The Rod and Greg Show: Stress Faced by Parents; Voters Start to See Kamala's Incompetence

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It feels so good to be back today. I miss you.
I'm just going to come clean. Well, well, thank you.
It was uh, it was a encounter with COVID. Oh yeah,
you know that that I had last week. My wife
had it first. We we we socially distanced from one
end of the house to the other. It didn't work
because I got it to.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hillary got it when she did. She got it the
Democrat nationally. She had it.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
So me and Hillary have something in common, you do
I thought of the two of you. Yeah, perish the thought. Yes,
just birds of a feather flock together. We have got
we have got some exciting news today. Do you know
why Tucker Carlson coming to town on Saturday. Yes, Glenn
Beck will be here with him on Saturday. We have

(00:44):
got tickets that will be giving away all this week,
plus plus dinner with you and me.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yes, and we hope that's not a chilling effect with us.
We would hope that that would enhance your experience at
this concert, which I'm so excited to attend.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
We'll take our our winners. The event gets underway, I
think at seven o'clock at the Delta Center on Saturday night.
We will have dinner with you at Huckleberry Grill just
south of Costco here in downtown Salt Lake City. Eric,
I think Eric who is the chef, that he's the
big guy, right, Yeah, I think he's been cooking since
he's three. He really makes a good food.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's it's it's out.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
He makes no really really good food. Homegrown comfort food
is what Huckleberry Grill is all about. So we'll start
giving away tickets today and tickets to the event and
tickets to have dinner with Greg and Rod. That should
be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
You know, there's a lot of buzz like so Tucker's
doing this concert around the country because Glenn Beck's joining
him on this one, it is getting I think a
lot more attention, this particular one in Salt Lake.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
He's doing sixteen dates over the next several weeks to
be a busy guy, and one of them here in
Salt Lake City. And then Friday, you and I will
be at the Greek Festival. That will be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yes, that is fun. That is a great time.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
They're letting us out of the building.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
They might not know after the brass might not have
been told. You know, you don't assume. Let's just keep quiet.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
They may not know. All right, let's talk the races
on shoe. We say that you'll hear this now a
million times before we get to election day. But you know,
Labor Day kind of the official start of the final
run for the White House. Uh, and it's just going
to be interesting to see what's going on. I want
to bring I want to outline to start off the show, Greg,
because Nate Silver brought this up in one of his

(02:29):
articles today, talking about the fact that things may kind
of settle down a little bit and we'll get a
real sense as to where voters are when it comes
to the election, uh in November, because he said, look
at the look at the election cycle, the news cycle,
not the election cycle, but the news cycle we've been
through since June twenty seventh. I mean, listen to this

(02:50):
the debate, Okay, the debate, and everybody saw that Joe
Biden had cognitive disabilities, right, decline, decline, And then all
of a sudden, I think it freed up people within
his own party to start talking about Joe you probably
should quit, you know. So that happened, And that happened,
and then on July thirteenth, Donald Trump is shot an

(03:12):
assassination attempt. Yes, I it's real, Yeah, I remember. And
then three days later, the Republican National Convention begins.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
And our heads are spinning like you know, yeah, we're
on a swivel. We're just going are you kidding me?
We're starting to convention. We just had an attempted assassination.
We're trying to get our heads around it all in
real time. But we're not done.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
No. Well, as the convention goes, the pressure mounts on Joe.
About two or three days later, after the convention is over,
Joe makes it official. He is out of there. He's quitting.
Then all of a sudden, we see the ascension of
Kamala someone who is not fit to be president of
the United States. But apparently you know what was it?
What you sent me a story? Today they call it

(03:51):
vaporware method. Yes, something vaporware vaporware method. So that's a
marketing I guess, and it's now it's in our politics.
It's where you create the illusion of you know, of
a of a product, you have vibes, you say it's
all real, and then once people show interest, then you
create the product because you've got enough interest to back
it up. That's that's what this Kamala Harris campaign. Well,

(04:13):
the ascension. Then you have the DNC. Okay, thirty seven
minutes of absolutely nothing from Kamala Harris and introducing Timmy
her security blanket, Yeah, her security animal. Yeah. The interview.
You've got Timmy, You've got the interview, and then of
course you've got now the debate. Do you believe the
debate's coming up a week from tonight?

Speaker 2 (04:36):
She has set herself up terribly because she is avoiding
you've seen the clips. We spoke about this on the
oone this morning. She wears those earbuds, but she wears
ones with the wires down the bottom, so you know
that she's on the like she's trying to act like she's.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
On the phone talking.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, she is avoiding the friendliest interviews. By the way,
that's seeing an interview with Dana Bash forty minutes of
which they only showed eighteen minutes of it. Yep, and
that's what that's your friendliest audience the world, and you
can't get better than eighteen minutes out of a forty
minute interview. I honestly think that this strategy of Theirs
of trying to hide her I think it's why. Actually,
if you look at the numbers in the betting lines

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on this election, she has gone down markedly because she's talking.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
I'm telling you what.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
We have clips later in the program of her in
Detroit on Labor Day yesterday, and then her and Pittsburgh,
And if you just close your eyes, you don't think
you're listening to the same same speech, same words, different accent.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Who knew Yeah, so up until now, since June twenty seventh,
until now, I don't think we've been through a normal
news cycle. I think we may now get into a
normal news cycle. And when we do, Greg, people are
going to start asking who is Kamala Harris and what
does she stand for? Because I don't think she knows
what she stands for.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Here's what I'm afraid of. I don't know that it
ever gets normal. I think this is the new normal.
I think they will continue to find black Swan's big stories,
something to distract the people. They only they only have
one play. Yeah, well they have two. Hate Donald Trump
and be everything to everyone. Okay, hate Donald Trump and
be everything to everyone. And that's the only two things
they have. If you let it slow down, if you

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don't start putting shiny objects out there in front of
the American people. And they have to ask, do I
actually hate Donald Trump enough that my groceries are this expensive,
that my gas is this much, the public safety so
at risk, that Venezuelans are taking over a rural Colorado
and every other city around this country. Do I hate
them more than all those things? The answer is going
to be for every logical person. Heavens, no, I don't

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hate them that much. I mean, it wasn't that bad
when he was president. So they can't let you think that.
So they're just going to keep putting. I'm afraid that
it's just going to keep being a circus.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, and we were talking about this during our morning
show call this morning as well. You always fear about
an October surprise. What can't say surprises about Donald Trump anymore?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Every word, every accusation has been made. They don't have
anything left.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
There's nothing left, nothing's been done at all. Well, it
is uh Rodden Gregg Show here on Utah's Talk Radio
one O five nine. Canterres great to be with you
on this Tuesday. We've got a short week this week,
mister Hughes, because you had to take Monday off. I
was ready it come to work.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
Oh yeah, this is on me. Yeah, mister Covid. Yeah,
it's all your fault. You're your fault every time you travel.
I told I told our whole listing audience, you're not
allowed to travel anymore. It's just what happens for every
time you. Every time you go on a trip, you
come back sick. You're a bubble boy. Now I just
have to take care of you. The show has to
go on. You can't keep bailing out when you travel.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah right, thanks, all right, We've got a great show
lined up for you today. A little bit later on
we'll talk with Tad Callister about Constitution month here in
the state of Utah. Boy, is a very good constitution
coming under attack. And a little bit later on stressed
out moms and dads. Yes, wait to hear what's going
on with parents now to day. So it's going to
be a fun ride. Great to be with you here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine can arrests

(07:52):
coming up at the bottom of the adther our, Tad
Callister will join us. Tad is the chairman of Why
I Love America Committee. It is Constitution month here in
the state of Utah. I love that the legislature a
couple of years ago designated this month is Constitution Month.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
I do too, and it's it's actually, you know, the
first year out, it was so well attended, it was
such a big celebration, and I was wondering, you know,
new brooms, sweet clean, or can they sustain it as
this is kicked off this month. They've had a great
event last week, the capitol packed.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
No, I think it's it's great and it's timely because
on the program, I hope we discuss where the New
York Times just came out with a frightening piece off
ed piece about the Constitution is sacred, it's also dangerous.
And there are headlines road in the New York Times
over the last six seven months that have really been
attacking our United States Constitution. They hate this republic. They

(08:46):
want the nine million in La County to dwarf out
the three and a half million people that vote and
are in Utah. They want majority rules on everything.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
That's what they want. That's what they want.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
All right.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
It's timely, Yeah, all right. Speaking of that, the attack
on free speech, yes, that is taking place, not only
in this country but around the world, really great, kind
of frightening.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
So I just I want to I really want to
just show you the dominoes that have fallen just within
the last seven days, Okay. And I don't know how
long ago was it that the Zuckerberg told Congress, Hey,
you know what, I was actually pressured by Biden administration
and I was by government to censor on a meta
on Facebook and Instagram.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
And he regrets it.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And he's talking about how that pressure came to his
company and how he succumbed to it, and he was
really it was kind of a bit of a confessional.
So Zuckerberg, he admits that the government forced or pushed
upon him censorship of real news, and he acknowledges it
was real news that they were keeping me from having
on my platform. Well, then so that happens, and then

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in France you find out that in France they arrest
the guy, the billionaire Pabble, the guy that started was
a telegram. Yeah, because he doesn't censor, and he doesn't
collect the data of he doesn't data mine people's information
and sell it off to people and allow that to happen.
And so they have said, well, because you do that.

