The Rod and Greg Show: Political Exhaustion; Michelle Obama's Resentment

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, I am so excited about this show. I'm excited
about what's going on. I'm exciting about the breaking news
from when we left you yesterday all the way up.
You know we were twenty one hours ago. We have
more news, have more things happening. Garbage since we left
you has been front of mind.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Part of the day.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Garbage, garbage, garbage everywhere. And you know, we were once deplorables.
I think we've been recategorized.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
What is being a deplorable or being garbage? You know what,
which one is better? Because I'm trying to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
I think when they call us all garbage, I think
they're just being more honest. I think it was a hat.
You could take half of Trump's supporters and they were uh,
and they put them in a basket and call them deplorables.
But I think that Joe Biden just up her game
and one up there and said all of them, all
the all the supporters are garbage.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, initially we're just a basket of deplorables. But right
now we're just we're just a garbage field. Yeah, like
a waste field, a field of waste, Yes, garbage, barage,
that's all we are one of us. Well, we've got
a lot to get to today, and of course we
invite you to be a part of this program. We
love having you when you join us on the air
and share your opinions. That's what this show is all about. Opinions.

(01:11):
Of course, Greig doesn't have opinions. He just he just
knows he's right all the time than you, for he
knows he's right all the time. The Crown. We'll talk
about garbage. Well, quite a turnout last night, I guess
Greg up at Utah State University. I think some twenty
lawmakers showed up up there last night in support of
the Utah State women's volleyball team in a game against
Nevada with.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
The T shirts boy cot.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yeah, I think big bold letters boy cot, which I
thought was great. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Kamala speech. Mike Lee, he's been on the campaign trail,
he's been doing a lot of stumping, but he found
some time today to spend with us, and we'll join
with We'll talk with Sender Lee a little bit later
on in the show. We'll talk about this resentment that

(01:54):
you always get a sense of when whenever Michelle Obama speaks,
you kind of get this, and she's just ticked.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Off at us this. I have misread this, folks. I
thought she would if she had decided to run, she
was going to just walk through this. It would be
a cakewalk. I cannot. I'm telling you that this lecturing
and this yelling at everyone to get on board or else,
if this is how detached they become, I think she
would not have had a very successful experience running for president.

(02:22):
And I thought she would have been the easiest walk through.
But boy, she and Hubby, Barack, Barry Obama, they are
just angry at everyone. Yeah, dare you not vote for
who we tell you to vote for? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (02:34):
And especially you men, how dare you consider Donald Trump?
Do you know that you're putting your wives, your sister,
your mother's lives in danger? I please, Well, if you
vote for Donald drum, real.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Dramatic, absolute hyperbole. And and you know what I I
just I thought they were cooler than that. I mean,
you might not like their policies, but I thought they
were kind of cool, you know, But no they're not.
I've been scalded enough. I don't need them.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Were enough of that, all right? Let's talk about garbage
for a minute. Joe Biden. Now here's what I find
interesting about this. Greg Here, Kamala is having her big,
big closing event last night right on the Ellipse in Washington.
You can see the White House in the background, right.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
But at the same time, Joe Biden does kind of
this conference call video conference call with Latino leaders going
on at the same time. Do you think anyone thought
that this may be a bit of a distraction from
what Mama Kamala was trying to do. You know, it's
kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's hard to know what's going on over there because,
I mean, it's supposed to help her. I mean, he's
not really saying nice things about Trump, as we know,
and we'll get into but it's why while she's giving
this what is supposed to be this really grandiose moment
and closing argument from her, and it's kind of been overridden. Yeah,
just kind of competing.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah. Well, if you aren't a wear of this, this
is what Joe Biden said last night. He was talking
to a group of Latino folks. The apost there's an
apostrophe floating around here. We've been told, but listen.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
They're good, decent, honorable people. The only garbage I see
floating down there is his supporters. His his his demonizational
scene is unconscionable and it's not America.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
The only garbage I see out there is his supporters.
Where's the Comma or the apostrophe supporter?

Speaker 1 (04:33):
The guy that's he's trying. The White House is trying
to walk this back and say he was speaking about
the comedian himself, and that is the supporter he was
referring to. You've heard it. I've heard it a number
of times. The only garbage he sees are Trump's supporters.
That's what he said. What you can you can. You
can try to dress it up and say anything you want.

(04:54):
That's what he said, and because that's what he means.
And by the way, you can't have a rally that's
a Nazi or fascist rally without the attendees being part
of that description. Yeah, all those people there, that's exactly
what they think of them. It's like we I mean,
it does show that that her speech about unity is
not real. It's just lip service, which works against what

(05:16):
she was trying to do. But this isn't a surprise
to us. They have they have, They've put us on
domestic terrorist lists. If we're parents concerned about the curriculum
in our schools and gone to school board meetings, if
you own a gun, if you've been a member of
the military, they've put you on these dangerous domestic lists
of potential terrorists. They have hated minimally half this country
for quite some time. I would say, even their supporters

(05:38):
they don't really care what a whole lot about. They're
just they're just.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
They just want to use them. Yet. Yeah, Well, the
thing I find interesting as well today, Greg, is you
know that she was hoping all the news channels MSNBC, CNN,
Fox News today would be talking about her speech last night. Yes,
not the case. What they're talking about is the garbage
comment made, and she's even trying to water it down

(06:03):
just a little bit. Here's her response to what President
Biden said last time.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Let me be Claire, I sorongly disagree with any criticism
of people based on who they vote for. It you've
heard in my fies last night and continuously throughout my career.
I believe that the work that I do is about
representing all the people, whether they support me or not.

(06:29):
And as President of the United States, I will be.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
A president for all Americans, whether you vote from me
or not, President for all Americans. Even though I think
the guy you all like or half of you like,
is a fascist, well.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I just still don't know the practical Well, how do
you have a fascist or a Nazi like rally if
the attendees are not fascists, supporting a fascist or supporting
a Nazi, I don't know. In those flags of Israel
that were flying at Masson Square Garden, yeah, all of
that is a fact or Nazi rally. They never retreated
from that once they saw the makeup of the crowd

(07:03):
or all of what was spoken, and there was a
lot spoken hours that the one that they want to
just go to shows how desperate they are because they
take one guy who's a comedian known for roasting and saying,
you know, controversial things.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
And it was on, by the way, three hours before
Donald Trump ever showed up.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Yeah, and that is to define the entire rally. And
it's all of it holy, and you know that that's
just an exaggeration that's meant to manipulate and make people
think something that's not real. I have a clip if
we get to it, of what what Donald Trump really
said that was powerful when he finally when he took
the stage, which I think we should listen to and
know that's who this guy really is. But even Trump

(07:42):
or even Biden himself, when he was talking about what
that comedian roasted about and and you made that bad
joke about Puerto Rico, he takes it from the the
island that the guy was, you know, ripping on and says,
all the Puerto Ricans I know are good people. No
one was ever talking about that.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
We never talked about We never talked about the Puerto
Rican people.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
He wasn't and so he can get that wrong, and
nobody actually corrects him on that. But somehow there was
an apostrophe when he said all of Trump's supporters are garbage,
and we're supposed to know that he meant just the
comedian himself give me a break.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, here's what Kamala and other Democrats have said over
the past when it comes to supporters of Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
You can put half of Trump's supporters into what I
call the basket of deplorables.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, you name it.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
Or Puerto Rico where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
floating down there is just supporters.

Speaker 8 (08:40):
You said over the weekend referring to it, there's a
direct parallel to a big rally.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That happened in the mid nineteen thirties, that Medicine Square Garden. Well,
you were comparing that rally to a Nazi rally.

Speaker 8 (08:50):
Look, I'm comparing it to the hate that came out
of this, and I think they confirmed that.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
You stand by the comparison, though, to a Nazi rally.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Look the rally you saw for yourself.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
I'll let the American public make the decision of what
they saw. What about you?

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So I know what I saw and I'll just leave
it at that.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist?

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
I do, Yes, I do.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
There we go Greg see how yeah?

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Is it is it a fashion? I'll leave it up
to you to decide. He can't say it, and that
is someone that's that that they don't have enough votes anywhere,
they can't offend anyone, or they're trying not to they
need to attack a candidate, attack anyone, try to shame
anyone out of voting for him. Again, that's the hate Trump,
fear Trump, vote against Trump. But when he's asked point blank,
did you think that was a fascist rally? I have

(09:32):
my own opinions. I'll let you decide yourself. Can't even
speak an opinion when pinned down.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
I think the best response today to all of this
and this garbage talk came from Donald Trump himself out
on the campaign traily. No Jason just aired a portion
of it in his newscast a moment ago. But this
is what the president said. My response the former president,
my response to Joe and Kamala is very simple, and
I love this line. You can't lead America if you

(10:01):
don't love Americans. That's great line. Handed you can't be
president if you hate the American people. And there's a
lot of hate out there, especially on the left, and
they great one.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
The Democrats, leftist are just screaming saying, no, that's not
the guy we want you to hear, we want you
to think opposite of that.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
But he nailed it. He nailed it, sure did. You
can't lead America if you don't love Americans. Man, have
we got a lot to get to today. Great to
be with you here on the Roden Greg Show. Coming up,
we'll talk about Donald Trump's and how he has embraced
the effort against allowing boys to play in girls' sports.
That's coming up right here on the Roden Greg Show.

(10:39):
Great to be with you this afternoon. If you want
to be a part of the program. Eight eight eight
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phone tol pound two fifty and say hey. Ron. Afterward
came out of what Joe Biden was saying about his supporters,
that their garbage. Trump basically asked his supporters to forgive Biden.

(11:00):
Oh he did. He asked him to forgive Biden. You
know why. Why he doesn't know what he's talking about.
What's happening. He doesn't know what's happening. So that was
the message from Donald Trump afterward of the garbage come
in came out last night. All right, big turnout last night,
A good turnout last night. Up up at Utah State University.
The women's volleyball team was playing up there last night

(11:22):
against Nevada at the University of Nada. Both schools have
forfeited their games, their matches with San Jose State because
San Jose State has a man who thinks he's a
woman on the volleyball team, and they said, we don't
want to put up with this. So, Greg, I understand
there was quite a turnout there last night.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
It was, and and hats off to our state lawmakers
who made it a point to be there and present
at that game to send a strong message that they
are with these athletes, the student athletes, and want to
protect girl sports its integrity. And I thought it was
a good night.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, good night, all right. Joining us on our Newsmaker
line to talk more about this is our next guest,
Mary Margaret Olahan. She is a senior reporter at The
Daily Wire. She wrote an article today about how Donald
Trump is embracing the trans culture wars. Mary Margaret, how
are you, and welcome to the Rodin Greg Joe, thanks
for joining.

