The Rod and Greg Show: Tim Walz's Education Record; Texas Investigation in Election Interference

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the show. Welcome to the Rod and Greg
Show here on KENRS one O five nine. Look, We've
got so much to go over today. There's just so
many things. I have been probably clipping things since Sunday.
And the frustration is, I come up with the idea,
I come up with the narrative, and then I hear
someone else copy me. They don't know they're copying me.

(00:21):
But I've already thought of this for you so I
can share it with you, and then I see someone
else report it or say it as I had intended to.
So I've got about three days worth of information and
observations to share with you. Some of it. I don't
care if you think you heard about it. We're going
to talk about it even more. We're going to get
into this media, whether it's regime media, whether it's social media,

(00:42):
whether it's big tech. I think the fix is in.
I think that you're seeing a media and how they
are bending over backwards for this ticket, this Harris A
Wall's ticket, And I'm just not gonna We're not just
gonna brush over it. We're not gonna just scoff at it.
We're gonna we're gonna dive down into it a little bit,
and then there's every every once in a while they
can't help but give a little bit of information that's

(01:05):
that's actually true, and I catch them, I catch them
saying it, and then they get a lot of abuse
for it, and they try to take it down and
hide it. But I'm going to catch them and I'm
gonna play it for you. I've got a lot of clips.
He raised been good to me today letting all my
clips come on to the board so we can listen
to them together. So we're gonna do that. We're gonna
talk about the record, We're gonna talk about the well,
we'll talk about the media. Then we're gonna talk about
the real record, the record they're hiding, the record that

(01:27):
they're trying to tell the American people. And when I say, Harris,
you know, I just heard a rally today and JD.
Vance is saying what I had been ready to say
to you that she keeps saying on day one, you know,
Vice President Harris Kamala Harris says that on day one,
she's going to do this or she's going to do that,
which a lot of it, by the way, sounds just

(01:48):
like what Trump has done or is going to do
which And he says, you know, she's already on the
she always on the on the clock. Well, I'm just
going to tell you this. One thousand, three hundred and
two days she's been on the clock as of today,
and that is from January twentieth, twenty twenty one until today,
August fourteenth, she has been on the clock. She has been.

(02:11):
It is not day one for her. It is day one,
thy three hundred and two. What you see is what
you get. And if you think that there's some new revelation,
some new president, some new tough on the border president
coming and in a Kamala Harris campaign, that is just
that's just blue screens and mirrors. Frankly, that's what that is.

(02:33):
It's not even good. It's like bad sci fi special
effects from like the seventies is what we're seeing right now.
So we're going to get into.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Some of that.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
We're going to show we're going to catch her, and
we're going to show you and highlight some of these
contradictions in all of their glory. We're also going to
after we get back from this break, we're going to
be speaking with the director of Outreach for Parents defending
education in Minnesota. So these are her feet on the
ground people that are in Minnesota dealing with Governor A.
Wall as I like to call him, Governor Walls and

(03:02):
his approach to public education. Loves the teachers union, loves
those union bosses, teachers, Rank and Fountain. Maybe not so much. Students,
definitely not so much. We're going to speak with Erica
after this break and talk about some of the details
of what education public education looks like in the state
of Minnesota. We're also going to later in the show,

(03:23):
we're going to talk to Daniel Cochran. He's from the
Heritage Foundation. We're going to get into some work that
the state legislature in Texas is doing, calling big tech accountable.
I mean, why does it always have to be a
journalist doing it. Why does it have to be just
the news with John Solomon or someone else. It's fun
to see and it's good to see states that are
using their subpoena power and using their ability to have

(03:44):
a big tech answer to them and get some answers.
And we're going to talk to him about what's going
on in Texas. I think it's actually going to be
very big news and you're going to hear it here first.
So we got a lot to discuss, a lot to
go over. I got to tell you this, the the
number of things that we are going to show you
or talk about. Let me let me just go over
just really quickly. If this sounds familiar to you, because

(04:07):
you're not hearing this in the regime media, right. So
I just want to say, have you heard anything about
these accomplishments of the Biden Harris and by the way,
there is no daylight between them, and we'll even have
what's her name, Jean Pierre. I got to learn her
name at some point, but their press secretary, she says
they've been they've been doing this together. By their own admission,

(04:27):
there's been day one thy three hundred and two. These
two have been doing everything together, hand in glove. Any
accomplishments that you're hearing about, the fifteen million unvetted illegal
aliens that have come into the country, I haven't heard it.
Historic inflation and prices going up, they don't want to
talk about it. Record high gas prices in all fifty states,
prices we've never seen before in this country. Wherever you

(04:49):
live in America, they don't talk about it record high
consumer debt. Consumer debt right now, that's credit cards. People
putting there basically sadly monthly expenses on credit cards because
household incomes not matching it and their jobs aren't paying
for it. They'd like you to think that she's bringing
joy to the election. She's bringing laughter to the election.

(05:09):
I don't talk about that. How about wars? We got
Ukraine and Russia going on, we got Israel and Hamas,
global conflicts all over the place. Didn't see that between
sixteen and twenty, now did we? The withdrawal from Afghanistan again,
another something that is just the media won't talk about.
I doubt if you could find it on a search

(05:30):
engine and Google or anywhere else. But one of the
most horrific and sad moments in American history, certainly military history,
and how that withdrawal took place, violent crime, catch and release,
going straight up, You've got I love this. The jail
trying to jail, trying to convict a political rival, Donald

(05:52):
Trump before we got to this election, doing everything in
their power to weaponize, in politicize or law enforce, and
federal law enforcement to in law fair to keep him
from being on that ballot saw such an effort in
the last three and a half years towards that endeavor.
Energy declared, this is actually coming right home to Utah.

(06:14):
We have energy prices that have been cheap comparatively for
gas electric, things like that your utility bills. They're trying
to shut down our power plants in this state and
across the country. In fact, one of the things that
Donald Trump spoke about in his rally today is that
when elected, he is going to slash these energy prices
because he's because he is going to be solely focused

(06:35):
on the generation of power through clean coal and in
affordable ways, because we need and we don't just need
affordable power. Our demands is a nation for power or
just growing and growing and growing. And the left and
the Biden Harris and now the Harris Walls vision is
to cut all of this energy generation without any plan

(06:55):
of how you're going to see the next power generation
source be stepped up, approved, ready to go seamlessly, none
of that. The president President Trump is rightfully calling this
out in terms of this energy crisis that we're that
we're in the middle of, and she's you don't want
to talk about it that way. Surprise, surprise, k through

(07:15):
twelve and so we'll talk about this and after the break.
It's the lowest scores, ladies and gentlemen, of students that
we have seen in this nation. We have less than
fifty percent of our students in states including Minnesota and
Governor Walls of the state, that are not reading at
grade level. You've got more than fifty percent not reading

(07:36):
at grade level, less than fifty percent that are proficient
and reading at grade level. It's inexcusable. That is that
is something that I look forward to someone addressing with
the Harris Walls ticket, at least Governor Walls, as this
is happening on his watch. But you know, they are
the most popular presidency according to the CNNMS most popular

(08:01):
presidency you've ever heard. It's a bit of a scam,
don't you think, Well, I've just gone through it down
through those issues. Do not think, and do not let
the media tell you that the Trump campaign, Donald Trump himself, JD.
Vance are not bringing up these exact very issues that
I'm sharing with you right now. They're saying they don't

(08:21):
know how to handle Kamala. They were so prepared for
Joe Biden. They don't know what to do. They're flat footed.
It's not true. Just because they don't want to cover
it doesn't mean that they're not discussing it. They are
discussing these issues, and these issues will continue to be
on the front burner as long as there's a campaign
and as long as they're talking, you're going to hear

(08:42):
substantive issues. And we're going to share some of those
issues with you too, how they're sharing them, and also
show you where they're trying to distract you so you
don't know what issues are coming so more. When we
come back for you, we have a very special guest.
We have Erica Sanzi, director of outreach Parents Defending Education,

(09:03):
and Erica is going to share with us some of
the details and some specificity about Governor Walls from Minnesota
and all the good and important things he's done for
kids in our K through twelve public education system or
not Erica, Welcome to the Greg and Rod Show or
rodin Greg Show. Thank you for joining us, Thanks for

(09:26):
having me. Okay, so listeners want to know he's affable.
People are saying he's like a trip to the hardware store.
He's you know, he's just he's such a nice guy.
Tell us a little bit about Governor Walls and his
approach to public education and our kids.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, I mean, I suspect that he is a really
nice guy, and certainly when he's serving in the Congress
he would have been in the category of a moderate.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
But since he.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Became governor, he really did tax far left and that
has shown up explicitly in his priorities in K twelve education. So,
for one, he was very draconian in his COVID lockdowns
as it relates to schools. So under his you know,

(10:12):
on his watch, they kept schools closed much longer than
most places. He was in lockstep with the unions on
that and adding insult to injury. There's interviews that anybody
can watch where he is. You know, he's asked about
learning loss and the damage of keeping schools closed, and

(10:33):
he scoffed at it, basically, you know, dismisses it as
a as a problem and instead talks about how resilient
kids are and how great it is that they're learning
new things, you know, about dealing with hardship by having
their schools closed.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Erica on that on that topic, I'm just curious, was
there online learning that he assumed every young person would
have access to and be able to and would engage in.
Or did he just think that the time off just
wasn't going to have any impact at all.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I mean, I suspect he thought the online learning. Well, okay,
I'm sure that he said that he thought the online
learning was effective because at the time, people kind of
had to pretend that that was working and going to work,
even though I think almost everybody knew that it it
certainly wasn't a substitute for in person learning. And the

(11:24):
reality is, like with some kids it was okay, but
for other kids it really did sort of change the
entire trajectory of their schooling and of their future prospects.
We saw plummeting achievement in Minnesota and elsewhere, but certainly
on his watch, they've seen major declines in math and reading.

