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October 22, 2024 82 mins
Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Tuesday, October 22, 2024

4:20 pm: Matty Altmyer, aka Cousin Matty, a Pennsylvania resident, joins Rod and Greg for a conversation about the latest he’s hearing from customers about the Presidential election at the drive-thru beer store.   

5:05 pm: Desiree Hennessy of the Utah Patients Coalition joins the show to discuss the results of a poll the shows half of Utah voters support fully legalized recreational marijuana use in the state.

6:05 pm: Tim Anaya of the Pacific Research Institute joins the program to discuss the institute’s latest book, “The California Left Coast Survivor’s Guide,” which aims to stop the leftist “California way” from infecting the rest of the country.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We are all set for election day coverage.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm not. I haven't decided yet.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Well, you haven't decided who you're going to vote for.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
How we're covering it? I know.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Are you going to be around on elections?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
A command center? I get it. We've got, you've got,
we have. We can put every network we can have,
we can have live feeds of every every state coming in. However,
I feel like we're not the epicenter of the of
the race. If we're not at the party, I don't know.
We want to be able to vote.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
You are starting off today the way you were yesterday.
You were crabby. Yes, I was not crabby yesterday. So
many people send me an email and they're saying, what
is wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
That is not true. You didn't hear any of that.
You heard you heard interrupt more and apologize that that's
what you heard. Yeah, sometimes people deserve it.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Yeah, we have got a great show lined up for
you today. We're going to go to our Pennsylvania political correspondent.
That's right, because Matt Matt will be joining us. He
will he will get the beast, we'll get any a
read from Matt uh as to what's going on with
voters in Pennsylvania. All great to talk to Matt a
little bit later on new poll out about legalizing marijuana

(01:15):
here in the state of Utah and recreational use. We'll
talk about that. There's a brand new book out called
The Left Coast Survivor's Guide, How we survive Utah becoming California,
and we hope it never happens.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It cannot happen. It's gotten a little bit Californish.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
It has a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, yeah, got to get a little.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Bit as well. I want to make your day today.
I want to I want to start you off on
a good note, a happy note.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, good, you're ready for this. Trump's already won. No, Okay,
we aren't there yet. Okay, we're close, I think, but
we aren't there yet. You are constantly complaining about the
brand new Salt Lake City International Airport. Yeah it's a disgrace. Yeah,
it is a disgrace.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Gold back back. Just because we.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Were pioneers doesn't make us pioneers. There's not the great planes.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
We have to walk because of the walk you have
to take to get over to Concords, and you complain
it's a long walk.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
What's unfair to elderly people, mothers and me.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, okay, and you Well, the the new concourse open today.
The walk has been cut in half. So it's a
mile now, No, it's less than a mile now.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
It would be a mile. It's like a two mile walk.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, but that's good before you get on a plane,
isn't it. You want to you want to get the
circulation going.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
If you're talking about this, is there a train you
get on, like a tram or something like every other
half were going to do that. Well, yeah, that was
when I look, when I was there, that was you know,
back in the good old days time out building it.
They said there was gonna be a there was gonna
be a tram connecting these these gates, and then they
made you just walk it like it's very inhumane.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well it's going to cut the journey in half. Does
that help at all?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, yes, it helps, but it's still walking. Is still
in the fence. I think we have one of the
coolest looking airports really, like I don't spend time and
I'll for a bit if you ever drive there. You've
heard me say, if you go into their structured parking,
the corkscrew thing you do just look at the side
one time when you do that and the paint they
just scraped across because they made it so tiny to

(03:15):
come in and out of there.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
That's because Utah's don't know how to drive, always want
to get out too fast.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
A bunch of liberals made that thing like we're all
driving the little tiny cars.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
See.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I couldn't even make you happy today with this good
news about the.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Air because I just don't think it's I'd have to
out to try it first.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
You have to try it and then report back to it.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I will, and I will to our listeners, not to you,
but to our listeners.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Good good, all right, it's we are a team LINEUS
fourteen days in counting less than that now. And oh, Greg,
a lot of quays I saw this story today about
has she given up? I mean there's there are stories
out there starting to circulate. Has she now given up?
Or the Democrats given up and are now focused on
keeping the Senate and possibly winning the House?

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well there has well, there has been. It's not even
a theory, it's for fact. There has been a departure
amongst the Democrats statewide. US Senate races in swing in
some of these you know these blue Wall swing states
of Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, they have broken ranks away from
the Harris Walls campaign. They are now running ads aligning

(04:18):
as Democrats with President Trump and his trade policies and
in his economic policies. That is not good news for
the Harris campaign. That does not make a stronger Harris
Walls campaign when you're statewide Democrat, senators are are pivoting
away from you. And two the Republican you know, candidate
for president. So that that has to be And in

(04:42):
the Cook report just put like Casey, Bob Casey running
for re election for Senate in Pennsylvania as a toss up,
and he was up by like twenty points not long ago.
So we can see for fact that her campaign is
going in the wrong direction. It's just to what degree.
And I still we all worry about the same. You know,
it's just a little bit of English on it. You know,

(05:02):
we only had thumbs on a scale. We need to
make sure transparency is high, and then we've got to
be too big to rig. We just got to have
the numbers that have just been otherworldly in terms of
we just come out in so many with so many
votes they can't they can't change it.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah. Well, you've had Harris not showing up with the
Al Smith dinner. She's still getting criticism for that. Had
the story of her yelling at her staff that they
didn't have her go to the dinner. Yes, you've got
that going on. The comment about Jesus's Lord and she said,
now you're in the wrong rally. I mean, that hasn't
helped her out at all. And then today, Greg, I mean,
we're fourteen days away, and what is she doing today?

(05:38):
She's in Washington doing interviews with Univision and NBC. She's
taking the time because she has to prep for those interviews.
She can't just sit down and do those interviews. I mean,
it's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Trump can do four events in eight speeches and six
interviews inside of a counter inside of a day from
more Easy, Yeah, you can do all of that in
one day.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah. Well, newsback. Political analyst Mark Halpern, who's been so
spot on during this campaign, basically was interviewed this morning
and says a lot of Democrats are scratching their head
asking themselves, what on earth is she doing?

Speaker 4 (06:14):
Look, if she loses, there'll be a lot of second
guessing of all sorts of decisions they made, and one
of them will be what has been a light schedule
if she thinks she's ahead and her campaign doesn't think
she's ahead. But if they thought she was ahead, you
could say she's running at the clock. But she's not ahead,
and so it's a choice they're making. I think a
lot of it has to do with the amount of

(06:35):
preparation time she wants and requires for the interview she's
doing today for the town hall. She is coming out,
but there is head scratching amongst Democrats. Two weeks to go,
someone who's fighting for the presidency, and she's spending the
day in Washington.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, I mean she spending the day in Washington, Greg,
shouldn't she be out on the campaign trail? I mean,
with a race as tight as it is, you're two
weeks away, can you be out gripping and grinnin instead
of doing interviews with friendly networks? One would think, one
would think, right would think when you think, I don't know,
I don't get it. I don't I don't know what

(07:11):
the kids are doing nowadays. I don't get it. I
don't get what the kids are doing. But campaigns usually
mean you are just out there and you're grinning and
gripping those handshakes. You're just you're you're just running hair
on fire. But look, there's a reason she avoided the
interviews all along. If she's going to have them, she's
got to get very prepared because she hasn't had a
I don't think she's had a decent one yet. And

(07:32):
then the question that's already lingering, I think there's a hill.
I got to look this up in one of our breaks,
a hill story from hill, you know the hill. The
publication is Kamala Harris actually stronger than Biden?

Speaker 2 (07:44):
They're starting to ask. Now, they're starting to ask, now,
did we make the right decision booting the old guy
because the new one there's not much she's not showing
on that quarter turn, she's dropping back.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
Well, here's another one critical of Kamala Harris, Chris Cuomo,
who's the New News Nation host. He says, we don't
even like her. Why are we voting for hi?

Speaker 5 (08:08):
Kamala Harris is not a godsend, all right. You people
didn't even like her six months ago. Now all of
a sudden, she's a black female. Jesus douy Obama was
black Jesus. And let me tell you something. He had
a lot more going for him than Kamala Harris does,
and not just as first go, but his type of campaigning,

(08:29):
his type of persuasion, his charisma. Okay, he was imbued
with things that she is not. And I don't mean
that as a criticism, it's just a point of comparison.
But look this idea of don't say anything bad about
her because Trump. I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
And it's not how you get to a better place.
It's a relative assessment. She has negatives, so does he?

(08:50):
Does he have more?