Speaker 9 (12:09):
Us, Hello, Thank you so much for having.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Me, Margaret. Was this a slow process for the former president?
Did he jump on this right away? What are your
thoughts on this as far as him embracing this culture void,
going over going on over transgenderism.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Well, I am so glad you asked. This is something
that I spent the last month on kind of tracking
the history of how we got here. And I will
tell you guys that four years ago, as I'm sure
you know, this was not something that the GOP was
really messaging on. This is a movement and messaging that
Trump has come to given the event to the last

(12:46):
four years. Not something that I learned from over a
dozen activists and operatives who are close to Trump, and
what they're telling me is that the Loadin County sexual
assault scandal, the rise of Riley Gains, and parents understanding
what was going on in the classroom, these were kind
of the crazy watershed moments that helped Trump to realize
that this is an issue that people really really care about.

(13:09):
And what I'm told is that some of Trump's closer
advisors said, you know, they he looked at the polling
and he realized that not only was this sentiment reflected
in polling, but it also was just so crazy and
those are his own words, crazy that he needed to
champion it. And so now here we are, four years later,
heading into the election, Trump is saying that men don't

(13:30):
belong in women's sports, that we shouldn't be pushing irreversible
gender procedures on kids, and that parents have a right
to know what's going on in their kids' education. And
I would argue these are winning messages, you know. There
we're seeing a lot of pulling to back this up.
And you know, the Wall Street Journal said only a
few weeks ago that this is the twenty twenty four
sleeper issue, and I would have to agree with that,

(13:52):
but I think you know will no more than ever
come November fifth.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
So uh, Mary, Margaret, I agree with everything you said,
and I'm glad you've been tracked this for some time
to help me at least understand how this has built
the momentum and it's become such an important issue in
President Trump's campaign. Because I've been back to Pennsylvania, Southwest
Pennsylvania to visit family during the campaign season, and I
got to tell you the art the commercial that you

(14:16):
talk about in your article where they highlight Kamala's a
record on far left policies, taxpayer funded transgender surgeries for
illegal immigrants and federal prisoners. It was playing, I mean
it was almost NonStop. It's the most prevalent commercial when
I was there for some short time that I saw
And my question to you is this. I was told
a while ago that culture war issues, be it whether

(14:39):
it's abortion or whether it would be transgender issues like this,
these culture war issues don't really take front stage in
a presidential campaign once you get to these final days.
I would disagree. I think this is about front of
mind as any issue going on. Why do you think
that's the case. Why are these culture war issues maybe
more they're not luxury issues, They're not They're issues that

(15:01):
people are really talking about. Why is that?

Speaker 9 (15:05):
Well left would tell you that the right and Trump
are just fear mongering with this type of thing, But
at the end of the day, they're not. They're talking
about real things, real issues that real phrases that Kamala
has said. That ad that you're talking about, which is
a really powerful ad. Literally all it is is Kamala Harris.

(15:26):
It shows her saying how she would support taxpayer fundage
under transitions for illegal immigrants, and then it says Kamala
is for they them, Donald Trump is for you, And
that's the whole ad. And all they had to do
was quote her. And what we included in our story
is that internal testing results reviewed by The New York
Times from Democrats found that not only is this the

(15:48):
most played Trump ad, it's also the most effective Trump ad.
And I think that says a lot about where the
country's at right now. They're being told and gas lit
by the Left that this issue doesn't that it's not happening,
that it's fear mongering, and then they're told not to
believe they're lying eyes when they see Leah Thomas or
Will Thomas winning Riley Gain's Trophy, or when they see

(16:10):
girls getting concussions playing against men in their volleyball tournaments,
or when they see Chloe Cole, a girl who got
her breast removed as a minor, trying to undergo a
gender transition, and they're just told over and over again
it's not happening. Well, they know it is, and they
have the Internet and platforms like x where free speech
is allowed to show them what's going on. And it

(16:32):
looks like a lot of them are going to choose
to vote for the candidate that is against this craziness
because it's just too far. And I think that was
the left fatal mistake. You know, for a while, they
were getting a lot of this through but when it
comes to kids, and that's what I learned a lot
from the people I talked to for this story. When
it comes to kids, you just can't push too far.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Yeah, Mary, Margaret, are you aware of any policies that
the future Trump administration look at to protect girls' sports?
Are there any policies being considered that you may have
heard about?

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Well.

Speaker 9 (17:07):
Trump has repeatedly said that he would ban federal funding
for any kind of school or institution that was pushing
radical gender ideology. He's also said that he would like
to sign a national law banning transgender interventions for kids
without parental consent, and I'm correct. You might want to
fact check me on this, but I'm pretty sure. He's
also said that he would sign a law banning men

(17:29):
from women's sports. And that's one of the anecdotes we
started the story with is how much applause he gets
when he talks about this issue. And he himself said, Wow,
would you look at the applause I get for when
I talk about this. He knows that this is an
issue that's really resonating with the American public, and Terry Shilling,
the President of the American Principles Project. One of the

(17:51):
people I talked to for this story. He told me
that Trump is actually very, very keyed into this topic
and is much more informed than people might think. Cherry
actually brought his polling on this issue Tomorrow logo and
showed it to Trump and he had a conversation with
him there, and he said that Trump understands the gravity
of this issue.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Mar Margaret, great reporting, Thanks for a few minutes of
your time today.

Speaker 9 (18:14):
Thank you for having me all right so much.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
On our Newsmaker line. That's Mary Margaret, all a hand
senior reporter at the Daily Wire. I just saw some
video Greg Trump apparently is Wisconsin. No what he was
in It was in a garbage truck. He was in
the past you see of a big old garbage truck
driving away. It's all painted white with Trump with Trump

(18:37):
Vance on the side of it. But he, you know,
here he is in a garbage truck talking to reporters.
I just I gotta love the sometimes brilliant all right
more coming up with Rod and Greg right here on
Utah's Talk Radio one O five to nine kN RS.
I don't think this would have happened in twenty twenty
or twenty twenty six, because I think this is the
change that we're seeing in this year's Trump campaign, that

(18:59):
they're reacting quickly to things today. And what do we
see you? What do we see this afternoon? You just
showed me a picture of the Ramaswami right on the
back of a garbage truck, Yeah, picking up garbage. And
then you see Donald Trump in this really nice look
like a brand new garbage truck with Trump and Vans
written all over it, sitting in the passenger seat and

(19:22):
talking to the press from a garbage truck.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Do you have do you have eleven seconds? You just
just give me turn my turn my my laptop, Yeah,
turn it on because I got it, because I just
want to play for listeners. This was I don't know,
just probably less than an hour ago, breaking news on CNN.
They break through the panel for this for a moment.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Stand by for a moment.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Some is answering some questions from reporters.

Speaker 11 (19:47):
To make that statement, it's really in this way.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
That was from the seat of a garbage truck. Donald
Trump is driving in a garbage truck and had the
window down and was answering questions from reporters about the
supporters of him, those who plan to vote for him
being garbage.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, I wouldn't have happened with the last two campaigns.
I think Trump has dialed in. He's got a great
team behind him. We're going to talk about that in
the coming hour as well. All Right, big big event
last night for Kamala Harris says. Apparently greg was her
closing argument, her closing statement to the American people as
to why they should vote for her to be president

(20:31):
of the United States. Now, she did it on the ellipse,
with the White House behind her. The first minute, by
the way of her speech drowned out by police sirens,
which I thought was classic. You can hear. But if
she's trying to separate herself from the Biden administration, why
do this with the White House in the background. You
figured that one out.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
She wants to look presidential, but she doesn't want you
to think of her as the president. That's done to us,
what's happened to us over the last administration's time on
the clock.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
And from the Daily Caller. We had Reagan on just
the other day. Reagan Reese, who is the White House
correspondent for the Daily Caller, was on the Ellipse last
night talking to people. Her thinking, and she talked to
quite a few people, is the Harris folks are really nervous,
as they say, they are really really nervous. A matter

(21:20):
of fact, she said, here's one comment. He told her,
I'm very nervous. Honestly, I think Trump might win. I
don't know, but I think he might win. And she said,
the whole the feeling is, she talked to people, They're nervous.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
And remember this, I mean, how many of us or
how many people in some of these states are actually
ground zero and a rally like that, or a moment
or a speech like that. And by the way, I've
been told, I think you have two rod those that
have been It is so much more difficult to get
into a Harrish rally than a Trump rally. I mean
in terms of they want ID, they want to know
everything about it.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I mean, they want ID to get into a rally,
but not idea.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
To Amazingly so, the scrutiny to get into a Harrish
rally is far greater than the Trump rally, or was
maybe until the assassination times. They but to be there.
There's a bit of a natural selection that goes on,
So when you see people in Washington, DC that are
part of that crowd, that crowd's picked, this is all
pageantry for them when they're expressing their worry. This isn't

(22:15):
just man off the street moment. These are people that
particularly and very close to the campaign are either volunteers
or involved with that campaign in some way in DC.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Yeah, what's interesting about this? This was supposed to be
her unity speech. So he said, will you know, we're
also get tired of ten years of Donald Trump. I'm
the new way forward. I'm going to bring you know,
new ideas. I'm going to work with Republicans will solve
the nation's problems. Yet she mentions Donald Trump more than
fifty times in her forty minute speech. Now, there is

(22:48):
one CNN panelist, as a matter of fact, he is
a strategist. His name is Brad Todd. Was on CNN
last night and he basically called what Kamala did last
night political practice. Be the skunk at the garden party here.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
But I think, you know, I play political events for
a living, and I think this was political malpractice to
put her in front of this White House. Sixty eight
percent of Americans think that the country's on the wrong track,
and they blamed Joe Biden, and increasingly they were blaming
Kamala Harris. By standing in front of that White House tonight,
she's going to own all sixty eight percent of that disapproval,
And you know, I think it's a comfort reason. I

(23:24):
think Northwest Washington, d C. Is about her best precinct
in America. Everybody likes her there. She should have been
in the Union Lodge in Philadelphia or Pittsburgh tonight. That
would have done her a lot more good. And I
also don't think that she did a lot from Nicky
Haley voters. They've talked a lot this week about that
they were going after Haley voters, and I think the
Haley voters had to be looking at this as like
a Christmas present they opened up and it was socks.

(23:46):
You know, they got nothing new from her, nothing that
wasn't in her convention speech, frankly, and I don't think
this moves the ball for her here at the end.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Have you ever opened up a Christmas present and what
you get at socks? Yes, yeah, you have.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
When I was a kid, grandma and grandma parents get
my grandparents are come to presence and you get a
sweater because you're a little kid, just like toys would. Yeah,
I appreciate thank you, but it's just kind of a downer.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
You're being dishonest when you say thank you.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Well, trying to be appreciative, but very kind of sad.
The box kind of big. Could have been a lot
of different things. And I wear sweaters now, but as
a kid, I.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Don't want to. Didn't didn't want to wear centers uh sweaters.
But I I just know, you know, I agree with
what what Todd just said about all of this is
it was a political malpractice. I mean, she she had
an opportunity. Who's staging all I just think it shows
Greg that we have the two most incompetent people in

(24:44):
the White House that we've ever had before. You've got
Joe Biden holding a town hall video conference with Latino
leaders at the same time she's holding this big rally
on the ellipse. I mean, you don't you don't talk
about counterprogramming. It makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
No, And what he said by calling Trump supporters garbage,
and we've played it on the show, we can keep
playing it. If people hadn't heard it in the beginning
of the show. There is no mistaking what he says.
People can say, well, there was an apostrophe there you
don't know about. And he was actually just talking about
the comedian, that's all. That's the only one he was
talking about. You can hear it, you listen to it yourself.

