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November 4, 2024 88 mins
4:20 pm: Victor Davis Hanson, Author and Historian, joins Rod and Greg for a conversation about his piece that debunks the false accusations of fascism that Kamala Harris has made against Donald Trump.

4:38 pm: Michael McKenna, a Columnist with the Washington Times, joins the program to discuss his piece in which he says voters who value the Constitution have no choice but to vote for Donald Trump.

5:05 pm: Brian Entin, Senior National Correspondent for NewsNation, joins the show for a conversation about his recent travels to nine states along Interstate 80, including Utah, to speak to voters for his “Driving the Vote” special, airing tonight at 7 pm on the CW network.

5:38 pm: Jeffrey Lord of American Spectator joins the program to discuss his piece about how Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos outed the news media, including his newspaper, as untrustworthy and was proven right by the media’s lies about Trump’s comments about Liz Cheney.

6:05 pm: It’s Rod and Greg’s “Minute to Win It” hour where candidates for political office can call the program and take 60-seconds – and not more than 60-seconds – to speak to voters about why they deserve their votes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now, fifty nine point eight percent of the money
is going to Donald J. Trump. Forty point three percent
of the money is being wagered on Kamala Harris to win.
We go down to the all important Pennsylvania. That is
a fifty eight percent money going his way to forty
one percent. I was having heart attacks all late last week,

(00:21):
all through the weekend. Something happened, folks. I'm telling you,
a light switch went off. We did lose Wisconsin on
the poly markets. That's fifty seven to forty three Harris,
Michigan's sixty two to thirty eight Harris. But Nevada's still strong.
But the all important Pennsylvania is where things continue to
look strong. And where I think I see it tell

(00:41):
is in how extreme the the attacks are coming, not
just against Donald Trump anymore, but against everyone who would
think to vote for or who have seventy five million
people have already voted, and they are now excoriating you
if you voted for Trump.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That number is half of what voted in the last election.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Word happened. I mean I heard it said on the
radio by one of someone on our can Arrest that
it's about halftime, Yeah, about half time, and we and
our early votes. We have Republicans that have voted early
in these key states like have never been seen before.
To give you a kind of a sense of that
that's we were. There were a million more uh registered

(01:22):
Democrats in Pennsylvania in twenty twenty that had voted more
than registered Republicans. That number now is four hundred thousand more.
So they have they have taken a six hundred thousand
vote deficit and erased it. H and you know that
race came down to less than a percentage point on
election days.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
I want it.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I want to start off the show today and ask you,
how are you feeling? You're nervous, maybe, yeah, little apprehensive?
How you how you feeling the day before the election?
You asking me or the as you feel?

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Great? I'm back, baby, I'm back.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Oh, I'm back.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
No, no, I was. I was sick as a dog last week.
I was so worried. I was just I was just
watching the poly markets plummet. I couldn't figure out why.
But I'm telling you, I'm seeing the rebound and I
think some good things have happened. I think there's been
a lot of positive movement and nothing, nothing says victory
more to me than Democrats that start to sound hysterical,

(02:17):
and they are starting to sound We have clips of
the governor of New York. I mean, you're not just
on American.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
You are.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
It's not it's just not American. If you vote, if
you don't vote for Kamala Harris, you are anti American,
is what she says. Now you've got you got Joe
Scarborough learning. Joe just wondering where any was ever raised
and how they were ever brought up to think such
a way and to vote was for such a person.
They're going crazy. They're going crazy, which I love to watch.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
What a question that is for him to ask today,
Joe Scarborough on the MSNBC, who raised you? You know
where I grew up? People like you weren't in my
neighborhood or my classroom. Yeah, so, Joe, where did you
grow up? Because because there are a lot of Americans
out there who are simply frustrated with what they see
going on in this country. What's the latest number? Seven

(03:06):
out of ten Americans feel the country is going in
the wrong direction. Greg So raising that question like who
raised you? A bunch of dogs?

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Joe Scarborough's moral superiority this man was a Republican congressman
from Florida, gets on that Morning Joe Show, decides he
wants to dump the wife and kids go for Micah,
wants to have a second marriage. I've been married thirty years.
Who raised him? Who raised him?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Good question?

Speaker 1 (03:28):
You know, how does he get to wag his finger
at this country? You know, he gets to now hang
with his co host and live the life of you know,
the Manhattan whatever. You know, Hody Tody, the wine and
cheese parties, a lot of money. And that guy used
to be a Republican congressman from California or from Florida.
We're conservative too, who's heated to ask where someone's been raised?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Well, you know, I'm still a little nervous because I
Democrats will do whatever it takes to him, yes, And
that's what makes me nervous. It makes me nervous that
the low information voter out there. We'll look at Kamala Harris, go, oh,
she's great, she's fantastic. Look at everything she is promising
us that she will do what But they'll vote for blind,

(04:10):
They'll just vote for her. So I'm a lunar, but
deep inside, I am so pulling for a whopper of events.
I mean, I want the American people to crush the system,
because that's what this race is all about. Greg In
my opinion, it's the American people against the system that
runs this country, that controls this country. I'm talking about

(04:32):
the bureaucrats, the legacy medium, the coastal elites, in my opinion,
are the ones right now who are running the country
and telling the American people what to do each and
every day of their lives. And the American people are
sick of it. They see Donald Trump changing it, and
I hope they stand up and vote tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, this is what should be scary about the decision
in front of us, in front of America. Joe Biden
was by a special prosecutor's conclusion, unfit to be tried
for taking classified documents out of then vice presidential quarters
and having classified documents and all of that. He said
that if he has such a bad memory, he'd be
seen as a confused old man and they wouldn't be

(05:11):
able to get a conviction while he's still president. Then
they said, we don't think he's compident enough to run,
so we're going to replace him. You know, in the
summertime with Kamala Harris, and he's still our president. So
it means that we don't have a functioning president at
the moment. We all known that. But if you can
get Kamala Harris elected, not only do you not need
to have a president, but you can put someone as

(05:32):
weak of a candidate up as Kamala Harris and then
they can earn, as you've pointed out, at least forty
eight forty nine percent of the vote, or maybe she'll
win the popular vote, who knows. And that's someone who
had the lowest approval rating of any vice presidential candidate,
probably including dan quayle Ever, And so I mean, what
does that say about We might like to rip on

(05:53):
the media, but they must have some kind of sway
over the general public to be to have someone as
unqualified as her, as strong as she appears even in
polls and everything else.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, she shouldn't be. She shouldn't be. Now another sidebar story,
of course, one of the stories over the weekend was
that all of a sudden, Kamala Harris showed up on
Saturday Night Live right, she did the opening skit. Well,
a commissioner with the FCC says wait a minute, you
cannot do that. There is this thing called fairness. And
if you're going to give this amount of time to

(06:24):
Kamala Harris, you have to do so to Donald Trump.
So guess what Donald Trump got? Basically one point seven
million dollars of free advertising on MSNBC. So smartly, Donald
Trump places it in the NASCAR race which ared yesterday
and Sunday night football, and here was his message.

Speaker 6 (06:44):
Hello to our great sports fans, and I hope you
having a fantastic time. We're two days away from the
most important election.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
In the history of our country. We've got to save
our country and indeed save me. It's in very bad shake.

Speaker 6 (06:58):
The worst economics numbers in generations were just announced two
days ago.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
We're losing jobs.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
We're losing everything, including viability. We're gonna end up in
a depression based on what's been happening. We've never seen
anything like it, at least for the last forty years.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
We have to straighten out our country.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
We have to close our borders, we have to lower
our taxes, we have to get rid of inflation, and
we're going.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
To do it.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Just remember Kamala and our friends broke it.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
I'll fix it most.

Speaker 6 (07:31):
Important election and the history of our country.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Go and vote.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Now, how big of an audience to Sunday Night football have?
Didn't you have the.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Number twenty million?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Tunny you Ina and NASCAR probably maybe half of that.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah, and then then Saturday Night five five million got
you one audience of twenty mili and I don't know
how many in the NASCAR audience. But I love. These
are things that when they were they were electioneering in
twenty twenty, nobody called them on. Nobody got any kind
of resolution from you're seeing it. I just saw right

(08:04):
before we went on the show. The Georgia State Supreme
Court has ruled that there isn't one county that will
be allowed. Fulton County, Atlanta won't be allowed to collect
ballots after election day and to continue to count them.
Imagine that.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Oh wow, yeah, Well, and they judge in Philadelphia's rule.
Do you know that thing Elon Musk was doing where
if you sign up for one of his pacts, he
could just randomly give you a million dollars. Well, of course,
Pennsylvania's attorney general went after him and said you can't
do that. Well, a federal judge just ruled today Oh,
yes he can, and he can do it through elections. Yes,

(08:40):
how would you like just throw around a million dollars
every day?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, it's fun because I've seen the pictures of
the families that have been and all they're doing is,
folks is they're registering to vote and they're also signing
a free freedom of speech petition. Yeah, and that earns
you a spot in the drawing. And those families that
get a million dollars, it's life changing. You can see
the circumstances. Can't see the circumstances, but you can imagine
when these families huddle around with the big check. It's

(09:04):
like publishers clearing house, but cooler.

Speaker 7 (09:06):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
It's just it's such a big deal and it's getting
people involved. It's grabbing people's attention in the right way.
It's better than Zuckerbucks that they quietly put into the
heaviest Democrat precincts in America's largest metropolitan areas in swing
states four years ago. This is nothing like that. This
is actually a very transparent and fun exercise that Elon

(09:27):
Musk is going through with the public.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Boy, do we have a lot to get to today.
Coming up next to the great Victor Davis Hanson will
join Ansen Don't Forget in less than two hours now
calling all you candidates. It's Rodd and Gregg's minute to
win it on election Eve, starting at six o'clock, we
will get any candidate calls into the station one minute
to make their final pitch to vote.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Have you ever had any dead air people? Not bother calling?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
The lines are always so candidates are ready, Yeah, they're
ready to go. They're ready to go. That's coming up
right here. Great to be with you on this Monday
on the Rotting Gregg Show in Utah stock Radio one
o five to nine knrs. The term fascist, mister husher
has been tossed around during this campaign. It has, it
has been bandied about for sure. Well joining us on

(10:13):
our newsbager line to talk more about this and the
impact it may or may not have had on this
campaign is a great Victor Davis Hanson. He's an author, historian.
Is always great to have Victor on the show. Victor,
how are you welcome to the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 5 (10:27):
I think a lot of honor should happen.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Victor, talk about this whole The name calling of being
a fascist seems to be bandied about. As Greg was
saying throughout this campaign, how do you think America's reacting
to this victor?