Speaker 1 (08:52):
Yeah? He also has a way more intense following. That's
why this race is so tight. He has a very
intense following. There's no doubt about it. And I come
back to the point that he made. There are people
who don't like Kamala Harris. She's facing the same thing
that Hillary faced in twenty sixteen. Greg people didn't like her.
You got to hope for someone you kind of like,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's right. I still think that people fundamentally misunderstand Trump's
support and it's like the New York Times, they just
can't get over this trip to McDonald's on a Sunday.
They just they're making it a four day story because
now they've talked to people that worked at McDonald's and
officials form McDonald's and say he actually held the French
fry box wrong, he had it backwards. This is breaking news,

(09:34):
folks from the New York Times. They've done an investigative
piece on how and he threw the salt over his
shoulder for luck. Well, that is an inefficient use of
salt at McDonald's and a good manager wouldn't appreciate the
waste of salt. That's a straight I'm not even being
that's not a Saturday Night Live skit. That's in the
New York Times today. They're stretching that out and they're

(09:55):
reporting on that as if that's real news. And I
think the American people when they see this is like
a parody of itself. It's not even real. And so
that's not a good sign. And they help him. I mean,
if he was an antagonist to anyone, he's not really
now because the whole world goes against him in comical ways.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
So all right, when we come back on the Rod
and Gregg Show, we'll go to our special political correspondent
in Pennsylvania, Gregg Gregg's cousin who's going to join us,
and it's an update on what's going on in the
great state of Pennsylvania. It is you gotta win Pennsylvania
if you want to get to the White.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I think I don't think wins without that. That state
is the pathway to the president.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
It sure is, and we'll go there live coming up.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So joining us because look, I'm going to tell you
all roads of the presidency lead through Pennsylvania. And if
you're gonna win Pennsylvania, you're gonna win Central Pennsylvania, all
the rural counties, you're gonna win. Forget Philly as a hole,
You're not gonna get anything in there. Southwest Pennsylvania is
the gateway. And in southwest Pennsylvania, in Pittsburgh, we have
our Pittsburgh correspondent. The person who's going to tell us

(11:01):
if Trump or Harris is going to win this race,
my cousin, Matt Matty from mctie's Discount beer outlet. Now
let me tell you, Matt, he's been been managing and
running for Pat mctie. This, I mean, this is like, yeah,
this is like Nirvan. This is where everybody. So Pittsburgh.
I've told the listeners before, it's a drinking town with
a football problem. Okay, so everyone, and so this becomes

(11:22):
the greatest, you know, focus group you'll ever have because
every demographic soccer moms, construction workers, union members, attorneys, doctors,
everyone comes through. They all get their beer. There there
to hear their stories, to ask them inquisitive questions and
kind of get a pulse of what's happening on the ground.
Is my cousin, Matt, Matt, welcome to the to the

(11:44):
Rotten Greg show.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Tell you guys for having That's quite an introduction.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Is now listen, We're not done because you know mcti's
is on the map and mc tie you're you know
mcti's Pat mctiye, he's He is a highly sought after
endorsement people want if they're gonna do anything in Pennsylvania,
they want Pat mctie's uh endorsement. And this is proof
of it right here. We gotta copy of.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
This, Hey, Pat mctye, Donald Trump Junior.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Here Matt's cousin, my good friend Greg says, we can't
win Pittsburgh without you.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
So I'm done in the sweatshirt.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Today.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
We gotta win Pennsylvania so we can make bread through
beer great again. Have a go one man, Thanks Leving.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
What did you think of that, Matt? That's quite that's
quite a trivia, quite a challenge. That was a surprise
text the love it. Yeah, yeah, all right, all right, Matt,
give us give us your take as to where things
stand as you talk to people coming through your business.
What what's your sense right now? Two weeks out, Matt,

(12:49):
when it comes to Pennsylvania, they're much.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
More energized than they were the last time we talked.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
They're pretty excited.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
We were talking about Trump wasn't gonna many ads and
just letting them get their fill of Kamala, and I
think they got their fill of earth. They're like, man,
we cannot take four years of listening to this. They
think it's not that media blast that blasts are out
of the race.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
I think, really that's interesting, so you you probably go ahead.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
They just listen. They thought it was nonsense. A lot
of guys are saying they're saying, we really we thought
it was a joke before, but we really think she
is drinking a lot at the someone that can't handle
her alcohol.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Looks like, so you're very it's a very popular drive through.
It's very popular place. It's so you get to know
your customers. These aren't just strangers, and so you probably
sense their politics without actually having to ask. I'm interested
in the Democrat. So someone that you've known for a
long time, it's a good customer that's kind of been
your your your dependable Democrat or Democrats? What are they

(13:58):
are they hanging tight with her? Because maybe it's the
independent voters or those that are just common sense they
hate politics, don't trust politicians. So but they're gonna get
involved in this race, maybe maybe vote for Trump or not.
But what about your Democrat customers? You get in any
sense from those that are dying old Democrats how they
feel about Kamala right now?

Speaker 7 (14:17):
Yeah, I had a kind of the uh, the black
male Democratic vote. They're telling me, hey man, at home,
we're telling our our wives and our girlfriends that we're
gonna vote for Kamala.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
But but we're lying with that.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
They just they can't do it, they can't see it,
like it just doesn't make any sense. And that seems
to be across the board with the guys that are
working with and uh, yeah, she's suffering bad.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
With the mail vote. Now do they say that, Matt,
without having a beer, or do they say that after
they have three or four beers?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
They say that right after work, so could be Matt.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I want I want to ask you this question. By
the type of beer they buy, can you tell a
Democrat from a Republican?

Speaker 7 (15:06):
No, really, not at all, not at all. Maybe the
younger ones, they might be a little more indecisive.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
They might be buying more.

Speaker 7 (15:17):
They like, they like to change it up. They just
want something different all the time. So yeah, I kind
of maybe the younger, but the older they're.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
All Producer Era says that Democrats drink seltzer. They said
they don't even they don't even like beer. Is that true?

Speaker 8 (15:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:32):
They do. But also the the frat boys like it too.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
That are all mega Okay, all right, all right, man,
I wanted to ask you, of course, you're being bombarded
with political ads right now. What is your take on
how the local media is reporting this real type battle
your various television stations. Are they fair? Are they leaning
toward Kamala? What sense do you have in the in

(15:55):
that regard, Matt.

Speaker 7 (15:58):
They're leaning towards Kamala, but they're they're not reporting on
what she's doing a lot. It's more of the same
thing that she's doing, which is just showing Trump in
a little bit more negative of a light. But a
lot of people were surprised they went to the Steeler
game Sunday night of how little they covered the reaction
he got by being at the game, Like they tried

(16:18):
to totally hide that.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
And it was good. It was positive, was it not?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
It was very positive.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
There's a huge usa chance.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
They said there.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Were Maga hats everywhere during the tailgating in the stadium.
You know that they they were just trying to hide that.
There was actually a statement from the Steelers saying that
he came privately on his own ticket. We did not
provide him with a with a box, which everybody was
offended by that. Why did they feel the need to
say that, Like we kind of knew that, you know,
there are in times with at least back when Obama

(16:47):
was there. I think that they were doing run Ambassador
Island or something. But anyhow, Yeah, they they're they're kind
of like hiding the excitement more than you know, propping
up Kamala. They're kind of trying to damper them. That's
coming out lately.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
But Trump, So in twenty sixteen out you said that
the that that you felt like, if it's ever a
Republican that that people in southwest Pennsylvania would vote for
in the Republican side, it was going to be Trump.
You felt good about his campaign early on. Do you
have a feeling do you have a sense of things
two weeks out where this is going to go in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 (17:21):
Yeah, it seems like they're they're pretty excited to vote
for Trump. Wowan, which is like a month ago. I
wouldn't have said that. I would just said there was
no excitement. People didn't want to talk about it. And
it's been very odd just the last couple of weeks.
That's just they're getting excited, they're getting fired up. They're
just they want to talk about it. They're making fun
of them all, you know, a lot of people they

(17:41):
love and I was surprised that people even watched the
Al Smith dinner. But yeah, that Chuck Shimmer joke is
running like crazy through Pennsylvania where he said that with
the way that party's going, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
He could be the first one president.

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Yes, Yeah, that's a joke, but also they said that
shows how much of that party is.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
Well, well, Matt, Matt, it's always great chatting with you.
I think we'll check in with you one week from
today again for the final week, if that's all right
with you, Matt. Yea, all right, Matt, thanks man, appreciate
your time.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
Yeah, he did a good joke. He's good corresponding. Yes,
he doesn't need any training.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm telling you. Get you and I got to take
a trip back there.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
It's a great it's a great little stablish for you.
Never get out of your car. You literally drive into
this big you drive in.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Yeah. All right, more coming up, Rod and Greg with
you on this Tuesday and Talk Radio one O five
nine k n R S Monday November four, six pm.
We're gonna have some fun. We call it Rod and
Gregg's Minute to Win It, and we give any candidate
that calls in.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Do I get a buzzer?

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Can I we have we have a buzzer?

Speaker 2 (18:49):
No, I mean early, like.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You can't buzz them early? Well, we do have one minute.
We call it Rod and Gregg's Minute to Win It.
You call in, We'll give you one minute.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
If I hate their message.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Well you can't. This is not judgmental, this is allow. Yeah,
there it is. We should put one of these on you.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
I just if a Democrat calls and I and I hear,
I might just have to buzz them at fifteen seconds
in because I won't be able to take it.