(25:21):
There is no mistaking what he is saying. And he
is not singling out any individual person. And by the way,
the Democrats in Harris and all of them, they weren't
singling out an individual person when they said in Madison
Square Garden rally is a rally of for Nazis. Yeah,
you can't have a rally without a crowd. They're talking
about everybody. They're talking about everyone that was there.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
They are And the thing Dana Perino pointed this out
on America's Newsroom this morning with Bill Hammer, and she
served as was it George Bush. Yeah, she was with
George Bush as the White House spokesperson, right, Dana Persa, Well,
like Dana, she was just here a couple of weeks
ago speaking up at Utah State University. But she was
she was slammed the White House Press Office for massaging,

(26:03):
for changing what he actually said. I know the transcript
of it. And she said that is the most unethical
thing that she's ever heard of.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
And there's some people that used to have credibility that
they are saying. Nice. Try guys to try and suggest
that he would say that about Trump supporters, you a
nice try to say he didn't. I mean, all I
have to do again, if you have ears and you
listen to it, it's not really hard to hear what
he says. It's not it's it's not a muffled moment.
Were very clear, here's what he said. You tell us
what you're hearing.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
Puerto Rico, where I'm in my home state of Delaware.
floating down there is his supporters. His his his demonizational
scene is unconstable.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
His supporters, not America.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I don't know how much it's clear you can be
when he says the only thing I see floating out
there are his supporters.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Yep. So yeah, I think they have a play on it.
I mean, that's that's what they really feel. It's it again,
as you've pointed out of the tracks on the Hillary
Clinton uh as deplorables. But it's the same contempt that
they have for anyone that doesn't voter support who they like.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
I keep on checking social media because I'm waiting for
the campaign, the Trump campaign, to turn that comment around
into an ad. You know it's coming. Donald Trump, Hi,
Donald Trump, and I disagree with that statements. You can
see it coming. You can see it all right. We've
had a lot to get to. Utah Senator Mike Lee
is going to be joining us after we get your
news update at the top of the hour, sender. Lee

(27:27):
has been out on the campaign trail doing a lot
of stump speeches for various candidates. He'll be joining us
and talk about the campaign. And We've got a question
to ask you in that five o'clock hour about Donald Trump.
Is he different today than he was in twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty In fact, is he stronger? A publication
that is not a big supporter of Donald Trump says

(27:47):
that he is stronger today than he ever has been.
We'll get into that coming up right here on the
Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine K and rs. Donald Trump even got in
the cab of a garbage.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Rut Wolf Blitzer, breaking news, breaking news news. Maybe they didn't.
Maybe they thought that was a playoff of the comedian,
but no, no, no, no, no, it's a playoff the president
of the United States. Yeah, they currently they don't quite
calling us all garbage.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, a lot of people are weighing in on what
impact this may have on the campaign, and you have
some audio and audio SoundBite from some people are from
someone that a lot of people listen to about the
impact this may have.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yep. I love it when Frank Luntz is on CNN
kind of telling them, uh, oh, this might not have
been the best move. Let's have a listen ready.

Speaker 12 (28:33):
His comments seemingly describing Trump supporters as quote garbage. The
Harris campaign is trying to downplay the effect of those comments.
Of course they are, But I wonder if you think
that those comments are going to move voters.

Speaker 13 (28:48):
It's going to be huge because this is not some
comedian saying something stupid and offensive at a rally where
he should have been just basically disinvited. This is the
President of the United States endorsing his vice president saying something.
And I know that there's different interpretations about what he said,
it's still inappropriate. He still should be doing it and

(29:11):
I've watched Trump already sees this. The Basket of deplorables
was significant, was meaningful in twenty sixteen, in twenty twenty four,
I can promise you that this is going to drive
Trump turnout. He's doing it already, I can see. I'm
sure there's going to be ads on as soon as
tonight about this. This may be a turning point for

(29:35):
those final three percent. And that's all it is who
still need to be persuaded.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Wow, Wow, that's it. And look, it's it's because it's
it's just because Biden is a little bit you know,
he's not all there. He's saying what they're not supposed
to be saying. He's letting that out at the same time.
By the way, in that event he said that at
was exactly when they were. She was trying to convince
America that she doesn't she's the Canada of Unity, and

(30:03):
he's saying that in a a a an event at
the same time she's trying to do that.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Well, what I find so funny And I disagree with
Frank Lunz on one thing he said in there. He said,
depending on your interpretation of what he said, there is
no interpretation of what Joe Biden said. It's as clear
as a bell, Greg, I mean, how much the American
people are smarter than this. They're going to listen to
that comment and go, yep, that's what he said.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
There's no they can try to say there's floating apostrophees
in the sentence somewhere. You can't see it, folks. You
can just hear it, but you don't see it. But
here's how it's written. And when I write it down,
I can really say it's he's only talking about one person.
You heard it, We've played it. They can't. They can't
talk their way out of what he said. And it's
what they mean. And of course it's what they mean.

(30:49):
They've been saying this for a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And the other argument I heard today, Greg, well, you
know he has a stutter problem, and because of the
stutter problem, it may have confused him as to what exactly,
and that would be.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Called Tourette's syndrome is what he'd have the problem with.
If he was saying something you shouldn't be saying. That's
not stuttering, that's terrets.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
You heard this problem says I've had I've had stuttering
issues in my life. I know exactly what he went through,
and because of his stuttering and the challenges he faces,
he didn't really mean to say that. It just came
out wrong. I'm just this is what the analysts on
the legacy media are all trying to do today, to
explain this comment away. And you can't explain it.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Well, no you can't. And look if we just take
some inventory here, this is what they did for the
entire length of Joe Biden's presidency as a tried to
explain away every gaff, every every comment, everything he said
that showed that he wasn't either there or what he
was saying was wrong headed, they and indefensible. They would
try to make an argument otherwise that it was something
else that you just don't understand, or there must have

(31:48):
been some deep fake from the Republicans that made it
look like that. But that's not really what it is.
We've heard it all. I mean, that's the problem that
the Democrats in the regime media have is that we've
heard all of it from so long. You're not persuading
any one, not anymore.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
All Right, coming up in the five o'clock hour a
headline from a website that is not a big Trump fan,
never has been. But this is the headline of the
story today, the strongest Trump we've ever seen. Wow, we'll
talk about that. Get your reaction to that. And Utah
Center Mike Lee off the campaign's rail. He's going to
be joining us and Jared head thoughts about their race

(32:25):
for the White House coming up. You know, we're having
so much fun today. We should be outlawed. I mean,
it's too much fun.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
It really is. I mean, it's these these stories that
break and then when you see so we're live and
we just start seeing through the feed that Donald Trump's
and Wisconsin in a garbage truck just rolling down the street,
just in that garbage truck. And Wolf Blitzer breaks into
the CNN commentary to say breaking news, and they go
to and Trump's answered questions out the window of a

(32:58):
garbage truck. It is just and these aren't the political
pageantry moments that the Harris campaign creates. These are just
these are just organic. He didn't bring all the supporters
around him.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
It's great they didn't. They didn't catch the first part
of his comments. You don't. He said, I'm in this
garbage truck today to honor Joe and Kamala to thank though,
to thank.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
For their their comments criticizing myself and all those that
would support me.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Well, she was on the campaign trail today. She was
in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. I believe she's now up in Wisconsin.
And here we go again, Greg How I don't understand
how the well the American people will let her know
if they believe it or not, but lies again today stadium.
Trump will ban abortion. He has never said that. Has
he He will ban abortion nationwide, stop acts as to

(33:46):
birth control. I don't think I've ever heard him say that,
threaten iv ivf right. I've never heard him say that.
And follow Project twenty twenty five, which he has blatantly
come out and said I will.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
The New York Post is debunked lie clment debunk that
lie during their Democrat convention. That has been put to bed,
and they just keep unearthing it, which means they don't
have anything real. Even after they've been rebuked by their
regime media that what they're saying isn't true, they have
to keep saying it because if you repeat a lie
long enough, they are hoping people will think it's true.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Someone will believe it. Well, joining us on our Newsmaker
line right now. We've been very fortunate today to catch
up with Utah Senator Lee. He's been a busy guy
out on the campaign trail, of course, stumping for Republican candidates.
He's been working on the Senate side of things. Mike.
Great to have you back on the show. Mike. We
appreciate you doing this and we can tell you've been
on the campaign trail, Mike. You've got kind of a

(34:38):
gravelly voice, Mike, so we're appreciating you being with us.
You've been out there, you've been talking to Americans across
the country. What's your take right now on the presidential race, Mike.

Speaker 8 (34:47):
On the presidential front, Donald Trump's doing really well, and
I think these long form podcast interviews with people like
Joe Rogan have really helped Kamala Harris can't do those.
Closest thing she's had to that maybe her Anderson Cooper interview,
which ended up being seventeen minutes of disaster. And so

(35:08):
I think the contrast between those two is really inure
to the benefit of Donald Trump and the detriment of
Kamala Harris. Just when things couldn't get much worse for her,
we saw President Biden last night calling half the country garbage,
and I really think it's it's hurting Kamala. So I
expect a victory for President Trump. Some are estimating that

(35:30):
he'll have electoral votes somewhere in the range of three
hundred to three hundred and fifteen. We'll see what happens.
I do think also we're going to quinch the majority
for Republicans in the Senate. We're going to pick up
seats almost certainly. We'll pick up West Virginia. We're going
to pick up Montana very likely, and very likely Ohio.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (35:50):
After We've got a decent shot of picking up at
least an additional seat or two between Arizona out of
Wisconsin in Pennsylvania. I think we've got a really good
shot at winning at least one or two of those.
So as looking good. The House races are harder to predict.

(36:14):
There's so many of them, all four hundred thirty five
of them are up every two years, and so I
have a hard time handicapping that. But I think that's going.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
To be closed.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Senator. I love what you're saying about your observations, what
you're seeing out in the out on the stump around
the country in terms of the excitement and the support
about Donald Trump, and I think you're right. I think
that there's a side of him that has not really
been understood. Those of us that have known Resident Trump
are been around him know there's a side the media
has never reported on. And I think that comes out

(36:44):
in some of those long form podcasts that you described.
I'm so glad that you're sharing that because I think
that is true, and I think that's why it's a campaign.
Of addition, I want to ask you a question but
about that, but are times limited, So we just shift
over to a Senate majority. If it's West Virginia and
it's and it's Montana, that those two alone, if you
held serve on the seats that the Republican senators are defending,

(37:06):
which looks likely, you would have the majority. If you
get Ohio and go even deeper, it just gets more
fun from there. But let me ask you this question
because we have your naie. I don't know if your
nose gets itchy in a random part of the day,
but you come up in a lot of conversations with
national commentators about Congress, about leadership, and there's a lot
of discussion going on about who will take Senator McConnell's place.