Speaker 5 (10:43):
I think they just want somebody to say, this candidate
owns up to what they think about the economy, of
the border crime in this candidate will be clear what
they think. And I think that Trump, whether you like
him or not, is clear what he wants to do.
And she knows that if she were to be clear,

(11:04):
she's not going to get elected. And so what happens
is he calls her a name, she calls him a name.
Biden gets in, and I think people are just tired
of the at home and they just want to say,
I want to vote for this person on about six issues,
and I want to know what each candidate feels and
if they'll just tell me, and I can see it's

(11:25):
true by their record, I will vote accordy, meaning but
I don't care about the name Colin, and I think
that's where we are, you.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Know, and I agree with you. The part that gets
harder for me, though, is when he'll say something and
you could take exception with what he says, how he
says it, but they don't take what he says about
warhawk Liz Cheney the way he means it, and it's
it's pretty clear when you listen to it in context
what he means. They want to say that he wants
to put Liz Cheney in front of a firing squad,

(11:52):
which is an absolute lie, and then you have some
go ahead.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
The same thing about the comment about the fake news.
He didn't say he wanted them to be assassinated. He
did not know he was the same thing about Charlottesville
that Obama's repeating them both sides flies.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
It's so strange Trump is that.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
Yeah. I think what happens is everybody says Trump if
Trump's if the people who want to vote for Trump
show up, he will win, and there's no doubt about it,
and they would say that Trump whatever I say this,
I wish he just wouldn't even get near of those
topics because he has winning issues, a winning record, and

(12:34):
he's got the majority, and he would say to me,
it doesn't matter Victor, because no matter what I say,
they're going to misinterpret and they're gonna lie about it.
And I'm out there sixteen hours a day, seven days
a week in the way they are not. And I've
gone through two impeachments. I've gone through lawfare getting my
name off the ballot they try to display and I'm

(12:57):
entitled to be a loose canon. That's his view, and
I tend to be sympathetic to it.

Speaker 7 (13:04):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
This to follow up though, and this is the part
that that over the weekend, we had a really we
had some listeners on Friday that were pretty upset about
the way this was being misconstrued. Uh, And it really
is an offense to men's men and women in military veterans,
their families, uh, the way that they have construed his comments.
But in speaking with people, I found it astounding that

(13:26):
nobody really picked up on the fact that the Democrat
Attorney General of Arizona said that he was pursuing or
looking into criminal charges against Donald Trump for saying this
about Liz Cheney. That is the exact uh, you know, retribution,
political retribution that they are on TV accusing Donald Trump
of an enemy's list, like you like you point out

(13:48):
so well in your article. But they're doing it Friday,
you're doing it last weekend, they're doing it through this weekend.
But I it's you have to point it out for
people to actually notice that they're doing the very thing
that they're accusing Trump of doing that he hasn't. Why
is that Why do you think that's the case.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Because they understand who they are and what they've done,
and they tried to push through an agenda that did
not have popular support through the power of the institutions
in which they control academica, Hollywood media, Silicon Valley, corporate boardroom,
and there's a revolt against it, and usually they get

(14:26):
a Lamney or McCaine or Bush that can be compromised
and go halfway. This guy can't need to complete the srupter,
and they want to destroy him any way they can.
And so they if you talk to them, they feel
that they are so morally superior and he is solely pregnant,
that they can justify any means necessary, morally, legally, anything,

(14:49):
because the end is so wonderful that they will stop
down Trump. And that's how they operate. And then what
makes people frustrated with Trump is not they're angry at him,
They just, you know, mister Trump, you have no margin
of air, and they're going to slander and smith you
and try to destroy you. But when you say things
that are not off topic, we understand why you're saying

(15:10):
them that they're going to use that to destroy you
even more. Please don't do that, not because we don't
want you to we don't want to hear it. But
we're worried about you, that's all. And that's why some
people are prone to get angry when he says that,
who are going to vote for him? My attitude, like
I said, is it doesn't matter to me because they're
going to say whatever they want to say about it

(15:31):
no matter what he says.

Speaker 8 (15:34):
That.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
The only problem with their control of the media that
he loses valuable twenty four hours, twelve hours, because he's
got a great argument that their unemployment just came out,
it's twelve percent, twelve thousand job. It was just it's
almost neanderthal. And then these immigrants just keep killing people,
and he's the only person in America who's talking about that,

(15:58):
and yet they are so ii that that topic not
be raised, and they have such control over the media.
But I just I don't want to be pessimistic. I
do really do feel that based on the more reliable
polls like Atlas Intel in the past or Rasmus in
the past a couple and based on the beast, catching

(16:21):
the closing, the margin on registrations, on early voting. That
and given the close race in twenty twenty, it's pretty
clear to me that Trump will win if the people
will turn out the vote. And I think they know that.
That's why they're doing things like this crazy Iowa poll
and Saturday Night Live and all in Biden. You know,

(16:44):
kickers rear in all this stuff. And now all of
a sudden, Harris is saying, oh, we're not going to
talk about Trump, We're going to talk about unity. Unity
after calling in fascist and all. If they know what
they know, they're losing. It's just now just in the
hands of the if you can get them all to
turn out, you'll win.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Yeah, Victor is always great chatting with you. I know
we'll be doing more of this down the road. Thank you, Victor,
Thank you for having me all right, Victor David, thank you, author,
historian talking about this this race. By the way, I
wanted to bring this up there. It's a story out
today real quick. The Washington Post isn't alone, Greg, Roughly
three quarters of major American newspapers around the country, very

(17:26):
large newspapers are not endorsing anyone for president this year.
So the Post is not alone in this now.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
And I think that I think that while most most
of the pundits we speak to on this program think
that nothing will change and they're going to double down
after an election if it were the case that Trump
were to win, I do think that there is some
They have got to look at what they're doing because
they are on a trajectory. They're in a hole. They
keep digging. They they could not have been more over
the top in this race, and the fact that Trump

(17:54):
is even close is an indictment on this on our regime,
media and everything that they do at this point.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Last time in twenty twenty, Joe Biden was a hit
by eight points.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
That's right, all right.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
More coming up, Rod and Greg with you here on
Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine KNRS.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
I don't even know where, Like I know, we have
our guest coming up here and we're going to talk
about again. We have to respond in a thoughtful way
to the news and the attacks that the that the
Democrats and the Kamala Harris campaign are lobbing at every voter,
every supporter of Donald Trump, those that might be at
self identify right of Center. They're saying that if you

(18:31):
care about this constitution, you cannot vote for Donald Trump.
He is a threat to at all. Yeah, and there's
just too much evidence out there that would suggest just
the opposite of that otherwise.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Mike McKenna and, a columnist at The Washington Times also
a president of MWR Strategy Sense, a political consulting firm,
wrote about this today. Michael, before we get into the
details of your article today, your general impressions about the
talk throughout this campaign about Donald Trump and threat to democracy?
What are your overall thoughts on them?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Michael?

Speaker 3 (19:01):
But it's damn dangerous. If you identify the other person
as a threat to democracy, that means his voters or
her voters are a threat to democracy and what happens
if they win, or what happens if they don't win.
I mean, you've essentially but half the country in a
box that that you you're telling, hey, you're not democratic.

(19:21):
It's it's the same thing as the fascism thing, right
from a week ago where she said, Hey, you're a fascist,
and I was like, that's really dangerous. Long term, that's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I couldn't agree more. And I wonder how how in
the world. This blee, this uh, this game plan is
going to work. I mean you you point out in
your article, you know deplorables, you know the clingers that
were holding onto their guns. You've got now fascists, you've
got garbage. We're all a bunch of garbage. To President Biden,
does this feel like a campaign that is succeeding. I

(19:55):
mean you've got even You've got even Barack Obama, former president,
browbeating h voters in Pennsylvania, shaming them because they're not
voting for Kamala Harris. Is this going to work? Do
you think no?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I mean, I've been in a lot of campaigns. I've
never seen one. I've never seen one. Now I've seen
a bunch where we're basically you insault the guys at
the end of the campaign, like, Hey, if you disagree
with me, you're a bad person, you're a fascist, you're
a piece of garbage, you're a bitter clinger, you're a deplorable.
You know the thing is, it's gotten worse. You know,
Hillary Clinton just identified half of the folks who opposed

(20:30):
her as deplorables. But you know, Joe Biden like took
it a step up. Was I your old garbage.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
Everybody.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It's it's the oddest closing pitch I've ever run across, Mike,
Nobody has ever explained, you know, this term threat to democracy?

Speaker 2 (20:48):
How in the liberal or progressive point of view, is
Donald Trump a threat to democracy? What are they so
afraid of?

Speaker 3 (20:57):
So sawl Olinsky? Right was a uh was a well
he was a Marxist.

