The Rod and Greg Show: Why Christians Must Vote for Donald Trump

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, We've got a lot to get to today.
Bill Clinton has thrown Hill Kamala under the bus. Thank you, Bill.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I don't think he knew he was doing it. And
thanks thanks Slick Willie. We appreciate the love.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Kamala has had some very nice things to say today
about Columbus Day, has she? Yeah, she really, She's really
praising American Columbus Day. We'll get into that a little
bit later on. We'll talk about religion and politics. We'll
talk about why Christians must choose Donald Trump this year.
We'll get into that. And coach Joe Kennedy. Coach Kennedy,
of course, wages the battle against the school districts up

(00:33):
there in Washington, fighting for his right to take a
knee and say a prayer at the end of a
football game, when all the way to the Supreme Court.
There's now a movie out on that. We'll talk to
Coach Joe too.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Yeah, what a pathetic even you have to go to court,
to the highest court to fight that. Just at at
the Steeler game, of which I will continue to drop
throughout the show, of that glorious victory against the Raiders
at the end of the game, Raiders and Steelers together.
They huddled, many of them, many of them huddled at
the fifty yard line, and Nelton had a quick prayer
at the end. I know it's not church and State,
but it's just not an incomprehensible moment for people to

(01:06):
engage in.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yeah, that's true. Imagine that well as you typically do.
You share with the staff here at Talk Radio one
oh five nine interesting little tidbits about your life.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
This is not on the script, it's not on a
show sheet.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
No it's not. But Friday, I heard you talking to
some of our great people out there, are account executive
talking about the fact that you used to eat milk
bone biscuits.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, milk bone dog biscuits. They were for my grandmother's dog,
and when I was little, I happened to acquire a
taste for them and I never lost.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
So today the staff came forward and gave you a
box of milk bone biscuits, right, and you've been eating
these things.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yes, I have, proudly.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
They're the little ones, folks, don't get too freaked out.
They're the small ones. So they're for those smaller type dog.
But though they're not colored, not like green or red,
they're just the natural like oatmeal looking color. But they're
not bad at all. Now they are dry, so you
gotta have some red bull with it.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
So red bull and milk bones.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yes, red bone milk bones. And that's how and that's
how I roll.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Well in honor of that, we found this little ditty.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
There's real nourishment and milk bones and it gives him
annoying and chewing exercise he needs for healthy teeth and gums.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
And not bone helps make us coach shiny and smooth.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
You'll find Geordan will love milk bone anytime too, as
a reward in training, as a treat, breakfast time, or
for in between snacks. So ask your mom to pick
up milk bone dog biscuits for your for milk BRAWNE
and his famous red and pillow box comes in three sizes, small, medium,
and large. You're sure to find a milk bone dog

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biscuit and the size.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Shorts drop the little gregs in.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Just you know, that's beautiful. I didn't I didn't know
that was coming. That's you know. The small is really
the ones that are the best. They're just so manageable.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
You sat in front of us in etheats.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I tried to get Abby to do it. I asked
everybody here to try them, just.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Try, just try.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You don't know what you don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I think I did when I was a kid. Didn't
try milk bones.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Well they shouldn't. If they didn't, they missed out, they
missed growing up. Abby would not do it. She was,
she refused. She was very judgy too, which she said,
now really she looked at me like I was, like
I was, there's something wrong with me, like I was
an animal.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Well, well, I guess if you eat a milk bone,
well it says you've got animal.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I got healthy gums, I got strong jaws. Yeah, yeah,
my teeth are shiny.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
The ball. Yeah, see what happens when you eat milk bones.
So let me let me let her listeners know if
you ever are thinking of a gift for my cohort, Uh,
mister Hughes, he loves milk bones.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not embarrassed to say.
You can't shame me out of it either. I won't.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But you known't do that.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
I you need the milk before you get the milk bone.
So you just drink the milk one day, maybe the
meat or the milk bone you can have, but it's
it's it's next level stuff. You must be. It takes
it takes someone special.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
That's good, all right. It is the Rotten Gray Show.
We do more than talk about milk bones. We actually
talk about what's going on in the day's news. And
you know what today, well, there are two anniversaries today,
it's Columbus Day. Okay, we honored Columbus Day. It was
what four or five years ago when the Hunter Biden
laptop story came to.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Life definite fourteen. Yeah, yeah, can you believe that three
weeks that Russian disinformation, that fifty security.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I just wanted to bring those.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Today.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
They've had New York Posts have the story today for
what five years ago?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
For New York Posts they got they got completely shadow band,
Yeah did.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
They Sure did. Now let's talk about Columbus Day. Our
lady who wants to be the President of the United States,
Kamala Harris, shared her thoughts today about Columbus Day. Here's
what she had to say about Explorer.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Those explorers ushered in a wave of devastation for tribal nations,
perpetrating violence, stealing land, and spreading disease. We must not
shy away from this shameful past, and we must shed
light on it and do everything we can to address

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the impact of the past.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
On Native communities. Today said today.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I thought you earlier today, that was todayez I.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Thought she was trying to pull away from that, that
this is a shameful day for.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Does she realize we all may not be here if
it wasn't for Columbus and the other explorers.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Well, I find it to be incredible, and you'll see
this in universities too, where they have this, you know,
this acknowledgment that we all are living and breathing and
using stolen land. If you buy something that's hot, if
you bought something in the best of faith, but you
find out that it was stolen, you don't get to
keep it. So, if you truly believe that the land
you're standing on was stolen, give it back, shut it back.

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I don't see any of these people doing it. They're like,
it's almost like they're rubbing it in. It's like, hey,
under the banner of that, we care more. Just know,
we know we ripped you off. That just doesn't sound
like a nice message to me. I don't know why
that's done under the banner of I care so much
you don't just seems hollow. Yeah, you know her and
Dougie have a really nice home. Just give the homeback.
It's stolen land, give it back to indigenous people. Why

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she I think she's feeling guilty, So get rid of
the guilt.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
You have your homeback. Yeah, it makes sense to me.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Actions speak louder than words. They don't have to condemn
people that aren't even around the yell at anymore. She's
yelling at us for something. We in doo give it back,
Give it all back if that's how you feel. But
guess what they're not going to You know why, because
they're actually happy that we're all here, right, Yeah, we're
all enjoying it.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
And speaking of that, someone has dug into uh little
Kambala's past hurt, hurt, great great great grandfather or something
own slaves. Uh oh, well you know it's over now.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
You don't have to You don't have to be the
person actually did it to be in trouble for that. Yeah,
that isn't that what we learned? He owned slaves in Jamaica.
Just one word, that's an awkward thing. On Columbus day
no less.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
All right, when we come back, we'll run down some
audio SoundBite from over the weekend. Jdvans is rapidly becoming
one of my heroes. And can we do an asterisk?
At some point we had a little debate on Friday.
You thought the Kamala Harris campaign was a finely tuned machine,
running great, doing what they had to do. You thought
Trump's gonna get less votes now than he gotten twenty.
Can you you want to revisit that position with me?

