The Rod and Greg Show: Are Youth Sports Hurting Families? Defunding NPR and PBS

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Speaker 2 (01:51):
So we invite you to come on by. We've got
a lot to talk about today. There's a new study
out on the impact of defund the police what that
has meant. We'll talk about the Trump efforts to get
rid of NPR and PPS. We totally support that. We'll
also get into something that you're you're passionate about. And
there was an article written to parents for them to

(02:11):
stop sacrificing their children on the altar of youth sports. Yes, yeah,
we're gonna We're gonna get into that racket. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
And I love sports, and I love our kids being
involved in sports. And I'm telling you it's a racket.
We gotta we gotta start watching this racket out there.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We'll get into that and changes, of course, but the
big news of the day is the hockey club has
a name.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I kind of like the name. Do you like it?

Speaker 1 (02:36):
I do?

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I think it's unique.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Not Mammoth's mammoth. You tam mammoth.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Angular Okay to mammoth.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
No, it's really good. I you know. They they have
a promotional video. It's really cool. They they put the
colors that I like, the way they described how they
did it. They they they let me see where it
is that they use the salt white, salt white, sky blue,
and then rock black, rock mountain black.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Mountain black, yeah, b yeah, yeah, no, it's.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
And then they have all the different variations of it.
The mammoth. It's it's just it's a it's a smart logo.
I sent it to my cousin in Pittsburgh, and you know,
Pittsburgh's had all of its names of its teams forever players. Yeah,
so it's hard when you you know, he's thinking, wow,
that's tough to come up with a name for a
new sports franchise, and he gave it a double thumbs up.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
It really yeah, he thought.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
When I heard it today, you know, you and I
had talked about we kind of favored out Laws.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, I kind of like that kind of outlaws.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
But I understand what they're trying to do here, and
I do like it.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah, I do. I like it. And you know what,
whether it was meant to or not, mammoths look a
lot like uh, elephants and Elephants are Republicans. So I
think there of the Utah Republicans, that's what I think
we got. I think we got a bunch of Utah.
But when they say tusks up, I'm just gonna assume
they mean vote republic.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Why do we get a sense of Ryan Smith is
not a Republican. I don't know, man, I just kind
of thinking that. I don't know that for sure. I'm
just speculating.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Bring them along, we can help them. Can we can
teach them? You know, that's what we do on the show.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well, I think you know. I mean, the Big Boss
was in town today. Gary Bettman, the commissioner of the NHL,
was here for the announcement today. I think right now
Utah has done a great job. We're on the edge of,
I think an explosion of the interest in hockey around
the country.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
It is. I'm telling you that these already, the Stanley
Cup playoffs have just been amazed, amazing. You're seeing more
goals than you ever usually see. I think the ratings
are up. I think the game is more exciting than that.
What's that game they play with the ball?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
All the basketball basketball?

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I think NBA is still a thing. I'm not really sure,
but I hear rumor of it, but I think hockey's
taken over. NHL hockey's certainly taken over. And then our
team got in the lottery, we get the fourth.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Overall, we'll get a very good young players.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Fourteenth were Yeah, we're gonna get a great team. Anyway,
I'm excited.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Hey, you know what I'm excited about too, Greg is
you're starting to see this didn't happen years ago, but
you're starting to see college hockey. Yes, that's feeding in
more great players to play in the NHL, and I
love seeing that. I mean, I think the two or
three top picks this year are coming from like Boston University,
Boston College, Denver University, some of the real powerhouses. They've

(05:10):
been like that in college hockey for a long long time.
But the NHL is starting to recognize the talent in
college hockey and they're bringing it up. So that makes
it exciting as well.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, the rumor is that the NHL drafts is a
little thin this year, but there's five superstars and we
get the fourth pick, so we're kind of in that
first round. Yeah, we have a good shot at a
superstar or he could trade the mammoth could trade that
pick for an existing superstar to kind of bolster the team.
So either way, I'm telling you things look good for

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our club.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
The logos look good. Yes, the uniforms, I think look
really good.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Have you seen the U You have the tusk, the
tusk in it.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
They'll be like, what mascot? They got to come up
with a mascot?

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, I think the jazz Bear has the young.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Jazz Bear's guy, get out of the way. You gotta
get the bear. The bear would be easily beaten by
a man.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah, mammoths can be.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
They got to find a big elephant or something.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah, big Republican elephants. I'm telling you, I'm just gonna
just I'm just gonna torture every Democrat friend I have
by just saying it's the Utah Republican.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Did mammoths roam the earth in Utah?

Speaker 1 (06:13):
That's what it set it in front of it. Well,
I'll just take their word for it.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Should anybody appaleing intelligence out there who can tell us
that we have.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
The list audience, that we have the smartest listening audience.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
So oh okay, okay. Howl was saying that, yeah, they.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Were around around here there around perfect.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
So that's pretty cool. But I think it's a good
move on the part of the hockey team. I think
it is creating an exciting, exciting year next year for
the Utah Mammoth and UH And have they started construction
inside the Delta Center to make it a little more
hockey friendly? Have they started that as well?

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Okay, yes, And I think it's a is it a
three year deal?

Speaker 2 (06:51):
I think it's gonna take up two or three years.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
It's donning phases between the at the end of the
NBA season and NHL season before it begins in October.
I think they they're gonna do as much work as
they can in the meantime, take over three seasons to
do it. But it's going to increase the the capacity
and also the sitelines.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
The sidelines are very important. So we went to the game,
you and I and we had great sidelines. I don't
know if I dare go to a game.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Oh man, and at your end of the road where
I can smack that plex glass.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
You're hitting the plexiglass, You're yelling at players, you're shouting
obscenities at the refs.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
No, that's that Part's not true, folks, but I did.
I was hitting the PLEXI glass, I was. I was
in a very happy ye.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
Well, we are on the road today, and congratulations to
the Utah Mammoth. Great name. I think the fans are
going to get behind this. It's gonna be a lot
of fun.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Very excited.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
We just got hats that said Utah Hockey Club off.
We gotta get new hats.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's all right. We have more than one.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
You can have more than one, can you? That's that's
how it works' know that didn't know that? All right,
We've got a lot to get to today. You know, Greg,
after the after the what happened in the death of
George Floyd there in Minneapolis, what in the spring the
spring of twenty twenty, Momorial Day weekend, something like that,
wasn't it? You know, there was his effort around the
country to defund police and to get you know, to
tell police. It made a lot of sense in the

(08:06):
world as well, or really did it. Well, a new
study is out and it's showing the results of defund
the police efforts in some of our major cities. And
joining us on our Newsmaker line right now to talk
about that is Jason Johnson. He's president of the Law
Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. Jason, thanks for joining us this afternoon.
What does the study show give us some of the
highlights of you would Jason, Well, so.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
What we did was we looked at the impact of
policing on crime reduction. I mean, essentially, that's what we
have here. So in the period of time immediately following
the George Floyd riots protests around June of twenty twenty,
murder rates in cities across America really spiked, and at

(08:49):
the very same time we saw drastic reductions and proactive policing.
We measure that by the number of arrests and stops
by police officers in these cities, and so are what
we an was that factor across fifteen cities, and it's
and then the rebirth of proactive policing.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
It's much more recent than that, you know, beginning.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
Depending on which city you look at, sometime in twenty
one or twenty two, in some cases even as late
as twenty three, where we see police re engaged out there,
you know, proactively enforcing law. And as we see that increase,
we see the homicide rate decrease at roughly the same
proportion depending on the city.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Do you think that this whole movement to defund the police,
do you think that the political heft to get this done.
Was this all done by people who had all lived
in safe neighborhoods, maybe had fences around their neighborhoods or
in their communities and never felt threatened. Or do you
think that there was a buy off from urban America
and the citizens there that they should defund the police.