(37:28):
If you are in the majority and have I need
a majority leader, and you've been very vocal about this,
and I think there's a lot of people tracking what
you're saying about what a leader, a Republican leader in
the Senate should be looking at or how they should
be acting in the next Congress. Maybe you could share
with our listeners what you see as the next majority
leader in the Senate.

Speaker 8 (37:50):
Yeah, so thanks for asking about that. Greg. Look, I
see this as a very important thing. We've had a
Republican leader in the Senate, the same person for the
last eighteen years. He's stepping down from that position. Still
be in the Senate for two more years, but he's
stepping down from that position this fall, and so we'll
be electing a new Republican Senate leader on November thirteenth.

(38:13):
I've been focusing on what before we get to the who.
He's been trying to frame a debate between the three
candidates that we have right now, likely the three only
candidates we've got. John Soon from South Dakota, John Cornyn
from Texas, and Rick Scott from Florida. Trying to frame
a debate in which each of them will be encouraged

(38:35):
to bring forward their own proposals, both for what we
want to accomplish substantively as a conference in the majority,
and also for how they're going to lead the conference.
Some of the things I've focused on in particular address,
for instance, the number of circumstances in which the majority
leader might choose to utilize a procedure known as filling

(38:56):
the tree, by which he can block any one from
having amendment votes, votes on amendments that they introduce on legislation, pandit.
I propose that we not allow our majority leader to
do that in the absence of a supermajority vote within
the conference to do that. It's the kind of reform

(39:18):
that we need badly in the Senate so that we
don't end up with a dictatorship model and that we
have a much more democratic leveling process where each senator
is treated equally.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Mikel I want to get your reaction to this. I
find it very interesting last night that here you have
Kamala Harris on the ellip giving her some people are
calling it her closing argument as to why the American
people should vote for her. But at the same time,
you have Joe Biden in the White House doing a
conference call with Latino leaders at the very same time.

(39:50):
I mean, this does not make a lot of sense
where we have both candidates at the same time. What's
going on? Do you think between the Bidens and the
Harrises right now when it comes to this president to race.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
You know, it's a really strange phenomenon, isn't it. You
don't normally expect to see counter programming between the current
president and the current vice president. Normally it's the president
who gets the deference and from the the vice president.
But in this circumstance, it's a little bit different. You
haven't seen something kind of analogous to this since Alcohol

(40:25):
was running for president as the sitting VP. But here's
the thing. I suspect what happened was that Joe just
decided he wanted to do this call. He may or
may not have thought prove whether to what extent it
would undermine Kamala Harris. But he is the sitting president
of the United States, and I suspect his own staff

(40:46):
didn't want to try to overwhoole him on that, and
in one way or another just didn't talk him out
of it, but it does seem to be harmful, and
it proved especially harmful given that he ended up referring
to people who support Donald Trump roughly half the country
at this point, as garbage. That's not helpful, and I'm
sure she was not pleased about that.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Senator, this is campaign elections. Maybe more blocky and tackling
on elections and less on your role as a senator.
But I know that you're out there, and I know
you're watching this, and I know you're a veteran on
campaigns and elections. There's two things that have happened recently
that I think show Trump's strength far more than what
the polls would let us, would lead us to believe

(41:28):
everything's within everything's within the margin of error if we're
to watch these polls and think that they're accurate. But
there's two things that have happened. One, you have Bob
Casey and the senator in Pennsylvania, the Democrat who is
putting Donald Trump in his ads, his image of him
signing a bill and saying I align with Donald Trump
on foreign policy, on tariffs, things like that. That is

(41:51):
not something he would do if he didn't think he
was hemorrhaging votes or that McCormick was on his tail,
and it must be something that frustrates the Harris campaign
to do. The second issue thing that I'm seeing out
there that would be contrary to the polls is that
in North Carolina, Kamala Harris's campaign has canceled one point
over one point seven million dollars in TV buys in
the future days in this last week. If you read

(42:13):
the polls about that state, it's just it's it's within
less than a zero point five percent. Why in the
world would you ever withdraw from that state? So I
think some of those actions. You got a Bob Casey
that's touting his agreement with Trump, and you have in
North Carolina media buys that are being canceled by Harris's campaign.
Help me, what do you read into that? Or do
you read that there's something bigger than what the polls

(42:36):
are telling us? And those two critical states.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
Okay, let's address each of those issues in turn. As
the first issue. Yeah, we're seeing that. We're seeing that
in Pennsylvania. We are also seeing it in Ohio, where
I was last week campaigning with with my friend Bernie Moreno,
who's running against longtime incumbent Democratic Senator Shared Brown. Shared
Brown is about as far left as Bernie Sanders and

(43:01):
Elizabeth Warren. And yet you have you have Shared Brown
airing ads that have Donald Trump featured in them. It's
the strangest thing I've ever seen anything like it.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Like he has about as much.

Speaker 8 (43:16):
In common with Donald Trump politically as I have with
Joseph Stalin. And this way is just crazy. So that
that shows that something is happening in Ohio, and at
predicted that Donald Trump will win in Ohio and in Pennsylvania.
And so that's why these guys are campaigned that way.
But still you don't see people stooping to that level.

(43:39):
I think this bodes very well for Donald Trump, and
I also think it bodes well for Dave McCormick in
Pennsylvania and for Bernie Moreno in Ohio. As to the
second issue, I don't know what was behind that particular decision, Greg,
that particular decision to all ads spend out of North
Carolina slated to be used in that state. Well, what

(44:00):
I do know is that in a presidential campaign, you've
got a thousand different considerations at any given moment. My
suspicion is that it's got some sort of late breaking
internal poll showing that whatever it is that they're doing
there isn't working, and that there might be some other
state where it could be better spent, where she could
pick up electoral votes in a way that would make

(44:22):
it more likely than what they're seeing in North Carolina.
That's that's what I've strung to suspect to.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Happen there, you tell Sender, Mike Lee joining us on
our newsmaker line, feel sorry for Cender Lee.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
His voice is going, I don't do you know what's
fun he's having going around the country feeling all this momentum.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
Here's a recommendation for Mike. Hot water, lemon and honey, Yes,
and sip on that cenator. Did you hear that? Yeah, Sender,
So just want to let you know a little bit
of hot water. Nice cup of hot water with some
lemon and honey inside.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
That's a voice of a warrior. He's fighting a good
fight out there, doing good.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Now when we come back, a news online service that
a lot of conservatives, I think it was in fact
found by William Bill Buckley, Yeah, William F. Bickael, William F. Buckley,
never a big supporter of Donald Trump, but they're now saying,
in today's story, the strongest Trump they've ever seen. We'll

(45:15):
talk about why, and we'll get your reaction to that
coming up right here on the Rod and Greg Show
in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine k n RS.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
They just found our new theme song, Give me that garbage.
We're the garbage floating around. According to the President of
the United States Biden, think about this real quick. If
if you were lying to the people saying, oh, he's fine,
he's sharp as attack, he's he's really good. I mean,
there's nothing wrong, nothing to see here. When they booted him,
they obviously had to say something different that he wasn't okay.

(45:44):
They had without a convention or without a primary anything,
they had to switch horses. Well, he's back at it now,
saying something that now they're hiding it again. We're revisiting
the whole era of transcripts that are written wrong to
try and not make it look like he's cuckoo for
cocoa pops, trying to say you didn't hear what you heard.
This must be some ai thing from Republicans. We're all

(46:05):
back into that stage because they let him or he
decided to talk. And so if she's not going to
condemn him saying, you know, he's not in his right mind, Folks,
don't listen to him. This is why I'm here. If
she's not going to say that, then she should own
every word.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
He says, Well, I'm just looking at the monitor right now.
We were mentioning here earlier that Trump jumped in the
garbage Trump today, right, yes, Well, now he's addressing and
you can see this on the monitors. Great, he's at
a rally in Wesconsin and he's wearing a trash man uniform.
You know, the orange vest you got to he's taking
the suit coat off or the and put it on

(46:37):
an orange vest. He's just collecting the garbages, taking those votes.
He picked up every one of those boats, He's sure.
And before this, before he showed up, one of the
speakers on the rally stage today was none other than
former Green Bay quarterback Great Brett Farv. Right. Yeah, well,
well he was born a day after or a day
before before me.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
We are the same age, not its the same day,
same year, same day. He's one day.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Older than me. Ok, this is what he said at
the rally a few minutes ago.

Speaker 14 (47:08):
I want to address the comment that Joe Biden made
yesterday last night that said the supporters of Donald Trump
US or garbage or garbage. I can assure you we're

(47:29):
not garbage. How dare he say that?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Looking out.

Speaker 14 (47:36):
I see police officers, teachers, nurses, grandparents, students, I see
everyday Americans that make this country great.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Brett Farv a few minutes ago at a rally for
Donald Trump in Wisconsin, and he's right. I mean, day
people out there, you're going to call them garbage. And
that's exactly what Joe Biden did last night.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
And what's the timing. I mean, when everyone wanted to
make a become hyper sensitive and define an entire rally,
hours long rally in an early comedian who came on
and his comments about Puerto Rico and have that be
the theme and all that that rally was about in
a disparaging way, and then have the president get on it. No,
that's true. You know it's true. All those people supporting

(48:25):
Trump all they're they're the fault. Garbage. You worked that out,
all right.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
We mentioned this, We teach this that the National Review,
which was founded by William F. Buckley, a conservative website
and conservative publication, not a big supporter of Donald Trump.
I don't have they ever come out in supportive Trump.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, they've been, so, they've been, They've they're just they
have Trump drangement syndromest.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Here we have this story today, Greg, This I think
is what getting is what is getting our attention. The
headline the strongest Trump we've ever seen, after everything he's
gained from, after everything he's gained ground on his previous runs.
And they go through a number of things, Greg, let
me point these out. After two impeachments, a re election defeat,

(49:09):
the disgrace of January sixth, multiple indictments, a felony conviction,
and much else besides, Donald Trump has gained strength rather
than shed it. Yes, and they go through this lift.
He has never performed this well in major polls against
a Democratic nominee. They look at twenty sixteen, he trailed

(49:29):
Hillary in every national poll, but he won. In the
final months of twenty twenty, Biden was beating Trump in
every pole except one. It came pretty darn close. In
recent weeks, Trump has led in the Wall Street Journal, Forbes,
and CNBC polls by three, two and two points respectively,
now getting better numbers than he ever has starting from

(49:50):
a low level, Trump is more popular than he ever
has been. It's true, and it is true.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
And I want to thank the regime media for helping
in that that case, because really, the Democrats, the leftist
this regime media, they are the ones that booted out
RFK Junior from their party and would not allow for
a straight up primary that he was seeking as a Democrat.
Made sure, they gamed it up and made sure and
kicked him out of their party. Tulca Gabbert, they followed her,

(50:17):
They put her on a terrorist watch. This, this is
a veteran, this is someone who serves our country. Kicked
her out. And the indictments and everything they've done to
Trump to go after him. The people just watch all
of this and go there is something wrong here. They
they the leftists in this regime media. They have contributed
to Trump's success. Yeah, they have directly contributed to it.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Kamala Harris has been the Democratic presidential candidate for three
months now, right, she has yet to get one vote. Yeah,
I mean think about this. I mean, she didn't go
through the riggers of a primary season and when she
did what was was this back in twenty nineteen, twenty
twenty nineteen, she had some doubt before they even had
a voteccus, before the Yeah. The National Review ends their

(51:01):
article saying that Trump's current position is one reason his
supporters are so optimistic. If he won in twenty sixteen
in a much weaker condition, why wouldn't they think he'll
win this time?