(11:46):
They've seen their chronic absenteeism rate has skyrocketed. And that
doesn't even you know, speak to the sort of ideological
takeover in the schools, where again, on his watch, we've
just seen really far left ideologies, hyper political content in

(12:07):
the schools that he seems to support.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You know, we're speaking with Erica Sanzi from an director
of outreach Parents Defending Education, talking about the education record
for K through twelve public education in the state of
Minnesota under Governor Walls, the vice presidential nominee on the
ticket with Kamala Harris. I'm very interested in the absenteeism

(12:34):
and this idea that if because my mother was a
single mother, and I'm going to tell you that I
was pre internet or online education, but for someone that
would be for the everyday people and even for those teachers,
but for those kids. To assume that a working family
or a single parent situation would have the internet, would
have the structure needed for online learning, it sounds to

(12:58):
me like this is more of a I'm all in
with the union teachers' union bosses, not for teachers, not
for kids. But I but we heard it here in Utah.
The unions. They didn't want anyone to have to go
to school, and they would tell you anything without regard
to whether it was true about kids' education. To stay
out of school. Sounds like this governor was really taking

(13:18):
his cues from the teachers' union, oh one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
And if you look at the reactions of the leaders
of the teachers' union, so Randy Winegarten of the American
Federation for Teachers and Becky Pringle of the National Education Associations.
Their reactions as soon as the announcement that Harris had
picked Walls. You know, their reactions were over the top, enthusiastic, excited.

(13:44):
Randy Weingarten went a little insane, to be honest. I mean,
they were just so excited to have him be the pick.
And that's kind of all we need to know. When
you see the leaders of the teachers' unions, and I'm
speaking as a former teachers' union member in Massachusetts and California,
when you see them ecstatic about a candidate, it means

(14:06):
that that candidate essentially lives in their pocket. It means
that they're going to, you know, again a lot of
this ideology. They're going to be pushing this ethnic studies,
the subsession with races gender ideology. They're going to be
pushing that on schools, and they're also going to be
very vocal advocates against school choice. So they're going to say,

(14:28):
we want all the kids, regardless of income, regardless of address,
we want them all to be trapped in the same
schools as opposed to having options and The worst part
about that is that for many years, the polling on
school choice, it enjoys its greatest support from black parents

(14:52):
and from Hispanic parents. The lowest level of support for
school choice comes from self described white liberals. So the
same people that Walls and others like him, you know,
claim to be standing up for and caring about the most,
they slam the door in their face when it comes
to them having any options about where to send.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
Their kids to school.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
So to draw some parallels to what was happening here
in the state of Utah, we were seeing this absenteeism.
We are seeing that the scores were going down. You
had parents that were looking for other alternatives to make
sure that there was proficiency year over year growth for
their kids' education because the public schools were shut down
and weren't available. We did see, oh, by the way,

(15:37):
and we've seen the scary kind of curriculum of critical
race theory, transgender illeology make its way into our public schools.
But all of that amounted into a stronger case for
school choice with parents here in our state, and we
saw our legislature pass with a veto proof majority, legislation
that allows for parents options on the delivery of education

(15:59):
for their STO. You've just said this, but in what
ways was Governor Walls opposed to school choice? Was this
where these bills brought up in the legislature? Was it?
I mean, how, how does how does it show its
face his anti school choice philosophies.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, so I don't know enough. I don't know enough
about at the granular level of bills. I just know
that he opposes school choice. He seriously supposed to opposes
any version of school.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
Choice that would involve the ability.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
To attend to private school, so education savings account, voucher's
tax credit scholarships, he is not going to be in
support of that. His record on charter schools I'm not
up to speed on, so I don't want to speak
on that. But what I would say is that because
the unions are so opposed even to charter schools, if
I had to guess, my suspicion is that he is

(16:57):
not a proponent of providing more options for parents, his
record on that is bleak. But again, I don't want
to make super specific claims because I'm not positive, other
than to say that on his watch, school choice bills
would have no shot, and I live in a place
where they have no shot either. I'm talking to you

(17:20):
from Rhode Island. But what we saw, I believe the
number is twenty one states past some version of school
choice since the pandemic. So, either during or after the pandemic,
it really did pick up steam in a lot of states.
But it's not Minnesota's certainly not one of them.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
So I was a state lawmaker here in Utah, and
and I've said for years truthfully that I represent incredible teachers.
I did when I was a state lawmaker. I never
was a very good union boss representative. I was always
at conflict with the teachers' union. But I found there
to be kind of If you say that you were
a member of a teacher I'm sure that you felt

(18:01):
that chasm between wanting to help these kids and educate
them and deliver education versus the priorities of a teacher's union.
I guess. Finally, I just ask, what if mass scores
are plummeting, If reading proficiency is now under fifty percent,
that's the stats I'm looking at here in an article.
They fell over ten percent, so they're at less than half,

(18:23):
And so we know that if a child's not reading
at grade level by third grade. They'll need an ed
individual education plan, special education throughout the rest of their
time in public schools. Public education. What is the answer
to that, If it's not going to be school choice,
if it's not going to be giving empowering parents. Is
what are you hearing out out of Minnesota and from

(18:44):
this governor in terms of how he would deal with
these disturbing statistics and test results from these kids.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
Well, he's going to say that we need more money.
I mean, that is what That is what he's going
to say, and it's going to be and he's going
to do this sort of sob story crimea River, you know,
about how we don't pay teachers enough. But the reality is,
number one, we can't have conversations about teacher pay and
the aggregate because a Boston teacher on average makes one

(19:16):
hundred thousand, and teacher in Oklahoma often has to have
a second job in order to avoid being on government assistance. Right,
So these conversations about pay are silly if we're not
talking about specifics. But no, he's going to talk about
needing more funding and and and as far as I mean,
you never want to sound hopeless because that doesn't get

(19:39):
us anywhere, but certainly at the moment, like if you're
a parent in Minnesota and again or where I live,
if you're really unhappy with what's going on in the
schools and if you can't afford to pay for other
options and you don't, you know, there's there's not much
hope that the that the people in charge are going
to be trying to help you find other options. So

(20:02):
I really you have to get involved at the ground level,
and I know people don't want to do that, but
really just really pressing their school board members, their administrators,
their superintendents to focus on the basics. One thing that
Walls has clearly done is he has shifted his priorities

(20:23):
away from the basics. He's into making sure that every
subject in the school is taught through a racial lens.
He has no problem with these activist teachers that are
really pushing a hyper political, you know, not debates about
an issue that certainly kids could have. Just sort of
pushing one position on kids. I mean, unfortunately that has

(20:47):
been his priority, and I think it needs to be
exposed and called out so that at least maybe you
could get the guy back to where he was when
he was in Congress, and he hit him away from
where he's been as governor.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Moderate district in Congress. Once he got once, he could
only once he was the governor his true colors, in
my opinion, at shine hyper political agenda. You're helping us
expose that right now. Erica, thank you for joining us
on the program. We appreciate your time and keep up
the good work.

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Thanks you too, Take care.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Thank you. It was Eric Sanzy and she's a director
of Outreach Parents Defending Education, talking a little bit about
Governor Walls and some of these hyper political agendas that
he's pushing as governor that we got to be aware of.
So when we come back, we go to break, we
come back. We're gonna have more here on the Rod
and Greg Show here on Talk radio one oh five

(21:38):
nine can Ras. We're talking right now about this VP
pick that Kamala Harris has made and Governor Tim Walls,
governor of Minnesota. We just heard about his not so
stellar record in public education and what he's prioritizing and
the consequences that Minnesota's are living through and that their
children are living through because of what is really amounts

(21:58):
to a radical agenda. Love the calls eight eight eight
five seven zero eight zero one zero. If you have
a comment you'd like to make, let's go to the
call the phones right now, and let's go to Charlie
in Salt Lake City. Charlie, welcome to the show. What's
say you, sir?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Hey? Thanks Greg. Listen to you guys all the time.
I think you guys are you know, amazing. You're great
educators of the truth and that's what people need to
hear nowadays. What I was just pondering as I as
I'm listening to this awful VP pick, I mean, gosh awful, right, Yes,
did is this one of those little moves that were
now the Democratic Party things? Did these guys actually vent waltz?

(22:40):
And like, dude, this guy's got a lot of baggage.
He's got a lot of things that the media can unpack,
and they're gonna put the heat on this guy. And
Kamala we're gonna we're gonna talk about her. We know
she's she's out there in left field playing football. But
it's it's just amazing. I listen to the station all
the time, and a lot of energy is being poured
in the waltz and it doesn't seem like so much

(23:02):
is being put on Kamala and this guy's just the
vice president. I mean, we know how unworthy they are.
Look at Kamala, she put policies to see as she
put in with the Biden administration. Nothing, But yet we're
so focused on this guy, you.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
Know, Charlie, thank you for the call on the observation. Look,
I'm picking up what you're putting down and I know
that that's but here's why I think it's so important
that we talk about Tim Walls. And believe me, I
got plenty that we're going to talk all about Kamala
on this show and we'll continue to do this through
the through this election cycle. But why I think there's
no math to this this pick. To your point, Charlie,

(23:40):
it might be to try to be it's like a
parlor trick. You're trying to have people look over here
instead of looking at her. But for this to be
one of her first important decisions, and to pick someone
that where she has was known as the most liberal,
more to the left of Bernie Sanders, most liberal senator
prior to going on the ticket with Biden and becoming
Vice president, most liberal, for her to pick this governor

(24:03):
from Minnesota. There's again, there is no math. It's that
Minnesota would be a very difficult state to win. It
was never discussed as one of those rust belt states
that were in play. This is just someone that is
an ideological match to her, and a scary one at that.
And so where I keep seeing the media falling over
themselves to talk about how he is just so nice
and he's just you know, a trip to the hardware store,

(24:25):
and on and on and on. No, we're gonna, we're gonna,
we're gonna show who this guy is along with uh kamala.
Mister Rogers right now is twit is just spinning in
his grave. Never once when he talks about being neighborly,
as you just heard, and I should have started talking
to you earlier, but I'm just listening to it, and
I'm going to that happy place. It is not socialism
that Fred Rogers was talking about. There's nothing about neighborliness

(24:48):
that you can just in the same sentence and breath,
compare to socialist. Nothing. And Fred Rogers, mister Rogers never
promoted socialism never. That's not who he was. And I'm
telling you when you hear him say something as far
school as one person's socialist is another person's neighborliness. That's
a scary premise, an absolutely scary premise to to be,

(25:12):
you know, to be comparing something to So, look, we're
going to go we're going to go to a I'm
gonna go to a break and when we come back,
we are going to wrap up a discussion about this
vice president before we get into Kamala and a lot
to say there. So look, we're talking about walls. I
really like what the caller said. It's like, really, it's

(25:33):
a VP pick. Let's not let's not spend too much
time on a VP when we got at when we
got a presidential nominee that keeps telling you, telling voters,
and the media keeps just repeating it all on day one,
I'll do this. Day one, I'll do that. It is
now day one thousand, three hundred and two if you
count today from the day they were all sworn in
on January twentieth, twenty twenty one, one three hundred and

(25:55):
second day she's been on the clock. So do not
get hoodwinked by this on day one rhetoric. There is
no day one for her, and we have the clips
where the White House will tell you just even this
week that they've done this hand in glove. They've all
been they've done this together. There's no daylight between Biden
and Harris. So you know, so what do the polls say?