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Well. That is coming up on election Eve Monday.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
The fourth rod Yes, breaking news, Yes, New York Times
investigation reveals that Trump's role and Home Alone two was staged. Okay,
that wasn't the New York Times, that would have been
Babylon B. But it's about the same.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It's about the.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Same journalism integrity. So yeah, yeah, it was his appearance
on Home Loan two. Turns out paid actors around him
might not have been a genuine moment speatween him.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
And interesting news coming out of Los Angeles today, very yeah,
this is is very very interesting out of LA today.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
First time in twenty years. Wow, Los Angeles Times is
refusing to a presidential candidate, first time in twenty years now,
when they refuse to that's as good as an endorsement
for some thought. J Trump. I'm going to tell you
right now that that is where she lives. Yeah, that's
her hometown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's not it.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Apparently the owner of the La Times, so we are
ended seeing anybody in this race. Wow? Yeah, so the
owner the owners stepped in said, eh.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
So the La Times they are joining the Teamsters, the
Fire Firefighters Union, and many others that have decided that
they are either going to not endorse or endorse Trump.
So again, not great news to have, uh, to have
the La Times take a pass, a hard pass.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Have you ever been to a town hall where the
people at the town hall can't ask questions?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Nope, that wouldn't be a town hall.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, that wouldn't be Well. Yesterday Maria Shriver, along with
Kamala Harrison and Liz Cheney held a town hall and
at the beginning, someone decided to ask Maria Schriver, Hey,
can we ask questions you're not?

Speaker 5 (20:57):
Unfortunately, we have some preterm questions, and I hopefully I'll
be able to ask some of the questions that might
be in your head.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I hope, So.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
We hope to ask questions that were in your head?

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Thanks a lot. Was she clairvoyant? Does she have that
talent going for?

Speaker 1 (21:12):
You know? I can't understand why ConA Harris is hooking
up with Liz Cheney. I mean, Liz Cheney is what
is it? I mean you got to hear this, Greg
This is Chris Matthews. Remember the guy who got a
what a chill up his leg or something? You want?
He heard Obama. Listen to his praise of Liz Cheney today.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
She is a character almost out of the movies that
have a man for all seasons. I've never seen a
more heroic figure than Liz Cheney. She lost her her
state probably forever, she lost her party, she lost her
leadership in the Republican House. She could have been on
her way to speaker. It was very probable. She gave

(21:51):
it all way in the interest of truth. That's what
she stood for. It's amazing to me how few people
have gotten behind her. But now one person that's got
behind her is Kamala Harris. And those sitting together, those
two women, as you say, on that stage, is remarkable.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
What are they calling this tone hall meetings aroundable?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's a round table of women who's remember Murray Shreiver
and yeah, and Kamala Harris. It's a round table of
women whose husbands knocked up their nannies.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
Oops.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
That's awkward. They have that in common. I wonder if
they talked about that.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I bet not.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I'll bet not. I bet you that was the elephant
in the room.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
But it did not. Kamala has a brand new pro
man ad out.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
He said, it just takes me laugh. I don't even
know what it just makes me laugh when you say
it because I think of the last dad and it's
a bit humorous.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
Yeah. Well, the ad basically uh pitches. It's a pitch
to men to vote for Kamala and she will help
your daughter destroy your bloodline. The ad features Ben Stiller, Bravo, port,
Andy Cohen, and of course the second Gentleman, Doug Elmaha.

(23:05):
Are you ready to hear this thing?

Speaker 2 (23:06):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (23:07):
He it Kamala's new pro man ad.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
I love how much smarter she is than all the
guys in the room already. I can tell that she's
going to be a powerhouse. She is already at two
and a half.

Speaker 10 (23:18):
My daughter's twenty two and a half.

Speaker 4 (23:21):
Is a feminist, incredibly strong and has really just inspired
me in so many ways.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
I love her.

Speaker 11 (23:28):
I'm the proud dad of Ella over here.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
My vote for Kamala is an investment in my daughter's future.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
I agree.

Speaker 10 (23:36):
I am right there with you.

Speaker 11 (23:37):
When the Dobbs decision came out two plus years ago,
I heard from Kamala right away, and then the next person,
with Ella, she texted me right away, essentially saying, we
need to fight. This is not just an issue for women.
This is an issue for men and families.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
And this is one of the many.

Speaker 11 (23:54):
Many reasons why we've got to elect Kama's president.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Never in my lifetime did I think that we would
be having to fight for this and the fight for
our own bodies. And I think it's really important for
the men to step up and show that they actually
support us and they're willing to put things on the
line to help us.

Speaker 1 (24:11):
Then you better step up.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Why do you think the guy his daughters two and
a half, and she's already smarter than everyone room. Don't
you find it to be patronizing? I just don't. I
just think that that if that's Andy Cohen saying that
he might be right, she might be smarter than that
would be smarter than him. But I find it to
be a totally patronizing thing to say. But the other
issue is these are nice luxury issues to talk about.

(24:37):
People are suffering, their grocery stores are getting panic attacks
in there in terms of the cost go and continuing
to go up your cost of everything, you're housing, your
your your your gas, lean everything. And so yeah, I
don't know that that ad is really hitting on what's
front of mind of voters.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
No, no, no, it's not. It's not. They let Joe
Biden out of the White House today.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Oh they did.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
He went tomp look at him. He went to New Hampshire,
did a little campaign and guess what he said. You'll
love this. He basically is calling for Donald Trump to
be jailed fourteen days before the election. As of today,
he should be jailed. He said, quote, we got to
lock him up.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh okay, then, but you know we're here that that
Trump I want to lock up his political opponents. He
might want to do that as they're trying to lock
him up. And now Joe Biden is screaming to lock
him up. Okay, yeah, that's totally fine. That's about. That's
about par for the course with this campaign.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Have you ever done early voting, No, neither of I
I like to wait until election day.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
So I don't want to. You know, I think there's
a strategy there that I subscribe to. I think people
should vote early so we don't, you know, so that
we're not self limiting our ability to vote all on
one day as a nation. However, I do like the
sticker that says I voted. Yeah, I do too, and
I like to thank the election judges for spending their
time there.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I walk around this building election day. Nobody has those stickers.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yeah, what's up? I I really proudly I will. I'm
excited to get it and I'd like doing it.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Well. I bring this up because can you believe more
than fifteen million Americans have already voted?

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Makes sense a huge number. And apparently Republicans are eating
in to the Democratic Party's early voting advantage right now,
which is good.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It is, it is, And look there, I don't think
there's any way I've seen enough statistics to say that
early voting doesn't tell you who's going to win at
the end of the day. But you have to go
back to the twenty twenty when Maricopa County had problems
with their day of voting machines and they were shut
down for a good number of hours and you saw
lines around the building. That doesn't help if Republicans come

(26:40):
out stronger on the day of I think the number
was plus I don't know, nineteen of some double digit number.
When you have, you know, malfunctions on voting day, that
only hurts or most primarily hurts Donald Trump and Republicans.
So to avoid that as many people that are comfortable
with and can vote. But by the way, in Utah,
if you're listening to this and you're in southern Utah,

(27:02):
you want to draw, you might. It's fine, your ballot
was mailed to you. I wouldn't ask the US Postal
Service to be the administrator of our election. I would
go ahead and drop that a drop box at a
county clerk's office or the designated drop boxes, because they're
taking all your ballots from Beaver County south to Las Vegas,
stamping up and bring them back. That's an eleven day
turnaround for a lot of people. And if you didn't

(27:24):
do it right now, you're gonna you're gonna get outside
that window.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Well, hands on. The person in charge in Washington County said,
if you're going to vote by mail, vote right now. Yes, yeah,
don't wait anil and couple of days because come back,
you might You want to go to the drop boxes.
Can I guess the Utah legislature couldn't do anything about this?
Could they have agbession? But they're gonna have to change
it next time? Can they do that? I mean the
postal service run by the federal government. Can we tell

(27:47):
the Postal Service you cannot take those ballots down to
Vegas and then bring them back.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
You can't, so you need to take them out of it.
So most but actually seventy percent or more of the
ballots that people have mailed to them, they already drop
off at the at the locations. Okay, so more more
voters do it that way than use the US Postal
Service to mail. And and to anyone that says, well
what about the people that live in the rural areas, well,
do it more so because you have the longer route

(28:12):
if you mail it, And how are you voting when
we only had in person voting before now, So it's
not it doesn't have to have barriers. You can participate
and people do. And so anyway, I think you drop
it off at the place.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Well, and I think the message is vote.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Vote everybody and everyone you know about.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Legalizing the recreational marijuana youths in the state of you Zah,
we'll break down the new poll numbers out on that
and help me up on the rotting great show. Stay
with us.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
I can't wait hoping that the right outcome comes, the
wrong want to comes. I can wait for that.

