reasons
that Hurtz has just taken such abeating you. They agreed to buy one
hundred thousands of these electric vehicles andimmediately said we're going to sell twenty thousand
of them, and Tesla responded bylowering the cost of the new vehicles,
so that means the used ones evenbecame worthless, if not worthless, but

(01:21:09):
the cost of the used evs areselling, they're reducing significantly. And part
of the problem is that demands justnot there. People have anxiety about the
range. They don't know where they'regoing to find a charging place where if
they do find a charging place,the cables have all been stripped out and
it doesn't work. That was astudy that the Los Angeles Times did that
showed over half of the stations theyvisited didn't work. That's pretty If you

(01:21:32):
were in a gasoline vehicle car andhalf the stations didn't work, I'd be
getting a little bit nervous and startingto drive with a gas can. Fortunately
for gasoline vehicles that doesn't happen,but for evs it does, and so
people are concerned about that. Yeah, Jess, I want to ask you
another question. Every year they havea big auto show here in Salt Lake
City, and this year we wereat the auto show. I had a

(01:21:53):
chance to interview a real insider inthe auto industry, and I asked him,
They said, what do you see? What do you see ahead in
twenty twenty four for evs and hybrids? And he said, this is going
to be the year of the hybrid. He thinks hybrids are going to catch
on your thoughts on hybrids and thecost of a hybrid versus an EV.
Well, so that's the thing,and hybrids really is where the market should

(01:22:15):
have gone. Yeah, the governmentstepped in and started offering this crazy multiplier.
Even the chairman of Toyota has comeout and said that he could build
with the components, the materials,the rare earth elements, the critical minerals
that go in one EV, hecould use and replace and build sixty six
hybrid electric vehicles that have extended range, are more fuel efficient. The cost

(01:22:36):
benefit analysis for a hybrid is thereover an EV. But when you get
this market distorting multiplier, in effect, there's a motivation for the car companies
to build evs even if the demandisn't there. So we've got to repeal
this corporate average fuel economy multiplier thatthey are giving illegally to EV manufacturers and

(01:22:58):
level the playing field. And ifyou do that, the market will move
dramatically to hybrids, and that's goingto save people money at the pump because
they're going to be getting better fueleconomy. The cars are more efficient,
they won't need to be replacing tiresevery ten thousand miles like an EV is,
or replacing batteries every seven years likean EV does. Well, that's
amazing. I drove a hyph breadfor a short time in a vehicle or

(01:23:23):
a car dealer that I was endorsing. It was amazing. I could go.
It seemed like forever before I wouldever fill up. It was absolutely
amazing. Jason. They're pretty racingvehicles. Yeah, they really are.
They're fantastic. We've got one inour family. We've got a couple of
compress natural gas vehicles in our family, so we venture out and try different
technologies. That's great, Jason,great chatting with you. Thank you for

(01:23:45):
your time tonight. Great to beon. Thank you. All right.
That's Jason isaac Key is founder CEOof the American Energy Institute talking about this
new report put out by the TechSaies Public Policy Foundation on the true cost
of a LIFEC vehicles. Pretty startling. More coming up right here on The
Rod Arcit Show. And Utah's Talkradio one oh five nine knrs or what

(01:24:08):
less than two weeks away now fromthe Utah primary coming up on June twenty
fifth here in the state of Utah. The mail in ballots have already been
sent to everybody, and make sureyou fill us out. This is such
an important election. I think inso many ways, make sure you take
some time to fill them out.I would wait, you know, I
recommend you wait until the last weekbefore you make your decision because things can

(01:24:30):
happen. But we'll have to waitand see now. Last night, the
Utah Debate Commission wrapped up a seriesof debates that it's held for the primary
election this year last night. Thedebate last night was between the candidates for
the third District congressional seat formerly heldby John Curtis, who is now running
for the US Senate. We hada chance earlier to talk with Mike Kennedy

(01:24:50):
about his candidacy. We want tobring on John Dougal right now, John,
Utah state auditor, also a candidatein that race. John, how
are you welcome back to the Rodor can't show? Hey, Rod,
great to be with you. Ithought you'd say vote early, vote often.
No, no, no, John, I wouldn't say that. John.

