The Rod and Greg Show: "Progressive Mormons" Voting for Kamala Harris

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have got twelve days until the election, and boy
is there a lot going on. But before we get
to that, you know, we're always concerned. You know, we've
talked for the last four years about election fraud, right,
and we don't know if there was an organized effort
or what was going on, but we knew something was up.
And this is the biggest fear.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Greg.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
It's not a widespread issue, but I think individuals take
it upon themselves to do something to try and influence
an election.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
In two points.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
That story out of Montana, where video obtained by a
local news outlet shows a Democrat operative tampering with an
election box dropbox a Montana appearing to try and tear
it off the wall. Yeah, okay, this operative has been
paid for by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and he,

(00:50):
you know, John Tester, a Democrat, is in real trouble
in Montana. And look what's happening up there.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Yeah, it doesn't surprise us. And we're going to see this,
get ready, folks. But you know the reason we can
tell you is share that story with you is I
think there are more cameras on these drop boxes, really,
they which I hope to see in Utah and this
legislature is I want to see voting judges or officials
that are at those drop boxes scanning driver's licenses when
you come to drop your ballot off. That would be
that would be the way to solve it. And then

(01:16):
close that drop box when you're not having someone man
it collect.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
And then you've got the story out of Minnesota where
they fired a ballot courier last week after Republicans spotted
unsecured ballots in the back of the van. Well walking
through a parking lot, a man spotted a county courier
vehicle with the rear door ajar and inside the back
of the van approximately a dozen boxes of unsecured ballots.

(01:42):
Gotta be careful, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
If you get in your ballot mailed to you, great,
fill it out, research it whatever you want. I would
not ask this postal service or anyone else to administer
this election for us. I would drop that off and
I'd make sure that it's dropped off during business hours.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, you're smart, You're smart. All right, We've got a
lot to get to today. You know, much has been
said this year about the betting markets. Greg and I
talk about it all the time. We track them each
into every day. I know Klay, Travis and Buck do
it as well. There are others that follow the betting markets.
We're gonna dig into that coming up later on this
half hour. A little bit later on in the show,
we'll talk about progressive members of the Church of Jesus

(02:19):
Christ of Latter day Saints wanting to live in that great,
in spacious building, you know what I mean. And our
good friend economist Steve Moore will join us later on.
He'll weigh in on Kamala's economic policy and her plans
to get the US economy up and going again. So
a lot to get to today, and as we like
to say each and every day, we invite you to

(02:39):
be a part of the program. We love your participation.
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
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on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say
hey ro Twelve days out Greg six polls out today
show the tide is now turning in Donald Trump's favor.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
So momentum is going on.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
So this time yesterday, yeah, yesterday, around this time, I
was very concerned about the h the potential October surprises
of Donald Trump he accused of attacking the family of
a service member that had been killed with racial epitaphs,
and then John Kelly, his former his former chief of staff,
saying that he likens him to Hitler. I mentioned to

(03:20):
our listeners that my Queen Bee and I had sat
with them at the White House reception Christmas reception after
he had resigned, so didn't see any Hitler worry in
his face back then. Those those were weighing on my
mind yesterday, but we had a beautiful town hall meeting
from Kamala Harris with CNN that dominated this news cycle

(03:41):
with real news that she doesn't know what she's doing
at all, and it actually, you know, made it put
in perspective that the pretend the fae October surprises of
faux accusations and really landed on what we should be
looking at, and that's she doesn't know what she's doing
at all.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
Almost now, this was seeing in an event held by
Anderson Cooper, who I thought did a good job in
laying some questions on in front of her, questions that.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Need to be in It did so good that my
Stockholm syndrome has me asking why why is he being
this bear like When did he pick up journalism as
a profession? When did this happen?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, So she took some questions from undecided voters, and
almost every one of the analysts on CNN after the
town hall meeting last night greg were saying she hasn't
closed the deal.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
What is she doing here?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
I mean, listen to this one exchange when one of
the folks in the audience last night asked her about prices.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
So, my question is concerning groceries. Grosser prices have gone
up quite a bit in the last four years, and
some people blame former President Trump, some people blame President Biden.
Who would you say is correct? And what would you
do to bring prices down for Americans?

Speaker 5 (04:48):
Thank you, Eric, And you're absolutely right. You know what,
I know what I think most Americans do it. Price
of grocery is still too high, and we need to
address it in a number of ways. One of my
aspects of doing what we need to do to bring
down the cost of living for working people in the
middle class in America is to address the issue of
grocery prices. Part of my background and how I come

(05:09):
to it is probably a new approach grounded in a
lot of my experiences as a former Attorney general where
I took on price gouging.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Now, let me ask you this, Greg, has she ever mentioned,
as she talks about price gouging all the time, one
company out there that she could accuse of price gouging
on groceries? Now, can you think of one? They never
bring up into this company here, price scouging.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
It's just say it. It's it's not specific, it's not
it is. It's just a it's a blanket statement with
no meaning behind it except for we know that price
fixing actually is the worst thing you could do. It
would just shoot everything up if you sure were trying
to create.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
But she's going after the price gougers even though there
aren't any. Rnnie and Kamala Harris. Another question came up
during the town hall last night. She was at if
she could name one policy achievement that she has attained
since being vice president.

Speaker 5 (06:05):
We've got to get past this era of politics and
partisan politics slowing down what we need to do in
terms of progress in our country, and that means working
across the aisle. I've done that before. We did it
around whether it be what we were able to accomplish
with the BI partisan infrastructure deal or some of the

(06:25):
work that we have done in terms of dealing with
gun safety. But we've got to work across the aisle.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Yeah, she got to work.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
So her policy statement, Greg is going to be that
she can't name a policy achievement that she's made, but
she's going to work across the aisle.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
That's going to be your policy achievement.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
YEA, that's not a real that's not a policy achievement.
Asked Trump talk about the economy. He says, we're in
cut energy prices in half in a year. I mean,
and let me tell you how that acts your budget
in your home, but also everything else, inflation, everything else.
And so she can't articulate that she doesn't have an
answer and have an answer to that.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Now, the other question that came up, one of those
in the attendance at the town hall asked her about
if she could name a weakness.

Speaker 5 (07:07):
I think that I perhaps a weakness some let's say,
but I actually think it's the strength as I really
do value having a team of very smart people around
me who bring to my decision making process different perspectives.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
You know, when she said that, I did not know
that they are using episodes of the sitcom Office The
Office as answers to questions because there was a clip
of Michael Scott where they said, what are your weaknesses?
My weaknesses are actually my strengths.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
That's what she just said.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
She really just said that was a straight face. Yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, So we have that little yeah. A
little bit later on. As a matter of fact, Donald
Trump quick to the draw on this one. Do you
have that audio ready? I sure do?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (07:55):
All right? You know before we go to our break.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
The Trump campaign has been so good in using what
she says and turn it into a political ad. Here's
the latest from the town hall meeting last night.

Speaker 5 (08:07):
Thank you, Eric, And you're absolutely right. You know what,
I know what I think most Americans do it post
price of grocery is still too high.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I'm Donald J. Trump and I approved this message. I mean,
his campaign has been great this year in turning those around.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
She's the gift that keeps on giving. Jelly of the month.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
All right, got a lot to get to when we
come back here on the Rowden Greg Show. We're going
to dig into the betting markets. A lot of attention
being paid this year to the betting markets. When it
comes to the race for the White House, and we'll
dig into that. That's all coming up right here on
the Rowden Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine knrs. Much has been made. You and I
have been tracking this almost daily. You do it, I

(08:47):
think hourly. We're talking about the betty markets because so
many people are saying they oftentimes reflect the real sense
of America compared to public opinion polls. That's why we
wanted to talk about this. Joining us on our newsmaker
line is Jeffrey Carter. Jeffrey is a blogger Points and Figures.
He wrote a great article about the betty markets. Jeffrey,
how are you welcome to the Roden Greg Show. Thanks

(09:08):
for joining us, Jeffrey.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Thanks thanks for having me.

Speaker 8 (09:11):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (09:12):
I love Salt Lake City. I did third grade there.
As a matter fact, my father got his PhD at
the University of Utah.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh, good for you, Good for you, Jeffrey.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Why why is it this year, Jeffrey, that it appears
so much attention is being paid to the betting markets
during this presidential election cycle.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Why so much attention, I.