Speaker 12 (28:45):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
I'm not ready for that. Actually I could. I could
just we can slow down time if I knew that
was what was coming.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
It today not out on the campaign trail, and a
lot of people are saying, you know, there's only fourteen
days left. Where are you? Apparently she had to prepare
all day for an interview she did with NBC News today,
so it took her all day, very friendly interview. Yeah,
but by this time, with all you've said out there,
how much time do you really need to prepare for
an interview like that?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Well, she's got to change the trajectory. Everything shows that
it's going in the wrong direction. Something has to change,
and so they got to do something differently than they've
done up till now. And that's probably what they're trying
to find. What can we do differently than we've done
up till now because it's not working. It's not a
party of their joy Joy was a big deal. I
started getting really angry about Trump. That's kind of been

(29:32):
a little scary. Yeah, in terms of just not not
aspirational and so yeah, I think that they are looking
at just different, different approach in.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Two weeks great, I mean, can you turn it around?
And you know, the race is very close, but there
are indications that Trump has picked up some momentum and
there is uh, there's disarray within the within the hair.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I think part of her problem is her team. I
think that's that she inherited Biden's team, and they're already
starting to back by. They're they're leaking to Politico and
other newspapers that they hate each other. And that's never good.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
All right, let's move on to another topic right now.
There is a new public opinion poll out today and
it shows half of Utah's now support fully legalized adult
use recreational use of marijuana in this state. I caught
me by surprise. What about you, I'm surprised by that.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I would have thought that medical cannabis would be the
the that's even now as I thought was a heavy lift.
But medical would I would have thought would be the
most appropriate or that that's where the public sentiment would yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Well, joining us on our newsmaker line to talk about
this right now is Desiree Hennessy. She is with the
Utah Patients Coalition. Desiree, how are you welcome to the
Rod and Greg Show. Great chatting with you.

Speaker 13 (30:44):
I am good, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
You you undertook this poll. The poll was paid for
by your organization. Why did you want to take a
look at this now?

Speaker 10 (30:56):
That's a good question.

Speaker 13 (30:57):
So we have had we've had this program now since
you know, twenty nineteen, and constantly we are finding that
majority of our patients are still shopping outside of the
Utah legal market. They're going out of state or they're
using the illicit market here in the state, and so

(31:18):
trying to figure out why, and it always comes down
to a couple of things, and that's usually cost and accessibility, right,
and cost is the big one. So how do we
the question that became how do we drive down cost?
And that answer is adult use markets. And so the

(31:40):
couple questions we asked was, you know, do you know
that there's a medical cannabis programs here? Did you know
that Utah has one that you could use? And then
what is the temperature for adult use. If so many
people are willing to bypass our medical market and shop
outside of the state, what is the temperature for at

(32:01):
and I just and so, yeah, So we did the poll,
and I was shocked and not shocked at the results.
Because I've been part of this program from the beginning.
I expected our statistics to have raised since the beginning
of the program. In the beginning, you'll remember that our

(32:23):
public support for a rec program is very, very low,
So I figured that that would be raising. I did
not expect it to be fifty percent, but again, kind
of that surprised. What happens when you have a program
like ours that is kind of heavy on regulations. Patients

(32:46):
begin to realize that they like the medication, but they
can find it easier and cheaper other places. And so
what adult use? And this is kind of why we
phrased this question this way. Is what adult youth means
to patients in the medical program? Is it just means accessibility?

(33:07):
Would you be willing to kind of drop quality and
go with something more accessible? And unfortunately the answer was yes.
And that gives us something to reflect on because bottom line,
I don't think that an adult youth program is looked
best for Utah, but but patients are starting to get

(33:28):
fed up with the with the program that they have
to navigate now, and we've got to pause and make
some and fix some mistakes that we've made along the way.

Speaker 12 (33:39):
Is Reech.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
So we've been involved in this. I was when I
was on the clock and a public servant. We work
very hard on this medical cannabis program, and we really
wanted there to be physicians that would learn about the
efficacy of medical cannabis and have pharmacists on hand to
help advise patients and kind of break down some of
the stigma. My question is, what do you think happens

(34:00):
to a medical program that involves a physician, involves a pharmacist.
If we went to a recreational legal and made recreational legal,
what happens to our medical cannabis sector here in the state.

Speaker 13 (34:14):
It would absolutely go away. I mean even in California,
where they have a medical market. I called there once
trying to talk to a friend and guess that like,
I'm trying to talk to a pharmacist for a friend
that had moved out of Utah, and it was a
three month waiting list to even speak to a pharmacist
because all of the money now goes to this adult

(34:35):
use market, right, and so the pharmacists becomes too expensive.
When you can you cannot compete. You a medical market
cannot compete with adult use market. That's why we're struggling
with the states around it. So all of this medical
program would go away, all of the drive to understand
this plant and understands medicinal value, all of that stops

(34:58):
and it becomes a race to the bottom is what
we like to call a race to try to figure
out how to make the cheapest product that will create
a high. And that's what we doesn't we have to understand.
If we don't get control of our medical market and
make it more accessible, then this race to the bottom,
this race to accessibility.

Speaker 10 (35:18):
Is going to take over des Ray.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
There was a very interesting examination of marijuana use around
the country and the New York Times the other day
and it said, as Americas marijuana use grows, so do
the harms? Do you think most people recognize the harms
that recreational use of marijuana present in some states right now?
Do you think they recognize that? And does that cause
you concern that legalize marijuana in this state may never

(35:44):
happen because of that.

Speaker 13 (35:47):
I lost her for just a second, but I what
were the what did you say after the harms?

Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well, after the harms, because people are becoming more and
aware aware of the harms of legalized marijuana around the country.
Do you think that the people here in Utah see
those stories, read about those stories, and become more and
more reluctant to legalized recreational use here in the state.

Speaker 13 (36:08):
You would hope so. And I do think that that's
why maybe we only got fifty percent instead of what
we would consider, you know, eighty to ninety percent that
support Well, I think it was eighty percent that supported
a medical market last time we checked, so we so, yes,

(36:29):
I think that that's probably why it isn't so high.
I think people understand, like myself, that an adult use
market does come with risk. What we need to do
is make sure that the that we are still providing,
you know, having an accessible medical market, or then they
will choose an adult use market thinking that they can

(36:49):
reduce the harms to themselves by you know, just not
driving under the influence or something. So I think it's
I think it's you know, they do a risk analysis
and they're like, well, right now, the art thing for
me is to treat my pain, so I'd be willing
to assume the risk of an adult use market.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Does ree. What I hear you saying is that, you know,
losing a medical program, disincentivizing producers who would invest in
quality and research for the medical efficacy of medical cannabis
is not a good scenario. It's not one that you're
actually looking for. It doesn't sound like that that recreational
and just getting the most the greatest high out of

(37:26):
it is not going to do what we always intended.
So I guess my question is how do we how
do we get doctors educated and how do we make
sure that this product does have all the efficacy, has
the research to quality and we resist this temptation to
make it recreational, which I think we all agree isn't
an upside for our state.

Speaker 13 (37:48):
No, it's completely not an upside, and it's not an
upside for patients, and it's not an upside for the
program that we want, you know, we envision. But the
truth is is that we aren't having good success with
doctors getting on board. We have put in the law
that the see it that there see any hours are offered. Now,
there are some that are offered that are cannabis education hours,

(38:12):
so they have the ability to learn more and maybe
become comfortable getting their qualified Medical Provider license and becoming
C and P and writing recommendations. But that's not happening.
And so what's happening over and over and over is
a patient goes to their regular care physician, they're turned
down there, and then they go to a clinic that

(38:33):
has a Q and P and they charge, you know,
anywhere from seventy five to three hundred dollars, and then
and that's and that is just not the program we
wanted to either. And so I think the biggest thing
we could do is you said it, if we could
get patient, if we could get patients to get their
regular care physicians to recommend this for them at a

(38:54):
regular visit so it doesn't cost two hundred dollars, we
would incentivize patients to not go outside. They wouldn't have
to shop outside the state, they wouldn't have to use
the black market, and they wouldn't have this deep desire
to have an adult use program to circumvent all of
these hurdles, but it is still it's a very cumbersome

(39:14):
program to get into. The conditions list is small. If
you don't have something that's on this conditions list, like
if you want to use it for sleep, you're supposed
to go before the Compassionate Use Board, and they don't
turn people down often, but I hear stories from patients
that say that they just didn't They say they didn't
have enough information and so then they weren't able to

(39:35):
get their cards. So then they still use the illicit market.
And even when a patient gets their card here, the
cost of the program compared to a recreational market which
is all around us and inside of the state, we
can we still only get about half of I think
it was forty percent of the patients still shop on
the illicit market after they get their card. So or

(39:59):
no six sorry sixty So forty percent are legal, sixty
percent are illegal. So we're still having those struggles. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (40:07):
Yeah, we all need it because we created this quality
medication and we regulated it so that we had something
good to offer them, good and safe, but they can't
afford it, and we need to get to.

Speaker 13 (40:21):
The bottom of that.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
That's aright. Thanks for your time. We appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
Thank you so interesting.