(26:17):
I know everybody's starting to worry because look, they're saying, look,
look at how the gap has been shrunk by you know,
Trump was winning in a poll. We never saw this
in sixteen, We didn't see it in twenty. He's ahead,
and the poles all of a sudden, they just basically
kicked Biden to the curb. And all of a sudden,
all these poles and numbers are all looking scary. They're
looking like she's even maybe even more. So we're going

(26:40):
to dive into some of that later in the program,
because I'm telling you, as far as poles go and
what's happening on the ground, there's some at least issues
to bring up on sample size or who they're sampling.
And I don't want you to look, we were never ahead.
Trump was never a head in sixteen or twenty. But
we always knew that they that the support he had
was under report, and I believe that's still the case.

(27:02):
But Rasmussen, interestingly just put out a poll. It's a nah,
it's telephone and online survey. Forty two percent of likely
US voters, if you look at them as a whole,
without you know, subdividing them into party or independent, Republican
or Democrat, forty two percent of likely voters have a
favorable opinion of Governor Walls as a VP pick. Well,

(27:23):
that sounds great. Twenty seven percent of that forty two
percent favorability have a very favorable impression. Now equal on
the other side of that coin, the same exact number,
forty two percent have an unfavorable opinion of Walls, and
thirty two percent of that forty two percent have a

(27:46):
very unfavorable opinion. Well, when you do the cross tabs
on these poles, when you take a Rasmussen poll and
you say, okay, forty two percent say favorable, forty two
percent say unfavorable, the rest undecided, You've got to look
at the crosstab and it turns out that it is
really your Democrats who are super super excited about Tim Walls.

(28:07):
Of the forty two percent that make up the unfavorable number.
That percentage are the Republicans. As you would as you
would guess. And that's fine. But here's the critical demo,
the independent voters. The independent voters are not sold on
Tim Walls as the nominee. And that's a good That
is in spite of the media's every effort to make

(28:28):
him look like he could literally walk on water. People
this it's because of discussions like what we are having,
where his record and who he really is as governor
of Minnesota is coming out. And that also lends itself
directly to the decision making process of Kamala Harris. Either
she's told who to pick, which isn't a good sign,

(28:49):
or she is picking someone who is an ideological match
for her, which again would be horrific for this country.
And you can take a lot from the decision to
pick Wall as her as her running mate. It's not
a good sign for the rest of us. The so
we so we have so we have polling that shows

(29:10):
that it's not it's not as uh, it's not as
you know, clear or as simple as oh, look, she's
doing so well. And I got to warn you as
this Democrat convention comes up, this honeymoon or whatever you
want to call it, I don't think the polls actually
are very accurate. They're still not pulling the demographics, I
think in the way that you'll see people vote in November.

(29:31):
But you see you see the media reporting this this
shrinking of the gap, or her even leading in some
of these states, in Pennsylvania or in others by a
point or two. I think five thirty eight has her
up by two point eight percent. But I'm going to
tell you that you have to just hold your nose.
You just have to grit through this coming Democrat convention

(29:52):
because this is where again it's propaganda, or it's whatever
you want to call it. This will be the regime
media and social media just fawning over this ticket. Maybe
you are going to hear everything. They're not going to
carry water for this ticket. They're going to try to
part the seas literally for this ticket. That's what you're
going to get out of the media. Was as we

(30:14):
endure the Democrat National Convention, which is coming up this month.
And so just you know, just prepare yourself doesn't mean
we're losing. And you do not take this narrative that
the Trump and his campaign doesn't know what to say.
They're not talking substance, they don't know how to handle this. Oh,
there's plenty of substance being discussed. The media just doesn't
want to let you know about it. And we just
have we have to get through this the Democrat Convention

(30:37):
and then we are going to be literally off to
the races. So when we come back in the next hour,
we're going to continue in this vein. We're going to
talk with Daniel Cochran. He's with the Heritage Foundation. He's
a Tech Policy Center senior research associate. He's spent some
time in Texas talking to the Senate and in their
legislature and the state of Texas and their legislature. They've

(31:00):
they've about had it. They have decided to do something
about big tech. And it's electioneering that's going on. And
I think if you've watched the news, if you've watched
if you've tried to google the attempted assassination of Trump,
and it's been hard to find on Google, and they're saying, oh, sorry,
that's a glitch, we don't know what that's about. Or
even now where you're finding out stories where Kamala Harris's

(31:22):
campaign team are taking articles and writing their own headlines
and they're Google ads. So they're saying, hey, we're allowed
to do it, but it is absolutely misleading the voters
or the readers into thinking that's the media headline. We're
going to talk to him about what's going on to
deal with that in this upcoming election for you. So
you want to stay tuned, we'll be back to since
Talk Radio one h five nine. Can't arrests Big Tech

(31:44):
and Google and all these they're helping is absolutely we've
seen it in the past, we're seeing it right now
in real time. We do worry about the information that
voters get to see and what they don't get to see.
So joining us on the program right now is Daniel Cochran.
He's a senior research associate at the Heritage Foundation on
Tech and the Tech Policy Center. Daniel, Welcome to the program. Hey,

(32:06):
big things happening in Texas and the Texas legislature. What's
happening with tech, big tech that we need to know
more about.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
Well, well, Texas is doing it. The importance of it
can't be overstated. And essentially what the Texas Legislature has
done here is it's gone to for the largest tech
companies in the world, that's Google, x, TikTok, and meta,
and it's asking pointed questions about how they moderate and

(32:34):
curate political content, especially in the lead up to the
November election. Your listeners are probably familiar with a lot
of the concerns around big tech censorship, and the challenge
is that even though censorship is a serious issue, another
side of that is how big tech big tech is
using its power over our information to shape in muld elections.

(32:56):
There's a lot of evidence that they've been doing this,
especially Google, for well over a decade now, and the
problem is it never really been held to account for that.
So Texas is taking one of the first most substantial
steps in doing that, and the subpoenas essentially open up
the books in these companies and forced them to tell

(33:16):
the American people what they've been up to.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
What's the catalyst for this? I know my minder think
in my mind what it could be. But what's been
the catalyst for this kind of action issuing the subpoena
is wanting to understand how they're coming about their decisions
on what to have available on their search engines or whatnot.
What do you think is spurring the Texas Senate Committee
to go into this investigation?

Speaker 5 (33:39):
Well, credit where credit is due. The chair of the
Texas Committee Senate Committee on State Affairs, Brian Hughes, has
really been instrumental in this. He actually authored Texas Senate
Bill ten, which was a bill that would have banned
social media platforms from discriminate against users based on political

(34:02):
viewpoint or speech. That made its way to the US
Supreme Court. It's still in litigation. But he's been a
long time advocate against big tech censorship, and earlier this year,
the Lieutenant Governor of Texas instructed him and his committee
to examine threats to election integrity and among those threats

(34:23):
are our big tech companies because of the power they
have over our information environment. So I think it's that
sort of a confluence of a recognition of how important
our elections are, especially in the lead up to November,
how important the information environment around elections are, and really
recognizing the power that these companies have to shape it.

(34:44):
I think all those things combined really led to this
decision by Sherman Hughes and the committee to open this investigation.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Chairman Hughes is certainly a leader and seeing and wanting
to do this. Here's what has me on tilt, though,
Daniel the attempted to say nation of the President Donald Trump.
It was news to me when it came out that
there was If you Google searched attempted assassination or assassination
attempt on Donald Trump, you couldn't find any information. You

(35:11):
certainly couldn't find the images that have really inspired a
nation in terms of how uniquely fortunate the president was
not to be killed, but also his immediate reaction to
that that can't be found on Google. Now there's a
I think it came from all places, axios where they said, look,
they're taking our headlines and our stories and they're making
Google ads out of them. But they're making pretend headlines.

(35:34):
And so the Harris campaign is doing that, they're doing
it with Google ads. Are things like that going to
be accounted for in this investigation?

