The Rod and Greg Show: Predictions of Meltdowns and Revolutions Within the Democrat Party

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The election is already underway. I keep people are voting.
I mean a record number of people have already voted
by mail around the country. So the election is basically underway.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Now it is, and we are an election day, election day.
Now it's weeks long. I just saw that Pennsylvania and
UH and Michigan are both trying to call the shot
early and say we're not going to give you any
final results on the on election night, chick, which you know,
the problem that everybody has, or the or the apprehension
that we all have, is the longer votes sit uncounted,

(00:30):
the longer time goes where there's no immediacy to the
casting of votes, the more skulldugree or the potential for
skulldugrey could occur. And that's and that's what we take place.
And that's what that's what I think everyone doesn't want
to see. We don't want to see a protracted election
result experience. We want to we want to see it.
We want to see the winner loser as soon as possible.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Yeah, well it is UH, and we'll have to see
what happens. Let me tell you what, though it's Friday,
we always have a Friday favorite story and I'm so excited.
Do you know why I'm excited today? Why it's the
start of the World Series and the Yankees are in it.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
I know you love the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm an old Yankees fan and he rate's white. It
is the best two teams that money can buy. Yeah,
they spend money, but it starts tonight. Do you know
how much tickets are going for?

Speaker 3 (01:16):
You ready for this?

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Yankees are a bunch of blue bloods. I'm sure it's
a zillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
This is in LA two. Okay, okay. Resale ticket prices
for the first game on average seventeen hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, what a ripoff?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Seventeen hundred dollars on average? Is what the pace? You're right,
you're a World Series is underway. I know you're a
big baseball fan. I am he raise a big baseball fan.
You two don't care because it's the Yankees, but I
do so I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
No, but you did point out Judge versus Otaniani. Yeah,
that's that. Those are too, easily the two best power hitters,
big home run hitters in the game. So it'll be
fun to see the matchup.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
We have got a lot to get to today. We're
gonna spend quite a bit of time today examining who
Kamala Harris is. Good luck of that one. See if
we're going to find that one, right, we'll get into that.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Where the oracle coming in from the you know, the
himalay Is lives in a cave, is going to tell
us all about.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
There are stories out there about the Democrats imploding. Oh yeah, oh,
matter of fact, one headline here, Uh chaos, cursing, quitting, crying.
That's what's going on within the Kamala Harris campaign. And
you have the Washington Post coming out today and the
Post not endorsing either candidate, following what the La Times
did yesterday. And guess what, Greg, The staffs are going

(02:39):
ballistic quick with the Washington Posts.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
And it's not quiet quitting, No, No.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
They're they're they're quitting out loud. Let me tell you that.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't let the door hit you on the way out.
All you're proving is you ever you had zero interest
in two sides of any story. You're a bunch. You're
just propagandists. Get out of here. I'm very happy for
whatever the motivation is the La Times and the Washington
Post are not going to sit there and give They're
not going to endorse any candidate, and they're going to

(03:07):
at least a try to say that we're going to
let voters make their own decisions, We're going to trust them.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
What a bunch of chickens, I mean, you know, talk
about for the Washington Post to do this, it is
a profile in non courage. I mean, I take it.
Wimp out on there. You know, you know someone speculated today.
The reason why they're wimping out Bezos who Jeff Bezos,
owner of Amazon and one of the richest men in
the world, who owns the Washington Post. Also has a

(03:34):
lot of government contracts his company does and maybe just
maybe he wants to somewhat stay on the good side
of a Trump administer.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Well, why that makes all the sense in the world
is that the Washington Post is not a money maker.
That's a money that's true. That is, he sends tens
of millions of dollars every year, maybe even every quarter
to make payroll to keep the lights on. That thing
doesn't make a red scent. And if he has businesses
that have any kind of profit and there's any nexus,
why would you I mean I don't think what he's

(04:03):
doing now should spare him from whatever scrutiny all of
his other interests are doing. But anyway, I just think
that the Washington Post, those journals are lucky they even
have a job. Yeah, because they don't. There's no there's
no economy to the newspapers any long.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, And the issue is, Greg, I wonder how many
subscriptions over the years they have lost, probably since Trump
came into office, from people who just saw their anti
Trump on everything they possibly do. Is it because of
their anti Trump stand? Because like you said, times are changing.
People don't buy newspapers anymore. But I think in a way,

(04:37):
Bezo's maybe back there going I'm tired of lose money here.
I don't want to lose money now on my military contracts.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, I subscribed. I'm a new subscriber to The Post
and the New York Times because I want to see
what the enemy's saying so I can diligently report it
to you, the listeners, ladies and gentlemen. And it is
just a parody to me. It's like reading Mad magazine
in that it just has one take and it's all
anti Trump, all anti Republican. All anti conservative. There's not.
There's just their news isn't news. It's the words they use,

(05:05):
The adjectives they use are all negative towards anything that
is left or right of center.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well, well it's a joke, now, what's really telling? Though?
I think both the what was it the chief executive editor,
I think at the La Times has quit because the
La Times is not going to a new or said candidate.
You've got journalists walking out the door today at the
Washington Post because the Post isn't indorseing and candidate. Doesn't
It kind of tell you where the journalists are in
this world when it comes to their political persuasion.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, they they're selling that. But yeah, in nineteen ninety two,
I had a bumper sticker on my Suzuki Samurai that
said that's in the back that said, annoy the media,
reelect Bush. That was George Herbert Walker Bush. We were
talking about. He lost that race. But back then, I
think that the media had a difficult time hiding its bias.

(05:53):
I think they are there is no bias. There is advocacy,
and they are proud of it. They're not trying to
hide it. They are actually promoting it, and they are.
They're not only not making apologies for it, they're they're
they're absolutely proud of their partisanship.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But they're all so nervous right now because I mean
it should be. There's a great headline in the Washington Examiner,
not the post from Hugo Gurdon, who is their chief
editor there at the Washington Examiner. Is headline today is
basically it says it isn't over, so don't pretend it is.
And that's the fear I have is we're getting that
supporters of President Trump who want to see him back

(06:31):
in the White House cannot relax right now, Greg now
thinking it's over, because it is not over. It's going
to be very very tight.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
And I got to tell you, as much as I
love the reports of how strong Republicans are coming out
to early vote and how they're outpacing Democrats in states
like Nevada, other places and these these this all bodes
well for a Trump election night. The reason why you
can't put a whole lot of weight into that is
we have to assume those were people that were going
to show up on election day voting early, and Trump

(07:01):
has always had a double digit lead of those votes
on election day. So you have to take those election
day votes and put him into the early voting category,
which means, you know, he's not going to have as
strong of an election day turn now, which is fine,
which is good because if you miss it or the
line's too long, you know, you don't get you don't
miss out. But I don't think that the early voting

(07:21):
in and of itself means he's going to win. And
so there's we should not be resting on our laurels.
We should not be measuring for drapes. This thing is.
And look, they just Pennsylvania County in Pennsylvania just found
over a thousand fraudulent vote Democrat voter registration forms that
they that they just had a press conference on it today.
So there's a lot going on.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
So you're and you're saying, I think you're right, do
not assume that we're winning because the early vote numbers
are up.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
It could be just people who normally would vote on
election day. They've heard all of us get out and
vote early, and they're heeding the call and that's what
they're doing. So that's not an indication that Trump is
going to win this thing.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
And we live in you Ta, and we we we
don't think that we're not a swing state, and we're
we don't think the outcome in our state is necessarily
up for grabs. But I'm tired of this national popular
vote story that that Kama's going to win the national
popular vote and Trump could win the electoral College. Let's
all get out the vote. Let's have one hundred percent turnout.
Let's vote them in by massive, massive numbers, massive numbers,

(08:21):
so that we win the popular vote as well, so
that there's a mandate there that this rotten regime media
can't you know, try to you know, rain the paradum.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, Kamala today is in Houston. Beyonce is going to
be on stage with her tonight a concert, a big concert,
big party, even though she's not in the interesting she's
not in any of the very important swing states. I
don't get the Texas thing, But that's her call, that's
her campaign.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Yeah, maybe you're trying to help the guy run against him,
no cruise, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yeah. Well, and you've got all these Hollywood stars coming out,
many of them for Kamala Harris, but there are a
few out there for Donald Trump. Right, A new one
is Mel Gibson. Now, Mel Gibson. I love Mel Gibson.
He's had his troubles over the past, right, but I've
always enjoyed. But apparently TMZ, which by the way, maybe
one of the best news sources out there in my opinion,

(09:11):
they do a great job. Caught up with Mel Gibson.
He was in an airport walking to catch a plane.
Listen to this exchange about how Mel feels about this
presidential election.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
The president is being voted on in days.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
What's your thoughts, Oh, man, that's a big question. Well, top,
I don't think it's gonna surprise anyone who I vote for.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Well, so I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm gonna guess.

Speaker 6 (09:42):
Uh true.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Is that a bad guess? I think it's a pretty
good guest. Well, what do you think the world will
be like in a second the second term with with president?
With the president's second But I know what it'll be
like if we let her in? Yeah? Really? And that
ain't good?

Speaker 7 (10:03):
Yeah, Well, this miserable.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Track record, hauling track record, no policies to speak. Yeah,
in the border, right, and she's got the IQ of
a fence post.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
She's got the IQ of a post.

Speaker 8 (10:21):
G GI.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
He's being coy, right, we're looking about for a while.
I don't think everyone would be really surprised. He just
want to say right away. So he makes the guy guess.
So he guess is Trump. But he's like, well, you
probably guessed right. And then he goes through a polsy
she doesn't have the policies to speak. He starts to
go through some things and then he just drops a
hammer and says, she has the IQ of a fence post.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
That's the best line of the week. Beautiful. All right,
We have got a lot to get to today, so
we invite you to stay with us as you work
your way home on this Friday afternoon into a weekend.
It is the Rotten Gregg Show right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine. Can arrest or read
again some of these headlines I've seen over the last
couple of day. Democrats fear they're blowing the election? Are

(11:04):
they ever? We can only over get that feeling. Insider
says Kamala's campaign is in chaos. There's cursing, there's quitting,
there's crying. Wow, they're falling apart.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, they're snowflakes. They've never had a hard day.