(10:10):
There's things that you allow on your platform that's illegal.
So they've arrested him in France. So he's been arrested,
this billionaire, he's in his private jet. They go and
they arrest him.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Brazil.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Now this if you see a picture of this attorney
from this Brazilian judge, Okay, he's the scariest looking guy,
and he makes Doctor Evil from look like look like
a kittie, a pussy cat. Brazil is trying to deep
platform X as fast and as furious as they can,
and it's working to some to some extent. But this

(10:44):
is they've actually even threatened their own citizens that if
they use a VPN, what you know, they could be
fined up to three thousand dollars. They are trying to
absolutely stifle free speech in Brazil. Okay, And then I've
got this story here and I don't know if we'll
even have time to listen to the audio. But this
poor teacher from Ireland, okay, he's I think it's actually

(11:05):
a religious school too. He doesn't want to refer to
a male student with the pronouns she and her I
kid you not the video I'm watching it. I mean,
people have posted this, they arrest him, They throw him
in the paddywagon for this. With all the crime, with
all the riots, with all the craziness going on around
this world, they are throwing this teacher in jail, arresting

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him and throw him in jail because he won't say
the pronouns that this kid wants him to repeat. That
I mean, So the point is all of that's going on,
and it starts where I started with Zuckerberg. But then
you have like this Robert Reisch that he was the
labor secretary for Clinton. He's doing all these things saying, yeah,
good on your Brazil. Elon Musk should be arrested. You

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have all the left in this country arguing that all
of these moves in UK's move that if you post
anything that could not create violence but would incite hate
by their definition of whatever that is, and that usually
hate is something that the left doesn't agree with, then
you can get you can get arrested. And they are
pushing that they've got riots going on with people that

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have entered their country, and they're going after people on
social media platforms for inciting hateful speech. You take and
so you're seeing this full You're just seeing this full
frontal attack on freedom of speech. You're seeing it in September,
You're seeing at the end of August this thing is
going to roll out. Because this is like one of

(12:30):
those black Swans. I'm going to tell you, I think
that if they want Kamala Harris to win, you have
to hate Trump and you have to be everything to everyone,
and the truth is an inconvenient thing for them. So
how do you shut down our conduits of communication in
this country? They're working very hard to do it around
the world, and that's coming to our shores very quickly.
And so you know, good we have constitutional months because

(12:52):
you know, freedom of speech is kind of one of
our things.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Well, I was going to say, is this a time
for a time to think and the Constitution, to study
it and to stand up for it, Because you're right, Greg,
You've got a series of headlines that hopefully we'll have
a chance to talk with Tad about talking about the
headlines of how the Constitution is under attack. And these
are major newspapers in this country that are leading the

(13:16):
effort through their op ed opinion and pieces out there
attacking the constitution saying it's hurting democracy. Well, first of all,
they need to. When are they going to understand that
this is not a democracy to begin with, This is
a constitutional republic. Yet they don't seem to realize that.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I think, you know, so, I used to think they
didn't realize it, or they just they were just I
think they hate the republic form of government. I think
they want to peer democracy because this.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Piece of the New York Times.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
They're calling it tyranny of the minority. This whole republic
where a state like Utah can have two senators, like
a state like California only has two. They think this
is an outrage. Yeah, they think that this whole thing
about you know, equal representation of states should go out
the windows.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, you see, you combine that with the attacks on
the Supreme Court. They want to expand the court, the
attacks on the electoral college. They just want to get
rid of the electoral college. Guy crazy popular vote, and
it does drive them nuts. That's why they're attacking the constitution.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And we used to say this for you for decades.
We said, you know, they don't respect the Constitution. They
want to they want to get rid of it. And
they would say aid scoff and say that's not true.
They're saying they're saying the quiet part out loud, and
they're screaming the quiet part out loud. Now it's it's
it is shocking.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
It is very very true. Well, well, that's just part
of the show we've got coming your way today. We've
got a lot to get to. I think it was
a couple of years ago the Utah State Legislature designated
the month of September as Founding Fathers, Founding Fathers and
Constitution Month here in the state of Utah. I think
it is one of the best things in state legislature
has ever done.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
It is and it's it's come at a critical time.
I mean it's it's it was past the number of
years ago. But what we're seeing, Uh, even in the
main the so called regime media, the New York Times
and other and other, I would argue left of center publications,
they're attacking this const This idea that it's how important
a document is is no longer an assumption. It is

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really under attack in real time.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
And that's why it's so important that we recognize the Constitution.
It's important in this state. And that's why it's great
to have Tad Collinster with us Tad, of course, is
the chairman of the Why I Love America Committee, that's
the group behind this. Why is a month like this
Ted so very very important?

Speaker 5 (15:23):
Well, I think we've seen surveys that show that patriotism
is on the decline. You ask, so we have three goals.
One to restore patriotism. To educate people on the Constitution.
They say, what are a thousand people you can name
the five freedoms of the First Amendment. We need some education.

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And thirdly, to help people recognize that God's hand was
and is in America's origin.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And this the events that you planned is all. I mean.
The event that we had just last week to kick
this all off absolutely amazing tent.

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Well it was. We had at the Capitol. We had
the American Heritage choirs saying the place was filled. We
had Governor Cox speak. In fact, he said, I would
like to send a load to every other governor in
the United States inviting them to have a Constitution a
month like we have. We had Doug Owens speak from

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the Democratic Party, Burgess those Owns from the Republican Party.
We had all sorts of activities for school kids to
learn about the Constitution, and then we had refreshments. I
was surprised you weren't there.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Wow, he knows me, Greg, he knows me too well.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
So I have to go to an article that just
came out. It's got a lot of attention from the
New York Times. The name of the of this op
ed piece is the Constitution is sacred? Is it also dangerous?
In this op ed, it talks about it laments that
Trump was elected because of this, this nastal constitution. It

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says Trump owes his political assent to the Constitution, making
him a beneficiary of a document that is essentially anti
democratic and in this day and age, increasingly dysfunctional. It
goes on to talk about what the great compromise was
and in forming this constitution, and you know, it's branches
of government and its house based on population and the
equal representation of states in the Senate. And it says

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that this compromise with the enslavers, the slave states, getting
the better end of the deal. When you hear sentiments
about the Constitution that way, that it benefited just one
candidate in a way, and it's antiquated in this document,
it's demonized because it's elected someone in their minds, someone
like Trump, and that the Compromise, the Grand Compromise of

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this Constitution only benefited in slavers, and that is it's
at its heart as a document. Well, how would you
respond to that, because that's being said today from the
New York Times and people are saying that with a
straight face.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Well, I've had people tell me that the Constitution codified slavery,
and I say, well, that's interesting. If the Constitution codified
slavery and it's the highest law of the land, how
did the Congress in the same year adopt the Northwest

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Ordinance to prohibited slavery in the territories? And how did
the Constitution allow in twenty years for the Congress to
prevent the importation of slaves if it was the highest
law of the land and prohibited slavery. In fact, the
Dred Scott case, probably the worst case in the history

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of the US, Yes, basically took the position that the
Constitution codified slavery, and Abraham Lincoln corrected. The Chief judge said,
you basically don't get it. The Constitution set the ideal,
but it wasn't going to happen immediately, just like revelation

