The Rod and Greg Show: Utah's Misleading DEI Ban; Five Challenges Trump Faces in Execution of His Mass Deportation Plan

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We had good football on Saturday.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sports over the weekend. Yeah, tough one for me. The
Utes looked simply awful on Friday night. You know, Texas
looked simply awful Saturday.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
That's the one that broke my heart for you, because
I know you're a bit you know you went that
school time.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Now the one thing that did redeem The Yankees and
Dodgers are into the World Series, and I know that
bothered you. And it's fine because because it you know,
you've got the two best teams of money can buy either.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It's just there's no other professional sport that let's you know,
the richest teams in the biggest markets spend the most
money on players. It doesn't work that way in the
NFL or NBA or hockey, NHL, no one else. They
just just just your baseball. I love I do love
baseball tradition, but I do think the economics of it
are broke.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But they're changing, you know what you know.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
I said about I do. I'm a b y U fan,
not a YOUTE fan. So sometimes I like to watch
the Utah games when they're losing because watching this the
horror on the faces of the fans and they're just
so upset. Every every long pass against the use they
yell for a flag and every long pass every no,
there's never a successful play that they don't protest for

(01:12):
the other team. So I like to watch it for
that reason. But watching this TCU game, they were already
like they weren't upset about it. The fans i'd like
to accepted their fate by the first quarter and it
wasn't fun. Even I was bored by.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
The eleventh in the country right now that they're going
to win the Big twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
They're lucky to have won that game. That was they
had one minute left to drive that ball and away.
They hadn't been running their offense up till that point,
So hats off that for that victory. But that was
a that looked like an upset in the making.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I have one question to ask, Yeah, why do we
have to start playing football at eight thirty at night?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
You know, the networks think that that the people at
back East, that that game starts at ten and ends
at after midnight one o'clock, that they get a pretty
good audience of people that are yeah, watching it at night.
In fact, my cousin Matt in Pittsburgh he gets to
watch a lot more BYU games because it's those late
games game Saturday night and it's the only one on

(02:07):
so they get to watch it. That's it. I'll take that.
But I think the Friday college football games is stupid.
I don't like that. I like Friday for high school.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Neither do I. All Right, we have got a lot
to get to, a lot to get to. Today, we're
on to talk about the state legislature signed into law
by the governor was a ban on DEI diversity, equity
and inclusion at our state offices in college campuses. Right. Well,
apparently the University of Utah has found a way around
all of this. We'll talk about that. And we can't

(02:37):
forget we have Billy, Joel and Sting tickets to give
away today. Today's day is going to be named that
tune with Rod and Greg coming up sometime this afternoon. Yeah,
get you, and you know we'll see. Last week they
had a tough time, so.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
We had two weeks of boom boom. It was just
they just off. And the last week we we win
three rounds, three three callers, three rounds.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yeah, that's fun. It was fun, all right. A lot
going on in politics. What's the latest that is sparking
your interest, mister Hughes as we begin the show on
this Monday.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Ladies and gentlemen, I monitor this race every minute of
every day you do until we get to Tuesday. I
am watching everything. I'm watching the polls, I'm watching the analytics.
I even signed up for this Nate Silver's bulletin on
substack to watch his analytics. And he's an admitted Harris supporter,
so he admits his bias, but he is trying his

(03:33):
level best to give analytical information. Today's beauty this weekend's
beautiful essay was twenty four reasons why Trump can win,
which must be just torture for him to write, and
even some of that logic was strained, but it was it's.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Where I thought were pretty good. For the most part.
They are.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
They're not consistent, but for a guy that wants Harris
to win and knows that most of his subscribers to
his bullet Silver Bulletin are Democrats that want Kamala Harris
to win, it's his best chance, it's best shot at
someone trying to be objective, and I thought he you know,
I thought he did a decent job He's pointing to
a like it that it is much much harder for
Harris to win than for Trump, for them for Trump

(04:13):
to lose. At this point of the race, he believes
that all the trends, everything that's going, the modeling he
shows now has Trump ahead as a likely winner. It's slim.
But he says, if you're if you're one of these
two candidates with a slim victory, you want to be
the one that was back and not winning and be
the one that's ahead right now. Then the other way around.
She is slipping, and he is finding it is hard

(04:34):
for him to identify where she's going to change this narrative.
October surprises. I don't think there's any sentences left about
Trump that you can say that would surprise anyone about
Trump at this point. So there, So there's that. So
that's the analytics, the modeling side, even the even the polls,
and folks, we're we're in new territory because we've never seen,
whether it was a sixteen race or the twenty race,

(04:55):
we never saw a time where Trump was ahead in
any poll in October two weeks out there in the
twenty twenty, he was further ahead than Hillary was in
sixteen and it was outside the margin of ara, so
it was six percent plus in all the battleground states.
It didn't I mean, you had to really pin all
your hopes on him under polling. Today we know that

(05:17):
there's I believe there's still an under poll there's still
a shy Trump vote to some degree, although he's getting
much more popular, but he's ahead. He's ahead in all
these poles. And here's so you're seeing the polls much,
not by much, and some are within some are within
the margin of air. You have that, you have the
analytics that are showing that he has a more likely
chance of winning than losing. But I think one of
the strongest tells is that Bob Casey, who's running for

(05:40):
reelection as the US Senator, the Democrat in Pennsylvania. And
I think who wins Pennsylvania wins the whole thing. I
think that's the that's the one I really do. Nineteen
electoral votes if you win, I don't see either candidate
winning that without that state. He has been he has
never liked Trump, he voted to impeach him twice. He
has been one hundred percent voting with Chuck Schumer and
Joe Biden, and he is running ads with with Trump

(06:03):
on his ads right now saying he supports Trump's foreign policy, tariffs,
all of it. That is not a statewide Pennsylvania campaign
for a Democrat that is tethered to a Kamala Harris
campaign one and two. Doesn't believe that he's being drugged
down by that campaign, Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
You know who also is doing it now, Tammy Baldwin
in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin, she's got a picture of Donald
Trump right in her latest campaign ad. Folks, well, that's
an indication they're trying to You can cut cut, cut
away a little bit from this.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
You can throw out every poll, every prediction. I haven't
even got into the betting poll at betting markets yet,
but which are looking really the strongest I've seen since
September one for Trump. But you can throw all that away.
The internal polling of statewide Democrat candidates. They well know
where they stand in these elections. They ask the harder questions,
they want to know the truth, and they are losing.

(06:58):
They are losing support by the day. They do dailies.
They don't do weeklies. They're doing daily surveys every single day.
And they are going the wrong direction. And that is
the only reason you'd see them start to tout because
think about it. If Trump is such a threat to democracy,
as they say, why would you, as a Democrat senator
ever tether yourself to such a foe, to such a

(07:19):
dangerous candidate. Why would you be advertising and putting his
face on your ads? That is probably the strongest tell
we have that the Trump's organization, his campaign is as
strong as it's been. He's got incredible momentum. And then
what a fun day on.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now McDonald's, which we'll talk about a little bit later.
But I want to bring this up, Greg because it
follows right in line with what you're doing. Byron York
had a real interesting article today in the Washington Examiner,
and he made this point. As the attacks intensify, Donald
Trump is becoming more popular now. He cites this, and
we'll play a little bit of this audio from Harry Enton.

(07:55):
He is the CNN political analyst talking about the favorable
the favorable ratings for Donald Trump and for Kamala Harris.
Listen to what he said on CNN this morning about
Trump's popularity.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
If you believe that Donald Trump has somehow become less
popular over time. Let me change your mind about that.
In fact, he is more popular at this point in
the campaign than he was at this point in the
twenty twenty campaign or the twenty sixteen campaign. Look, he's
still underwater right with a negative nine point net favorability rating,
but that is higher than he was in twenty twenty
at minus twelve points twenty nearly one. And it is
way higher than the minus twenty seven net favorability back

(08:31):
in twenty sixteen when.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
He did win.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
So I think there's this real question in Kamal Harris's mind,
in the campaign's mind, why is Trump more popular now
than he was at this point in twenty twenty and
twenty sixteen. And I think that is why you're seeing
the sharpening attacks, because they want to put him back
down here or even there's no way that they're necessarily
going to back down to here, but they want to
make Trump more unpopular than his right now, because he's
more popular now than either point in twenty twenty or

(08:53):
twenty sixteen.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
And as Byron York points out, greg this is what
he says, It is entirely possible that the whyldly negative
media coverage is actually causing people to view Trump in
a positive way. He goes on to say, if you
think about it, after all, the media are some of
the least trusted institutions in public, like and if top
media figure say something, millions of people are likely to

(09:17):
think the exact opposites. It's hard to see Trump bashing
as helping Trump, but that may be the case because
everybody except for Fox and Fox Bascism too are bashing
Donald Trump. Did you notice over the weekend. I don't
know if you heard any of Kamala's comments over the weekend.
She's getting shrill. She's starting to scream. I mean talk

(09:38):
about desperate. I mean she is just starting to scream.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Joy is gone?