Speaker 7 (21:02):
Right he was a.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Collectivist that he was a philosophy I asked, so Saul wrote,
you know, he wrote a book, right, rules for radicals,
And write in there rules for radicals is accuse them
of what you know. You are right, if you're if
you're concerned about being exposed to something, accused somebody else
of being And and the truth of the matter is,
if you look at which science of threat to democracy,

(21:24):
only one side has used the FBI to spy on
their political enemies, the Catholic Church, the media, Senate staff.
Only only one has used the United States legal system
to harass And that's the only word you can really
use for it to harass the former president simply because

(21:44):
you don't like him and you're afraid he's gonna run again,
you know. And that was you know, That's my general
theory is. You know, President Trump talks a lot, That's
what he does, right, He talks a lot, but in
reality he hadn't done a single thing like that. But
you know, the Democrats have now done it across across
three different administrations, and at a certain point you've got

(22:07):
to call it for what it is. You know, I'm
not saying all the Democrats that I know are threats
to democracy, but I am saying that the people who
recruited the FBI, that the people who recruited the IRF,
and that the people who destroyed possible evidence, those guys
are really threats to democracy. They've actually done things. Now,

(22:29):
so far we've gotten out of President Trump is a
lot of yak, right, a lot of talk, but nothing no.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Action, you know, And I go back to last week's
news cycle where they construed and the intellectual yoga you
would have to do to take Donald Trump's really critical
comments of warhawk Liz Cheney asking her if she'd like
to be in a you know, staring down barrels and

(22:55):
guns pointed at her and everything else with a rifle
to construe that as a fireing squad. Because the last
time I checked. No one in a firing squad is
armed with a gun, as his premise began. But you
saw the media just jump on this firing squad and this,
you know, execute your enemies. But then you had the
Arizona Attorney general, who's a Democrat state, within hours of

(23:15):
that news cycle that he was looking into criminally charging
the former president. Why I feel like I have to
explain that over the weekend to friends. I have to
say no, no, no, you don't have you don't have
to be afraid that Trump is going to, you know,
politically go after his enemies. You're seeing it in real time.
Why aren't you noticing it? Why is it that some
of these things that happened where the attorney general of

(23:37):
Arizona is going to look to charge him criminally for
his comments about his chainey which is all which are
all contrived. Why does that not get more attention? Like,
my goodness, they're coming after him criminally. They're political enemies.
Where's the disconnect?

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Yeah, you know, for the last eight years, in the
wake of the twenty sixteen election, for the last eight years,
America has been a Trump yes, Trump no country. And
if your Trump no a priory he is guilty of everything, right,
it doesn't even matter.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I had a.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Conversation with a friend of mine who's a lawyer, and
you know, I said, look, only one side is the
borning the rule of law here, right, and it's not Trump.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
It's your guy.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
He got very upset, right, And that's the problem, right,
because they're blinded. Hatred does this to people, right, It
blinds them, and that's what you're seeing a lot of
They can't they can't take a step back and rationally
say what's going on here? What's going on?

Speaker 9 (24:35):
What?

Speaker 7 (24:35):
What?

Speaker 3 (24:35):
What in the world is going on? We're an attorney
general theoretically a product of a democratic process. It's detoorriented
his way to vitiate the First Amendment in a campaign context.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yes, it's crazy talk.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
It's crazy talk, but that's where we are. And you
know what, no matter what happens tomorrow, that's where we're
going to be until until mister Trump dies. Probably it's unfortunate,
but it's true.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Final question, Mike, any prediction about tomorrow and the outcome?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah? Yeah, I think President Trump's going to win. I
think I thought that all along. Right, This again a
Trump yes Trump no campaign, Like we've had a very
steady state campaign for ten months. I think Trump's always
had an advantage. He's underestimated in the surveys. You know,
Republican registration is up and now matching Democrats. You know,

(25:28):
the trajectory seems to be going in his direction. There's
a whole bunch of things going in the right way.
And at the end of the day, he's got the
commanding heights on the economy and immigration, and those are
their first two issues. And you know, galloped it in
nice analysis a week ago and they said, look, everybody
who's who's been identified as being better on the most

(25:49):
important issue right on the presidential election has won the
race since nineteen fifty two.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I see no reason why this is going to be
any different.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Mike, thanks for joining us. I like McKenna, a columnist
with The Washington Times, also has his own political consulting
firm known as mw R Strategies. More coming up here
on The Rodden greg Show. In Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine knrs Ryan Brooker from Brookers Founding Flavors
of ice Cream taking center stage today here on The
Rotten Gregg Show. Now we talked about the ice cream

(26:21):
itself and what makes it so different. But there's exciting
news as well. You have started franchising.

Speaker 10 (26:26):
Yes, Rob, when I was on last time, we were
ramping up to it, but we now started. In the
last week and a half alone, we've sold seven franchises
here in Utah.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Wow. Wow, Now if people wanted me in Uto, you see,
you got to hurry fast, folks, because they're going like that.

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (26:41):
We've had folks interested since we've opened. You know, Glenn
Beck talked about us on his radio program way back
in twenty nineteen. In twenty twenty, and we've had a
lot of people interested. But it's at this point it's
kind of act. Now, don't delay with seven in Utah.
We're not packing these in like McDonald's locations. We're gonna
put them, you know, fairly spaced out. So Utah is

(27:02):
going to go like that. You know, all the spots
are going to be purchased.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Yeah. How selective are you in awarding these franchises. You're
looking for people who want Brent, really believe in the
product first, but also love our country. Correct.

Speaker 10 (27:15):
Yeah, No, when I get on the phone and I'm
interviewing folks, we are awarding these franchises. We're being selective
because I think about what kind of franchise community would
I want to be a part of. And so we're
looking for folks who love American history. I love America's founding,
they love ice cream, and we're creating a really great
fun group that you know, people aren't just making money.

(27:37):
It's not just a great investment. But who are they
going to be hanging out with for the next ten years,
what kind of extent.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
I'm not taking any other scenario anymore. I'm done trying
to be cautious. Yeah, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Just go for it. I'm ready, minute to win, minute
to win it. Coming up with six pm for all
you candidates. You're on Utah's talk radio one oh five
nine Cannaists.

Speaker 9 (27:57):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
Listen to this. Tell me this is.

Speaker 11 (28:00):
It gave me a chance to tie the Republicans running
the seats the cumments closer to Donald Trump. And remind everybody,
if you're voting for these Republicans in New York, you're
voting for someone who supports Donald Trump. And you're anti woman,
your anti abortion, and basically you're anti American because you
have just trashed American values and what Our country is

(28:22):
all about, over and.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Over and over. You're anti If you vote, you're not American.
If you are not even un American, you are anti American.
If you don't vote for Kamala Harris, if you don't
vote for who she says to vote for. This is
the governor of the state of New York. Now tell
me you're going to put her shoulder to shoulder with
some comedian five hours, three hours before Trump hits the

(28:43):
stage a masson Square Garden. Say this comedian talking about
Puerto Rico is the equivalent of Trump saying it. You
got the governor of the one of the largest states
in this nation saying you're anti American if you support Trump.
You got the President of the United States Biden calling
us trash those that support Trump. This is again you're
seeing them melt down in real time. That was over
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Yeah, I have I have a lot of family in
way upstate New York, now Central New York, but state
New York. Uh, there are a lot of Trump fans
up there. There are a lot of Trump walls or
Trump vans signs all all around that part of New
York State. I don't know if they would take kindly
to being called what they've been called. As a matter
of fact, these are people who who wear ball caps,

(29:25):
wear a lot of flannel.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
I'd like to go hunting.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
That's right. The New York Post headline has the picture
of a Hokul after she says this as Gove and
hate like off of love and hate, Hoke will vote
for GOP in New York is anti American And uh yeah,
that's how. That's the kind of contempt they have for
you folks.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
And what are people who support Trump always being called
not very civil? You called this civil?

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Yeah? Does that? Do they ever look the other way?
Is this ever unseemly what they say?

Speaker 12 (29:55):
And do?

Speaker 7 (29:56):
No?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Another full hour Rod and Gray coming your way. You're
on talk radio one Canner.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
I stay with us that even Magas supporters have a
lot to worry about. If he wins, boy, you're gonna
get and you're going to be roused out and he's
gonna he's gonna take you out. That's what Paul Krugman's
warrant and everyone about today.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
We know what we think about Paul Krugman. Hey, before
we go to our next interview, interesting comment today on CNBC.
This is from a former top Trump administration official, and
he told the host today, Joe Kernin, that a lot
of voters who back former President Donald Trump were Democrats
in the twenty two thousand and four election. The comment

(30:37):
came from former Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Jay Clayton.
Listen to him talking about Trump voters today.

Speaker 13 (30:44):
The Trump voter is a different voter today than the
Republican voter of twenty years ago. In fact, the Trump
voter of today was a Democratic voter of twenty.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Years any of them.

Speaker 13 (30:55):
And going back to Pennsylvania, if you get those people
in the middle of state, blue collar job, middle class
people to turn out, then Trump wins.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
And it's very hard.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
It's very hard for polsters to do that because it's new,
it's not patterns that you've seen in the past.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Is the Trump voter an old Democrat voter?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, well, twenty every day American, And I would argue
that the working class to everyday Americans, through tradition and practice,
had not seen themselves as conservatives per se. They were
the working class, and the Democrats were known fair or unfair,
true or not to be the party for the working class.
There has been a major political shift that has happened,

(31:33):
and it's a good one as far as I'm concerned.
I always felt that the Republicans were for the everyday person,
and I felt that Democrats hid the ball. Well, Democrats
don't hide the ball anymore. They tell you right where
they are, and they tell you how much they don't
like you and how little they think of you. And
I think that you've got a party now with the
Republican Party that is a populist party, but not populist
in where are people going so we can lead them there.

(31:54):
It is a popular it is the populace of this nation.
It is their party, which you know, I think is
a great thing. I've always believed in equal opportunity, not
equal outcome. We'll imagine that in the end.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Well, I think the last time we spoke to our
next guest, he was almost in the eye of a hurricane,
as I recall. Joining us on our Newsmaker line right
now is Brian Enton. He is News Nation senior national correspondent.
He has just wrapped up greg a cross country trip.
It came even through Utah and he talked to people
about the race and it's great to have Brian on

(32:25):
the show. Brian, thanks for joining us tonight. You just
finished up across country tour. What are your thoughts as
we get ready to vote tomorrow?

Speaker 9 (32:32):
Oh gosh, it just depends where you go.

Speaker 14 (32:34):
You know.

Speaker 15 (32:34):
We start, we did this road trip across the country
talking to voters. We started New Jersey, we ended in California.
We went through most of the swing states. We went
through Utah, by the way, which was beautiful, probably the
most beautiful state.

Speaker 9 (32:46):
I would say, thank you. But it just depended where
you were.

Speaker 15 (32:51):
You know, like in Michigan with the auto workers, there
was a real focus on the economy. There were a
lot of people who really liked Kamala Harris, but at
the same time had bigger paychecks that are Trump and
were kind of torn which the way they were going
to go.

Speaker 9 (33:04):
You know, Pennsylvania was interesting.