Speaker 6 (09:33):
Think because in the last several years, many venture investments
have gone into startups that are like Polymarket and others,
and so you know, there's an incentive for investors to
kind of talk about their businesses because they want to

(09:54):
get people on them. I think the other thing is
in let's call it right wing media or people that
are conservative like myself, we're looking at it and Trump
is winning in the betting market right now, so we
kind of want to, you know, run up the scoreboard.
So I suppose that Trump was losing, I wouldn't be

(10:15):
as keen at looking at it all the time. But
I think I think that's one factor. I think betting
markets have been around. You have to understand betting markets
have been around for centuries. I mean, this isn't a
new phenomena. The fact that it's online is new, but
they are incredible predictors of things. As I talked about
in my blog. It's it's it's fascinating to watch this

(10:38):
year though, because it's it's not US based. I think
there's one called Calci that US people can put money on,
but Trump's still ahead in that one.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
So I watch it. I'm like you, this Polymarket's one
I watch every single day. I have been taking a
screenshot of the top line percentage. And then I've been
staring at Michigan and Wisconsin and Nevada and Sylvania and
I take screenshots of those. So I had three screen
shots every day since September first, and I've been I've

(11:06):
been tracking this and I'm watching it move, and I've
been even taking those screen shots on the on the
days and after the after the debate with Kamala Harrison Trump,
we it went the other way. She was the favorite.
We've been watching this the entire time. The ree What
appeals to me, uh, Jeffrey, is that you're putting your
money where your mouth is. It's one thing for someone
to call you or do a call, or have someone say, hey,

(11:28):
who do you like and how am I? How are
they going to oversample the Democrats? Where the smart money
is flowing to me is that it's like a lie
detector test. And people want to say, oh, no, it's
just people trying to manipulate it. But isn't it the
case that a lot these markets are all kind of
tracking the same way up and down.

Speaker 6 (11:47):
They are, And the simple fact is you can't manipulate them.
So even if a whale comes in, let's say, let's say,
you and I had a billion dollars and we said, hey,
we're going to move this market. So we go in
and we buy Trump for one hundred million and try
to move it, and maybe we threw do it across

(12:07):
different things. There's got to be somebody to take the
other side. So you know, my background is as a trader.
I was a commodity trader for thirty years on the
floor of the Market Hill Exchange and on their board
of governors, and so I would see big traders come
in and try to move markets all the time, and
they could move them for a short period of time,

(12:27):
but eventually the market returns back to the equilibrium. Same
in the prediction markets. And so in my blog I
talked about you know, I didn't buy into it. I
have a friend that's a PhD economist at the University Chicago,
and he's like, we're arguing about Obamacare being passed and
I said, no way, nobody's going to vote for that.
And he said, let's look at the Iowa prediction market,

(12:49):
which is now illegal, and it's not a market that
was very deep. I mean, people are betting just pennies,
you know, And it showed that Obamacare was going to pass,
and I go, no way is that going to happen?
And oh, by the way, there's not enough money and
it's all liquid and it's subject to manipulation. Well I
was wrong, and so I think the same is happening today.

(13:13):
So polls are polls. But if Trump and the other
thing you have to understand about markets is they priced
in all information as they get it. So like, you know,
Kamala could be up tomorrow if Trump has a really
bad day or something bad could happen. Right, it's not,
it's it's a predictor of where things are sort of
right now. But if we get to you know, Monday

(13:35):
night before the election, and they look like this Trump's
going to.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Win, you know, and you're one hundred percent right, because
I've been tracking this and I'm, you know, kind of
like rain Man on this thing. I've been watching it
so many times every single day. I just can't stop
watching that. I really do.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
You should be a stock trader.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I'm telling that. I'm just nuts about it. I check
it every day, not just every day, I check it
all day long. Well, I haven't seen Kamala Harrison the
forty percentile for almost oh it was about a week
seven seven straight days. She's been in the high thirties,
thirty six or thirty seven or eight or nine, but
she hit forty, and she she moved up three points.
Trump came down three points over the you know, the

(14:14):
John Kelly News and some of those, and so I
saw this really quick shift, not in the scary territory,
but I did see a shift and it was real.
But then we got that beautiful CNN town hall that
just you know it all and everyone went, oh, yeah, oh,
that's still her, oh.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
And so and so that that tracks perfectly right. So
markets didn't know about the John Kelly thing. It came
out there are people that are going to short cover, right,
They're going to get out of their positions, so they're
going to sell Trump and just cover, which is going
to drive the price down. And that brings the thing in.
And then the disastrous count hall I watched. I couldn't

(14:52):
hardly watch it, but but you know, and then the
market kind of went back because that's new and information again.
So it's going to do that. It's going to bounce around.
I think it's going to be hard for Trump until
maybe a few days before the election to get up
and to like break that let's say seventy percent. Yeah,

(15:14):
because there's just so much uncertainty and people are like, well,
like you hear. I've heard it on three podcasts today. Oh,
it's a close election. It's a close election. But then
the data coming in on early voting and stuff shows
that it actually might not be a close election, that
might be a landslide for Trump. But the market isn't telling.

Speaker 8 (15:31):
You that yet.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, not that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Jeffrey, great conversation, Thank you, and good luck. We hope
talk to you again.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, yes a lot.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Take care guys, all right.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Jeffrey Carter joining us on our Newsmaker line. Jeffrey is
a blogger and talks about points and figures. Talking about
the betting mark is.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Fascinating and listen. But I love that he's a commodity trader.
He I mean, this guy, he knows how this stuff works.
And he's right. If you think those odds are going
too far and Trump looks too favorable, you can make
money on the other side of that if you really
think Kama's going to win. So that's why I think
it does prevent someone from trying to to to rig it,
and you wouldn't spend that much money for a news
cycle to see it go up because people would come

(16:07):
in the other side if it was an accurate.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Well, that's why I love the story. Earlier this week, Greg,
remember we were talking about it that those on the
left were saying, you know, it's really only about four
people who've dumped a lot of money into it, and
that's why Trump.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Is doing so well. Yeah, that was the less.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Response, except for the fact that it's more than one
betting market and that would never be enough money to
do enough because people would go the other side.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
All right, more coming up on the Roden Greg Show
in Utah's talk radio one O five to nine kN rs. Well,
sometimes we talk about the show. Yeah, sometimeimes we talk
to each other, believe.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
It or not.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Other times we're eating, yes, and today we've been really treated.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Well, we have been. We have been feasting. I don't
even know if eating would be the right term feasting.
In fact, I actually thought, but you nixed it. We
could actually eat these chips and into the into the
microphone would.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Be I could eat chips into a microphone.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
We could I think they understand and told.

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Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yes, I've been I've been eating it quite a bit,
and yeah, I approve has my full support.

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Speaker 3 (17:40):
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Speaker 3 (18:21):
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know we're going to be taking advantage of that, cause
I get that. I don't get you know, you think
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you know, inside game in here, but no I'm not allowed.
I got to go, So I'm gonna get it. I
love it. It's really good.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
It's really good.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
All right.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
This has been burning up social media today and when
I saw this yesterday, Greg, I actually thought it. I
thought it happened in the Avenues area of Salt Lake City,
but we can't confirm that.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
No.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
So I saw I saw someone say this is like
the this is the Avenue. But maybe they're being sarcastic,
like this is something you would expect in our just
north of North Temple and in the Salt Lake City
area of the Avenues. So I thought at first, like
you did. This happened in the avenues, and it is
true that this would be something you would experience, I
think in the avenues, but I don't know that. I

(19:11):
can't say for certain that that's where this happened, but
a place like it.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, well, my guess is there are a lot of
Harris Walls signs up there. But there is somebody who
lived in this area that has a Trump van sign up,
and apparently a neighbor resident wasn't real happy about this.
Listen to this.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
First to know how you can vote.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
We can't answer the door right now, but if you'd
like to leave a message, you can do it now.

Speaker 11 (19:34):
Are you the one that walks by here and always
screaming with people?

Speaker 12 (19:38):
No, I hadn't wanted recently, okay, because a lot of
people walk by on screen. Yeah, I'm not supposed you
are boring for the.

Speaker 13 (19:45):
Table, don't you know that?

Speaker 14 (19:48):
No?

Speaker 11 (19:49):
Why are you borring for him? Because I believe he
is a moral candidate? Oh my god, thank you for
that person in your opinion. Yeah, I'm sorry, haven't I say?

Speaker 15 (20:11):
Say?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
The irony? And and you can't even unpack this. It's
so good, it's so unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
You have to see this video. But this lady, you
call her an elderly She is an elderly woman.