Speaker 10 (11:19):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
They have the media, they have the they have, the
Hollywood they have, they have everybody that's always been on
their side, always telling them they're right. They've never had
a hard day. Now the American people are giving them
the harsh, cold reality that they're not buying what they're selling.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
You aren't right. Well, let's get more on the so
called meltdown. Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now
is Frank Beelee. He is a columnist at Real Clear Politics. Frank,
thanks for joining us this afternoon. It sounds like the
meltdown has already begun. Frank, would you agree?

Speaker 10 (11:48):
I think you might be on this out there. I
know I hit a nerve with my column two weeks
before the meltdown begins, because for the last five days
it's been the most read story for the last last
week on Real Clear Politics. So usually if I hit
number one, it evaporates after about twenty minutes. But this
one is got. This one's sticking around. It's not melting

(12:11):
off like the snowflake.

Speaker 11 (12:12):
So people love it because it's yeah, yeah, I you
know in the column I predicted it was my prediction Gal,
But I just basically said Trump will win, and he
will win convincingly. And then I didn't go into.

Speaker 10 (12:26):
A lot of depth about why I was convinced to that,
because there's so much else fun.

Speaker 12 (12:30):
Stuff to do.

Speaker 10 (12:31):
But you know the reason. The reason was not just
the polls, which you know have been trending really amazingly
toward Trump, and you know, he's if he's dead heat
even with Harris compared to the last two elections, he
was behind by six and behind by five or four
against Clinton and Biden, and the you know, if there's

(12:54):
anything like that kind of an undercount of Trump voters,
now he's got it in the bag. And I'm pretty
sure you did. But what really convinced me was when, yeah,
I've been I've become hooked on YouTube and I wrote
about this a couple of weeks ago, and just the
algorithm hitting me with a bunch of a bunch of
things I've never seen before. And one of the things

(13:15):
is that I've been watching black young black podcasts, black
men in particular, but some black women also, and I'm like,
those people are talking just like me and my neighbors,
you know, here in Montana, and they're in some big
city back east and it's resonating there and man on

(13:39):
the street interviews I've been watching. I'm like, wait a minute,
these are all people under thirty and to a man
or a woman, they're saying, Oh, I want Trump, He's
the real deal. And you know, watching that town hall
on CNN, it was so sad, how fake Tamla Harrison

(14:00):
is she She can't she cannot.

Speaker 12 (14:02):
Answer a streat question.

Speaker 10 (14:03):
I don't know whatever it is that she's afraid of.
Thank goodness, she's not going to be president because you
cannot have if she's afraid to answer, you know. Cooper
Anderson there, Anderson, Cooper, She's she's not going to do
well against putin.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
No No, And I agree with you. Does it feel
to you that this is a campaign of subtraction with
the Democrats? The Democrat big tent used to be so organized.
It used to they used to turn out the sheet music. Everybody,
every voting block used to sing the same tune. You
could have a long haul trucker and you know, vote
for the same exact candidate as the as the environmentalist

(14:40):
that wants to get do away with the combustible engine.
They were also unified. It is like I've been calling it,
the you know, the thunderdome beyond mad Max is a
thunderdome now that the big tent. And for the Democrats,
they are at each other's throats. And then you have
Rfk Junior leaving, you have Tulca Gabbard leaving, you have
Elon Musk and I don't know that they're leaving. It
just looks like this party it has gotten, it's gotten

(15:02):
its way, it's gotten the policies that they want it
and they're just ripping this country apart. And if you
dare notice or object, then they're kicking you out. They're
sending you the other way. Are you Are you seeing that?
I mean, that's what I kind of hear from some
of those YouTube videos that you're talking about. I think
there's some people that are just looking around, going, you
got to be kidding me.

Speaker 10 (15:21):
Yeah, I mean, for sure, I don't know, you know,
I don't know how you quantify it or anything, but
clearly the fact that the unions, some of the biggest unions,
have decided not to endorse the Democrat like they usually
with the fact that they've now lost the Los Angeles Times.
In the Washington Post, which have announced they're not going

(15:42):
to do endorsements, which pretty much means no freebies for Kamala,
you know, those kinds of big ones. And yeah, everybody
is like, I think I'm pretty sure it was Steve
Vannon who started this. You know, every state is a
border state. They can't they can't get away from the

(16:04):
fact that the people think their policy of allowing millions
of you know, illegal aliens with no vetting into the
country is stupid. I mean, it's just stupid, and they
thought they could get away with it. It's just amazing.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Yeah. Yeah, when you talk about the meltdown, what do
you see happening on the evening or morning of November
fifth or sixth, depending on what happens, and when we
get the countdown and I announced that Donald Trump is
going to be president of the United States again, what's
the first meltdown that will take place? Do you think, Frank.

Speaker 10 (16:40):
Well, I'm definitely worried about it. I went back and
looked at what happened after the original twenty sixteen victory,
and we don't remember it, probably, but there was violence
in there.

Speaker 12 (16:52):
There was rioting. And I heard Sean Spicer.

Speaker 10 (16:56):
This morning on the morning meeting, say that a Democrat
high place Democrat told him yesterday, we're going to burn
down the city talking about Washington, DC. And you know,
if people who are establishment people in the Democratic Party
are saying that, then the agitators and the people you

(17:20):
know who've told to put all their hopes in Kamala
Harris to prevent the Nazi Hitler takeover of the United States,
They're going to have some justification for saying, Hey, I'm angry.
I've been told that this is the end of my country,
and I'm going to go do something about it. So yeah,
it's going to be a mess.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Frank has always great article. Congratulations on it success and
your success, and we'll see what happens here and next
eleven days. Thank you, Frank, thanks for adding Greg. All right,
that is Frank Meeley joining us from Real Clear Politics.
Here's a question for you, Greg. What if on election
night there is riding in the streets, okay, as a
results started coming in. What if they're in the nation's capital. Well,

(18:03):
Kamala Harris call out the National Guard.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, I'll tell you what I was.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I was or was she let the protesters burn off
a little steam the way Tim Walls did in Minneapolis
and Saint Paul.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I've been in I've been washing d C. When this violence,
when there's been sure, there's been this violence. I was
there for the inauguration for Donald Trump in January of seventeen.
They were smashing out the commercial windows of the McDonald's.
They were they, I mean they were there was there
was outward in the broad daylight violence going on. You had,
so I think you'll see much of that. I think

(18:37):
you're going to see the boarding up of buildings in
d C like you saw in twenty twenty. They too,
they learned their lesson from what happened in sixteen. That's
going to happen. What worries me is, I've heard one
of these losers from the Lincoln Project whatever, what's it called,
the Lincoln Project whatever it is. Yeah, they're Democrats, or
that they're not. They're not Republicans in any way, although
they like to pretend they are. But one of them

(18:58):
was saying that he thinks that the Trump and MAGA
and they've tried to set up Trump's supporters and and
pull off stunts and then blame Trump's people for it
when it was and they've been caught doing that, So
why they get they get to talk on them as
summc But Guy says, the MAGA supporters are going to
come into the largest metropolitan areas in Fulton County, in Atlanta,
or any of these large voting areas and they're going

(19:19):
to burn them down so that they can't count the votes,
and they're going to try and hang on to an
electoral win from the election night till the inauguration without
being able to count the votes from those large metropolitan areas.
My only fear is that they do that to create uncertainty,
that they do that to try and then blame the
Trump people for doing it. But they would try to
do something like that out of desperation to try and

(19:42):
say that the Republicans or that the MAGA people were
trying to steal the election.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, well they will do it. I can see it coming.
All right, We've got a lot more to come right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
There's no doubt the Harris campaign is desperate. They have
tried just about everything right to do whatever they can
to shake down Trump and his supporters. The latest one,
of course, is their attempt to call him a fascist. Yes, yeah, okay,

(20:06):
a fascist. Hillary went off today on CNN about Trump
holding a big rally at Madison Square Garden and saying
that's very similar to what Hitler did.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
Yeah, and that lunatic Michael Moore, that documentary, he just
did it. He just did an essay today about that too,
comparing it to be the same.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
Ye.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, so, Mark Helprin, who's done I think, just a
lot of good work during this campaign, decided to hold
an online town hall meeting with some undecided voters in
Pennsylvania about this latest accusation that Donald Trump is a fascist.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
And as we've told you on the program, where Pennsylvania goes,
so goes this presidential race, it is down to that state.
In my opinion, I think if you look at all
these states, Pennsylvania he might not. He might win more,
but you Pennsylvania. Who whoever wins Pennsylvania will win this election.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah. Well, here's some of the from that focus group
where Mark Halpern asked him about what do you think
of Hillary or Kamala calling Donald Trump a fashion?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
To me, it's horrible that she's saying that about him,
if he was saying that about her, everybody would be
up in arms. I just don't think that's right.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
She obviously thinks it's going to help her. I don't
think it does at all. I don't know why if
it was Kelly who heard the President say that, I'm
not saying he did or he didn't.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I don't think he'd lie.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
I think you said that Mark on an episode.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
But I think that.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
He had that responsibility to resign the day that was said.
If that's true, I don't think that's the case.