Speaker 15 (33:06):
In New Jersey, we talked to a lot of suburban
women who a lot of them were very passionate about
the abortion issue. Again, it just kind of varied in
different parts of the country.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
So, Brian, glad you're doing well. By the way. I
think last time we talked to you, you were storm chasing
and you were like you're gonna hunker down in like
a structured parking lot.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
And we never heard of back a different kind of storm.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
This is a very different storm. So here's what we're seeing.
It looks like the Trump campaign as a Trump as
a campaign. Of addition, it looks like there's Union members
that are willing to vote and even publicly state their
support for Trump that you've not seen in the past.
Latino votes, minority votes, the men thirty years of age

(33:47):
and younger were in your trip. Did you see any
of those trends. Did you hear any of those sentiments
that have been talked about nationally where atypical voting blocks
might be talking about and considering to vote for Trump.

Speaker 15 (34:00):
We did, like we went to a couple of barbershops
in African American neighborhoods in Philly, and you know, predominantly
black men who we talked to there who a lot
of them, I would say about half.

Speaker 9 (34:11):
Were planning to vote for Trump.

Speaker 15 (34:13):
And a lot of them were lifelong Democrats who just
felt they felt like neglected by the Democratic Party taken
for granted. And also there's a lot of crime in
some of these cities like Philly, Detroit.

Speaker 9 (34:24):
You know, they've had break.

Speaker 15 (34:25):
Ins at their shops and they don't feel like the
government has done enough to keep their neighborhoods safe, which
was pushing them over the edge to.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
Vote for Trump.

Speaker 15 (34:35):
Which is interesting to talk to them because they were
excited about the prospect of a first black woman president,
but at the same time they were just you know,
crime is out of control in Philly. I don't know
if you've been there lately, but you know, for the
small business owners, it's really had an impact, and that
seemed to be sort of swaying them there.

Speaker 16 (34:52):
Brian.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
The issues that have been identified as some of the
top issues in this campaign, of course, are the economy, immigration, crime, abortion.
Did did all of those come up during your travels
around the country? Depending on where you were.

Speaker 9 (35:06):
They did?

Speaker 15 (35:07):
I mean the economy, grocery prices, I would say number one,
regardless of where we were. I mean, we had people
literally breakdown in tears talking to us about how they
can't save money anymore. You know, they live out with
what they spent at the grocery store. Abortion, I would say,
came up over and over again.

Speaker 9 (35:25):
With women. That's obviously going to be a big issue
with women.

Speaker 15 (35:28):
There were lifelong Republicans who we spoke to who say
they were going to vote Democrat for the very first
time just on that.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
Issue, which was interesting.

Speaker 15 (35:36):
And then the border comes up everywhere, I mean everywhere.
We went to Nevada, which is obviously a big swing state,
and you know, the Latino population is huge there, It's
like twenty five percent of voters. And what's so fascinating
is they're i mean among the most upset about the
border of everyone that we talked to, just saying, look like,
we did it the right way. We don't like what

(35:57):
we're seeing. These people need to come in legally the
way we had to do it, and they were very
very passionate about it.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Sometimes I hear the issues of illegal immigration, cartels or
what have you with public public safety, which you mentioned
you heard a lot when you were at the barbershops.
Do those issues merge maybe into one bigger issue, and
a lot of the places that you visited public safety
and illegal immigration.

Speaker 9 (36:23):
I think they do.

Speaker 15 (36:24):
Just going back to I was just thinking back to
a couple of people that we talked to in Nevada
who were very upset about the situation at the border
and wanted it to be shut down, but at the
same time didn't really like the like the way migrants
overall were being portrayed in terms of them all being criminals,
because I mean, I've been down there a ton for
stories too.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
You know.

Speaker 15 (36:43):
For the most part, you do see like families trying
to cross, you know, or men trying to find jobs.

Speaker 9 (36:51):
It's not all criminals.

Speaker 15 (36:52):
And even though they wanted it to be clamped down,
a lot of the Latinos we spoke to who were
voting in Nevada like they at the same time didn't
really like the rhetoric and the portrayal of them all
as like cartel members.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
In your trip across America, did anything surprise you, Brian
that you weren't expecting.

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Oh, that's a good question, you know.

Speaker 15 (37:11):
I think what surprised me And I hate to say
this because I think I got sucked into, but is
if you watch like Fox or MSNBC or some of
these channels, you know, you just feel like everybody hates
each other, and it's there. They were on the brink
of a civil war, and I was reflecting after our
full drive and just talking to so many voters on
both sides and people in the middle you know, most

(37:35):
people kind of like each other for the most part
and have a lot in common, and have like neighbors
and friends who are Democrats if they're Republicans, and vice versa.
And I just think it gets overblown that Americans are
at each other's throats that.

Speaker 9 (37:49):
Much in real life.

Speaker 15 (37:51):
I mean, on TV, yes, but in real life, I
think people kind of do. It sounds cheesy, but my
impression was people do kind of just want to get along.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
You saying that, because you know, I have family that
with different political opinions, and I do, I do worry
about that. And I think I watched some of the
news on both sides, and you see how just polarizing
it all can be.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
It.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
I like hearing that you've traveled and been so in
so many different environments and it looks like people can
agree to disagree even as they hold these different opinions.
Last question, did you feel any momentum? Is there any
any predictions that you can make after spending time and
how many different states and how many different you know, shops,
barbershops and wherever you are.

Speaker 15 (38:33):
I mean, my friend just texted funny right before I
got on with you. My friend just texted me, So,
what do you think is going to happen. I've kind
of like had feelings both ways, just depending on what
states were in. At one point, I'm like, gosh, I
really think Trump is going to win, and just space
on all these people we've talked to, and then the
next day, you know, you'll be in a different place
and get a different vibe.

Speaker 9 (38:48):
So I really don't know. I really do think it's going.

Speaker 15 (38:50):
To be so close, which is in some ways you
almost want there to be a landslide one way or
the other, just so that it can be said and
done with. And you know, it's like if it's so close,
you know both sides are going to want to fight it.
So I wish I could give you an answer on that.

Speaker 9 (39:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (39:05):
I'm in North Carolina now, which is of course the
swing state, and you know, seeing plenty of Trump supporters
and plenty of plenty of Hair supports, and it's just
hard to tell.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Me.

Speaker 15 (39:15):
Like a place like North Carolina, so many people have
moved in the last couple of years, same with Nevada.

Speaker 9 (39:18):
They moved to these states. It's hard to really know.

Speaker 15 (39:21):
There's so many new people in the population, you know,
to really know exactly what's going to happen.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Brian, Thank you very much for joining us on our
newsmaker line. Interesting comment that Brian made, and I appreciate
him saying that as if you go as you go
across the country, Greg, we don't hate each brother each
other as much as maybe the media claims that we do.

Speaker 7 (39:40):
No.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
I've run into people that I know and some people
that I don't know very well that we were seeing
this election differently and we're not just screaming and yelling
at each other. And I'm telling you that what I
don't see from a governor from New York where there
is any room for someone to have a different opinion
from hers. You are anti American if you're not ready
to fill out your out the way she's going to

(40:01):
fill out hers. Or this Joe Scarborough who wants to
know who you re raised you and where were you
brought up, if you would ever vote differently than him
when you talk to every day people, we're all giving
each other some space to see the world a bit differently.
And I know I I do think the consequences are
pretty dire if she wins. Yeah, that's it. I respect

(40:21):
human beings that look at the same issues I'm looking
at and if they have a different take, you know,
I'm not. I'm not screaming at him.

Speaker 16 (40:28):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I'm not. It doesn't bring me to anger. And I
like that he said that he sees that he can
go to a barbershop, you go somewhere and people have
legitimately different opinions on where who they're going to vote for,
but they can still sit in the same room together.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Yeah, and we won't call others garbage the way some
people ask. Yeah, all right, garbage. More coming out on
the Rodin Greg Show here on Utah's Talk Radio one
O five nine k n RS.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You know you got to You're gonna have to scrape
me off this floor tomorrow night. If this doesn't go
how I expect it to go. I'm telling you, I've
I've I tried so hard to be objective and just
you know, pace myself. Nope, I'm in, man, He's got
to win the seat up, pull this off. Yeah, I'm
all in. I can't think of it any other way.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Well, I've got to play this for you. The Trump campaign,
which I think, Greg, I don't know if you agree
with me. I think the campaign has run a masterful campaign. Yes,
I think it is so much better than it was
in twenty much better than it was in twenty sixteen.
I mean really dialed in well. The campaign released video today.
You'll love this. It perfectly illustrates Kamala Harris's biggest liability

(41:35):
heading into the election day, her rampant, often comical inauthenticity
and you know you'll know who she is.

Speaker 9 (41:43):
Right.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
But here's what they did. They took one segment from
three different speeches given by Harris in the last few
weeks and then overlaid them. Okay, the result was almost disturbing.
You can hear Harris not only repent the words verbatim
the same tone and inflections, but her head and hand
movements or even for choreograph. Let's do this, gregt are you.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Ready to make the voices her?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Do?

Speaker 17 (42:11):
We believe it?

Speaker 12 (42:12):
For?

Speaker 17 (42:15):
We believe?

Speaker 18 (42:19):
Wait?

Speaker 1 (42:33):
Freaky it is? You know what I love? Though they
started this in the in the Democrat National Convention. You know,
I thought they use our when when Trump said fight fight,
fight like fight, you know, don't let them beat us.
They can't beat us, that they would use it. Oh,
he's so violent, he's so violent. But then what they
do when we fight, we win. They use the word
fight and they've been running with it ever since. So
anytime anyone says, you know, Trump uses the word fight

(42:56):
and that could be so scary, just say yeah, and
she says, and we fight, we win. So they've been
they've been embracing the fight as much as the Trump
campaign has. But he gets to talk. And I don't
think you could ever put any of his his rallies
and overlay them and have it bade him the same.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
No, no, not with Trump, because he goes. He's authentic,
and I think the beauty of this campaign for Donald
Trump is gregan. I think we mentioned this last week.
His campaign has been smart enough to allow Donald Trump
to be Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
They didn't try and control them. They were there with
quick responses if anything ever came up. But they allowed
Donald Trump to be Donald Trump. And that's what people
either love or hate about Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
And some and hind you know, we'll have to look. Look,
this is the best campaign, without regard to whether he
wins it or not. I think this is his strongest
and most compelling campaign. He certainly brought more coalitions together
on his side this time than we've seen in the past.
But I think that, however, they were able to put
good information in front of him of him and let
Donald be Donald Trump be Trump and really talk about

(43:59):
the things, because theest scare we had, I had was
it he would just not let go of the twenty
twenty results. Yeah, and keep talking about that while we
have grocery stores that are just breaking people. We have
the cost of living going up, we have you know,
jobs that are hard to find. We have so much
going on, and we while we understand what happened in
twenty twenty, we really needed to see someone who could
embrace the success of the past and have a vision

(44:21):
for the forward and going forward. And I think he
has embraced that well. And I think he's done it
his unique way.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, he sure has. All right more to come here
on the Rod and Gregg Show, don't forget and let's
see about thirty three minutes from now, we'll start Rodd
and Gregg's Minute to Win It. So get ready to
call in all you candidates and let us know and
let the voters know where you stand. The night before
the election that's coming up on Rod and Gregg's minute
to win it right here on Talk Radio one O
five nine K and rs Man.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Don't look past. There's nothing in this world before Philip passed. Afterward, Tomorrow,
only tomorrow. We only live for tomorrow. I know no
life after tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Are I'm going to have to appel you off the
wall or something?