Speaker 13 (40:25):
Thank you, yep, have a good day, all right.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yeah, that's Desiree Hennessy from the Utah Patients Coalition. I
want to get some colors on this. And coming back
on this, you were deeply involved in this as a
Speaker of the House during the time of the medica.
Have we made it too difficult and is it too
difficult that thereby we're forcing people to go to the
illicit market and by I don't know, Greg, Yeah, I'd
like to hear from people who've tried and to say, yeah,

(40:49):
this is hard to do, and.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
I think, yeah, yeah. The goal was to really educate
the physicians to show that they take cancer for instance,
and having an appetite is very difficult when you're in
chemo at radiation. There's some things that can do to
help keep you nourished, and there's some there's some good
things out there, some good research behind it as well.
You go to the recreational you lose all that, you
lose all the research, you lose all the quality, and
now it's just a race to THHC and who gets high,

(41:14):
and it's it's just it's not what the state ever
ever needs.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
All Right. We want to get your calls on this.
Eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero
eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero.
We're talking about a poll showing half of Utah's now
support legalizing recreational marijuana. But in our conversation just a
minute ago, Greg, it doesn't sound like Desiree wants that.

Speaker 10 (41:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
You know, she's looking for something a little bit different
and a little a little more flexible. Would you agree?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah? No, yeah, she so, yes, she's not looking to
see she thinks it's the worst case scenario to see
a dent unregulated all about recreational cannabis program in Utah.
It would take away our medical structure of meeting. There'd
be no point in it, no point in no produce.
Sure is going to put the research and the and
the protections in uh in quality in if you can

(42:07):
just grow, I mean, if there's nothing to it, if
there's no structure.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
All right, let's get your reaction to this, this discussion
that we've been having. Zane is an Ogden tonight here
on the Roden, Greg, Joe Heinzaine, how are you? What
are your thoughts on that? Sane doing good? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (42:21):
So, I have a pre existing knee injury on both
of my knees from a snowboarding accident when I was
a kid. It's not enough that it requires surgery, but
I did have to go through three years of physical
therapy with no help from there, tried different supplements. I
had to after tell me to take ibuprofen and I

(42:42):
took it to the extent of it actually started damaging
my kidney function.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, I can't do that.

Speaker 16 (42:47):
So I tried to get a medical card and they
said they wouldn't give me a medical card here in Utah.
So I had to go other routes of procruing marijuana
and it was honestly, it saved me. I was working
extremely physical job fourteen plus hours a day and that

(43:09):
was the only reason why I could sleep at night,
was doing that. So I greatly I agree that it
should not be but I feel like the the limitations
on it for people to get it is way too strict.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
All right, good points.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah, And by the way, the intent was, the more
that physicians became familiar with the compassionate you sports supposed
to hear stories like Jeff's and start to frame it
around those ailments, the more comfort level and understanding doctor's
physicians had, the more you would see it prescribed or
recommended for things like that. Let's go to Jeff in provo. Jeff,
welcome to the Rod and Greg Show. What do you

(43:46):
think of this recreational marijuana?

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 17 (43:50):
Yeah, well, carton back to my childhood support it. But
today my wife was in a very serious this accident
six weeks ago today actually, and she just could not
tolerate the pharmaceutical lotheoids for the pain. And our primary

(44:12):
care doctor recommended that we go to that we try
the cannabis route, and it was talking about jumping through
hoops and I mean, it was just terrible. And then
when we finally finally got it, and it is so
expensive and of course insurance won't pay for it. Insurance
just laugh.

Speaker 12 (44:31):
If you have, you know.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (44:34):
So I just think that it's, you know, something's got
to be I mean, it actually worked for it was
a godsend for her in order to be able to
manage the pain. But on the other hand, it's been
a real pain of the you know what to try
to deal with with all the hoops.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
And everything interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
And Jeff brings up a good point that these opioids
aren't good for you. I mean, I mean, we've seen
the opioid settlement. You've seen people that are really addicted this,
even if by taking it the first time, they could
follow the instructions on the the the prescription bottle and
still find their bodies addicted to opioids, very very dangerous
way to try and address pain. There are better ways.

(45:14):
So medical cannabis does have I've been convinced it has
its place.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
It sure does.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
But it's got to be done with in cooperation and
with the supervision of physicians and pharmacists. And that's where
you're hearing that some of that process is becoming prohibitively
expensive or ardubly difficult.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
Now difficult for more your phone calls coming up on
the Rod and Greg Show as we talk about legalizing
recreational marijuana use here in the state of Utah. That
may be a bit misleading on that headline we'll talk
about that gets your thoughts. If you've been involved in
the medical marijuana program, how's it working for you or
is it too conversation? Has it been very beneficial? We're
talking about a poll out there suggesting that there is

(45:52):
support for legalized recreational use of marijuana, but there are
some changes to it because of the maybe questions being raised, Greg,
would you say about the medical marijuana program and it
may not be working as effectively as a lot of
people are hoping it would. Is that that fair assessment.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Well, look, there's a fine line between overregulated to the
point where no one's going to use it, or underregulated
to the point where it's not it's not really we're
not telling the truth that it's medical, and so you
have to you have to be able to strike that.
And so that was the purpose of the legislation originally,
and we just thought there'd be and I think there is.
There's eighty nine thousand. I just saw a stat there's

(46:29):
eight nine thousand card holders in Utah right now, which
I don't think is a small number of medical cannabis cardholders.
But I do think that the physicians where there's been
a stigma to it, or there's not here's a here's reality,
you can't there's no pharmaceutical company that can corner the
market on cannabis.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
So there's not a lot of financial incentive in finding
its medical efficacy supposedly, but you do have producers of
it that are doing this finding it. It does work
better than it's less dangerous than opioids, and so yeah, yeah,
so we should see doctors that are looking at this
a lot more.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Yeah, let's go to Tina and Ram tonight get her
thoughts on this. Tina, thank you for being very patient
waiting for us. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 18 (47:11):
Dare So, I am a medical marijuana user in Utah.
I'm almost seventy years old, and I was a medical
marijuana user in California. So I want to encourage Utahans
not to eliminate the medical aspect of it, because there
are so many things that you don't really know about it.
And when I go to the pharmacy inside where I

(47:35):
get my cannabis, I can talk to a pharmacist and
I can tell them very specifically, Okay, I have this problem.
I have this problem. I have this problem. My problem
is is that I have a bad back and I
have a sciatica issue, very painful, yes, and I cannot
take any medication at all. I cannot even take a
tie on or on ibuprofen, and any opiate would kill

(47:56):
me instantly. I was burnt real bad as a child,
and so I developed an allergy to almost any and
all pharmaceutical medications. So what I want to say is
it was not difficult for me, and I don't find
it expensive. And as a seventy year old that I
think that's pretty good. Right. I have normal resources that
a lot of people would have, and I find it

(48:18):
very very useful because as I go through different changes,
I can say, Okay, this wasn't working as well as
i'd like to, what can you recommend? I can also
tell you that they can recommend different cannabinoids mixed in
with the phc that are going to really help me.
And in California they weren't allowed to tell me anything.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Well, the real is that, Tina. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Yeah, I'm having a moment. Tina is very person. It
was in about my mind that I hoped would be
able to have access to it to receive relief and
help her working for her. That's right. Let's go to Greg.
Thank you for the call team. I appreciate it. But
let's go to Greg with a great name from Kerns.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 19 (49:03):
Thank you, rod Tye Rod I Greg my fellow Greg Ah, Hello, Hey,
we've been talking a lot about the medical marijuana, but
nobody's talking about the recreational part. You know, before we
jump into this, we should talk to the officials in
Denver and see what kind of experiences they are having.
From what I've talked to friends and people that I
know that are in Denver, they're having more dua issues

(49:25):
and they're also dealing with a black market. Yeah, because
even though it's been legalized, they can get a cheaper
on the black market and that's taking over.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, that's I've heard the same thing in Denver. A
lot more driving under the influence, and the black market,
which I think they felt would go away with legalized
recreational use is bigger and stronger than ever.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, there's Denver. We looked at. Denver is probably a
worse case. What you don't want to do is what
they're doing there. And there is the medical efficacy. There
is no incentive to actually have a serious medical cannabis
program in that state of Colorado. And I cannot emphasize
enough the dangers and the hazards of being a recreational
marijuana state, folks. Would be the Idaho Economic Development Act

(50:08):
is what it would be. That's what it's true.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
That's true all right more, your phone calls coming up
eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero, or
on your cell phone dial pound two fifty and say hey.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Rod, Yeah, let's go to Tony in Salt Lake City. Tony,
thank you for calling the Rodn and Greg Show.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Hey, thanks for having me on and citizen Greg.

Speaker 12 (50:27):
I just want you to know I've been I've been a
Steelers Fancins. It's nineteen seventy nine.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Yes, super Bowl fourteen. Good for you, good man, Tony.
It's a good call.

Speaker 12 (50:41):
And I even had have a I have a tattooed
on my.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Shoulder erst you know what you're the I love Tony.
We're gonna any time Tony calls you put them the
top of the line from now on. Man, the man
knows his football.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Okay, yes, yes, okay.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I am a a card holder for Legal for Marijuana.
I've got some back issues. In January, I had elbow surgery.
I just wish that it wouldn't cost so much to
go in to see the doctor to renew my card.

Speaker 12 (51:14):
Every year.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
It's like one hundred and fifty to two hundred dollars,
but I only have to pay the state fifteen.