Speaker 8 (21:45):
I I can't. I think part of the reason why
I'm being pushed towards Trump so strongly is that I
find that the Democrats in the left just keep going
straight to Hitler all of the time with everything, And
if it's not the left pushing Hitler, it's the right
pushing Stalones. So it's like we're fighting World War two
every single day for every single election. So it's just

(22:08):
it's so it's so exhausting. I think it just detracts
from it pushes me away from their position, and it,
you know, it's so hyperbolic that it makes it impossible
to have good discussions, and I think it ruins the discourse.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
You know, Greg, I wonder how many Americans are being
pushed away from the Democrats because of this accusation that
Donald Trump is a fascist.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now we're responsible with that with two assassination attempts and
language like this inciting that kind of violence with it
with crazed people. I thought there was a somberness that
this nation went through where this wasn't going to work
this time. We weren't going to we weren't going to
stoop to these levels all four and here we are.
But let's go to the smallest, smartest listening audience and
all the land. Let's go to you, the callers that

(22:52):
have something that you may want to say. Let's go
to Scott in provo. Scott, Welcome to the Rodd and
Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (23:00):
Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm I hope
I can explain this well enough. I just wanted to
get your opinion. I keep hearing that corporations are making
record profits and at the same time, the cost to

(23:23):
create these goods is going up, the cost to ship
them is going up, and so I'm wondering, well, what
do you guys think about is the are they saying
that the net profit is up or that because these
companies have now got such high prices to produce the

(23:48):
goods that their gross profit is there, but all of
the money is you know, their margin is still really tiny.
It's either it's either complete bs or they're just trying
to be sneaky, or is it true.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, it's a good question, my honest take. And it's
a great question. I like the way you framed it too,
because I'm seeing Walgreens that they're shutting down by the
hundreds nationally. I'm seeing a lot of certainly in the
retail where consumers and their spending habits drive the success
of companies. They are not doing well. And you can
point to all the things that Scott just just mentioned

(24:28):
in terms of the stock market and where their stock
is at that speculative market. I have no idea what
any of that means to the bottom line, but I
do not think that an economy that depends on consumers
to spend their money that you're seeing a very positive
environment for any business out there right now.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Well, Scott, and she always brings up, you know, price gouging,
and I'm going to do something about price scouging, but
she has failed to show any evidence of it. Almost anywhere, Scott,
have you seen any because I haven't. She hasn't showed
any evidence that like a grocery chain is price scouge
and raising the cost of groceries. I haven't seen it.

Speaker 13 (25:04):
I haven't seen it either. It just seems to me that,
you know, maybe maybe companies are making record profit, but
is it really profit their their their income has gone up, up, up,
but the only reason that's gone up is because their
costs have gone up.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, I'm with you, Scott. I think the costs have
gone up primarily because of energy costs.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Exactly everything we know about how you know, an economy works,
I just don't see any of that working for anyone
right now. I just think that sometimes with larger corporations,
I don't know when it happened, but I do think
that big corporations merged with big government somewhere along the line.
But I don't know that that's that's because they're profitable.
I just think I think these boards decided they had

(25:51):
to have political positions.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, all right, we'll get some more of your phone
calls coming up right here on the Rod and Greg
Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Canna let's go to Charlie and orum. Charlie, welcome to
the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Hey, guys, how you doing. We're doing well.

Speaker 14 (26:06):
I was just I was just going to point out
that the Trump campaign today released a an ad with
an Auschwitz survivor who just finished voting for Trump and
basically completely debunks this notion that Trump is Hitler and
and basically called shame on, called shame on on Kamala

(26:27):
and the Kamala campaign. And I think furthermore, I think,
you know, this is all they've got, right, I mean,
they have no they don't have policy, they don't have
it's got nothing to run on. And you know, the
darker side of me is thinking, well, you know what
I mean, if if they can have another assassination attempt,
you know, that's that's the only way they can guarantee winning.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, you know what, Charlie, thank you for bringing that up.
I heard a portion of that coming in today on
the Clay and Buck Show. It is an extraordinary Yeah.
I almost compare it to the Morning in America ad
that Reagan ran back in eighteen eighty four. It is
it is powerful, Yeah, it is very very powerful. It

(27:10):
is all right, Charlie. Maybe during the break, I'll see
if I can find it in Aria, Aushwood survivor, talking
about you want to meet the real Hitler, I'll tell
you about the real Hitler. I mean, it's a powerful,
powerful acts.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well again, I just think that after two assassination attempts
of former President Trump, everyone it seemed to be a
somber moment. Everyone wanted to stop with the hyperbole, with
the extremism of that kind of language. And now the
Democrats are owning it. And what I fear is that
it would somehow justify not wanting to accept an electoral
victory from President Trump. If it happens, they would say, well,

(27:44):
we can't let a fascist be president. We were sworn
to defend and uphold the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
How on earth is she going to certify the electric
as vice president of the United States come January sixth,
Greg when when she is calling him a fascist?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
I know it's on my mind.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
All right, We've got we've got some callers coming in.
We need to catch up on the get you caught
up on the news, and then we'll get to your
phone calls. We've got some more things to talk about
as well, including the Democratic Party meltdown? Is there a
rebellion brewing? Greg, You've talked about this. That's all coming
up our number two Brod and Greg with you on
this Friday afternoon. Thanks for joining us. Enjoy the right home.

(28:21):
We'll be back in justice. So now before the break,
if you didn't hear, we had a caller name was
Charlie called in and said, hey, have you seen or
heard this new ad from the Trump campaign. It features
a ninety four year old survivor of Auschwitz and he's

(28:42):
a Trump bowler and he's calling out Kamala Harris for
comparing Donald Trump to Hitler. It is very very powerful ad.
We'll get to that here in a minute, but we
want to bring our first guest on. You know, we've
been talking Greg for all last couple of days, if
not the last couple of weeks, about what's going on
in the Democratic Party and the fact that maybe a
starting to fall apart just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Well, I love it because you know, and this goes
back a little bit, but you had you had people
in the Pennsylvania Harris campaign to start telling on each
other into Politico. They're like telling, I'm telling on you.
You don't know Philadelphia politics. Well enough, that's why we're
gonna lose. They start blaming each other, they start already
start pointing fingers, which is never a good sign.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Well, joining us now on our newsmaker line to talk
more about this is our next guess it is Scott
pin Skur. Scott is an author, public relations and crisis
communications experts. Scott, great to have you on the show.
Appreciate your time today, Scott, Scott. I love this question
you posed in your article in PJ Media about a
pair of gigantic, enormous, bigger than ant Bertha stories are

(29:42):
flying at warp speed. What are those stories? Scott? Great line,
by the way, what are the stories that you're seeing?

Speaker 15 (29:50):
Well, my apologies to say on birth you.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Don't mean friend, She's fine.

Speaker 15 (29:57):
It's part of the larger story that we're talking about again, larger,
I apologize.

Speaker 12 (30:01):
San Bertha.

Speaker 15 (30:03):
You have the story that everybody's watching. You have the media,
you have the story, you have, you got the commercials,
you have the attacks, you have the speeches, you're following
the action, you have the polling. But you have an
undercurrent going on too. You have the human factor and
the people were working on the Kamala Harris campaign. Uh,
this is not going to be their final job. They're
looking to work again. A lot of them they're looking

(30:24):
at Kamala Harris and they're thinking, you know what, I'm
going to be as loyal to her as she was
to Joe Biden because the push comes to shove, I'm
looking out for number one over here. The two groups,
the two or the two folks in the entire world
who probably are privy to the most sensitive information about
the Democratic Party, about Kamala Harris, about what's going on

(30:44):
in the campaign, as far as polling information, as far
as turnout projections, as far as what's really actually happening.
Are the staff, the people who are are actually in
charge of that information, and the media, And when they're leaking,
that's who they're leaking too. So you have two things
going on together. You have the people from the Kamala
Harrison and from the campaign leaking to the media, and

(31:05):
you have the media who are largely cheerleading for them.
They're kind of all moving all together. And the beautiful
thing is, from a PR point, if he was at
their telegraphing everything, all I have to do is watch
the PR moves at their telephone medium how the meeting
was reporting it, and it tells you exactly what's going
on inside their campaign. And in a very short time,
they went from the campaign of joy, One Better Joy

(31:26):
to back to Donald Trump as a dictator. He's at
a hitler, He's the worst one whoever lives. And the
blowback with that Auschwitz survivors being getting his personal testimony.
I don't know how can get anything more powerful than that,
And frankly, I don't know how I could follow that
as a radium seg but that's just incredible.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
So you you bring up a couple of issues that
you think people are going to look back on. I
got to admit to our listeners. I don't know if
I've ever told anyone this, but I was saying that
they were gonna they were gonna dump Joe Biden long
before they did. I just knew that this wasn't a
cant that was going to take us to the to
the finish line. And there was a lot of disagreement
that something that radical could occur. But if they were

(32:04):
going to go to that far, I also believed that
they would pick Michelle Obama because that would be the
strongest candidate that didn't have any attachment to this current
administration and the carnage it's created. So I did a
little bit of an emotional hedge bet and I bet
that Michelle Obama would be the Democrat nominee. It was
giving me good odds. When they didn't pick Michelle Obama,

(32:25):
then what was the point? And I think that's what
you're getting to in this article. And if they're if
you're going to have a running mate, why would you
never Why wouldn't you pick Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania when
it looks like it's all coming down to Pennsylvania. How
did it? How was it not Michelle Obama? And how
did they not pick Governor of Pennsylvania Josh Shapiro? And
why is it Kamala Harris? Are these the questions that

(32:46):
they're already asking? Do you think.

Speaker 15 (32:49):
There's could be plenty of people going through the course
of digging through the dead bodies to figure out wrong
but we already know the answer to a lot of them.
Josh Shapiro had a lot of really wonderful things going
for he could speak well, the looking guy young, he's
from a critical state, but he had that one liability.

(33:11):
He's the guy that Adam Sandler saying about. And unfortunately
that that meant that that would antagonize the a tiring
of the of the liberal movement. You maybe two thirds
of the Democratic Party is pro Israel, one third of
it is deminitely highly anti Israel, to the point that
they're pro Hamas, and that that demographic veer is young,

(33:32):
and these are the people that they need for turnout
and for excitement. And I think the air campaign were
just too afraid of splintering that group, and they figured
to be too dangerous. We can't get with superior, even
though it might be electorally helpful in one state, but
it could cut the throat of our entire liberal movement
across the country.

Speaker 12 (33:48):
Uh.

Speaker 15 (33:48):
For for Michelle Obama, I don't think she wanted the job.
Everyone wants to put the work in. It's it's a
tough gig. And if you can, you know, go from
Hollywood event and live the life of a millionaire, be
Michelle Obama. That's not a bad deal. For Kamala Harris.
It's the Democrats. They put himself in a really strange
situation because it was only gosh, thirty years ago you

(34:10):
had Bill Clinton as the nominee. And for Bill Clinton,
you could be a right winger, you could be a
left winger. You would love Like I wrote in one
of the PGA media columns that I met Bill and
Hillary Clinton, and Hillary was cold and distant and just
immediately it kind of gave you the chills. Bill Clinton
came and laid and walked into a room full of conservatives.