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Here?

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Tomorrow is a huge day. Yeah, it's just it's a
very very big day. Well, let me have to be
ready for let me lay out what's going to happen tomorrow.
We're going to break a little early from the show
at six o'clock. We'll pick up national coverage and we'll
be on our national coverage from iHeart programming up until
eight o'clock and then Greg and I and Abby will
be back with you kind of handicapping all the races.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Here in Utah, the polls close at eight o'clock tomorrow,
and I'm like you, I'm going to go vote the
old fashioned way tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
I love voting in person. I love old sticker. I'll
tak my boys with me. He's going to vote with
me tomorrow. But I like to thank the judges for
being there. Like some judges that are there, I think
i'd like to do.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
That someday when I have nothing better to do than
maybe a talk show.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
It's always nice. Well, you and I are team, you
know you you can do this for a long time. Yes,
and uh, but no, it's it's I love the pageantry,
I love the tradition of going in and voting. I'm
just hoping the line is not too long, all right.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
You know, another key factor in this campaign has been
the media and how the media has been so supportive
of Joe Biden and then Kamala Harris. This is a
woman who dropped out of her first primary back in
twenty nineteen. This is a woman who has not received
a single vote to be the nominee of the Democratic Party,
yet she is leading that party into the election tomorrow.

(46:22):
So what has happened and what about the media? Well,
joining us on our Newsmaker line is Jeff Lord. Jeff
is right for the American Spectator, a good friend of
the program. Jeff, welcome back to the Rod and Greig Joe.
I want to ask you, first of all, Jeff, the
real loser in this campaign. Do you think it's the media?

Speaker 14 (46:38):
Yes, it is Ron and I've written a little bit
about this. I think Finally, the American people have just
had enough. And what I find so interesting about this
is that with twenty first century technology, they don't need
to listen to it anymore. Then what happens is they've
listened to they pick a podcast if they want to
listen to somewhere out there. You know, long in the

(47:01):
days when everybody hung on the words Walter Cronkite was saying,
always ending with and that's the way it is. It's
not the way it is that. I think there are
a lot of Americans out there who've just had it
with all of this, and this just in the last
couple of days, this business of Liz Chaining, and Trump

(47:24):
makes a statement about her that was clearly going after
her for what he perceives as her being a war hawk,
somebody who sends off other kids, other Americans kids, and
doesn't go herself and has no stake in it, and
that was clearly what he meant. Well, you know this
got translated as to Liz Chaining is being threatened with

(47:46):
execution by Trump. Well it was such pologing, such hobwash.
But that's typical of how.

Speaker 19 (47:54):
This kind of thing is done.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
And it's not good, you know, to highlight your point.
We covered this story on Friday and the idea that
the men and women that are put in harm's way
in our military deployed around the world, the warhawks that
send them, the families that deal with this, they are
not the victims, the families, the members of the military. No,
Liz Cheney was the victim in this news cycle. We

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had a lot of callers that called in and they
were quite emotional about this, and many said, I don't
even go through the roller coaster of hearing fake news
and then finding out the truth later because I've abandoned
long ago the regime media or the traditional media. If
this election, let me just be a little bullish here,
if Trump were to win, what is the future for

(48:38):
our mainstream or regime media, do you think?

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Well?

Speaker 14 (48:43):
I am a little concerned because I think, assuming he wins,
I think they're going to go after him from the
moment he's declared the official winner, and that does not
vote well for the next four years reporting objectively and
honestly on whatever events of the day have occurred. I

(49:06):
think it's all going to be about getting trumped. And
I noticed are just doing a little research today, I
noticed that in Congress on the Democrat side Maryland, Jamie Raskin,
who hates him, is already exploring how to impeach him,
and he hasn't even been elected yet.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Jeff Greg pointed this out last week when we were
talking about this. In many cases, I think this is
a fight for people who support Donald Trump against the system.
And part of the system is the legacy media.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
Right.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Jeff and Greg pointed out that last week, you know
who is the media getting his talking points from? Because
they basically all say the same thing when they're covering
a story like the Liz Cheney story. Where are the
talking points coming from? And they all just spew the
same exact thing.

Speaker 14 (49:57):
I think, Rod, they all exist inside a look world bubble,
a left wing bubble, and you know, you know me,
I'm in a history and I went back a book
that I read when I was a kid, The Making
of the President nineteen sixty by the legendary late reporter
Theodore H. White. Oh yeah, one of two of the Wise.

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It was all about behind the scenes going on in
the nineteen sixty Kennedy Dixon campaign. Well, he has a
he makes a point of saying towards the end of
the book as they're approaching election night that he talks
about the press corps that was assigned to cover JFK

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and how they'd sit on the campaign bus with JFK,
or they'd be on his campaign plane and they were
all singing like they were soldiers. His words were something
like soldiers of the New front marching on to the
new frontier, meaning they were all in JFK's pocket. Well,
that's nineteen sixty. That would be a very long time ago.

(50:59):
And I don't think not only has anything changed, I
think it's gotten worse.

Speaker 8 (51:05):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
Again, I go back to and this is just I
think you pointed out well in your article when they
when they wring their hands about the violent war imagery
that Donald Trump is describing, Well, that's what we're sending
our kids into would be that very those very words
and those very descriptions. So if you find them uncomfortable,

(51:25):
it's because what's going on when you deploy our military
around the world is more and worse than uncomfortable. But
let me ask you this, Jeff Bezos, you know who's
you know, the topic of your column. He kind of
calls us out. He called some of this even before
it got really bad last week, saying, look that people
are getting their information from long form podcasts and and

(51:47):
you know, other sources other than the Washington Post and
other media, established media. And he didn't like that. It
sounds like you don't think that they're going to this
tiger is going to change its stripes, that even if
is looking at this thinking he needs to do something
different for the paper, they're not going to be able
to break the habit.

Speaker 14 (52:09):
Well, I just think, as I say, that technology is
going to help the habit be broken, whether they wanted
to or not. And you know me, it was interesting.
I interviewed then private citizen Donald Trump all the way
back there in twenty fourteen. It was for the American Spectator,
and I said to him, there were plenty of Republicans

(52:30):
at the grassroots level who just are infuriated that they
nominate somebody for president. And I'll last two cycles previous
art of conversation. Of course, it was Rodney and the game,
and they then attacked in the media, and they don't
do anything, they don't fight back. And I said, what
will you do if you get nominated when something.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
Like this happens?

Speaker 14 (52:52):
And he said to me, I have this on tape somewhere.
Oh no, don't worry, I'll fight back, he says, of course,
I'm going to fight back. And he went on this
extended talk about how he had been targeted for a fake,
fake media story concerning a fired coach in Los Angeles

(53:12):
to our owner of the Los Angeles Lakers or some
team or whatever, and the guy had been end as
a racist for saying something and which apparently was accurate
in terms of that quote. But then they went to
Trump for a comment and he said, you know, all
this sort of stuff that was right on point with

(53:33):
what everybody else was saying, and then added at the
very end, aside from which he has the girlfriend from hell, well,
the media focused on that and nothing else that he said.
He was really upset with it and said, you know,
their phonies, their face. It was the first time I
ever heard somebody call the media fake news.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
And it was from him, Jeff Lord joining us from
the American Spectator, talking about the media. And I think Greg,
the of you know, the candidate, certainly one's going to win,
one's going to lose. Another loser in this campaign this
year has really been the media. I mean, they are
so Kamala focused, Biden focused everything anti Trump. The American people,

(54:17):
they don't just truy, they don't trust him anymore. Well,
they'll be rewarded.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
If Kamala Harris can run a campaign without specificity, without anything,
she can just talk these talking points and really have
done that way with it and become the first female
president of the United States of America, then then the
media is emboldened by what they've just done to us.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
And so yeah, Accios today called her the no comment president.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Comment in anything, and you know they they want to
hear her say more liberal pronounce more liberal policy agendas.
But she's not because she doesn't want to offend anyone.
She just wants to try to keep everybody placated until
if she gets in. And I I really don't see
the media changing if she succeeds, But if she doesn't,
I do think there's I think there's a chance that

(54:59):
they have they sober up a little bit and we'll see.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
All Right, more coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah's talk ready on one oh five nine. Okay,
n ars and if you want to call now, you
candidates to get in early because the lines do clog
up very fast. You can call us right now eight
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(55:23):
a minute to win it. Now, how this works? Greg,
because I know you're beauty.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
I'm I'm waiting with our listeners. I've never done this.
Tell me how this works.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
What we're going to do is as a caller come in,
comes in, We'll ask you to state your name, name,
what position you're running, what political office see game, and
then we'll give you sixty seconds yep. Then we'll give
you sixty seconds to state your case.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
If it's if it's like house, you got to give
the district number. Yeah, you may count teammates very specific
so you can help voters. Yes, that's what we want
you to do. So that's actually good to let people
know you got to district.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
As county commissioner whatever.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
This show's brought cast all over Utah seventy at least
seventy five percent of the Utah's population can hear this program.
So be very specific of your name and the office
in which you seek. What county that might be in.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
And we provide you with no coaching, So you're on
your own on this one. Boys and girls, we ain't
helping because we're gonna let you fry if you But
most people do it within sixty seconds. Sometimes you have
to say. Is that all you got to say? And
they may be done in thirty.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Is it too much to say that if you have
a district, you might want to include the areas the
geographic areas of that.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
History, but they should just say the district. I don't
want to give more than sixty seconds.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
Well, no, they have to do in the six seconds
you want people to know they want to if they
got to know.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
How District forty nine in South Jordan, that'd be fine.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Okay, something like that, all right, So name that's on
Herealytical running you're on our list right now.