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comes lying upon line precepts. Upon three precept the ideals
would be enacted and enforced and made available lined upon line,
the Northwest Ordinance, the prohibitation of importation of slaves, the
Civil War, the thirteenth four fifteenth Amendment. It was a

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steppingstone that brought about all these freedoms, including the elimination
of slavery.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
That out there today, I mean greatious quota day an
article in the New York Times. But there are a
lot of people authors out there, columnists out there who
are constantly attacking the Constitution. Who were the defenders? Who
do you look to and say they are doing the
right thing in defending the Constitution?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
And it's important, Well, if you want to find the truth,
I asked, first, as the Lord spoken on the subject,
can have so well as he said. And the Lord
has spoken on the subject, he said, the Constitution was
established by wise men who he raised up. Then next

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I go to the primary sources, those who were on
the theme. James Madison, who the father of the Constitution,
said the hand of God was evolved in this. George
Washington said the hand of God was evolved in this.
Then I go to historians who weren't there on the scene,

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but quote primary sources. And lastly, I go to the ideologists.
Revision is historians who don't quote primary sources but just
promote their ideologies. For example, I just read a book
entitled The Godless Constitution, written by two professors. As I

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went through, I kept saying, this is not what's in
the primary source. I looked for the footnote, none, page
after page, now one footnote in the entire book to
college profelsors and at the end they say, the reason
we didn't use primary sources references to them is because

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it is generally known by all historians and political sciences.
This is an academic disaster. I would have given them
a half cloud.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
An academic wink and nod is what that is. And
I don't think that flies in academia, really serious academics.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, Tod, final question for you, I mean, this is
just a stort. You've got a lot of great events
coming up in the next several weeks during the month
of September. I think Greg and Ironball, have you been
asked you have been asked to read the Constitution? To
read the Constitution? Have you been asked?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
No, They're trying to keep it a high class event.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Because they know you can't read but that and you've
got so many great events. Where should people go to
find out the information if they want to get people involved, d.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
We have a website and tell you why I Love
America dot org, and they can go to that website
and find out the event that we have.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Dad.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Always great to have you on. Good luck on another
successful month. Thanks for joining, Greg, and I did, thank you.

Speaker 5 (22:22):
You're terrific.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
All right, all right, all right, Todd Collins theories with
the I Love America Committee and Constitution Month here in
the state of Utah. Greg, and I tell you what,
this is a fun event each and every year.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It is we need some fun. This this whole election
has been has been frustrating and crazy. We need something
that is uplifting and wholesome. And this celebration is absolutely
critical and the times we're living in right now. So
I appreciate the vision and the commitment. This doesn't happen
by itself. It takes a lot of hours and a
lot of patriots to put this together.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
When I get to read the Constitution, yeah that's what
I heard. I heard that. Maybe I wasn't by it.
I don't Maybe we each get like one line. That's
all they're going to give us. Everyone else it's like paragraphs.
We get one line.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well, I'm just happy to be there. If I get invited,
you know.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
I'll get free lunch. Yeah, it's free food. It's free
food lunch. I mean, what more do we want? All right?
Still a lot to come on The Rod and Greg Show.
Just another reminder. We already have one winner. We have
another winner coming up sometime during the show today. You'll
win tickets to see Tucker Carlston and Glenn Beck together
Saturday night at the Delta Center. And before that, they
get us. No, I didn't forget it. I just I

(23:27):
was That was a suspenseful pause. Huckleberry grill, huckleberry grill. Yes,
and Greg is buying, by the way, So come home.
It's weighing on my mind.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
It might be a chilling effect to the listeners if
they have to have dinner with us. You don't have
to have to if you don't want to, bit.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
We can't stay.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Huckleberry grill. A real treat for them, yes, I think so.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, what you eat? Yes, it's a real treat. All right.
A lot to come here on The Rod and Greg Show.
And Utah's talk radio one oh five nine can arrest
a week ago. Yesterday, President Trump attended a wreath lane
ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery, and the purpose was to
honor the thirteen service members who were killed in the
attack in Kabble at the airport there in twenty twenty one.

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The former president was accompanied by a photographer and a videoographer,
and the ceremony produced during images. Right, I mean, if
you've seen some of the pictures and some of the video,
it's pretty amazing. Well, quickly the Democrats jumped all over it,
claiming that Donald Trump was yet politicizing this event.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, they knew that they were on the wrong side
of history on this, that this was a really bad
decision by Eric Kamala Harris to not attend, to ignore
it entirely. They did that because they know they're responsible,
and they don't want to lose any votes, and they
want to be all things to all people, so they
couldn't attend. But they knew that that's not a good
look either. So what do they do make it about?

(24:47):
We hit Donald Trump? Donald Trump did something.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Wrong and this was this happened to us. See, Biden
was put into office in January. This happened in August,
in his first year in office, and Greg Whale have
to annoy it was almost I remember watching it, and
I was on vacation at the time and watching those
planes trying to get off the ground and people hanging
on them and saying, this is an embarrassment to the

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United States of America. It was.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And I had people tell me all Biden's in trouble,
he'll never get elected because and it was early in
new presidency, and I said, the American people's memory will
be short. But what you're finding back then, the American media,
because they were in this international pool of journalists, they
were pretty critical of Biden and his administration for how
poorly this had been done. But as soon as they

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got away from their peers from the foreign press and
they were back in the United States, they moved on.
And they have never ever held that Biden or Kamla
to the same standards they did when it was happening
in real time. They've just want everyone to forget it.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, there's no doubt that the Harris campaign crossed the
line on this one. The question is will the American
public remember this? Well? The Gold Star. Families who lost
loved ones in that attack on the airport will remember it,
and they sent me messages to Kamala. Here's a montage
what they had to say.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
This is Mark Schmidz, Gold Star, father of Marieland's Corporal
Jared Schmidz. I got to stop what I'm doing to
address a heinous, vile and disgusting post put out by
Kamala Harris.

Speaker 8 (26:24):
Vice President Harris, my name is Christy Shamblin. My daughter
in law, Sergeant Nicole Leanne Ge, was killed in the
Afghanistan exit at Abbey Gate on August twenty sixth, twenty
twenty one. This year, for the third year anniversary of
her murder, we welcome President Donald J. Trump to Arlington

(26:46):
to lea wreath on the tomb of the Unknown Soldier
with our family and to visit Nicole Grave's side. President
Trump and his team were respectful. They listened to our
stories and didn't talk much at all. We welcomed them
that day and they were comfort to our family.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Vice President Harris, my name is Steph mc cooey.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
I'm the father of Lance Corporal Kareem M. N.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Cooy and your administration killed my son.

Speaker 9 (27:17):
My name is Darren Hoover, and I'm the gold Star
father of the United States Marine Corps Staff Sergeant Taylor Hoover.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Kamala.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
I want you to understand, and I know it will
be difficult for you because you lack empathy and basic understanding.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
The events that happened on August.

Speaker 9 (27:38):
Twenty six, twenty twenty four, with President Trump at Arlington
National Cemetery were solemn and in keeping with the reverence
and respect that is given to all members of our
military that are buried there. We invited President Trump. We
are the ones that asked for the video and the

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pictures to be taken at the two of the unknown Soldier.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
There you have, you have those, you know, those gold
Star families, And I love the point that was made
at the end by the father of the Utah man
it was killed. They asked for the photographers, they asked
for video being taken of when President Trump was there.
They wanted to remember that. Yet here you have the
Harris campaign attacking Donald Trump for making sure photographers and
videographers are there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well again it's it's and I don't think I I
it's just not going to fly. I don't find anything
presidential about Kamala Harris, I mean there was nothing vice
presidential about her. I mean it used to she the
late night people, the regime media would mock her. There
was no no one thought that she was a serious
one day candidate for president. They talked earlier on about

(28:48):
removing her from the ticket so Biden would have a
better chance. But once it became clear that Biden couldn't win,
everything that's happened since then, they have tried to prop
her up and put her in a role that she
just does not fit. She does not fit by way
of disposition. She has no policy. She cannot speak even
with the friendliest of media with loving arms, she cannot

(29:09):
speak with him because she will have gaffes, She will
have mistakes. She will say things that either she'll be
held to which people don't agree with or offend people
like she has these golden star families. She had a
very bad Labor Day weekend, very bad. There are no
polls that I can find, and I've been scouring that
are showing her climbing in the last four days. And

(29:31):
Labor Day that is kind of a Democrat holiday. That's
when you can go to Pittsburgh and you go to
Detroit and you can really get the unions excited. I
don't think any of that happened. Well, it's been a
big fail.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Well when you say that didn't have Apparently she did
learn accents, yes, and you going to play that because
this is amazing. She apparently picked up some accents. Now,
Labor Day yesterday, she spoke to labor unions and where
Detroit and in Pittsburgh? Right, she said the exact same
thing at both events, but with a bit of a
different twist. See, if you can catch this.