(07:17):
You just like to bash me on it. I just
revisit that.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I think this weekend gave you a.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Chance on Friday to be a hero. I was, and
you took it. You see, so I sacrificed myself so
that you could be.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
The weekend emphasized whose position is correct.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I had one or two people come up and say
they agree with me.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh please, you can't count your wife and your son.
They're just kissing on. They just felt sorry for you.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
They needed money, all right? Coming up in the Rotting
Gregg Show here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine,
can rs all right, A lot of stuff over the weekend.
We want to get to, first of all, the world
woke up to this today. I don't know how many
of you watch Meet the Press. I shouldn't say the world,
but liberals who loved that show, by the way, woke
up and heard this Sunday morning on Meet the Press.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
The big headline this is a national head to head poll,
is that Vice President Kamala Harris had a five point
lead in our last poll taken a month ago, right
after the debate. That lead has all but evaporated. Willie,
take a look at this new head to head matchup
eight percent to forty eight percent.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
That is what we call a dead locked race.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
It underscores what we all know that this is tight,
that the country is sharply divided. One of the other
big headlines here people are viewing the Trump presidency more
favorably than the Biden presidency. Why is that significant. We've
seen the Vice president get pressed repeatedly on what she
would do differently than President Biden, and she's really struggled.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
With that answer.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
You think Kristen Welker sounded a little shocked, just a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can hear that utter panic in her voice. Is
she's sharing this and look, Gallup came out with their
their polls. Just I think it was today actually that
for the third consecutive year more US adults have no
trust at all in in in the in the traditional media.
Uh then, and that trust is it's just declining every

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single year, Rod, and I think that when you were
going to play some clips and this is why you're
going to hear some questions posed to Jade answered, and
you hear some discussions here where you do not have
a you do not have a media that's just trying
to call balls and strikes. They are truly on one
side of this race, and it's it's Kamala Harrison the
Democrat side, and everything they do to push it, it

(09:41):
just it indicts themselves.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, I love Greg and I think Donald Trump taught
them how to do this. But how conservatives who are
now getting on the legacy media shows like Meet the
Brass Face the Nation this week, are not afraid to
push back. Finally they're finally stepping up some point which
you just mentioned Evans twice over the weekend he really
did pushback on the media trying to get him to

(10:05):
say something. First of all, he slammed Martha Raddo It's
on ABC this week during an interview yesterday for downplaying
the seriousness of illegal alien crime here in the US.
Listen to this.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
The incidents were limited to a handful of apartment conflex
apartment complexes, and the mayor said, our dedicated police officers
have acted on those concerns a handful of problems.

Speaker 8 (10:31):
Only, Martha, do you hear yourself? Only a handful of
apartment complexes in America were taken over by Venezuelan gangs.
And Donald Trump is the problem and not Kamala Harris's
open border. Americans are so fed up with what's going on,
and they have every right to be. And I really
find this exchange, Martha's sort of interesting because you seem

(10:52):
to be more focused with nitpicking everything that.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Donald Trump has said, rather.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
Than acknowledging that apartment complex in the United States of
America are being taken over by violent gangs.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Only a handful, Only a handful, Only a handful.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
And why And this is why I've noted that the
confidence in me is going away, because our listeners here
in Utah know for a fact we have heard callers
call in we are dealing with this exact problem. In Harriman,
we have apartment complexes We've had callers call in and
say they're a police are there every single night. The
housing has become harder, the jobs have become harder, the

(11:27):
schools have become tougher. And so when she says this
is only a handful, first, she's acknowledging, Yeah, it is happening.
Everything that we told you wouldn't happen, and everything we
laughed at when you said would happen. Oh, it's happening.
But just having a handful of places the people here
in Utah. No, no, that's not just Aurora, Colorado. That's
that's Harem in Utah. That's other places. Kaysville, you had

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that violent.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Field Ohio, Kysville, Utah. You've had it in Pennsylvania as well.
But it's just a.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Handful, just a handful. Look, we're just you know, it's
not where I live. It's not in the stony North
the Virginian area where I have my three million dollar house,
and I'm asking these questions.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, vance was added again with a New York Times reporter,
Lulu Garcia Navarro. She did they apparently the New York
Times never listen to it does a podcast called The Interview,
And she kept on asking JD. Vans why he wouldn't
say that Donald Trump lost the election in twenty twenty,
and he brought up several questions, including this.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Did big technology companies sinsor a story that independent studies
have suggested it would have cost Trump millions of votes?

Speaker 9 (12:34):
Senator that I'm going to ask you again, did Donald
Trump lose the twenty.

Speaker 8 (12:38):
Yard I answered your question with another question. You answer
my question, and I'll answer yours. I have asked this
question repeatedly. It is something that is very important for
the American people to know. There is no proof, legal
or otherwise that Donald Trump did not lose the twenty
twenty election. You're repeating a slogan rather than engaging with
what I'm saying, which is that in our own technology

(13:01):
firms engage in industrial scale censorship, by the way, backed
up by the federal government, in a way that independent
studies suggest affect the votes. I'm worried about Americans who
feel like there were problems in twenty twenty. I'm not
worried about this slogan that people throw. Well, every court
case went this way. I'm talking about something very discreet.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, he is talking about he is so good by
the way of this. He is very, very good. But
you are talking about the censorship of the Hunter Biden
laptop story, which was four years ago.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I can answer that question all day. It's clear that
that Joe Biden won because he's president the United States
right now. Were their irregularities and I use that with
air quotes one hundred percent for fact there were. He
can't say otherwise. And here's another question. I have Jamie
Rask and the Democrat from them from you know that's
in Congress. He won't answer the question if Trump wins legitimately,

(13:50):
will will you vote to certify the election? He won't
answer that question. That's a real time question that ought
to be asked by especially by pious people that aren't
you know, they're not as good as they get. They're
not ready to answer a question like that, or they're avoided.
Many of them are. And it's scary they're avoiding that
question specific question.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Well, there are a lot. There's so many points brought
up this weekend. But I really compliment jd.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Evince.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
He's very smart. He knows how to deal with me.
Oh and we forgot to mention this today. Greg Kamala
Harris is going to do an interview on Fox News. Yeah,
it's going to take place. I think Wednesday. Brett Bair
is gonna be there. He'll be the interviewer, and for
the most part, I think Brett does a pretty good job.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
He does.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
I mean, he'll be criticized, but.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
I got to tell you, the one thing that Fox
News will do, I believe, is that to prove their
critics wrong that think that they're going to be biased
because ABC, NBC, CNN, and they don't, MSNBC, they don't care.
It's like water off a duck's back. But Fox will say, look,
you know we we we reject this this broad brush
you like to paint us in. So I think the
fairest interview, like a real interview, is going to come

(14:56):
from Fox because they're particularly sensitive to that kind of criticism.
So it's going to be very even handed, I believe.
But I don't think. I think this is one of
those low percentage shots that a candidate and campaign make
when they're losing. There's no reason they would be going
on Fox. Biden never did it if they thought that
if they felt like they were winning. So it's a
tell in the campaign elections world that they are in

(15:17):
trouble that they're even willing to accept an invitation to
go on Fox News. But there's some the view she
evaded or answered wrong questions. From the view, which is
there anything different you do than President Biden. I've been
with them the whole time. We may these decisions together,
hand and glove. We've done this, I mean, her most
friendly interviews and environments. She can't get these questions right.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Well, the interesting thing Brett bhar was interviewed earlier today
on Fox about her decision to come on Fox with
Brett bah And he said, look it, first of all,
they do not get the questions at a time that's
not going to happen. And secondarily, no editing.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I'm surprised that she's doctor's note saying she's sick. She's
not coming in.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
I believe she got sick.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I believe it when I see it. She's going to
get some Uh, there's something's going to happen. I don't
know how they walk in.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Don't trust him.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Although I heard that there's a Charlemagne the God in
a town hall coming. Yeah, well that one's tomorrow. That's
going to be fair. That's you know, she'll never know
any of the questions coming her way on that one.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
All right, A lot more to come on the Monday
edition of The Rotten Gregg Show right here on Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine. Okay, an arrests.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
All right, let's talk about religion and politics. Greg, my
grandmother's my grandmama. Scene says, you do not do this,
this is what you want to Why not you don't
discuss such things in play company?

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Oh? Okay, okay? Well, has politics taken the place of
religion nowadays? Do you any of us on our news
make a line to talk about that?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Is?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rick Larson, he's president of the Sutherland Institute, wrote about
that in today's deserrad News. Rick, always great to have
you on the show. I mean, my gifts is there
are people who for a long time have been so
immersed into politics that it has become their religion. Has
anything changed or has it always been that way?

Speaker 10 (17:05):
Well, I think it's probably safe and fair to say
it's always been that way for some people. But we're
in a different state right now. And this is backed
up by by analysis from an economic standpoint, point, from
a behavioral standpoint, from a spiritual standpoint. There there's no
denying the intersections that these lines cross as a decline

(17:27):
in religious affiliation is occurring, along with an increase in
the rhetoric to the rhetoric and contempt of political dialogue.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
So so my question is, I mean, I was I
grew up where you were told don't discuss religion or
politics and polite company. H and and now you point
out that the worst irony of political engagement is it
can have the potential of dividing of family. Forget polite company.
What would you what are your remedies for this? I mean,

(17:59):
how do we put it in its proper perspective? Because
apathy isn't the answer that we just don't care about
politics at all. So there's you know, there's extremes here.
There's one where it becomes too important and can have
the effect of a dividing family. The other is that
you have apathy and we would that's not This is
a participation process. So what's the sweet spot?