Speaker 2 (56:49):
Well that's because we don't want they're going to tell us. Okay, okay, okay,
you got it? Are you going to mess this up?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Now? I'm not going to mess it up. I just
you forget my gong ready, and just in case you
get a rogue, this can.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Become a Utah election tradition, all right, So don't screw
it up.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
But I'm gonna tell you this be my first time.
I respect these listeners and I will not let them
listen to blather. I will not. I know these listen
are they are the smartest listening audience in all the world,
and we are not going to subject them to craziness.
So if we get some go kamala, I'm gonging them.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
If they want to say go Kamala, they can say
go kamala. This is this is nonpartisan. Try to teach
you that, Try to teach you that invite you to
understand that this is all about all right, you know
it's a community service on the part of Rodd and Greg.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
All right, Okay, maybe I don't know. I still haven't decided.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
So here's the number to call it right now.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
I don't think we'll get crazy, can no?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero. Rod
and Gregg's minute to win it coming.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Out eight eight eight sixty seconds five.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
Seven eight zero one. You'll have one minute, be authentic,
date your cakes, we get to your calls. Call right now.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
I got empathy for you. I've been here, done that.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
You have, all right, Mark coming up, Rodd and Gregg's
minute to win It.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It's coming up.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Stay with us. It used to be Rod's Minute to
Win It, but now you've kind of joined the party.
It sounds so you know, sad about it, so excited.
It is called Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It.
So here's what we do. We open the phones to
any candidate, no matter what their party affiliation is. We
open the lines to you for this entire hour. We

(58:25):
invite you to call this number eight eight eight five
seven oh eight zero one zero and Greg and I
will give you exactly one minute to make your final
appeal to voters. It's always fun and challenging for some people, Greg,
because over the years, as we've done this, some can
do it, some can't.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
All right, so let's get it. So I'm the newbie,
so I'm going to start this party. So I'm going
to start right now. We're going to go straight to
the phones. We're going to go to Diane Livingston. Diane,
welcome to the Rod and Greg. Show state your name,
your race that you're running for, and give us your pitch.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Okay, Jane very much.

Speaker 20 (59:00):
This is Diane Livingston. I'm running for State school Board
District six. Eastern Salt Lake No Creek Holiday in Park City.
So I'm a former teacher. I'm also a mother of
children who've graduated in public education. I'm a historian and
a substitute when I'm not a candidate, that is.

Speaker 12 (59:19):
And I'm running.

Speaker 20 (59:20):
Unaffiliated with a host of setting politics aside, working with
Democrats and Republicans to solve important problems that we have
in education today. So I've noticed as that campaign that
there's a wide gap between the state and the local
leaders in our district.

Speaker 12 (59:37):
I want to be different.

Speaker 20 (59:38):
I want to be there in school so that if
we have policy, when we have policy that we're talking about,
I'll know where our leaders stand. So I'm offering a
fresh perspective, new legs on the court, so to speak.
And I asked that your listeners vote for me. Diane
Livingston State School Board.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Wow, wow, I mean she perfect. She has ailed that
great job that one.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
All right, back to the falls. Let's go to Fred
Cox Bred. How are you state your name and what
position you're running for? Fred?

Speaker 16 (01:00:12):
Hi, good evening. My name is Fred Cox. I'm running
for the Utah House District thirty, which is in West Valley.
I'm a former legislator and I'm running for an open seat.
The Democrats think they can put this, and we're going
to show them that they won't. I have a reputation

(01:00:32):
of reading through the bills so that I know what
I'm voting on, and I have a In twenty nineteen,
twenty twenty, I was the original sponsor of the tax
referendum where people went to places like Harmon's to sign
so that we could block the tax increase on food,

(01:00:55):
fuel and services. And we were successful at getting one
hundred and seventy five and signatures statewide. So I'm not
afraid to stand up and be heard. And I believe
that if we don't stand up and be heard, we
see our constitutional rights go away. And that's the reason
I ran originally inn and that's the reason I'm running now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Hey got it, he got it all, held to win it.
All your candidates out there, give us call right now
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero if
you'd like one minute to make a final appeal to voters.
Minute to win it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Back to the thounds. Let's go to Cole Kelly. Welcome
to the Ron and Greg, show your name and you're running.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Thank you for having me on.

Speaker 21 (01:01:40):
Yeah, my name is Cole Kelly. I'm running for the
Utah State Board of Education in District twelve. It's an
interesting area. It covers Orum Vineyard, living in London. There
are three pre seats and Pleasant Grove and then I
go out to Wasats County through Shane County. You went
to county and Daggett County. So I am the Republican nominee.

(01:02:01):
I'm a conservative classroom teacher with twenty seven years of
classroom experience. My campaign theme has been students over systems.
I've been really frustrated watching as we continually push kids
through the system and we're focused on graduation, but we're
not focused on what they learn as they moved towards graduation.

Speaker 16 (01:02:21):
So I think it's time to change.

Speaker 21 (01:02:23):
That focus at the State Board of Education and make
sure that we focus on student achievement and make sure
that students are are our priority.

Speaker 5 (01:02:32):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Nice?

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
All right? Cool? He did it under an too, Yeah,
he did it under a minute. Let the buzzers down here,
here we go. All right, all right, let's go to
Bradley Park, who is running for Salt Lake County Surveyor.
Brad State your name the position you're running for, and
we'll get the clock started. Go ahead, Brad, let me
get you turned in here, all right, Brad, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 22 (01:02:56):
I am Bradley Parker. I'm running to be the Salt
Lake County Service So if you live anywhere near aar
in Salt Lake County, I'm on your ballot. So I'm
your current chief Deputy Surveyor in the County Serveryor's Office.
My professional license land surveyor with a degree in survey
and geomantics. I've been in the surveying and construction industry
for twenty years, and in the last six years, I've
held leadership positions in both the private and public sector.

(01:03:17):
So I'm the only candidate in this race who's held
management positions. I've prepared it administered budgets and both the
private and public sector, and I'm very good at doing that.
I make sure that we come in under budget. I'm
very conscious with the way that our office spends its money.
Since I joined the Surveyor's office, I've really worked to
improve a lot of our processes. I help to actually
lower our budget in twenty twenty three, and I'm constantly

(01:03:38):
looking a ways to do that. I want to lean
into technology. As technology changes and evolves, I want to
see how that can help the County Servey's office to
be able to do their job better. And I'm very
uniquely qualified to be able to do that. So I'm
Bradley Parker, meaning to be your County Serveyors.

Speaker 5 (01:03:53):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Wow, very They're doing very well in this, you know.
I think they've learned how to play this and they
out the way they should. So well, all right, go ahead,
very good. Now let's go to David Bittner. David, welcome
to the Roden greg Show. Is that your name and
the position you are running for?

Speaker 9 (01:04:10):
Go hi.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
I'm David Bittner. I'm running for city council in Kusharam,
which is in Severe County. I'm currently in charge of
animal control. Our biggest problem that we have in our
area are the lesbians from Salt Lake who have moved in.

Speaker 5 (01:04:33):
The city.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
Attorney says that animal control is not allowed to have
jurisdiction over these lesbians. They're causes in all kinds of problems,
family disruptions, and so that is the whole reason why
I'm going for city council.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
We don't even get paid.

Speaker 7 (01:04:52):
But we definitely there's now like forty of these lesbians
that have moved down here, making it very difficul vote
for the ranchers and the plumbers and electricians to have
a peaceful life.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Thank you guys, all right, David, thank you. A bit
of a nice bit of an odd pitch, if you
want my honest opinion on that one. But you know, everybody,
we let everybody call in. All right, let's go to
another call. Now this guy we know, should we give
him a hard time, no no wage? Joining us right
now on Rod E. Grag's Minute to Win It. Representative

(01:05:28):
Steve he Listen, Steve, welcome to Rod's Minute to Winny
y'all said to go, Steve.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
I'm ready, all right, go, all right.

Speaker 19 (01:05:38):
All right, this is Represents debe Listen. I currently serve
in House Districts forty three Sandy Collin Heights, Midvelle South, Jordan,
White City, running for re election. I have sponsored the
largest tax cut in state history.

Speaker 9 (01:05:52):
I've worked.

Speaker 19 (01:05:53):
I'm a lot on law enforcement issues. I'm an honorary
highly patrol trooper. Worked a lot on drunk driving, victims
rights and homelessness. Works a lot on youth mental help
trying to reduce our youth suicide rate, which we've luckily
seen some progress on. And probably one of my most
important talking points is I successfully put up with your

(01:06:13):
co host Red Hughes a number of years and he put.

Speaker 14 (01:06:17):
Up with me too.

Speaker 23 (01:06:18):
So and I'm going to give you ten seconds to spare.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Wow, that's Steve for you. Your it's good, very good man.
All right, let's go to another caller. Okay, let's go
to Tyler uh Glately. I don't want to I don't
want to mispronounce your name.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Tyler.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
It's your shot. Go and what what position you're running for?

Speaker 16 (01:06:40):
Thanks?