(09:52):
What what inspired the defund the police movement?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, I can tell you with a great deal of
confidence that it's the former. The defund movement was largely
by people who had no real stake in the quality
and intensity of policing in urban America and the people
who and I can tell you this for sure because
not only have we looked at surveys that indicate this,

(10:16):
but I could tell you in my policing experience that
was always the case that the people in the communities
that were most impacted were most interested in good quality
and intensive policing. And so yes, absolutely, all these calls
came from elite people who had lots of money and
live behind the gate and have security, and the people
who were left defense for themselves are the ones that

(10:36):
really paid the price.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
We're talking right now with Jason Jensen. He is president
of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. Jason, on this study,
I mean, what has changed because I remember for a
good year, maybe a year and a half after the
George Floyd killing up there in Minneapolis, his death that
caused all of this, that police were looked down on,
police were having trouble recruiting. Have have things change for

(11:01):
law enforcement? And why have they changed? If, in fact,
if they did.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
Well, some things have changed and others happened. So what
we have seen that we can point to our study
and what we demonstrate is that proactive policing has returned
in many cities, not every city. So if we look
at a place like Seattle, it has not come back
at all, and I would say argue as a result,
the level of violence in Seattle has remained high, historically
high for Seattle. In other cities, it has rebound in

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cities like New York, and there are other examples where
where you know, the proactive policing measured by officers going
out and actually enforcing the law, has come back and
the violence has come down. The recruiting challenges persist, however,
and you know, there's not a police department in America
that isn't struggling to some degree with recruiting, you know,

(11:50):
high quality men and women into the ranks. Morale is
still struggling, and so we need to see some of
those other things like recruiting and morale come up until
we can say that we're really healed from that moment
in time. But at least in some cities, and the
ones that we looked at, i'd say the majority of
those cities, the vast majority of those cities, we are

(12:12):
seeing policing come back. And so that's the pendulum has
started to come back, I guess, is the best way
to look at it.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
So I think here in Salt Lake City, we had
the same thing. We had riots in twenty twenty. We
had Democrats and if you can imagine in Salt Lake
City that were disparaging the police, and it was very ugly,
and they went to zero based budgeting and you saw
police budgets cut severely, crime went up, crime went crazy,
and then they went on a hiring spree and they

(12:40):
went and they've they've been trying to hire as many
police officers as they can and so now you're seeing
what your report, what your study shows is that the
crime's going down, things are restoring. However, there's been no
accountability to the elected so called leaders who got us
in this mess in the first place. And I wonder,
is there anywhere in America where they tried this social
experiment and they failed so miserably and now they're actually

(13:02):
trying to make up for what they did. Are they
losing their elections anywhere? Because in Salt Lake City, it's
like that, it's as if it never happened. They just
move on.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, it's it's people have short memories. Unfortunately, voters have
very short memories. And it's uh, it's our job as
as as advocates for law enforcement to remind them. And
and and this study, I think the outcome of this
study and it's really it's in the data. Uh, you know,
we got the data from all of these cities. We
just charted. We just showed on a graph exactly how

(13:33):
the data plots out. And so are our hope from
looking at the results of this is that people, including voters,
including the media will look at it and say, hey,
this is really what happened. It was a result of
policies put in place by elected, largely elected public leaders.
But I will say this on the prosecutor front, which
is another element.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, you know that.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
You know, obviously uh Soros and Soros interests have installed
prosecutors across the country that aren't interested in prosecuting criminals.
Some of these cities, some of the cities that we
looked at, in addition to changes in police attitudes and productivity,
you know, we can look at the change of prosecutors.
Some cities it's more significant than in others, But places
like Baltimore, Chicago, d C. Very recently Los Angeles recently

(14:19):
have replaced their progressive prosecutors with more traditional prosecutors. In
the case of DC, it happens to be not an
elected prosecutor, but one appointed by the president. The Biden
prosecutor was very weak on crime. The Trump prosecutor is
very strong on crime, and so DC is looking good
as a result. So on the prosecutor front, I think

(14:41):
voters tend to hold prosecutors accountable for crime, perhaps more
than even mayors, even though they should and council members.
So your point is very well taken in that everyone
just kind of forgot and moved on, So.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I haven't I have forgotten. I'm gonna tell you, Jason,
final quick question for you. Are you optimistic that more
changes will take place now that you have Donald Trump
in the White House and his efforts against crime?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I am, and you know even beyond that, I mean, certainly,
President Trump has been extraordinarily strongmentally on fighting crime, enforcing
immigration laws and the like. But it's supporting law enforcement,
supporting the men and women of law enforcement, both in
word and deed, and so that goes a far away.
But of course, part of our criminal justice system is

(15:27):
still operated by the states and under the control of governors, mayors,
city council members, prosecutors. But I do think that the
moral leadership of the president does matter, and I think
we are starting to see changes not only in different
kinds of prosecutors being elected, but hopefully in the future,
different kinds of mayors being elected, seeing changes in attitudes

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even of police chiefs and other leaders in law enforcement
that they're they recognize that the tide is shifting and
that all of a sudden, even the majorities of the
public are more focused on traditional law enforcement.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
He's the president of the law enforcement, legal defense, fund
Jason Johnson joining us on our any our Newsmaker line,
talking about study showing the defunding the police actually result
to do more crime and more killings. Yea, thus.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Stunned, right, Yes, I'm just shot stuns.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
There's been a lot of talk since Donald Trump got
back into office about the defunding of NPR and PBS.
But what is the real story behind all of this?
Joining us on our any our Newsmaker line to talk
about it is our good friend David Harzani, an author
senior writer at The Washington Examiner. David, how are you
welcome to the Rotting Greg Show. Well, thanks for having me. David.

(16:43):
Let me ask you. You're right that there's more to
it than just a bias, and that's one of the
arguments being made. But there's a lot more to it.
What is the underlying truth about NPR and PBS?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
David, Well, I should preface this by saying they definitely
are biased.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't want to Oh yeah, yeah, that's r.