Speaker 2 (09:44):
Is gone? Vibe.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's what was happening.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
None of that at all.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
By the way, he just sold out that they're going
to do next weekend the Mad Masters Garden three hours,
all sold out and now they're doing big screens outside
New York City so that the people that have oversubscribed
come and watch it. That's a state he's not expected
to win.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right in Manhapular, right in Manhattan. All right, More to
come on the Rotten Greg Show right here on Utah's
talk radio one oh five nine KNRS.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I am hyped, I am ready to go. I'm telling
you I don't want to jinx it. I'm not taking
anything for granted. I know that the silly season is
upon us. Everybody's everybody's got to get involved. I don't
care how much you think he's gonna win by and
how safe you think your state is. Everyone's got to
put their voice out there and everybody's got to vote.
That said, man, I'll tell you what of last three

(10:31):
campaigns that I've watched and been a part of, this
is the one I like the most so far.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
We'll talk about that. But let's let's switch gears for
a little bit. If you recall back in it was
January of this year. As a matter of fact, there
was a lot of applause. Many people were praising Utah
Governor Spencer Cox and state lawmakers for signing into law
HB two sixty one. Now, the bill backers had hoped
that it would ban mandatory DEI statements at state governmentlities,

(11:00):
including our universities. But apparently it is a bit misleading.
Let's find out why. Joining us on our any hour
Newsmaker line is Scott Yenner, state director of State Coalitions
with the Claremont Institute, says that band may be a
little bit misleading. Scott, how are you welcome to the
Roden greg Show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
From me on I'm up here in Idaho, so it's
good to talk to people from Utah.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
What has happened? What has happened, Scott, that you see
we're maybe a little misleading.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Well, at the states where they have actually really done
a good job banning the DEI offices, you see the
former DEI administrators returning to their academic departments or leaving
the university entirely. But at Utah, we counted fifty five
diversity equity inclusion administrators when the band was placed in January,

(11:53):
and thirty six of them are still in there with
new kind of squishy, woke sound titles. You know, they
get rid of the associate dean for equity, diversity inclusion,
and now that person is still a dean, still an
associate dean, but it's for workforce excellence or community belonging

(12:15):
or community engagement. And you know, our guess what we
have learned in other states is that they're doing the
same jobs just under different names, and so it looks
kind of like they haven't really accomplished the goal yet
that they set out for in the law.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
So that's what I was going to ask Scott. Was
it that they didn't want to fire them and put
them out on the unemployment line? So they said, why
don't you work in a more broadly focus and less
focused on diversity, equity and inclusion and just talk about people?
And is it possible that they just got a different
scope of work but they're still there?

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Well, I mean it's possible. I also have this bridge
in Brooklyn for you. Uh, these are professional diversity advocate.
I mean, this is what they do. And you know
they have just made the job sound more general or

(13:14):
use synonyms for you know, diversity, ay inclusion, like inclusive excellence,
and you know this is this is how This was
the first stage that many states went through, and it
was necessary for boards of trustees or for the state
legislature to oversee uh the law to make sure that
the effects that were intended actually go into effect. So

(13:38):
it's going to be necessary I think for the Utah
legislature and the board of trustees at the university. You
taught to ask some really hard questions and see if
they're performing the same functions as such.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Scott, let me ask you, has this affected a number
of the schools up there at the University of Utah
and the Health Department, the Law Department. I mean, is
it affected? Is it all throughout the university?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I mean there's kind of two campuses. The University of
Utah Health, they had thirteen administrators and to twelve of
them are still there, and they all have just different names,
like Associate Dean for EDI as they call them, an
Equity Diversity Inclusion, it just becomes an associate dean or
a dean for EDI becomes the Workforce Excellence teams. But

(14:23):
it's also happening in the law school. It's also happening
in each of the colleges at the University of Utah
and in the Central of Administration at the University of Utah.
So you know, all of the places that they have
banned DEI, they still have the same people, the same
people administering these programs. So either there was never a
problem to begin with, or the problem is still there

(14:47):
and it's going to be necessary for the legislature to
do some oversight. And I think you know, ultimately threaten
the universities with them withholding of money at least up
to an equal to the a salary of the themes
that haven't been replace in order to get the university's detention.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Having been a former lawmaker myself a recovering public servant,
I couldn't agree more with you, Scott. That's exactly where
the accountability will happen, because that's where it actually started.
It was the legislature governor that said to these institutions,
state institutions are higher learning, that this wasn't going to
be if this was what they were going to prioritize
with the dollars, they were going to stare at public
dollars state dollars a little closer, and maybe they don't

(15:29):
get as much because this is they don't want to
throw good money after bad causes. So they said, okay,
we've seen the light. We're going to change. What would
be the most acinct argument we can share with our
lawmakers who listened to this program of the questions they
can ask these schools to really kind of smoke out
the fact that they've they've found workarounds and didn't really

(15:49):
get rid of these programs like they had said they
were going.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
To do well. The model here is Texas. I mean
Texas went as the DEI offices about the same time.
Many of them did the same kind of fake DEI
ban at the university. And there was a senator in Texas,
Senator Creighton, who was a sponsor of the DEI bill
in Texas wrote every university system a strongly worded a

(16:14):
note saying that we're looking at what you're doing, and
we would like you to identify the personnel that we're
involved in DEI and now tell us the ones who
are still on campus, what are they doing now, and
if they're doing anything similar to that, then we will
be implementing the penalties that go along with the DEI then,

(16:39):
and those were like suspending personnel and going after budget.
So it really is necessary to make the university defend
itself against the charges that are you know, I think
quite obvious. And this isn't only at the University of Utah.
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's at the other universities.

(17:00):
YI be finishing up that article, yeah, and we'll have
that published soon.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
All right, Hey, Scott, great work. I appreciate your information.
Thank you, all right, thanks for having me.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Good day.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
All right. That is Scott Yenner. He is the senior
director of State Coalitions at the Claremont Institute. All right,
more coming up on the Roden greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Rady on one oh five to nine
k and r As. I think he did it again today,
Elon Musk gave away another million dollars.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with it for all all
those leftist lonies who want to say he's gambling. He
should be arrested, throwing in jail.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
If you don't know, he said a couple of days ago,
every day he would give a million dollars away to
a lucky person who signed his petition supporting the First
and second Amendment, free speech. Registered to vote, Yeah, registered
to vote, registered to vote. You signed that petition, and
he'll give people a million dollars randomly. Well, a third

(17:56):
person today got that million dollars.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
I mean, seems to his word. He's doing this till
election day.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Here's the thing that I like about it is that
everywhere all the left is losing their minds. But you know, Zuckerberg,
zucker Bucks, that was secret money. Four hundred plus million
into the deepest most Democrat precincts to get out the vote. Specifically,
nobody now when when Elon Muster does, he has no
idea how they're going to vote other than for free
speech and registering to vote, to make sure they are

(18:25):
registered voters and getting involved. So anyway, I love it.
I think the guy's a genius alien.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Another note I sent you for the weekend, how Kamala
went ballistic after she missed the Al Smith dinner. Apparently
she just ripped oh staff. I mean, she was so angry.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Her staff of a bunch of snowflakes, thought that she
would offend her pro abortion and her LGBT voter base
if she's joining up with the Catholics, those dirty Catholics, awful,
And so she boycotts it so she has have any religion,
that religion splash on her, you know, doesn't want to
any of that. And then that roasted. She got absolutely roasted,

(19:07):
you know, because her you know, her campaign managers or
consultants are so in their own little bubble. They have
no idea the tradition and the president of all candidates
from either party enjoying that evening and having fun, making
jokes and she looked, She looked as she deserved to
look terrible, and now she's met. She's blaming her campaign manager. Well,
how come she didn't have the good sense? Has she

(19:29):
not been paying attention? I could have told you Al
Smith dinners when you got to be at.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
You gotta show up. The other the other story surfacing
over the weekend, Greg, apparently her campaign in Pennsylvania is
in total disarray. Oh, I mean they got people showing
up saying what do we do? And they have no
I mean they are in trouble in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Just the timing of the infighting were being reported shows
you they're in trouble because usually this is after they lose.
Doing it in the last two weeks before the election,
and you're already turning on each other and thrown each
other under bus. This is not a good sign, not
a good tell.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Well, yes, if you're watching, Yeah, so you've got trouble
in Pennsylvania. You've got her staff up, or she upset
ed her staff for not sending her to the Al
Smith dinner. You know, she offended apparently Christians again today
or yesterday at that black church in Atlanta. But when
they showed up and said, why did you cuss somebody
for saying Jesus is the Lord or something?