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Well, look, that's the hope the scope of the subpoena,
and they didn't. They didn't release publicly the specific documents
that they're requesting. But in my testimony I I laid
out a lot of the manipulative techniques that these companies
use to shift political discourse, and among those is the

(36:07):
way they enforce their content policies. So there's often a
double standard at play, especially in how these companies approach
quote unquote miss and disinformation, which is really a watchword
for UH speech that the platforms and their and their
progressive allies don't like. We saw a lot of this
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, and we saw

(36:29):
in twenty twenty in particular that when UH speech that
was critical of COVID was was taken down by the platforms,
sometimes at the request of the government and they're out
and they're they're sort of private actors, but oftentimes by
the platforms, because the platforms have an incentive frankly to

(36:50):
cater to powerful interests. When they're you know, when they
think that they can please government, uh, a powerful government
actor by by acting as censor, they'll they'll do that.
So we've seen over and over again that these that
these UH these platforms kind of have a double standard
in how they approach content policies. They'll they'll they'll accept
they'll take down a post, say that's that's critical of

(37:13):
of COVID. But then when, as you saw the Harris
campaign is literally using fake ads on the platform to
promote their message, the company's turn a blind eye. Google says, well,
this doesn't violate our policies. Yet they took a very
strong standard against misinformation or Americans that voiced objections to

(37:33):
the lockdown policies and voiced legitimate concerns around the integrity
of the twenty twenty election. That's that's the double standard
that's at play here. And the problem is there's there're
I mean, they're making millions and millions of how hundreds
of thousands millions of decisions. I mean, whether it's human
or algorithms doing it, they're making they're they're making thousands,
tens of thousands, hundred of thousands, millions of decisions that

(37:54):
affect what you and I see and say, what we
can post on their platform, and especially what what campaigns post. Right, So,
small decision here, small decision there, we never see it,
but it can really shape political discourse. I mean, imagine
if you're a political candidate, you're trying to run an ad.
That's how people campaign. Now, yes, Google accepts one ad

(38:17):
but declines another. That's that's bias, and it helps one candidate.
But we would never know, and sometimes often the candidates
never know. But that's huge. Now, now multiply that over
over thousands of races around America, even around the world.
It's a massive problem.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
We're speaking with the Heritage Foundation's senior Research Associate for
Tech policy, Daniel Cochran's the here's the needle. I want
to see if we can thread. And it's hard, it's
frankly hard. You're looking at the UK, you're looking at
EU European Union, and they are coming out with some
draconian restrictions and censorship. And if anything you say doesn't

(38:56):
incite violence, but just insight incites the emotion of hate,
which is, as you know, beauty's in the eye of
the beholder. They are looking for criminal action to be taken,
that the criminal penalties to be attached. So we don't
want that. But what do we do to get companies,
the largest ones as you've mentioned Google, x, TikTok, Meta,

(39:16):
How do we get them? What is the cure or
what is the process to get them? Calling balls and
strikes and treating all these campaigns without regard to bias
or preference, treating them fairly and the same.

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Well, look, I think the starting point is transparency. I
like to say transparency shapes behavior and a lot of
the power that these companies have comes from the fact
that they can do what they do without anyone ever knowing.
I mean, what was so sort of I think unique
about the Twitter files, or or the the investigation that's

(39:50):
that's been undertaken by the House Judiciary Committee, or even
the Murphy the Missouri case in recent in recent years,
was that we finally the public finally got a peek
behind the curtain of what's going on at these tech companies.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Most of the.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Time, the default is we, as in the American people
don't know what these companies are up to. We have
to rely on a lawsuit or an official investigation like
what Texas is doing to have any hope or any
chance of getting catching a glimpse of the systems that
are essentially dictating political speech. My view and our view
here at Heritage is transparency should be the default setting

(40:27):
for these companies, not something that only happens when they're
when they're called on the floor by Congress, and I think, frankly,
just requiring them to show their work and especially how
they're changing content practices or algorithms, especially around elections.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
Daniel Conchrane, thank you for joining the program. Thank you
for your good work. Keep it up. I mean you
got to get more than just text us up in
arms about this. We got to keep going and make
sure that we hold these tech companies accountable and make
them more as you say, more transparent. We're going to
get into this some of the media machination, social media regime. Media.
When we come back after the break, you want to

(41:03):
hang on plenty to go over. You're listening to Talk
Radio one oh five nine kN Ars Kamala Harrison. Her
first big decision on a is the nominee for president.
What a what a disastrous pick one that just comes
from such a far left place, fails to represent the
sentiments of working class people if they want to win

(41:24):
the rest belt the states of Wisconsin and Ohio and
Pennsylvania and Michigan. Walls does nothing for them, and it
shows such poor decision making from her. But not to
leave her alone in terms of that being the only
thing to talk about. There's been a media that has
just been absolutely dedicated to again not carry water, but

(41:48):
part sees for this team for Kamala. They didn't even
really like if you want to be honest, if we're
thinking about it, and you look at her interviews. Prior
to beginning this domination, she wasn't very popular. There was
plenty on the record where they were saying she's one
of the most unpopular vice presidents in history. But then
it's just the switch flipped. Even the left, even the

(42:11):
far far left, knows that CNN, MSNBC and these big
tech companies, they have no interest in calling balls and
strikes and they're not objective in any way. And so
there was just a very spontaneous moment that happened on
the Stephen Colbert Show that I want to share with
you because even the people who agree with Stephen Colbert

(42:32):
and are left of center and expect their CNN to
be towing the line as they would hope, there was
a moment where what Stephen Colbert tried to say or
he's talking to a CNN journalist here, it's very very revealing.
Let's have a listen.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Trump has kind of been thrown on his heels by this,
and he's not really sure how to go after Vice
President Harris. He knew his attack lines on President Biden.
He really has struggled with to how to go after
someone who's twenty years younger than him.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Who is a different gender, a different right.

Speaker 6 (43:06):
It's kind of been this moment where he has not
been able to coalesce around a single attack line. I
know you guys are objective over there, that you just
report the news.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
As it is.

Speaker 8 (43:17):
Oh, I know a CNN makes it, And.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
I know that's supposed to be a lab line.

Speaker 9 (43:20):
I wasn't supposed to be, but I guess it is.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Is that supposed to be a laugh line? They can't
even keep straight face amongst themselves. They think, you know,
they're all in the same club there, And when he
tried to say, I know you're objective and you don't
have an opinion, and they just spontaneously start to laugh
because it's fundamentally untrue. And how do we know it's untrue?
I don't know. How about the Russia gate hoaks that

(43:46):
they just kept pushing. How about Hunter Hunter Biden's laptop
that was just Russian disinformation, all the hallmarks of You
couldn't say where COVID came from. You couldn't say it
was from China. Remember how that was if you said
that you were a loon, and they would they would
ban you from social media and they wouldn't cover you
on the regular on the traditional regime media ivermectin. I mean,

(44:08):
poor Joe Rogan, he starts taking some things because he
gets COVID to try and in fight it, and they
tried to make it out that he was taking horse Uh,
I don't know, horse tranquilizers or something. And it actually
does have efficacy medically.

Speaker 9 (44:22):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
They for for viruses COVID vaccines. Did you know according
to CNN and every one of these regime media outlets,
that that is a completely safe and effective vaccine and
that if you get it you're never going to get
COVID again. That's just that's the promise. You're not going
to spread it, You're not going to get it. Masks
work perfectly. It just goes on and on. How about

(44:44):
Jesse Smoole at SMALLTT, I mean week ago. I could
spend an entire show with you going over every single lie,
every single distortion that the media has been sharing, uh
for and on half of those on the left and
in this case for Kamala Harris and Walls. So when

(45:05):
you see these moments where they accidentally and I have
to think it's an accident. I don't think that they
would purposefully report something that would not tow their own line,
so when it comes up, it's probably you know, someone's
in it, since maybe a new journalist that didn't get
the memo that they're all supposed to be all in
on this, or they thought they had an interview coming
that was going to say one thing. In the interview,

(45:27):
the person they are interviewing surprise them. But in Axios,
which is not a no one would even think it's
an objective news source. They one of their journalists, her
name is Sarah Fisher. She does an investigative column and
I don't know how much time she put into this,
but she felt like she was breaking news. She said,
the Harris campaign has been editing news headlines and descriptions

(45:50):
in search ads that make it appear as if major
outlets support her. Google believes it sponsored disclosures are enough
to keep voters from being misled, but media outlets may
feel differently. That was from the reporter. Well, boy, she
didn't clear that with the regime. She didn't clear that
story or that research she did of the Harris campaign

(46:14):
changing headlines to make it look like the news source
was favorable to her. She got attacked mercilessly online to
the point where she had to kind of go up,
she had to kind of disparage her own work. So
she follows up her I'm reading a copy of a
tweet here or on x where she made this announcement

(46:36):
and gave a link to her story. She has to
almost apologize for such an egregious story and tweet by saying,
Harris Camp did nothing wrong. In Google, which is pretty
strict about banning spammy ads, doesn't see it as a
consumer harm. News outlets just collateral damage in this weird
ads tactic. She's just trying to apologize because she's been attacked.

(46:59):
So but it's not right. It isn't. Google's not being
a fair player here. And you know full well that
they would not allow any Republican campaign to take news
headlines and change them through their Google ads, to lead
those that would be seeing them to believe that that
headline was actually coming from the news source itself. They
would get They won't even let a story come out

(47:21):
that would be actually positive for the president, let alone
change the headline of it. So I think I think
that when something like that happens, you got to pay
attention and go wow, she kind of stepped out of
line and boy did she ever pay for it? Now,
this one, I love this one. CNN has on a guest,
and this guest is supposed to really really kind of

(47:43):
put to bed this whole stolen valor thing of of
Tim Walls. Okay, it's supposed to say, Look, he didn't
he didn't mean to. I mean, this was this was
a he decided at the beginning of two thousand and
five that he was going to he was going to retire,
and and and they didn't get their orders till well after.

(48:03):
So over the weekend, Laura Coach, she's a you know,
talking head at CNN, she interviews Tim Walls's former commander,
Sergeant major. His name is Doug Julan. Okay, and this
guy just lays it out black and white that they
got a notice in November of four So the big

(48:24):
talking points had been he alerted everyone that he was
going to retire before they were deployed or told they
were going to deploy. His superior command, Sergeant Major Doug Dulen, said, no, no, no,
we were told to get ready. It's a it's a formality,
but you get your you're put on notice. It's coming,
it's it's on its way. In November of two thousand

(48:44):
and four, he went in this interview, he lays out
and surprisingly the CNN journalist allows him to tell the story.
You'd think she knew, she would know she's off script
and kind of cut him off and try to move on,
knowing that this guy is going the wrong direction for her.
He said, look, I went to him and said, you know,
are you staying? And he's assured him that he if

(49:05):
they are deployed, he is staying. He understands this. Notice
what it means. He had people under him, He was
a leader. He was there with them to avoid having
to face that man when he was actually retiring and
getting out before he had to be deployed. He went
around his commanding officer, he went around a superior. And

(49:25):
it's there's only one reason you do that, and that
would be to avoid looking like you weren't telling the
truth when you said you weren't going to do that,
and the shame that's attached to it. And so when
you see NBC News say, oh, Governor, miss Wallas, he
misspoke when he talked about being in a battlefield and
in combat. He misspoke. This isn't stolen valor. This is
he he was going to retire ahead of time, and

(49:48):
he didn't know that he was going to be deployed.
Even CNN itself cannot carry that water, cannot split that
cease for them because they have on to tell the truth.
Even Van Jones from CNN who used to apologize or
initially defended Walls saying, yeah, this is actually a problem,
and he's saying that out loud as well. So those

(50:11):
are just moments. But in an otherwise, I think full
throated effort by the media, social media and regime media
to get this ticket, this Democrat ticket elected. And now
you know, when we come back, we are going to
have more here at on the show. I'm going to
go over some other issues. I got some clips I
got to get to. I have all these clips I

(50:32):
made and I'm not playing them free. You got to
hear these clips. It'll tell you better than I can
what's going on out there. So when we come back,
you're gonna want to hear that. But what I want
to play for you right now, and I'm really interested
if you if you listen to it and you have
a comment, I would love to hear it. The number,
of course is eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero. This is this is something that I

(50:55):
haven't seen a lot. I came across it. And you
remember at the beginning of the show I played this.
You know, one person's socialist is another person's neighborliness. And
you know, poor mister Rogers, if he were alive today,
would just would really argue that point and say, no, no, no,
I was never talking when I want you to be
my neighbor, to be the socialist, uh in my neighborhood. No, no, no,
that's not it. So uh, let's look at this is

(51:18):
the governor Walls and and his neighborliness. And I remember
he let Milwaukee burn for three days with the with
the Floyd riots and all that. When it came to
lockdowns of COVID and suburbs. Boy, he had a different
take than he did with riots. Let's let's have a listen.
You can actually this is a video, but I think
you can listen to it and hear what's really going on.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
Look at this, they just keep coming.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
Oh God die, good die, get it.