Speaker 10 (18:18):
Greg That's a great question. And I was raised in
a similar environment and I think we went way too
far with that, And the intent was don't offend people,
don't discuss religion and politics. You know, you want to
start a disagreement. Where we are today is so far
past disagreement. It's the introduction of and this is where
the replacement of religious philosophy applied to politics. Why it's

(18:42):
so dangerous because if I say you and I disagree
on a policy issue, well, that's recoverable. We can still
be friends, we can still be respectful. If I take
the position that your position is evil, we now have
a relatetionationship problem. So I believe the solution is lowering

(19:04):
the temperature and realizing we're talking about ideas, We're talking
about differences in policy approach. The brilliance of the American
form of government is it's meant to protect everyone, minorities
and majorities. But when we go to this personal attack
mode of protect the majority, protect your party, protect your ideology,

(19:26):
that's not a conversation. We need to relearn how to
have a conversation about ideas.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Rick, you quote or mentioned Arthur Brooks and your column,
And I remember Arthur Brooks speaking at one of your
Sutherland Institute events where he talked about not the disagreement
so much, but is the contempt that we have for
each other before we can even talk about the issues
can that contempt be removed at all?

Speaker 10 (19:49):
Rig Yeah, Well so we just did another event with Arthur,
went the same thing again with events are great local
community leaders. It's a very productive conversation. Every event we
hold with him, people agree. We have learned how to
be contemptuous somewhere, and there's at no point am I
going to try to lay blame on anyone because we've

(20:11):
all become complicit. It became okay to take a more
contemptuous tone. It became okay to shift from the idea
to attack the person. It became okay to call them,
you know, and stupid. We learned how to do that.
We can learn that. In fact, I think one of
the great reasons for hope is I'm hoping the upcoming

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generation is looking at some of this ridiculous, hateful dialogue
and will at some point say to themselves, this is
not okay. I don't want to do it this way anymore.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, I've said this, We mentioned this on a
pergum quite quite a bit. And really, if you look
at the political dialogue, it's it's not necessarily reserved to
one side or the other of the political spectrum, but
certainly if your campaign is primarily Donald Trump is evil.
Be afraid of Donald Trump. Don't vote for Donald Trump.

(21:04):
There's there's it would it would suggest a moral or
ethical or intellectual failing if you were to vote for
Donald Trump. I have found that that this is to
your point, there is no there is not a policy issue.
We might have a disagreement on one side is just
incapable of or has failed and its morals or its

(21:24):
ethics or its intelligence. I guess do you see that
rhetoric more or less from one side of the aisle
or the other? I know it's a hard question. I
know it's a hard question to answer, especially for suttlment
An Institute. But because you're you're building bridges. But is
this did someone follow someone else's lead? I guess is
what I'm asking.

Speaker 10 (21:45):
Yeah, again, Greg, I love the way you're approaching this
because I can say with that reservation, and I think
it's incumbent upon me to say it's not worse on
one side or the other. Both sides employee these tactics
and then both of them blame the other when when
the conversation evolves, one of the solutions that there's an

(22:05):
inherent laziness to this because one of the solutions you
asked about, how do we get out of this? It
would be interesting if people would sharpen their argument, would
understand it more fully and be able to defend it
without reverting to attack and insult. It seems to me,
and we advocate for this in policy all the time.
The more you think you have a sound policy idea,

(22:27):
the more disciplined you should be in explaining it, because
the minute you attack the other person, the ability to
share your idea is gone. So if you really believe
right or left you have a better idea, you have
an obligation to explain it, to teach to stand by it,
and don't fall down to personal attack because you're no
longer having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Rick greg and I talk about this on the show
quite a bit. We talk about the use of common sense.
How does common sense play into the ability to have
a conversation with someone who as a completely opposite view
you do of various issues? Can common sense come into that?
Can that start the conversation?

Speaker 10 (23:09):
It can, but it requires It's enough for one party
to exhibit some common sense, but they're also going to
have to exhibit some restraint. Arthur will teach, and there
are others who will teach these same things. One of
the key when you realize you're in a conversation like that,
there are a few simple questions that can be very

(23:30):
disarming and very informative, and we can't be afraid to
ask something like tell me more about why you feel
that way? How did you come to that position? Now,
if you ask that in order to amill up and
cut them off at the knees, you're doing it for
the wrong reason. If you're interested in possibly learning more
about their motivation and.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
How they arrived at that point, that.

Speaker 10 (23:53):
Can be a valuable moment to lower the temperature and
speak with some understanding now of where they're coming from.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Rick Lardson, President of the Sullolan Institute of Rick, thanks
for joining this interesting conversation about being able to have
a somewhat decent conversation with someone you disagree with. Why
don't we get a sense you can't?

Speaker 2 (24:13):
I felt very hand tied into the conversation with I
like Rick a lot, and it's a but I did.
Don't you feel Rod that the voices that say we
should be more civil are some of the more nasty voices.
Sometimes that's what I was trying to ask, but you know.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Yeah, tend to be all right. Mare coming up on
the Roden Greg Joe. Here's Scott Jennings on CNN talking
about Kamala Harrison in the week she had at.

Speaker 11 (24:34):
The polling this morning and the week. I think David's right,
it was a rough week. I mean, her phase are down,
they're struggling with I mean the front page of the
New York Times this morning, front page story, Democrats struggling
with African American voters, particularly African American men. This gender gap.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Issue is real. It's a real problem, and you see the.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Democrats reacting to it, and I think what they are
now finally in October the election coming to realize is
that a lot of men think Democrats care more about
dudes who want to become women than dudes who just
want to be And no hunting, cosplay or cringey videos
is going to change it.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
The bed is made. That's a great line from Scott Jennings.
Care more about men who want to become women instead
of men who want to be mad And.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Then you hear the collective ground from the CNN. God,
don't say that that's a secret we're not supposed to
say that to everybody.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Well, the former chairman of the Sea of the RNC
Ryan's previous also weighed in on Kamala's bed week.

Speaker 12 (25:31):
What happened last week is that what was working with
female voters with Kamala Harris was that there was some
feeling of joy.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
In the air.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Well that joy is gone.

Speaker 12 (25:41):
She had a terrible where she picked a pointless fight
with Rond De Santis. You know, she was losing in
the Sunbelt, and she tried to recover by going on
the View, which a lot of women watch.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
She went on the View.

Speaker 12 (25:53):
You talked about it earlier, and she wanted to clarify
the two most important issues that are facing these two candidates,
the economy and immigration. And she bombed like Rory at
the US Open and she went out there and said
there was nothing she would do that would be different
than Joe Biden. And he created a campaign commercial for Donald.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Trump and we played that campaign remember that one.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
I know, it's the worst campaign you've ever seen. That
is just so offensive.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Great gift.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
So Nate Silvery, you know, he's one of the guys
does these models. People like it. He's announced his preference
of who he'd liked to see waining most of his subscribers,
he says, are also Democrats that want to see this
stat you know, the modeling that shows their candidate choice
is going to win. So you understand that bias in
his critical analysis, Why I like to read it. He's saying,
I don't think it's easy to say. I don't think

(26:47):
it's easy to say which campaign you'd rather be. At
this point, the race is a pure toss up. I
would think what he meant there was. I don't think
it's easy to say who you don't whose campaign you
wouldn't want to be Right now. He points out that
there's been an erosion of Harris's blue wall by only
half a point, but in this at this point, half
point means a whole lot. And that's coming from somebody
who really really would love to justify her Kamala Harris

(27:10):
winning Mark Alprin. Also, they're they're saying the endgame, there
is no time left, end games upon us. And he's complaining.
He's saying that a lot of people are complaining her schedule.
Campaign schedule starts at four thirty pm. There should be
three states and four networks in a battleground state by
four thirty.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
Complaining she's not working hard enough for this. Donald Trump
certainly is all right more coming up Power number two
there rodin Greg Show on its way to stay with
us with friends like this, who needs enemy?