Speaker 1 (20:21):
And they had them removed, they had from their own.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Church, from their own church for asking those questions. All right,
A lot more to come. Our number two Rod I
Greg with you on talk radio one oh five nine,
kayn Ars, and it's great to be with you. I
hope you had a great weekend and we're headed we're
down to fourteen about fourteen and a third days.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
That would you like that?

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Do you want the Are you gonna give me? You
don't give me the exact time?

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Will I will your day?

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Would you second? Sure? Sure?

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well I will tell you it is. It is fifteen days,
seven hours, fifty four minutes and twenty seven seconds.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
You're good. Yeah you figured that out.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Just roughly, yeah, just just you know, spitballing it. Fifteen days,
seven hours, fifty four minutes now sixteen second yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, well you name it. And it's been like this
for quite some time now. Greg, as you well know,
the two top issues I think for voters in this
campaign is the economy, inflation however you want to characterize it,
and illegal immigration. Now, Donald Trump has said if he
is elected he will launch a mass deportation program, but

(21:31):
can it be done and how will it be done?

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Well?

Speaker 2 (21:33):
Joining us on our Newsmaker line is uh Anajerraatelli. She
is a homeland security reporter the Washington Examiner. She has
done a great job in covering this whole issue about
illegal immigration. She's joining us on our Newsmaker line Round now, Anna,
how are you welcome back to the Roden greg Show.
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 7 (21:51):
Hi, guys, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
All right? You right about some of the challenges that
Donald Trump would face if he were elected president on
a man as deportation plan. What did you find out, Hannah.

Speaker 7 (22:04):
Yeah, so there's there's you know, the odds are really
stocked against him. In twenty nineteen, when Trump was president,
he tried a similar a policy change right to be
able to remove people from the country quickly without holding
court essentially, and that got blocked. So, you know, aside
from the policy or the lawsuits he would face, there's

(22:27):
also a logistics issue. Ice officers who were responsible for
arresting people within the country and then removing them. There's
only six thousand of those officers, and so Trump could
use the military. Another legal issue there's family separations. A
recent report by the Center for Migration Studies found that

(22:49):
five and a half million children who are US citizens
would lose a parent if Trump went after everyone in
the country who has a parent who is not a
you know, a good legal standing to be in the country.
And so there's also the economic side of things. How
you know, we'removing people who do you know millions of
jobs in the country is going to affect Americans and

(23:13):
the US standing in the world. So certainly there was
not a shortage of impact and you know things that
you would expect the Trump campaign to be considering how
to counter those if they do implement this plan.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
So let me let me just so this is what
I've concerned. Then what because you have you have money
for housing, you have money for uh food, you have
you have schools that are packed where schools did not
have the infrastructure to handle this. And we see this
here in our state of Utah. This isn't just an Aurora,
Colorado or a Springfield. You have hundreds of millions of

(23:50):
dollars going to Ukraine. You have I mean, you have
a border policy that is allowing people to come in
that prior to this administration. They there, their cases had
to be adjudicated prior to coming in. You can't that
can be stopped right away without being a prohibitive cost. However,
we can't just shrug our shoulders and say, well, we
have five thousand agents. I guess everybody's going to be
fine here. And the other thing is I just reject

(24:13):
the family separation narrative when the Inspector General for whom
Land Security has identified I don't know how many of
these children that came across on a company that they
have no idea where they are. There is so much
carnage and so much going on. I just there has
to be with all that we're spending at this issue
right now, with the chaos, being able to redirect that

(24:35):
in a way to really get the ones that are
dangerous to criminals and locating these children that are missing.
There has to be a way, isn't there.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
It's up to Congress to what it's going to spend
the money on. Until Congress, you know, funds more than
six thousand ICE officers, which I s is twenty thousand employees,
when only six thousand focus on arresting and deportation. Until
Congress funds more than thirty five forty thousand tension beds
nationwide until all these things change. And let me just

(25:09):
be clear, people have been caught and released at the
border under Trump, well over half a million people under Obama,
under Bush. The issue we see now is compared to
twenty years ago. We have people coming from We've always
seen people from all over the world one hundred and
fifty countries a year apprehended at the southern border, but
now we're seeing you know, ten twenty fifty times as

(25:32):
many Venezuela They used to be a couple thousand in
a year. Now we're seeing around I think we've seen
two hundred thousand, and so that includes ways that they're
bringing people in. But you know, at the end of
the day, it's a hard thing to track to say, Okay,
here's the total costs. And let's say Denver on you know,

(25:56):
enrolling children who came over the border in schools and
all these things, and it's almost works to the benefit,
I would say against Republicans and conservatives because you know
it's impacting you, but you don't know the exact impact
on your wallet, and so there's no way to say,

(26:18):
and you can't profile people and say, well, you know
this many you know, my community seems to be changing.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Yeah, let me ask you this, Anna. The public seems
to support this idea of some sort of mass deportation.
What it looks like we do not know, but I've
seen survey showing as many as sixty nine percent of
the American people want to have something done. Is there
a way do you think that Donald Trump can find
that will lead to some sort of deportation against people,

(26:48):
maybe even just those who have criminal records before they
came into the country. I mean, is there a way
to do maybe not all of this, but at least
some of this.

Speaker 7 (26:57):
Yeah, Rod, I think that's been the focus. That's what
Trump advance of each said different numbers, but saying that
we're going to start with either five hundred thousand or
a million people who have criminal histories and are in
the country illegally. And to tell you the truth, it's
not different than Obama.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
And I don't believe that it's just not true. What
you're saying is not true. You've got two hundred and
ninety thousand I'm looking it up right now, two hundred
ninety thousand children that were on a company that came
to this border during the Biden administration that the Inspector
General for the Department of Homeland Security they have no
trace of. You tell me that there's a time, just
like in past administrations, that there's two hundred ninety thousand

(27:37):
children missing and we don't sorry, we don't have the money.
This administration didn't need the permission of Congress to ignore
the laws that allowed this to occur, but we need
the permission of Congress to try to correct it. There
is no moral equivalency or administrative equivalency to how these
past administrations, including the Obama administration, has handled this border

(27:57):
the way that Biden Harris when I'm shocked to hear
you try to say, this is just normal, this is
every day, this is what.

Speaker 8 (28:03):
They all do.

Speaker 7 (28:04):
We're talking about children, and I was trying to answer
Rod's question about the country.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
It's general, we can't go after.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
Well, I'm not saying general. Okay. I've covered policy every
single day for seven years on immigration policy, been to
the border sixty times. What I have seen is that
there are too many people for the government to decide
to do.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
Something all at once.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Each administration, particularly the Biden and the Obama administrations have
said to Ice, please prioritize people who have the worst
criminal records, and even doing so, they're not able to
remove everyone who has a serious criminal record. And so
what the Trump advanced campaign is saying, We're going to

(28:49):
focus early on on the five hundred thousand to a
million people who we believe have serious criminal records and
are in a country illegally. And so that is what
they have disclosed they're going to do. Then they believe
other people based on economic changes, maybe they implement everify nationwide,
maybe they're required of businesses. It will prompt people to

(29:12):
self deport.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Well, but do we have any evidence they will even
do that.

Speaker 7 (29:21):
On the second part, you know, it's I think it
might be a little disappointing to Republicans if you rely
on that for people to self deport and it doesn't happen.
And you know, in four years from now, if Trump
does win the office, you still have a large illegal
immigrant population in the country. I think there could be
some blowback for Trump with good reason. He promised he

(29:42):
would build the wall, and you can blame it on
Democrats for not funding it, but they didn't put up
more than two miles a wall twenty months into the administration,
and so they got a late start on that, and
I think this time around they're really focusing on you know,
this is our second try, our second chance. We need
to get things ready, step and going, and so I

(30:02):
would really expect to see a strong start, especially on
the immigration front, with getting border wall construction up and going,
getting ice, you know, even staffed, getting the military ready,
if that's how they're going to go about it, you know,
because they've learned from the past.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
I'm sorry, I don't mean to interrupt you here without
even the military. If you just made the illegal entry
of this country into a criminal offense instead of a
civil defense, do you know many county sheriffs jails can't
hold people who've broken the lot and coming here illegally,
even with a criminal record, unless they've committed a crime
in real time in their own county. But they don't
have facilities for civil detention. And this is an administrative decision.