Speaker 4 (17:03):
But I mean it's also it's also an antiquated model
to give them money. I mean, MPR is incredibly successful, right,
they have tons of podcasts and they have around one
thousand stations, and they for the most part appeal to
upper middle you know, upper middle class and wealthy people,
and they should have they should pay for their own entertainment.

(17:25):
I mean, there's nothing there, and you know there's nothing
there too. How can I say uphold the charge that
it was originally given? So for instance, in nineteen sixty nine,
mister Rogers, you know, was saying this when I was
a kid, gave a speech to the Senate, you know,
for more money, and they gave it to him. Because
most people only had three stations, for instance, in television
maybe five, so there wasn't a lot of educational programming.

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But now there are in programming for kids. But now
you have stations just for kids, many of them, and
you could, you know, you can watch anything you want.
So it's just even if it wasn't biased, I think
it would be ridiculous to keep giving them money because
they don't need it. I mean, they're huge enterprises, so so.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
You know, and I think that you're right, it is outdated.
And I was a mister Rogers kid. I think I
learned my alphabet from Sesame Street. I learned how to
be nice for mister Rogers. I mean, I was formative
years for me for sure, and at times have absolutely changed.
The part that's shocking to me is that PBS, for
as biased as they have been, almost unapologetically, are now saying, oh, no, no, no,

(18:28):
we're very independent. I mean you have Paula Kerger, who's
the CEO of PBS, She's saying that they're very responsive
to their community, They're very independent. These are things that
I can't track, but one study showed that their gender
ideology stories ninety percent plus of the airtime they gave
to this one issue was the leftist view and the

(18:48):
opinion of the left, not the right. So let me
ask you, can they defend themselves? I mean, this is
taxpayers without regard to their political affiliation. When you have
it so solidly left of center and content PBS News ANDPR,
is there argument are they selling this as anyone buying
what they're selling right now? Or is this are we

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going to see this maybe done away with because it's
old and antiquated.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well, I mean, imagine the whole infrastructure of public television
and public radio is built by democrats. It was a
law pastor in Johnson's time, and it is run by Democrats,
and it is and has been the champion of democratic
where I should say, rather left wing liberal values forever,
you know, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt
about it.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Everyone knows that's true.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
If they were had conservative values on there, they would
have lost their funding in the seventies already or something.
I mean, don't get me wrong. There's occasional show William
Buckley had a show firing line for many years there,
but for the most part that's not the case. And
when I watch it and it has some good stuff on,
you know, it's always kind of integrated or embedded with
some kind of leftist message, like ninety nine percent of

(19:54):
the time, and that's what they want to do. That's fine.
I just don't think that someone just you should have
to help pay for it, so, you know, I mean
just I always think about the reverse. It just would
never never happen. And on one hand, they say, oh,
it's not a lot of money, why do you care, Well,

(20:14):
it's not a lot of money, then you don't need it, right,
I'm sure. I think it's around eight to thirteen percent.
You can raise eight eight to thirteen percent putting a
few commercials on there, you know, let some of the
you know, while you're watching your you know, chrusty British
you know, melodrama or whatever that's on there, you know,
you'll you'll see a fast food commercial or something. I mean,
that's what we rest of us have to do, and

(20:35):
we survive, and there's no reason for it to be
any other way.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
I don't think David, when I think you point out
it was I think it was nude gangrig When he
was Speaker of the House, he first brought up this
idea many many years ago the Washington Post that he
was trying to kill big Bird. Why are politicians so
reluctant to say enough enough, you can go on your
own good luck and do well.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
Well, this, this whole idea comes from the Great Society,
and they're there. That's what they still defend, you know,
in a way they wanted whenever the more government is
involved in these things, the better. But let I would
even reverse it and say to ask someone this, like,
would you so Donald Trump can only threaten these people
because they take money. Now, if they acquiesced to him

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and mollified him, I wouldn't like that either.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I don't want.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
People listening or being under the thumb of politicians in
any way. So it's the whole. It doesn't even make sense.
We have so many news outlets. I'll give you another example.
I was watching I was watching I forget what it's
called Pedos News Hour maybe or something, and they had
a Republican on there and a Democrat and the Republicans
David Brooks. Now, David Brooks is a smart guy, but
he definitely doesn't represent mainstream conservative views anymore. So I

(21:47):
don't even think their audience understands what half the country's thinking.
The president is Donald Trump, and they don't have a
single person on to explain to their viewers what people
voted for him are thinking or how they what they believed.
That's the problem for sure.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Sure is David is always pleasure to have me on
the show. Thank you and enjoy the rest of the day,
you too, Thank you all right on our any our
newsmaker line. That's David Arzani, Author, senior writer, Washington Examiner.
I've been saying this for a long long time, Greg, PBS, NPR,
they could make it on their own. Just get into
the marketplace, compete with the rest of us, and don't

(22:22):
use my taxpayer dollars my taxes to support your very
liberal views.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Absolutely. In fact, I just looked it up because I
remembered this. It was in my buying somewhere. NPR Firedjan
Williams fired him because back in twenty ten, twenty ten,
and he had made a stated an opinion about nine
to eleven and who sponsored it that NPR didn't like,
and they gave him the boot. So he wasn't left

(22:49):
enough for them. He wasn't left oh one Williams of
all people, so amazing. Yeah, they have a history, you know,
and we know what it is.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
All right, more coming up on the Roden Gregg Show.
Should we mention this to the new superintendent of police
in New Orleans. It's called get a clue?

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Okay, So she's we're happy to help.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, she's brand new. Right, your name is An Kirkpatrick.
She was in a parade the New Orleans Jazz and
Heritage Festival over the weekend. Right, you know what she
rode in the parade? What a golf cart that looked
like a pig.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
And what would be the reason for that?

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Apparently now a pig is a derogatory term that activists
use against police.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Right, Mmm, so she was being rude.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, she didn't intend to, but she didn't think very much,
you know, because apparently the pig belonged to some barbecue
place that she wanted to help out advertise in this parade.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
So she was just a little tuned down.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, a little little kind of get a clue.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
You got to ask that nowadays because a lot of
the a lot of the mayors don't like the police,
remember that, like the defund the police.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
But it's the police chief.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
No, yeah, that's right. So I thought you said it
was the mayor, not the it's the police superintendent.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
She's the police chief to New Orleans.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Well, you know what, they might not like their own people.
You never know, you can't win to the left. You
don't know she if she's on the left. You have
no idea. It could be she could just resent them all.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
She's writing in a pig shaped golf cart.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, I think that's a I just don't think that's
gonna go over. Well, no, how did they even let
her in. It couldn't anyone around her. They could say,
you know.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
She doesn't look that good. Yeah, that doesn't look really good.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
No, they weren't able to bunch of amen corners over there.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
All right, Coming up in the five o'clock hours, we
continue our broadcast from Manking Go Tour. We'll talk about
sacrificing your family at the altar of sports. You have
an opinion on this idea, and we've got to get
into the pride pride flag thing because the law takes
effect today and Salt Lake City went, we're going to
ignore you.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Well, they decide they're going to take whatever flag if
they have any history to the flag of Saltla City.
I haven't paid attention enough to Salt Lake City to
know how long standing their flag is. But that one's out.
It's in the trash. She did got four now, yeah,
they got four flags.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
More plays. All right, we'll talk about all of that
with you as we continue with our live broadcast from
Making Tour. Come on buy and say, I you know
it's interesting now about we were talking about this a
little bit yesterday, how the attention of the news media,
the legacy Moody news media has drastically fallen off over
the Garcia guy. Yeah, Marilyn Man, the Marylynd man.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
It was just barbecuing in his backyard before you know,
Ice came in here.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, someone picked up on this today. I saw this
tweeted out that ABC News is no longer calling him
the Maryland Man. They now calling him the Salvadoran man
where he came from.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
That would makes sense, and they don't do that on
their own. There's no they have no conscience. So what
they're doing is that they're they're you know, they're polling,
and their market research is showing that they are just
losing the four listeners or TV watching that they have
right now, viewers they had.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Well, I'm wondering, Greg, right now, how many either mom
or dad are in the car iving their son or
daughter to a soccer event, a baseball game, a basketball practice, dance, recitttle,
you name it. How many of them do you think
are doing that right now?