Speaker 11 (51:51):
Sie in your house.

Speaker 10 (51:53):
Now, let's go write him out. Godzi, get in, get in,
get in, getting get in, get in, get in.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Oh Okay, that was that was paintballs. Okay, those paint
guns they were shooting. Light them up? Do you hear that?
Light them up? The video, if you were to watch it,
you would see these uh fully armed, you have flak
jackets and battle gear walking down It's a suburban neighborhood.
It's homes, and the people they are screaming at are

(52:34):
clearly because you can see the video, they're filming these
people that just keep and it's in the morning. I
think it's like seven am. It's early in the morning,
and they're just like, can you believe this? Look at
what's happened is the United States of America. Look at
what they're doing. They're marching down our street like this,
and they observed them being recorded. The people that these
military members, members of the military, I would guess, are

(52:55):
the walls sent for these lockdowns to be honored and
not disobeyed, saw them in the doorway, open doorway, in
their porch, recording them and told them to get inside,
and started screaming and then said light them up, and
then they started firing on them with these paint you know,
paint pellets, and you can hear it. I just don't

(53:17):
put that in the neighborly category. It's just not it's
not neighborly to me. I don't think mister Rogers would
like that. I think mister Rogers would find a moment
like that to be kind of, I don't know, anathema
to what he I like to talk about in his
show that I loved when I was a child. What
do you what say you? I mean you hear that?
I mean, this is where this guy's mind's at. And again,

(53:40):
why is that important? Because this is the ticket and
this is the guy that they are trying to win
over this this blue wall. They talk about, we need
to win Michigan, and we need to win We certainly
need to win Minnesota, but we need to win Michigan.
We need to win Wisconsin, we need to win Ohio,
and we need to win Pennsylvania. And Governor Walls is
the guy that's going to do it because he's he's

(54:00):
you know, tripped to the hardware store and mac and cheese.
He's just such a nice guy and he's a Midwesterner.
You heard that. You heard what was going on with
this lockdown and how they were treating people to stay
in their homes in the United States of America. Is
this Does this surprise you? Is this what you're hearing
from the media? Have you seen this or heard this

(54:21):
reported anywhere else? Eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero is the number to call if you
have a comment about what we just we just heard again.
I'm I'm not going to I mean, we're going to
keep telling you the truth about this ticket and what's
going on, because I really believe that you have a

(54:43):
media that is trying to convince you and doing their
best effort to tell you that the Trump's not winning,
and Trump's not doing the right things, and he doesn't
know how to handle Kamala Harris, and he's been so
caught off guard. I can tell you from you know,
my sources at the convention, people that I know, a
US senator. I know they purposefully when Trump spoke to

(55:04):
the on the last night of the convention, he pray,
he slipped once. Okay, he said Biden's name once, but
he purposefully did not mention Biden because they full well
knew that that Biden was not going to be the nominee.
And uh, and so he they were not. They were not.
He's not caught flat footed. He's not cut. He doesn't

(55:24):
know what to do. He did not even mention Biden
in that speech, but for once, and I know once,
because there was a little wager between friendly wager that
took place and the person that didn't believe he could
resist saying Biden's name one with that one mention. But
they knew this was coming. So don't let the media
tell you that, oh, they've been caught off guard, they

(55:44):
don't know what to do, they're flat footed. That is again,
that's another false narrative meant to make you feel more insecure,
maybe discourage you from getting to vote, going out to
vote because you think you're gonna he's gonna lose. It's
it's it's what they do. Let's go to the phones again.
Eight aed eight five seven zero eight zero one zero,
your calls, your comments about what you're hearing, what we're

(56:07):
talking about with this lockdown and how Governor Walls enforced
it with paint, guns and military and all that. Let's
go to Casey in West Valley. Casey, welcome to the show.
And what's say you, sir?

Speaker 12 (56:24):
Some of my Walls who stated that, you know, we
shouldn't have weapons of war in the street, like I
carried he never carried weapons of war over in the
Middle East. But then can support a party and be
part of a party that left billions and billions of
dollars of actual military weaponry, vehicles and things like that
in our horrible exit from the Middle East. Now, when

(56:46):
I talk to people, I always ask him, can you
give me one instance where Kamala Harris or Governor Walls
did something but enacted some bill or something that was
beneficial that actually helped anyone. No one can bring up
a single instance.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Casey, You're exactly right, Thank you for the call. I
couldn't agree more. And what's bizarre is you can even
go to the White House. So this very question was asked, like, Okay,
you know, you see you guys say that you know,
Vice President Harris is great. She's now all of a sudden,
you know, right there making helping all make all decisions.

(57:23):
What actually what actual decisions has she made? What are
some of her accomplishments. This was posed to the Press
secretary at the White House. I think this was yesterday.
Let's hear the answer from Jean Pierre.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
What does the president see as the vice president's biggest
achievement during their time in pot office together.

Speaker 8 (57:42):
So look, because they've been partners, those achievements have been done. Certainly,
those historic un president achievement have been done together. I'll
say this, the President believes in the vice president leadership,
her temperament, her experience, and he is and he has
said this himself. One of the proudest decisions that he
made in twenty twenty was selecting her as vice president

(58:04):
because he believed that she can can go on day
one and you've seen that. You've seen them do that
together on day one of this administration. That doesn't change.
I'm not going to parse out anything from here.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
So the answer is that she can't parseal because she
can't name a single thing as casey the caller just
pointed out. But make no mistake, that was your official
notice that there is no daylight between Biden and Harris.
They have done this as a team. So when she
tries to say, you know, day one, no, no, we're at
day one, three hundred and two of this of this administration,

(58:43):
of which they just said, they can tell no difference.
So when we come back, we go more to your
calls eighty to eight five seven zero eight zero one
zero and talk more about this. The Democrat National Committee
or convention coming up soon. Rod will be joining the
Rod and Greg Show on Monday. Until then, Citizen Hughes
is on the job and we're going to go throughout

(59:04):
the rest of the show and this week with a
lot of important details for you on your drive home
or wherever you may be today. Okay, look, I want
to play a couple of things for you. This This
is one of these things that you can't tell who
Kamala Harris is by what she says. She says there's
a day one in her life. We knows a it's
a day one thousand, three hundred and two that she's

(59:26):
been on the job and on the clock. She's now
tough on I don't know if you know this, but
the borders are, with the fifteen million undocumented people that
have come across this border in those one thousand, three
hundred days, she was tough on crime when she was
in California. Boy, she's going to be now when she's
given a shot. Is if the borders are hasn't been
given a shot yet. It all reminds me. It just

(59:46):
puts a song in my head. And you know, I'm
a child of the eighties. Right, Well, this is my
Kamala Harris. We're gonna talk. We'll talk about her more.
But this is what is what I hear. I don't
even this is involuntary. This is what I hear. Come

(01:00:09):
and I'm going to so that's what I hear. I
can't help it. It's just in my head. She's a chameleon.
She is Kamala a chameleon. So I think you know,
boy Georgian, he was onto something back in the day.
Here's a clip. This is literally almost two months of
the day apart. You're going to hear a Donald Trump
on It was June tenth of twenty four, and then

(01:00:30):
you're gonna hear Kamala Harris. I think it was August
ninth of twenty four. Let's listen to this clip real quick, because.

Speaker 11 (01:00:36):
When I get to office, we are going to not
charge taxes on tips people making.

Speaker 8 (01:00:42):
Tips, eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Isn't that amazing? I mean, she just came up with
that on her own. I don't even know how she
ever thought of such a good idea. Donald Trump has
received such strong support for not wanting to put taxes
on tips. I had a lot of tipping jobs growing up.
I was a valet at a restaurant. I was a
bell hop at the at the Sheraton and Pittsburgh growing up.
I know what tips are about, and I know what

(01:01:15):
it means when you depend on tips. Very popular tax
policy back when Donald Trump support or proposed it. This
is how CBS News reported his announcement. He said, former President,
it says the headline is former President Donald Trump's vow
to stop taxing tips would cost the federal government up
to two hundred and fifty billion dollars over ten years,

(01:01:37):
according to a non partisan watchdog group. So it was
a very draconian idea for him to suggest that we
not tax tips. Just you know, two months later, when
Kamala Harris and it makes the exact same announcement, her
trying to, you know, be Donald Trump. The same news

(01:01:58):
source CBS News. It's its headline is Vice President Kamala
Harris is rolling out a new policy position, saying show
fight to end taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
Was there a difference in tone there and in facts?
When you heard that was to me, let's see what
time is it. Let's do we have time for a

(01:02:19):
call you?

Speaker 7 (01:02:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Okay, let me get let me go to Tyler. Tyler
has been patiently waiting on the phone. Let me let's
hear from Tyler. From Sandy Tyler, welcome to the program, sir, Hey, Greg, good,
what's on your mind? Did we lose them?