(30:40):
Those are civil detentions that need special accommodations because it's
not criminal. If you just changed it to an illegal
not a civil, but a criminal offense to come over
this border, you wouldn't need a military You've got plenty
of county sheriffs in this country that would hold until
ice can get them and hold them criminally if they've committed,
if they've broken the law of entering this country illegally,

(31:01):
but just calling it civil has taken all of our infrastructure,
of our of our jails in all the counties in
America and taking them out of this equation that doesn't
require the military to do something proactive and finding these
most dangerous people and holding them criminally for crossing the
border in addition to whatever crimes other crimes they've committed.
I think you can do that without having to It

(31:23):
sounds very draconian to say we've got to launch the
military inside of our own country. But you got county
sheriffs that feel like their hands are tied.

Speaker 7 (31:32):
Well, you know, it's unlikely to happen under Kamala Harris
if she's elected. I can certainly, I think we can.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
I agree with you there, don't do that happening.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Yeah, all right, Anna, thank you. We appreciate your time
today here on the Rod and Greg Show in Utah's
Talk Radio one oh five nine. Can or rest all right?
More coming up on talk Radio one o five nine knrs.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
I want to be more professional. Well you're professional, okay,
you're the boss. You know, you know, you know, you know,
are very good questions and that's what we do on
Thank you, Thank you, Rod, Thank you. I was feeling
like I.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Won't be the first.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, I just had.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
All the time. We had a few out there that
will never come on, Specier Cox, who will come on
this show, Matt Roalney and that's.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Okay, yeah some of them. You know, I'm fine with that.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
This is our show, not their show.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
I say the name Rod and Greg, so it doesn't there.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I was trying to. I was just trying, but I
kept hearing to say so folks in that interview and
the part that I just had to jump in, and
I didn't want to be I didn't want to interrupt.
But there is a premise that I heard more than
once that this administration's approach and administration of our illegal
immigrations and illegal crossings looks very similar or is the

(32:53):
same as past administrations.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
That's not the case.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
That is not true. And I heard her say it,
and I wanted to, but she just kept going back
to this and you know, and the idea that well,
there's not a whole lot you can do if Congress
doesn't give you the permission. Well, there seems about a
whole heck of a lot that Biden Harris have been
able to do without Congressional permission. And exactly, and I'm
telling you, just small things like the administration calling it

(33:17):
a criminal act to come across the country illegally would
change the face of detention of those people, of people
that have illegal aliens, who've broken law with a criminal record.
Maybe the challenge that sheriffs get into is if you
haven't committed a crime in their county, they don't have
any reason to hold you. But if you illegally crossed,
and then they are able to check you because you've

(33:37):
illegally crossed and you have a criminal record, they could
they could hold you if it wasn't a civil detention.
Right now, Obama administration, you know what a civil detention means.
You get to come and go where you want, becas
many calls you went, You get special shampoo, you shouldn't
have to see any of the haircuts. You don't have
to your eyes don't have to gaze upon a prisoner.
Jails aren't designed this way. Jails don't have ingrid us

(34:00):
and egress for civil detainees different than the population at
a jail.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, what if they did make it a criminal offense? Yes,
that you're you were saying, we need to do Yes,
two questions. Would Congress have to approve it?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Nope? Really nope, As far as I understand, that's a
that's an administrative decision.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Are County jail is big enough to handle.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
Not every single one, but the ones that are dangerous? Yeah,
because as soon as they are able to run, they
so if they're not so if they if they run someone,
they they come across someone and they're able to do
the backgrounds or whatever they do. And you know how,
even if you jaywalk, you got to give a police
officer your idea. It feels like, so if they're to
look up someone or find out who they are, and
they see that they that they're not here, legally, they

(34:43):
can detain them, and they can hold them if it's
an illegal detention because it's a crime until my ICE
is notified, and then ICE can look and see if
they're of a high urgency and they're dangerous and they
came across and need to be removed, there's a lot
you can use with your infrastructure of doually elected sheriffs
in this country in states that are not sanctuary states.

(35:04):
And just because sheriffs aren't doing the civil detention, it's
because in those contracts that Biden has done specifically, this
wasn't the way that Trump did it. They have seven
hundred page contracts that allow ACLU to come and inspect
your jail anytime without notice. That again, you have to
have certain entrances and exits out of the jail where
they don't have to see prisoners. They there's no other

(35:26):
there's no other people they would contract to hold that'd
be like that. They can contract the US marshals. They
can be treated like a criminal or like a detainee,
like for a criminal offense, just like anybody else. They
contract with states, even federal marshals. But this ice thing
is its own creature. A civil detention doesn't fit and

(35:46):
that's why they can't do it. And it's a it's
a scam, it's an absolute scam. And it doesn't take
the military rolling tanks down our main streets as I
heard described to do it. So anyway, so anyway, I
just had to I had to jump in there and
just kind of get that off my chest. And then
she went to the civil detention part two. Well, I
think what we need to or no, the children ripping

(36:08):
children away from their parents.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I want to hear from our listeners today and this
whole question of a mass deportation plan, because, as I've
brought up several times, poles show that the American people
like the idea. Now what does it all mean? What
kind of mass deportation are we talking about? We'd like
to get your thoughts eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero, or on your cell phone dial

(36:31):
pound two fifty. We'll get to your calls and comments
coming up right here on the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Now let's see her, folks move along. I oh, don't
you want to take away those poor kids from their families?
Give me a break.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Meanwhile, sixty nine percent of the American people want to
see a mass deportation.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Yeah, come on, come over here. We have it in
here in Utah. We'll show you the social cost. We
can do it. We can count it to the dollar.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
All right, let's go to the phones. Eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero or on your cell
phone dial pound two fifty and say hey, Rod, let's
go to the phones.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
So let's go to John and Ogden. John, thank you
for calling the Rotten Greg Show. What say you, sir?

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 9 (37:07):
And yes, absolutely we need a mass deportation.

Speaker 5 (37:10):
UH.

Speaker 9 (37:11):
If you come into this country illegally, you need to
be supported.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
Period. You can't go into any other country and expect.

Speaker 9 (37:17):
To be able to stay in their country. They'll they'll
deport your worse. This is a this is a mess
and a disaster by Obama administration and now the Biden
Herrits Uh administration, and they've destroyed our country through this
illegal immigration. It's a cation that's billions of dollars here.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yes, the true is John, You're one hundred percent right,
and we have to have that level of intolerance for
anything that's that the law has been broken to such
a degree that we're every state's of border state. We
just have to have that mindset.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
In Sandy, we're talking to Tim tonight here on the
Roden Greg Show. Tim, how are you?

Speaker 5 (37:54):
Oh, I'm doing great. Hey, thanks for taking my call.
And I want to thank great UH for his stand
with her. I mean, that was right on point, and
I'm glad to see somebody would take that attitude because
you're guy says, well, she is this reporter. I don't care.
The reporters are enabling these people to do it by

(38:15):
making excuses for him.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
And he didn't take it.

Speaker 5 (38:18):
And I'm proud to listen to it.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Tim.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Thank you, brother, Thank you. I appreciate that. You never know,
you never know, you know. Let's go to Larry and
is it Hyland. Let's go to Larry and Hyland. Larry,
Welcome to the Ron and Greg Show.

Speaker 10 (38:33):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. Guys, Greg, Yes, I
applaud you for putting that lady in her place. That
just kicked me off so bad. There's a gentleman that
Glenn Beck had on his program about five or six
months ago, and in the Trump administration, that is going
to be his job. And they asked him how he
was going to do that, and he said, the law

(38:54):
enforcement throughout the country knows where all these criminals are,
and all they got to do is pick them up.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
That's right there. They cannot do it at the moment,
and they need a president that can will work with
them to help them get to that You're exactly right.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
Larry, exactly exactly, and this country's gone to pot So
it just ticks me off.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
All right, Larry, thank you. You get a sense of
anger among people out there about this whole immigration well,
I mean everyone is affected by it. Everybody is upset
by it because nobody is doing anything about it. Greg,
They're just letting it run. And now we see there's
another two thousand. There's another migration wave coming from southern
Mexico making this way up to the American border. Two

(39:38):
thousand people are in this caravan.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
And if the premise of our guest was true, well,
you can't do anything about it. You don't have enough.
You can't you can't do it. You don't have a budget.
Congress hasn't given me your permission. Nothing you can do. Well,
then new there be more than two thousand, because you can.
Biden'll let you right across. And then I guess we can't.
We're just powerless and we're gonna have to watch this.
I get frustrat I'm I started to show it's super

(40:01):
excited about this election.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Now I'm all on tilt. We Americans we don't like
to hear we can't now because we can't. We can
take care of this. Let's go to Daniel in Harriman
tonight here on the Rodden Greg Show. Daniel, how are you?
Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'd just like to
bring up the fact that you know, first and foremost,
Utah is a sanctuary state. You know, it's just in
the shadows thanks to Governor Cox and all these other
traitorous Rhino Republicans we have run in the Utah GOP.
And as far as the discussion about mass deportations, I mean,

(40:42):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
I mean, I just think it needs to be done
in a humane way.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Sure, Joe.