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Right?

Speaker 1 (27:41):
You know, late last week, I think it was Friday,
we really tore into Barack Obama for scolding black men
who dare to support Donald Trump, right, And there's been
a lot of pushback on that this week. And then
today here comes old Billy Clinton, slick slick will so
slick anymore agent getting catching up to him. But slick

(28:02):
Willie was campaigning down south for Kamala Harris, and he
brought up immigration, and well, I don't know if this
is what Kamala's people really wanted him to say. Listen
to this.

Speaker 13 (28:15):
You had a case in Georgian not very long ago,
didn't you. They made an ad about it about it,
a young woman who had been killed by an immigrant.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (28:23):
Well, if they'd all been properly vetted, that probably wouldn't
have happened. But if they all properly vetted, and that
doesn't happen, and America is not having enough babies to
keep our populations up so we need immigrants that have
been vetted to do work.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
There wouldn't be a problem. Old Bill said, you know, Kamala,
if you would have done your job and had your
people properly vetted, this Georgia woman would be alive today.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeahs he At first, he completely slams the Harris campaign
of who he's campaigning for. He slams them for not,
you know, vetting the people coming in well enough that
someone that Lincoln rally was Lincoln right, excuse me, was
horribly killed. But then the second part, I love this
new nude line, and that's that we have depopulation. So

(29:21):
it's now it's not you know, it's it's you know,
we have to do this because we can't survive. Well,
this is what you get when you have a secularization
of this country, when you've had the Democrats absolutely take family,
just eliminate the concept of family or marriage or of
a building a family, and really chastise you for suggesting
such a thing. So now people get married later, they
have less kids. And now guess what we have. We

(29:43):
have a depopulation problem. Now we need the immigrants to
come in because we don't have enough babies. Well, I
got an idea, why don't you start recognizing moms, dads, kids,
babies and saying, you know, we liked, we encourage this.
This is part of that twenty twenty five flan By
the way that we've all said Trump had nothing to
do with. One of those lines in there is about,
you know, acknowledging the family unit and how important it is.

(30:05):
That's what Clinton was just saying. Right now, we need
immigrants because we don't have family units, and we don't
have children that they're coming in. We're not we're not
replacing those that are dying in America anymore. It's a
depopulation problem.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
When have you ever heard greg a Democrat in this
country talk about the need for families and for family unity.
When have you ever heard them talk about the need
for fathers and mothers to marry they don't to be
educated and to have children. You never hear them talk,
not once. They skip over it. Now, but now they're
going to go to the problem you'll create. Yeah, now
the population.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Now they destroyed these notions. Now they're going to say,
you know, this is a problem. We got a problem here. Yeah,
let people in as much as we can, because we
don't have enough babies.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
That's going to be the word of the week is
going to be depopulation.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Depopulation we have we're suffering from this, folks, and we,
you know, go.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Have more babies. Well, we don't want to have more babies.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
The dolphins are you know, you know, suffocating on the
straw as these plastics r and all the plastic that biodegrade.
That's the Democrats. And now we have a depopulation problem.
Because you couldn't say family, you couldn't have kids, you
couldn't talk about any of that. That was the worst
thing in the world. Whatever you do, never get married,
never have kids. Now we have a depopulation problem.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Now, when Greg and I come back, I have a
question for everybody tonight eight eight eight five seven eight
zero one zero. Greg and I have been talking about this.
Why are Democrats so insistent and journalists as well the
media for Donald Trump to admit he lost the twenty
twenty elections. I mean it came up during a JD
vance interview over the weekend. We can bring that up.

(31:33):
Let you hear that. But why this question is always asked,
why doesn't Donald Trump admit he lost in twenty twenty?
They insist on that if it's going to make a
world of difference. I don't get it, do you.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Great, No, I think it's well, I know what I
think they're trying to do. They're trying to say he's
an insurrectionist, he will not follow the constitution, like you know,
how good you'd have to be to fake it, like
you do respect the constitution your first term, just to
get to a second term, to actually not do it.
It's an absolutely insane or ridiculous concept or premise.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
But yeah, they keep on asking it.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
They keep on asking, like, you know, if I'm off,
why do you think that? It keeps coming up as
an issue.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple
eight five seven eight zero one zero, or on your
cell phone dial pound two fifteen and say hey, Rod,
your calls and comments coming up.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
A lot of talking heads talking about the race. There's
some lot of pensive, nervous Democrats and operatives and candidates
running around not sure what to do. Bill Clinton doesn't
look like he's becoming such the powerhouse, absolutely saying Biden
and Harris should have vetted those people better before someone
got killed. But let's go. We asked the question you know,

(32:39):
you got different questions out there. The Democrats obsess on this.
Who won the election in twenty twenty. Why are they
so obsessed with that? That's a question, but also the
things we've talked about. You're listening to this. What say you, folks?
The number is eight eight eight five seven zero eight
zero one zero is the number to call. Let's go
to the calls now, our callers now, Lane on I fifteen,

(33:00):
Thank you for holding, Thanks for calling the Rodt and
Greg show. What say you, sir?

Speaker 14 (33:04):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I thought the part
that you paid about Bill Clinton, the irony was just staggering.
He talks about us, not Americans, not having enough babies,
yet they are the party of abortion. We are killing
millions of American babies every year, and then he has

(33:27):
the gall to say.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
We're not having enough babies.

Speaker 10 (33:32):
Immigrants.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Yeah, it is shocking, and you know, leave it. Thank
you Laine for your call, and I appreciate it because
that second part of that is it is unbelievable that
he goes to this depopulation narrative of we don't have
enough babies, when that is a woman's health is to
be able to terminate pregnancies up to the ninth month,
and now we're going to talk about how we don't
have enough babies. It is it is a it's it's irony.

(33:58):
Someone come in and said, aren't they the ones that
are very abortion y in their rhetoric? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I think, well, and you know what they're doing, Greg.
I think there was a report out this weekend, as
I recall, talking about that the world is going through
a depopulation. Okay, Europe has been dealing with this in
Japan has been dealing with this for quite some time.
So they pick up on that and they go, aha,
there's our reason. I think the number every year, and

(34:24):
I may be wrong. I know someone will correct us
on this. I think it is around isn't it around
three hundred and thirty five thousand abortions take place in
this country every year? That is it bigger than that millions?
So if they're talking about depopulation, so what you know?
And I love Lane's comment. You know, he talks about depopulation,
but this is a party of killing babies even after

(34:44):
they're born, correct, you know? So that is so hypocritical.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
I want to check the stats, but I've once read
that it was like North Korea and China, there were
really the only other two countries. I mean, great, you
name any other country in the world. Nobody's allowing abortions
up to the ninth month or through through a nine
month and even post or what they call partial birth
abortion and that and this is between the mother and
her doctor. No, this is no no state or no

(35:09):
country in this world. No civilized nation actually subscribes to
that notion. The ones that do are pretty barbaric and
by way of governance in North Korea China. So I mean,
I I just I think it's uh, it's not even irony,
it's it's just it's terrible that they can destroy something
and then look at it and go, look, that's destroyed.
That's a problem. We better have more illegal more immigration

(35:31):
because that's been destroyed.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
So we need immigration, legal or illegal immigration to help us.
How to help us for all the babies we're killing. Yeah,
that that that that's the issue, isn't it. That's what
That's what bill.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Look a look at all the demand for for adoptions
and and and this is where it was sad when
we saw the whether it's a Catholic church or the
Church of Jesis Christ Larry Saints getting out of the
family services and being able to place place babies of
unplay pregnancies into homes that we're looking to have families. Yeah,
they had to get out of that business because by

(36:08):
their faith, they were not going to pair them up
with same sex couples, So they had to get out
of the business entirely. How in the world has that
made this country stronger? How has it made us better?
And by Bill Clinton's admission, it doesn't. It doesn't make
us better. We're not replacing our own population. I think
it's a problem, I guess so.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Yeah, Well, just watching the coming week, as I said earlier,
watching the coming week, how often you hear Democrats now
refer to the need for illegal immigration because we are depopulating. Yeah,
they're going to use that throughout this week. That will
become one of the narratives. Now between now and election
day twenty two days away, he'll become a narrative. Greg,