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Everyone? Everyone, it's a lot.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
You've been through this. I've been through it. But our
next guest is joining us because she says we need
to stop sacrificing our family at the altar of youth sports. Yes,
you have some issues with this.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
I do. This will be an interesting discussion and I
do think that we all live through this, and I
think sports is really important for kids. I think this
adversity and overcoming it, and there's so much good from sports,
but we're human beings and of course nobody can ever
moderate anything. We have to just go overboard, and so
that's why that's what we're here to talk about.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Her name is Diane Schrader. She has a blogger said
called she Speaks Truth, and she's talking about sports and
youth sports right now. Diane, thanks for joining us on
any our newsmaker line around. Now, Diane, what is going
on when it comes to parents and youth sports and involvement?

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Well, I guess I do think that it is a
culture thing, and we do.

Speaker 7 (27:01):
I think that one of the things that I said
in my article is that we kind of worship sports,
and you know, we make the best of them, celebrities
and superstars and and kids look up to them, and
I don't you know it, it's a cultural thing.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
And that's that's a whole nother discussion.

Speaker 7 (27:21):
That we could talk about whether that's a good idea
or about idea, but it is what it is, and
that being the case, kids are going to want to
do those sports. You know, I had a child who
who watched something happen on the Olympics and told me
that she was going to win the gold medal in
that sport, and that stayed in her head for a

(27:43):
very long time, just on the basis of watching it unfold,
because of the drama and the pageantry and the excitement,
and it's that's all real, and kids want to be
a part of that. And I think then parents, to
some extent, I think they legitimize this by by well

(28:06):
obtaining lessons for things and taking kids to various sports
and maybe taking them to a lot of different things
so that they can experience which sports are best for
them or what they excel at. But ultimately it seems
to be something that we feel like the kids have
to I've heard parents also, you know, say hey, they

(28:27):
can get a scholarship to college. This is what I've
had parents tell me. You know, we're aiming for a scholarship.
That's why, that's why he's doing this sport, because we
need to get him his college paid for. And that's
a legitimate concern obviously, with college costs being what they are.
But nevertheless, most of the kids are not going to
But all of that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether

(28:48):
they win on Olympic medal or whether they get a
full ride scholarship someplace.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
What matters is the person they are and who they become.
And because we all know the.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Most important thing in life isn't necessarily a personal accomplishment,
it's our relationships, it's our family, it's the people who
love us and that we love, and that is a
that whole part of your life takes such a hit
when you give it all up for sports, and it
applies to anything you could give it all up for
if your child is a piano prodigy or something like that.

(29:21):
But as I said in the article, in our culture,
sports is just huge, and there's so many to choose from,
and some of them are very easy entry level.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
You know, you don't have to pay a lot of
money to.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Get started, but before you know it, you're taking quite
a hit to your wallet as well as to your schedule.

Speaker 6 (29:40):
So it is just part of who we are in
the United States right now.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I think, yes, and Diane, I really appreciate the article
because you give it. You give a great narration of
maybe at the highest levels where you have a child
who is succeeding or you're putting as a family a
lot of commitment to that child's athletic ability, giving them
every opportunity. You have other children, and this isn't your
story alone, this is just what I sense from your

(30:05):
story is this is what you're seeing. This is what happens.
There's other children in a family. There's all these dynamics
that happen. But I'm so I see that, and I
think it's good for people to read and realize it
could actually for all the champions. You see, there's a
lot of families that really struggle or are permanently harmed
by a pursuit like that. Then you have the other
side of the spectrum where you I might have kids

(30:25):
that are growing up in neighborhoods and areas where none
of the parents are all working. Nobody can take them
to practice, no one can take pay the fees, they
can't get their kid into the sport. And I actually
our family is very very into sports. Are My children
played sports in high school and I was a coach
and all that. So I think there's a role. Is
there just a moderation? Is there just a way we

(30:45):
can just balance out and level out. We don't have
to stay away from sports or something, but we and
we don't have to go crazy over it. Is there
some thought you would give or recommendation you would give
to a family and kids that are in sports to
just take it all in the right mind and the
right amount of.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
I guess, yeah, well, I mean I think that starts
with the family, with the parents, And ideally this happens
when before you have kids, even that you that you
think through what your what your goals are, and what
you want for your family, and once you have children,
you know, kind of revisiting those and seeing if that's
what you know where you want to go as a family,

(31:27):
because that ultimately is what hurt us is that we
just we put everything else aside and didn't think about
anything else except just trying to get this one kid
with this one kid needed.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
And the answer to your question is you know, a
happy medium. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 7 (31:42):
And in in that article, I did say, hey, if
you can get your kid involved in a sport that
they like and it doesn't suck up the entire you
know vortex family life. Great, that's fantastic, there's lots of benefits.
We all want to be physically active.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
And all that.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
That's all good. It's but I think that with the
place where you make a hard choice is when you
have let me back up and say it's not a problem.

Speaker 7 (32:11):
If your kid is just average in a sport or whatever,
they're not going to nobody's going to be knocking at
your door saying, hey, I want to give your kid
a lessons.

Speaker 6 (32:21):
But this is literally what happened.

Speaker 7 (32:23):
To us is that we had coaches approach us who
offered at first to deal with our child for free
because they saw the talent.

Speaker 6 (32:31):
And so we started to think, oh, this is something that's.

Speaker 7 (32:36):
So special that we just have to do this, and
we didn't go back and revisit our core values.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
We just let it carry us away. So the happy
medium in situations where kids have a lot of talent is.

Speaker 7 (32:48):
That you have to stop and think. You have to
stop and wigh, what is this going to do to
our overall family? What is this message that is sent
to the siblings when everything is focused.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
On the one child.