Speaker 6 (40:47):
Let's just I'd just like to remind my utahns that
tolerance is not a Christian virtue and it can be done.
I mean, law enforce, they can do it. If we're shortened, officers,
deputize people. You know, let's use surveillance state like the NSA.
Let's use this database. Let's round them all up and
get them out.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:05):
I'm all for it.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Yeah, and I think a lot of Americans are. Danie'll
thank you for your phone call. Call eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero on your cell phone
dial pound two fifty and say, hey, Rod.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
We still have time for some more calls. Let's go
to Steve and Layton. Steve, thank you for holding and
thank you for calling the Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. Last week, Clay and
Buck did a little thing where they named all the
presidents from Eisenhower to Trump and the number of deportations
they did in their turn. Guests who deported more than
anybody else?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Who?

Speaker 8 (41:40):
Bill Clinton?

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Really?

Speaker 11 (41:42):
Clinton?

Speaker 8 (41:43):
Twelve twelve point five million deportations?

Speaker 12 (41:48):
You know that?

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Actually, you know why that doesn't heard that? You know
why that doesn't surprise me, because I've seen there's a
clip of his State of the Union address. Oh yeah,
and as I think it's after the Republicans took over
the Congress for the first time in forty years, and
he is tough on illegal immigration. He says it's displacing
our jobs. He goes right after after it. So I
do believe that that the Clinton administration was zeroed in

(42:10):
on this issue way back in the early nineties.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Well, I've heard that before. It as a matter of fact,
we have time during Yeah, go ahead, Steve, I'm sorry, go.

Speaker 6 (42:16):
Ahead, Yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 8 (42:18):
And I think they said Obama did eight eight billion. Wow, wow,
deport eight billion deportations?

Speaker 2 (42:25):
How many of the Biden Harrison how many of the
Biden and Harris administration done, Steve.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
They didn't say anything about that, but they said that
Trump only did nine hundred and sixty seven thousand.

Speaker 1 (42:39):
Look, is this the thing is that they because he.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Was as many in, they can't get reported.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Exactly, they can't come in, you can't get deported. That's right.
Let's go to Roger and Murray tonight here on the
Rod and Gregg Show. Hi, Roger, how are you?

Speaker 9 (42:56):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (42:57):
We're doing well? Thank you?

Speaker 11 (43:00):
Yeah. Greg doesn't need to feel bad at all about
calling someone out that is seeing us a bunch of
both bs. I'm bs is just a nice way of
saying you're a liar. So if someone's a liar, call
it that.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Thank you, Rogers, thank you. I did not find her
her observations to be factual, truly. I did not find
him to be factual at all. And she said she's
been to the border sixty times. What's she looking at?
Because I'm telling you right now, the situation is not
as she is describing.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
You don't feel bad about what you did.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Well, I didn't want to disappoint you. I don't know you.
You're very you're very diplomatic, and I didn't and this
isn't this isn't your brand to do that. So I
just didn't want to. That's why you're here. Okay, now
you understand your role. Okay, you should have told me that.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Oh gosh, I know. All right. More coming up Rod
and Gregg right here on Utah's Talk Radio one O
five nine. Kayn r s, I guess he reported, what
do you say? Twelve point four million, fourteen point four
like that? Twelve point five nine, Well, and he referenced
he had stated the Union address back in nineteen ninety
five where he talked about illegal immigration. Before we go

(44:10):
to ourn nex color. It's just a short portion of this.

Speaker 12 (44:12):
All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected,
but in every place in this country, are rightly disturbed
by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country.
The jobs they hold might otherwise be held by citizens
or legal immigrants, the public service they use imposed burdens
on our taxpayers. That's why our administration has moved aggressively

(44:35):
to secure our borders more by hiring a record number
of new border guards, by deporting twice as many criminal
aliens as ever before, by cracking down on illegal hiring,
by barring welfare benefits to illegal aliens. And the budget
I will present to you, we will try to do
more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are
arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal aliens in the

(44:57):
workface as recommended by the commiss headed by a former
Congresswoman Barbara Jordan.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
As Bill Clinton nearly twenty years ago talking about illegal immigration,
and he mentioned deportation a key part of the plan
that he presented to the American people back then. All right,
let's go to the phones. Let's start with Dean in
Bountiful tonight here on the Rodden great show. Hi Dean,
how are you?

Speaker 13 (45:21):
Andrew?

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Verywell?

Speaker 14 (45:22):
Hey, the guys, that your plan, if you'll look at
the Cruise Romni plan where you go and register people
through workforce services. Whenever you do a comprehensive check like this,
you're always going to use the irs, and you're always
going to use businesses. And when every business is required,
everybody's got to register through Department of Workforce Services. That's

(45:45):
proof of citizenship is required. Now there's all obviously phases
that you're going to go through, getting rid of you know,
violent crimes from those people arrested. And then and then
with this plan, you've you've and we're through self deform, deportation.
Tell people don't I don't care when you came in.

(46:06):
If you deport now, your name is going to be
on that list, and everybody else deported after you it
is on that list as well. But you let people
self deport. But the whole impetus of this plan is
if you come to get a job, all jobs have
to go through the popitent of Workforce Services. You're going
to eventually go home because you're not going to be

(46:27):
able to get a job.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
It's it's really smart. So we called.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
Verified, but is what he's talking about is that that
was our state version.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
It was working phenomenally well, and then a few years
ago the legislature pulled it back and exempted out at
large or smaller companies or employees of I don't know,
less than one hundred employees, which is most of our
small businesses in Utah. It really stripped down the severified
law that was working well and preventing identity theft in
addition to making it harder for illegal aliens to be

(46:57):
able to find employment here.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Member of Commerce for there is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
In fact, I just think if you ever hear someone
say they're a Republican, they're so called conservative, but they're saying, hey,
don't open borders. There's nothing you can do about it.
You're looking at You're looking at a chamber of commerce
angle where they want cheap under market labor.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
And there are farmers out there who not want that
help as well. Greg, I mean they do want that
help to that.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
I say we we we should have an absolute there
should be a way to have.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Help that come. There should be doctor all right. We
want more calls on this or we want to hear
from you more here on the mass portation plan. He
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Speaker 1 (47:47):
So let's go to our car. There is a pause.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Do you like to introduce yourself?

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Oh, I'm a citizen, Greg Hughes.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Thank you very much. I've calmed you down a little bit.
You're okay.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
I'm fine. Look I said you're cool. I'm cool. If
you're cool, I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I don't regret anything I said. I just don't want it.
I just don't want you to feel like I'm I
went a little too far or you know, we did
invite her to come on the show. I didn't, but
we invite on the show, and I didn't know that,
you know. So I was just wanting to make sure
I'm a new kid on the block.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
This is this is the only station where something like
this would happen in Salt Lake City. Is just what
we want. There are others here. You're going to get it.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
I appreciate that. I do. I appreciate it. And so
let's listen.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I love.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
So far the listeners have been totally fine. So let's
go to Ray in Springvale. Ray, thank you for calling
the Rod and Greg Show, and thank you for holding sir.

Speaker 13 (48:44):
Oh yes, well, I've got two solutions that I figure
they'll work. The first one is any time in illegal
or legal alien comes in, they have to serve a
minimum of twelve years in the military on the front line,
not the Navy. Both either the Marines or the army.

(49:05):
The second thing is if they can't serve two their
children have to serve eight years each and none of
them can retire, nor can they vote. The second thing,
or third thing, is when somebody's convicted of murder, why
bother three months later we execute him?