Speaker 12 (51:24):
You know so, But it has helped me. I don't
trust the street marijuana like I did when I was
a kid, because now they lease it was stuff You
never know what it's laced with, and that can cause
more health issues than what you're trying to fix, you know.

(51:48):
I'd like to see the program improve a little bit.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
More and be more affordable for us. But continue with
the program.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
All right, Donny. Donny made a good point. Thevel of
THC into the maze pot is a lot different from this.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, and and there, as I've talked to these producers,
it's not all in the THC anymore. I Mean, there's
other there's other qualities in this that in cannabis that
that help people medicinally. So it's a it's a I
really enjoying these calls. It's good to hear that our
smartest listeners in all the land are just not taboo.
It's they're talking about the right things.

Speaker 1 (52:23):
Yeah they are. They are all right. Uh, let's try
and see Ron, if you can do it in less
than a minute, Ron, we can let you on the show.
Let's say you about this. You've got about one minute
if that go ahead.

Speaker 20 (52:35):
So I am a current card holder and like the
previous caller, in my use, I used it for the
wrong purposes. Now that I've got my medical card, and
it's a little pricey at the pharmacy, but the quality
is consistent and it's well worth not taking the risks.

Speaker 17 (52:58):
Like the previous aller.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Said, all right, Ron, thank you appreciate your call on.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
Then I love it. I honestly, this is exactly what
I had hoped. And you're hearing people. This isn't the
like the songs that we're hearing from you, the Chichen
Chong and stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
There.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
These are people that are finding medical uh, you know,
relief in the right way.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
There are benefits and then and you said it in
the right way, and.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
So our listeners know that this doesn't start. These cards
start with a physician and with that that you know,
medical visit, and then with a pharmacist in terms of
what they want products and then they they work on
that and the reason it's renewed is to refine it.
So uh, things to do make it better. But I'm
hearing good things back from our callers, which I love.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
All right, more coming up, It's the third hour the
Rod and Gregg Show. Next after a news update, stay
with us now the night before we have to remember
it's Rod and Gregg's minute to win it. This is
where we challenge candidates throughout the state to call into
the show and see if they can make their case
to voters in one minute. You say you could do it.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Oh, I couldn't give you my name in a minute.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Nope, you couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
That's why I never called in.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
You couldn't get that.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
There is no minute to win it. I need like
I need a long time. Yeah, no, but no, it's
it'll be interesting. I've not been in this seat.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
You haven't. It's really a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Having been a candidate before, I'm just really curious to
hear how someone gets out there message and I think
it's fun. I think it's cool.

Speaker 12 (54:23):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Some of them have it written down, which is fine
their pitch. Others just wing it, which is okay as well.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I'd say a message read is a message dead. Just
give it. Just go from the heart, Go from the heart,
go there. That's what I say.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
All right, shall we talk about California?

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Do we have to?

Speaker 19 (54:39):
Well?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I like visiting California. California.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Do that is okay?

Speaker 1 (54:43):
That is very nice places in California.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
I have a place in California I particularly like to go,
so yes, I and I'm telling you this seven and
a half dollars account about the place. I've told you
where I like to go. There, I've already told you.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh I know where you live.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yes, I like to I have one spot and I
pay seven and a half dollars a gallon for gas
from there. But I don't put your car very often,
so yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Don't care. All right. Well, there's a brand new book out.
It's called The Left Coast Survivor's Guide. It's aim to
help America stop the California Way from spreading. One of
the authors.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Build a wall and make California pay for it.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, there you go. One of the authors is Tim
and I. He's with the Pacific Research Institute. Tim, how
are you, and welcome to the running great show. Thanks
for joining us.

Speaker 10 (55:28):
Oh I'm great. It's great to chat with you both.
And I don't blame you. I want to come to
your I want to come to your secret hiding place
in California. I hope it's somewhere good. We need to
stick together in numbers here.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
Yeah, yeah, Tim, tell us what this book is all
about what do you hope to achieve in writing this book?

Speaker 10 (55:48):
Sure, so we were inspired to write the book when
we saw our illustrious Governor Gavin Newsom going around and
talking about what he brags about, the California Way. And
you know, the California Way for those who aren't familiar
with what's going on here, it's all the failed policies
you read about on everything from from crime and healthcare

(56:12):
and green mandates and homelessness that we know were just
too costly and they don't work. And you know, we think,
you know, those of us who you know actually believe
in freedom and free markets in California, we think we
really live in a policy wilderness here. And then we realized,
you know, the Sierra Nevadas are not holding back these

(56:34):
bad ideas at the state line. You know, not only
do you see now hopefully it didn't come to Utah,
but not only do you see you know new some
going to Red states pushing the California Way. You know,
all these bad ideas are inspiring Kamala Harris too. So
we thought it was time to warn all our friends
in Utah and across the country, and so we wrote

(56:56):
our book and the setup of it, right is it's
like the old wilderness scouting guides that boy Scouts and
Girls Scouts used, and it really gives you in, you know,
a user friendly entertaining way. There's lots of drawings and
pictures in it too, you know, all the facts and
anecdotes you needs so that when folks in you know,

(57:19):
the city you live in or at your state capital
start coming up with these bad ideas from California and
want to enact them there, you can say, after you
read our book, hey, we've been there, done that, and
these policies don't work.

Speaker 21 (57:35):
You know.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Tim, Here's the thing. I think the last census showed
a population decrease in California, maybe for the first time ever.
I know that in Utah we've seen a lot of
Californians with great at home equity coming into our state.
Some are political refugees that are trying to get away
from the politics of California, but some actually bring these politics.
Can you help our listeners here in Utah spot a

(57:57):
Californian so we know what they're going to tell us
is going to be a lie or it's gonna end
up biting us if we listen to them. For too long.

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Well, yes, they they might be driving you know, a
Tesla or some sort of gas uh gas friendly car.
They might have a cow or a U C L
A sticker on their on their bumper. H yeah, you might.

(58:26):
You know, they they might have you know, they're the
ones that actually remembered to bring in their cloth grocery
bags when they go to the grocery store. You know,
they you know, they certainly have their uh you know,
their their their Patagonia shirt on, or they're there they're

(58:47):
birken Stocks, certainly, but they they they do kind of
have a look about them. And it's an interesting point
you bring out because as I travel around the country
and I love to, you know, escape, when they give
me a passport to get across the state line and
come to Salt Lake City or go to Tennessee. I
was just in Colorado Springs last week, and everybody says

(59:11):
the same thing. I always say, I'm the one California
you wouldn't mind if I moved to your state. But
everybody else, you know, they all say, we escaped California
because it's so expensive, or we didn't like this law,
or the taxes are too high. Yet when they come to,
you know, the promised land in Salt Lake City or
Nashville or Colorado Springs or elsewhere. They they obviously they

(59:35):
didn't read my books. They didn't realize hee. Maybe we're
the problem, not the others.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Yeah, you know, I saw this article today and this
is so Californian. But there's this article out today that
they may soon ban gas powered lawnmars. I mean completely
ban them. I mean just another one of the crazy
moves that are being made in California, and unfortunately, I
think tim will spread around the rest of the country.

Speaker 10 (01:00:01):
We've actually already done it in California that's on track
to be enacted. The law will take effect in the
next decade or so. But it's a couple of things
on that. So number one, one of the issues there
is it's not just gas powered lawnmowers, it's also generators.
So you know, if you live in the mountains, maybe right,

(01:00:22):
and it's you know, of course we have the ban
days where you can burn in your fireplaces. You know,
you might need a generator when the power goes out.
Maybe you have a health condition you have to keep
your medicine, you know, refrigerated. But also it's you know,
it's annoying to us, but it also matters because you know,
Latino entrepreneurs one of the common businesses they own are

(01:00:47):
lawn care businesses. We know entrepreneurship is the way up
the ladder, and so you are, you know, denying the
pathway to prosperity for many thousands of work. It's the
same for commercial gas of them they ban them there,
you know, and it'll take effect in a few years
in southern California. That's thirty two hundred jobs they're going

(01:01:10):
to be lost in southern California because they have to
go to electric of and the cost of it is
so much. And in many cases, especially you know, in
long care, they don't exist. You can't get commercial products
that are replacements for the gas products. And who loses
that on the end are real people, you know, providing

(01:01:31):
for their families losing their jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
You know, Tim, I this isn't my favorite place in California,
but I went to Huntington Beach and I noticed that
the craziest irony in that I'm in a very green
state that really really does hate the combustible engine and
gasoline and everything like that. But in the restaurant districts.
I saw the arms of extraction for oil, and I
saw the offshore drills. They're just off the beach in

(01:01:56):
Newport Beach or not Newport acts be Huntington Beach, and
I asked around and they said, well, that's that's actually
not very clean oil. They sell that to Mexico. There's
no I don't know of any wall or screen that
would keep the air away from Mexico into California. But
reconcile that for me?

Speaker 12 (01:02:13):
Are they?

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
How is there an oil industry in southern California where
where they are so hostile to anything that would use
oil or gas.