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Right? And that's you know how painful it is for
the National Review to say that that's kill him. It
kills them as much as it would a Democrats say
they would hate they They are totally entrenched in that
that that you know, establishment swamp up there. That's that's
all their friends are talking.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Now when we come back, we want to open up
the phones because Greg and I would like to get
your thoughts on this. Do you think that Donald Trump
is stronger today than he was in twenty sixteen and
twenty twenty and why? What has made him stronger? In
your opinion? Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero
one zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero,
or on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod,

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is Donald Trump stronger today than he ever has been?
And If so, why that's it.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That's a question. What you need to hear from you
the listeners, smartest listening audience and all the land.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
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Speaker 1 (52:13):
Do you know how many hard working garbagemen are going away?
A minute? What's the problem here?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, what's problem?

Speaker 1 (52:17):
What are you talking about? I'm talking about the garbage
you pick up, not not you. The garbage man that's
Trump wants to be you, because if we're the garbage
those that support Trump, he wants to be like you,
who picks up the garbage, who collects all the votes.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yeah. So you know, I've always wanted to drive a
garbage truck now because they got those army things that
come out and grab it, yeah, lift it up. You
don't maybe in other city, so you don't find garbagemen
grabbing the you know, the buckets and the trash.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
You guys that run on the sides, they hold onto
the back and then they jump off and they grab it,
throw it.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
In the back and k town. They just have one
garbage truck driving. So you got one of those devices
that come on grabs it and don't.

Speaker 1 (52:52):
Where they do it our place too.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Kind of cool, kind of cool. All right, we're talking
about not garbage, well, in a way we are. We're
talking about what Joe Biden said about supporters of Donald Trump.
Article today in the National Review online, and they put
a lot of things together, but they say Donald Trump
is the strongest we've ever seen before. So we're asking
you tonight eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero

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one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound two fifteen,
and say, hey, Rod, do you think that Donald Trump
is stronger today than he was in twenty sixteen, in
twenty twenty and if so, why.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Hey, let's go to the callers and find out what
you have to say about this. Let's go to Dean
and Bountiful. Dean, welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.
What's your take, sir?

Speaker 15 (53:38):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (53:40):
Please, the Trump is stronger than whatever report because he
has a plan, He gets an office, he's gonna work
and get.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
You know what, Dean, We're I have to cut you off. Dean,
please call back. The connection was awful.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
I heard you. He says Trump has a plan, but
it was just so it was it was like Morris
coach and I could I was picking up what he's
put down, but I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Give eight eight eight five seven eight zero one, Jerald.
Let's go to another call. Let's go to Tim in
provo tonight here on the Roding Greg Show. Hey, Tim,
how are you.

Speaker 15 (54:12):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 17 (54:12):
This is Tim, first time listener, longtime caller.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Great, great, thank you. Sorry the other way around, right, Jim,
go ahead, Jim.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
I'm just a little nerv it.

Speaker 17 (54:24):
Yeah. No, Trump is stronger than ever because he's just
a likable person.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Now.

Speaker 17 (54:28):
Before it was all of his policies that made me
vote for him.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
Now it's just.

Speaker 17 (54:32):
Driving around in a garbage truck and working at McDonald's
are hilarious. Like you say, it's something that I would do.
It just really makes shift, you know, puts a smile
on your face. And I just more excited than ever
to go vote with Trump.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
I agree with you, Tim, And he has he's had
these human just these really funny instincts and and and
just personality that was never really you couldn't find it,
and he actually wasn't really willing to share it much
either his campaign, his human side has been His personal
side has been really out there on display and smart
ways too, not just in artificial ways. And I think

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people are tracking that like Tim Is, like I have,
and many so I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Well, I think I think this time around Greg, to me,
he has seemed so much more relaxed. He's comfortable with
what he's trying to do. Before last time, he was
so new, especially in twenty sixteen. I mean, he was
so new at this I don't know if he had
any idea what he was about to do or undertake.
He's still won, but he you know, this time he

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must he has a much better team behind him. I mean,
with a classic example, what they're doing today with him.
They have got him in a garbage truck today. He
is addressing a rally right now in Green Bay, Wisconsin.
He's wearing eight trash man's out with orange vest where
as an orange and yellow vent as he's talking to
the audience, shedding his suit cote. I mean, he he

(55:56):
just seems more relaxed and he seems like he's having
fun doing it this time. Yeah. Yeah, Let's go to
Lee in Salt Lake County tonight here on the Rowden
Greg Show. Lee, how are you thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
I am good. I hope you guys are good as well.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
We are. Thank you.

Speaker 15 (56:12):
All right?

Speaker 3 (56:13):
Greg. I heard you earlier saying that you're relatively sure
that a Democrat would not listen to the show.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Correct, Lee, I could not imagine such a scenario. But
please tell me what if you disagree.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
I am a registered Democrat in Salt Lake County.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
I listened to your program as often as possible. The
reason why I listened to your program is I like
to hear other points of view. I now live in
an echo Chambery. I know many Democrats, especially those of
us who lean further left of the actual Democratic Party,
would do the same. Dialogue is what this country needs.

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This dialogue is what will bring us to some sort
of agreement rather than one side calling another side garbage.
And I don't care what side you're on, whether you're
Joe Biden, or you're Tony Hinchcliff, or you're anyone else.
If you're making a joke at a comedy roast, that's fine.

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In terms of speaking for a political campaign or at
a political rally, it's completely wrong.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Yeah, Yeah, Lee, I think I heard you say you're
farther left than the traditional Democratic Party. Can you explain
how far left are you?

Speaker 18 (57:35):
Lee?

Speaker 2 (57:35):
I mean, do you believe in some of the statements
that Kamala Harras made several years ago when it comes
to fracking and illegal immigration and crime?

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Okay, so traditionally far left people do not disregard laws.
We have to have loss for a reason. Rather than
saying no, let's just completely open the borders and let
everybody in, what we should do is remember that this
country was built on immigration. Unless you have a significant

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amount of Native American heritage, your family came from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
I agree, you're you're.

Speaker 3 (58:20):
Not native to this continent in any way, shape or form.
So hey, ladies, so many people.

Speaker 18 (58:30):
Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I gotta tell you you just sound far too reasonable
to be a Democrat. I don't even know what I
don't even know how you got to where you are
because I'm telling you I agree. I think that we
have to look at laws we can't have. It's so
prohibitive that it draws people to want to commit to
cross illegally. It should be I think a tall wall,
but it should be a wide gate and I like
the fact that you're a democrat or left of center

(58:51):
and you listen because you want to hear the other
ideas that are getting thrown around. That's I respect that,
I really do.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Yeah. Let thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
We've got to I just I want to say, you
sound very reasonable, sir.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
This is what we hope we get on this show.
We get a cross section of views and talk to people.
Maybe we can create some understanding here. Now we're going
to have strong opinions, because both of us have strong opinions,
but we aren't going to turn anybody off who wants
to call in and share their thoughts.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Well, look, at least said I believe in the rule
of law.

Speaker 2 (59:22):
Yeah, I came into that.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Just check that common ground there, it is right there.
I love it.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah. Now, all right, more of your calls coming up.
Is Donald Trump stronger today than he was in the
last two presidential runs? And if so, why your calls
and your comments eight eight eight five seven o eight
zero one zero eight eight eight five seven o eight
zero one zero or on your cell phone, Donald pound
two fifty and simply say hey. Ron. The National Review Online,
which has never been a big supporter of Donald Trump's

(59:49):
out with an article today calling him the strongest Trump
we've ever seen. If you agree with that, why is
he stronger today than he was in twenty sixteen and
twenty twenty. What has Let's go back to the phones.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
So let's go to Joe and Sandy. Joe, Welcome to
the Rodding Gregg Show.

Speaker 16 (01:00:06):
Hey, guys, how you doing this afternoon. I just wanted
to call in and say absolutely, I think Trump is
stronger now after the experience the American people have had
for the last four years. And you see obviously where
the country is today versus where we were five years ago.
Night and day difference. Your last caller, Lee, really great perspective.
I think you should have him on tomorrow or another

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day obviously before the election. So your callers, I was
loving the conversation. It's like, man, a different point of
view from your typical caller like me that agrees with
a lot of what you say.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, yeah, I thought. I applaud Lee for calling in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
And you know, and I want him being smart alec
you or anything. When I interrupted him, say you sounds
far too reasonable, because I actually was. I liked that
he said, there's a rule of law and there you
shouldn't just ignore the law, and I thought that was
it was nice to hear some common ground there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Let's go to Daniel, who's in Davis County tonight on
the Rotten Gregg Show. Daniel, how are you?

Speaker 19 (01:01:00):
Thanks for joining us, gentlemen, thank you for taking my call.
My point is that I believe that Trump is stronger
now than he ever was because he takes on the
establishment and he's not the He's not the party, you know,
a party apparachius. He's the anti government candidate for a

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lot of people in the Republican Party and a lot of
those who are undeclared. He always talks about draining the lamp.
Unfortunately he didn't succeed during his first turn. But I
think too many people see the government as it is
these days as a hindrance to freedom to live in

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our life the way we want to live it. And
it's it's a modern day aristocracy. It's a club or
people believe that they are better than the common man
or a moment well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Good points, and I would agree, and I think it
took four years of this crazy administration to really hit
that home, like we could talk about it. We saw
a lot of it, but we've gotten such heavy doses
of it over the last almost four years that I
think that has been made a lot more clear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
You know what, Greg, you said something earlier this week.
I think what we have seen under the Joe Biden,
Kamala Harrison, really Barack Obama's third term, if you want
my opinion, Yeah, we have seen what life is like
under a very progressive policy. Government has gotten bigger, taxes
have gotten higher, Government is trying to control every facet

(01:02:33):
of our lives, and Americans are saying, we don't want
that anymore. And we think Donald Trump kenry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
They're printing money, the flation's going up, we can't afford anything.
Let's go to Bob in North Salt Lake. Bob, Welcome
to the Rodd and Greg Show. Thank you for holding.
What's your take?

Speaker 18 (01:02:48):
First of all, I think that Trump's doing it very well,
and I'm excited because I'm really counting on him to
pull through. But I've been really curious about why he's
not really doing, you know, blowing the polls away, because
I hear all the time saying he's made great gains
among the Spani's made great games among blacks, the Jewish population.