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Well after a.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
While, yeah, yeah, you know, the death penalty thing. I'm
in favor of. The death penalty always happened, But the
problem is the delays. The delays. Remember one time, Greg,
there was I think it was in California, they tried
to do a kind of a three strikes year out thing.
You'd have three appeals. After the third appeal failed, you
would be put to death. It didn't pass, but there

(49:46):
was an effort in California to change it. I wish
we would change it here in the state of Utah,
but the Supreme Court just keeps on getting in the way.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Yeah, I look. I think that he brings up a
good point. You want to come into country illegally, you
want to stay after your and caught, you earn your
keep twelve years in the military, and if you're too
old to serve, then you get a kid, you put
them up and then all of a sudden, I think
people sober up about this open border. We can't have
an open border first, and folks, we have a great
interview coming up in this hour. I think it's in

(50:16):
the next segment where we're going to talk to Jeffrey
Anderson front he's president of the American Main Street Initiative
about this border issue, and you're going to hear a
very different discussion I think about the border, it's problems,
and how uniquely it is as bad as it has
ever been. We have never seen what we're seeing right now,
and I think it's a little more accurate depiction of
what we're confronting in real time.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Well, he's going to talk about how the Biden administration
massages the numbers and changes the numbers. He calls it
the bait and switch border dance, and that's basically what
they're doing. But right now we're taking your calls because
we had quite a discussion in the last hour about
mass deportation. I've mentioned this before public. You know, the
surveys out there show the public wants some sort of

(50:58):
mass deportation. Bill Clinton, in a State of the Union
addressed Greg in nineteen ninety five talk about we've got
to get rid of the criminals. We need everify. You know,
there are things that this country and this was a
Democrat almost twenty years ago, greg mapping out plans to
deal with border, the border crisis, and now we don't
have a border anymore. I think we have an open border,

(51:21):
you know, bless the border patrol, the sheriffs down there.
The people are putting up with this crap yep. But
nothing and they don't have Nothing is being done. They
don't have support from this administration.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
I think you've seen people leave the profession entirely. If
Kamala Harris gets elected, I think there's people in that
job that would realize that their job's gone. They're not
able to do their job. They become transportation modes for
people to come illegally, which isn't what they it's not
what they're there for.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
In the border patrol. Over the weekend, Greg or some
members of the Border patrol say, if kama is elected,
we're done.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Yeah, I do. They're going to quit, and I think
that they'd be well within their right because not allowed
to do their job, I don't know how you can
have a job. It's like being a security guard. And
having to let everybody pass you. You don't get to
secure anything. It's come on, you can't do it. Got
a great text from a or communication from a listener
saying that when we mentioned this the state legislature, it
did it exempted businesses that have one hundred and fifty

(52:18):
employees or less from having to use everify to determine
that their employees are legal residents of this of this
here in the United States, well, that's most most businesses
are one hundred and fifty employees or less. So you
basically they wiped it out. And that was a program
that was working quite well in the state of Utah
on a bunch of different fronts. And so it's things

(52:38):
like that that on our state level, but also federally
we have got to get serious about and we cannot.
If we hear anyone say sorry, there's nothing you can
do cost too much, it's no, that is not an
acceptable answer. We are living through too difficult of a
time with the public safety, with the school, impact on
our school's jobs, housing, you name it. This cannot stay

(53:01):
the way it is.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Well, there was another story out there today. I think
we have yet another town in this country, as I
recall I think it was in Indiana, Greg, But the
migrant crisis and their town's populations like double or triple
with migrants, and they're trying to deal with this. Their
schools can handle it, their courts can handle it, their
police can't handle it. And this just now. These are migrants.

(53:23):
These are not illegal aliens. They're migrants who were allowed
into this country. But you know you're right, Greg, somebody
soon I go back to what I argue about this election,
and I've said we want politicians who will get in
there and get something done. And number one issue is
figure out this immigration issue that we have in this
country today. It's complex, but I don't think it's as

(53:45):
complex as everyone likes to make and you know, as simple.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
I just listen closely on this interview. We're going to
have this interview because here's what here's the little wordsmithing
that's going on. And they did this to jd Vance
during the debate. They're here legally. No, this administration took
illegal entry and called it legal. Okay, in contrary to
the law. Just said it's legal. Now we're going to
let you say the word asylum, and then you can

(54:09):
just everyone and anyone can just come across without without pause.
That was never the law. That's never been the way,
and it's frankly already been tried reviewed by the US
Supreme Court. You have to you have to uniformly apply
the law. And just saying the word asylum does not
mean you get to walk in here and have a
date a court date in three to five years. And

(54:30):
that's honestly how long it takes for them to adjudicate.
Three to five years. Give me. They're never shown up
for any of those court dates. So that is they
can say that's legal, that is legal with this particular administration.
And by the way, is it any wonder why Kamala
Harris the borders are is down by two points nationally
when there hasn't been a Democrat running against Trump that

(54:51):
didn't look like they were way ahead without the shy
Trump vote showing itself. This has to be one of
the most wildly unpopular candidates they've made their nominee. And
you know she didn't have to run for a primary.
Good thing, because I don't know that she'd have made
it through a primary. Yeah, if they had a primary
for that nomination, what are the questions.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Greg and you may know this, I kind of have
a sense of it. When you declare asylum, what do
you have to say asylum? Is that it? I mean,
do you have to say my life's in danger economically,
I can't make it, or you just say I want asylum.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I'm here for asylum, i'd say.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
And then if you go before an immigration judge, what
does the judge determine?

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Well, when you get that court dated is literally years away.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
If you ever get in front.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Of a judge, that's when they would take a deeper
look into your circumstances and whether you're in a country.
That's they don't even determine that when you say the
word asylum, they'll just take you from anywhere in any
I mean, it's there is no bar. They have signs
rod when you get into these port of entries, because
you have to do it through a port of entry,
they give the signs that are meant to say if

(55:55):
you're feel intimidated, you don't have to feel They basically
give you the instructions on how to get through without pause.
And that is to say, I feel intimidated. I feel
I feel like I'm just here to say asylum. And
they said we will if you feel intimidated, we have
to let your right through. They basically tell them. They
give an instruction manual at the point of entries on
how to get through without any scrutiny.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
All right, but now let's say two or three years later,
you show up in an asylum hearing, what kind of
case is presented and by whom to prove you don't
deserve asylum. You've got to go back to your home country.
Who does that? Is it the federal government? Is it
local government? Who's doing that?

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So I've spoken to people, people that work at ICE.
I've spoken to the people there, and those that are
retired careers are nice. Most of those If if the
person shows and they actually go through the hearing, very
few get to stay, very really really, so they're gone.
They don't get to stay. They never meet the measure

(56:54):
once they go through the whole hearing. It's why they
don't come back. It's why they don't appear when their
court date comes. That's why they're never going to show
up for it, because they actually don't qualify. Yeah, and so,
but even those that do, that's even a small percentage
that actually get to stay. That's what I'm told from
the retired ICE guy that I spoke with and others,

(57:14):
and I said that if you get to the adjudicated part,
that is that's a higher standard.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
So most cases are kicked out and you're headed back
to your own guns.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
That's why the law up until this administration was they
detain them until they're able to be adjudicated. And uh,
and they're saying, well, we don't have enough room to
detain them. They'll then wait in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
And that's what Trump did.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
And that's what Trump did. You'll wait in Mexico. And
guess what that has. That has an incredible chilling effect
on the fake asylum say the word I feel afraid,
let me through argument. It doesn't happen when you wait
in Mexico to have your case adjudicated, or you're detained and.

Speaker 2 (57:50):
You're probably going to go home. After city in Mexico,
you'll probably go home.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
You will. It didn't And so again, I I just
think it's I'm really looking forward to this next interview
we're having because we're going to get down to the
nitty gritty and we're going to show you why this
is not like past administrations and how they've you know,
how they've handled immigration.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
All right, that's coming up on the Rod and Greg
Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n RS. A couple of reminders two weeks
from tonight. Greg, it's always fun to do. We call
it the I have to add your name into this,
the Rod and Gregg's Minute to win it.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
How do you sound so belabored? Reason I got your name.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Well because I have to change everything. Well, it is
it is.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
You know, it's a lot more syllables when we have
to add my name. I get it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Great, you know right? Well what that is? And Greg,
what we do is we open up the phones to
any political candidate out there and we give them one minute. Greg,
just one minute, because he Rai's ready with the button,
the buzzer, and we'll give you one minute to make
an appeal to voters.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
So the Monday monfre.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
The sailor, Now, could you do that in one minute?
Make an appeal?

Speaker 1 (59:01):
I don't mean to say my name in sixty seconds.

Speaker 2 (59:03):
That would be doomed.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
That's probably why I never called the minute to When
it's like minute, that's a that's a trap. That's like
debates when they say, solve the world problems in one minute.

Speaker 14 (59:13):
Go.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Yeah. So, you candidates who are listening right now, or
if you have a friend or a relative who's running
for any political office here in the state, will give
you one minute to make a final appeal to voters.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
And I'm going to tell you this group, this listening audience,
this is your gatekeepers.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Folks.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
If you're running for higher office and you're listening to
this show right now, then you also are running as
a conservative Republican and you need this audience's support. This
audience is the gatekeeper for good.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Public officials elected officials, So that'd mean fun.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
Monday evening, November fourth, the entire hour and six pm,
Rod and Gregg's minute in two weeks right, two weeks now,
the Biden administration, of course, we've been talking a lot
about immigration today, mass deportations today. Well, the administration is
now apparently using some misleading statistics and rhetoric to hide
what is going on with illegal immigration and the migrant crisis.

(01:00:07):
Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
that is Jeff Anderson. He as president of the American
Main Street Initiative. Jeff, thanks for joining us. Tonight. What
kind of border bait and switch is a Biden administration doing.