Speaker 10 (30:04):
You better thank a union member for sick leave.

Speaker 11 (30:06):
You better thank a union member for paid leave.

Speaker 6 (30:09):
You better thank a union member for vacation time.

Speaker 12 (30:13):
Bank unions pacickly, bank unions for pay family leave, bank
unions for a vacation time.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
No, I haven't unted around Detroit or Pittsburgh in either place.
I know you grew up in Pittsburgh, but I didn't
know Detroit had an accent like that. But apparently it does.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, I think I think the demographics are different in
southwest Pennsylvania from downtown Detroit, So I think her audience
looked different, and I think that her cadence changed based
on the audience she was in front of, and therein
lies the lesson. She is a chameleon. She's someone who's
going to speak and say and act the way that like,

(30:52):
where are the people going so I can lead them there?
She is that she is just there's not an ounce
of authenticity to this woman in any way, shape or form.
And I love it because in that speech, okay, it's
just so it's it's it's irony. But nobody, you know,
from the regime media wanted to pick up on it.
When she was in Pittsburgh and look, I was paying
attention to the Pittsburgh Labor Day I remember those those

(31:15):
those uh, those Labor Day parades. I've attended them as
a kid. It was so funny because she said there's
two visions here, and she's talking to the audience and
she says, you know that the her vision, her vision
is that she wants to be focused on the future.
She wants to be focused on and and that Trump
wants to be focused on the past. Well that might

(31:36):
sound okay, but she says she's all about the fighting
for the future, future, not present or past. Future, dignity,
respect and opportunity for all people. She has to say that,
Rod because present and past, there is no dignity or
opportunity for anybody that anyone's lived through over the last
three and a half years. And if Trump does want
to look back, I would take those four years of

(31:58):
the of grocery costs and gas bills and a border
in public safety, and a stronger military presence around the world.
I would take all of that. So if he's looking
back to that, I sign me up.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
Yeah, I think, sign me up. Okay, they raise their hand.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
She wasn't talking about the future because she can't own
a single thing that's happened in the last three and
a half years.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Oh, she sure can't. All right, we've got we want
to get to your phone calls. Two veterans out there.
We've got a lot of veterans who listened to us.
Eight eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero
triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero. What
are your thoughts on what the former president did with
the gold Star families at Arling didn't bother me one bit.
I'm glad someone paid attention to them. But he's been
criticized for doing this from whom Ah, the Democrats eight

(32:38):
eight eight five seven O eight zero one zero eight
eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero, give
us a caller dial pound two fifty and simply say, hey,
run we're talking about what happened a week ago yesterday
with the President at Arlington National Cemetery at the request
of these gold Star families who lost lost loved ones
in the attack at the airport in Coubble back in
August of what was it, twenty twenty one, and we've

(33:01):
opened up the phones. I want to hear from you
veterans because the Democrats are attacking the former president for
doing this, even attacking the gold Star families or inviting
the President to be there. We'd like to get your
thoughts on it. Let's go to the phones and let's
hear from Alex and Harriman tonight here on the Rodden
Greig Show. Hi Alex, how are you.

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Kid? How are you?

Speaker 1 (33:20):
And we're doing well.

Speaker 6 (33:21):
I just want to make some quick, quick decisions trying
to consolidate it. It'll be a little bit of policy,
a little bit of training, and a little bit of operations.
So in the Army, which I served twenty one years in,
I was a counterintelligence special agent, an interrogator and a
strategic intelligence officer been through the whole staff routine. But

(33:41):
what you do is before any operation, part of your planning,
which is very deliberate, is a commander asked you for
a risk assessment, and the operations that took bait that
took place in that evacuation seemed as if the command
and risk assessment assessment was completely ignored. Yes, now, that

(34:04):
risk assessment is informed by what police would call a
confidential informant or a source or a spy that counter
intelligence agents and others put out into the crowd that
are supposed to be informing you of the enemy's intent
against you, and you're supposed to heed that and be
prepared for that. But what we saw was a gaggle.

(34:27):
I mean, any attempt to have a show of force
or a standoff or anything that would have protected the
operation seemed to be ignored. And at the lieutenant colonel
or colonel level who was running that operation, the only
person above him who can tell him to not follow

(34:49):
his risk assessment would be the chain of command, which
basically goes from the colonel to the general, to the
sec death to the president. I think it was going
all the way up to the president. Because that was
a big operation.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
I agree with you, Alex that the entire, the entire,
the hastiness, the way they tried to do this so
quickly was because they wanted to have that big press
event on nine to eleven and say we are the
ones that got out of the war, We're the ones
that did it ignored some of the withdrawal that the
Trump administration had wanted to see around winter time, where
the Taliban would have a more difficult time traversing the

(35:26):
mountains to get there, to give this new government a
chance to get their feet under them. He wanted it
all for the press event. He certainly didn't want to
show any force at these gates prior to that press event.
That's what that's what guided them.

Speaker 13 (35:38):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
I think what really rubs Americans wrong right now? What
was it three weeks ago where the Taliban rolled out
all that military hardware to the tune of eighty five
billion dollars in a big parade just to embarrass America. Yeah,
and it's just like, does anybody pay attention to any
of that eighty five billion dollars? In greg we just
walked away.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
I'm hard pressed to find a single thing that this
administration has done that hasn't come back to harm us
in some way. I mean, even down to the crime,
the catch and release, and the madness that's going on
in our streets with crime, either it's illegal aliens or
just common criminals. This number one draft pick for the
San Francisco forty nine ers shot in broad daylight this
weekend because they want the guy wanted his Rolex watch. Yeah,

(36:22):
I mean that's how it is. I mean, now, so
that gets covered in the sports channels and the sports media.
There's and that's just that is a direct result of
how the how Soros has got these county attorneys and
DA's that will not charge crimes. You've got up to
one thousand dollars you can steal and shop lift, and
stores are closing, and now you have, you know, this
type of crime happening in broad daylight. It's there's just

(36:44):
not one thing I can see that has ever gotten better.
Everything's getting worse.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Well.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Well, the other story in relationship to the forty nine
ers rookie was the young girl in a high school
game and she was attacked by an illegal alien who
had been deported ones came back to into the country
and just out of random he stabbed her in the
arm with a knife. Yes, it is happening more and
more frequently, Greg to every day Americans, and sooner or later,

(37:07):
every day Americans are going to wake up and say
we've had enough.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
There's so many there are so many things to see
and observe that they cannot hide from. And I'm just
you're not going to see it from the regime media.
But I think we continue to talk about these things.
It's just it's gonna be it's gonna be logical.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Yeah, it will be all right. We've got a lot
to get too. Still here on the road and Greg
Show in Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs.
There is no doubt you and I have talked about
this for quite some time now. Greg. The effort on
the part of the media to protect Kamala Harris, I
mean and her handlers. I mean, she's done what she
did the CNN interview. Did you notice on that CNN

(37:43):
and interview this is it was a body language thing
to meet Greg, and she looks ball compared to Timmy.
Was it me or did she just.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
The whole Even where they were sitting it was like
they found a side room somewhere and you could see
that the window outside on the side it looked like
it was so happy, hazardly put together. And a forty
minute interview of which only what.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Eighteen minutes Jean was saying earlier today.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I think that, I think that, I think the pressure
continues to build because the more she avoids, the more
people are going to want to hear her say something.
Although she spoke over the Labor Day and it didn't
serve her well.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
She she used her accent talent. She used the accent. Yes,
I wait to take to take with our and a
week from today is the big debate. A week from today,
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
I think that she's just going to be She's gonna
have righteous indignation the whole time. She's going to feel
offended and try to say that Trump's just being poorish
and rude, and that will be all she'll say.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Well, our voting start, Our voter is starting to catch
onto her stick, as they say. Brianna Lyman is a
elections correspondent at the Federalists, joining us again on our
newsmaker line to talk about this. Brianna, how are you
welcome back to the Roden greg Show. Thanks for being with.