(36:46):
you know that as well as I do too.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Yeah, No, it's true. But it's again, it's the fruit
of their labor that we're living through. And then they
get to somehow swoop in and pretend that they need
to repair what it is that they destroyed in the
first place.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
Yea sick all right, more coming up Rod and Greg
with you on this on Monday afternoon here on Utah's
Talk Radio one O five nine K and rs.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Folks, if you're just like I'm just not going to
get involved, it's there's a lot of good. You can
point to a president that believes in religious liberties and
we've seen the fruit of that with this president. Hey,
we have a great listener that update us over the
during the commercial break.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Because we were talking about the number of abortions in
deeppopulation and Clinton use that today.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
You know, we have we don't have enough babies.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
We don't have enough babies. We you know, we've got
to bring in these illegal immigrants because there we're going
through deepopulation cycle.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah. So the numbers are sad. Three thousand a day,
over a million a year, three thousand a day, three
thousand a days, over a million, over a million a year.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
Million a year being a boy.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
So if we, if we do are are worried about that,
I think there's some solutions that don't require letting the
refugees from Venezuela into your name, into a Colorado, Harrimon, Utah,
or Springfield, Ohio. Yeah, imagine that.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
So eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero
triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero. Greg
and I right now we're talking about this insistence on
the part of the medium and the part of Democrats
to get people like JD. Vans to say Donald Trump
lost the election in twenty twenty. I don't understand what

(38:20):
does it do for him if Donald Trump comes out
tonight and says, Okay, I lost it.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Well, and I think they're going to start I mean,
if you if we play again, then the exchange between
Jdvans Center Vance and this New York Times report that
wants to keep doing this the way he answers back,
don't they don't have an answer for what the way
he takes this question? And so if this continues to happen,
I think you're going to hear the masket less because

(38:44):
it puts them on the spot.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, listen to this exchange between JD. Vans and a
reporter for the New York Times who does a podcast.

Speaker 8 (38:51):
Did big technology companies sensor a story that independent studies
have suggested it would have cost Trump millions of votes
entered that question.

Speaker 9 (38:59):
I'm going to ask you again, did Donald Trump lose
the twenty.

Speaker 8 (39:02):
Years I've answered your question with another question. You answer
my question, and all answer yours.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
I have asked this question repeatedly. It is something that
is very important for the American people to know. There
is no proof, legal or otherwise that Donald Trump did
not lose the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 8 (39:19):
You're repeating a slogan rather than engaging with what I'm saying,
which is that when our own technology firms engage in
industrial scale censorship, by the way, backed up by the
federal government in a way that independent studies suggest affect
the votes. I'm worried about Americans who feel like there
were problems in twenty twenty. I'm not worried about this
slogan that people throw. Well, every court case went this way.

(39:42):
I'm talking about something very discreet.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
All right, Greg my question and she said, why is
it so important that Americans know that Donald Trump believes
he lost the election in twenty twenty. How many Americans
have you run into it and said, gosh, I wish
Donald Trump would admit he lost in twenty twenty. You
know what is holding the up? I mean How often
does that come up in any conversation that you have
with anybody in America today? It doesn't come up.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
It doesn't in practical terms. I've even heard him early
on after he lost say, look, he's president, so I
mean obviously he won that way. But do I think
it was a fair fight. No, I do not. And
there are plenty of issues out there. And by the way,
Hillary Clinton doesn't get beat up. She has less to
point to with this Russian collusion, that that Putin got
a hold of everybody's Facebook bots or Facebook bots and
commenced everyone that Abram's woman who ran for governor of Georgia,

(40:30):
continues to say or had set up until they started
this new narrative that she had been robbed of and
defrauded out of the governor's race in Georgia, with no
real nothing to point to. But these there are specific
concerns about chain of custody, about the transparency, about the
censorship of a New York Post article about investigative piece

(40:51):
about Hunter Biden and this laptop, which included conduct by
the then you know candidate Joe Biden, his dad and
what his involvement was of which they went and had
these intelligence officials say it has all the hallmarks of
Russian collusion, which has now been proven as absolutely false.
And they and it's also been proven that they knew
at the time they said it it was absolutely false

(41:12):
that it was actually an authentic, real laptop. These were
real things that were on it. And so for him
to put that question back and say, why do you
think that could have impacted the outcome of this election?
That's that is the real question at hand. They don't
want to hear that. By the way, ask Jamie Raskin
the congressman, if you plan to certify the election of

(41:33):
Trump wins. He won't tell you yes, he will not
say yet.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Well, he's not alone. There are several Democratic lawmakers out
there who've already said I may not certify his election.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
We would that be Why is it not so important
to know that they would fulfill that duty if he
were to win this race?

Speaker 3 (41:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero triple
eight five seven eight zero one zero. Let's go to
the phones here from Scott in Harriman tonight on the
Rodden Grage Show. Hi, Scott, how are.

Speaker 3 (42:00):
You very good sir?

Speaker 1 (42:03):
What are your thoughts on this Scott Glenn.

Speaker 15 (42:07):
Bak covered it this morning. They had somebody that was
talking about how the Democrats are going to try to
use the fourteenth Amendment to kick him out for insurrection
and then use the twelve to put Kamala Harris in
the presidency because she's the only one that's available. If
he admits that he lost, then he did it purely
to override making him an insurrectionist.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Okay, all right, Oh, I see, thanks some shedding light
on that.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I didn't that's actually that's actually a good Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Yeah, well, there's been talked before that they would try
and use a fourteenth Amendment to keep Trump out. I
think matter of fact, Raskin was one of those that
brought it up.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, he said he's not asn't even qualified because his
logic would be, if he were to do it, he
should have never qualified for being a candidate in the
first place, because as an insurrectionist, he should have been
disqualified from running. We've we've had we've had legal scholars
on this program that show that language in work that's
a civil war length has nothing to do with this.
And but you know, if you were to say that,

(43:07):
it wouldn't even mean what they say. It means that
he somehow said, well, I was just pretending that that
was the case. He wasn't. I mean, he's as I
am as concerned today as I was in the aftermath
of twenty about what I saw. I tell you this,
I can't see the Atlanta Hawks basketball arena closed down
again at eight pm Eastern watterly that no one ever
comes to repair. And then the video camera show that

(43:29):
the counting went on throughout the night. I can't watch
that twice.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Was that a toilet?

Speaker 2 (43:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:34):
It was.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
It was just ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Our number three Rodin Greg talking to you when you
come back.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
I had no idea that we had a major, major
voting block in the United States, one that I just
assumed it also included civic participation, and that is our
our our church going Christian voters. That that that I
I would have thought. I would have told you Christian
voters would make up a very strong portion of right

(44:04):
of center voters in.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
America the values that they hold.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
So joining us to help sort out this mess because
it's a mess. In my mind, it's unacceptable what I'm reading,
and I need someone to walk me through this craziness.
Is John Nancy's calling us with town Hall, A retired
FBI agent wrote a column why Christians must choose Trump.
Welcome to the program.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Sir, Hey, thank you very much for having me so.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Didn't I did not know that fifty one percent of
people of faith did not are not planning to vote
in November. Forty one million borne grand Christians will not vote,
thirty two million mainline Christians will not vote, And a
lot of them say it's it's Trump's personality. It's that
he doesn't support a national abortion band. But weirdly, some
might even vote for Kamala with some of the issues

(44:51):
that she does support. John, can you help our listeners
sort this out for us, maybe frame this issue and
what we're confronting in terms of maybe some voter apathy
that I didn't see coming.

Speaker 16 (45:04):
Sure, well, you know, a lot of what I hear
also is that, well, you know, I'm just gonna abstain
from voting, or I'm going to write in a third
party candidate.

Speaker 3 (45:14):
And I don't know.