(34:31):
He looked everyone in the eyes, shook everyone's hands, and
you walked out loving that guy. You love to go
on up a fear for him. I mean, he loves people,
maybe too much, but he clearly loves people. Kamala Harrison,
I don't get that vibe Hillary Clinton. I don't get
that vibe. Joe Biden's barely even aware of people. The
Democratic Party has gone from being you know, Bill Clinton

(34:52):
was the quintessential Green candidate. He was from the South
Middle ead Jefferson. He proved that he could win. But
then with attributes aren't what the Democratic Party is looking for.
They're looking for your demographic makeup. And Tamala Harris fits
that Bill.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
She had the right.

Speaker 15 (35:09):
Gender from an ethnic point of view, she was the
dream demographic candidate, and that trumps actually being a good politician.
And what we're seeing right now on the campaign trail.
You need to know what you're doing. And she is
not a good politician. She's no Bill Clinton.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, she sure isn't. Scott. Any guess as to how
many resume aids are quietly seeping out of the Harris
campaign from staffords who are looking for their next job.
Any guess if that's already started.

Speaker 15 (35:37):
Oh, if you think it's bad now, you just wait
a little bit. Like this is just the beginning of it.
I mean, when like nobody panics like a Democrat and
when you know, we talk about the rats leaving the ship,
Holy moly, you know the slightest I mean, if you
look at the polling when Biden, when they forced Biden out,
when they pulled the Biden too, it really wasn't like

(35:57):
he was being crushed by five points, ten points eight.
It was like a one or two point rapes. The
Democratic Party, they panic easily. That's just part of what
they are. It's the core characteristic of them.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Scott, great, great, call them great. Great few minutes with us,
Thank you very much, enjoyed the weekend, Scott.

Speaker 15 (36:14):
Hey, my pleasure, gentlemen. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Thank you all right. Scott Pinskerk with PG Media. I
love that line. No one panics like a Democrat.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Yeah, and you know what they ought to because their
reaction to anything that doesn't go as planned is to attack,
attack anyone and everyone. If it's the Post. You should
see the things online they're saying about the Washington Post
right now. They're now the sworn enemy of this left
because they won't endorse a Kamala. They just only know
one way. If you ever veer from their dogma, you

(36:42):
become public enemy number one.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Do you think in any way, Greg, that the Democrats
are starting to realize the American people are not buying
this fascist attack? I mean, are they just? Is that
all they've got left and all they're going to pound
on now for the next eleven days.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
Rod. The big problem they have is they're not buying
the fascist attack. But they're not buying a single thing
they're doing. They're not buying their their criminal justice reform.
They're you know, catch and release that Soros got all
of his all of his you know DA's, and the
county attorneys elected who caught people that were criminals let
them go without penalty let people shoplift. The carnage and

(37:18):
the lack of public safety is not going their way.
They're getting every single policy they ever dreamt of, an
open border, let everybody come in, a new voting block
that will elect Democrats for the next hundred years. It
is all working against them because it is working against
the American people. So then they just point, do you
remember Donald Trump, He's still a bad guy, right, well,
not as bad as what's going on right now. They
have nowhere to go.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, well, those policies do point. It all coming back
to buy them in the butt.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
They really are, because they're not a theory anymore. They're
actually they actually got to implement them, and now we're
living through the carnage of the consequences of their policy.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
What Scott said was very interesting, and you've seen this
as well, Greg what he said about Bill Clinton. I
remember talking with someone who was in you know, one
of these big halls or whatever you want to call it,
and he was coming here to speak, and she told
me the moment Bill Clinton walked into the room, all
eyes went to Bill Clinton. He was charismatic, The audience

(38:13):
fell in love with his guy. He had that ability,
and I think it's important that Scott points out his
wife certainly does not have that ability, and neither does
Kamala Harris. Donald Trump, I think does.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
And the thing about Bill Clinton, also in hindsight I
didn't realize it in real time, is he wasn't necessarily
dogmatic in terms of he had a he had a
liberal bent that could not be interrupted. Remember after they
lost Congress, Democrats lost control in ninety four, he got
up in the next day of the Union said the
era of big government is over over. He actually balanced
the budget on his watch, and so he could pivot

(38:46):
to where he because he does love people, he does
try to stay in touch. He did move where the
average American was, or he tried to, and at least
in hindsight, far more than you're seeing from Democrats today
or since him.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, that's for sure. All Right, We've got a lot
to get to. We'll play the audio from that new ad,
the new ad for Donald Trump that everybody is talking about.
We'll play that coming up. Plus we'll get to your
phone calls on this. Thank Rod and Greg. It's Friday
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can
arrest if you want to join in on our conversation
eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero

(39:19):
triple eight five seven zero eight zero one zero, or
on your cell phone. All you do is have dial
pound two fifty and simply say hey, run.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
Look I am fighting. I'm enthusiastic. I see it moving
our way. I see a campaign of subtraction, which is
the Kamala Harris campaign. I'm seeing a campaign of addition
where I'm seeing more people coming to Donald Trump's campaign
and supporting him than I've ever seen in terms of
demographics of voting blocks, different everyday Americans, different types of people.

(39:49):
But I gotta keep on guard here. I got them
because I'm telling you they're not going down without a fight,
and there's no rules that they'll keep. You know, A
fair fight is the fight, and as their concern is
the fight they win. Yeah, that's a fair fight.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Is when they win, and there they will stoop as
low as they need to get to this race. I mean,
we've learned that from the Democrats for a long long time.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I think I'm trying to guard over being too excited
about what I'm seeing, But it's pretty hard to deny
the momentum.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
You know, we had a call before the break if
you weren't listening before the top of the hour from
a listener who had heard on claim, but show this
new Donald Trump had It is a ninety four year
old Auschwitz Camp Holocaust survivor, a Trump supporter calling out
Kamala Harris for comparing Trump to Hitler. List of this.
This is a very powerful message.

Speaker 16 (40:43):
My name is Jerry Wartz. I'm ninety four years old
and survivor of our Schwetz and the dead marches. Adolf
Hitler invaded Poland when I was nine years old. He
murdered my parents and most of our family. I know

(41:04):
more about Hitler than Kamala know in a thousand lifetimes.
For her to accuse President Trump of being like Hitler
is the worst thing I ever heard in my seventy
five years years living in the United States. I know

(41:24):
President Trump and he would never say this. And Kamala
Harris knows that she owns my parents and everybody else
was murdered by Hitler. An apology for repeating this lie.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Why did she wish keep those for president?

Speaker 16 (41:43):
Because he's a mench. I believe that President Trump is
definitely gonna be good for Israel because in everything that
is to go down up to now was in favor.
He never double cross anyone have showed any weakness. Watching
President Trump party for the hostages at the Ohio and

(42:07):
getting spend time with him so manyningful. He has always
sits with the Jewish people and the state of his.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
And they add just fades to a Trump vance twenty
twenty four sign greg a graphic very powerful statement.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
The color wasn't wrong. I had not seen that Orford
until we played him before you during a commercial break,
and that is I mean, that's powerful, and that's substance.
That's real. Talk about someone who would know and in
a very song again another somber way of seeing who
is as a candidate of substance and who's making terrible
throwing around accusations and terms that are just beyond the pale.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Yeah, and what you don't see and you can't hear
it or see it on the radio. But he rolls
up his sleeve and he shows the number tattoo. Yeah
that you know Jews were given in the countration camps.
And he shows that tattoo and he talks about nine
years old. Hitler invades Poland kills his family many members
of his family. Now you have a candidate here in

(43:11):
the United States calling another candidate Hitler, yeah, a fascist,
whereas this man ninety four years old today, he knows
what a fascist or a Hitler looks like. And people
like that killed his parents and his family. So that's
a powerful ad in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
And they've overused it. They have described everyone this way
in the most reckless and irresponsible way to do it.
They everyone, every Republican you can think of, has been
a subject of this this attack in this name. Yeah,
going back for how.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Long, Well you can go back to Harry Truman days.
Harry Truman called Thomas Dewey Hitler. There you go, and
that was that was only a couple of years after
the end of World War Two.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, it's just it's you know, I've seen when when
Republicans have thrown that that you know, Hitler around or
Nazi's around, I've seen a lot of recoil in saying
you are disrespecting what really happened there by even using
that term. Democrats don't get held to that same standard,
And I'm going to tell you I don't. We as
Americans have never seen a president shot where he's been

(44:12):
hit and see him stand up in the moment, unscriptled
on his face and look to the people and say
we're gonna fight, We're going to and and just rally
and try to rally people to not be upset. You
don't see that, and that is that is a such
an inc a sincere moment and a real moment. And
to think that people are going to use language that

(44:33):
would incite people that are crazy and we know we
have enough crazies around here to commit violence like that,
and they would still be that irresponsible today. I mean,
it is it's a it's a sign of a desperate campaign,
but it's a sign of a lot worse than that.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Yeah, runs deeper than just asperation more. All right, let's
get to your phone calls eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zero triple eight five seven eight
zero one zero eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial pound
two to fifty and say hey, Rod, we're what eleven days,
ten days from election day, even though elections already underway.

(45:07):
Your gut feeling, what are you thinking about? What are
you feeling right now? As we get closer and closer
to November fifth. That's coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show. By the way, if you didn't catch Abby's
newscast a moment ago, Israel has now launched retaliatory strikes
against Iran. It said it is conducting precise strikes military
targets in Iran, and we'll keep you up to date

(45:28):
on that. Of course, right now we're talking about the election.
That's just about what everybody is talking about these days.
The vote coming up on Tuesday, November fifth. But a
lot of people have already voted. I have not early voted.
I've never done it, and you know, I'm tempted to
do it now, Greg, but I think I'll wait until
election day.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Just look, I'm a creature of habit, and I like
the sticker. I like to go. I don't just drop
off my mail in ballot in personal.