Speaker 14 (38:55):
Us, Brianna, thanks so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Do you think voters are starting to cat you onto
this a little bit? Brandon?

Speaker 14 (39:03):
I don't think the right sect of voters are. I
think that voters who are independent, voters who may tendally
more conservatively, are keenly aware of what's going on. I
think obviously conservatives are. But I don't think that Democrats
and independents who voted for Biden in twenty twenty are
at that same point yet. And the reason I say
that is because Media Research Center came out the whole

(39:24):
recently and have found that more than seventy percent of
Democrats and independents who voted for Biden in twenty twenty
are completely unaware of Kamala Harris's policy positions on things
like immigration, econmy crime throughout her tenure as Senator vice president,
i e. They don't know what a radical she's been
because the propaganda press is hiding it.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
So here's the question if they never find out, is
does that dissuade them from voting for her or does
that record, that radical record have to be understood To
see independence continue to shift towards Trump's camp pain.

Speaker 14 (40:01):
Yeah, I think it's definitely the latter of the two,
because they think if you if you hear her recent
attempts at rebranding herself. So we're talking, you know, expanding
the child tax credits, no tax on tips, just today
saying that US Steel needs to needs to be a
US owned company. Those are all great policies, but they're
not her actual policy positions. Those are policies that she

(40:24):
has stolen from Donald Trump because they are politically expedient
for her now. And the real question will be will
she abandon those policy stances and the individuals that they
impact once they are no longer politically convenient. And if
you know her record, and you're cougnizant of you know,
her wanting to ban tracking, how she's really decimated the
southern border, you'll know that we should trust her based

(40:45):
on her actions and not her words.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Brandon, from what you're seeing right now, how hard is
the media working right now to try and separate Kamala
Harris away from the economic policies of Joe Biden. How
hard are they working at this?

Speaker 14 (40:59):
Oh? This, They're working over time, and they're not just
trying to do it on her economy they're trying to
do it obviously with the borders are you know, Dana
Bash last week does an interview with Kamala and we're
supposed to forget that. Just weeks prior, Dana Bash gets
on CNN and says, well, Kamala wasn't. Actually the borders are,
despite the fact that.

Speaker 12 (41:16):
Kamala was pointed by Biden right right, she was all
those things, and they're trying to memory hole her entire
careers record because it is not politically advantageous for her
and it doesn't appeal to any moderate or centrist, which
is why Kamala is undergoing this.

Speaker 14 (41:33):
Intensive rebrand as you know, honestly someone who founds a
little conservative.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
So I think there's a there was an ad. I
have family in Pittsburgh. They're seeing a lot of Kamala
Harris and Donald Trump adds. One of one of the
Donald Trump ones that's funny and that people talk about
is the one where Kamala Harris is debating herself. She's
talking about how bad economics are and how much expensive
everything is, and then she's heralding how great Bidenomics is
working and how how well it is. So so they

(42:00):
like that commercial that's kind of hopefully letting people know
that she's not consistent at the least. Will the will
the debate Randa will that? Will that reveal anything to
the average voter? Do you think there will be anything
of substance or anything to expose her record or what
she's been a part of in the last three and
a half years in the debate.

Speaker 14 (42:21):
I think it first depends on, obviously whether or not
the moderators want to even try to portray a semblance
of you know, nonpartisanship, which I don't think they will.
They're going to toss her softballs, they may give her
a few, you know, hardballs, but ultimately their focus will
be on trying to get Donald Trump to trip up.
That being said, I think it's up to Donald Trump
to practice his answers in a way that both it's

(42:43):
on commalist pass records. So, for instance, quickly noting that
she has always supported banning fracking and has now switched positions,
and then immediately going back to his own records supporting
cracking in the United States, supporting keeping our energy domestic.
There's a way for him to tie the two together
without making the say, let's point our fingers at Kamala
because if he does that, all you're going to hear

(43:04):
from the mainstream media and Kamala Harris is Oh. Donald
Trump has no policy records. He couldn't even talk about them.
That's how poor his campaign is.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Brand On final question, I don't care how it comes out.
If it's good for her bad for her. I think
we're only going to get one debate between Donald Trump
and Kamala Harris. Would you agree or disagree?

Speaker 14 (43:23):
Oh, I totally agree. I would love to have two debates.
I think that if her first debate goes the way
that I anticipated to go, she will absolutely not do
a second debate. I think if the mice were guaranteed
to be on for a third debate, she might consider
so that she could get rid of all her I'm
speaking t shirt.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Brianda is always great chatting with you. Thank you, Thank
you so much. All right, Brianda Lyman, she has an
elections correspondent with the Federal Less talking about the media's
efforts to protect Kamala Harris and you were talking the
other day. That was that the Washington Post, you pointed
out was fact checking her on a lot of the
issues that she has raised, she's made I think, I think,

(44:02):
where do I see it that she lied one hundred
and thirty three times during her DNC acceptance speech. It's three.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
It's just surprising me that the fact checker on CNN
and even the Washington Post they are finding this. They
are running ads in Pennsylvania right now, and I know
this from my sources in the Keystone State that Trump
is the author of and promoter of Project twenty twenty five.
It cannot be said enough by CNN fact checkers, Washington

(44:31):
Post fact checkers, everyone, that he has not embraced, he
has not endorsed Project twenty twenty five. There's probably conservative
things that are probably smart in there, but they are
trying to attach him to this, to what they describe
as this draconian, scary, nine hundred page whatever it is,
and he has no touch on it. It is just
so patently and verifiably false. And they are running ads

(44:53):
NonStop this whole Labor Day weekend attaching him saying this
is his Project twenty twenty five, this is what he's
going to do the country. It's I don't know, And
even their own media can't even let that.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Go on address.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
They're they're even correcting it, so I don't know why
she keeps doing it.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
That's going to shock you today, Let's say a story
from Tim Graham, who works for MRC NewsBusters, right, he said.
Washington Post media critic Eric Whimple published a surprising chat
with two liberal Post columnists over the weekend. It's surprising
because those liberal columnists both agreed Kamala Harris and Tim
Walls should submit to interviews with Fox News.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Yes, good for that, Wow, wow for them.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Whimple merely asked what approach they should take. Bacon replied,
based on her strategy, now she shouldn't. Shouldn't she do
an interview at the border with Fox and talk about
the border agents she is going to hire. That would
take a lot, but she can't do it because she
doesn't understand the issue to begin with. Raig the other guy.

(45:54):
Vandreelin added, I think the campaign should make Walls available
twenty four to seven to Fox. He ran for Congress
one in a red district again and again. They have
no moves that he hasn't seen one hundred times, and
they should put Harris on Fox and Friends. Wouldn't that
be interesting?

Speaker 2 (46:10):
And what I would love to know is why doesn't
his own brother want to see him become president or
vice president? His brother, now he's got a little bit
of a check. He was a teacher and he took
like thirteen bucks from a Walmart or something like that
for bicycle hose. No, it was this brother. But you
know it's in the DNA. These guys are bit I'm
just saying, like he says, I'm one hundred percent of

(46:31):
post to all of his ideology. I mean, his brother
is not even voting for him. Yeah, I'd love to.
I didn't navigate that. I mean, the brother might know
a little more than we do about old Governor Tim Wallas.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
You know, isn't it funny in this campaign so far
you had Timmy's brother come out and go after his brother.
You had the entire Kennedy clan go after RFK Junior.
I've never seen anything like that in a campaign where
the entire families are going after each other.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Well, the Kennedy's kind of It's really disappointing because I mean,
at least RFK has been thoughtful and he's had these
issues that he's been talking about. He's not flipping around,
he's not changing, he's not doing all of that.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
NFL starts this week. Well, there are some.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Great college football games this weekend. Loved it, loved it.
The Notre Dame game was great against.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
LSU USC game was great. Yep. But can you find
a worst quarterback? No? Then my kid who played for
Florida State. I will.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
I do not know what that team that Florida State was.
They argued they should have been in the playoffs last year,
that that that kid was so bad.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Well, he started at Clemson. It didn't work out in Clemson.
Remember he was at Oregon State last year.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
I forgot he went to Oregon State, then.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
Comes back to Florida State. He could not hit the
broadside of a barn.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
He had so many open receivers and it just was.
It was unwatchable. You couldn't watch it.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
There's a yeah, are you optimistic for I know you're
a big Steelers fan. Are you optimistic?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I have a I have a very different take for
this year. I usually am very excited. I all I
know is that Russell Wilson and back up Justin Fields,
who used to be the starring quarterback for the Bears
and was the number one pick. Uh, Either one of
them are better than the Kenny Picketts who used to
be our quarterback. So whatever we have, we have, we
have traded up. I don't know what that means. We
have the worst schedule by the way we play all