(01:03:11):
If he's making all these games, he should be doing
even much better than he did in twenty sixteen or
twenty twenty. So I'm just curious why it's still so close.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
And Bob, I'll tell you I agree. I first off,
he is. He is markedly doing better in the polls
than he was back then. But to your point, this
is why I tell you to look at these betting
markets where people put their money where their mouth is.
It's a little bit more of a serious opinion because
they're willing to put that money down. And then that
shows you a very different race. And then when you
see Kamala Harris withdrawing one point seven million in television

(01:03:42):
commercials in North Carolina, while they're still saying that race
is a toss up, I think there is evidence out
there or bought Senator Democrat Bob Casey putting Trump in
his ads in Pennsylvania. There are tells out there that
absolutely he's doing a lot stronger than those polls would suggest.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, I think he is as well. All Right, you know,
we run, we got a lot of culture. We carry
over a few of these calls. We can do that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
I love I love talking.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
We've got some listeners on the line. We know you
want to weigh in on this, so we're going to
ask you to either hold now or call us back
after we get a news update, because we love your
perspective on this. We've talked to our next guest. He's
willing to push it back a little bit, so we'll
talk to you about that. The question is as you
work your way home tonight, The National Review Online says
Donald Trump is stronger than they've ever seen. If that's

(01:04:29):
the case, why your thoughts and comments coming up our
number three at the Rodden Greg Show. That's what Trump
said last night in asking his supporter to forgive Joe
Biden for his comment about them all being garbage people.
You know, not what he sayth when you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Were gone back in March, the President of the United
States called the then Rod Ourquet show. I was filling
in for you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it, and I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Really try to get him to be arsenal and give
me an emotional reaction to those charges of the documents
being dropped. He didn't want to go there. He just
was like it was water off a duck's back. He
just wanted to keep talking about issues and he didn't.
He doesn't. He didn't like to be personal. I'm telling
you my theory is after that near fatal assassination attempt,
I think he has it has actually just made him

(01:05:21):
a little more perspective. His perspective has changed. I think
he's willing to open up a little bit more about
his you know, his personal side, which he was never
really all that keen on sharing, at least in a broadway.
I mean, I saw it, but people would see it
who'd been around him, But you didn't see it in campaigns,
and you do now. And I think there was something
about what's happened to him personally in this election that

(01:05:43):
has made him open up a little more.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
I've never met the man. I know you have. You've
been with him before, and I'm always told he has
a really funny sense of huming.

Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
He does and heming. He's incredibly curious. He asks you
so many questions about what you're doing and who you are.
He couldn't I couldn't get him on the show. He
kept asking you ray about the job. He was so
interested in what he was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Doing, what he was doing that through all right, if
you're just joining us, we're taking some calls a few
of our listeners that have decided to stay over with us,
and they went on weigh in on this and the
question is the National Review Online says this is the
strongest Trump they've ever seen. We want to see if
you agree with that. What makes a difference between sixteen
and twenty and in twenty four is he stronger? And why?

(01:06:25):
Let's go to Nate in Salt Lake tonight here on
the Rodden Greg Show. Nate, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 20 (01:06:32):
Yeah, thanks, guys, I love your show. I will be honest.
I did not feel like I was going to vote
for Trump the third time around. I voted for him
twice after the primary. I've gotten behind him, but I
do believe now that he is stronger than he's ever been.
But I believe he's stronger because of the people he
surrounded himself with. With RFK Junior Elon JD. Trump's always

(01:06:58):
been good on policy, but I feel where he's really
been poor is with his mouth. He always gets himself
in trouble. But now he has people that I think
can sometimes say his policy more eloquently than he can,
and I think that's really helped pushing him to the
next level.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
Yeah, I would agree. One of those who is really
helping him. I thing, Nate, I want to see if
you agree with me on this is JD Vance. I
mean JD. Vans can take his policies and really put
him in very understandable language that the American people can
relate to. Do you agree with me, Nate?

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
Absolutely?

Speaker 20 (01:07:34):
I you know, seeing him on so many talk shows,
they can't get that guy in a corner. He knows how,
he knows how to explain what's going on. They try
to trip him up, and he doesn't play the game,
and he knows what to say and when to say
it and when to hold back, which Trump can't always do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
That's true. So I'm waiting for the podcast to come out. Man,
thank you for your call, Nate. So Joe Rogan, they
did almost four hours today, come out at some point
and then YouTube will ban it. But let's go to
Scott in West Jordan. Scott, thank you for holding and
thank you for calling the Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 10 (01:08:18):
Well, two quick points, Trump WI is going to do
a lot better. I think after that in their death experience,
that's helped a lot. But I think he kind of
went into it maybe not why eyes wide open the
first time around, and I think he knows who he
can trust and who he needs to put around him
to actually be more successful.

Speaker 20 (01:08:39):
His policies were spot on.

Speaker 10 (01:08:41):
But my second point is kind of going along with
your other caller, is these kids nowadays. I mean, I've
got kids in my own family. They listen to so
much to the news, and the news is so terrible
about taking one phrase, one sentence, one word and turning
it into the whole program. And these kids are like going,

(01:09:03):
oh my god, I can't believe it. I can't stand Trump.
I said, just listen to kN Rs Foxs for just
two weeks, just two weeks, and I'll tell you. My
son in law came to me. He says, I am
so offended. He's a black American. He said, I am
so offended the way these guys are talking to me
right now, and that they've lied to me so bad.

(01:09:23):
I am all Trump Baby all.

Speaker 11 (01:09:27):
Day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I love that, Scott. You made our day man.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
That's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Hello Scott. All right, let's go back to the phones.
Let's go to West Jordan and see what Darnell has
to say tonight here on The Roden Great Show. Darnell,
thanks for joining us.

Speaker 15 (01:09:41):
Yeah, I appreciate it. Hey, I was just calling in
connection with the individual talking about uh immigrants and staff.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:09:48):
I believe in immigration and the legalized way to come in.
My grandparents came in as immigrants. But I disagree with
him where he says unless you're what they call themnative Americans,
the Indians, unless you're one of them, you're still an immigrant.
Well I disagree with that, and that I was born
in this country, which makes me a uh not an eminent,

(01:10:13):
but I'm a yeah, I'm a native. And the other
thing is that if you are a member of the
Church of Jesus Christ and you believe in that Book
of Mormon, well the Native Americans were immigrants also.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, Darnell, you're right, You're right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
We are a nation of immigrants. There's no you can
say it's such a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
Yeah, you can say that. But our grandparents are great grandparents,
are great great parents, We're immigrants. We were born in
this country.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
So you know, when we say we're a nation of immigrants, yes,
and no.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
And that, but that leaves me in a position where
I had been when I was speaker. I preside over
one of these immigration ceremonies where all these people were
swearing in and I get to speak to them, and
I'm going, look, we are we are at Land of
the Free, home of the brave. I have your back,
you have mine. We are Americans, all of us together,
and it's one of the one of the I did
it a few times, and they were some of the
most emotional and uplifting moments I've ever had in that

(01:11:11):
state capitol. And and people afterwards with their flags were
taken selfies and pictures, and people are so happy, and
they're from truly all around the world. It's not from
any just certain geographic area that is that is me.
I felt like I got to say, we are in
this together. You they they they are being sworn into
citizens and welcome to this country. And anyway, I I

(01:11:31):
love it. I speak from someone whose family came during
that I think the potato famine that from Ireland. My
family came over, the Hughes family did. But but yeah,
that that's our that's our history. But I think that's
what makes this country so strong, is all that all
that we bring, and we brought by generations.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I remember years ago had a chance to be up
the stadium of Fire down there in Profol, which is
always a great fun event. They do a wonderful job.
And one year they decided to what do you call
this ceremony when people become citizens? Their a name for
this naturalization naturalization ceremony, right, And I bet they had
three hundred to four hundred citizens, and I think Orrin

(01:12:08):
hatch as I recall, issued the pledge to them, and
it was I mean, had three four five hundred people
on the field down there at Lavelle Edward Stadium and
they had just become Americans. What a proud moment that was.
I'm jealousy you You've been able to participate in it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
It was beautiful and cool, and they did it the
right way. They followed the law. They didn't assume there
was ways around it. They didn't want to break it.
They wanted to follow the law. And it's hard, and
maybe it shouldn't be as arduous as it's been. And
I and I don't disagree with that either. But you
follow the law, you let people have that opportunity as
it and I think it's I think it's a great thing.
And I think that those that come illegally. It's it's

(01:12:48):
at their own it's a disservice to them themselves at
the hide. They have to commit a identity theft to
get a job, they have to there's all these barriers
if you're coming here illegally, that put you at odds
with our societ and and anybody saying they're doing it
for reasons of compassion or lying, it is not. It
is to get below wage labor. It is to use
people in ways that we shouldn't as human beings. The

(01:13:10):
cartels are running that. Don't let anyone tell you different.
It's not huddled masses. These are cartels that run and
profit from this. And so so I love I love
the comments about immigration because there's the right way to
do it in the wrong way, and I don't think
you're going to find a lot of disagreement that we
do believe in the right way to see immigration occur
in our country.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
This may have been a couple of years ago, greg
and this may figure may be off, but I thought
I heard someone say that the cartels were profiting off
of this to the tune of ten billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
I wouldn't surprised.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
And I imagine, well, I imagine Greg, the figure is
even higher.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
Now, Well, it's drug trafficking and human trafficking, and you
use people for both. And they even bring them over
in false pretenses saying you're going to be in agriculture,
and they get here and they find out, No, they're
slinging heroin or they're slinging fentanyl. They're doing there, dealing
with that they didn't even know they were going to
be doing. And there's no they they're stuck or they're
in big trouble. So this that is, you know, as

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we saw our global supply chain come apart, the one
supply chain the Biden administration made sure was healthy was
these cartels. They were the ones that were profiting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
All right, when we come back, we're on change course
a little bit. We're going to talk about Michelle Obama's
relentless resentment. What is up with that? Michelle. We'll talk
about that coming up next right here on the Rod
and Greg showing Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine
k n RS.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
The Great Rod Arkeet said, Aaron Judge, would you just
please hit one? And he hit one out of the part,
and then no sooner that he said it than he
did it. So I think that the Yankees are down
because you have just not made simple requests.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, that's up until now. That's true. See see and
said it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
And it happened. I'm telling you a second later.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
We have something in common. He is a great athlete.
I'm a great athlete.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Yeah, yes, you guys, it's very similar. Yeah, you're statue
you're six seven to two, right, yeah, all.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Right, right to eighty. Well I'm eighty, but not six
to seven. All right, welcome back, Roddy greg. Now. It
was just a couple of days ago Michelle Obama went
out on the campaign trail and decided to do a
little politicking for her good friend Kamala Harris, and she
said something like this.

Speaker 7 (01:15:14):
Your rage does not exist in a vacuum. If we
don't get this election right, your wife, your daughter, your mother,
we as women will become collateral damage to your rage.

(01:15:35):
So are you, as men, prepared to look into the
eyes of the women and children you love and tell
them that you supported.

Speaker 2 (01:15:44):
This assault on our safety?

Speaker 7 (01:15:47):
And to the women listening, we have every right to
demand that the men in our lives do better by us.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
All right. That is a Michelle Obama. So what is
it about her resentment? Like a burr under her saddle.
Joining us on our Newsmaker line to talk about it
is Mark Judge. He is a journalist and author. Mark,
thanks for joining us tonight. All right, what is it
with Michelle Obama's resentment?