Speaker 7 (33:01):
What is the what is the damage to our marriage
if one of us is constantly traveling with this child,
or or we're both traveling Because as the example I
gave in the article, where both parents are gone all
weekend in different places because different kids have different sports
all weekend, you have to look at the downside and

(33:22):
make a really hard choice sometimes to say you know
what it, Yeah, you could probably maybe win an Olympic
gold medal one day, but that's not the most important thing.

Speaker 6 (33:32):
And so the most important thing.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Is that we have time for this and this and
this and have reasonable things that you're talking about, so
that so that the kids know what they're actually trading away.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
For that don Yeah. Final question for you, Diane, has
anyone ever asked the kids what they want? Do parents
ask their children enough? Do you really want to do this?
It's going to take time. Do you really really want
to do this? You know?

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I'm sure.

Speaker 7 (33:59):
I think we all have seen that there's cases where
that isn't the case and where kids are getting pushed.
I can think of a family in particular where there
were a couple of athletic kids and one of them
also was pushed into a sport and they weren't that
keen on it, but boy, they got pushed just as
hard as the talented ones.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
Because that's what the family thought.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
But I will say that in a situation where a
kid is very talented and very interested in what they're doing,
it's very hard to say no.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
It is very hard to say no, and they do
want it.

Speaker 7 (34:34):
I mean, we were in a situation where the child
very much wanted it.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
And so when your child very much wants something.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (34:44):
Diane Schrader, she's talking about stop sacrificing our family and
our kids at the altar of youth sports? Why do
we worship sports? You had kids involved in sports like that.
We've got a lot to say about that. But I
want to what our listeners think. Are we pushing our
kids to hard today to be involved in sports?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Some of these sports now are all year long. There's
not an offseason, so they're training in the off season,
or they're doing indoor versions of the sport they do
in the spring or summer. I think it's I think
we've well, I think there's examples where it's been overdone.
I think you've got a lot of families or young
people who have a trouble getting transportation or having opportunities

(35:22):
or the cost of the fees to participate in sports
or prohibitive, and a lot of kids don't get to participate.
And then you take the other side of the spectrum,
you've got people that are just making it their you know,
all they do. I mean, the specializing of sports for kids,
not having multiple, multiple sports on your life. It's just ridiculous.
It's so out of control, and I think there's a

(35:43):
little bit of a racket going on. I think there's
some club sports that make a lot a lot of
money from a lot a lot of parents. And I
don't have to go to San Diego over Thanksgiving to
see my kid play a soccer game. I just don't
have to do it. And I did do it. I
live this, Okay, I'm the sucker. I did it. So
I want to hear from our listeners if they what
they what they feel about this. Because there's great things

(36:04):
about sports. We're a big sports family. But I think
I fell into that extreme on the other side as
a kid, I could. I had a hard time getting
to play some of these sports growing up. So eight
eight eight five seven zero eight zero one zero is
the number to call if you have an opinion.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Yeah, are we worshiping sports through our children too much?
Eight eight eight five seven oh eight zero one zero.
Give us call right now. We'll get your thoughts on that.
All right, let's go to the phones. Eight eight eight
five seven eight zero one zero. We're talking about youth
sports the impact that it's having done families in America. Today,
we go to Sean, who's joining us today from Eagle Mountain. Sean,
how are you? Thanks for joining us?

Speaker 9 (36:40):
Hey, thanks for having me. Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah? We sure shain go ahead.

Speaker 9 (36:44):
I'm okay, great, well, yeah, I'm just listening to this.
I feel like you guys are talking about my current
status with my family. I got sick boys and three
of them are in club soccer. And you know, I've
actually been thinking a lot about this around the core
values of our family. And I grew up playing sports.

(37:04):
I played four sports all the way into high school.
But I never felt like I was it was a
burden for my parents. As a kid, it was just
season all you played one sport, you moved on to
the next, and it was fun.

Speaker 10 (37:16):
And now it's just for me.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
And from standing back, these coaches are coming. I got
my eight year old playing club soccer and coaches telling them, hey,
you're the best goalie in the state.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
You can go pro.

Speaker 10 (37:28):
And I'm just like.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
Mind with that. I just let him have fun and
and you know, even you know, a strain on the family.
I rarely I'm driving home right now, currently going to
soccer from Air Force all the way from kill Air
Force Base to Lehigh and you know, I barely see
my wife. And you know, they little strain on the
family at times, and again telling the other kids, littler kids,

(37:52):
where one of us is at home watching the kid?
Oh where the other ones on.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
The road and so so mean.

Speaker 9 (37:59):
I love of sports, but yeah, it's definitely taking a
hit to some of our values, I believe, and I
think are just too too much.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, I think it is. Sean, Thank you very much
for your phone call. I think for some parents, they
you know, they're going all over the.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Place and and Sean brings up a good point. It
really goes to what Diane Schrader said in our interview,
and that is that they went through this process and
what the how does it pull their family apart in
terms of spreading them out to different sports and getting
these kids their practices. And I'm going to tell you
you got to get you get an athlete like Pat
Mahomes to the quarterback for the chief for the Kansas
City Chiefs. He played multiple sports growing up and you

(38:37):
can actually see it in his football play. Some of
the basketball skills that he has some of he played
baseball as well. You can see some of the coordination
the way he can no look past that that football
you know that you don't really see in the sport
of football all the time. I think that we're losing
something when we have a bunch of adults that create
these club sports and then they get these kids in
this lane and you can't leave it. I mean my

(38:58):
daughter Sophie, she was in club sports soccer, and they
did not want her to play high school soccer no
matter what, because it's a lower level of soccer than
the club sports. And so you have some kids that
are being pulled away from even their high school teams
because the coaches will tell them that it'll they'll be
they won't progress and do as well well.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
And you have it in some cases. I'm aware of
this in some schools. Greg. Let's take boys basketball. Okay,
if you aren't playing basketball twelve months out of the
year in some like AAU basketball, the likelihood of you
making your high school team out the window. Yeah, and
it's just not fair. Kids can't just show up and
try out. I tried out, I got cut.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, that's okay. We Michael Jordan got cut. Michael Jordan
got cut from his high school team before he went
back and made it. But no, and I think that
I think playing different sports is important. I think that
the travel gets so much. They try, they get you,
they get you, they get these tournaments over holidays, and
so they're pulling you out of state, you know, and
the into Las veg Summerland, Nevada, or in San Diego

(40:03):
and wherever during Thanksgiving and other holidays. I just think
it gets to be too much. I really do.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
All right, Mar your calls coming up eight eight eight
five seven O eight zero one zero eight eight eight
five seven o eight zero one zero, or dial pound
two fifty and say hey, Ron, just joining as now
we're talking about youth sports, the demands of places on families,
on the family budget, on family time. Yes, you know
a lot of people would argue we're going overboard, and
we aren't. We aren't again sports, My kids were involved

(40:32):
in sports. Your kids were involved in sports.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Sports is good for you were involved in sports as
a kid. I love sports. The difference is when I
was a kid and my mother's a single mother, it
was hard to get the practices or I didn't have
someone to pick me up afterwards, and so there were
some things I didn't get to do just because of
my home circumstances. Now, but then the pendulum swings to
where are kids if they're in sports. They're in a
club sport and they gotta do it all year long.