(48:15):
our all of our division rivals. We played them at
the end of the season within six weeks, five weeks
of each other. It's it's it's actually been ranked the
hardest schedule in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's ridiculous. And I don't know. I don't know whether
to be excited or I really don't care about the
Cowboys this year. I don't I don't know. I mean,
Dak is in contract dispute with Jerry, and they're saying
it's so typical, pretty good to him.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
When he got hurt with his knee, he was out,
he was kind of a vulnerable. He didn't have to
get picked up, and Jerry did the right thing by him.
But he hasn't proferreds haven't been to the playoffs. You know,
I don't know where you want to go in the segment.
But speaking of football, only the only in Philadelphia where
they cheat at everything they do, whether it be sports
or whether it be politics and campaigns and elections. They

(48:59):
put Kamala Harris and a and a Philadelphia Eagles helmet
at the bus stop, saying that the Philadelphia Eagles have
officially endorsed Kamala Harris and they're so used to cheating,
they were so surprised that anyone noticed that this was
a total farce.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
And it was and it was a first.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
The Eagles are like, we have not endorsed Kamala Harris
for president and we are looking into it.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
All cal artists who did this? Right?

Speaker 13 (49:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I mean why, you know, how how how cavalier they
are cheap?

Speaker 1 (49:27):
That's Philly.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
They never you know what, that would never fly in
Pittsburgh Bay. You try to put her in that helmet,
that would come down within an hour. Everybody will saying,
no way.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
No way. Well let's talk about going back to school.
Kids are back in class. Article today. This was an
essay written by the Surgeon General, THEVEC Murphy in the
New York Times, and the headline reads, parents are at
their wits end. We can do better and there are
young parents out there who are stressed to the max anymore.
Joining us on our any hour Newsmaker line right now

(49:57):
is Jenny how Jenny is a therapist, a mental health consultant.
Always great to have Jenny on the show. Jenny has
said parents are at their wits end. You deal with
this each and every day. What are your thoughts on this.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Jenny, I think it's probably the most common thing I
deal with, above and beyond even social media, which I
know is another topic that we're just talking more and
more about. But I think the pressure that parents feel
right now to really give their kids like the ultimate
life is at an all time high, and of course
that's causing an incredible amount of stress.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Jenny, here's my question.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You mentioned the ultimate life, what about when I look
at I'm a parent, but my children are young adults,
maybe technically adults in some cases. But just the cost
of living the idea that you know, I came from
a single mom situation, probably lived in poverty, but I
was able to lift myself up and have a very

(50:51):
different life than the one I was born into. I
look at my children and I fundamentally worry about their
ability to afford a home, have a job that can
you know, provide those things. So is it the ultimate
life or is it just the life that maybe a
lot of Americans have taken for granted?

Speaker 14 (51:06):
Up to this point, I think a little bit of both.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
I think that the pressure that parents feel now culturally
in America is quite different than our parents felt. I
come from a similar history as yours, where parents, you know,
we're really working hard but also really kind of struggle
to make meet at different times than I myself have
been there. So I do think that there is a
cultural shift in the way that we parent our kids.
I think we feel a lot more anxiety and a

(51:31):
lot more societal pressure to do things well. And also
I agree with you, I think that the cost of
living is astronomically high, and also I think that there's
a way for our children to be able to access
that at some point, but it plays a role. The
economy plays a huge role in our kids feeling like
or I guess parents feeling like they're offering their kids

(51:53):
the best start, Jenny.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Do we want to give our kids too much? I mean,
there's so much out there now and it's so readily available.
It wasn't like that when I was growing up, and
I don't think when Greg was growing up as well.
Do we want to give our children everything that we
can possibly give them? And is that where some of
that pressure is coming from one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Yes, I think that we feel like we're responsible as
parents to provide all of the emotional you know, spectrum
of emotions that our children can have in life, and
really they need to figure those things out for themselves.
I think we've really overcorrected in the way that we parent.
Where we you know, a long time ago, maybe when
we were all kids. Right, we're old now, so we

(52:33):
can say that we didn't really have you know, our
parents guiding us and shepherding us with every single emotion
that we had. They kind of just allowed us to
feel our own strength and our own confidence in our
emotional ability and our emotional agility. Really, and now, I
think parents really feel a lot of pressure to kind
of overcorrect and to step in and to adjust and

(52:54):
to teach. And I think that, you know, the greatest
teacher we have is our own experience, our own learned experience.
And I don't think kids are given the opportunity to
experience feelings as much, which creates a lack of resiliency
as great grow.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I so agree with you. My kids I grew up.
My kids have been raised in draper. I call all
three of my children draper Soft. They're just Draper Soft.
These kids they just know but anyway they're turn out. Okay,
let me ask you this. You mentioned this technology and
social media. There's a lot of discussion about this creating
loneliness and isolation, is isolation amongst young people. But I

(53:29):
would argue, at least from it actually can connect you.
Social media can connect you. When I was young, you
had to have an audible bile to get around to
see friends, or you had to be on the phone
and the wire was connected to the wall. But now
with social media there is ways to connect so broadly.
Is it one or the other? Is it creating people

(53:49):
becoming more isolated and lonely or are you able to
communicate at a higher level through technology and social media nowadays.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
Well, I am just so glad to hear somebody bring
up that point because I really agree with you. I
think social media has a huge avenue for creating connectedness.
I know, I have a son with special needs, pretty
significant disabilities, and some of the best friends that I
have I've really aligned with over social media and they
help me feel really seen and connected. And also I

(54:19):
think that the comparison driven that everybody is an expert
kind of mentality that we see on social media can
really make people feel like they need to do things
a certain way in order to be seen and connected
and to be a good parent and to be a
good friend. And I think sometimes when we're innodated with
so much misinformation, quite frankly, it creates kind of this
loneliness where we're like, man, I'm not like anybody else.

(54:42):
I'm not waking up at four thirty am and running
five miles and doing, you know, creating a meal plan
for every day.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm just goodness because you're somal because we're not crazy
waking up at four thank you.

Speaker 4 (54:56):
No, that'll never happen, not in this Sunseide.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Let me ask you, Jenny, sometimes, do we lay too
much blame on social media? I mean, is that an
easy thing? Oh, it's social media's fault and not our
fault as parents to begin with. Do we lay the
blame too much at the feet of social media? Yes?

Speaker 4 (55:14):
I can't tell you how many panels I've spoken on
where I've gone toe to toe with people who also
argue this point. But I think the research is really clear.
The research shows that like, yes, our kids are progressively
getting a little more anxious and depressed. And also we
recognize that, and that's a real part of statistical norms, right,
is the more that we become aware of something, the

(55:35):
more that we actually see it and address it and
deal with it. And I think social media plays the role.
And I think it plays a role for people who
are already probably pretty predisposed to be avoidant people. And
that goes you know, people with anxieting depression are predisposed
to be more avoidant. But the rest of us that
don't have a predisposition to have an actual diagnosis in

(55:57):
those areas. I don't see it creating.

Speaker 11 (56:00):
The havoc that it does.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
I think it can provide a real great opportunity for
all of us, myself included, to learn how to moderate
because the gifts that we get through social media and
through the Internet, I think are here to stay, and
I think we need to learn how to address it
without blaming it for the way that we feel.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Final question. For me, at least, adversity it was just
part of life growing up. It wasn't something you had
the luxury of avoiding or embracing. It's just adversity just came.
Are our children lacking adversity? Is adversity now seen as
something so bad that you have to avoid all of that?

(56:38):
Where does the role what does adversity play in the
lives of our emerging workforce? Are young people growing up?
Are they facing that adversity?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Is it there?