Speaker 16 (01:16:14):
I'm not sure. I'm not a psychiatrist, but I think
that she's angry and bitter about something. And what I
was pointing out in my article is that she's linked
to the history of the civil rights movement, of course,
but it's actually a departure from the civil rights movement,
which during Martin Luther King's time talked about avoiding resentment.

(01:16:34):
And I don't think she's avoided.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Resent not at all, not at all.

Speaker 20 (01:16:41):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Now, Mark, and so Mark, here's my thing, And I
think my whole theory has just gone out the window.
I was convinced that if Kamala Harris had been asked to,
if she had run to replace Joe Biden, which I
knew there was going to be a switcheroo coming, I
thought she would just walk away with this election, that
she would she would win, but with a tone and
with the entitlement that she is speaking to people with

(01:17:04):
that I've never seen in campaign elections. Would she have
been a successful candidate if this is how she was
going to make her case to Americans.

Speaker 16 (01:17:13):
Well, it's quite interesting because you never hear about her
adolescence in Canada, and it seems like she which would
to me, would be interesting. That's an interesting aspect of
someone's life. And I think she came to Howard University,
which is a grade school, but I think she got
immersed in sort of more radical politics and more resentful
politics there, and like Obama, she sort of created this thing.

(01:17:36):
And the way to improve, impress the left, and get
on the left good side is to scratch that itch
of anger, bitterness, resentment. It's James Pearson, the great cultural critic,
called it punitive liberalism. It's not old school liberalism. It's
liberalism that intends to punish, like America needs to be punished.
And it's hard to run for president of a country

(01:17:59):
that you want upun it right, And that's her bag,
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
So contrast that with Michelle Obama. Would she have given
her the way she's talking to the voters? Would she
have been a value add would she have done better?
I thought she would have, But I don't know. I'm
not so sure now as I'm hearing her, you know,
speak as a surrogate for Kamala.

Speaker 18 (01:18:20):
Harris, right.

Speaker 16 (01:18:21):
And I'm even a political conservative, and I've always liked
Michelle Obama. I just thought she was cool. I thought
she was like a cool person. But my gosh, the
ranker and the grizzly nature of her speech. It was
very bloody and violent and you know, your men are
going to beat you if you don't toe the line.
I mean, that's not forbada, but that was the tone
of it. And I just thought, you know, again, how

(01:18:44):
can you be in love with and want to leave
a country that you want to punish, and especially you
want to punish half the population, which is the men.
And you know, every spiritual program, from Alcoholics Anonymous to
the Civil rights movement talks about what a poison resentment is.
I mean, the founder of Alcoholics Anonymous said this will

(01:19:06):
get you drunk and screw your life up worse than anything,
because resentment is so poisonous, it's like a cancer. And
that's it's not America America. You know, Martin Luther King
was the best of us. It was I'm going to
do this through love and reason and the natural law
and Thomas Aquinas and that's what I'm going to use

(01:19:27):
to make this change. And it worked. It worked brilliantly
because he you know, he loved America. He wanted America
to be its best. But again in the sixties, this
punitive liberalism came in, which is, you're wrong for Vietnam,
you're wrong for poverty, you're wrong for racism. You must
be punished. And I think the selections Americas are just

(01:19:50):
at the end point of that. They're even classical liberals,
not even conservatives, are like, I'm tired of you wagging
your finger in my face telling me I'm bad. Because
America has problems, but it's also a grand, wonderful, brilliant,
one of a kind place, and they've lost that balance.
It's all just anger now.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
Well Mark and her and her husband are classic examples
I think of American success stories. Her husband got elected
to something that has never happened before, being the first
black president. She was a successful attorney. He was doing
okay in the Senate of the dime as a freshman senator,
but now look at him after, you know, after eight
years in the White House. They owned three or four
homes around the country in very exclusive neighbor you know,

(01:20:32):
around the world, in very exclusive neighborhoods. What they've become
very insular, haven't they.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Completely?

Speaker 16 (01:20:40):
And I made the observation the other day. You know,
when I was in high school working summer jobs, as
you know, a white kid in the suburbs of DC,
I was actually making less money than Kamala Harris at
the same time. So again it's this it's a class thing.

Speaker 20 (01:20:58):
You know.

Speaker 16 (01:20:59):
I've worked a lot of man labor jobs because I
do that to supplement my writing. And when you work
those jobs, you don't meet angry people. You meet people
who get along. There's not racism, and there's not this
resentment and this anger and everything. And it's ironic that
these super wealthy elite people have all this bitterness and
you go work at a home deep or a grocery

(01:21:19):
store like I have, and everyone's cool. Everyone gets along.
There's Americans there, there's immigrants there, there's recent arrivals there.
We're all Americans and we all get along. And the
irony is at our Marter's vineyard. You don't get that,
you get rage.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I could agree more. I've been a bell hop. I've
been a valet at a Tambaline's restaurant. I've been I've
done all jobs and growing up, and I understand the
side hustles too, Mark. And so I don't see the
kind of rage that you're seeing from the liberal elite.
Why are they a campaign of subtraction? All this means
to me is that they are wagging their finger and

(01:21:57):
scolding you to support their candidate, which I've never seen
as an effective tool to win an election. How did
they get so disconnected? And and and is there any
will any of that actually take just your opinion, I
know it's not a right wrong answer, but do you
think that the way they're approaching the American people with
this rhetoric, in this kind of elitism, is that going

(01:22:17):
to resonateor is someone can get fooled by that?

Speaker 20 (01:22:21):
I hope not.

Speaker 16 (01:22:22):
And to answer how we got here? You know, James
Pearson this brilliant history and wrote a book called Camelot
and the Cultural Revolution about the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
And I won't get long winded here are digressed, but
distill at his point was liberalism lost its mind when
Kennedy was assassinated because they couldn't admit that Kennedy was
killed by a communist. So if Kennedy wasn't killed by

(01:22:43):
a communist who killed him, America killed them. And Pearson's
point was, whereas in the fifties the right was considered conspiratorial, paranoid, racist,
right wing crazy, all of a sudden, the left became that,
like the left became all of those things. And according
to Pierson, it's been going on for decades now, and

(01:23:03):
I still see that echoed in the Democratic Party, where
it's that same thing from the sixties and seventies of
after Kennedy's death, of again, America must be punished. Your bad,
your evil, your foreign policy is evil, you're racist, And
for fifty years they have not been able to shake that,
and I wish they would because I come from a

(01:23:24):
John F. Kennedy, you know, classical liberal family, and my
father wouldn't recognize Michelle Obama's speech. He would think it
was lunatic.

Speaker 2 (01:23:34):
And it was. I think it was lunatic as well.
Mark Judging, Mark Judge, we appreciate March joining us, and
I think he's right. Greg. I mean, I'm not sure
why she is so resentful because of everything that she's
earned a lot of this on her own way. I
understand that, but I just don't give it. Do not
get they have an inflated opinion of themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
They think they can really tell you, hey, you're not
doing as we expected you. Berry get going, start start
doing it the way we're telling you. And I just
think that that is just I mean, remember her convention
speech when she said, my parents said if people have
a lot of money, you got to watch out with
their Mozart said from a person with a ton.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
Of money, with a lot of money. Now, I mean,
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:12):
Again, they're just completely discant. There's no self awareness going on.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
Yeah, all right, We've got more coming up on the
Roden greg Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine knrs. With Donald Trump today. Of course, following the
garbage come in made by Joe Biden last night, Donald
Trump went to he's in Wisconsin today, arrived at the
airport and guess what picked him up? A garbage truck

(01:24:36):
and he was wearing a garbage band's vest. Right, But
apparently he told the audience he really didn't want to
wear it. And we'll let you hear what he had
to say, coming up, you're on Utah's talk radio one
oh five nine k and rs. Now you know how
many people greg have you run into who have said
to you, Oh, I wish this would just get over
I am tired of all of this. Can we just

(01:24:58):
move on? Do you hear a lot of people running
in to you saying can we get this over with?

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
No, I'm having too much fun.

Speaker 2 (01:25:04):
You're having fun.

Speaker 1 (01:25:05):
I'm married, nobody, no one's, no one's you know, spoiled
it for me? No one said that. But no, it
can be exhausting. I can clearly see how this campaign
election season, because it's so strong. I mean, there's a
lot at stake here. So yes, I agree with the sentiment,
even though I don't feel it at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Well, you love this stuff?

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Well, this whole garbage saying that's just coming out I'll
run on the areas is so beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:25:25):
You love this stuff?

Speaker 17 (01:25:26):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Apparently, a survey done by Pugh shows that sixty five
percent of Americans say they always are often feel exhausted
when they think about politics. Let's find out why. Joining
us on our Newsmaker line right now is Denise Getcham.
She is a political conjurbutor at News Nation. Denise, thanks
for joining us tonight. All right, why are people getting

(01:25:47):
so fatigued? What is going on? Denise?

Speaker 21 (01:25:49):
Well, I like you, I love politics, and so if
that's any indication of awareness, I gladly share that mantle.
But for most Americans, and even on some days especially,
I think in this last week, I think we're all
ready for the ugliness of politics to pass, because the
intensity is just so much right now that people are
experiencing anxiety, anxiety at historic heights, you know, and it's

(01:26:12):
so unfortunate that we've gotten to this point in our
political system where that is a marker of what we
can expect to feel. So, you know, there's a lot
of things we can do to tamper down that anxiety
that has to do with the way that we think
about politics and the role of government in our lives.
But it's hard to recall them in the heat of
the moment. So it's definitely understandable that there's fewer of

(01:26:33):
us than there are of them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:34):
Well, you know, John F. Kennedy said that politics is
the only sport for adults, and I happen to agree,
but not to understand. Not the demeanor to say it's
not super important, because it is. But I got to
tell you, it does get exhausting. If the rhetoric gets
so inflammatory, and we see we've had an election cycle
with two attempted assassinations on former President Trump, it just

(01:26:56):
gets beyond the pale. And so my family, people that
don't follow politics or involved as much as I have
been or or I am now, it does become something
that people don't want to be engaged in or a
part of. Do you think in this election, because I
think a lot of the people that don't like politics
or don't trust politicians are find an appeal with Donald

(01:27:16):
Trump and the way he talks, maybe even a rough
edges Do you think that this election cycle might be
the calm? I mean, well, we just sober up a
little bit and get a little bit better after this election,
given how the madness that we've all lived through.

Speaker 21 (01:27:31):
Well, I'm always hopeful that the holidays help remind us
that we're more than our political affiliation.