Speaker 16 (45:14):
Somehow I think Christians feel like that's a way of
them doing their duty, when in fact they're they're throwing
their vote away, because, as we all know, voting for
a third party candidate or for someone that you've you know,
written in is you know, essentially a vote for the Democrats.

(45:35):
And if you're a Christian, if you claim to be
a faithful Christian, you you simply cannot vote for a.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Party that really is a death cult.

Speaker 16 (45:43):
And when it comes to abortion matters like that, they're
very pro infanticide, and I don't like to call it abortion,
it's it's more of a euphemism, it's really infanticide. So
as a as a professing Christian, there just isn't a
way to justify, either in action or worst case scenario,

(46:05):
voting for Harris, who's the representative of a party that
is very much in favor of pretty much everything that
God hates, that the Bible teaches that God hates. So
whether you plan on sitting on the couch or voting
for a third party member, you're you're not fulfilling Christ's

(46:26):
command to render under Caesar those things that are Caesar's John.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Has it always been this way or is this a
new trend that you've seen over the past couple of
election cycles.

Speaker 16 (46:37):
I don't think it's always been this way. I think
the Church, and of course we're using the word church
in Christian in its most broadest term, you know, has
become incredibly apathetic, I think, infected by materialism and and
you know all the worldly cares that Christ warned about,

(47:00):
talked about in the Book of Revelation to the Church
of leadicea right, he said essentially that you know, these
churches were dead and faithless and loveless. And I think
that is what we're seeing broadly speaking.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
In the in the in the Christian Church today.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
You know, religious liberties I feel are under constant assault
and threat with certainly with the leftists and the Democrats.
And and there's a secularization of this nation that's happened,
where fewer and fewer people are BiPOL and survey going
to church or regular church attendees. And then you have
this crazy moment in the campaign trail where Bill Clinton

(47:41):
talks about, you know, we have a deep popular we
don't have enough babies in America. We just don't have
enough babies. We're not, you know, so we have to
have it. We have to have illegal immigration because we
don't have enough babies. Maybe if if former President Bill
Clinton were sitting here standing here today and you heard
him say that. What would be your your answer to,
we don't have enough babies here in America, that's why

(48:03):
we need more immigration.

Speaker 16 (48:06):
Well, it doesn't have anything to do with more immigration.
In fact, I think you touched on it actually when
you're talking about secularization, and that all goes back to
cultural Marxism that we see infecting our quote unquote institutions
of higher learning. All this comes from critical race theory,
which is pure Marxism, and Marx wanted to separate people

(48:31):
from their religious faith because he wanted people to place
their faith in the government and in the government's ability
to save them and to provide a utopia here on earth.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
So if people were really concerned about.

Speaker 16 (48:46):
Or were really committed to their faith, then I think
they would in turn be committed to their families, to
the importance of the family, and that would increase our
birth rates here. You know, we're so concerned about care
about amassing material things, you know, all all these things
that are a product of the Bible being removed from

(49:07):
our public school system. It has caused an imbalance in
our society and has provided Democrats like Clinton to come
in and suggest, you know, these crazy alternatives. You know
that we need immigration as opposed to, you know, addressing

(49:28):
the cultural problems here here.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
First, we're talking with John Nancy's a columnist at town Hall,
also retired FBI agent. John, you're right, it is a
Christian civic duty mandated by Christ himself to engage with
the government. Talk about that a little bit more, if
you would, John, Yeah.

Speaker 16 (49:45):
Well, in Matthew twenty two, Christ says, and I think
most people are familiar with this phrase rendered Therefore, to
sees are the things that are Caesar's and.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
To God the things that are God's.

Speaker 16 (49:56):
And people read that or hear someone talk about it,
and they think, well, that just applies to me paying
my taxes, that's all that Jesus was talking about. Well,
if you read it in the context of that verse,
he's also talking.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
About rendering the things that are due to God.

Speaker 16 (50:11):
So obviously that's more than just if you're a Christian,
you understand the concept of paying a tithe or supporting
your church, right, so it means far more than that.
So rendering under Caesar means far more than just paying
your taxes. And under this form of government that we've
been bequeathed that is based on Judeo Christian principles, it

(50:32):
is it is your duty to engage with your government
to vote, I mean not to mention the sacrifice that
our servicemen and women, you know, they have paid in
toil and blood for that privilege to exercise that vote,
to be able to make that choice.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
So it is, it is straight out of Matthew twenty two.

Speaker 16 (50:56):
Anybody can go ahead, you know, can go and read
it for themselves. And in that context, obviously christ is
saying you need to fulfill your civic duties.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
So I'm gonna keep score here for for our for
my just for myself. Okay, President Trump, if he is
offending people's sensibilities and everything else, it assumes a lot
about other presidents in the past, or even candidates that
I don't think are consistent. But we do know this
about Trump because he has been president, so we have
two terms to compare to each other. He's the first

(51:28):
president to ever attend the National Right to Life Rally
in Washington, d C. He he chose Supreme Court justices
three of them that was and the result of doing
that was we saw the overturning of Rob Wade, which frankly,
I didn't know if i'd ever see in my lifetime.
When COVID came, he did. They ruled that this same
Supreme Court ruled that you can't keep Caesar's Palace open

(51:51):
and shut down Calvary's Church, and and and keep the
churches closed.

Speaker 4 (51:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
They continue to render decisions that I think protect our
right of faith through freedom of speech and other measures.
Aren't these doesn't that score? Doesn't that sheet show you
that you need a guy like Trump to go in
there and battle for us as well? I mean, don't
we have some wins out there that would make people
more willing to vote for him? And after a proven
term like he's.

Speaker 16 (52:15):
Had, well, you would certainly think though. But I think
the problem is that people simply aren't informed.

Speaker 17 (52:22):
Yea.

Speaker 16 (52:22):
You know, all they're seeing are the headlines that they
may take a glance at from kicktok or X or
CNN or you know whatever other legacy media they happen
to be turned tuned into, and of course they're they're
not going to hear those things. So, uh, it really
is an easy decision if you're in an if you're
an informed person, and as a Christian, you ought to

(52:44):
be an informed person. I don't agree with everything that
Trump says or does, but I don't agree with everything
that that that any president has said or done. And
I know it's kind of a cliche, but we're not
voting for a national pastor right where where we're voting
for the person that we think will most closely align

(53:05):
themselves with biblical principles. I mean, if you're coming from
that Christian perspective, that's really how you should be thinking.
And Kamala Harris is light years away from that obviously.
And Trump's not perfect.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
You know.

Speaker 16 (53:20):
I wrote an article a while back comparing him to Samson,
and Samson was far from perfect perfect.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
Samson had his you know, how shall we say, maybe.

Speaker 16 (53:30):
Lady troubles you like like like Trump has had. But
Samson was used of God, just like Trump during his
first term was used by God, in my opinion, you know,
to to get those really important Supreme Court justice appointments done.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
And we're we're seeing the fruits.

Speaker 16 (53:49):
Of that today and we'll see the fruits of that
for a long time to come to me, the choice
is clear.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
The choice should be clear.