Speaker 16 (20:30):
She just comes right off the street, walks up to
this house these doorbells that have the video and audio
God watch on this and says, how dare you have
that sign in your front lawn? She cares enough, she goes,
She goes after people.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
This woman has navigated I don't know how many years,
seventy five plus years of planet Earth. Yeah, and she
doesn't understand her place in this world or or her
It is just unbelievably arrogant. But then when she says
it's he's the moral candidate, she wants to retort that
by dropping f bombs like, I don't think you're making
your case as convincingly as you think you are. I

(21:06):
think you're actually making her case for her.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Yeah, unreal. And she walks away, giving the resident of
this she's number one. Yeah, a couple one, A couple
of times she does this. So it's seventy video. Yeah,
because you and I when we first saw it late yesterday,
I thought it was in the Salt Lake Avenues area,
And of course.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
No I saw yeah Avenues esque or Avenues We're not sure,
but it's uh check it out. You got to see it,
and it's kind of funny. It's yeah, that Trump derangement syndrome.
It hits in crazy ways.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it sure does.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
All right, Mark, coming up, Rod and Greg with you
on this Thursday afternoon right here on Utah's Talk Radio
one oh five nine k nrs.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Guess who's under investigation now? McDonald's. Oh why, by the Democrats,
can you believe.

Speaker 16 (21:53):
That law fairs coming after Ronald mcdonaldy go Apparently in
a letter written by Senators Widen, a Democrat from Oregon,
Bob Casey as you someone you know well, Democrat from Pennsylvania,
and Elizabeth Warren from uh Massachusetts, underscoring the success of
the president's trip, they now want an investigation to see if,

(22:15):
in fact McDonald's has been price s couching.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Oh that's just a just a blind coincidence, folks. Nothing
to see here, Just move along. Yeah, that's what they're
doing there, you know, Harris Kamala Harris and and in
walls they have frequented, uh, sandwich shops, restaurants. It's it happens.
But I guess if you're Trump and you're McDonald's. It's

(22:40):
guitar story.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
So I guess the word goes out to every restaurant
and franchise e in America. Do not let the former
president come in or you'll be investigated.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah, and it's true. It's like it sounds like it
should be a joke, but here we are. They're gonna
they're gonna mess with McDonald's.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Another you're you're an animal lover. You love apes, all right? Gorillas?
I love gorillas.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I like to watch videos of gorillas. People say about cats.
I don't care about cats. I love gorilla cat. Are
you a cat guy or no? I'm a dog guy. Yeah,
I love dogs, but those gorillas. Cats are moody man guy. Gorillas,
the silver backs, they're just like dads.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
Man.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
They are so funny. I love watching videos of gorillas.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Do you go up to the zoo and just sit there?

Speaker 6 (23:20):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Watching gorillas? Once for my birthday, I got to go
and see. I didn't go in, but I got to
I got to feed them and and and learn about them.
It was really good. It was it was a special
gift that I got to spend time with the gorillas.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Do you make gorilla faces at the gorilla with your No.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Actually, they tell you not to make eye contact because
they think you're they think you're trying to be aggressive
with them if you if you eyeball them that the guys,
the moms are they're fine, but the the dads don't
want you eyeball on them. It's so great. I actually
respect it.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Did you eyeball one?

Speaker 6 (23:49):
No?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I actually I actually took it for you know, because
I wanted to like me.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, I bring I bring up animals because this is
really sad story out of Yellowstone. A grizzly bear known
as number three ninety nine, struck and killed by a
vehicle Tuesday night, will out with her cub in Grand
Teta National Park.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Well, that's that's a terrible story to share. You got
me all wound up about animals. I think you tell
nice animal stories. See, I try and connect the two.
It is said.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
The incident occurred Highway twenty six eighty nine. You don't
need this in the Snake River Canyon located there in
Jackson Hole. National Park Service said the driver of the
vehicle was okay, but the whereabouts of the yearling cub
is unknown. So that little cup and there's a cub
involved to what she was with the cub when she
got hit.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
This is I don't know how you thought this this.
You're supposed to tell feel good stories. This is a
feel sad story. This is a feel sad story. But
I want to make people aware of it. Apparently, conversation
this grizzly very very popular up there. You're seeing a grizzly. No, no,
I've seen the buffalo and uh yeah, I've seen some
mooses meat.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
You know, it still cracks you up. And you see
these stories, especially during the summer, when people go up
to yellows doing a grand tee ton and they get
within two feet of a wild animal and then idiots.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
But I will say I did. I didn't hurl snowballs,
but I've never gotten to.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
You threw snowballs at a buffalo?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Yeah you did, And I nailed it too, And he
just he didn't even look at first, so I did again.
Eventually he kind of just gave a slow look. He
gave me a slow look. Yeah, nod.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Why were you pestering the poor animal?

Speaker 3 (25:23):
I just want to see he seems so docile. I
want to see if he was if he was awake,
but animal, I wouldn't do that to hurt him. I
mean it was a hurt. It a giant animal. And
the snowballs are not hard, so it was fine. But no,
I would never do it to a grill. They would
It would chase me down.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They catch me, they should you throw snowballs at me,
I'll chase you down. But I think it's just sad.

Speaker 6 (25:46):
It is.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
It's why you shouldn't have shared it. It's not the
kind of story. We're a family friendly show show. Yes,
we're up We're upbeat man. We got good things happening
around here. We want to talk about grizzlies. Mama, grizzlies
getting hurt killed a story.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
All right, what do we I apologize for hurting you?

Speaker 17 (26:03):
All right?

Speaker 16 (26:03):
When we come back here in the Rodding Greg show,
j Trump does not approve of this story.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Abby will give us a news update and then we'll
come back. We'll talk about the struggle Mormons, members of
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints or
having an Arizona over who to vote for Donald Trump
or one Kamala Harris.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
We'll have to look into this, ye, I want.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
To dig into this.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
We'll get some thoughts on this and maybe ask you
a few questions if you run into somebody.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Listeners, need to walk me through this one.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Yeah, great, he is struggling with this, folks. He is
really struggling. So we'll do that after we get you
a news updates coming up at the top of the
hour here on the Rodd and Greg Show. As always
great to be with you, and if you want to
go everywhere with us or take us wherever you go,
download us on the iHeartRadio lot or coming up our
number two of Rodding Greg.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Next, who's telling me that this is that the moral choice,
that the one that's going to protect religiously everything is Harris? Really?

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (27:04):
What am I missing?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah? Got nuts.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
We're gonna do this interview, but I want to do
after we I want to talk to the listeners. They're
gonna have to explain this to me.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
Well, I want to read with you. Now.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
These are out of some Washington, DC papers, newspapers. All right,
they read a headline Trump drives wedge among Arizona Mormon voters. Wow,
one story. All right, here's another one. Mormon's for Harris
set on making an impact in Arizona. So this whole
story about you know, the fight for the Mormon vote

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in Nevada and Arizona has got a lot of press
coverage of late, media coverage of late because they think
the race is going to be so tight in Arizona
and Nevada. Whoever can win the so called Mormon vote
could have a chance of winning this state. Now, as
I recall, I think there are about four hundred thousand
members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day
Saints in Arizona and I think two hundred and fifty

(27:57):
thousand in Nevada. So, greg that is a pretty significant
voting block.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
But if you care a wit about religious liberties at all,
if you think that your religious standing ought to have
standing in the United States, where does Kamala Harris come
into the equation. She didn't go to that Al Smith fundraiser,
which is the Catholic Charities because she didn't want to
offend her LGBT community or the pro abortion community or

(28:23):
voting block. Well, you know she could say the same
about us. Yeah, when she was a senator. She's attacking
this federal nominee for a court for a federal district
court because he's a member of the Knights of Columbus
which is one hundred and forty two year Catholic organization
dedicated to public service. She even questioned his faith that
he was a Catholic. I'm almost trying to unconstitutionally create

(28:46):
a litmus test for religion, like this religious test whether
he could be a judge or not. That's not even
to talk about her. On the campaign trail and someone
said Jesus the Lord, and she said, you're at.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
The wrong rally. My father was a member of the
Knight of Columbus.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Yes, it's a very proud I mean it's a very
good thing. They do very good things.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Well, let's talk more about this fight over the Mormon
voted in Arizona and Nevada. Joining us on our newsmaker
light right now is Jared Whitley. Jared is a principle
of Whitley political media. Always great tact with him. Jared,
thanks for joining us. You're right about this story. The
first question that Greg and I have is what on
earth has happened to Jeff Flake.