Speaker 10 (01:02:22):
Well, there's a lot less of an oil industry in California,
and Gavin Newsom is doing everything he can to drive
it away. In fact, by twenty forty five and when
we have these laws that are come on the books
to a ban all gas powered cars from being sold
in the state and be one hundred percent of our
power will have to come from renewable sources. You know

(01:02:44):
Newsomb really wants it to be where the oil industry
is done in California. Then you know, we've just had
a lot of hullabaloo in the state over. Newsom had
a bill that was supposed to prevent price gouging among
oil companies and heap gas prices low. So he passed
this bill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
It was about, you.

Speaker 10 (01:03:03):
Know, having these new bureaucratic requirements about how much supply
oil companies have to have online. Well, the issue is,
so this bill is signed. You know, the ink isn't
even dry, and as signature, Phillip sixty six announces they're
closing two big refineries in southern California. Eight percent of
the state's gas supply going away with that bill.

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
Wow.

Speaker 10 (01:03:24):
So you know it's not only unintended consequences, but I
think that's what he really wants. He really wants you
to have power as he wants to drive the kind
of cars as he wants. So, yeah, he might be
trying to, you know, have a little window dressing on
TV and make believe like he's standing up for you,

(01:03:45):
the person tired of paying all these high gas prices. Well,
a dollar forty one per gallon in California is from
taxes and green mandates. You know, he's the one. If
he wants to find the price gouger, look in the mirror.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Damn great conversation. Thank you for your time tonight, and
good luck with the book.

Speaker 10 (01:04:02):
Thanks so much. Great to chat with you both.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
All right. That's Tim and Iyah Pacific Research Institute. He's
got a brand new book out called The California Left
Coast Survivor's Guy. Can you imagine the price of gasoline
with eight percent of the fuel that they process going
away because those refineries are closing, The price is already crazy.
It is maybe ten dollars a gallon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
But you know, remember when they had COVID and they
shut everything down. But he was at the fancy front
restaurant with a no mask on a ross table. That
is that is California. And in envision that he gets
to do things that the regular people in California are
not allowed to do, or he is working to keep
them from being able to do. Well. He goes and
lives a life of luxury and convenience, not being interrupted

(01:04:42):
by any of those things that he's you know, imposing
on others that that French restaurant with no mask on
while he's shut down that entire state. That's that's California
a nutshell.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Yeah, the elites versus the unwaked, the everyday people. I'll say,
all right, boy, coming up on the Rotten Greg Show.
Well let's go. She caught up on what happened on
the campaigns rail today. Kamala, of course wasn't there. She
stayed in Washington, had to prep for an interview with
NBC News. Will Eric clip from that interview in a minute.
She has a I think a town hall meeting or

(01:05:12):
something interview with Univision tonight. But during her NBC interview
earlier today, the reporter, her name is Hallie Jackson, decided
to press Harris on whether she had been honest about
Joe Biden's mental acuity.

Speaker 22 (01:05:26):
Here's what she had to say and did him in
the days before and in the days after, as you
were campaigning for another four years for President Biden, can
you say that you were honest with the American people
about what you saw in those moments with President Biden
as you were with him again and again repeatedly in
that time.

Speaker 21 (01:05:43):
Of course, Joe Biden is an extremely accomplished, experienced and
capable in every way that anyone would want if they're president.

Speaker 22 (01:06:00):
Ever saw anything like what happened at the debate night
behind closed doors with him?

Speaker 10 (01:06:03):
It was a bad debate.

Speaker 21 (01:06:05):
People have bad debates.

Speaker 22 (01:06:07):
He is absolutely that's the reason why you're here, and
he is not running for the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Top of the ticket.

Speaker 21 (01:06:13):
Well, you'd have to ask him if that's the only reason, why,
what do you think I am running for president and
the United States is not?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
Oh wow, she couldn't answer that question.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
You know, there is so much packed into that. There's
things she can't say because he'll come after her, or
he'll go after she is. She has a she has
a very frail base of voters that believe just profoundly
different than each other that she can't offend, so she
can't really talk issues. Then she's got someone looking over
her shoulder, Biden, if he's awake that if she makes

(01:06:49):
mad boy, he's going to come after her because he's
already mad. He got kicked to the curb. She can't
really go after him too hard. She's stuck. And then
she calls Tim Wallsey because your wife is totally annoying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
That's gonna go. Well, I have a question. We should
have a bet on this. By the way, we shouldn't
bet on the heir, but we will anyways. Friendly how
long will it be after election night? Election day? Donald
Trump is a winner and Joe Biden comes out and says,
I told you so. How long will be? Will be
an hour, will be a couple of days. I will

(01:07:21):
ever say it as.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Soon as that two hundred and seventy Electoral College voters
votes have been secured and announced, he will be As
they're finishing that sentence saying I told you so, he was.
The lip readers caught him saying this at Ethel Kennedy's funeral. Yeah,
I'm stronger than her. Yeah, you know I'm stronger than her.
I mean, he's already he's still ticked off that he's

(01:07:44):
that he's gotten booted. And I think if you look
at I, we'll see again. I don't want to get
over my skis. But if this these numbers continue and
you see this camp, these campaigns go in the trajectory
they're going now, there will be people that will argue
that that Biden in the basement like twenty twenty would
have been a stronger look than what we have right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Well there, I think you referenced this earlier. There was
an article in The Hill today correct him, basically asking
the question, should we have kept Joe kept Joe? Well,
Joe was out on the campaign's rail today.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
Now, this is probably why you don't want him out
on the trail, because I find this to be the
most instant. Remember this is he's talking about a gentleman,
former President Trump, who's there's been two attempted assassination attempts
on him because of very violent uh you know, violent
inducing rhetoric. Let's hear what the what what President Biden
had to say about Trump today.

Speaker 12 (01:08:37):
This is not a joke.

Speaker 23 (01:08:40):
This is the guy who also wants to place every
single sermon, every single one thinks he has a rated
of the Supreme Court ruling on immunity to be able
to need be if he if it was the case
to actually eliminate physically eliminate, should kill someone who is
as a right to him. I mean, so, I know

(01:09:03):
this sounds bizarre, and it sounds like I say, five
years ago, you locked me up, we gotta lock him up.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
I just lock him up today and not what he's
basically saying he needs to be locked up today.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah, and I'm going to tell you that that that
if you look at the violence that people that have
tried to attempt that assassination, everybody said, you know, we
got to simmer down here. We got to quit using
such extreme language. I don't think that's he It is
an absolute farce. It is worse than a farce. It's
an offensive lie to say that somehow Donald Trump thinks

(01:09:41):
he can shoot, shoot and kill his political enemies who
don't agree with him because of the Supreme Court immunity case.
I mean, that is just you know, if someone hears
that and you're in, you're cuckoo for Coco Pops. That's
how these these horrific, you know, assassination attempts happen. And
this is that kind of reckless rhetoric.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
This coming from apart that is saying Donald Trump will
lock us up because of what we're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
It defies logic.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I mean, who was it was Carvel today? I think
you quit, He'll shoot us.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
I mean, and Carvell says, I'm not looking. I'm not
being fair. I'm not fair. He's He's just he is
trying the only thing that Carvel and I think that
campaign knows that they have or people that don't want Trump.
Nobody wants I don't think Kamala Harris to be the
next president. But they are just trying Donald Trump hard
as they can to tap into this fear of Donald Trump,
which I think is waning. I think the fear of

(01:10:33):
Donald Trump with a turn behind him where good things occurred,
and I think a smart run campaign where he's with
the people talking, interacting. I think that that fear, you know,
fear him, you know, hate him, fear him, vote against him.
That that's not working.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
They had heard all right, Well, final half hour the
Rod and Greg Show coming up right here on Utah's
talk radio onet oh five nine K and R as.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I've not been in this spot before because when we
were in sixteen twenty sixteen, we didn't know what was
rena I had. I saw the path, I knew it
was a lot of dominoes had to fall. In fact,
his numbers were a lot less likely than what we're
saying right now Kamala Harris' is. But that's because he
was he underpolled, clearly. But when's the last time we've
been two weeks out from an election and we have

(01:11:19):
felt like our candidate is going is going the right way,
has the momentum, has the has the umph. I mean
even even George W. Bush didn't feel like this before
he won. So I don't want to, Like I said,
I just don't want to get too excited. But man,
I it's it's strange to feel like that when you

(01:11:41):
see everything that's coming into Even early voting, Democrats have
to own early voting because they don't show up as
strong on election day as Trump has. So I mean,
I don't know, we'll see if they're not showing if
they're If early voting is showing up early for him,
then maybe that doesn't show up as strong for Trump
on election day because they're voting early. But fifty five
thousand registered voters in Pennsylvania switch their party affiliation from

(01:12:04):
Democrat to Republican.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
That's on her. That's a big number. And one of
the reasons I think, Greg is, you know, it's really
it's safe to say that the American people know where
Donald Trump stands on almost difference.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Yes, I would say.