Speaker 16 (53:57):
And if you're if you claim to be a faithful
Christian and you read Matthew twenty two. I don't know
how you can come to a different conclusion.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
John, great chatting with you. Appreciate you. I know we'll
have you back on the show in the future. Thanks
for joining us tonight.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
John, Hey, thank you very much. All right.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's John Nance, columnist, town Hall, retired FBI agent. The
message to vote Greg not only goes out to evangelicals,
he goes out to everybody. This is such an important election,
you know, we need what's the highest percentage of this
country has ever had in voter turnout? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Well, I take that back. The most votes ever accumulated
were the twenty election, where you have the winner get
eighty one million and the loser gets seventy four more.
We've never seen that, sixty five and sixty.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
I wonder what the turnout is the highest we've.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Ever had in percentage of people that get involved.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I don't, boy, you need to get involved this time. Well,
we're as of tomorrow, we're twenty one days away.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
I don't know how any one reads the four Gospels, Matthew,
Mark Luke and John Listens sees the pious Uh, you
know the outwardly symbols of faith that pharisees and statutes
express and show and condemn others of and not feel
a little bit of that. If you think you found
a person in Trump who's you can condemn, but you're
not looking at the rest of the world and those
that have been leaders and our leaders. It's it's I

(55:22):
never see I never get this from the everyday people.
It's always the political elite or the social elite that
have the biggest problem with Donald Trump. It's really and
then now surprisingly if you have this voter block that's
becoming apathetic of Christians, my goodness, I mean you are.
You cannot ignore what the left is doing to this
country and are trying to take away our ability to
worship according to our the dictates of our conscience.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
You can't do it all right more coming up on
the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Lady you
don't want oh five nine can right? A lot of
issues are taking centered stage of course here in this election.
Certainly immigration, the uh uh, the economy and crime is
another one and JD. Van spoke about that today.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah, in a campaign I want to plays for you,
folks at a campaign stop in Minneapolis, Minnesota. That is
Walls is you know the state.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
He's the governor.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
So they love going into the belly of the beast,
whether it's Coachella in California or into Minnesota. Senator Walls
was there today and he's standing in front of the
precinct that was burned down in Minneapolis with the police
officers who are endorsing and supporting Trump and Vance. Let's
have a listen to what he said. Is thirty seconds
of just truth bomb after truth bomb. Here we go.

Speaker 8 (56:33):
Do we want a kind of leader who stands with
the law enforcement, who fights for them, who protects their
lives as they go about keeping us safe? Or do
we want someone who encourages rioterers and looters to burn
down this precinct, who leaves the officers for dead, and
then a president who then bails out some of those
same rioters and louterers out of prison.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
I think we want the law and order president.

Speaker 8 (56:54):
We want somebody who stands with our law enforcement and
most importantly, who stands with the communities that depend.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
On law enforcement. And that means we want Donald J.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Trump as president.

Speaker 17 (57:02):
Person.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I'm telling you, so there you go. I mean, they
destroy it and then they're here to fix it. No,
Jade Vans is telling you they destroyed it and we
really don't need any more of them. Yeah, and so
I think it was a persuasive a visit and I
hope it gets a lot of attention.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
And that precinct has never been rebuilt or repair it
as they're still boarded up.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
It's boarded up and there's a fence around it so
people won't loot it or make it worse. So there's
a big fence around it. It's destroyed and not rebuilt,
and it's a it's a visually, it's a terrible thing
to see and seeing the members of the law enforcement
standing with him behind him as he speaks with that
in the backed up again, why would you ever want

(57:41):
as your president someone who put out on a GoFundMe
account for those that burned and destroyed that precinct help
them get out of jail. Why would you want as
the vice president the governor who allowed this to happen
and would not deploy the National Guard to protect them
and those officers in this In this visit, I spoke
to the media as well. They felt left alone, They
felt like they were left for you. I remember when
if jd Vance says that in that comment, he's getting

(58:03):
that from the comments that were said at that visit,
and as they felt that alone, they felt like they
had they had been given up on and were really
there by themselves.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
And they had been given up on. It'd be real,
that's not. The Wall Street Journal today had a real
interesting editorial, Greg, and they said there is a sleeper
issue out there in this in this election year that
may may in fact be the sleeper issue of this campaign. Now,
if you think about it, Greg, there's inflation or the economy,

(58:34):
there's immigration. Yes, we just talked about crime. What do
you think is a sleeper issue out there? Or do
you think it is a sleeper issue this year beyond those?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
I don't know. Just would it be as easy as
the contrast between is your life better no?

Speaker 17 (58:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Years ago? Well, that could be an issue. I think
that's a primary.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
Issue that takes all of them, and they can construy
transgender sports.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, sleeper, I mean it certainly is. I mean, if
you look at the Senate races in Ohio, in Texas,
in Montana, and in Wisconsin, they are running heavy ads
attacking the incumbents in those state or the Challenger in
Texas about their stand on letting boys playing girls sports,
and the editorial board says that may be the sleeper

(59:22):
issue in this year's election.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
Now that you say that, I've spent time in Pennsylvania
in this election cycle and in Nevada yet this last weekend,
and they are playing the commercial where Kamala Harris speaks
in favor of transgender surgery for an inmate, a male
inmate to be a female inmate, and then that person
went on to commit crimes inside the jail and everything else,
and then she stating her goal that she wants all

(59:46):
inmates to be able to have the ability to have
transgender surgeries. And that commercials playing a NonStop in both
those swing states of Pennsylvania and Nevada. From my observation
just going to those states and watching it, you're right
that issue is coming up. It's funny because cultural issues
don't usually get to be a front whether it's abortion
or even this issue. Cultural issues aren't culture war issues.

(01:00:09):
You usually aren't the front burner. But you wouldn't surprise
me if this is starting to really disturb people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Well, here's how the editorial ended it. Says this media conformity,
and the media is going along with all of this,
you know, is one reason the transgender sports issue is
catching Democrats by surprise, are they That's stupid to think
that people don't care about this issue. That's amazing. The
press portrays any dissent on the issue as out of

(01:00:35):
political bounds and gives it no coverage or dismisses it
as benighted bias what millions of Americans view as common sense.
Boy do we talk about this. This means voters may
hear about it only when a politician makes it a
campaign issue, and it might cost Democrats control of Congress
this year. You've got those four senators right there. I mean,

(01:00:57):
most people are expecting tests to go down in Montana.
Baldwin's in trouble, but West Virginia, Justice, West Virginia is
in trouble. And now you heard reports today that Bob
Casey may be in trouble in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
That would be that would be the big That would
be such a shock, and I would love for that
to be the case.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
The best the best way to know that this issue
is powerful is just look at our governor when he
was first elected, he he vetoed the bill that would
ban boys from playing girl sports and boy the very
next then our legislature immediately overrode that veto, but the
next year he signed into law the banning of any
transgender surgeries. So he went from you can't ban a

(01:01:36):
boy from playing girl sports too, We're going to ban
this transgender surgery for minors. So I think you know,
they saw the teeley. They saw that this is not
this is not even hard for for every everyday Yukon's
or Americans. This is not And so for the for
the Democrats and the regime media to still not get
that memo doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Well, and Greg, think about it, those senators and those
congressmen are a lot closer tos than Donald Trump or
Kamala Harris are, and they have to face the wrath
of those voters every two or six years, depending on
the race. And I tell you what I think, can
I think those challenging people like Sherick Brown and Baldwin
and Wisconsin are really smart to bring this issue up

(01:02:17):
and put their opponent on the record as to where
they stand on this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Well, I think at least should get some Christian voters
that it might be going to stay at home to
get up and go out there and vote.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Vote. All right, more coming up, final half hour the
Rod and Greg Show here on Utah's Talk radio one
o five nine kN rs. We call it the Rod
and Greg Show right here on Talk radio one oh
five nine. Can't ask why you're laughing at me?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Well, you ready called the ro Kets Show. Well you
notice how I just yeah, you're nimble, very very nimbleleimble.

Speaker 1 (01:02:47):
Yeah. I've done this for a while, you know, very nimble.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
You're very yeah, very yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I appreciate that. Jesse Kelly, by the way, coming your
way at the top of the hour, following our news
update married here on Talk radio one on five nine
n es.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Yeah, let's continue the discussion we were having earlier about Well,
it's a good it's an interview in and of itself,
but it will touch on we intend to have a
touch on this staggering statistic. I think that the Christians
in America might not be going to the polls, they
might be apathetic this year. I didn't think that was
going to be the case. Someone who's pretty lucky that

(01:03:24):
we had Donald Trump as president. We had a strong
Supreme Court is joining us on the program. Coach Joe Kennedy.
There's a new movie about the average Joe. Joe Kennedy's
is the high school football coach that would at the
after the games have a prayer and it was fired
for and was told he can never do it, and
he took exception of that. And turns out the Supreme

(01:03:45):
Court agreed with him and said that's free speech and
you're allowed to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
They told him he could do it off the field.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
The funny thing about it was real funny. He never
asked any players to join him at the end of
a game. He would just go to midfield, take an
and thank the Lord for the game, for the talent
of these young men. And as player saw him do it,
more and more players came to join them. He never
asked them, and then the school got upset because one
person made a complaint. Change the thing. Well, Joe is

(01:04:14):
on our Newsmaker line right now. Joe, thank you for
joining us tonight on the Rod and Greg Show. I
want to get your reaction. We talked about this just
a few minutes ago. Why aren't Christians people of faith
voting in this year's election. What do you think going on, Joe?
And how important is it that they vote a.