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Have we done too much as helicopter parents to prevent
them from going through adversity? Where's adversity in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, I think we've really demonized adversity. I think that
we've really labeled a lot of things that societally just
quite uncomfortable. Dating, you know, asking somebody for their phone number,
going out, you know with a new friend, all of
those things. We kind of demonized the discomfort that we
feel to be bad and discomfort is.

Speaker 14 (57:13):
A part of everyday living.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
We have to have discomfort in order to feel joy, right.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
We have to have both of these offices.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
And so I think that's where the adversity piece kind
of kicks into gear there, Like we just think that
it's a bad thing rather than a tool for us
to really recognize the positive things.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Jenny, here's my final question as well. I'm a parent
right now who feels I'm falling short I'm just not
doing what I need to do as a parent. If
you gave people and imagine there are a lot of
people out there who feel the same way, what bit
of advice would you give to them, Jenny.

Speaker 4 (57:45):
I would say, take fifteen minutes for yourself. Go take
a break, Go drive to the gas station and grab
a bite, coke or whatever your thing is, and breathe
and listen to some music and just remind yourself that
you're an actual human being as a parent. Right because
we stick ourselves in this role of parent, we forget
that we're human, that we're here to exist, and we're

(58:05):
here to have joy, and we're here to have pleasure.
And our world doesn't need to revolve around our children
in order to give them a great life. We need
to take care of ourselves as well.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
I love that advice, Jenny. Thank you, Jenny Howe. She
has a therapist, a mental health consultant talking about stressed
out parents, and that's great advice. Greg, you and I
should do that during the show, which is just like
the fifteen minutes drive down to Maverick. Give us a
large you know, in your case, a red bull, yes,
and breathe and think how Great America. Is that's right?
Just chill out? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, I want

(58:35):
to if we have, we have a few minutes to
open up the lines here eight eight eight five seven
o eight zero one zer or on your cell phone
dial pound two fifteen and say, hey, Rod to you
young parents out there or grandparents who are watching their children,
who have their own children go through this stressed out
period right now? What are you seeing in What do
you think is causing it?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
I'd like to hear because I think these are helicopter
parents she's talking about, and we see a ton of those.
But then you hear about these parents that abuse their
kids too, So there's like some of that don't care enough. Yeah,
so you got both, you got both. But I'd love
to know what parents were cramped.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
Too much into their schedule? I mean, do we give
them enough time to just be a kid? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:12):
And are they allowed to fail? Like we asked? So
the number of eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero? What say you, folks? I would love
to hear from some parents that are you know, what
do you think stressed out? How you're dealing with Is.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
It too hard? Is it? You know? Is it fine?
Dial pound two fifteen and say hey, Rod, you calls
your comments coming up right here on The Rodden Greg Show,
we had a chat with Jenny Howe. She is a
local Utah therapist, a mental health consultant, talking about stressed
out parents, Well, what about mom and dad? How are
you doing out there? You've got a lot going on
with your kids, you know, all kinds of things, schools,

(59:45):
back in session, sports activities, other activities. You've got a
lot going on. How are you doing? Or do you
see parents or parents more stressed out today than they
were when Greg and I were growing up eight eight
eight five, seven oh eight zero one zero, or on
your cell phone, I'll pound two fifty and say hey Rod,
let's go to Gary in Utah County Gary. How are you?
Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
Good.

Speaker 11 (01:00:07):
How are you?

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
We're doing well? Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
I don't think there's any more stress today than there
was back then. I was born in eighty and I
didn't know if we had money problems. I didn't know
about it. I just got told no, we're not going
to go do that, and that was the end of.

Speaker 11 (01:00:25):
It, and I went on his life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
No doesn't hurt anybody. I think that's the biggest problem
these parents have nowadays is telling their kids no.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Good I agree, h it's not easy. Let's go to
Brian in Bluffdale tonight here on the Rodden Greg Show.
Hi Brian, how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Hey?

Speaker 13 (01:00:42):
Guys, listen, I think your previous caller was correct. He
emulated everything that I was going to tell you. You've got
to be a good parent, no question about it. But
when we have outside influences that affect being a parent,

(01:01:05):
like boys going into girl bathrooms, yeah, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
I I agree. I agree with both. I mean, look,
here's here's the thing. I think we need to be
able to speak plainly to our kids. I've heard somewhere
that say, you know, you're not your pit, your kid's friend,
the parent.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I was about to say that a lot of parents
think they need to be their kid's friend first. No,
you need to be their parent first and then their
friend's second.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
And I also think that, you know, there were some
things I dealt with. I got in fights in school
that my mother never knew anything about. I had things that,
you know, things I did, how she was, she worked,
she was busy. We didn't really talk about it. But no,
you know, kids have to sometimes navigate these things. I
think adversity is good. I think that you navigate some
of these hardships. I think parents today, and I would

(01:01:53):
say even the in my family or even in my community,
we want to avoid all these hardships or we don't
want our kids to go through anything hard that's not
going to help them in the long run. I think
sometimes these kids just have to learn how to how
to navigate it and learn how we have to learn
how to say no and uh anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:02:12):
I agree. I don't know about you, Greg, I get
frustrated with like participation awards. Yeah, me too. You know,
you know, and you you you coached little league football? Yep,
you know what that's like. Did every want to get
an award in little league football? No? No, he did not.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:02:26):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
The trophies I got I received as an assistant coach,
water Boy, I earned those. My kid helped. But I
I pretty much, you know, hydrated those young men too
to victory.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Yes, well see, and you grew up in the in
the public school system, I did. I grew up in
the parochial school system, a Catholic, private Catholic school. Yes,
parents and nuns know everything. You can't get away with
anything in their parochial school. I'm just saying you can.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
You know what, though, I got to tell you that
I think having a home parent at home like I was,
I was like a feral child. Okay, I like my
mother worked. If there were wolves they could have raised me,
it might have been the case. But I would just
say that I put my poor mother through a lot
more stress than my kids ever put me through.

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I was a harder kid to raise than my kids
were for me to raise.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
But I can believe that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Yeah, but uh, you know, I turned it around, I
think at some point. But I honestly, the one thing
about my kids is I love going back home to
Pittsburgh so they can see we have family that are
not of the same faith, that are just like a
lot of different, you know, differences in Pittsburgh. And it's
good for my kids when they were growing up to
see all of that and maybe contrast that with the
lives they have now. So there's some perspective. It's hard

(01:03:38):
to you know, that's the one thing it's hard to
give your kids. They don't know what they don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Let's go to Lehigh here, from David Tonight with Rod
and Greg. David, how are you? Thanks for joining us, David,
I'm doing great.

Speaker 11 (01:03:49):
Rod. Hey, Yeah, I think parents have a way more
stress today than they used to. There's you know, it's
not just coming from the media or it's coming from
their peers. They have. I mean, there's there's kids out
there that are sex offenders. There's a way more crap
going on today than my parents ever had deal with

(01:04:10):
growing up. It's not even close.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
David, what would you attribute that to it? Yeah? How
does it get? Why is that the case? I I
send it? I agree with you, but what is it? Well?

Speaker 11 (01:04:23):
I think in general, I think our standards have changed dramatically.
You know, growing up at PG thirteen, movies wouldn't even
have ant ball minute at all, and now you can
have two or three before it goes through it. It
are our startups have completely changed. We we and you
know before but growing up, it wasn't an optional thing

(01:04:45):
to go to church or to go to a church activity.
It was in the it was part of our our culture.
Was expected. We were there, you know, and now it's
optional to do most things.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Yeah, yeah, I'm all right, David, Thank you mate. I
would agree. There's some stress on out there, and we
see it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
There is, you know, but in some places kids grow
up pretty fast as well.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
There's a lot of maybe too fast.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Yeah, that's the case. But but I do I I
don't know what it is, but I think some of
the pressures that we're seeing our kids have to navigate,
they are so foreign to anything that you know, we navigated.

Speaker 1 (01:05:20):
Yeah, all right, coming up on Rod and Greg Alexa
Amazon hy story. You hear this one. It's coming up
with Rod and Greg on Utah's Talk radio one oh
five nine. K n rs Bray sent this social media
clip that he saw on social media and at first
you went, this is a hoax here, and it was

(01:05:42):
so hard to believe. I mean, it was so hard
to believe that Amazon and Alexa would do something like this.
So we sent it over. We're gonna play it for
you and then we'll tell you the story behind the
story because it's interesting. So here's let me set this
up for you. If you call Alexa or you just
ask Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? Or

(01:06:02):
why should I vote for Kamala Harris? Here are the
answers you would hear Alexa, why should I vote for
Donald Trump?