Speaker 18 (29:22):
Well, I want to say something that I always admired
about Jeff Flake when I lived in when I lived
and worked in Congress many years ago, is even when
there were some of the excesses during the War on Terror,
and Bush hears he was always a really good budget hawks.

Speaker 9 (29:37):
He was really good at standing up.

Speaker 18 (29:39):
For what was right, even when his party maybe wasn't.
And so that's what's so baffling to me is that
he's on completely on the wrong side of this issue.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know it is. The article really calls it the
way I've seen it, and I've not understood this resistance.
You can't hold niceness over all, and and and I
even think that the description of Donald Trump not being
nice is actually exaggerated greatly. But I think that you
did a great job of pointing out that when you

(30:10):
decide that if you're going to make the moral argument,
and that's what Jeff Flake's tried to do, he said, morally,
I'm you know, I just can't subscribe to Donald Trump.
You're teaming up with a with a ticket that has
some strange bedfellows for Senator Jeff Flake and others that
would that would say that they're trying to make the
moral decision. The porn it You point this out, the
porn industry, people that mutilate children for profit, the literal

(30:33):
Satanic temple, it's part of their part of their big tent. Well,
how do we frame this too. I'm a member of
the Church of Jesus Christ laterday Saints. How do I
frame this in a way where I'm not too I'm
not being not nice. I'm being nice, but I'm saying
I don't understand the bedfellows you're keeping here if it's
all about we want to be nice and we want

(30:54):
to be moral.

Speaker 18 (30:56):
See, and I thank you for highlighting that part of
my peace where I say the other side needs to
justify their stance, not those of us who can't wait
to vote for Donald Trump for a third time. Right,
I mean we're talking about the left has gone so
far overboard that last year, when there's the worst attack
on Jewish people since the Holocaust, they started rioting on

(31:19):
behalf of the people who did it. Right, Yes, how
on earth can someone look at that and not say, Okay,
we may have gone too far in a few places.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
This is crazy.

Speaker 18 (31:31):
And so I look at even more like with Donald Trump,
I think a lot of people who maybe are still
living in twenty fifteen, they confuse his style with his intent.
And his style is certainly not the George H. W. Bush,
William F. Buckley elder statesman approach. But for many of us,

(31:53):
we're delighted that he doesn't subscribe to that kind of
style because we don't live in the night in these anymore. Right,
we're dealing with people.

Speaker 9 (32:02):
Who who have this this coalition.

Speaker 18 (32:05):
Of the of the the I don't want to say evil,
but in some cases, yes, like if you riot on
behalf of Camasin has bluffed that evil period.

Speaker 8 (32:15):
We can't.

Speaker 18 (32:17):
We can't go into the boxing ring with our kid
gloves anymore. We need to We need to go in
using the same kind of weapons of war that the
bad guys are using.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, and I've heard this phrase used many times before.
You cannot be a moderate in immoderate times, and we're
an immoderate times. Would you agree, Jared.

Speaker 18 (32:35):
Absolutely, we're in im modern times. I don't think there's
any sist thing as a moderate anymore. I think someone
who who Again, when when you have people who are
on the same side as those who want to commit
genocide against the people of Israel, there's no compromise with
these people. There's no middle ground.

Speaker 9 (32:54):
I think.

Speaker 18 (32:55):
I think if you say, oh, well, I'm a moderate,
you're saying either you're complicit or your Senior Week, and
I think that's what Jeff like is.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
I think he's so traumatized that he thinks.

Speaker 18 (33:06):
That if he if he folds to these people, that
they'll they'll give.

Speaker 6 (33:12):
Him a path, and they won't.

Speaker 18 (33:14):
You can, you can surrender today the bad guys, and
if you do that, you'll get conquered tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
So, Jared, I have a question. I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
I got to know you. I noticed that you worked
for a center. Hatch. He's a dear friend of mine
and his roots in Pittsburgh have crossed with those. My
mother was a convert to this church end and he was.
He was a big leader in the in the church
when I was just a baby. But anyway, point is
he seemed to be able to balance this very well.
You couldn't mess around with Warren Hatch. When we in

(33:42):
twenty sixteen, he was a very strong supporter of President
Trump or then Canada Trump. And he didn't start there,
but he certainly was. And when we had our election
night party, many Republicans didn't want to come to it
because they didn't think Trump would win and they had
wanted to have their own parties, and there was a senator,
Hatch Send Shorter, Shoulder, me and many others that were there,
and he helped this and Don J. Donald Trump Junior

(34:05):
has us great stories about Orange Hatch being a mentor
to him and helping them along. It seemed like Center
Hatch had a way to understand very quickly who's on
the right side, who's on the wrong side. And a
lot of times people from the LDS faith they will
follow their leaders. My fear is and my question I
guess is where Jeff Flake is a member of the

(34:26):
Church ofis Christ latterday Saints from Arizona, and there is
this worry that the LDS, the Harris for LDS faction
could make that state swing Harris's way. Do you think
do you worry that there are members of the church
that would be swayed by Jeff Flake in the wrong
way in supporting Harris? Is this a real threat?

Speaker 18 (34:49):
It could be. I mean, I don't think he would
have made the announcement if he didn't think that his
voice would have influence. Right, if he thought it didn't
matter nobody cares about me anymore because I'm not in Congress,
then I don't think he would have said a word,
because he has nothing to gain. If he doesn't think
that he has he can move the needle.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Right, Yeah, that's my word, mate.

Speaker 18 (35:10):
Man. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's something
like he thinks that he might if if this does
help whin ambassadorship, this does help come l Win Arizona.
Maybe he gets an ambassadorship or something like that. I
don't know, but it seems like it should be careful
of scars he earns in battles where he was fighting

(35:31):
on the wrong side.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
You're here, Jared.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
You you write something that I found fascinating your article
as well, that there for some reason, and I'm reading
from the article, progressive Mormons believe that the current uncivil
discourse is only the fault of populist Republicans. But there's
uncivil discourse on the other side of the aisle as well, right, Jared.
I mean, why do they believe that?

Speaker 18 (35:56):
It could be because of the echo chamber they're in.
It could be so like the thing that week and
a half ago or so. I saw this on my
social media feed where I said, Okay, I can't be
quite anymore. I need to say something about this. Is
there been a professor in the bras or Kansas who said,
if you're not willing to vote for Tamala Harris, you
need to be lined up in shot. And I'm like, oh, okay,

(36:18):
that's not very civil, right. That is a call for
the kind of mass killings that communists have always been
known for. And I think there are just people on
the other side who their worldview is so shaped and
sheltered by algorithms and by the mainstream corporate media that

(36:39):
they don't see any of these kind of things. And
if they did, I think it would give them second thoughts.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Wonder if people will have second thoughts. I mean, certainly
they've got to be looking at this now. Greg and
is saying, you know, she just doesn't have it, and
she doesn't. But I know, you know, members of the
of the LDS faith of which, as you explained, and
I'm a member of his well well, who just can't
vote for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
And I asked him why and.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
They it's a character issue with them.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
He's not nice.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
I mean, will this whole Supreme Court wouldn't be what
it is without him having been our president and all
the good things that have happened from it, and are
our religious liberties that others don't give a wit about.
He has and I mean first president to go to
the right to life rally in DC. First president there,
we go to that rally. Let's start looking at these
things here. There's some real measurables out here.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Well, when we come back, we'll get some of your
calls on this. Why are there people of faith who
have such a difficult time with Donald Trump? And if
you'll tell me why, we'd like to know eight eight
eight five seven eight zero one zero, or on your
cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Ron,
Now we are talking right now about this battle going
on in Arizona and in Nevada over the Mormon vote.

(37:50):
There are a significant voting block there with races so tight,
people are real. Kamala Harris and Donald Trump are making
pitches to those voters. And the question that Greg and
I have what is it about Donald Trump that gets
under your skin?