Speaker 7 (45:53):
I go in.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
I go to the machine, and I think the election
judges and the people that are there that are stitting
there all day. I think for being there there some
oftentimes there are people that I know from our community,
and I me too get to see them. So I
like doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Let's go to the phone.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Let's go to the phones and talk to Steve who's
been patiently on hold from Layton. Steve, thank you for holding,
Thank you for calling to Ronnie Gregg show.

Speaker 7 (46:16):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Hey, I've got a
question that nobody's asked Lala, and if they do, she
can't answer it, and she won't answer it.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Okay, what is that question?

Speaker 7 (46:29):
Will you give will you give back your presidential salary?

Speaker 1 (46:37):
I don't think i've heard that question she gives it back.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
If she gives it back once, she's gonna look like, well,
she's one of these rich people that should say more taxes.
And if she keeps it, thence she's going to look
like the money hungry and not look too well to
the middle class, and middle class status goes out the window.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
I like, I'm picking up what you're putting down, Steve.
I totally agree with you. I wouldn't do it, and
there's no way under the sun there's no one that
will do that.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Did did Trump ever take his presidential salary?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
He never took it. Heah something, but he didn't take it.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
And then didn't he donate it? Like I remember one
time he gave it to was it the National Park Service? Yeah?
Different organization.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I think JFK did that too, and yeah, but wouldn't
do it for anything. She actually needs it, so you
know she's never she would never do it if she
got that salary. And in this sad part is you
know Trump gets zero credit or anyone ever a zero
acknowledgment that he made that decision in the past and

(47:38):
would probably make it this time, gets zero acknowledgment for it.
And uh and she will get zero, uh, you know,
criticism for not It won't matter. It will just not matter.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
A couple of comments. We want you to hear some
audio sound bites Charlemagne to God who apparently I've never
listened to this show, Greg, is it on a rate?
It's called The Breakfast Club, But it's it a podcast
or a radio show.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I think it's a I think it's a syndicated radio show.
What it is is the radio show. But then they
have the cameras on and it's psycho part the radio podcast.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Well, he waighed in today on what he thinks of
Donald Trump. Here's what he said.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
It's either Donald Trump in there stealing, stealing over his
enemies list, or.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Me working for you checking off my to do list.

Speaker 17 (48:31):
I said that, I said that so long ago. Donald
Trump will be in there looking for revenge. Not only that,
he's gonna be in there, you know, pardoning itself, trying
to get out of all his legal trouble. But once
he does that, he's definitely I'm sure, Oh my god,
there's nothing that he can't do.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
The law is some magical stuff when you ain't black.

Speaker 17 (48:48):
No, no, I'm telling Donald Donald Trump different. Like Donald
Trump has even defied the laws of white privilege. I've
never seen anything like like Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
White. He out white man is the biggest white man.
I'm not even joking.

Speaker 17 (49:01):
He's the greatest white man that ever lived. He is
the Frankenstein lost of white supremacy. I've never seen anything
like that. Great follow because you know, they grabbed that.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
I about it at this point. White man the greatest
white man.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yeah, you know that's that's that's a backhanded compliment from
Charlemagne to God. But no, he's but you know what,
he's been unjustly attacked. And I think a lot of
people and think they see it and they can smell
it for what it is, and it actually has you know,
this is what's amazing about Trump arrangement syndrome. So many
of the people that have gone after him like this

(49:37):
thinking that they could keep him off the ballot. Remember
there were lawsuits from states trying to prevent him his
name from appearing on the ballot. And just the most
you know, because they're they're defending democracy, they have actually
helped him. I mean, you couldn't be helped more than
to have, first off, no primary on their side. Push
Biden until you can't anymore. Then without any kind of primary,

(50:00):
put in Kamalo. That's doesn't work. We've we've looked at that.
But then the way they've they've used this lawfair and
they've attacked him, it doesn't pass the smell test. It's
why you don't hear them call him. They had planned
to call him a felon. They were gonna call him
a fellon every time. Remember that that was going to
be the big play. As a matter of fact, I
saw this. I came across this audio. There was a
montage that we had aired months ago, Greg and it

(50:23):
was every Democrat out there saying, convicted felon, convicted felon.
And that was the theory that she was even going
to use the debate with him. I don't think she
ever did, But all of a sudden that's disappeared. And
now what the term is fascist? Yeah, and the reason
that the felon didn't work is because everyone knows it
stinks to high heaven. And what Trump is said, and

(50:43):
he's one hundred percent right, is if they'll do this
to me, they'll do it to you.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
And that's what he says all the time.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
And it's not wrong. I mean when they took him
off of Twitter, when they banned him from any social
media presence at all in the world, then you saw
your we saw ourselves band or shadow band from these companies,
and they would go without pause. If you were right
of center, you would be a domestic terrorist, like just
like they put when he was when Biden's running and
they put those memos out. Three over three hundred churches,

(51:10):
UH Catholic churches were vandalized, destroyed after the dowed of
the Supreme Court leak and then decision came out. They've
done nothing to investigate any of those. If you're a
pro life protester and they there's a they'll charge you
like that. Gentlemen, we talked about yesterday.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Shall we have a moment of sympathy for Anderson couver No, no,
but I would love to.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
I would love to play him lamenting about you know,
he was trying this whole journalism thing out the other
day at the at the town hall, and I've had
a good answer from a listener that said, you know,
they're just trying to cover their bases because they think
Trump's gonna win. But he got some grief caring to
ask a question in a town Hall's.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
What he had to say. He appeared on one of
the CNN shows and he talked about the response he
has gotten for the questions that they asked during that
town hall meeting.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
You know what, I got so many.

Speaker 18 (52:05):
I don't look at comments about myself, but I was
looking up some comments about my grief podcasts and I
came across this whole inundation from people who are Harror
supporters saying to me online today like how dare you
what a betrayal that you would ask her these questions?
And I'm like, you misunderstand what my job is. I'm
not on MSNBC or no disrespect they what they do

(52:27):
is they're very talented, but it's I don't watch it.
I'm not interested in watching what these overpaid blow dried
anchors think, and I include myself in that overpaid blow dried.
Although I don't blow dry. I am overpaid, but I
don't want that. I'm not interested in the anchor's opinion.
I'm interested in facts and letting the viewers make up
their own mind.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
So shall we have a collective? Ah, poor little Anderson
Cooper makes fifteen million dollars by.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
The way a year. Yeah, he makes that.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Is his family with one of the hotel chains or something.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
No, it's Gloria Vanderbilt, isn't La Vanderbilt. He's an heir
to that fortune.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
So he's got a lot of money and he's doing okay, yeah,
fifteen million. But he doesn't blow dry the hair.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
He doesn't blow dry the hair. Well, there you go.
But no, you know what, though, I just for whatever
it's worth. I think it's amazing that they're actually they
are asking her questions. I just wouldn't expect it.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Yeah, pretty amazing. All right, mare coming up, Ron and
Greg with you here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine, k n R asked citizen Hughes. Yes, Sir
got an email into the show a short time ago,
and it comes from Carl Okay Okay email into the show.
He said, I have a question for citizen, Greg Hughes.

(53:39):
Why do you call yourself a citizen? Do you know
the legal meaning of that word?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Just wondering, Well, I think we looked it U Yeah,
we looked it up. But I think it's a member
of a government or a community that can be a
government or whatever it is. And so in the case
of the United States, that could be a citizen of
the United States. I'm a citizen of utahm a citizen
of Salt Lake County, and I'm a citizen of Draper City, right,

(54:06):
But why I use the term citizen, Hughes? Is it
for a long time in the role of government and
the role of constituencies or citizens. I was a government,
a public servant. I'm an I say I'm a I'm
a I'm a recovering public servant right now. But I
am enjoying my post public service role as in every
day Joe, as an everyday citizen. So I don't I'm

(54:28):
not representative, Hughes, I'm not speaker, Hughes. I'm just citizen Hughes.
I'm just I'm just an everyday guy. And uh, with
an opinion, and that you that you have been gracious
enough to allow me to be a particiation in this program.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
So you aren't called. Even though I hear people you
go up to the Capitol, they always go your speaker,
Well with you is all you know, Jah, What can
we do for you? Speaker?

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Listen, that's that's what you're exaggerating, and you're minding me.
But listen, when I went to that speaker's dinner when
I missed the show the other night Wednesday, thanks for
leaving one of those great sergeant of arms at the house,
he said, Susan Hughes. And it was music to my ears.
And he loves the show. And that's and that's what
I am, and that's what I That's why I think.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
All right, let's get in the call. Let's go to
Aaron and Smithfield tonight. Here on think Rod and Greg
gives Friday hi.

Speaker 19 (55:16):
Eron how are you good, evening, gentlemen. First of all,
Steeler fan nineteen seventy three miach Aris drafted from Penn
State University.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yes, he was Steelers.

Speaker 19 (55:28):
I want to I want to go back to Monday
when Rod had to put the leash on you.

Speaker 15 (55:33):
Greg Hi.

Speaker 19 (55:37):
I am very much supportive of what you were saying.
And the first thing that offended me is, oh, well
you can't separate the families. Well, I want to ask
Lake and Riley's parents how family separation is going with
some good point and this point about, well, we can't
exist without one third of our construction industry being illegal.

(56:00):
Been in the construction industry for thirty five years now,
I've been out here in Utah for going on nine years.
And let me a few things that I never hear about.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Aaron real quick. We're Aaron real quick. We're up against
the hit time. You got about ten seconds.

Speaker 19 (56:16):
All right, Well, if you're on a job site and
you get hurt by an iligo alien, you will not
be covered by workings compensation or you're stuck on your own.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yeah, he's exactly right on.

Speaker 1 (56:27):
That, know that. Wow? Really? So if you're on the
job site, you're working alongside, you know, someone here illegally,
you're injured by something they do, insurance does the government?

Speaker 8 (56:36):
Now?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Not only that, the OSHA will probably shut down your
site too because.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
You're hiring you're you're hiring illegal people. I did not
know that.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Well, so yeah, there's there's consequences beyond and and and
so yeah, Aaron caught my tone.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
They had that. Yeah, all right, and we come back.
Do Democrats have buyer's remorse over Kamlough? We'll dig into
that hour number three of The Greg Show and Donnin's
ways stay with us.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I'm rod Arkatt, I'm citizen Greg Hughes. All right, we've
been talking a lot about what's going on with this election.
We're down, you know, I want to say we're down
to the eleven days, but you know, voting has already
begun around the country. There's a record number of people
who've done early voting, and you know, so it's kind
of like, I guess, what do you call it? Election
seats and election weeks? What do you call it? Anymore?