(40:55):
There's no off season. Yeah, and it gets obsessive.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
When I grew up in a small town in upstate
New York, played hockey, had to walk to the rink
by myself six o'clock in the morning and did it
almost every day. Rarely would mom give me a ride in.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, yeah, to do And that's great if you're even
close enough to do it. But I'm telling you, the
way that these club sports work, you got to you
have to have trainers. You got to drive them here
to go to do their training, and then you have
to take them over there. Then there's indoor arena, uh,
you know, soccer and everything else. It's it is just
and and to the point of where your family gets
to be together and how you're you're spending those finite

(41:31):
years together, it does pull it apart. And you got
adults I think making a ton of money on tapping
into that that desire to play the sports. So let's
go to our callers. Let's go to Dennis, who's been
patiently waiting in Mapleton. Dennis, Welcome to the Rodd and
Greg Show. What do you think about the youth sports?

Speaker 10 (41:47):
How are you guys?

Speaker 5 (41:49):
Well?

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Thank you?

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
So I grew up in a little tiny town in
the middle of nowhere in southern Utah, and I I
played every sport known and my parents because it was
I'm old. I'm I'm fifty eight. So I was growing
up in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (42:11):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (42:12):
They didn't get to go to any of our anything
because I was sixty miles one way to the high
school on a school bus.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
Wow, you know.

Speaker 10 (42:25):
And when I got home at night, I was I
was doing chores. I was doing everything I could because
that was that was the job. Nowadays, I take my
kids to go do things, and all they they don't teach,
they don't teach them how to catch them baseball. They

(42:49):
they asked the parents for money to buy new uniforms
every year. It seems strange to me.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
Thank you for the call, Dennis. And I'm gonna tell
you that just think about this. You're your your kids
on a team and you're trying to get you know,
they want to They're gonna they're gonna do training after
the season's over. So you have some trainer that trains
them and works them and gets their you know, agility
training and all this other stuff. Then they're gonna play
indoor sports. Well, what if you're a family and you
have more than one kid in a club sport and

(43:22):
it starts to get the finances get tough, But then
you have the peer pressure. You have a you have
children who have friends on that team. Uh, and they
don't want to quit the team, and they like they're
they're they're having a good experience. I think it puts
an incredible amount of pressure on that family to be
able to even be a part of the club sports scene.
And uh and and again, I think those that organize

(43:44):
these club sports, I'm not convinced they're doing it because
it's in the best interest of the kid. I think
it's I think it's in the best interest of those
who who organize them to see that kind of revenue
stream happening twelve months a year. Here. I have a
friend who's who I served with an elected cure a physician,
and he was older than me. His kids has been
through the sports and my daughter was in club sports

(44:05):
at the time, and he said, you know this twelve
months a year that pays. It takes a toll on
our kids, especially girls, ligaments in their knees, and they
were not really meant to play the same sport twelve,
you know, without any break at all, without any officer. Yes,
And so he was he was warning me that you
know that the injuries that that come from never stopping

(44:26):
is real and if there's a there's a high percentage
of it. And then he said, if you took all
the money you spent in close sports, put that aside,
you'd pay for your kids college. You don't have to
worry about the scholarship.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Probably, you know. And I wonder another issue that I
what is the burnout factor with these kids? These kids
were How many kids get to the point and say,
I just don't want to do it anymore. Yeah, I
am tired of doing this. I just want to have
my own time and play.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Yeah, And they don't get to they don't get to
do that, they don't they it becomes all they do.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah. Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one
zero triple eight five seven o eight zero one zero.
More of your calls coming up. Let's go back to
the phones. Let's talk with John in Salt Lake City tonight. John,
welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
Oh, thank you.

Speaker 12 (45:09):
It seems to me like in youth sports we have
started to treat every youth as a professional, meaning we
upfront invest so much money and time and money and travel.
Where is it used to be that the barrier of
entry for youth sports was super low, Like any kid

(45:31):
for really cheap could go play anywhere, and then the
most talented, you know, would get kind of picked out
and put on a track to a higher level. And
it seems like now it's just like any kid, that
any age group is treated like a professional, and it
seems like it's not working.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
So well, yeah, that's a good point. I think you're right, John,
they are professional.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
And it's getting to the point, and we've said this
already on the show that if you're not getting your
child involved in a particular sport and you're not really early,
they don't have a chance for that high school experience.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Or even dance or performing anything like that.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
Dance. The girls are going the same way. But let's
go to Holly in South Jordan. Holly, thank you for holding.
Welcome to the Rod and Greg Show.

Speaker 13 (46:17):
Okay, thanks so much. Hey, I have lived this life
that you guys are talking about, and you know, the
whole competitive stuff, traveling all over the country. So I
just have two points. My one son, who we did
travel all over the country, he did get burned out,
just like you were saying. And at that point we
were like, Okay, we're done with this sport. He picked

(46:38):
a new sport, he got the past him back and
just continued his high school in the new sports. So
you know, yeah, they get burned out, but I think
if they're athletes and they're interested in doing sports, they'll
find something else to do.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Ye. Good point.

Speaker 14 (46:51):
And my other point is, you know, with the computers
and the phones and everything right now, I absolutely love
that I have another who he's on this. He's on
two soccer teams right now.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
I'll be his choice.

Speaker 14 (47:04):
Not that I pushed him onto that, but it gets
him off of his phone, it gets him off the computer,
it gets him outside. And I know, as a parent
it's my responsibility to monitor his monitor, his computer and
phone time, and I get that, but these sports have
been a great help in that that it gives him
a reason to get off and get outside.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
Holly, thank you. I appreciate your phone call. And she's right,
get them off the cell phones, get them off, out
from the TV, and just go play.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
So we're coming up to a break, a heartbreak where
we have to get off, because I would have loved
to have asked her, So how do you find the balance?
Because I'm all in on that. I was an assistant
coach for my son, you know's in pee wee football
and Mighty Mind and all that, and my daughter played
soccer and club soccer, and I think all of these
experiences for my children were good and positive. But there's
a side of it that's not and it does pull

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families away, and it does cost money and put pressure,
financial pressures on families that are hard. So how how
did Holly? How did she walk that careful line? Because
it is a careful line.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
Yeah, it's curious, but we want emphasize I think sports
for kids is fantastic. I think you would agree undred
percent for boys if you put boundaries and you say
you can beat the daylights out of each other on
the field, but you you're out of bounds, You're done,
no more. I mean, that's what they learn.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
It's it's the it's the confronting adversity. Yeah, and learning
to overcome that and and that is a life skill learn.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Or my son said football, he coached football, played college football.
Said the one thing about football, you get knocked down
on every plane. You have to get yourself back.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And that's what life is like. You're gonna get knocked down.
This teaches you how to get back down and make
the Yep, all right. Today is the official start of
the new law on pride flags.

Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yeah, no flag, not top pride flights. But we're just
not gonna have flags. We're just gonna let governments government
bring out of the flag business, is what the plan is.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Big news today the hockey club has a has a name, Mammoth,
the Utah Mammoth.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yep, that's it's a logo like I like to I
like to call you U Tah Republicans. You know, it's
it's it's it's it's an elephant, you know. Yeah, it
says prehistoric heal mean elephant, Yeah, yeah, big elephant. Yeah,
like Trump, you know that. I know all the liberals
so I'm just gonna hate that. They just don't whatever
you do, don't tap into their Trump arrangement syndrome and

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try to associate the new mascot with anymore. They're gonna
die when they hear me say that.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
Well, we invite you to come on buy we're a
minky kotour. We'll be here until seven o'clock. Did I
come in? Go to the find your blanket, go to
the counter and say Rod fifty five. You'll get fifty
five percent off.

Speaker 8 (49:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
And if we're on the air, I've seen some people
come by and you know, just give away, give a wave.
If we're on the air, we can't. If we can't
say hi, I would still love to thank you for
coming by and just give us a wave and we'll
keep going.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Well. The bill ushered through the legislature by our good
friend Trevor Lee. Yes, the flag bill. This is a
bill that says the only flags that should fly in
public buildings, city owned building, government owned buildings, I should say,
are the American flag in the Utah flag.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
That's it. We're getting out of the flag business.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
And it was a law that you and I agree with.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
We do, and a lot of people say, uh, you know,
they always want to say, it's the Pride flag, it's
the MAGA flag, it's the Pride flag, it's any flag,
Back Lives Matter, Antifa, you name it. We're just out
of the flag business. Okay, We're just and I think
that's I think, why would we want it any other way?
That ought to be the way. But of course we
can't have nice things, can we. We can't Salt Lake City,

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I should say can't have nice things because what did
they do with that law? They found a workaround an
obnoxious I would say, work around to the law.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, well, very similar to what they did in Boise.
The very liberal mayor in Boise, she encouraged the city
council in Boise to pass a law that made the
Pride flag the official flag for the city of Boise.
We used to live in Boise, used to be a
really nice town. I think it's gonna wackle. It's been californicated, yes, yeah,
it has.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Of course. They ruin their own place, and then they
just come and take the next like parasites, you know,
they just kill the host audio. Then they go to
the next state to try and take it over.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Well, Aaron Mendenhall, I think it's a bit she's out there.
Last night went for the city council and she said, look,
we've got four new flags that the city will adopt,
and they all have the Pride color or the trans
colors in them.

Speaker 8 (51:23):
There is a way, which we've discovered through our legal
council that we can abide by.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
This law.

Speaker 8 (51:29):
HB seventy seven does not limit government entities from having
more than one flag. In fact, the state of Utah
itself has four official flags. So this is not out
of any kind of candor for other municipalities or levels
of government even here.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
In the state Union. I do get that, do you no?

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Well, first off, they also wanted to raise taxes by
about seven or eight percent yesterday, so you start carting
out your flag. So it's kind of kind of a
bait and switch, you know, talk about the flags because
you also have a budget you want to approve some
tax increases for here's my ideal, man, I am. I
don't know about you, but I feel, gentlemen, we are
under assault men men, you know we It is toxic masculinity.

(52:15):
I'm looking at the Vanity Fair article here on my iPad.
Here it says that why are Americans so obsessed with protein?
Blame maga? Okay, it says that that protein, it's undeniably gendered.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
What yeah, what, I guess.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I guess being weak and and obese and blue haired
is like is like it's supposed to be healthy now.
But but I say all that to say, where's my flag?
Because I got one. I got a flag that says
that says you're man.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I'm all man.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Do you want to know my flag?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I know what I know what it is, but please
share with the audience.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I want the Playboy Bunny. I want to play Boy
because I want to say that I am a heterosexual
man and I like protein, and I am not toxic,
and I am not I am not all these things
that they want to say being a man. And I'm
tired of being attacked and I need to be validated,
just like everybody else nowadays needs to be validated. I
need a flag. And I think that that you know
that flag. The Playboy Bunny used to be kind of

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you know, you have a Playboy club, you have a
I want to bring it back. I know it's a
family show, but I'm just gonna say you know, tough
times call for tough measures, and I want a flag.
I want the Playboy flag because I'm a man and
protein is not a gendered bad thing. Utually men and
women would be would do well to have protein.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
And by displaying that flag, did it affirm that you're
a guy.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
As much as their flags whatever they whatever they're trying
to pull off in Salt Lake City with all their flags,
then I want mine too, Cause if you're going to
go and find all these groups that you want to
make sure know that we know you're out there, I
want them to know I'm out here. I don't want
them to judge me anymore. I feel I feel they're
very judging.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
The question I have is what does that flag do
for people?

Speaker 11 (53:55):
You know?

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Now?

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Well, I think we have the mayor of Midvale on tomorrow,
Is that right, e?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Ray?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Is he coming on tomorrow? Yeah, he's coming on tomorrow.
He's gay. He's an era of Midvale. As I think
it was him who wrote an article about a month
ago when this whole flag thing was going through the legislature,
say you know, and he did write this off it piece,
say it was an affirmation of us. Okay, the Pride
flag affirmed that we existed. You know, really, do you

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need a flag to say do you exists?

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Only? If they have one? Take get one? I get one.
I want one that says I can do push ups.
I'm I'm strong, I want to eat red meat. I
want to be strong. I want to be healthy. If
you're gonna have your flag, and somehow you construed some
meaning behind having your own flag, I am not getting
left out of this equation. I am gonna I'm drawn
a line in the sand.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I want my flag. Well, why do you need a
flag to affirm who you are or is? Michael?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Don't really? I mean, if you're if you're a US
citizen and you're a if it's if it's a utahon
or an American citizen, great, if you if you live
in a city, I'm sure they had a historical flag
of some sort, have that, But if you have to
go make that flag like they did in Salt Lake
City last night, four different ones affirming all these different
transgender LGBTQ whatever it did.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Come on.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
Really, if you're a and all you'd have to do
is say, okay, we're gonna put a MAGA flag out there,
because that really affirms kind of make America great again.
Making America great again should be a foundational principle for everyone.
So let's pursue that there would be people that have
a problem with it. What what you can argue is
why don't we not have maga flags? But why don't

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we just quit getting into the affirmation game and just
let government buildings do whatever it is you do in
a government building and quit throwing a bunch of flags
up for some reason.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
I've got an idea. We should call it Aaron Mendenhall.
Give her this idea. You ready for this?