Speaker 1 (01:12:18):
They know what he wants to do on the economy,
They know what he wants to do with business regulation,
they know what he wants to do about immigration, what
he wants to do about foreign policy. They know where
he stands. We still don't know where Kamala Harris stands. No,
I mean, even yesterday, there's confusion. Now does she support
fracking or does she oppose fracking? I mean, you know,

(01:12:42):
you get conflicting signals coming out of her campaign where
her chief climate advisors said, whoa, wha, wha, whoa, Well
she really does oppose fracking. Wait a minute, she said herself, No,
I don't oppose fracking. I mean they're conflicting messages not
only on this issue, but other issues, Greg, coming out
of this campaign. That is a sign of I think

(01:13:03):
they're in disarray.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
Yeah, and it just depends that they refuse to believe
it's twenty twenty four, where when you talk to one
audience and you tell them one thing that the other
audience isn't going to hear you, but we are going
to hear them contradict themselves depending on the audience front.
Because they don't have the same message for each state,
each voting block, they have to have a different message
to try and appeal or try to earn someone's vote.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Yeah. Well, there was a story today, Greg, and I
forgot to ask cousin Maddie about this question, but there
was a story out today. I think it's from the
Southwest Pennsylvania News. I think is what it is. But
it talks about banning fracking if in fact it was
banned in Pennsylvania. You know, jobs would be caught lost
as a result of that, four hundred and twenty three thousand. Yeah,

(01:13:48):
and the amount of money they would lose seventy five
billion dollars if she banned fracking in the state of Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
I have family members that are involved in that industry. Yeah,
so that, yeah, I know the very jobs you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
Yeah, I mean they would do it. Now. The other
thing I saw today that I really enjoyed, I mean,
Elon Musk. What an interesting guy this is. I'd love
to sit down and talk to him some days about
what he sees in the future, not now, but what
he would like.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
To anytime you get to sit in front of an
alien and talk to them, I'm sure that they would
be very, very interesting to talk to. I can't imagine
the Democrats picking a worse fight with a more daunting
and intimidating opponent than Elon Musk. Going after him was insane,
and they'd have gone after him with everything they've gone.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Did you hear the story he told about when they
when he flew the spaceships right before he was allowed
to do that. Regular I love this story. Regulators wanted
to ensure that his spaceships and rockets didn't fall into
the ocean and kill whales or sharks. Yeah, they made
him go through a study to prove that when his

(01:14:59):
rockets fall from the sky into the ocean that it
wouldn't kill a whaler. Shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
I think you had to put earphones on seals and
then turn up the volume to see if it hurt
their ears. Whatever he was doing, Yeah, I saw it,
and I don't know if I can find it again.
But the number of federal departments that have investigated, whether
it's Tesla or whether it's SpaceX.

Speaker 12 (01:15:18):
Or.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Federal agencies have done that, It is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Unreal how they have let loose on him and his
innovation in his companies that are truly groundbreaking in terms
of how he's changing society in a good way, and
they just attack him mercilessly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yeah. Well, he points out as well, get this, Greg,
four hundred federal agencies in Washington are empowered with rule
making authority, and that's what like LYE rails on all
the time. It's not the lawmakers, you know, creating the
laws or the policies gets these four hundred federal agencies
that are doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
Well, that's why the thought that he gets to help
make the federal government efficient and try to get rid
of these is just I mean, everyone loves the idea.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
I hope, I hope that you know about You know
that Trump turns to him and said, all right, Elon,
you have you have ninety to one hundred and twenty days.
I want to hear back from you then as to
what we need to cut and then let him do it.

Speaker 18 (01:16:13):
You know it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Look, he is trying to get people engaged, excited. He's
giving that million dollar lottery to people that that registered
to vote. You've got, you've got right now. I just
read something where Bill Gates is it just gave com
On another fifty mil to try and help her win.
Don't let anyone, including Tim Walls today and some speech
say Lelon Musk is trying to buy this election for

(01:16:35):
Donald Trump. Really, Democrats are out spending Republicans three to one.
They've got all the billionaires. You got one the innovator here,
Elon Musk, that's on the side of Trump. So it's this, this,
this is way skewed against the everyday americans. You got
one guy like Elon that's that's on the side of
really freedom of speech and all the things that shouldn't
be a Republican issue. He wasn't a Republican in twenty twenty.

(01:16:57):
They kicked him out of the party. They've mocked him
ever since they investated him. He's backing Trump and he's
going to be a part of that administration going forward
if given the chance, Man, sign me up. I think
that is just. And don't let anyone tell you that
anything that Elon Musk is doing or that Trump campaign
is doing is somehow nefarious. It is why that it's
one of the bigger reasons that campaign is seeing success.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
And there are some Democrats who now realized we made
a mistake. When do we kicked Elon out?

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah, that was a mistake. Center Fetterman said it. Bob
Casey has Trump in his ads. I'm with Donald Trump
on foreign policy and tariffs. It is unreal to me
that that that's happening, but I guess I shouldn't be
surprised and.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
More coming up final segment of The Ron and Gregg Show. Yeah,
you've got some more sound bites from the Kamala interview
on NBC tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
I suspect we'll be getting more of this as this
NBC News interview breaks that she took all day to
prepare for. I don't know why this took all day
to prepare for, because these these these excerpts were getting
are not that good for her? The question being asked,
and again I'm prize to see NBC News asking hard
hitting questions. She asks, if Kamala Harris believes in any

(01:18:06):
sort of exemptions for abortion at any stage of a pregnancy,
including religious exemptions. This is what she had to say.

Speaker 22 (01:18:15):
What concessions would be on the table? Religious exemptions, for example?
Is that something that you would consider.

Speaker 21 (01:18:19):
I don't think we should be making concessions when we're
talking about a fundamental freedom to make decisions about your
own body.

Speaker 22 (01:18:25):
Two Republicans like for example, Susan Collins Lisa Murkowski, who
would back something like this on a Democratic agenda, if
in fact Republicans control Congress, would you offer them an
olive branch? Or is that off the table? Is that
not an option for you?

Speaker 21 (01:18:37):
I'm not going to engage in hypotheticals.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
What wow, Well, that you've got her, You've got her opinion.
Would she does not believe in any exemptions. And folks,
let me just an interesting conversation I had with someone
who's from Europe. Europeans think that the dog decision and
what's going on in America is barbaric. The Americans would
try to keep from having abortions. And this the European

(01:19:02):
who lives here now said, did you know that they
allow it up to the fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth,
ninth month, even partial birth abortion? And they yeah, He's
asking them, do you know in America that's that's been
the law. And they said, there's no way they can't
do it. I mean in Europe after you get eight, ten, twelve,
fifteen weeks or that's it for them. There are two

(01:19:23):
countries in this world that allow full term pregnancies to
be aborted, and that is South is North Korea and
China okay, and the United States is the third is
about to become the third okay. And that is what
a full term abortions about. That is what states get
to decide whether they want to play, they want to
do that or not, or put restrictions on or whatever
they want to do. It's a state decision. Now, like

(01:19:43):
all health care delivery, by the way, all health care
deliveries are are structured by state statute. They don't understand
that she's saying, I believe in zero exemptions, zero restrictions, restrictions.
She's fine with the North Korea and China approach to abortion.
I mean that's so for all those Mitt Romney's and
centered Jeff Flake's out there, they say, for the moral reasons,

(01:20:06):
we have to support Kamala Harris. Just put that into
the equation and tell me that that makes any sense
at all. It just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Yeah, yeah, Well, and is it France that has one
of the most restrictive abortion's law abortion laws in the country, I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Believe, Yeah, I think it's the United States position on
abortion has been completely exaggerated and mistold. I mean, it's
it's just not true what they what people have been
led to believe is the case here in terms of
abortion or or its role. And hopefully we used to
say none of us want it. It's something that's a
terrible decision. They have flipped the script. They demand it.

(01:20:42):
It's now health to be able to get an abortion.
It's it's it victimizes everyone around.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
You know, you want a number that will surprise, absolutely nobody.
You're ready for this. Yes, eighty percent of college faculty
support Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Of course they do.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Of college faculty support the Democratic presidential ticket. That's according
to Inside Higher Ed. Only eight percent of the faculty
surveyed express support for former President Donald Trump. Seventy eight
percent support Kamala Harris and will probably donate to her camp.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
There because they're not in the real world, they can
do those that can't teach, Okay, so there you go,
and they can't, so they teach, and so they live
in a different reality than the rest of this country does.

Speaker 1 (01:21:29):
Yeah, and here's the problem too as well, Greg, A
very high percentage, I think it's seventy eight percent plan
to discuss the upcoming election in their classroom. What do
you think they'll say?

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
So get this. This is funny, well not funny. Josh
hal Hally's opponent a guy named Lucas Kuhn's k u
NC eve and Missouri's running against him for a Senate
He's They had a reporter there with Kissinger, Adam Kissinger.
There was an accident that the reporter got shot in
the arm. He's okay, there I see a picture where

(01:22:02):
they're administering first aid. Josh Holly says, I condemn all
acts of violence against reporters and call on Kusta never
shoot another one.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
Yeah, all right, that does it for us tonight, head up,
shoulders back. May God bless you and your family this
great country of ours. We'll talk to you tomorrow.

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