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During the debate last night, wasthere a moment where you said something
or you talked about a policy thatwas in a way a chance for you
to separate yourself from the other fourcandidates in the race. Well, one
of the key things I talked aboutwas national debt and auditing the Department of
Defense. Clearly nobody has the experienceI have fighting get government off people's backs

(01:25:34):
and out of their wallets. Serveda decade in the House of Representatives as
a powerful legislative budget hawk, championtax reform, transparency and accountability, and
clearly as auditor for the last elevenyears rooting out waste, front abuse and
corruption and doing my job without fearof favor. And that's what I do.
And when I look at Washington,DC, you know the out of

(01:25:55):
control spending. And I recognize mostpeople are not financial people, but this
is bankrupting our country. If Congressdoesn't get the spending under control, it's
going to drive higher inflation, whichmakes it harder for us to provide for
our families and run our businesses.It's going to push for higher taxes,
which then puts even greater pressure.But something people forget about it. It's

(01:26:16):
going to push out business investments andthat all of that is a trip away.
I mean, that's going to weakenour economy and right now when we
should be cutting spending and growing theeconomy, that's going to push us in
the wrong direction. John, Whydon't we hear more candidates talk about the
issue that you're raising here? BecauseI don't hear them talk about it enough.
Is that they're they're they're feeling thatvoters don't really understand what's going on

(01:26:39):
here. Why don't they talk moreabout it? Well, if I compare
it to Utah, just in thelegislature, budgeting and oversight are hard.
Yeah, and and most people arenot numbers people. They're afraid of map,
they're afraid of budgets, and theyshy away from it because the policy
issues get much more attention. Andit's sex here. But there's got to

(01:27:01):
be folks that roll up their sleevesand way into the numbers. And that's
what I do. You know,Folks tell me politics is performative. Well,
I'm a problem solver. I'm nota showman. And that's and so
I just focused on the key issues, and that's where we've got to have
some budget hawks back in Washington,DC. And right now, if I
were to ask you who's the budgethawk in the House, You're probably going

(01:27:21):
to be hard pressed to tell youhuh yeah yeah. But John, let
me ask you this, how doesone congressman, if you were elected,
start changing things? What would youhave to do? John? Well,
you got to You got to bepersistent, persistent, persistent, And this
is not something that you give onespeech and everybody buys into it and go
down that path. You got tohelp them across the aisle, and you

(01:27:43):
got to work with folks in yourown party to identify common ground. You
got to help them understand. Forexample, social Security is going to be
cut over twenty percent within the nextdecade or so. I don't believe most
Republicans and Democrats want to kick Grandmato the curb. So now there's common
ground, you can say, Okay, what do we need to do fix
social security not only for the retireesbut also for the college graduates that just

(01:28:04):
graduated a month ago and all theworkers in between. How do we get
a better, more secure retirement systemthat's more sustainable. But you've got to
find common ground, and you've gotto figure out what motivates them, what's
in their constituents interest, and thenyou have to help deliver on that.
If you're only thinking about what's goodfor you and your constituents, you're not
going to get it done. You'vegot to build a constituency. You got

(01:28:25):
to be persistent, and you gotto work with folks. Are there things
that could be John, like whenit comes to Social Security, John,
that would not cause too much harm? Are there some things that could be
done? Now? Well, here'sone of the things that I've proposed,
and this is what I would doif I go back there. You know
what, the five twenty nine planis the Education Savings Plan. Okay,
this is a plan that Democrats havetrusted for decades. Okay, And when

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we try and push privatization of socialsecurity, Republicans never listen to the concern
of Democrats. But everything we doback there is going to have to be
bipartisan. So I'm going to proposethat we start shifting social Security and allow
workers to opt into a state sponsoredretirement trust fund in whatever state they choose
to doesn't have to be the oneyou live or work in. It could