Speaker 2 (38:03):
I don't get it, Greg no more.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
And especially with Harris as the candidate that you would
choose otherwise, she has actually a verifiable record that's not
pro freedom of religion. She's very hostile to religion and
to faith. There's a really important I think editorial editorial
by Jadie Vance in the Pittsburgh Post Casette, which is
a strong Catholic community, and the headline for his editorial

(38:29):
is Kamala Harris's prejudice against Catholics, which you can extend
to members of any faith as these prejudices that she's
shown in her decisions in California, in the US Senate
and even as a vice president, and what she has supported,
and you know that does infringe upon our religious liberty.
So that being the alternative to Trump is what is

(38:51):
also a mystery to me that I need our good
smart listeners to help me, help walk me through it.
So let's start with dawning us from Draper Donn. Thank
you for holding, thank you for calling the Rod and
Greg show. Help me out here. What is going on?
How could anyone say if there if this is a
religious issue, they're going with Harris.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
I don't understand why you brought up the question that
people have a question as far as with Trump and
these character issues, when Kamala has got far more and
more character issues than what Donald Trump. For example, her
husband and he got the babysitter pregnant, and that's what

(39:35):
you would call is the pedophile. So she's bringing a
pedophile into the White House if she makes it. And
also with her characterstic character rather as when she was younger,
she she was sleeping with this guy in California in
order to get ahead, and you call that prostitution. So

(39:57):
why I don't understand why they got it with that,
with that kind of a question.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I thank you, don I thank you for I am
as confused as you are. You you are, you're what
you're scratching your head like I am. I mean, she's
she doesn't have this lily white history. She doesn't have it.
Forget how she's voted, even her her history. Again, if
if there is a LDS. Harris for Trump movement, it's like,
you know, the Satanic temples supporting Kamala Harris, let's go

(40:25):
join them, the pornography industry supporting Kamala Harris, which is true,
these are true endorsements. Let's go. Let's go follow them
with this candidate. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Let's go to Jeremy and Brigham City if he can
help us figure it out. Jeremy, how are you welcome
to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 9 (40:41):
Love you guys, you're doing amazing work.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 9 (40:44):
It really really comes down to that they've been they've
grown up listening and watching mainstream regime media, the alphabet
News two four and five. You'll never hear anything negative.
You'll never hear the truth about Kamala. You'll never hear
the truth about what Democrats do behind the scenes. Democrats
love to do things quietly, and they're very effective. They're

(41:07):
very sick. It's sick about how they do things and
get horrible, horrible laws codified into law. She supports abortion,
I mean, and she's with no exception, no religious conceptions,
no exceptions. Yeah, it's disgusting, and members will never hear that.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
They'll never hear that.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, you're right. There's a lot that the people don't
know about Kamala Harrison, her positions. She is trying to
hide everything. She is very progressive. I mean, she's farther
left than Burning Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and she's hiding it.
Why don't people see right there?

Speaker 8 (41:41):
Right?

Speaker 3 (41:41):
And I have examples we can share. Yeah, Jeremy is
super smart regime me. He knows he.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Knows all right.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
More of your calls coming up on the Rod and
Greg Show right here on Utah's talk radio onet oh
five nine.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
K and R asked, I want to hear.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
From you, the listeners, because you're the smart ones, the
smartest listening audience and all the land. Let's talk to
Steve and m walk me back from this, Cliff, Steve,
please welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (42:07):
Thanks to the last two calls, probably had most of
what I wanted to say. But I have two other thoughts.
One is the Donald Trump, of course, wasn't a politician.
He actually tells how he feels. The Democrats probably since
Roosevelt and Kennedy and Johnson, the news kept everything quiet.

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They weren't good people at all. In fact, Hillary Clinton
was probably one of the worst my job with the government.
I can't really say what I did, but the people
that knew her, so she was probably one of the
worst persons. But we don't hear anything about it because
the news you won't talk about it. And the same

(42:53):
thing with Donald Trump. He feels he talks to the
media and they'll touch some of the words that he says,
even though he is trying to be truthful. So I
think that's one of the biggest reasons. And the other
one is that people of faith, they don't listen to
They listen to the mainstream media primarily. And I think

(43:16):
when Romney tried to be a religious is allot that
really affected many of the l s people, the old
s faith because he talked almost like he was one
of the radical religious people when he had that news
media confrontation, which really affected me and my position in

(43:39):
the Republican Party.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
All right, Steep, appreciate your thoughts on great insight too,
just from his career and things. He's privy too, and
that's worrying about, you know, just because you can't see
publicly what some of these people are doing. The media
has hit it, you know, from our consciousness. It's true.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Let's go to Tuilla and talk with James tonight here
on the rod In Greg Show.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Hi, James.

Speaker 19 (44:02):
D and miss Speaker. This is this is not This
is not hard for people. Maybe in Arizona maybe it
would be hard because the people they pick people like Flake.
You know, no pun intended, but I just I just
feel like this is an easy thing. Okay, you had
a great economy, you had cheaper groceries, you had all

(44:25):
that good stuff. Okay, if if it's your if you're
worried about the moral high ground when it comes to
her and that party. Yeah, you need to check yourself
on that one.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah you sure do.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
You look at some of the policies and let me
tell you what, folks, she is trying to portray herself
right now to the American people and people of faith
as a moderate that she will cross the bridge. You
will reach out to Republicans when she is elected. Watch
what happens. Be very very there's no evidence you will
go back. She had said, Greg, I will follow my values. Well,

(44:57):
we know what her values are.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
Yep, and try and believe it when she says it. Right,
Let's go to Thomas in Salt Lake City. Thomas, thank
you for calling in to the Roden greg Show.

Speaker 8 (45:08):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 20 (45:09):
In general conference, one of the prop one of the counselors,
said that we need to make sure we're watching who
we're voting for good versus evil. Now we have one
who's a bombasic person and the other one who's projecting
her evils, calling those verts an annazi. And while she
was just an attorney help overturn the law in California
against same sex marriage. So there's your question, who are

(45:30):
you going to vote for one who wants to have
evil or one who just says he's bombastic.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Amen to that. Thomas's guy. All of our colors have it.
Every one of these colors is dialed in on us.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
You know what I always say, Greg, and I've said
this on the show before, is that the politician of
the policies? And right now, which policy would you favor?
We don't know what hers are, so we only have
really one choice right now when it comes to policy.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
And I think this year too, his campaign's been better
about showing the human side of him and when he
was at McDonald's, when he's been you know, there's just
there's side.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yes, absolutely, I really agree.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Let's go to Nate and Morgan. Nate, thank you for holding,
Thanks for calling the Ron and Greg Show. What do
you think about this? And why is there an LDS
problem with Donald Trump or is there one?

Speaker 8 (46:16):
No?

Speaker 21 (46:16):
I think there definitely is, Robin, Greg, it's great to
be on. You know, to me, it's really sad. I
think that there's two components that really have caused this issue.
And I think first and foremost Mitt Robney. I mean,
look at what he's done and the things that he said,
the way he treats Trump, the way that he's gone
against everything he should stand for, because what Trump does

(46:36):
is he fights for us every day. I mean, it
is crazy that you would want to vote for Kamala
Harris because everything she does is to try to force
you to do something and intimidate you. And so it
really is baffling. Its sad that that's the case. All
you have to do is look at what Trump did
for the four years that he was president and what
he did for our country. So that's that's what I'd say.

(47:00):
Homney has done more damage to the state of Utah
than I think anyone when it comes to politics.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
All Right, Nate, thank you very very much. You know
what I thought I had I was I was listening
to Nate. Is there a feeling among members of the
LDS church and there may be feeling among Catholics as well.
If he's more many must be right, so I must support. Yeah,
I think there is some of that. I do think
there's some of that. But I really feel that the
balloom came off the rows in twenty twenty when there

(47:26):
was the impeachment of Donald Trump and when he stood
up to give his speech as to why he was
going to vote to impeach Donald Trump. He said it
was because of his faith and the way he said
it and the way he said that this is why
he's going to vote to impeach him. It really left
into question, well, what about Mike Lee, What about other
people of faith that are voting to not not can

(47:47):
impeach and ecquit him and kick him out office?

Speaker 3 (47:50):
And I couldn't. I can't tell you how many people
told me that it was based on his faith that
he made that decision that alienated Mitt Romney with so
many Utahs. It's why I think he also only didn't
run for re election in this state.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
It could be Let's go to Rick and Bear River
tonight here on the rod In Greg Show. Hi, Rick,
how are you?

Speaker 8 (48:07):
That's good talking to you again. I'm still upset that
Greg's not our governor.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Oh, thank you. I appreciate it, appreciate the shot up.

Speaker 8 (48:15):
I've been a member. I've been a member of the
Church of Jesus Christ the latterday Saints for seventy six years.
I've attended thousands of sacarate meetings, priested meetings, Sunday school meetings,
and other church meetings and I have come very clearly
to understand in those meetings that every policy that he

(48:35):
has projected and promoted by the Democrat Party is diametrically
opposed to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Virtually everything that
Donald Trump promoted and did is fully in line with
the Gospel of Jesus Christ. So I am absolutely flummixed

(48:55):
and at a total loss is to understand why anybody
in the church could support somebody that promotes, you know,
the gender issues that these people have, and the lack
of accountability and personal responsibility, and lack of crime and
punishment and all of the other issues that are totally

(49:15):
diametrically opposed to what I've come to understand and learn.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
Rick, couldn't that what an incredible statement. Thank you so much,
and that seventy six years nothing to sneeze at you.
You know what you're talking about. Let's go. We got
we got to I think sixty seconds or less, Dave,
but we want to hear from you from South Jordan.
Thank you for calling. What say you choice?