Speaker 10 (01:06:11):
I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party
or a specific candidate Alexa.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?

Speaker 10 (01:06:19):
While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris,
the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate
with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first
female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major
gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized
by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on
helping disenfranchised communities.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Now, when I first heard that, Greg, and I know
you were suspect as well. I mean, no, they can't
get away with this. Someone edited or did something to
this presentation and it's not true. But but it turns out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
It turns out today at about two twenty four pm,
John Solomon, if you know, just a news, great journalist.
He comes up with all the good hot news. He
broke two twenty four that Amazon admits error made with
Alexa where Alexa provides differing answers on voting for Trump

(01:07:15):
versus Harris. So Amazon has come out and said, no,
this is actually true. We have on our on this Alexa.
When you ask you why should I vote for Trump?
They say, I can't give you an answer? Why should
I vote for? Kamala Harris that it gives you the
answer you just heard. That is a real That is real.
That's that's real what we just heard. And election interference

(01:07:36):
at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
How does Amazon explain it? They say, ooh, was it
their algorithm mistake?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Or what it's three letters one word oops, no ops,
four letters one word oops oops. That's it and that's
all they ever have to do. Like whoever did this?
Kamala Harrison in the Philadelphia uh, you know, Eagles football
helmet and said that the Eagles officially endorser There's not
gonna be an consequence of that. This is election interference.

(01:08:02):
And I'm going to tell you this is the tip
of the iceberg. But when you see it so blatant,
if that's not the beginning, middle, and end, we didn't
see the silver bullet fly by our eyes of the
only election tampering going on. This is just it happens
so frequently, so often, particularly in tech.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
That's what you're gonna find. My question is, now have
they taken it down? So whoever has I don't have
Alexa someone has Alexa. Someone just go on Alexa right
now and say why should I vote for Donald Trump?
And why should I vote for Kamala Harris? Do it
separately and see the answer. I'd love to seeing from
the fact I would be taking curious I would love here. Yeah,
I want to play this again because this is what

(01:08:40):
he Rey found earlier today. But this is what's going
on with Alexa and the run for the White House.

Speaker 8 (01:08:45):
Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump?

Speaker 10 (01:08:48):
I cannot provide content that promotes a specific political party
or a specific candidate.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Alexa, Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?

Speaker 10 (01:08:57):
Well, there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris.
Most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate with
a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first female
vice president, Harris has already broken down a major gender barrier,
and her career in politics has been characterized by a
commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on helping disenfranchised communities.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Well, that's absolutely amazing, absolutely amazing that Alexa and Amazon. Well,
Amazon is Jeff Bezos second richest man in the world.
Is the Washington Post. The Washington Post. He's not gonna
he's an the ones like I'm sorry, sorry. And here's
the thing, Greg, I saw an article over the weekend.
You may have seen this, you may have talked about it.
But the Harris campaign has hired like one hundred and

(01:09:39):
seventy five two hundred and seventy five social influencers, and
they're paying them to crank out stuff about how great
Kamala is and how rotten Donald Trump is on social
media each and every day because they feel the younger
generation who's important to both campaigns, they don't get their
nudes from listening to us or from watching television news.

(01:10:00):
They get it from social media. Let me just tell
you something.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
If it doesn't say hashtag sponsor, Okay, they're in trouble
because I took the I took the corporate on boarding here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Okay, I can't.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
I can't be talking about anything that I'm paid to
advertise for on social media. So if they're not disclosing
that to people, these influencers and they're getting paid to
do it, that actually is against federal law.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
Well they are, would be my guest. All Right, some
final thoughts coming up on this Tuesday evening edition of
The Rod and Greig Show. On Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine k nrs. Back in the swing of
things now that we're through Labor Day and now we're
down to the final couple of weeks, seven weeks I
think to go seven eight weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Rod just In, one of our listeners, has tried on Alexa.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Oh really really, Okay, this ends.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
It will not give you any suggestions any longer for
either candidates. That has been so don't that Bezos and
Amazon have corrected, They've mended their ways.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Yeah, well, thank you, Jeff, and thank you listener. Yes,
thank you listener. Appreciate it. We appreciate that this is
a guy who just doesn't want to go away.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
I yeah, but I don't even know what to say
about this this clip.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
You know, this is a Utah Republican Senator Mitt Romney
shows up on Meet the Press occasionally about quarterly and
just wants to is used by Meet the Press and
Embassy And I always thought he was a smart guy,
but I'm wondering now right now if he is, because
they're simply using Mitt Romney to bash Donald Trump and
Republican He enjoys it, and I agree, I think he

(01:11:34):
enjoys it. You're right. He was on Meet the Press
yesterday and was asked what scares him about a second
Donald Trump term.

Speaker 15 (01:11:41):
Well, I think if you can look at the last
few months of his presidency, you'd suggest that that's the
kind of thing you might see that he would not
have the generals around him as he did last time,
people of judgment and experience, offering advice and in some cases.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
Restraining his impulses.

Speaker 15 (01:11:56):
Instead, he would have people around him encouraging his impulses
and perhaps adding to them. And I'm afraid you'd find
the nation more divided. Look, our nation doesn't need to
be divided right now. A campaign based on anger and
hate may win at the ballot box temporarily, but it
tears the country apart. The other day, the president, former

(01:12:17):
president said that we are a greater threat for what
is within. I think that was in some respects they
self own, because what's within if he were to become
a look the president again, is a campaign of retribution
and anger and hate.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
That's not what America is based on.

Speaker 15 (01:12:33):
America was based on the idea of in God we trust,
and united we stand, Divided we fall. Divided nation is
not the nation America is intended to be what.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
I don't understand this, Greg, and maybe someday I will, Well,
what is it about Donald Trump that scares the daylights
out of so many Democrats and some Republicans? What do
they honestly think he's going to do?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
It's because of what you just heard Mitt Romney say
he will not take the advice of the swamp. The
swamp being the generals and the people that have spent
their lives inside that that Beltway. They are in charge
this whole election, this democratically elected republic. Fine, so long
as they stay in charge. Donald Trump has proven and

(01:13:19):
he's even admitted I when he got elected, he let
a lot He took a lot of people's word for it,
let a lot of people in, and he got burned
for that. Comy Director of the FBI laughed at how
easily he was able to access the White House where
Obama would have never let him access the White House
that way. And that's what Romney and a lot of
these guys are afraid of is that he's you know,
you're not going to fool him twice. And that means

(01:13:41):
that that entire swamp and all the control they have
wielded for so long is threatened, and it does make
that scary. Wonder if they're actually gonna let even if
Donald Trump wins, what they're going to do, because he
is not going to let that happen. And that's what
that's what that what Rommy doesn't like and what he
said when he says, you know, we're divided. You know,
how about your binder of women they told, they said

(01:14:03):
you had. How about your tax returns that they went after.
How about how about the dog kill? How about you
killed your dog?

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
You put your dog?

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
They were never kind. The Democrats could not stand Mitt Romney.
They could not stand him. They they they they, you know,
they made him look like a cartoon character. And now
he's going to talk about statesmanship and everything else. And
by the way, there's not one thing that Donald Trump's
going to do that's retribution. But what he will do
is at least legal lawfare that's going on, Yeah, the Dutch,
the Department. He's promised that if they're going to come

(01:14:31):
after me, they'll come after the rest of the American people.
And he'd like to prevent that. That's not retribution.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
And you just made a point, Greg, how on earth
does Mitt Romney sit down and even interview with these
people who spent during his campaign finding everything they could
do to rip this guy apart. Yet now he sits
down in their best of buddies, and they and the
people that fought the binder of women, I mean they
they couldn't find enough to tear Mitt Romney down. Yet

(01:14:59):
now he's sitting interviewing claiming that Donald Trump is the
greatest threat.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
It really rubs me around, is that when he was
going to run, when he ran in eighteen, he came
and I was speaker. He's how much he loved the president,
how much he was such a better president than a candidate.
And he's been he loved it, and he just everything
he said. Yea, he didn't mean a word of it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
No, that's too bad.

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