(01:29:11):
be any state. And for theDemocrats that want government oversite, well,
guess what they have it. Butit's local. It's state government oversite,
it's not federal government oversite. Andthat money can then be invested in the
stock market, get a better wayto return. And for guys like me
that like competition, now I potentiallyhave fifty states competing to offer a better,
more secure retirement. And these arethe type of things that are long

(01:29:32):
term that we have to do toget the money out of the hands of
Congress, because the more the moneysits in the hands of Congress, the
more they're going to spend it onother activities, and they're going to drive
people off the cliff when it comesto retirement. And I think people's retirement
is too important to trust to Congress. You're talking a lot about money,
John, Let's talk about a coupleof the other issues that you where you
stand on them, immigration, otherthere's other issues. Yeah, there are

(01:29:56):
the Well, that's the most importantjob. I would agree with you on
that. At the end of theday, I tell folks, everything is
a fiscal issue. You care aboutborder security, you care about national defense,
you care about the economy, it'sall a fiscal issue immigration. Immigration.
So I come from the perspective.Look at Ellis Island. We had
an orderly process for legal immigrants tocome work and live the American dream.

(01:30:18):
And so my proposal has two pillars, secure the border and fix and expand
legal immigration. Now, fixing legalimmigration consists of Congress streamlining expanding the visa
process. When I talk to whosenephew just graduated with an engineering degree,
he shouldn't have to wait three yearsand pay thousands of dollars to get a

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green card to work here. Yes, I talked to Mike and his dairy
farmers, and they shouldn't have tostruggle to find and keep reliable workers because
we have a broken temporary visa process. We need to streamline this process because
it's critical. Whether you care aboutfood, you know, security, whether
you care about the economy. Welcominglegal, hard work immigrants who want to

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live the American dream is critical.At the same time, Congress has to
do its job appropriating money to finishthe wall, and they also have to
legislate to restrict asilent claims. Rightnow, they want to pretend like the
President can do all things. That'snot what the law says. Congress needs
to do its job and stop passingthe buck. John, I didn't see

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the entire debate. I caught glimpsesof it here and here and there.
While I was doing the show yesterday, I saw a mention of you about
Donald Trump and how you separated yourselffrom the others when it comes to Donald
Trump. Where do you stand onTrump and his presidency? So there are
several things I liked about his presidency. Before I wrote op eds in favor

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of his tax cuts, I championedhis deregulations otter, I know we got
too much regulations. I champion that. But I look at January sixth,
and you remember January sixth, theattack on the Capitol, the assault of
police officers, the disruption of theconstitution process of counting the votes. And
I called Donald Trump's seditious on thatday because you look at what happened.

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What a sedition. It is incitingpeople with the intent to disrupt government,
and that's what took place that day. Sat on his hands, tweeted about
Vice President Pennce being cowardly as hewas in calling senators trying to get them
to sell the vote. So hecould stay in office to try and keep

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the election and overturn the election.I got a problem with that. Will
you vote for him? John?When you say you're going to vote for
somebody, that's an endorsement, andI refuse to endorse anybody, all right,
all right, so you aren't goingto vote for him? Can I
read that into it, John?No, what I'm saying is I refuse

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to endorse, which means I refuseto say who I'm going to vote for
for president. All Right. Welive in a world Joe Biden is a
horrible choice. I mean, lookat what's going on at the federal level.
We had Obama that weaponized the federalgovernment against the political opponent. We
got Joe Biden, who ignores thelaws. And then we just talked about

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my concerns about Donald Trump. Thisis not a great election. We've got
some more choices we need to getback. I come from the perspective of
the Republican Party used to stand forbig ideas, not vengeance and retribution.
We need to get back to thosebig ideas. We want America, from
my perspective, to be that beaconon a hill of open opportunity. That's
where we need to get back toJohn. Is always great chatting with you.