Speaker 17 (49:32):
That's Kamala Harris, She'll kill your babies. That's diametrically opposed
to church teachings. For President Russell M. Nelson the nineteen
eighty five conference Dock, I suggest everyone listen to it.

Speaker 8 (49:43):
You need to vote.

Speaker 17 (49:44):
Trump in this election or you're going to lose your country,
your freedom of religion and everything else. So good luck.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
People.

Speaker 17 (49:51):
You got five versions of five wives versions, and that's
what you got right now, all.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Right, Dave Sure.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
This is why I love our audience so much. I
love it. Every single one of these have been a
gatling gun of truth bombs. I mean, just boom, boom boom.
I just thank you so much for calling in clarifying this.
It's boy, I this is why it's This is why
it's online. That's why you can go to iHeartMedia Radio
and get this podcast because people need to hear our
callers because they they there couldn't be a more clear

(50:19):
choice in this election, and they articulate it exactly right.
I mean, that's so thanks for calling in. We appreciate it.
We come back. Steve Moore, the Einstein of the economy himself,
will be.

Speaker 16 (50:33):
Joining us Economist Extraordinary Economists, extraordinary Steve Moore, it's coming up.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Isn't it funny how that that story about what's his name?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Who am I thinking of the Chief of.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Stafy, Yeah, Jack Eric Kelly, John.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Kelly saying that that Trump is a fascist, thinking, well,
that's gonna you know, the Democrats really want that to
dominate the news cycle. It's fizzled down in about one
day because you know what, Paul show, Americans don't care.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
It's such a weak accusation they've made for so long.
But it did start to have It started to look
like it was sticky, was moving the betting markets that
I talk about so much. It was starting to change it.
He was going down a little bit, she was coming
up a bit, and I was worried about the official
nature of what she was saying and what that meant,
if that was a foreshadowing of other things, and it
still might be, or they would hope it would be,

(51:22):
but the fact that didn't have any legs, and then
she entered her town hall, it just it disappeared. And thankfully, thankfully,
so I'm feeling good again. I'm back, baby, I'm back.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Well without you know, without a doubt. Immigration and the
economy are the two big issues of this campaign. Joining
us on our newsmaker line, our good friend Steve Moore
and economists at Freedom Work's also a top economic advisor
to former President Trump, joining us on our Newsmaker line.
Always great to have Steve all right, Steve Kamala has
been out and about, finally doing media interviews, mostly with

(51:53):
friendly media, and talking to the American people about a
number of issues, including the economy. What did your assessment
of her economic policy so far, as Steve, what economic plans?

Speaker 22 (52:06):
You know, I'm still kind of waiting to hear what
it is. I mean, I think what's happened in the
last couple of weeks. I mean, look, there's been clearly
a little bit of a venom shift towards Trump. Whether
that's going to be enough to get him over the hump,
you know, we'll see. I think he's in pretty good
shape right now, but it's still very close. But I
think one of the things that's happened is people you know,
it's funny you sad so to ask this question because

(52:28):
she really doesn't have an answer to it. She's not
telling the American people what she's going to do. She
won't say what she would do differently than Joe Biden,
which I think is enough reason to give voters a
lot of skepticism. Since there was a disastrous economy for
the most part under Joe Biden and for more years
of that, I think would be really tough on American families.
So the one thing that we do know she will

(52:50):
do is raise access by five trillion dollars. That's the
one thing she's announced, and every speech she gives she says,
I'm going to text the rich they're going to pay
for all the bills, which is a part dream because
we just did a study of unleashed prosperity and we
showed that even if you took every single penny of
every millionaire and billionaire in the country, every single penny
that they earn, that would still not be enough money

(53:11):
to balance the budget. So if they're going to try
to do this through taxation, and they're going to go
after the middle class.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
So if you ask me what President Trump, former President
Trump's economic plan looks like, I think he starts with
will cut energy and costs in half, and he goes
through why that has an inflationary effect, how that impacts
your home budget as well as everything else you do,
and he gets very specific. I find nothing as you've
pointed out, As you said about Kamala Harris's plan, it's

(53:42):
all based on personalities bringing people together. Do you know,
joy whatever it might be, do you think that the
American people, because these are kitchen table issues, are they
going to be good? Is it going to be good
enough to know that this person would be president? And
we really I guess someone else will be running it
and tell her what to say because she can't really
articulate when the even when we're to less than two

(54:03):
weeks out, what she would actually do is that? Is
that going to carry the day with a lot of voters.
I think this could be a landslide.

Speaker 22 (54:12):
Well could be. I mean, listen, but by the way,
before I answered that, I've been chomping at the bit
to talk to you because the new numbers came out
for which states since COVID hit the have created the
most new jobs. And guess what state that is?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Utah?

Speaker 22 (54:30):
Will you guys stop winning.

Speaker 12 (54:34):
So much?

Speaker 3 (54:35):
You're gonna get tired of winning. That's right, that's Utah.
That's us manufacturing jobs too.

Speaker 22 (54:40):
By the way, yeah, so you Utah on Tanna and
Idaho something about those mountain states are doing really well.
But in any case, that is Kamala. I think that
she doesn't want to tell the American people what she's
going to do, because the things that they want to
do like promote getting rid of gas doves and getting

(55:01):
rid of gas cars and uh, you know, running of
the debt increasing, uh, you know, welfare benefits, the kind
of socialist agenda. That's what the progressives want to do.
And I want to remind your listeners because sometimes people forget.
I mean, she did have the most liberal voting record
in the United States Senate. She was to the left
of Elizabeth Warren and she was to the left believe

(55:22):
it or not, of Bernie Sanders. That's pretty hard to do.
I mean, you've got a pretty pretty waco in terms
of your economic philosophy to want to to get to
the left. I didn't even know you could get to
the left of Bernie Centers. So the point is she's
not a centrist, she's not a moderate. She's a hardcore
left wing San Francisco liberal. And if that's what the

(55:42):
country wants, God forbid, then you know we're going to
get those kind of policies, you know. And speaking of
San Francisco, I mean she is from there. She was
the attorney general of the state. San Francisco is a
mess it's it's so hyper prayer. I just got bathrooms emphasis.
The progressives have completely ruined one of America's jewel cities.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, let's talk about her plan on housing. She's proposing
what giving people twenty five thousand dollars for a down payment,
building more houses? I mean, is anything that she's talking
about when it comes to helping people get into a home?
Does any of that make sense? And would it even worked?

Speaker 22 (56:15):
Steve Well, you know, that's basically what she's telling the
people is you're going to get a lot of free
things if you let me. I'm going to be the
tooth fairy and I'm going to give you free dollars.
And so childcare is going to be free, you don't
have to pay back your student loans. College is going
to be free. Healthcare is going to be free. The
latest thing is home healthcare. Now home healthcare. You know,

(56:35):
you try to pay for everybody's home healthcare. You know,
I'm a baby boomer, we're getting older. You're talking about
trillions of dollars. Lord knows where the money's going to
come from to pay for all of that. So this
is an agenda that would bankrupt the country. In my opinion.
And we already you know that fiscal year just ended
last week for fiscal year twenty twenty four and October
first with the start of the new year, and we

(56:57):
ran a two trillion dollar deficit in a year that
you know, the economy performed pretty well, and we still
ran a two tillion dollar depth sit. I mean, you
know this when you were in the legislature. You can't
just keep bowing and borrowing and bowing and bowing every year.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
It's exactly right. Mean, there's a weird thing going on here,
I swear. And this is why I want to ask
you and you tell me if I'm reading too much
into this. I think this open border issue, I think
it is created every state as a border. It makes
every state feel like a border state, including our state.
We are dealing with with with immigration Venezuelan and immigrants
that are really hitting our hitting things hard. But what

(57:31):
does that mean? That means public safety is being strained,
Jobs are being We have callers that call in and
talk about this, these second jobs and jobs that they're
having a hard time being able to find. Housing is
influenced education. We have these people kids coming with individual
education plans that are wiping out and ignoring all of
our kids because there isn't an infrastructure in our schools.
Is our economics, This all comes down to kitchen table economics.