Speaker 9 (01:02:41):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Tyler? If you if you hear this call back? I
wanted to hear from Tyler again. I love the calls.
I think you guys are reading this so well and
it adds to this show when we get when we
get your take, so eight eight eight five seven zero
eight zero one zero so but honest, So let's go back.

(01:03:03):
Tyler called back due diligence. Here we go, Tyler. Are
you there, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
Hey Greg? Yeah? Can you hear it?

Speaker 13 (01:03:10):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
I can hear you. We're coming up to a heartbreak
here and yet about fifty seconds. What's the use sir?

Speaker 7 (01:03:15):
Okay, hey, hey, I just wanted to talk about Greg
Abbott and requiring kind of documenting illegals, if they if
they on reporting, if if they come into the hospital
or stuff like that, and starting to attract some of
the costs of illegals in our country. And I wanted
to get your take on UTAH doing that, because I
think we just don't recognize the costs, you know, from corrections.

(01:03:38):
I know in corrections it's over five hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
A day for somebody to be in there. And then
talk about, you know, going to the emergency room. I know,
if I take my kids the emergency room, it costs
thousands of dollars. But when some of those costs for
illegals in the hospital, hospitals corrections, Utah starts tracking some
of that so people actually see the costs and this

(01:04:02):
effect not only on crime and safety, but some of
the financial costs.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yes, you know, Tyler, it's a great observation. Thank you
for the call. And you know what I have found
when I was a state lawmaker and even as I
stay in touch with those that are public servants, now
there's a hesitation with some of these hospitals to ask
those questions and get that kind of data for us
to actually understand the fiscal impact of all this. I mean,

(01:04:32):
I'll tell you what, if you're on Obamacare, if you're
getting free socialized medicine, I guess good for you. But
I'll tell you what I don't think the affordable Care
Act has made healthcare delivery any more affordable, any more accessible.
It is a massive portion of your household income every month.
When we come back, we've got more. We're going to
talk about a trust issue, trust women if you vote

(01:04:53):
for Kamala don't if you don't this story that we're
about to hear, and the gentleman that we're about to
speak with and Ian Howarth, I just love the title
of this story so much. There is so much to unpack.
There's so many ways you can go with this joining
us on the program, Ian Howarth, as I said, off
Limits is his YouTube Off Limits with Ian Howard Howarth

(01:05:16):
is His YouTube channel has a syndicated calum and this
is a title and as soon as you hear the title,
you'll know how fun this interview is going to be.
Kamala Harris trust women, which is her big sign. You
know she's got that and you'll see it at the
Democrat National Convention. Kamala Harris trusts women unless they vote
for Trump. Ian, thank you for joining us on the program.

Speaker 13 (01:05:36):
Yeah, thanks having me great, great to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
I could start with any question under the sun, but
I just you know, I would just love for you
to just share. Is she really ready to trust women?
I mean, she says it interesting, she'll have a lot
of signs, But is Kamala Harris really ready to trust
women in America?

Speaker 13 (01:05:56):
I think she's ready to trust the exact women who
are already ready to vote her. And if you're a
woman who dares to say oppose abortion, or want to
own a firearm, or cares about illegal immigrants who are
raping and murdering across the country, then maybe she doesn't
want us to trust them quite so much.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
Yeah, that's that's my hunch as well. I think that
it's like that, remember the National Art now the National
Organization of Women, how they would support a man, a
guys candidate over a female candidate as the female candidate
was Republican. So let me just ask you, though, trust women.
They're going to try and make this reproductive rights like
the big issue. Let's talk about the kitchen table, Let's

(01:06:33):
talk about prices, Let's just talk about you know, public safety,
illegal immigration. How what is your sense in terms of
where people are in terms of male female gender. Do
you think that that Donald Trump has an issue, has
a gender gap or a problem with female voters.

Speaker 13 (01:06:52):
I don't think he has a single issue with female
voters when it comes to the actual issues. If you
ask voters about things like safety, about crime, that immigration,
you know, about economic concerns, I mean the fact that
food is becoming unaffordable for people. There was a really
interesting interview on NBC a day or so ago where

(01:07:12):
they had a panel of black voters and one of
the black female voters was saying how inflation is her
number one concern. And so when it comes to Trump
versus Karmala Harris is really an obvious choice. But that's
why the entire Democratic Party is leaning so hard into
nonsense terms like, you know, Kamala Harris's rediscovered joy, mind

(01:07:35):
your own business, all of these meaningless phrases that are
actually the opposite of what they're all about. There's nothing
joyous about Karmala Harris. They really don't want to mind
their own business when it comes to telling us how
to love a life, how to spend our money, how
to worship. That's all they have. And that's why she's
leaning extra hard into the identity politics routine of by
the way, I'm a black woman. Have you noticed I'm

(01:07:57):
a black woman. You should vote for me because I'm
a black woman, is you know? Heaven forbid? We actually
focus on policies and move on from the racist idea
that your skin color or the biggest the idea that
your gender means anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
Yeah, you see her just sprinting as fast as she
can away from any substantive issues, and the media helping
her do that. Let me ask you this, It doesn't
go unnoticed by me that I think that party and
Kamala Harris has a little difficulty in defining a woman
at times. Is the is the irony of how you

(01:08:29):
would even define a woman? Going to catch up to
a candidate Harris where she says trust women.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Is this ever?

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Are these issues ever going to converge?

Speaker 13 (01:08:39):
No, of course not, because I think if you look
at Democrats, they lie with both sides of their base
on every single issue.

Speaker 10 (01:08:45):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
They can talk about health care and then openly advocate
for the murder of the unborn. They can talk about
hopes of safety and security, then advocate to take away
people's ability to defend themselves, their property, and their communities.
Everything the Democrats do is lying to one community and
then line to another and really hoping most people don't mix.
That's I think why they're so afraid of things like

(01:09:06):
big tech and specifically you know, ex and Twitter, which
isn't under the control of the left, is that people
are actually discovering the lies they're being told. In the
old day, you could go to one event, say like
a women's group for example, go on and on about
how you want to support women, and then you can
go to another group and stay quite the opposite and
they would never find out. And that's not the world
we live in these days. And so I think when
they talk about women, it's just one of many identity

(01:09:28):
groups they're trying to pander to. And this is all
about pandering.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
This is why Kamala.

Speaker 13 (01:09:32):
Harris puts on what she thinks is a black accent
when she goes to Atlanta. It's all the same, really
offensive nonsense that I'm hoping people realize is it's just
pandering and to some extent pretentious, some accept arrogant, but
so patronizing. It amazes me that anyone falls with.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
This, honestly, So I'm with you. I would hope that
there's common sense and people would see just how shallow
these pleas and this case she's making, this narrative is
One of the things that you brought up in your
article that brings me hope is that you compare. You
had a good comparison. You said, look Barack Obama in
a way I mean hope and change. He was very

(01:10:11):
persuasive in saying that he was a different brand. He
was different, he had his narrative was believable to a
large extent. This is not a Barack Obama. Kamala Harris
is not Barack Obama. Will do you think that she
can succeed in trying to change the narrative or state
that she is someone different than she fundamentally is.

Speaker 13 (01:10:35):
I mean, I think a lot of it. Unfortunately, it
almost doesn't matter how successful she is in this because
she has the media in her back pocket. I mean
a lot of people are saying that she has to
have a debate, she has to be interviewed, she has
to pay questions. I think we're missing one of the
options here, which is what if she doesn't. What if
the media quite willing to help her hide right until
the election, and then they can ask all the tough

(01:10:56):
questions they want when she's already won. You know, I
think we thought to some extent the same thing about
Joe Biden in twenty twenty. You know, the man could
barely swallow slightly melted ice cream, and we thought, how
could he possibly be Donald Trump? And it happened, And
I think the same thing could happen with Karmala Harris,
where it doesn't matter. There are so many people out
there who will vote for you know, would vote for

(01:11:17):
a bag of potatoes that ment voting against Donald Trump.
And I think that's really the challenge of the GOP
is to try and reach those people and keep people
focused on policies, because on policies, Trump wins one hundred
times out of one hundred. If we allow the left
and under Karmala Harris to play the game of vibes
and joy and all of these meaningless things that don't
actually matter in people's lives, then I think they have

(01:11:39):
a chance. And so it almost doesn't matter whether she
convinces people that she's in any way smart, that she's
a great orator, that she's in any way talented, any
way knowledgeable. We all know she's not, but it doesn't matter.
It won't be the first time an idiot has been
elected as president of the United States, and so I
think we need to really be focusing on the issues,
because that's what matters to voters, that's what shouldn't vot it.

(01:12:01):
But when you have the media in your back pocket,
you can get away with an awful lot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
You sure can. And we're watching it, and I don't
care how many people I talk to. It seeps into
your mindset. You think, oh, we're losing in these roust
belt states, whether she's getting at she's come, she's ahead,
all these things start to seep in, even though the
sources that are telling you that aren't that trustworthy. Let
me ask you this the final question. We haven't even

(01:12:25):
had the Democrat National Convention yet, and we're going to get.
The dose of this that we're going to get is
just going to be for me. It's going to be
stomach turney. Are they going to be able? This is
because you're a thought leader, You have great insight and
just there's no right or wrong answer to it's just
for your thoughts, your opinion. Are they going to be
able to effectively stigmatize Donald Trump with women? Are women going?

(01:12:49):
Is there going to be a shy Trump vote where
if you're a female you are going to hide and
not express your support for Trump because the Kamala Harris
Kamala Harris campaign has done such a good job of
saying that all women support her and that you have
a moral failing if you didn't support her. Are they
going to get away with that? Is there going to
be a shy Trump vote for women out there this year?