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Good luck in the campaign. Iknow you've got a couple of weeks
to go. Good luck to you, Hey, thanks so much, all
right. That is John Dougal,State Auditor, also a candidate in Utah's
third congressional districts. Some final thoughtscoming up, by the way, Jesse
Kelly coming your way. Following thenews update at the top of the hour,
a couple of the final notes onthe election. You know, with

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fold concern about Biden's age really haunting, I think his chances for reelection.
A new poll shows his next inline, vice president, Kamala Harris,
facing serious doubts about her ability towin the presidency herself, or to perform
the job well enough that she shouldeven inherit it matter of fact, Harris,
the Vice President, will be inSalt Lake City here in a couple

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of weeks. The Politico Morning Consultpoll reveals that only a third of voters
think it's likely that Harris would winan election were she to become the Democratic
nominee, and just three and fiveDemocrats believe she would prevail. A quarter
of independence think she could win,so obviously a new poll going deep into

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Kamala Harris's liabilities and strengths as apotential president or presidential candidate. Carl Rove,
who was a chief of staff forGeorge W. Bush, now a
columnist and a contributor on Fox News, had an article today in the Wall
Street Journal and he talked about someof the key point points over the next

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several months that you need to payattention to. The first key was the
financial business stealing trial of Donald Trump. That was a key moment in this
race and it will determine if peopleare willing to you know, how they
consider Donald Trump's conviction on thirty fourfelon accounts affect him. A lot of

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his supporters feel it's a sham trialto begin with, He said. The
second most important date comes up laterthis month. That's when mister Trump could
use the June twenty seventh debate toput Biden on a dep poll by pressing
the case on inflation, uncontrolled immigration, global instability, and cultural concerns.

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I think he has a real chance. Mister Biden could steal the night if
he goes Donald Trump into repeating heis twenty twenty first debate performance when there
is a lot of shouting and nothingreally got done. Hopefully Donald Trump will
do better in that first debate thanI think I think he did in the
first debate a couple of years ago. Key point number three, he says
to pay attention. It will bemister Trump's sentencing on July eleventh. If

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he's sent to prison, some ofhis supporters could be violent. I don't
think. I don't see that happening, but many legal experts believe prison time
is a remote possibility because of theappeals that Donald Trump will will use.
Key moment number four is the GOPconvention that comes up on July fifteenth,

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four days after the sentencing. MisterTrump will have settled on a running made
by then, I would think so, and it will be interesting to see
how that convention goes. Inflection pointnumber five comes just a month labor later.
That is when the Democratic National Committeeor National Convention gets underway in Chicago.

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We all know what happened in nineteensixty eight. Because of what's going
on in the Middle East with Hamas, with the Palestinians and with Israel,
boy, that could be interesting tosee. And then, of course after
that comes the kind official unofficial startof the campaign. It seems like it's
been going on forever, but that'sLabor Day and we'll have to see what's

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going to happen for the campaign aswe head into the final two months.
So there are some key points tolook for. Of course, we will
be on top of each and everyone of them for you here on Talk
Radio one oh five nine KNRS.Like I mentioned a few times, Greg
and I will be heading to Milwaukeefor the Republican National Convention that is July

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fifteenth through the nineteenth in Milwaukee,and we'll be there talking to some top
Republicans from around the country and herein the state of Utah about the convention
and about Donald Trump, and alot of attention is going to be focused,
of course on his vice presidential runningmate. All right, just another
program note. We'll be off tomorrowa best of show. We've got a
great lineup of guests who we've spokento over the last several months. That's

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coming up tomorrow, and then we'llbe off through Wednesday and we'll plug in
the Jesse Kelly Show for you toenjoy. That's coming up Monday, Tuesday,
and Wednesday. We'll be back ofcourse on the twentieth, so we'll
enjoy Father's Day and if you gettogether so then we'll be back again on
Thursday the twentieth