(57:54):
Is the border and our economic condition just hand and
glove the same issue in this twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 22 (58:02):
Yeah, they do overlap. And people you're you know, you're
so right that people are disgusted by the fact that
we have about you know, we don't know the exact number,
somewhere between ten and twelve fifteen million illegal immigrants. And
by the way, just think about this a funeral. Even
only you know, ten percent of those people illegally vote,
it could have a dramatic impact on the outcome of
the election. Gee, I wonder if that's one of the

(58:23):
reasons that we want to let them in.

Speaker 8 (58:25):
But you know, the other.

Speaker 22 (58:26):
Problem is we do need immigrant workers in this country,
I like every country who have a declining birth rate.
You know, as I just mentioned, eighty million of us
who are baby we're going to retire. But they have
to come in the right way. They have to come
in through the legal channels. And you know, so I
think when Trump comes in, I know this, everyone knows
what I am saying now is true. He's going to
exceal the border. He's going to get that border secure.

(58:48):
I think it might take him three or four months,
but we're not going to have hundreds of thousands of
people coming over the border every day illegally. And then
once we do that, maybe we can talk about how
do we get the immigrants in this country we need.
I mean, immigrants are great benefit to our country, but
they got to come in the right way.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
Steve. It's so all right, Steve, thanks for joining us tonight. Steve.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
More economists, Freedom works. He calls himself the economist extraordinaiy
topic and I'm a good advisors.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I love that he's our inside guy. I see him
on Fox News. I see him all the time. But
we get we have him yep, almost every week.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
Well, and what he said, you know, first of all,
we'll seal the border. Then let's figure out a way
what do we do with all the ten I saw
a new number today, fourteen million illegal aliens have come
into this country during the Biden administration. Yep, we got
to figure out what to do with them. Then we
need to figure out and plan to deal with migrants
as well. You know who are the migrants that we
need to come into this country and bring their talent

(59:41):
and their intellect into this country.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
We need to do that.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
And here's the thing. I've said this for years. I
believe in a tall wall and a wide gate. And
what I mean by the why gate is that it's
almost insane if you look at some of the immigration laws,
how prohibitive they are. They almost beg people to just
simply walk across or try to because they make it
almost impossible. There are ways to do this in a
smart way. They don't become citizens, they be they can

(01:00:05):
be here for whatever a period of time, or there's
there's just ways to do it and be smart about it.
But for some reason it's ignored. We don't have a
smart way or an efficient way over here. And then
they're just letting them come in illegally, which doesn't work either.
So I do think there's I do think a present
like Trump and a leader like Trump can make some
sense of that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:24):
Sure do hope.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
So all right, mare coming up, Rod and Greg with
you here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine KNRS.
Got an interesting email during the show, Greg, I want
to share with this. I just heard today a story
from you about a crazy lady possibly in the avenues.
We don't know that for sure, screaming to a neighbor
about the Trump sign. Is that video available? Unfortunately it

(01:00:50):
sounded like my sister. Now, if you haven't heard this,
you haven't seen the video. We have the audio drop
from this video. But this woman, you know it said she,
you know, possibly in the avenues. We can't confirm that,
but she saw a home with a Trump van sign
in front of it and went ballistic and decided to
confront the homeowner.

Speaker 16 (01:01:11):
Firt to know how you can vote.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
We can't answer the door right now, but if you'd
like to leave a message, you can do it now.

Speaker 11 (01:01:18):
Are you the one that walks by here and always
screaming with people?

Speaker 12 (01:01:22):
No, I haven't wanted okay, people want of people walk
by and scream. Yeah, I'm not suppose.

Speaker 13 (01:01:28):
You are voting for the devil?

Speaker 18 (01:01:30):
Don't you knows that?

Speaker 14 (01:01:32):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:01:33):
Why are you voting for him? Because I believe he
is a moral candidate. Oh my god, thank you for
that one. That's how your side acts alone in your opinion.
That's why. Yeah, I'm sorry, have a.

Speaker 4 (01:01:53):
Nice day, Have a nice day.

Speaker 11 (01:01:55):
God bless you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
There's a rot old lady, give her a bird and everything.
It's just so bad.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Oh, that video is out there, you can find it
on it somewhere, but it is hilarious. And you and
I were both wondering because it came across yesterday and
there was you know, a little message about this video
saying this either this happened in the avenues or this
could happen in the avenues. So at first we were
assuming it was in the Salt Lake City avenues area.

(01:02:28):
We can't confirm that. We don't know that for we
wish we did. I can't which we would confirm it
because I'm told, you go up in the avenues in
Salt Lake City, all you see are Harris Waltz yeah signs,
So you don't see many trumps.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
But it is so quintessential that they on the moral grounds.
They're gonna f bomb that poor woman that answers the
door and you're gonna give her the fingers, gonna yell
about that that he's not moral as they just do
things that would not further their points. Yeah, you know, so, Yeah,
I just think that that that video kind of sums
it up a little bit. The discussion we've had today

(01:03:02):
and the disconnect that's going on.

Speaker 16 (01:03:04):
Strangely, do you think she suffers from Trump derangement syndrome? Yes,
you have a touch of this pretty bad, yeah syndrome.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Yah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Who thinks that their opinion is smart, good enough they
can just walk up to someone's door. She did and
just knocked on the door and just brate them.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
That's what she did.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
This. I mean, how do people again I said this,
how do they navigate that long in life with that
kind of arrogance and ignorance and their placed in this world? Like,
did they think that that is acceptable behavior? Have you
ever put a political sign in your yard? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
I mean for you certainly forgot the legislative seats?

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Have you put them in? Have only done it once?
And Mike Lee asked me, so would you put a
sign in the art That's sure? Yeah, five years ago
I put a sign in there for Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
I've put a sign in many times. Yeah, I have.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
You are one of those political guys.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I like it. I love it. I call them flowers
of democracy, Okay, I just think is it flowers of
a democratic republic democ? They just come from the ground,
they rise up from the ground and they and they
just say vote for me. And I'm telling you this
as a candidate. Every single neighborhood has what I call
opinion leaders, who do the people that track this, They

(01:04:16):
track the issues and all the other people in that
neighborhood they watch for that yard to see what signs
show up, because that's their tell. That's where they're going
to go. If you know those opinion leaders, that's the
that is pretty important.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
It is all right, more coming up final a half
hour there rodding Greg show right here on Utah's Talk
Radio one oh five nine k NRS.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Violent J, a member of the rap group Insane Clown Posse.
Uh is all in for Kamala Harris Good who was
that Violent Jay?

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Violent? Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Now he was in twenty seventeen. He was protesting that
he and his fans or fans of the Insane Clown
Posse were described by the FBI as a loosely organ
andized hybrid gang. Okay, so they were, they were, so
they you know, if he's a victim of a law
fair then why is he with Kamala now? But Violin

(01:05:09):
J from the Insane Clown Posse and if you see,
I don't know if clowns freak you out. But they
wear these clown faces. It looks a little freaky. But yeah.
Violin J from Sane Clown Posse Is has endorsed Kamala Harris.
So big news, big news.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
You don't know why he did that because of her
sterling performance last night at the CNN TWN HLL.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I think it's I think it was a tipping point
for him. I mean, he's just he's all enough.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
What's so great?

Speaker 3 (01:05:37):
I think when I see Insane Clown Posse, I think
Jeff Flake, I see I see these two as like
ideological soulmates, Romney Liz Cheney. Let's get them all with,
Let's get Adam Kissinger, let's get them all get with
the Insane Clown Posse. I think they're all just kind
of that, you know, just cut from that same club.

Speaker 2 (01:05:54):
So they're part of the posse.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, they're Insane Clown Posse. We it's growing. It was
a two member band. We got members for him. They're
all seeing it the same, you know, because they're all
very you know, they're very in tune. Yeah, and they're
very sensitive to the spiritual things of which Kamala Harris
is going to pursue for them.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yes, yes, Well, speaking of Kamala, we mentioned the town
hall meeting last night. Many people were hoping that she
would use this town hall to close the deal and
to convince the American people and to show the American people,
because she is so good on her feet, that she
can answer their questions. Now, this meeting I thought was interesting, Greg.
This was in front of a group of undecided okay,

(01:06:36):
and they were allowed to ask questions, not like the
town hall a few nights ago where Maria Shriver said, well,
if I'll just think about the questions that you haven't
asked of them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
But they were to think she is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
So smart, she read people's mind. But last night they
actually were able to get up and ask her questions.
Apparently she didn't do very well, even the commentators. We've
got a montage here of the commentators on CNN last
night reacting to how she did during the town hall.