Speaker 15 (01:00:18):
Jeff, Well, they're trying very hard to make it seem
like they've got the border problem under control, when in reality,
it just the crisis is continuing. Tim Walla said in
the vice presidential debate a few weeks ago, the border
crossings were down compared to when Trump was in office,
which is just wildly off, unless unless you don't want
to count people who cross the border at ports of

(01:00:41):
entry because they're just let in by the Biden administration. Basically,
the Biden administration is trying to me it used to
be when people got to the border, they wanted to
get across, they had to evade the authorities and run
across the border. One of the Biden administrations, people pretty
much just have to walk up to a border official
and say the magic word asylum and they'll get let in.

(01:01:02):
And of late the Biden administration has been saying we
don't want you to come to the long expanses across
the border. We want you to show up at the
ports of entry and come in there. And they've even
been letting illegal aliens schedule their illegal entries by using
this CBP one app that the Biden administration has provided

(01:01:23):
to say we're going to come to the port of
entry at this given time, and the Biden administration, in
ninety six percent of cases has let them into the
United States.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So I think that your article does a great job
of describing. Well, if you take something illegal and call
it legal, then I guess certainly the illegal entry goes
down because you're letting it. And what that reminds me
of is that you have some of these crazy prosecutors
in large metropolitan areas that have said you can steal
up to one thousand dollars, shoplift up to one thousand
dollars and we're not going to charge it, and after

(01:01:53):
that then we will. Well that might allow someone to
say shoplifting crimes have gone down, but to the shop owner,
they're out of business because up to one thousand dollars
of their stuff every single day by different people, is
getting stolen. So is that a fair comparison that we're
seeing people coming in just uttering the word asylum, who otherwise,

(01:02:14):
under any president, Republican or Democrat, that would not have
been good enough to be accommodated, allowed in and even
transported across the country. Is that an accurate maybe summation.

Speaker 15 (01:02:25):
Yeah, Greg, I think it is. I think people have
failed to realize that the fundamental different thing that's happened
under the Biden administration with immigration has been that by law,
the president is required to detain his administration has to
detain anybody who asks for asylum. That's according to the law.
The Biden administration has refused.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
To enforce the law.

Speaker 15 (01:02:48):
They've refused to detain the asylum seekers, and so word
gets out that, oh, you're not going to get detained
if you seek asylum, you'll just get led into the
United States. So of course people flood to the border
and they're just getting let in. And it's incredible. It's
as simple as that. They talk about this bill that
they think they need to have passed, but it has
nothing to do with that. It has to do with

(01:03:09):
them not enforcing federal law, not detaining asylum seekers as
the law requires. And the reason they don't do it
is because this is enforcing the laws in violation of
the Biden administrations so called equity Agenda.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Jeff. One of the points that Kamala Harris makes out
immediately when asked about the immigration issue is that they
had a bipartisan bill that was defeated by Donald Trump,
and we would have solved the border crisis if that
bill would have passed. What do people need to know
about that bill and why it didn't pass?

Speaker 15 (01:03:42):
Jeff Well, First off, the bill, the border crisis is
already underway for something like two and a half years
or three years before the bill ever emerged, so that
doesn't explain everything that happened before that. And then the
bill just would have made matters worse. It was just
an attempt to try to say, oh, this hasn't been
the Biden administration's fault, it's Congress's fault. Congress needs to act,

(01:04:05):
and then of course Donald Trump's fault allegedly for killing
this bad bill. This is a bill that was negotiated
in large part by Secretary of Mayorcus. They now impeached,
although not removed secretary who's behind this whole thing, And
it was defeated on a bipartisan basis. Actually it didn't
come close to passing, and it just would have made

(01:04:27):
things worse by normalizing heretofore unprecedented levels of illegal immigration
and making it harder to detain illegal aliens it would
have done basically, it would have moved everything in the
wrong direction. But it's also just a matter of hiding
things and obscuring things to the general public, which is
the main point is the Biden administration is the reason

(01:04:49):
we're having this immigration crisis, and it's a crisis by design.
They wanted this crisis, they invited it. They don't consider
it a crisis, they consider it an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
So I it's an amazing I probably haven't actually understood
this issue as well as I do after your article
that you've written. By law, the United States of America
must detain and hold someone seeking asylum until their case
for asylum could be adjudicated. But the Biden administration decided
would they would not follow the law. They would allow

(01:05:21):
everyone through and not detain really anyone. So like, we
will look to Congress. They should have laws. It doesn't
look like that's something that Congress passed. Are they just
blatantly violating the law they were sworn to uphold by
just letting by not detaining anyone or almost no one.

Speaker 15 (01:05:41):
Yes, that's exactly what they're doing. And this just goes
to show how essential the number one job of a
president is to enforce the law. That's what the executive
ranch is supposed to do is execute the law, and
they just simply will not do it because they want
to let these people in Spriin Court, Justice Saguel Alito
wrote that the detention requirements for asylum seekers, as we

(01:06:04):
have held quote, as we have held our mandatory unquote,
you have to detain these folks. And then when called
on it, in which the Bide administration rarely has been,
they try to say things like, well, we just don't
have enough detention space. Well for starters, when you let
it make it clear that you're going to let everybody in,
then you have a lot more need for detention space

(01:06:25):
because people just flood to the border. But also it's
interesting that we used to have room as of I
think twenty nineteen for fifty five thousand people in detention space.
The Biden administration has requested that we only have room
for They've requested funding that would only support twenty five
thousand people. So they requested radically insufficient funding for detention

(01:06:48):
space because they don't want to detain anybody. That's not
what they want to do. And you know, the impeachment
of my orcst was entirely justified.

Speaker 13 (01:06:55):
But really this is.

Speaker 15 (01:06:56):
Coming from the top. This is a Biden a present
Biden initiative.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Final question for you, Jeff, I mean, if Donald Trump
is elected here in a little more than two weeks,
and we're all hoping he is, how much of a
I mean, how big of a job is it going
to be to turn this around? Or can he do
this with a few executive orders?

Speaker 15 (01:07:16):
Well, the good news is that all you have to
do is start enforcing the law and it'll turn around
almost immediately. He just oh thatre reinstitute the remain in
Mexico policy to you know, so we don't have as
much concern about detention space, et cetera. This will all
change overnight, just like it did change overnight when Biden

(01:07:37):
took office. The thing that's not so easy to deal
with is to approximately ten million people now it looks
like that the Biden minstration is led into the country
over the last three and two thirds years. That's ten
million people that are Some of them will go back
sort of willingly over time, but a lot of them won't.

(01:07:58):
So you not can be able to undo all the damage,
but you can certainly stop it. From uh from continuing
and that wouldn't take much.

Speaker 2 (01:08:06):
Jeff Anderson with the American Main Street Project joining us
on our newsmaker line, talking about what's going on with
the Biden administration. They're playing with the numbers, surprise, surprise.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
Does that sound a little different than past administrations? Yeah,
I would think a little.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
Bit, just slightly more. Coming up, Rod and Greg Talk
Radio one oh five nine k n rs. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
We have a discussion talk on the air. And the
first thing you say when we come on the air
is what we should talk about?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
What we talk about it? You embarrassed me because because
I started watching and you're ahead of me on this
The Lincoln Lawyer, which is on Netflix, which I really like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
This dialogue this is just us talking about the show.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
And I asked you some questions and you looked at
me and said, you dummy, those are flashbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
Yeah. You don't even understand the plot.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah I do. I just didn't die and pick up
the first few.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Weeks, which is like integral to the entire story.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Now I understand it. Okay, thank you for sharing. Shall
we go back to We've been talking a lot about immigration.
Now we've got a listener who has waited very patiently
on the show tonight. Yes, by the way, to share
her thoughts about mass deportation. Let's go to Becky, who's
in Pleasant Growth tonight on the Rotten Great Show. Becky,
thank you for your patience and welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (01:09:14):
Hi Becky, Hi, thanks for having me on. So I
see a similar scenario here in our country, possibly developing
with what happened in Tianamin's Square back in nineteen eighty nine.
So if you guys remember there was protests breaking on
Beijing for weeks. The original Chinese troops I was reading
about this were from the cities. They were the same

(01:09:37):
community as the troops were, and so they were to
crack down on the protesters with disforce and intensity necessary.
And so to remedy this, the Chinese government recruited from
the rural areas. They went out and grabbed a bunch
of more troops. And these new soldiers had no loyalty
or sympathy with the city dwellers, and so they didn't

(01:09:57):
hesitate to put down the uprisings with extra and violence.
They massacre of citizens. Now and fast forward to Obama,
Remember he talked about creating a brown shirt army, and
he said he thought they should be as well trained
and equipped as our military. So he didn't do that.
But now we have many thousands of military age illegal

(01:10:18):
immigrants that are getting support from tax tier dollars. And
what happens if the politicians offer citizenship to these people,
to these young men in exchange military.