Speaker 13 (01:13:12):
I don't think it will be anywhere near as much
as was the case in twenty twenty. I think there's
the main reasons for this is that all they have
left is abortion. All of the Democratic Party has left
to shove down women's throats in terms of look at
the other side, they're evil. That handmade's tale is abortion.
Because if you look at economics, and we live in
a world, thankfully where women have just as much of

(01:13:33):
the say, economically as men, if not more so, then
Biden normics has been a catastrophic failure. And we were
told that Kamala Harris was right at the front driving
the bus for Joe Biden, so she can't really stand
on that. We look at foreign policy, she was part
of the conversation, She was the last person in the
room when it came to the Afghanistan withdrawal. Look how
that went and we look at crime, which is something

(01:13:53):
that the vast majority of women, if not all women,
should care about. If you actually look at the victims
of a lot of these immigration policies, for example, women
being attacked, women being robbed, women being raped, women being killed,
then I think you should be looking at that issue
in deciding, well, I might not like what Trump says occasionally,
but I'm certainly stafer under Donald Trump, and I am

(01:14:14):
under Joe Biden and under Kamala Harris, and so I
think that's really what it hinges on, is how the
GOP can handle the topic of abortion, because that's all
they have left at this point. And I had to
make an addition. I think that's going to be what
they lean into as hard as they possibly can. And
we've already seen it in the last couple of years,
and I think we're going to see it on steroids
until November.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
I agree, And I think if we call the shot,
we can blunt some of the effectiveness of that, and
that's what you're certainly doing. Ian Howarth joining US political commentator,
syndicated columnist, and you have a YouTube channel Off Limits
with Ian Howard how Ours. Thank you for joining us,
joining the program Sir, We appreciate your insight. Keep up
the good work.

Speaker 9 (01:14:51):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
It's a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Thank you. Okay, folks, when we come back, we're going
to get into some of these poll and I'm going
to dive into some of these numbers you are being
told that she's doing so phenomenally. Well, I'm going to
give you sources and we're going to give you sites
that even the other side, CNN all of them. They're
trying to tamp down the excitement and exuberance from the
Democrat side because this is not over and this is

(01:15:14):
not the lead that you would be led to believe
they have going into their convention here this month. So
when we come back, we will get into that. We
had a great we had just a great discussion about this.
I think it's just a trojan horse. We just have
narratives that don't match the candidate. With Kamala, you have

(01:15:34):
a media that's not carrying water but parting the seas
for her in terms of not wanting her to be
in uncomfortable situations where she may have to answer questions.
And then you get to the polls, and the polls
if we are to believe them or if we as
we are told about them. She has narrowed this gap
where Trump was winning by large and comfortable numbers against Biden,
and now that they've switched candidates, she has overtaken him

(01:15:58):
and is actually leading in critical states. And it leaves
a lot of handwringing. A lot of people are going, oh, no,
what's going on? And and and it seems on its
face to be working. Well, there's a lot going on
with these polls, and I want to I want to
just describe to you some of the things that there's
some cynicism out there with the polls. The one that's
getting a lot of attention right now, this New York

(01:16:18):
Times siena poll that shows that she that Kamo's leading nationally,
but she's also leading in critical states like Pennsylvania and
in battleground states like Michigan. This is where the questions
are being asked that this poll. And it's usually a
lot of everyone says, there's nothing wrong with this pole,
it's usually very dependable, but they are they are saying
that in that polling in May, when Trump was running

(01:16:41):
against Biden, he was enjoying with the working class, as
are non non college white voters, he had a thirty
six a thirty six point advantage, and that advantage has
shrunk to just twenty four points now. And that is
a shift and number and in percent that people are
shaking their head going, we don't think that's even possible.

(01:17:03):
They think that that demographic in that poll was undersampled.
I'm going to play for you a clip, and this
is why I think the working class has not shifted
on its ear towards Kamala Harris as the poll the
New York Times Sena Pole would have suggested. I mean,
the percentage of change in the working class people of
the United States and in these battleground states is stunning.

(01:17:25):
It's double digit. It's it's it would be unbelievable in
such a short time to see such a shift over
to the Harris campaign. Let's listen to George Launce. Now,
this is on CNN. This is again, this isn't Fox,
this isn't a conservative uh news channel. This is a
lunch talking and he's a polster. And he does a
lot of focus groups talking about Donald Trump in his

(01:17:49):
relationship with the working class and specifically members of unions.

Speaker 11 (01:17:54):
Donald Trump is doing better among the average union member
now teachers' unions, and not the unions for government, but
everybody else, the trades people work in their hands. He's
doing better among them than any Republican has done in decades.
This is not going to be a problem for him.
The union leadership is more divided from their membership, and

(01:18:15):
the louder that it gets, the greater the divides are
going to come in and my focus groups, and this
is remarkable to me. The union membership says they don't
speak for me. And I've been doing this now since
nineteen I hate to say this, eighty nine, nineteen ninety.
I've never had union people publicly say they don't speak

(01:18:35):
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
There you go, and so you're going to tell me
that in those polls and in those numbers, and unions
have a strong presence. I born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania is one of those battles around stay southwest Pennsylvania.
I said this back in sixteen that I knew the
working the working class to the average everyday American, and
particularly in Pittsburgh, they were looking at Trump. Trump had

(01:18:58):
the Reagan Democrats as they used to be called, were
Trump Democrats and That was something that I pointed out
back in twenty sixteen when I endorsed the president when
I was Speaker of the House. That has only grown
since those days. And so we're eight years later, you're
seeing a much stronger sentiment now. So again to see
that none or non college degree white voter, which is

(01:19:22):
also your working class, your union members, to see that
number shrink so drastically in this poll for Kamala Harris
and away from Donald Trump, it just doesn't comport with
with what these poles are saying. So take heart, this
isn't what they're saying it is. Here's another example. This
isn't an a clip that I'll read it to you.

(01:19:42):
So CNN, I think they're trying to and they're not
doing this because they're being good journalists. They're doing this
because they want to win and they don't want anyone
getting too cocky. They don't want them to think that
all the propaganda they're pushing out that their side should
vote should believe it, and so they shouldn't vote because
it's in the bag. So they're trying to they're trying
to tamp down all this excitement for Kamala Harris that

(01:20:03):
they've helped create. And this is the point that Henry Enton,
who's CNN's top polling analyst, just said recently. He said,
look back in sixteen and the twenty twenty presidential elections,
polls were significantly off in representing Trump's support across the country.
So he did he did a little experiment. So yesterday

(01:20:25):
August thirteenth, how far were the polls off in Michigan
and Pennsylvania and Wisconsin in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty
and on August thirteenth versus what the poll with the
election actually produced by way of votes. So if you
take a look at twenty sixteen in those states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,
the polls on August thirteenth were, let me see, they

(01:20:51):
were nine percentage points off, meaning that Trump did nine
percentage points better than what the polls on August thirteenth
were saying. And really those polls didn't change much from
August thirteenth the election day. Trump never saw a day
where he looked like he was ahead. But they were
nine points off on August thirteenth and twenty sixteen. What
about in twenty twenty, well, they were off by five

(01:21:12):
percentage points. Okay, they were off again underestimating the strength
and support of Donald Trump in those critical states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
And I would argue all across the country. I think
every I think the shy Trump vote and the undersampling
of people that really support Trump, I think that still
exists in polls today. So when you look at the

(01:21:33):
polls that say that Kamala has you know, she's covered
the gap and now she's ahead two point eight percent
one point something percent. There's not even a four percent
a lead that they're assigning to her. And they're admitting
that the under reporting and the lower percentage for Trump
in sixteen and twenty were by number, by percentages of

(01:21:55):
nine and five percent. So what he's warning everyone is
bottom line. This is his words. Bottom line. If you
have any If if you're a Kamala Harris fan and
you want to rip open, rip open the champagne bottle,
pop that court, do not do it. Donald Trump is
very much in this race, and if we have polling
shifts like we've seen in prior years from now until
the final result, donald Trump would actually win. That's from CNN,

(01:22:20):
and I'm telling you they're not. They're not being journalists there.
They're just trying to warn their side that they're not.
Those polls are meant to help and create momentum. But
don't don't get comfortable because Donald Trump can win with
the with how wrong they've been in the past. So
important for you to know. That's why I'm here and
uh and act accordingly, folks, that's what you do. So look,

(01:22:42):
when we come back, we're going to talk and we're
gonna have another discussion about Kamala Harris and the rat
radicalism that she is that even the Democrats themselves don't
know much about. We're going to talk to Tim Graham
from NewsBusters. He's a media research center, their Media research
center out this what the Democrats don't even know about

(01:23:02):
their own candidate that they're so excited about. When we
come back from the break. I watched a video, I
think it was just just yesterday, where people were asking
at at a Kamala Harris rally, you know what is
it about Kamala Harris that you that you like? What
are her positions? And they were getting these innocuous answers like, well,
she's just she's just everything. She's just perfect she's the

(01:23:24):
real deal, and the in the person interviewing is trying
to press them on why, and there were some silly answers,
but a lot of people didn't have a very good
litany of issues that they could point to that Harris
has advocated for. Well, our next guest is going to
give us some context to that that wasn't as maybe

(01:23:45):
anecdotal as I thought. There's some startling I think polling
that's coming out right now. Joining us on the program
is Tim Graham, executive editor of NewsBusters the Media Research Center,
and Tim, first off, welcome to the show. Thank you
for joinning us. Oh you bet now you this. You
have a poll and you have some startling, I think

(01:24:07):
startling information or data to share with the listeners about
where those that voted for Joe Biden, be it affiliated,
self affiliated as Democrat or independent. Where are they on
the issues of Kamala Harris. Are they excited because she
aligns with their issues? What did your polling show?

Speaker 9 (01:24:27):
Well, we were actually interested in how much people know
about where she stands, you know, and these are Biden voters,
and what you found was most of them weren't aware
of the position she took when she was running for president.
For example, she supported the elimination of private health insurance

(01:24:47):
right like a European style system single payer or Canadian
style system. Only nineteen percent knew that she supported that
would allow would consider allowing death row inmates to vote.
Fourteen percent were aware, eighty six percent were unaware. This
is sort of my favorite, or on favorite. Harris promoted

(01:25:10):
a fund to bail out violent protesters in Minneapolis during
the twenty twenty George Floyd riots. Only twenty two percent
of the voters were aware of that. You know, she
supported abolishing ICE, the immigration enforcers. Twenty three percent were aware,
So you get that whole idea of she took some

(01:25:32):
I would argue controversial positions and nobody knows that they happen.
And part of the reason for that was our liberal
media who don't want to tell you these things and
don't And so you know, it's one thing to say, well,
we didn't tell her these things when she was running
in the primaries because there were literally more than twenty candidates.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Last time. But then when he nominated to be vice president, that's.