Speaker 24 (01:06:40):
Hi, I'm Tyler Glightly and I'm running to be your
representative in Utah House District forty, which covers most of
Midvale and parts of Murraya and Sandy. I got into
this race because, I, like many of you, am concerned
about the direction of Utah. The American dream is slipping
away for far too many people. Housing is unaffordable and

(01:07:01):
the cost of living has grown rapidly, and many of
our politicians aren't listening or don't represent our values. It
doesn't have to be this way. Our district deserves proactive representation.
That shows up, listens, and gets bills passed. As your
representation are your representatives. I'll remain focused on solutions. I'll

(01:07:23):
actively seek bipartisan support and find what brings us together,
regardless of the political implications. I'll vote to protect the
institutions of faith, family, and free markets. And most of all,
I will always vote Utah first. My name is Tyler
lightly and I'm running to be your representative in Jutah
House District forty.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
All right, Tyler, thank you, Tyler. We appreciate you. Times off.
All right. You know the candidates have done really well
this year. I don't think we buzzed anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
No, everybody's everybody's on point, and you.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Behaved your health. You haven't gonged anybody. Haven't got it
gong to you. He listen, but no, we'll let im pack.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
I thought his most powerful point was that he put
up with me. I thought that as a refiners fire.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
I didn't realize he was the Utah Highway patrolman at
one time.

Speaker 9 (01:08:04):
Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, I thought he said that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
I think he's honorary.

Speaker 9 (01:08:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I didn't listen to I know. I don't want to
put word.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
We should list to what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I was looking, but I love Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
So all right, all right, more of your calls and
comments coming up. It is Rod and Gregg's Minute to
Win It. All you candidates out there, give this number
a call right now. Eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero triple eight five seven o eight
zero one zero. If you're a candidate running for whatever
office you're interested in winning here in the state of Utah,
we are giving you a free one minute to make
a final pitch to voters. Eight eight eight five seven

(01:08:37):
oh eight zero one zero. Give us a call right now,
Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It. We'll continue here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k NRS.
That's part of our public service because there are a
lot of candidates out there. They can't afford the expensive
advertising of television or radio, right, so we give him
a free minute. Is that kind of us?

Speaker 9 (01:08:56):
It is?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Actually, I'm right, I'm so busy right now. The names,
I'm missing some of the PI. Then people text me
and they're like, did you hear that part? And I
did not hear that part?

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
So thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Going on, I'm going to take close attention.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
All right, let's go back to Rod and Greg's minute
to win it. We begin with John, who's in the
applying school district. John, Welcome to the show. State your
name and the office you're running for. John, go ahead, Hi, my.

Speaker 4 (01:09:18):
Name is John thrifty Dad. I'm running for a feet
on the Outplank school board. The reason I got in
this race is to stop the out of control taxing
and spending by the current school board. As a fiscal conservative,
I've been appalled to watch the current school board vote
to raise our property taxes eleven times in the last
seven years, way faster than the rate of inflation, and
the three term incumbent, Mark Clement voted for every single

(01:09:39):
one of these eleven tax increases. With a base budget
of over a billion dollars, the school board could already
do a great job educating every student without all these
tax increases. My top priority is to stop this constant
raising of our property taxes. I also want to cut
all wasteful spending, especially on crystal Palace school buildings, DEI programs,
and unnecessary layer of bureaucracy, all of which you're supported

(01:10:02):
by the three term in compent. When you vote Please
don't vote to re elect our Clement to a fourth term.
Instead vote for me, John Turkey, Dad, I'll fight hard
to turn things around on the school board.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Boom, all right, good job, good job. You get buzzed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
I didn't get buzzed at all. And stuff this and
get ready. All right, let's go to ourn next scholar.
Let's go to Phil Condor.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
I know Phil. He's a good warrior, citizen, soldier salt Lake.
Actually you state Phil, Welcome to the program. State your
name and the office in which you are seeking, sir.

Speaker 23 (01:10:31):
Thanks Greg, and thanks Rod. I'm still Condor. I am
running for Salt Lake County Treasurer, and I'm the best
conant because well I'm a certified treasury professional, so I'm
actual treasure running for you know, treasurer. I'm the current
chief Deputy treasure and I've been in the office for
twelve years. Twelve years ago when Wayne Cushing called me

(01:10:52):
up and asked me to come in and be part
of his executive team. We have slowly increased steadily. The
collection right now may not mean a lot to a
lot of people, but the higher the collection rate, the
more the fewer tax dollars UK the average of the state,
that collection rate is about ninety four percent. In Salt
Lake County we are at an astronomical ninety eight percent.

(01:11:15):
And that four percent difference actually means last year we
did not bill out eighty million dollars in taxes to
the residence of the county. So I want to keep
a good thing going. My name is Phil Conder, running
for Salt Lake County treasure Appreciate the vote.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Thanks all right, all right, Phil, thank you. We appreciate
that he came up. He Disney even get a buzzet.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I think you're sixty seconds off that you must be
given more than sixty No, I am not there. These
are great pitches.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
This is time is little good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
I had such a difficult time with a minute. None
of there are good candidates for having any trouble whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
All right, all right, let's go to Chris Stavros. Chris,
welcome to Rod and Gregg's mint and to win in
state your name in the offense you're running.

Speaker 25 (01:11:54):
For Hi, I'm Chris Stavros. So I am the current
Salt Lake County Assessor run for reelection. It has been
an honor serving as your assessor for the last four years,
and I want the citizens of Salt Lake County to
know that I take my responsibility and obligation to the
citizens very seriously. We have accomplished a lot in my

(01:12:16):
four years as assessor. We have lowered property tax appeal
levels to the lowest level and the history of that
office for four consecutive years. And we've done it by
having laser focus on getting the value correct up front.

Speaker 5 (01:12:30):
So people don't have to appeal.

Speaker 25 (01:12:32):
In addition, I've brought cutting edge valuation technology to the office.
We're the only county in the state and one of
the few in the nation that uses income regression models
to value commercial properties. What that means for taxpairs is
more accurate, equaval and fair assessments for all types of
property at every price range. Once again, I'm Chris Stavres,

(01:12:53):
your current Salt Lake County Assessor running for reelection.

Speaker 9 (01:12:56):
Thank you time wow.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
Wow, times up. Chris did it. Really good job on
that one, right right right to the minute.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Right to the wire. Very good with his time.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Okay, let's go. Let's keep going to the phone. Let's
go to Phil Lyman.

Speaker 7 (01:13:10):
Phil.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Welcome to the program, Sir, state your name and the
office in which you are pursuing.

Speaker 26 (01:13:17):
Phil Lyman running for governor of Utah, and I'm running
as I'm running as a writing candidate because of some
shenanigans that went on through the convention and other things.
If you want to know what my platform is, you
just have to look at what Governor Cox has been promoting,
uh since he started running for office. He's big on
public lands now, he's big on energy, he's big on corruption,

(01:13:37):
he's big on fighting illegal immigration.

Speaker 12 (01:13:40):
Uh.

Speaker 26 (01:13:40):
All of those things are on my platform and have
been for over a year. Those are the things that
were important to me as I've as I've as I've stated,
and as I've fought for, gone to jail for, and
we'll continue to fight for in Utah. Right now, I'm
hoping that people will write in Phil Lyman. I'm the
only lineman on the back at this point. The other

(01:14:01):
two lines dropped off, So we're ready to go.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Very good. That's inside the men, I Phil, thank you.
I got a lot of attention that race.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, sure is it? Sure is all right. Let's go
back to the phones. Let's go to uh Carlton. Carlton,
how are you welcome to Rod's Mint, Rod and Gregg's
minute to win it. State your name, the position you're
running for, and we'll start the clock. Go ahead, Carlton, Well,
thank you.

Speaker 27 (01:14:24):
I'm Carlton Bowen, running to be your US Senator, replacing
Mitt Romney. There's a Democrat on the ballot, and there's
a former Democrat who, while elected as a Republican, still
refuses to endorse his own party's presidential nominee, Donald Trump,
and who, like the Democrats did, called for an impeachment inquiry.
And who's main cause wal elected as a Republican has

(01:14:47):
been climate change, kind of like the Green New Deal,
and who was one of only eight Republicans to join
with Joe Biden and trying to exempt China from tariffs.
And then there's me, a lifelong conservative, pro Trump, independent
American who is for the US Constitution, for traditional values,

(01:15:08):
traditional money, and our tradition of freedom. If you want
something different than what you've had for the last six years,
I urge you to have the courage to do something different.
Vote Independent American Carlton Bowen for US Senate.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
All Right, all right, Carlton, thank you very much. We
appreciate you taking place. Times up. All right, let's go
to Let's go to our next caller.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Next next caller, Natalie Clawson, Welcome to the rod and
Greg meant to win it on a here the day
before the election. Please say your name in the office
in what you are running for.

Speaker 22 (01:15:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 12 (01:15:43):
My name is Natalie Clawson and I am running for
Lieutenant governor with still Lineman. So we are on the
ticket together and we've been campaigning together. Bill's been doing
it for a full year. I've been with him for
the last six months. We've traveled the state. We've met
with people on a daily basis, cottage meetings, podcast everything.
We know the concerns and the people of Utah, and

(01:16:03):
we're ready to fight hard for the people of Utah.
We believe strongly ins in people's personhood and freedom of speech.

Speaker 5 (01:16:09):
We believe in.

Speaker 12 (01:16:10):
Parenthood and in statehood and in not having those get
interfere with each other. On my background, I'm an attorney.
I care a lot about our elections, the Lieutenant Governor's
offices over elections, I know the issues very closely. I
ran a statewide initiative called Secure Voute Utah to return
voting to a system that we can trust and verify
where you vote in person and bring ID and vote

(01:16:31):
in your precinct and count in our precinct. I know
those issues.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:16:35):
We've seen a lot of problems this last election cycle
where there's lack of traps parency from our current lieutenant governor,
and there's a lot of big concerns and I'm ready
to jump in there and fight.

Speaker 9 (01:16:46):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Yeah, like, good job, got it all in, got it
all over all.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Right, more of your calls coming up. It is rodin
Gregg's Minute to Win It. Eight eight eight five seven
eight zero one zero triple eight five seven oh eight
zero one zero. If you're a candidate running for political office,
your name's on the ballot tomorrow. If you have family
who may be hearing this, now, give that candidate call friends,
give that candidate to call. We take all callers. That's right,

(01:17:10):
does matter party affiliation. Eight eight eight five seven oh
eight zero one zero eight eight eights five to seven
oh eight zero one zero. Right now we're doing our
Rod and Gregg's miant it to win It.