Speaker 2 (57:22):
It's very now that you have early voting. Your election
day is literally the two weeks before, two weeks plus
when they mail it out, and then a lot of
states you got to wait for it to come in.
It turns into four or five weeks of an election
day that used to be one. But we're in the
heart of it. We're absolutely in the heart of it
right now. People's votes have been cast, people are counting
you know, we've we've talked about on the show, but

(57:42):
early voting, I mean Republicans were finally getting more involved
in that. Democrats used to rule the roost when it
came to that.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
So well, earlier today Greg on a CNN panel, it,
I mean it completely lost it. Do you know who
Kevin O'Leary is. He's with Shark Tank. Yes, you know
who I'm talking about. Well, he pointed out that Kamala
Harris was not democratically nominated. Oh I tell you what.
The Pro Democracy Party really hated it.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Democracy took exception to her undemocratic nomination.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Well, apparently Kevin O'Leary is not the only one raising
questions about this. Joining us on our Newsmaker line to
talk more about that right now is Terry Jones, Editor
of Issues and Insight. Terry, always great to have you
on the show. Now you've done a poll and it
shows there are some Democrats out there showing signs of
buyer's remorse. Is that right, Terry?

Speaker 20 (58:32):
We're sort of surprised. We actually asked these questions once before,
right after everything happened last summer, and we were kind
of surprised at how large the Democratic response was in
their disgust and we thought, well, okay, let's ask again.
Maybe things have cooled off or maybe we had a
bad sample, but no, it was actually slightly higher this

(58:56):
time around.

Speaker 12 (58:58):
And the.

Speaker 20 (59:00):
Based Democrats, the people who will be going out to vote,
are very unhappy with what the Democratic Party did last
summer because they felt it didn't come up with the
strongest candidate in Kamala Harris. And uh, you know, a
shocking amount of Democrats felt this. I mean it was

(59:24):
forty percent. So uh, you know, there there's a lot
of unhappiness out there in Democrat land and and they're
just not uh, they're not satisfied with the way Kamala
Harris's campaign has developed. They're not satisfied, satisfied with the
democratic process as it as it is defined by the

(59:44):
Democratic Party. And they're not they're not happy that the
parties seem to lie about Biden's health issues, in particular
his mental health issues as as he's.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
You know, we've seen in research, so I find this
is the irony when when the when the switcheroo occurred,
it was a party of joy, it was a vibe,
it was good vibes, it was a billion dollars raised
and money, and everyone seemed to be so giddy that
they weren't stuck with Biden because he seemed like he
was down in the polls and was going down with

(01:00:19):
the ship, and so everything they did was about joy
and embracing the change. But so my question is, did
it always sit wrong with with the base of the
Democrat Party and and and voters, or did it get
this to this place because they're going, wow, but Biden
couldn't do worse than what's going on right now? Was
this with this evolver? Was this an immediate recoil?

Speaker 20 (01:00:40):
I think it's I think it was an immediate recoil,
mainly in shock at the fact that the Democrats so
ineptly and so publicly defenestrated Joe Biden and really sort
of disempowered him in a sense. I mean, he just
wanders around the White House and his beach home in

(01:01:02):
Rijovas like some kind of ghost these days. But he
doesn't seem to really be doing much. And I you know,
they've made Kamala Harris the de facto head of the
party right now, and I think people feel a little
bit robbed by that, largely because you know, whether they
liked Joe Biden or not. He did get fifteen million

(01:01:25):
votes during the primaries, and Kamala Harris got nothing because
she didn't run and she wasn't up and when she
ran for president last time, she you know, basically had
to quit before the primary season really began because she
didn't get enough support and couldn't sustain a campaign. So

(01:01:46):
I think a lot of people are looking at her
as a very weak candidate, and her you know, speeches
and comments on the hustings and on the various TV
shows she's been on seemed to indicate she's non responsive
when you ask about specific policies, how do you feel

(01:02:07):
about this the border or whatever? Ye dances around the issue,
and so nobody knows what she's going to do. She's
flip flopped on all sorts of things. Nobody knows what
she's going to do when she gets in there, and
I think they're feeling very, very uncomfortable.

Speaker 10 (01:02:22):
Terry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Let me ask you, as you point out in your
survey that a solid one third of the Democrats are
angry over what happened here. The question is are they
still going to vote for anyway or are they going
to stay home? Any indication where that may go.

Speaker 20 (01:02:35):
Yeah, well, it's not at all clear that that's what's
going to happen. But my guess is it will. My
guess is there at the margin there will be a
disappointed group of people within the Democratic Party who will
either not vote for the anointed candidate or will vote

(01:02:59):
for the opposition of Donald Trump. And largely because you know,
it's the old it's the old question, you know, you know,
do you feel better about yourself? And are you better
off than you were four years ago? And I think
any honest person is going to say no. And you know,

(01:03:20):
and that comes up in the in the polling, you know,
every there's several polls that ask you know, whether it's
the direction of the country, and those thing it's on
the wrong track. It's it's a minus thirty seven point one.
I mean, that's just off the charts. It's ridiculously low.
It suggests that people are profoundly disappointed right now and

(01:03:42):
and dispirited. Even so, I can't imagine that there's going
to be a massive wave of voting by Democrats. I
could be wrong. I've been wrong in the past before,
but I can't imagine there's going to be a record
turnout or anything like that among Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
Dead people voting yeah, yeah, and she gets quite the
Democrats get quite the dead person voting block. It's an
amazing one. Let me ask you this related to this
the questions you'd surveyed on, but what we're seeing, it
feels like the Trump campaign uniquely this time around, feels
like a campaign of addition. It really feels like a
campaign of subtraction on the Democrats side. And by that
I mean Rfk Junior wanted to be a Democrat candidate

(01:04:23):
in a primary. They forced him out. He's now endorsed
and is working to help get Donald Trump elected. Telsea
Gabbard was a candidate in twenty has received saying kind
of the rebuffment, refuffing and kind of kicked out of
the party, so to speak. With the Democrats, She's endorsing
Trump and is working to help him get elected. Elon
Musk was a voter. He voted for Biden, and he

(01:04:44):
was considered himself a Democrat or at least a left
of center, and he's now now supporting Trump. You have
the minority vote that's stronger for Trump this time than
it was in the past. Union members men on thirty
years of age and younger. Is this Democrat already disintegrating
for the reasons that you've stated but others? Is it?
Is it just coming apart in front of our eyes?

Speaker 20 (01:05:06):
I really think it is. It's it's certainly fragmenting, and
even key parts of the of the electorate, the Democratic electorate,
are are starting to separate. I mean, it used to
be people could look at Hispanic voters or an ever
larger part of our voting block total vote, and African

(01:05:29):
American voters and they're pretty much the same on a
lot of these questions. But when we look at the
data in our questions among the Democrats about how they
feel about the Democratic Party, the numbers that come out
the Hispanics are basically right in line with Republicans.

Speaker 1 (01:05:46):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (01:05:47):
And it's it's pretty shocking because it's the big it's
really the biggest gap in any two related demographic groups
in all of our polling, and we have thirty six
different demographic groups, so there are there are very large
pockets of people who seem to be very, very disappointed

(01:06:10):
with what's gone on in the Democratic Party over the
last four months.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
Terry Jones, Terry is the editor of Issues and Insights,
talking about the buyers remorse that some Democrats are having
Greg and I think they probably are.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
You know nothing, as we've been saying throughout the show,
we don't take it, we don't take the foot off
the gas. But it's I think we see what we see.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
I think it's happening, all right, Moore coming up. It
is the Friday addition of the Roden Gregg Show right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arrest.
We want to continue our examination of the Democratic presidential nominee.
She has such an easy target. She's just so easy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Better than the jelly of the month glove. She's the gift.
It just keeps on.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Keeps on gifting. You know, It's almost feels like sometimes Greg,
she's playing the part in a movie, because she never
comes across to me as being very serious, does she
to you?

Speaker 21 (01:07:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
And I think back, I can just go back to
the original. Okay, I miss mad and vice president. Okay,
we know you can't talk to anybody, but we don't
have to. We're doing so well. And then fast forward
to now looks like you're gonna have to talk. Yeah,
And it's just not working out. The original plan was
probably the best one, except no one was buying it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
No one was buying it.

Speaker 9 (01:07:17):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Joining us now on our news talk line to talk
more about this is Frances Minton. Francis is a blogger
of the Manhattan Controy in France. Is always great to
have you on the show. You call her the most
unserious presidential candidate of all time. Francis, why are you
saying that?

Speaker 12 (01:07:34):
Well, I put a question mark on it was I
was just trying to answer the question. But I was
trying to come up with with any ideas of a
prior candidate who you could even put in that category, right,
all the all the prior candidates tried to be serious.
They tried to pretend to have ideas, I think, and

(01:07:58):
yet you can't find any of that from common Mala Harris.
It's just as thin as Gossimer.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
As Gossimer, Francis, I mean, let me tell you, let
me ask you. I'm curious if you think so. I
think that they didn't believe that she would improve her
prospects by speaking frequently, whether it's a town hall, whether
it's an interviews. I think they thought that she could
kind of follow the Biden model not say a whole

(01:08:23):
lot and just really make this a referendum or a
vote against Donald Trump. So when they realized they weren't
winning and this wasn't carrying the day, I think then
they said, well, I think you're going to have to
have an opinion about something, and then it's just it's
it's never worked well. So I guess my question is
do you think that it was her and that she
thought when she got into this race she was never

(01:08:44):
going to have to have a specific vision or any
kind of specificity of what she would do as president.
And that's why she doesn't because she didn't think she'd
have to.

Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
I mean, even that is putting a lot on her,
Like do you think she really thought about that question?
I find it hard to imagine her thinking about any
serious question. Yeah. I think she definitely figured that she
could follow the Biden campaign strategy not say anything, not

(01:09:14):
answer any questions, not give any interviews, not give any
press conferences, sit on the sidelines. It worked for Joe,
and why wouldn't it work for me? And we'll have
my surrogates go out and attack Trump. And I think
the biggest problem that they have is that is that
all the attacks on Trump, they're so exhausted, they don't

(01:09:35):
they just don't have anything left. There's no new ideas.
Where's the new Russia collusion Oaks? I mean that was
a clever idea, right, that took some that took some devious,
mischievous thinking to come up with that one. Now they've
got nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Yeah. For instance, she said today she actually took a
few questions from reporters today and here we go with
that question again about where are your policies? What are
your stands? And she instantly refers to her website and sayds,
just go to my website. There are eighty pages there
of where I stand on all kinds of issues. By
the reading your article, you actually did go to the
website a little bit. What did you find, Francis.

Speaker 12 (01:10:18):
I went to the website more than a little. I
spent some serious time with there. Now you know that
website was only put up a few weeks ago, the
part of it that supposedly has policy things. I saw
somebody who asked a question to an AI thing of

(01:10:39):
whether these things in Hamilt and Harris's website were written
by AI, and they said they were. They certainly read
like they are. Now you know, I didn't. I don't
know about eighty pages, but there's probably eighty issues, each
of which get all of one paragraph. But if you

(01:10:59):
look at the paragraph, it's a series of platitudes without
anything specific one way or the other. And for this
article I wrote, I went to a couple of issues
that I actually specialize in that I write about that
I know a lot about, because I don't claim to
know a lot about everything. And those two issues are

(01:11:20):
climate energy policy and immigration policy. And I actually put
in my article a quote of the whole paragraph. Both
of them are about one hundred or one hundred and
twenty words, maybe one hundred and fifty words, consisting of
say five or six sentences of one platitude after another.

(01:11:46):
This historic work is lowering household energy costs, creating hundreds
of thousands of high quality energy jobs, building a thriving
clean energy economy, all while ensuring America's energy security and
independence with record energy production. Okay, what policy, But are
you are you in favor of suppressing fossil fuels? About?

(01:12:10):
How about the how about the electric car ban which
just became a regulation under Biden and Harris about four
or five months ago, and is a current regulation just
out just issued. It doesn't really cut for a few years,
so it's really twenty thirty or twenty after that you

(01:12:33):
won't be able to buy a non electric car anymore.
But this is a regulation they just enacted. Is she
in favor of it or not? Doesn't say and anything else.
How about the new regulation they just came out with
requiring the closure of all fossil fuel power plants, that's
just about four or five months ago too. They don't
say anything about it in this and on and on

(01:12:55):
and on.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Francis, I've got something that she's done, something that she's
made decision on and it has impact, and I don't
want to know if you think it's serious or not.
The one thing you can say that she's done is
she's chosen a running mate. Tim Walls, Is this a
serious running mate? I haven't even seen him. I think
there's milk cartons with his face on it right now.

(01:13:17):
I haven't seen him for about it at least a
week of news cycles. But we have a Governor Shapiro
in Pennsylvania, Vella, a lot of people she could have chosen.
Tim Walls, is this a serious running mate? This is
a decision she made. So this kind of looks, this
kind of shows us you know, her processes.

Speaker 12 (01:13:34):
Yes, I don't know. If you're familiar with the power
Line blog, you probably are. You probably have those guys
on your show all the time. So John Hinderocker, who
was actually my law school classmate, and I've gotten to
know him from various radio programs like this also, But
he's the guy who's totally all over Tim Walls and

(01:13:56):
just one thing after another after another. I mean, what
a fraud that guy. Yes, let alone, I think he
I think he is a genuine communist, like you know,
Bernie Sanders. It is honeymoon in Cuba and wolves to China.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
On our newsmaker line, for instance, Minton with the Manhattan
Contrarian talking about this year. I love this the most
unseerious presidential It.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
Is veiled headline. We didn't know where we were going
with this interview. We had no idea. Yeah, but what
was going to happen next?

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
All right? Coming up on the Rod and Greg Show,
our listen back Friday segments right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine knrs. Time now for our
listen back Friday segments. If you're new to the show,
what we do is take the last half hour of
the show every Friday, we look at some of the
interviews we've done with key newsmakers of the week and
replay those interviews. Just in case you didn't have. One
of the big stories this week, Greg, was the comments

(01:14:52):
by John Kelly that Trump was a fascist. The other
story about Trump and his meeting with this family who
lost a at Fort Hood in the comments being made there.
And we had a chance earlier this week. You were
off on Wednesday for this is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:05):
Why I listened back, Fred, I want to hear it. Yeah,
I had to leave the show show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Yeah, we had a chance to talk with THEO Wold.
THEO is a former deputy assistant to the President. As
a matter of fact, Greg was in that room where
the President met with that family, and as we began
our conversation, I asked THEO to explain, what are the
key elements of this story that people should know about.

Speaker 22 (01:15:26):
Yeah, the essential thing that your listeners need to know
is that it's a lie.

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
That's that's the main takeaway.

Speaker 22 (01:15:31):
So I was there at the meeting that President Trump
had with the gian family. I was a senior advisors
to the President for domestic policy for three years, and
on this occasion I was wearing like so sort of
a unique hat. I was asked to translate for the
gi In family, if you remember, Rod. At that time,
the President was dealing with these series of leaks is

(01:15:52):
private communications with other heads of state around the world,
and so the President wanted this conversation to be private,
had me come into the room to translate for missus
Gian and for his remarks back to her.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
We talked for about twenty five.

Speaker 22 (01:16:05):
Minutes with the family and the President's tone, his demeanor,
and his investment in Vanessa Gien, her family, especially her
sisters Maira Gien and Lupe Gien, who have both become
advocates for major reform at the Department of Defense.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
It was extraordinary.

Speaker 22 (01:16:24):
And I was just talking to my wife about this
the other day when the story broke, and she said
she still.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Remembers what I was like coming home from the White.

Speaker 22 (01:16:31):
House that day because it was an incredibly moving and
memorable occasion.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
And I'll tell you, Rod.

Speaker 22 (01:16:37):
Really what sticks out to me is that was when
the President for me was really the most extraordinary because
the narrative the left wants to spend, especially this late
hour in the campaign, is that he's not capable of
exercising the duties as commander in chief. And for me,
in that meeting, that was your commander in chief. He

(01:16:58):
was concerned about the family, not only because they're American
citizens and they were getting a rough go of things
from the Department Defense and the Department of the Army,
but he was concerned about Vanessa Gean because that was
one of his soldiers. That was one of his soldiers,
and he wanted to know what happened to her, and
why don't we have answers?

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Bil Let me ask you did during this meeting? Did
you see a different side of Donald Trump? Maybe a
side that you'd never seen before.

Speaker 22 (01:17:26):
I you know, like I said, I had worked for
the President in the White House for three years and
this was one of those moments where I saw a
man who was deeply invested in the pain and suffering
of again, not just fellow citizens, but you know, a
working class family that had really no political patrons, They
had no connections, and the President gave them this big portion.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Of his schedule, kept it off of the public.

Speaker 22 (01:17:51):
Record because he wanted it to be private, so he
wasn't looking for attention, He wasn't trying to show vote
off of a national's news story. Was these are the
forgot men and women of America. That was the thesis,
right and it still is. And I think that you
see that right now, Like you know, this evening.

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
George Conway tweeted out and said.

Speaker 22 (01:18:09):
To Mayra Gehan, Vanessa Gean's sister tweeted at her and said,
this isn't about your sister, and.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
If people like you would open your.

Speaker 22 (01:18:17):
Eyes, you would realize it's really about the psychopath.

Speaker 3 (01:18:20):
You know, Donald Trump, and I you know, I really.

Speaker 22 (01:18:23):
Think Rod, what your listeners should take away from this
hit piece from The Atlantic is it's the same story,
different day.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
The elites want to forget people like Vanessa Gan. They
want to.

Speaker 22 (01:18:33):
Forget all about the tragedy, the suffering of the Gian family,
and really the nastiness of what was going on at
that time, because you know, look, one interesting aspect of
the story that's been completely buried in memory hold if
you will, is at that time there were twenty five
servicemen and women who either went missing because the physical violence, rape,

(01:18:54):
or suicide at Fort Hood. So the President was in
a position to say, hey, we're going to shake things
up here. What the heck is going on at Fort Hood?
And so, look, the elites want to forget about Vanessa
gen because it's embarrassing to some of their friends, some
of the other higher up muckety MUCKs in DC that
they let this kind of situation fester. And President Trump

(01:19:16):
lanced the boil and said, not only are we going
to raise awareness of this this this individual case, but
I'm going to support legislation to make sure this never
happens again. And the I stand with Vanessa en Act
was pasted something that Democrats have talked about for decades
that they were going to get to the bottom of
how the Department of Defense investigates these kinds of cases.
And Donald Trump made it happen.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Theil Were you aware at all that this story in
fact may be coming out? And when it did come
out and the details of this story, how shocked were you?

Speaker 20 (01:19:45):
No?

Speaker 22 (01:19:45):
I had no idea that Jeff Goldberg was writing this story,
you know, I know, you know Chief of Staff then
Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows was contacted and he was,
you know, his spokesperson filed a response that was largely
ignored by the Atlantic.

Speaker 13 (01:20:00):
By Goldfus.

Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
When I saw the story.

Speaker 22 (01:20:03):
I mean I came out of work and I have
maybe twenty five text messages from former colleagues at the
White House who were saying, you were there that day.

Speaker 3 (01:20:13):
This isn't true, right, and you know this has got
to be a lie. They're making this up.

Speaker 22 (01:20:17):
And I said, yeah, definitively, definitely, because look, you know, right,
I was involved in a lot of different, you know, heartbreaking, heart.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Rending stories in my time in the White House.

Speaker 22 (01:20:26):
I worked on the Parkland shooting and with those you know,
twenty two families in Parkland for months years and dealt with.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
The grief and the suffering of those who lost their
children in that school shooting.