Speaker 17 (01:04:30):
Bunch of people in their necks?

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
But that's the right answer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
But it's an answer I would expect from.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
A good guy. What are your thoughts on what's going on? Coach?
With a Christian vote?

Speaker 17 (01:04:44):
I see, I really don't understand that, because I somewhere
in the Bible, I think God gave us the meanion
over this earth, and I think we've done a kind
of a poor job of it as of late. And
I think most people are just sitting around trying to
wait for, you know, maybe Jesus to come back and
save us. All, well, it's our earth. God made it
for us and put us over charge of it. Why

(01:05:04):
are we not being involved in it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
It?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
We absolutely need to vote.

Speaker 17 (01:05:09):
For the people that are going to be leading our
country because we want them to lead our country with
the right morals and standards that we expect people to
have here in America.

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
You know, it's almost, it's almost not almost. It is
disorienting to think that you had to go through such
a battle, your job, your livelihood because you'd bring these
high school football players together after a game to huddle
and pray at the fifty yard line, thanking them for
health and everything that occurred. And there's a great legacy
to that. You didn't invent it, it's something that happens.
I was just at an NFL game yesterday where all

(01:05:41):
the players after the game. I know it's not a school,
but they came together on the fifty yard line to pray.
They knelt. How did you It's easy to look in
hindsight and say, yeah, that's obvious, but at the time
you went through this, how did you feel? And how
did you have the determination to take this to the
Supreme Court? Because it's such an important distinction to make

(01:06:01):
that that is a right that should have never happened.
What happened you should have never happened. But what sustained
you to get you to basically help all of us
by getting this all the way to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:06:12):
I was in disbelief originally because I thought this was
a huge mistake.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
This is a fifteen second prayer.

Speaker 17 (01:06:18):
And so I sat with the school and when they
told me just stop praying with the kids and everything
should be fine, I did that and no problem, you know,
But then they said, oh, well, we just still see you,
And that's where I had my rub word. They said,
we'll give you someplace that you had to go do
your prayers. And I as an American, because I was
an American way before I became a Christian, and you

(01:06:41):
know that just rubbed me the wrong way. There was
no way I was going to let them take away
our First Amendment rights because somebody was uncomfortable with it.
That's taken everybody's rights away, not just a Christian, but everybody's.
So I was in total disbelief and I didn't even
want this fight. It wasn't until they were lawyers, the
school district lawyers gave me a letter said I wasn't

(01:07:02):
to contact the school anymore unless I had an attorney.
And that's just that where people can't talk as Americans
today over it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Coach, what kind of support did you get from the
parents of the kids that played for you? Were they
how much support did you get from the parents or
were they afraid to even speak out?

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Coach?

Speaker 17 (01:07:20):
Yeah, they spoke out. They were at every board meeting,
they came to the games and force or signs, and
there were so many people that were just one hundred
percent on our side, thinking this is the most ridiculous
thing in the world. Of course, you got your one
percenters out there, but you know, I mean, ninety nine
nine percent of the people were for us and on

(01:07:42):
our side. So yeah, it was an uphill battle for
I thought for the school district. But yeah, the court
system we all messed up. That is in America. So yeah,
the community loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
So here's my question again, I go back to this
your I mean, it looks like no matter what they
look like, they outgunned you. They out you know, they
outnumbered you in terms of those that were telling you
you can't work, you can't do this, and you and
you fought through that. What's your message to Americans and
Utah's right now who see things in their schools that

(01:08:16):
are contrary to their conscience, to their faith, but are
being they're being told this is normal, this is You're
the problem. You're the one that's at fault. What would
be your message to them, being that you've gotten through
this and you've actually created important legal precedent that these
things are established. What would you tell someone that's going
through the madness of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 17 (01:08:38):
Yeah, well, you said it very well with we have
the law on our site now and the way that
the Supreme Court labeled it that you do have the
freedom of speech and the freedom of religion, and it's
live and well in America and you have that right
to exercise those and it's backed up now. But we
need to reprogram our people. I just I just want
people to just stay in the fight and stand up

(01:09:01):
for what is right. It's the most simplest thing to do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
We know what is right.

Speaker 17 (01:09:05):
But just turning a blind eye to things and just
giving in, that's that's not the right thing to do.
That's not what we want to teach our kids. That's
not the way we want to set examples for people
around us. We're called to fight the good fight, finish
a raise, and remain faithful. It doesn't say anywhere that
we have to win it, but we have to fight
it because God's got that victory. So man, do what's right.

(01:09:26):
It's so simple.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
We're talking right now with coach Joe Kennedy. He's got
you know, many of you may know him, may not
recognize the name, but he was the coach in Washington
State who fought the battle with the school district, a
case that eventually went to the Supreme Court for the
right to pray. Joe, You've got a new movie out.
It's called Average Joe. That's what you always like to
call yourself. You're just an average Joe. I mean what

(01:09:48):
you know, when someone approached someone approached you obviously and
said we should make a movie out of this story,
what were your initial thoughts.

Speaker 17 (01:09:56):
I thought these guys were.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
High to.

Speaker 17 (01:10:00):
I was like, man, I mean, that's just the weirdest
thing in the world he could possibly think of, because
I mean, that's just my life. They heard my testimony
and heard my backstory from I wanted, I was un
wanted at childbirth, and you know, through the poster system
and stuff, and how God he is the most least
likely person to fight this fight. And they were just

(01:10:22):
inspired by it, and they said we could really inspire others.
I didn't see it at the time because it's just me.
But man, God put all that together just beautifully.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
Joe Kennedy, thank you. What a nice man. We've had
Joe on the show before a long time ago, when
the story first broke about his brain and his battle,
and he just hung in there and he said, I'm
not backing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Down, No, I do commend him, and I'll tell you,
I think he said he was American before he was
a Christian. So and he has that beautiful perspective of
just you know, guys like him, guys like me, we
need religion. It's a really good thing for us. We
need you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, far from perfect. The
doctors needing to stay in the hospitals, they're not going

(01:11:02):
to where all the people are already healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
They need us, they need do that's right. Has the
Times already endorsed Kama I think they.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
I think they might have, and I think the Times
New York Times has already. But their bottom line is
that you have to take the four years of one
president's term next to the four years of the other
administration's term. And it really isn't a decision once you
do that. It's it's the are you better off than
you were four years ago? Nobody really can answer that
question as to being yes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Remember last week, after we saw that bizarre video of
Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of New Hampshire, mocking the Catholic faith,
and I was getting after Catholic saying where are you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
Yeah, Well, the Catholic lead has now stepped up and
they are demanding an apology from after that video mocking Communion.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
It was disgusting, it was and really i've already heard
her partial answers. I didn't know. That's not what I meant. Yeah,
you know what it's then you should you're a governor,
you should know what you're doing is mocking Holy Communion.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
And if you've seen any of the clips, I don't
watch the show, Saturday Night Live is having a field
day with Kamala Harris, you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Know, Howard's Howard as much as Howard Stern has begged
them to stop doing it because he's so afraid it's
going to persuade people Trump. I didn't watch it, but
I heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:20):
Some of the clips they did, they did the they
did the family Feud take and it's so funny.

Speaker 10 (01:12:26):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
And you've got I don't know her name who plays
Kamala and does a great job. You've got Dana Carvey,
who I think is playing Biden. You've got an actor
who's playing Doug m Hoff. Jim Gaffigan is playing is
playing Timmy Timmy Wallas and he does he does a
perfect job with him. They are having a field day
with Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
You know what that's and comedy should be equal opportunity.
Just rip on everyone, make it that. Then everyone's guards down.
You can laugh at each other, you laugh at your
but fun.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
That does it for us tonight, Head up, shoulders back.
May God bless you and your family and this great
country of ours. Rod and Gregg back with you tomorrow,
and four enjoy the evening.

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