Speaker 7 (01:17:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Each handled this quite well so far. I'm talking about
my code. Mister Hughes wanted to gong everybody I know, but.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
You know it's a little frantic when you get a minute,
I got to write down names. I'm trying to get
it all.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
Square ways right to tell on the screen in front
of you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
I know, but I like to write it down. I've
got all the names listen right here on my sheet
of paper, so it says then I missed some of
the comments, and then I hear about them after your
commercial break, you're from some of people texting me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
But all right, here's what we do. Final half hour
eight eight eight five seven eight zerold one zero. If
you're a little bit nervous about your rates tomorrow, how
the votes will come in for you or again against you,
for your opponent, you'll want to make a last ditch
effort to convince voters in your certain area that they
should vote for you. This is what we do with
Rodden Gregg's a Minute to win it. All you do

(01:18:10):
is have to give us a call right now eight
eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight eight
eight five seven zero eight zero one zero, and we'll
give you exactly one minute to call in.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Right, folks, the listeners of this show are the opinion
leaders of this state. I am convinced, so it's an
opportunity to connect with those opinion leaders one day out.
So let's go to the phones and let's go to
Aaron Ryder. She's I'm not going to say what you're
running for, Aaron, introduce yourself and the office that you're
running for. Welcome, well, thank.

Speaker 28 (01:18:45):
You both for having me and for doing this. So
Aaron Ryder, that's my name. I'm running for Salt Lake
County Mayor and thrilled to be here tonight.

Speaker 12 (01:18:54):
And am I just going, okay, going, all right, go.

Speaker 28 (01:18:59):
Here's the thing you guys, Pallet County needs change. Every
issue we're dealing with in the county this year has
gotten worse than the last sixteen years, not better. We
desperately need new eyes and a new vision in the
Salt Lake County government. And that's what I'm bringing to
the table. We are excited for this tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (01:19:14):
We are thrilled.

Speaker 28 (01:19:15):
I want to just encourage everybody to get out and
vote because these races matter, These local races matter so much,
and we have a lot of work to do in
the next ten years before the Olympics come. Now's the
time to make that change.

Speaker 4 (01:19:27):
So that's the pitch. Get out there and vote, all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Right for Aaron, No, she didn't. She's been working hard on.
A second, she's been working hard.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
On Yes, you got that elevator pitch down. That's like
a three story elevator there. That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
All right, let's go back to our callers. Let's go
to Rochelle Morris, who's running I think in Salt Lake County. Rochelle,
how are you welcome to Rod and Gregg's minute to
win It?

Speaker 23 (01:19:48):
Y'all said to go, Hi, It's great to be here.

Speaker 29 (01:19:53):
I'm Rachelle Morris. I'm the Republican nominee for the Salt
Lake County Council at Large CC. This has been held
by one human for all twenty four years in which
the County Council has existed. His name is Jim Bradley, Democrat,
and I have earned Jim's vote across party lines in

(01:20:14):
this race. I've earned the support of all five Republicans
on the council. I'm a first time candidate. I'd come
from the private sector where I've been able to manage
billions of dollars on behalf of people who've trusted me
with their money. The number one job at the county
Council to oversee the second largest budget in the state
of Utah. I will bring those skills. I am ready
to go, and so much so that Jim cross party

(01:20:37):
lines to support me, as did outgoing county councilwomen and Granado.
So please join seven of the nine county council members
in voting for me, Rachelle Morris tomorrow on election day.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
All right, Michelle, good job, Goodell.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
That was great.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
She did a good job. All the candidates I have
done a good job. Matter of fact, you know, I'll
say this again, Greg, I admire people like you who
go out there, beat the bushes, knock on doors, kiss babies,
shake hands, to be candidates for public office. It's not
an easy job to do. I would never do it. Yeah,
my dad did it. My dad was ran for political office.

(01:21:14):
I would never do it. But people who do it,
they raise money, they spend their own money, they run
campaigns large or small. I admire it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:22):
Well, you know what's it's tough to put yourself out there. Well,
you get criticized, you get asked a ton of questions.
You've got to you know. I will say though that
now that I'm now that I'm citizen in Hughes and yes,
I'm not doing that. That There's really authenticity just being
as genuine as you human. Don't try to read the room,
don't try to figure out where people are going, don't

(01:21:43):
try to guess fake what answer they want to hear.
Be prepared to give your your thoughtful answer and really
explain why. Even when I was a candidate and I
found that people didn't agree with me, if I could
just explain why I came to open the new ideas too,
by the way open the new information, but I felt
the way I did, usually even if at the end
of the day they didn't agree, it didn't it wasn't

(01:22:04):
a deal breaker because they knew I was being thoughtful.
I was really trying to work through that issue. And
I think people are reasonable. They know you're not going
to agree one hundred percent of everything, and so I
just think authenticity is the way to go well.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
And I think is amazing Greg. If if you just
allow an individual and you probably ran into this on
all your town halls that you did, if you allow
individuals to be heard, that's all they want. They just
want to be heard, and I think that is I
think that is so critical in any campaign. It's important.
As we run this radio station, we have listeners who

(01:22:36):
email us. They just want to be heard, they want
to ask a question, they may have a complaint, and
if you respond, it's pretty amazing the reaction you get
to that. All right, more of your calls. Final segment
of Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It. Give us
call right now. Eight eight eight five seven O eight
zero one zero triple eight five seven oh eight zero
one zero. Final segment of Rodd and Gregg's Minute to
Win It is coming up. Eight eight eight five seven

(01:22:59):
o eight zero one zero triple eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero. If you'd like to call in
and make a final appeal to voters and you're who
will be voting on you for a political office, as
to why they should impact cast a ballot for you. Tomorrow.
The polls, by the way, open at seven. They close
tomorrow night at eight. By the way, we will begin

(01:23:20):
our coverage of the election tomorrow night at six with
national coverage and then Greg Abbey and I will be
back for three hours from eight to eleven to keep
you up to date down local races here in the
state of Utah, which I think Greg, you and I
agree are going to be called fairly early. And at Utah,
I mean here in Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
Yeah, we have some I think some legislative races that
could might take a while to sort out, but the
big races we'll probably know.

Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
Yeah, we'll probably know fairly soon. So that's tomorrow again,
if you want to call in final few minutes, if
Rodd and Greg's minute to win it eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. I was going to
ask you, Greg, as you look back, have you ever
seen over the years a crazier election than this year?

Speaker 8 (01:24:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
I mean, I mean just an images alone, just the
pictures of the Donald Trump's mug shot, the picture of
you know, him standing up after he's been shot, yeah,
saying fight fight fight him at McDonald's. Yeah, you know
him at the at what was the last thing he did?
It was just a right, oh the garbage truck, garbage truck.
I mean just think of those images, just right, those

(01:24:24):
four images alone, I mean they's just it's surreal and
again showing kind of a human side, well some of it,
the sad stuff. I mean, you have the uh, you know,
the assassination attempts, you of the lawfare and him you know,
getting his mug shot, which is pathetic, but.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
On the other side, great. Think about the unceremonious dumping
of Joe Biden, yes, you know, after the debate on
June twenty seventh, the instant fame of Kamala Harris, who
has never basically won a national vote so to speak.
I mean, it's just been one of the weirdest, weirdest
campaigns I think either you or I have ever seen.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
You know, we're run out of time because I know
we have some candidates that want to pitch their case
to our listeners before we close out the show, But
you know, I might just continue this on tomorrow with you.
I still think Peanut the squirrel being euthanized in the
state of New York is an absolute of atrocity. And
they don't they don't convict criminals, they don't go after
they accommodated illegals. They do all this, and they send

(01:25:21):
a swat team after this poor man's pet squirrel that's
got a million followers. Is so cute and domesticated. You
don't care, but I do. I'm I'm I'm on the
side of Peanut the squirrel, and I'm I'm mad.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
All right, So let's go back to the phones here
on Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It. Let's see
who do we have here on the show. Greg, I'll
let you take this one.

Speaker 9 (01:25:41):
Roy.

Speaker 14 (01:25:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
I don't mispronounce your name, Roy, Roy Roy pisclaudio.

Speaker 8 (01:25:49):
It's a difficult last name. My name is Roy Scadlow.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Oh Scatlow, Good job? You ready to go? Roy, Yes, sir,
all right go.

Speaker 8 (01:26:00):
So my name is Roy de Scadlow, and I'm running
for House District forty one as a Republican. The reason
I'm running is because there's some local issues around development
around the Canyon, Little Common Canyon and Los Ange Boulevard,
and we have had a democratic representation for quite some

(01:26:21):
time and it is time for a positive change in
our neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
You've got thirty more seconds, Roy, if you'd like to dagum.

Speaker 8 (01:26:31):
Oh, okay, okay sure. My professional this is the first
time I run for office. My professional background is in finance.
I finance large energy projects around the world. I do
not have any business interest in Utah. So I am
set to represent the people and the people's interests and

(01:26:53):
people in my house district.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
All right, very nice, All right, We appreciate that. Thank
you for calling in. You made it just under the wire,
not just even a minute. But you know, the shows
kind of we're kind of landing the show.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I'm just watching the Trump rally. And guess who's speaking
for Donald Trump tonight. Megan Kelly after what happened several
years ago during the debate. I don't think I'd ever
see this happen, but.

Speaker 1 (01:27:17):
You know that philosophically, she's been on the side, but
now she's standing right next to him at this rally.
It's in Is this in Pittsburgh, This is in Pittsburgh.
And look, this is what I mean by a campaign
of addition. They just keep adding to their ranks and
adding to their ranks. And it's good. I mean, that's
exactly what you want from I don't know a campaign otherwise,
Let's just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Check in and see what she's saying here, real fast.

Speaker 30 (01:27:40):
Suck it up, and that's what's right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:45):
Why do our girls have.

Speaker 30 (01:27:46):
To face brain damage in order to be kind to
boys who want to invade their sports? And by the way,
they are going into the women's prisons. She changed the
law in California to make sure the taxpayers would pay
for their sex change operations. She was not just following
the laws. She changed the law.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Well, there's a few sharp words from Meggan Kelly tonight
at the rally for Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:28:10):
Good for her, you know she's Meghan Kelly's like our
Cara Brooklyn represented Carra Brookland, fighting for these girls.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
All right, big day tomorrow. We'll be here tomorrow, right
up until eleven o'clock tomorrow night. Go vote right. That's
the most important thing you can do, the right we
have in America. Do it tomorrow. Pulls over at seven.
Talk to you tomorrow.

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