Speaker 22 (01:20:39):
At the Santa Fe shooting in Texas, I saw a
lot of brokenness and human tragedy during my time in
the White House. This one stood out to me because again,
this young woman put on the uniform to protect her country,
and her family was honored. They really were honored by
the fact that she war the uniform of the United States,

(01:21:02):
and no one cared about where she went and what
happened to her until the President of the United states said,
this is unacceptable, And the key detail for me rather
really angered me was just it's a sort of a
throwaway line in the Goldberg piece, but he says, well,
Trump did this in front of the cameras.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
He brought the media in. So what happened at the
end of our.

Speaker 22 (01:21:24):
Twenty minute discussion there in the oval is the President
turned to the family, into their counsel, their lawyer, and
he said, look, we can bring the press in if
you like, if it will help raise awareness of what
you're trying to do with this legislation, and if it'll
put pressure on DoD in the Department of Army to
give you answers, if that's.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
What you'd like.

Speaker 22 (01:21:46):
But I'll just tell you the press their vipers. They'll
manipulate things, they'll create a false narrative. So it's your choice.
And the family said, it will help us raise awareness
of what we're trying to do with this legislation, and
we want people to know what happened to our daughter,
to our sister.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
So the presidents that bring the president this was not
Donald Trump trying to capitalize on a sensationalized news story,
as Goldberg implied, This.

Speaker 22 (01:22:10):
Was Donald Trump giving the power of the presidency to
everyday working Americans, so they could talk about the tragedy
that they were suffering through again because their working class
daughter decided to put.

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
On the uniform to protect this country and the elites
couldn't be bothered to figure out what happened to her.

Speaker 22 (01:22:27):
And you'll remember, Rod, and they finally did do the
search of Fort Hood, they found the remains of another
missing service you know, another Mexican American serviceman who was
on missing that no one bothered to go looking for.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
As part of our Listen Back Friday segment, our conversation
with Theo Wall, the former deputy assistant to President Trump.
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show right
here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine Cannaists.
Let's continue with our Listen Back Friday segment as we
do every Friday at this time. You know, Greg and
I have been talking about this for quite some time.
There have been numerous national articles about this as well,

(01:23:01):
about this Mormon vote in Arizona and Nevada and the
attempts by both campaigns to go after and earlier this week,
we had a great conversation with Jared Whitley Jared is
a principal of Whitley Political Media. He wrote an article
about this, Greg. It's kind of fascinating to hear what
he has to say and what's going on down in
these two states.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Excellent, And you know we've been I've been on tilt
about all this. This is I need some you know,
sensible voices. So it's worth playing again for our listeners
in case they missed it.

Speaker 11 (01:23:28):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
As we began the conversation, I asked him about Jeff Flake.
Of course, Jeff Flake a Republican senator from Arizona at
one time never a big fan of Donald Trump, and
is now working on behalf of the Harris campaign. I
asked him, what's up with former Senator Jeff Flake?

Speaker 21 (01:23:43):
Well, I want to say something that I always admired
about Jefflake when I lived in when I lived and
worked in Congress many years ago, is even when there
were some of the excesses during the War on Terror
and but shares, he was always a really good budget hawks.
He was really good at standing up for was right
when even when his party may maybe wasn't. And so

(01:24:04):
that's what's so baffling to me is that he's on
completely on the wrong side of this issue.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
You know it is. The article really calls it the
way I've seen it, and I've not understood this, this resistance.
You can't you can't hold niceness over all else and
and and and I even think that the description of
Donald Trump not being nice is actually exaggerated greatly. But
I think that you did a great job of pointing
out that when you decide that if you're going to

(01:24:31):
make the moral argument, and that's what Jeff Flake's tried
to do, he said morally, I'm you know, I just
can't subscribe to Donald Trump. You're teaming up with a
with a ticket that has some strange bedfellows for Senator
Jeff Flake and others that would they would say that
they're trying to make the moral decision. The porn it
You point this out, the porn industry, people that mutilate
children for profit. The literal Satanic temple is part of their,

(01:24:55):
part of their big tent.

Speaker 21 (01:24:57):
Well, yeah, how do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
We frame the too. I'm a member of the Church
of Jewish Christ Larry Saints. How do I frame this
in a way where I'm not too I'm not being
not nice, I'm being nice, but I'm saying, I don't
understand the bedfellows you're keeping here if it's all about
we want to be nice and we want to be moral.

Speaker 21 (01:25:15):
See, and thank you for highlighting that part of my piece.
There's something where I say the other side needs to
justify their stance, not those of us who can't wait
to vote for Donald Trump for a third time.

Speaker 19 (01:25:26):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:25:27):
I mean we're talking about the left has gone so
far overboard that last year, when there's the worst attack
on Jewish people since the Holocaust, they started rioting on
behalf of the people who did it.

Speaker 8 (01:25:40):
Right.

Speaker 21 (01:25:40):
Yes, how on earth can someone look at that and
not say, Okay, we may have gone too far in
a few places. This is crazy, And so I look
at even more like with Donald Trump, I think a
lot of people who maybe are still living in twenty fifteen,
they confuse his style with his intent. And his style
is certainly not the George H. W. Bush, William F.

(01:26:05):
Buckley Elder Statesman an approach. But for many of us,
we're delighted that he doesn't subscribe to that kind of
style because we don't live in the nineties anymore. Right,
We're dealing with people.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
Who who have this this coalition of the of the
the I don't want to say evil, but in some
cases yes, like if you ride it on behalf of
Comasen has bluffed.

Speaker 21 (01:26:30):
That evil period. We can't we can't go into the
boxing ring with our kid gloves anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:26:37):
We need to we.

Speaker 21 (01:26:38):
Need to go in using the same kind of weapons
of war that the bad guys are using.

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yeah, and I've heard this phrase used many times before.
You cannot be a moderate in immoderate times, and we're
in immoderate times.

Speaker 21 (01:26:50):
Would you agree, Jared, Absolutely, we're in immodern times. I
don't think there's any sist thing as a moderate anymore.
I think someone who who Again, when you have people
who who are on the same side as those who
want to commit genocide against the people of Israel, there's
no compromise with these people. There's no middle ground. I think.

Speaker 7 (01:27:11):
I think if you.

Speaker 21 (01:27:12):
Say, oh, well, I'm a moderate, you're saying either you're
complicit or you're saying you're weak. And I think that's
what Jeff like is. I think he's so traumatized that
he thinks that if he if he folds to these people,
that they'll they'll give him a path and they won't you.
You can surrender today the bad guys, or if you

(01:27:34):
do that, you'll get conquered tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
So, Jared, I have a question. I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
got to know you. I noticed that you worked for
a center. Hatch. He's a dear friend of mine and
his roots in Pittsburgh have crossed with those. My mother
was a convert to this church and and he was
a big leader in the church when I was just
a baby. But anyway, point is he seemed to be
able to balance this very well. You couldn't mess around

(01:27:56):
with Warren Hatch. When we in twenty sixteen, he was
a very strong supporter of President Trump or then candidate Trump.
And he didn't start there, but he certainly was. And
when we had our election night party, many Republicans didn't
want to come to it because they didn't think Trump
would win and they had wanted to have their own parties.
And there was a Senator Hatch sand shoulder to shoulder
with me and many others that were there, and he

(01:28:17):
helped this and Don j. Donald Trump Junior has us
great stories about Orange Hatch being a mentor to him
and helping them along. It seemed like Center Hatch had
a way to understand very quickly who's on the right
side who's on the wrong side, And a lot of
times people from the LDS faith they will follow their leaders.
My fear is and my question I guess is where

(01:28:39):
Jeff Flake is a member of the Church of Gis
Christ latterday Saints from Arizona, and there is this worry
that the LDS, the Harris for LDS faction could make
that state swing Harris's way. Do you think do you
worry that there are members of the church that would
be swayed by Jeff Flake in the wrong way in

(01:29:00):
supporting Harris? Is this a real threat?

Speaker 19 (01:29:02):
It could be.

Speaker 21 (01:29:03):
I mean, I don't think he would have made the
announcement if he didn't think that his voice would have influence. Right,
If he thought it didn't matter nobody cares about me
anymore because I'm not in Congress, then I don't think
he would have said a word because he has nothing
to gain. If he doesn't think that he has he
can move the needle. Right, Yeah, that's my word, mate, Man,

(01:29:24):
I don't know, I don't know. Maybe it's something like
he thinks that he might be if this does help
when ambassadorship, this does help come or win Arizona. Maybe
he gets an ambassadorship or something like that. I don't know,
but it seems like it should be careful of scars
he earns in battles where he was fighting on the

(01:29:45):
wrong side.

Speaker 2 (01:29:46):
You're here, Jared.

Speaker 1 (01:29:47):
You you write something that I found fascinating your article
as well, that there for some reason, and I'm reading
from the article, progressive Mormons believe that the current uncivil
discourse is only the fault of popular Republicans. But there's
uncivil discourse on the other side of the island as well, right, Jared,
I mean, why do they believe that?

Speaker 21 (01:30:07):
It could be because of the echo chamber they're in.
It could be so like the thing that a week
and a half ago or so, I saw this on
my social media feed where I said, Okay, I can't
be quite anymore. I need to say something about this.
Is there been a professor in the Braxlaar, Kansas who said,
if you're not willing to vote for Tamala Harris, you
need to be lined up in shot. And I'm like, oh, okay,

(01:30:29):
that's not very civil, right, That is a call for
the kind of mass killings that communists have always been
known for. And I think there are just people on
the other side who their worldview is so shaped and
sheltered by algorithms and by the mainstream corporate media that

(01:30:50):
they don't see any of these kind of things, And
if they did, I think it would give them second thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
As part of our Listen Back Friday segment, how our
conversation earlier this week with Jared w talking about the
battle for the Mormon vote in Arizona and Nevada. Interesting,
gonna be interesting to see how that falls out. Isn't
it all right? That does it for us? Tonight, mister Hughes,
we're wrapped up for the week.

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
One more week to go, Hands out, chin down, ice forward.
There you go, all.

Speaker 1 (01:31:17):
Hands of the bell folks. Have a great, great weekend, everybody.
We'll be back Monday at four. Be safe out there.

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