Speaker 9 (01:26:03):
A glowing opportunity to revisit what she ran on.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
So let me ask you this. These numbers, these are
real time numbers. It's not she's been on the clock
now I've been counting. It's she says she has a
day one in her future. We count oney, three hundred
and two days she's been on the clock, So there
is no day one for that day. He was on
January twentieth of twenty twenty one. So my question to
you is, if seventy percent of Democrats and Independence are

(01:26:33):
mostly in the dark about these radical, radical positions, where
does the truth where? How do we get the truth out?
Will they ever find out? Will it actually change? I
guess the better question is will it change their vote
when they find out that she is radical as they
might not have realized.

Speaker 9 (01:26:52):
Well, the other thing she's going to do is try
to say that, you know, I don't have those positions anymore.
Look at her on cracking. Oh I'm not fracking. But
she didn't say that herself. You know, it's an unnamed
Harris campaign spokesman tells you she changed her mind. And
that's where we are. And the fact of the matter is,
if you're watching the stories on the Harris Walls campaign

(01:27:15):
right now, they're not covering the issues they're covering look
at the joy, look at the momentum, look at Kamala
saying that Trump's a crook. You know, they're not focusing
on what the issues the Democrats are pushing. Maybe they'll say, oh,
it's great, she's for reproductive rights. You know, they might

(01:27:35):
have a little bit of that. Of course, they won't
tell you that the Democrats are extreme on abortion, even
if they are right. They're for abortion at any time,
for any reason, and if necessary, the government should fund it.
You know, they'll say the Republicans are extreme for being
exactly the opposite. Hopefully we'll see some of these issues

(01:27:59):
during the convention. This is when, again it's an obvious time.
Where is their platform. I haven't seen any discussion of
their platform, what's in it? What is she standing for?
And you know, if we're going to come out of
the convention and still not know, then the media is
really really terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:28:18):
Well, my prediction it's him is that they're they're they
they are. They feel no obligation to discuss or even
narrate whether she what position she used to have or
did has or she's moved away from that position. I'm
going to read a this is a tweet or a
post on X from you know, one of these blue
check libs, and it says, the paramount objective for Kamala

(01:28:41):
Harris is to win this election. If a press conference
helps her win, she should do it. If not, she
shouldn't do it. It's just that simple. She has no
moral obligation to talk to the press. My question, my
question is, or my fear is that the press actually
agrees with that. What a what an arrogant and unbelievably

(01:29:01):
elitist attitude to have that there is no moral obligation
to be transparent, to discuss issues, to account for what
you would do and or what you believe in to
the people. Do you worry that this sentiment that was
expressed that she's under no moral obligation to ever talk
to the press if it in fact benefits their election,

(01:29:23):
Will that carry the day with the American people?

Speaker 9 (01:29:28):
I think that I think that a lot of voters
expect her to engage with the press. And I think,
what it's not just that this idea that somehow the
press represent the voters and therefore you have to talk
to the press. It's more an idea of Kamala Harris
needs to engage with the press so that we can
see if she can form complete sentences. It makes sense,

(01:29:50):
you know what I mean. It's it's a competence issue,
it really is. And what they're doing by hiding her,
you know, and letting her just re the teleprompter, they're
they're they're getting around the competence issue. I mean, I
do tend to agree with you on this notion of
the news media is perfectly fine with being ignored. Uh

(01:30:13):
if if she can win by that strategy, and that
that's where you I just call them the zero self
respect press. You know, they ran around during the Trump
years saying we are so important to preserve democracy, but
they equate democratic victory with democracy. So it's it's not
we hold people accountable, it's we only hold the other

(01:30:36):
party accountable. And by holding them accountable, it means mirroring
them with false conspiracy theories like the Russians installed Trump.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
You know, timis is my I guess my last question.
I really appreciate this discussion and and the research and
the pulling that you're doing. But but here's here's what
I wonder. Have they has the media jumped the shark
on this? Have they just gone too far? Is there
just too much out on the public record? Is there
too much that needs to be talked about? Is having
a Biden basement campaign for Kamala Harris, who's clearly younger

(01:31:11):
and more and should be more capable. Will they have
gone too far by never pushing her or pressing her
for answers and explaining herself and hiding her and the
media being not only just complicit but promoting that. Will
Nielsen rings are going down fro MSNBCCNN right now as
the ratings come out. They should be going up in

(01:31:32):
an election year, they're continuing to go downward. Is this
the beginning of the end? Or are we in the
middle of the end of traditionalgi as I call them
regime media or are they going to get away with this?

Speaker 9 (01:31:44):
Well, you know, traditional media whatever it was ended in
twenty sixteen. Yeah, you know, the entire idea that the
press was here for all the voters really ended in
twenty six team.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Is that?

Speaker 9 (01:32:01):
Yes, I think we can harm you by the nature
of what the press does. They do see it as
their objective to defeat Trump. I don't think you can
watch the networks or read the national newspapers and come
away with the impression that they are there for all
the people. You know, they are there for the Democrats.

(01:32:22):
They're there to please the Democrats. They're there to keep
the morale of the Democrats up, which is why their
idea of a news story right now is to praise
the momentum that the joyful warriors are having.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
Yes, yeah, it is.

Speaker 9 (01:32:34):
It is sad, and I think in the end, you know,
those independent voters in the middle are going to still
expect that the press is supposed to do what they're
supposed to do, and a presidential candidate is supposed to
do what a presidential candidate's supposed to do.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Tim Graham, executive editor a NewsBusters Media Research Center, Thank you,
sir for again your research you're pulling and your input.
We appreciate you, and thank you for joining us on
the program.

Speaker 9 (01:33:01):
You bet, thanks, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
Okay, folks, we're coming up to the last of the show.
We have a final segment wrap up the thoughts of
the day. You won't want to miss it. You're listening
to the Roden greg Show here on Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Canteris final thoughts for me here, I'm
gonna play This is from MSNBC. Okay, again, if I
catch these people accidentally and without intention informing their viewers

(01:33:28):
in ways that they really didn't want to, or they're
warning them because they want them to be ready for
what's coming because they think it's going to harm them.
If I see it, I'm going to report it and
I'm going to share it with you. This is a
segment on MSNBC where they are warning about what the Republicans. Now,
you got to take the context of this. This is

(01:33:48):
framed as a negative. This is what the Republicans are
about to do. The dastardly Republicans are about to do
are going to do in this election, is they're going
to talk about these things and it's it's a supposed
to be viewed as bad news. It is bad news
for them, but for good reasons for us. But listen
how this is framed. But look at the on it.

(01:34:09):
This is a true statement of what you're going to
hear in the weeks in the months to come.

Speaker 14 (01:34:14):
What you see Republicans doing at the RNC and various
campaigns is here's what gas costs, Here's what milk costs,
here's what an apartment cost. On January twentieth, twenty twenty one,
and here's what it costs now. And those numbers are
really bad for the Harris campaign.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
You hear that, Yeah, they're really bad for the Harris campaign.
You know why, because they're really bad for Americans. They're
bad for all of us. The reason why you're going
to hear that is because it's true. I saw this.
I saw this picture of a billboard in Fresno, California.
There good for the Fresno County Republican Party. They have

(01:34:50):
a picture and it's got Donald Trump on one side
and he's holding a bag of groceries and it says
ninety seven dollars. And then on the other side of
the camp of the billboard, it has a pick sure
of Joe Biden and he's holding a bag of groceries
and it says two hundred and ninety seven dollars. And
in the middle between them it says, you choose ninety
seven dollars worth of groceries, and for those same groceries

(01:35:13):
four years later, two hundred and ninety seven dollars. Because
here's the thing we keep talking about. Inflation and lumbers
came out today and it only went up two point
nine percent, which is lower than we thought. If you
were gaining weight and you had a weight problem, you
still gained weight this quarter. You've gained two point nine pounds.
They thought you were going to gain three and a
half four pounds. You only gained two point nine. That
didn't mean you lost weight. Inflation has not gone down,

(01:35:36):
it's just gone up by only two point nine percent. Well,
what they don't count in CPI, the Consumer Price Index,
is that they don't count food because it's too volatile.
They don't count fuel like gasoline, electricity because it's too volatile.
They don't count housing, which is your mortgage rates or
your rent because it's too volatile. So when you see

(01:35:56):
numbers like that, when you see the disparity in groceries,
and it's not three percent or two point nine percent,
and it's you take the accumulation of all of it.
But then when you take categories like food, it's way
it's the percentage is way way higher. This ninety seven
dollars worth of groceries, you're paying two hundred and ninety
seven dollars. Now, it is that simple, that is that's

(01:36:17):
the whole. That's the election. In a nutshell, what's your
border looked like when you know, in the four years
that the President Biden or President Trump was in office
versus today, What did your grocery bill look like? What
did it take to build up a gas tank of gas?
What was your mortgage like? How how affordable was the
housing by way of rent or mortgage? What did the

(01:36:37):
world look like? Were we in wars all over the world?
Was Hamas and Israel at war? Was Russia and Ukraine
at war? These the answers to all of that is no.
And the answer to your pocketbook in the in the
you know, kitchen table issues is that it is without
question better in President Trump's four years twenty sixteen to

(01:36:59):
twenty two versus twenty one to twenty four. And we
don't get this chance very often, ladies and gentlemen, to
really compare two consecutive terms right next to each other.
And that's what we get to do in this one.
Usually you have a candidate who's an incumbent, they have
a record, they have to defend, a promise to make
on how to continue forward, and then you have someone
who's never been president who says, on day one, sorry,

(01:37:22):
Commonly you don't get a day one you're on day
one than three hundred and two on day one. This
is the way it'll be. And it's all prospective, it's
all pie in the sky. Well, we have a far
more substantive discussion in front of us now and issues
that we can compare shoulder to shoulder. And when you
do that, as our guests have said today and as

(01:37:43):
s callers have said, when you do that, it's not
even a contest. I love this. So if you followed
Kamala Harris in voter integrity, she doesn't want you to
have a use a state issued idea to vote because
that's voter suppression. But they get into our raw. You needed,
you needed a government issued I D to get into

(01:38:03):
a rally. Work that out in your mind. See you tomorrow.

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