Speaker 14 (01:27:35):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:27:36):
One of the reasons I think that people feel so
strongly about things is because they tend to overidentify in
an unhealthy way with the things that these political parties
have told us we should believe if we identify with
a political party, and I think that whenever we lose
sense of our true identity, which is, as you know,
we do politics. We believe in certain things, but we

(01:27:56):
aren't politics. And I think when we redefine ourselves as
you know, children, as of parents, as friends, as neighbors,
as fellow churchgoers, as all the other things that actually
give us meaning in life, the real meaning, the emotional
meaning that makes life worth living, I think that helps us.
I think the holidays do help us remember that. And

(01:28:17):
I'm hopeful that they switch into high gear real quick
with all of that thinking. But it's not always inevitable.
As we all know, there's a lot of family members
that we love that we disagree with that sit around
us at the table. And actually I have a book
that kind of addresses some of those issues and how
we can navigate those things. You know, one of the
things I think is most important is that we speak

(01:28:38):
the truth and love. I think it's so important that
we speak the truth about how we feel, that we
are known for what we stand for, because it's important
that we use our voice. That's what our democracy is
all about. Right But at the same time, speaking the
truth and love and humility is something that I think
that we can all do better at, including me, And
I do this for a living. You know, there's times
when I'm just so convinced that i'm but in fact

(01:29:00):
I don't have the full perspective on everyone's experience. But
it's not only my experience that counts. Other people's experiences
and perspectives.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
Matter too, Denise, I've mentioned this on the air. I'm
not sure if Greg agrees or disagrees with me on this.
He may, but I've said there are two factors in
this election this year, and I think one of them
is people are afraid about the outcome of this election.
I mean, I hear from a lot of people on
the right who say, you know, Kamala just scares the
daylights out of them as to what she may do,

(01:29:31):
and of course those on the last who are saying
that Donald Trump is a threat to democracy. How much
is the fear factor do you think playing into this
election this year or is it any different from any
other year.

Speaker 21 (01:29:43):
Oh, it's enormous, because you know, the issues that are
at stake are real and they have enormous weight. People
steel on both sides of the Aisle. I think the
issue is that we have to remind ourselves of is
that it's not existential now. And I say this as
somebody who is a person of faith, I believe that
the government is not God. In fact, only in socialism
is the government meant to replace God. And we don't

(01:30:04):
live in a socialist country thing for this. But I
believe that because God is in control, that we can
always trust him and not any human being, any elected official,
to look out for what we need to provide, protect
and really be sort of a leader for us. And
so I'm not saying that our leaders don't matter. Obviously
they do or wouldn't be in this sport of politics.

(01:30:25):
But I do think that the issues that end up
being decided by the person who's elected at the top
of the ticket will also always be balanced, thankfully by
our forefathers who had great wisdom when they put in
checks and balances into the system. And we know that
regardless of what happens on election day, we're going to
have a split government, most likely where there'll be Republicans
in charge of at least the Senate, possibly the House

(01:30:48):
as well, maybe the White House. But there'll be some
division where you know, if we're not going to have
a democratic Senate that's almost certain, and the rest of
the branches, who knows what we'll have. So I just
think that there's a lot of reason to have practical
hope in the way that our system is built. But
I also remember that it's not up to the government
to determine how we treat each other at the end

(01:31:09):
of the day, and what we allow ourselves to be
subject to. We carry a lot more responsibility than we
actually take responsibility for in terms of how our lives
are governed in our localities, in our states, and the
things that we can control, and also how we treat
each other. So I think that that's important to keep
in mind. And really, let's not buy into the rhetorics.

(01:31:29):
People are making a lot of money off of our
fear and our outrage economy, and I just think we
need to decide that we're not going to buy into
it anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Okay, Denise, I need a life hack. And given that
you've written the book Politics for people who hate politics,
how to engage without losing your friends or selling your soul,
this is your book. I am going to find it now.
But as a life hack and maybe a quick piece
of advice. If it's the holidays and we sit down
with the extended family and I have a relative that
just hypothetically it's, as you know, Trump's a fascists. Would

(01:32:00):
you suggest to someone where politics gets entered into the
conversation and a family gathering where you can either have
a constructive conversation or just avoid the argument that might
come from a comment like that, What should I do?

Speaker 21 (01:32:13):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's probably wisdom in not
engaging someone who wants to fight, right, Yes, but I
think that there will be a time over the course
of that holiday season where you see that person again.
And I think it's important a that we don't take offense,
don't take it personally. They're not talking about you, they're
talking about Trump, right, Let's let's depersonalize it. And then
I think it's important that we ask questions like why,

(01:32:34):
tell me why you think that. I've found that whenever
we respond instead of react to the emotions in front
of us, we end up with a much more thoughtful
conversation and you might even learn something in the process
about why they feel the way they do. So hopefully
that's helpful.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
I love that and respond instead of react. I always react.
That's my problem. I've reacted all the time.

Speaker 21 (01:32:53):
I know I feel that way too. That's why I
wrote the book as a preaching to myself.

Speaker 2 (01:32:58):
Denise gets you joining us on our new maker line.
Thank you. Denise's exhaustion from politics, I have no exhaustion. Well,
you eat this stuff up and I do too. I mean,
we're having a lot of fun this year.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
But you know, and I I don't want to miss
I don't have relatives that you're going to just go
at me like that. I'm just that really was a hypothetical.
And you know what, I don't think every relative that
I have sees the world has the same exact worldview
I do. But we just don't go there. That's fine.
We have there's so much to talk about, so much
to do, so much to so I agree.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
There are certain things that are more important in life
than politics.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
I don't even agree with that. But I don't have
to bring up the most important thing in their lives
that they don't want to talk about. I just don't
have to. I can just think it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:33:41):
Take it to myself, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
Final segment, some final thoughts on this wing Man Wednesday
and the Rodd and Greg show coming up here on
Utah's talk Radio one oh five nine k n RS.
I think the Trump campaign this may be one of
their best days yet. I think, you know, he's out
there campaign and sieged on this, taking advantage of it

(01:34:02):
with him riding in a garbage truck in Wisconsin. I mean,
and he wears his safety vest at the rally. Now,
apparently the campaign wanted him to wear this safety vest, right,
but he told the rally he was not a big
fan of this.

Speaker 1 (01:34:19):
No, he wasn't. He had to get talked into it.
But he shares at the rally the discussion he had
and why he decided to wear the vest at the rally.

Speaker 11 (01:34:28):
Here we go and they said it would be unbelievable
if you could wear it on stage, I said.

Speaker 2 (01:34:38):
And I said, no way.

Speaker 11 (01:34:41):
I got twenty five thousand people standing outside.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
I got all these people here.

Speaker 11 (01:34:45):
There's no way I'm wearing it on stage. They said,
oh okay, sir, I said, get me my jacket. But
if you did, you know it actually makes you look thinner,
I said, and they got me. I said, I want
to wear it on stage and I said, I.

Speaker 18 (01:35:06):
Said, in that case, I'll wear.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
That's just great. They convinced him, Suah makes you look thinner.
Oh okay, I'll wear this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:18):
He's you know, and the look, that's the humor, that's
the and anyone who wants to say, oh, it's dark
and he he hates everybody. I mean, it's it's hard
to sell that narrative. As you're watching these final days
of the campaign, you're seeing the momentum, You're seeing people
come around. He's joking. It's it's you know, it's it's
not holding true what the Democrats are saying about him.

(01:35:39):
And I think that that's pretty evident.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
A couple of stories we didn't mention today, Greg, but
they're very important that the Supreme Court today was reported
earlier today has been mentioned, has now allowed Virginia to
remove some sixteen hundred names of suspected non citizens from
its voter rolls ahead of next week's election. Remember, a
federal judge at a lower level issue to stay, and

(01:36:03):
now the US Supreme Court hads issued to stay against
the federal judges ruling and basically said, hey, Virginia, if
you want to take these people off the voter rolls.
You have it right too. There there. Many of them
are simply self declared non citizens. They have a punished He.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Says, are you a citizen if you check a box
that you're not, or you don't check any box that's
you're not passing muster in terms of citizenship and the
right to vote, it should have never been stopped as
it was by these federal judges. Another big win. We
kept seeing those uh, those election lines for early voting
in Pennsylvania shut down and stopping it at two thirty
when they're supposed to stay voting. They took it darns.

(01:36:38):
The Republican National Committee took it to a judge and
they said, you know what, you're right, We're going to
let early voting go on for another three days. Yeah,
because you can't win people from voting. Isn't that something
that voter suppression?

Speaker 9 (01:36:48):
Am?

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
I'm going to go back to the Virginia Kates. The
three liberal judges on the court voted against it. I mean,
why on earth would you allow a non citizen of
this country to vote in our election?

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
Yeah, And they were trying to use some like you
can't scrub list a certain amount of days before they
started this on August first. And this wasn't some specific
This was just cleaning up their general rules without regard
to anything else. This isn't this wasn't focused towards anyone
or any region or any person. This was just if
they are not saying they're a citizen, then they don't
have the legal right to vote. And so it should

(01:37:22):
have never been stopped by a judge. And the arguments
to stop it were pretty weak, and it's sad to
see that some of those justices went with that argument.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Both of us are a little skeptical about this story
coming out of Arizona tonight. Apparently there is a poll
out there. It's done by Data Orbital's poll showing Arizona
Center Republican candidate Kerry Lake pulling ahead of Democratic Representative
rumbin Diego, breaking with reacent data showing Lake trailing by
a significant margin. So when she's trailing that much but

(01:37:51):
now they're showing she's ahead, kind of raising some questions.
Does that. I mean, we'd love to see her win
impact up that seat.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
But and again this is where I think that I
keep watching those betting lines, and they don't have her
competitive in that in that state right now. I want
her to be I wanted to be. But also in
that in those lines, you're seeing that the one movement
you're seeing for Kamala is that Michigan has become very
competitive for her. She I think she's just taken the
lead in the poly markets, which she hasn't led for

(01:38:19):
quite some time, but just for Michigan. But I'm telling
you the electoral College vote the way you look at it,
with Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in his column. If that stays
true or if that becomes the case, he's got this
wrapped up.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
Yeah, well we'll see one other note. You and I
are big baseball fans, Yes, I'm huge. Right now, the
Yankees are winning. By the way, they need this. They
need to stay alive.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
Ie, so that you get don't become grumpy Gills. That's
what I need. You shuld have seen them walking out
of here last night when they were losing. They came
back to win. Think that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:38:48):
For the first time ever, Greg, the audience for the
World Series in Japan was larger than it was in
the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:38:56):
Well that's because of Tony.

Speaker 8 (01:38:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:59):
The rating for this second game of the series between
the Dodgers and the Yankees scored fifteen point nine million
viewers in Japan. Well viewership here in the US fell
to thirteen point eight So more Japanese we're watching the
World Series than America.

Speaker 1 (01:39:14):
What's his name again, Shoe Hey, O, Tommy, Oh, Tony.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
I think you've got that right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
Yeah, there's a couple of us miss messing up calling
calling him o'shante, which is actually a hip hop R
and B artist. She's not involved in baseball at all.
But so it's not a shanty as I've said.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
So yeah, there's a sixteen hour time difference. They're getting
up the next day to watch his game and they
love it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
All right, man, that does I hope we have another
day like today tomorrow. I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
That does it for us tonight, head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family, and that's a
great country of ours. Enjoy your Wednesday. We're back tomorrow
at for Have a good night.

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