Speaker 1 (01:10:28):
Okay, I see where you're going, and all of.

Speaker 16 (01:10:30):
A sudden, you know, there's ardly a brown shirt army
right made up of brand new citizens, but especially with
no loyalty to the American people.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
So there's just a thought, interesting thought that is I
appreciate that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
That's a very interesting thought.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Yeah, I thought you were going in a different direction.
But I actually I don't disagree with you about if
there was a lack of attachment to this country and
you had a large presence of a military like that
that was more connected to the political agenda of the
you know, whoever's in charge. So, Becky, great observation. Yeah,
that's why that's why Trump has to win. You have
to basically just cut that off.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
For that she was saying about the urban soldiers who
wouldn't go after their own people, and that's why they
went and got rural soldiers. It reminds me a couple
of years ago. My wife and I took a tour
of the Northeast during the fall and we went to
Lexington and Concord, which is an interesting place. You know,
first shots fired, do you know when the revolutionaries and

(01:11:27):
they were farmers and you know, they weren't official soldiers,
and they came down to defend a bridge. They were
afraid to go after the British soldiers simply because they
were their fellow countrymen. If you think about it, yes,
and they said and finally one of the one of
the farmers or one of the leaders said, come on,
folks were fighting for our freedom, and that changed. But

(01:11:48):
they were reluctant at first to go after the British
military because they were fellow countrymen.

Speaker 1 (01:11:53):
Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that. I think,
and I've seen this that a third were Tories or
they were very loyal, still loyal of the population and
the in the colonies at the time. A third were
very loyal to Britain, a third were agnostic, like they
just didn't really have a take, and then a third
we're looking to yeah that we're looking to separate so
it wasn't. It wasn't just some you know, we look

(01:12:14):
at in hindsight and think, oh everyone was all in.
It's all that's very difficult. And that was then too.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, all right. More final segment of the Rod and
Greg Show. We have not talked about Donald's visit to McDonald's.
Oh yes, we got. I shared some thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:29):
I want McDonald's just talk. I just I've been. I've
been craven McDonald since I saw and just getting those
fries ready and putting a meeting people at the drive
through window is beautiful. And their hot fries are so good.
They really are still pretty durn good today. Cheeseburger mill
with a large fry and getting it on the way home.
That says it. That seals the deal.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
All right, you hear that, Queen Bee, No dinner, he
just wants he wants a hamburger from McDonald's. More coming up,
final segment of The Rod and Greg Show right here
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine a n RS.
Tomorrow two weeks out. We're gonna go back to Matt Cousin.
Matt Cousin Matt yep in Pennsylvania will get a read

(01:13:06):
from Matt. Because the polls, Greg have started to shift yes,
Pennsylvania toward Donald Trump. So we'll get you up to
day down.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
There's a lot of momentum in Pennsylvania right now, and
it's being felt in a lot of different parts. And
my cousin who convinced me in twenty sixteen to get
behind Trump, said he's gonna win Pennsylvania. They're k not
going to vote for any of the other Republicans. That's
why I was That's why I endorsed him sixteen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
S Donham. Now, it was the visit to McDonald's yesterday.
I think it was a classic Trump. Absolutely, he is
a master when it comes to retail politics, Greg. And
look what he did. He did this during his presidency.
You know, he'd have the tweet of the day and
he set the news agenda for the entire day because
some of the things that he would say in his

(01:13:51):
morning tweets, right, he controlled the agenda yesterday. And the
media doesn't realize it. Every media spent time covering Trump,
serving from McDonald and handling the drive through. Kamala doesn't
get it. She doesn't know how to do retail politics.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
And in fact, all they know how to do is
then attack Trump, attack McDonald's, attack that actual McDonald's. And
then they said, you know it's all stage. Well, no,
no more than your you. Actually she actually went to
a popular Permanni Brothers. It's a sandwich shop in Pittsburgh.
They kicked all the patrons out at three o'clock. They
were watching a pirate game put in vans. They are

(01:14:28):
so called supporters. To make it look like that, nobody
and they all know that's how it happened. I mean
daily mainly been covered it. The New York Times never
mentioned that as some stage deal. This wasn't that the
McDonald's was closed. They made sure that the people coming
through the drive through, they didn't They weren't campaign supporters,
but they were people they had to check to make
sure they weren't going to harm the president given the

(01:14:49):
assassination attempts. Right, So there was much more organic people
of that area of having something to do with it. So,
and it was just great his interaction with the people
that their record and the questions he's asking them, and
how he's so happy that the way he's putting the fries,
and nobody touches the fries like he thought they would.
It's brilliant stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Here's a little bit of him working at the drive through.

Speaker 8 (01:15:10):
This guy, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
Going to mess with him.

Speaker 13 (01:15:11):
How you doing, no brool you good?

Speaker 14 (01:15:16):
Thank you telling you so?

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
This is documented me. Okay, all right, you will have
a good time and tell me too much.

Speaker 12 (01:15:24):
Right? Good, Thank god, have a good time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:30):
Thank you.

Speaker 13 (01:15:32):
Excuse this is one I could do this all day.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
I wouldn't mind this job.

Speaker 13 (01:15:37):
You didn't like this job, I think I might come
back and do it again.

Speaker 9 (01:15:40):
I thank you, Thank you President.

Speaker 14 (01:15:47):
Too many pokers for all these people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
That doesn't you know?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
I mean thank you. I can see they for you
all the time.

Speaker 5 (01:15:56):
You want to thank you that you want to thank you?

Speaker 9 (01:16:02):
Thank you ver much.

Speaker 14 (01:16:03):
I took a bullet.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
What do you think about it?

Speaker 9 (01:16:06):
I guess that's thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:16:09):
Yes, go ahead, thank you for taking a bullet for
uce is what she said. Now Here. Here's how the
New York Times described it today. You ready for this? Yeah?
Trump cooks French fries in French cuffs.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
And then I saw another tweet one of the liberal
media out there saying where was his hair net?

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
Yeah? You know?

Speaker 15 (01:16:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Someone else said, oh that McDonald's had health violations before,
and they want to They attacked, They attacked the McDonald's itself.
I'm going to tell you that the elitists that they
have so lost connection from the American people, they have
no idea why. That was an endearing moment. That was
a moment where he puts on and he really does.
He's not just standing with people and just doing a photoop.
He's actually working the window. He's talking to the people

(01:16:58):
at the window. And few people that are running for
office could actually get away with a moment like that
because it wouldn't feel authentic. It Actually, if you listen
to that back and forth that Trump was having with
people that were driving up, those were genuine exchanges. My
Queen Bee Christa would tell you that when he met
when we met him coming off of Air Force one,
his discussion with my wife was more in depth and

(01:17:21):
inquisitive about our kids than she'd had with politicians in Utah.
And we've been I've been in it for quite a
while up to that point. He does have that genuine
authenticity about him that people aren't hit the persona doesn't
match the actual guy. If you get if you have
any time to be around him, and in moments like that,
you see a side of him you don't see when
he's neck on a debate stage or something like that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Well, what I as I look back now, Greg again's
of twenty four hours old. But here Donald Trump is
again controlling the news media. I mean, they can't not
show up and cover him in McDonald's and he dominates
the news throughout the day and even into the morning.
You know, morning Joel was talking about how dare he's

(01:18:03):
work out of McDonald's. I mean, folks, he's controlling the
media and you guys don't even roll. You know, he
controls you because you all have Trump derangement syndrome first
and foremost. And then he controls you by some of
the very simple things that he does. And he's very
good at retail politics.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
And let it be known, it wasn't lost on anyone,
at least on the campaign side, where Kamala Harris has claimed,
I think back in nineteen she worked at McDonald's, But
no one can find a single coworker, by the way,
your boss that will actually confirm it. He actually goes
there and probably now has spent more time at the
McDonald's in front of the friar and given out the

(01:18:40):
fries than she ever did.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, in reality, that's what he said. I've spent fifteen
minutes in McDonald's fifteen minutes Kamala Harris never did. All right,
busy show coming your way tomorrow. We are down to
the final two weeks as of tomorrow. We've got a
lot to get to. We'll talk about the battle in
Arizona over the Mormon vote.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
Yes, I not to talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
I have strong feeling you're't gonna go crazy onm me tomorrow,
all right, and we'll go to We'll go to cousin
Matt find out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
We'll go like cousin Matt, find out on the ground,
what's happening in the Pittsburgh, PA.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
Had up shoulders bag made. God bless you and your
family in this great country of ours. We'll talk to
you tomorrow at four

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