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
When she doesn't want to answer a question, her habit
is to kind of go to world word salad city,
and she did that on a couple of answers. One
was on Israel. Anderson asked a direct question, would you
be stronger on Israel than Trump, and there was a
seven minute answer, but none of it related to the
question he was asking.

Speaker 23 (01:07:25):
She doesn't have to be flawless, but she has to
give you something. I mean, she's like a true double
for it. You know, she's terrible on her feet when
she gets unexpected questions, and simultaneously she can't even answer
the expected questions. It's nothing, nothing, nothing. You think she'd
be prepared to do this by now. You know, what's
a mistake you've made?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Nothing? What's the weakness you have? Nothing? What's the first
law you want to pass? Nothing?

Speaker 23 (01:07:47):
What's a policy difference between you and Joe Biden?

Speaker 2 (01:07:50):
Nothing?

Speaker 23 (01:07:50):
Over and over and over.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
Empty, empty, empty.

Speaker 23 (01:07:54):
If she were an animal, she'd be a duck. Build platitude.

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
It's a world.

Speaker 14 (01:08:00):
Because a lot more on Donald Trump, I think it's
fair to say than she did on many specifics in
terms of what she would do as president. But she
did go into some of her plans for small businesses.

Speaker 10 (01:08:13):
Well, I'll just tell you what I'm hearing from people
who I have been talking to, and that is that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
If her goal was.

Speaker 10 (01:08:22):
To close the deal, they're not sure she did that.
And some people have asked, is she being held to
a different standard maybe, but that's maybe the world that
she's living in. And on the question of who she is,
people are understanding that a little bit more. But what
she will do. The question about her legislative priorities name one,

(01:08:44):
there wasn't one.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I think that the word solid stuff gets on my nerves.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
I think that some of the evasions are not necessary.

Speaker 11 (01:08:51):
But when she's talking about trying to get you a house,
I believe her.

Speaker 24 (01:08:57):
Kabla Harris participated in one person debate last night and
she lost. Okay, she was asked direct questions and she
provided very circular answers. Uh are My colleagues Van Jones
and David Axelrod and others noted that, you know, she
provided word salad answers, and you know Andrews would ask
her specifically direct questions and she didn't provide an answer to them.

(01:09:19):
She when asked Andrews had asked the best question all night,
why didn't you do this four years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
Why haven't you been doing this?

Speaker 24 (01:09:25):
Ten minute answer didn't answer the question. So what she
did last night I don't think helped her cause at all.
I think people were looking for, you know, how are
you gonna you heard the one woman, How are you
gonna make my life better? That wasn't provided Donald Trump?
Bad is not going to get you to the White House.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I hate to break it to her.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah, and that's a great that's a great comment. You
heard people like David Axelrod, Van Jones, Scott Jennings, Dana
Bash all basically bashing Kamala last night for a very
ineffective town hall Greg, she can't do it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:56):
So what's happening here? I don't understand. I don't under
stand that they are actually that Axelrod, Dana Bash, Van Jones,
that they would have one negative thing to say about her.
What is happening here? I don't understand what's going on.
I don't trust them to turn to become journalists or
even have a fair take. What Why are they saying

(01:10:16):
these things?

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Because they ain't got anything else to say? I mean,
what positive could they say about her?

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
We couldn't say anything positive about Biden, and they seem
to just gloss over it and say he's fine, he's
sharp as attack when we saw that he wasn't. I
am just, I just I have post traumatic syndrome or
Stockholm syndrome. I don't know what it is battered spouse syndrome.
I don't know. But all I know is I don't
under when I hear CNN from the left, not not
Scott what's his name, that Jennings, Jennings, not him, but

(01:10:45):
the others saying she didn't she didn't carry the day.
I just I can't believe I'm hearing him say it.
I don't know what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Well, maybe they're kissing the face of reality.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
I guess. I yeah, if you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Confuse, if you listen, then I spend some time today
listening to that town hall and some of the answers
that she gave. She cannot answer a question greg a
simple yes or no question, She can't answer it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
She won't answer it. She's very good at the filibuster answer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
But what I would think that the left would like
is that they don't have any intention of her running
the country, like they didn't have any intention of Biden
running the country. They like them just being figureheads. So
you'd think that would they would play along and pretend
that what she said and what she was doing was great,
because she's clearly showing she doesn't have it should be
a disqualifier that you can't answer these basic questions. If

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you want to lead this nation as the commander in chief,
it should just be an immediate disqualification. And I would
think in normal times that would be the case, but
right now it's not. But they're actually really honing in
on this. Anderson Cooper asked her, I thought was playing
journalists for some of these asking hard questions that the
takeaways afterwards were tough. I don't understand what's happening. I

(01:11:59):
don't get it all right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
More coming up right with you to US Talk Radio
one O five to nine k NRS.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Before we before we left for the break, I was
just thinking out loud and questioning out loud, what in
the world's going on with CNN A listener send a
message that I think is right. So uh, looking at
what happened with sixty minutes and how they refuse to
release the transcript and all the comments that are going
to and we still haven't done it. A lot of

(01:12:26):
a lot of the bad behavior of the media that's
gotten a lot more exposure this time around, looking at
what the DOJ has been doing. If if Trump wins,
there's a lot of there's going to be a come
up and for a lot of these organizations, and the
listener thinks that CNN is trying to cover their tail
a little bit and trying to look a little more objective,
because there's going to be, uh there's going to be

(01:12:49):
a little bit of a scrutiny paid to this uh
real collusion it's been going on between the Democrats, the
White House, the federal government, and these news organs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
You know, I don't think it will bother Donald Trump
because I don't think he's afraid to confront anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
And if they want to attack.

Speaker 1 (01:13:05):
Him from NBC or ABC or seven, he's going to
stand up to him.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
He'll stand Now.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
He may not be doing interviews with him now, but
when he becomes president, he's not afraid of these people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
He'll have good questions.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
And we had to take a mental note. I don't
want to get ahead of ourselves. But if there are
if we if we go back to those press conferences
that he does with the with the meet with the
White House press pool, I mean, if you remember Acosta,
that guy was just I mean they were just so
aggressive and argumentative, and you never saw any of that
in the last four years. You saw it. You saw
Peter Deucy, that would ask hard questions. But for the

(01:13:36):
most part, you know, he was ostracized for it. But
but let's let's watch what if that, if that, if
we have the occasion to see those moments again, watch
the difference. And I think, and again, like you said,
Trump won't be afraid, but I think they're going to
try and be as bond. They will trying to be
as aggressive and as confrontational as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
But let me tell you what, Graig, if and this
may happen, I mean one of the I think it
was Harry Entton at CNN today said he thinks there's
a possibility and he's not sure which candidate would do it,
but they would sweep every one of the swing states.
He said, there's a possibility that one of these candidates
could swing all what seven of them?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Now, if that's the case, let's say Donald Trump goes
into the White House, what with three hundred and twelve
electoral votes right, A key indicator. It was a message
from the American people that we want this guy. Okay,
the question is then how does the media treat him?

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Well, you know what, and I'll tell you what I
don't think they'd ever have a I don't think they
have a scentilla of fairness inside their bodies. But what
they do have, I'll bet you because I've seen some
interesting coverage about Scott Jennings and how they like they
actually don't dislike him at that network, which is as
far as he is, as hard as he pushes on
the other side, and being by himself a lot, you'd

(01:14:53):
think he'd be the pariah of CNN. I'll bet you
that they're seeing better ratings because you're getting another They're
hearing another side, and it might be drawing more attention
to that station. So if they get if they see
their ratings grow by trying to have some you know,
some fairness to it, you might see that be the
motivation to treat them differently, treat them fair.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
It all goes back to this money. Yeah, they get.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
Higher ratings, that means more money for their advertising dollars.
And that's what every one of these companies, including this
company that we worked for. Yes, it's about the money away, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
And look, I think that it's kind of a segue
brought into this into this, and that is it used
to be that everybody got the sheet music and they
would sing okay, all the voting blocks. If it was
a Latino, if it was minority groups, if it was
it was union, you name it. The Philadelphia firefighters rescinding
their endorsement and going with with the Republican in Pennsylvania

(01:15:50):
is a tell that are thinking for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That does up for us tonight, Head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family. Thanks for joining us.
We're back tomorrow at four

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