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Have a flag park with all kinds of flags you imagine,
and you'll feel so good when you see your flag
in the flag park.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Yeah. I don't even I just don't get it. But
I'll tell you what. The most chilling effect we could
have on the flag game is, give me my my
man flag, Give me my guy flag. Where we where
protein is not gendered, where we're allowed to have protein,
eat red meat, exercise, be healthy, and I'm not toxic,
you know, give me my flag. And then you know

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what they'd say, Oh, Hughes, we're not doing that. We
were getting out of the flag game. That's what they'd say,
and then that's what that's where we were trying to
get in the first place. So that's okay, I'm alright
with it.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
You know, help, what is it about the flag that
you have to have a flag? See you're a friend,
you know. I want to ask the mayor this question tomorrow.
Obviously he's been through experience where he's been discriminated against
because he's gay. Yes, that would be my guess. Something happened, right,
So having a flag flying outside the building would that
stop him from being discriminated against? It wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (56:49):
No. If he's saying, look, that makes it more acceptable, Well,
what what's the symbol for heterosexuality? Would it be the
Playboy flag? Because I wouldn't. I want to make sure
that's acceptable. I mean, if we're gonna we're gonna start
saying one is acceptable by absence, is the other not?
I mean, are we gonna have to get into that game?

Speaker 2 (57:06):
How many flags?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Food for thought?

Speaker 2 (57:08):
How many flags do we need?

Speaker 4 (57:10):
You know?

Speaker 1 (57:10):
I just I just like I say too. But if
we're not gonna have to, then give me my flag.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
And everybody has a flag, I want an k flag.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
You don't want my flag.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
You have your flag.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Don't you want my flag? My flag is good? You
want my flag?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
You have only if I get my flag?

Speaker 1 (57:26):
No, you want my My flag is to play with
Bunn and Rod. It's a flag flag.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, you get your flag. I get my flag.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
No, my flags for all this see this is a
man club. This is a woman hairs club. This is
my club.

Speaker 15 (57:37):
Eight eight five that's a little rascals reference eight okay, okay,
good time together?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
Five zero one year old. Do you need a flag?
And if you had a flag, which one would it be?

Speaker 1 (57:56):
You want my flag, folks, I mean that's I mean,
if they're gonna have a if you're gonna have a
rainbow flag, you're gonna have a man flag. You have
the hetero flag?

Speaker 8 (58:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero. Let's
go to the phones and get your thoughts on this.
We begin into will it tonight with Ryan? Ryan? How
are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show?

Speaker 5 (58:17):
Hey? Thanks, thanks, Greg?

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah, you'reome.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
I mean.

Speaker 12 (58:22):
I think you can you have have the flag, have
have your have your he.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Man woman haters play flag?

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Why why do we.

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Need to take away? You know, take away as the
lgbt's there's rainbow rainbow flags.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
Because we don't have the other flags. Because what they're
doing is that they're just Ryan. They're just they they're
they're just they're represented. But they're not looking to do that.
The city just wants to wants to represent a certain
portion or population in their city or say that that
is what's being inclusive. And the argument is there's a
lot of different group people that live in Salt Lake
City that could identify or wanted to identify if that's

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the way they want to go. So why are some
animals more equal than others in the animal farm reference?
I mean, why why I pick the ones you like
versus the ones you don't.

Speaker 12 (59:11):
If you feel like you have a marginalized group that
needs to be represented, then make a flag and petition
the city to do that.

Speaker 11 (59:19):
Right.

Speaker 12 (59:19):
But it's a free country, right, last last timer.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
Ted, Yeah, they picked four, you know, okay, and that's
all they're interested in. Ryan. They're not interested if you
have a group and you'd like to go to the city,
good luck, because I don't think that they're looking for
more than four. They got the four they like, and
they all seem to be cut from the same cloth
in terms of where these flags like to come from.
I don't think. In other words, the MAGA flag make
America great again. You're not going to see that flag

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flying over salt Lake City anytime soon. And they're marginalized
in salt Lake, believe me.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Let's go to David, who's on the Redwood Roads to
night here on the rod and Greg Joe, Hi, David,
how are you.

Speaker 10 (59:54):
Hey?

Speaker 16 (59:54):
How are you guys doing so? My point is is
that I always make I always make one point that
dismantles every single argument. Don't we already have a flag
that represents every race, every creed, every person, every belief,
whatever representation you have, the American flag. Don't we already
have that? So why are we focusing so much of

(01:00:16):
this attention on all these other flags?

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Yes, David, you're exactly right, And I think that's kind
of the point of the bill, is that I think
he's flag we do, and I do think I think
that he's exactly right that that should That is why
we are Land of the Free, home of the brave.
We are a melting pot. We are a place where
you know, we're a nation of immigrants. We come from
all different places, and the American flag should be it,

(01:00:41):
and our state flag. If you have a city flag, great.
But again, once you get into the game of we're
just gonna start paying political there is there's you're gonna
You're gonna miss two hundred groups that feel marginalized. For
every one group you decide you're going to herald and
make a big deal out of you is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Going to My question is is the American flag not
good enough for you? It's fine for me. I love
the American flag.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
When we when we start a sporting event and you
play the national anthem, it is a it is a
moment of unity. It's the national anthem, the song, our flag.
When we see it. I mean, it's nobody's looking at
each other and wondering what's different. We're all together in
that moment. And it isn't that the point?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Or should be the point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
It should be the point. I'm with you. I mean
what Trevor Lee was trying to do, I totally agree with. Look,
we have an American flag, great, let's fly it. We
have a State of Utah flag a little bit different
than what it used to be. We have a few
versions of that flag.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
I like you I'm old school on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
That, the old school as well. But you know that's
what lawmakers decid didn't do. We'll support that. You just
don't need any more flags. I don't know what purpose
it serves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah, and it well, it serves the divide is what
it does. That's true because look, you have a world
headquarters for the Church of Jesus Christ Larriday Sayntes in
Salt Lake City. They don't have a flag. Maybe they,
I mean why not? I mean, how could you not
if But once you've decided I'm going to take our
city flag and we're going to make different designs of

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it to recognize different groups. Once you've gone down that road,
which one are you going to exclude?

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Where does it stop?

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
It doesn't, It really doesn't. I mean again, I think
I think Republicans might be one of the most marginalized,
viciously treated groups in Salt Lake City. You're ever going
to find they should get a flag. You're under duress
when you're downtown and you you go wear a make
America Great hat downtown salt Lake See.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
How that good luck to see you?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
Yeah, that's that's probably Oh that'd go, well, whither we
get it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Too, we'd be kicked out in a minute. All right,
back to the phones we go. Let's go to Trevor
in Cottonwood Heights tonight. Trevor, how are you welcome to
the Rod and Greg Show?

Speaker 9 (01:02:49):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (01:02:49):
Ron, Greg? So the first thing that conquering armies due
to a civilization as they take down the old flag
and put the new leg up there, they're not going
to give that up. That's just a rubbing your face
and the fat conquered and your civilization's on the down slide,

(01:03:12):
and and you're gonna everything that they stand for and
don't wor and take it away.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Trevor, good point. It's true. I mean that's I mean
the Star Spangled banner. The whole origin of the song
was seeing the American flag still flying the next morning
after the big battle, you know, and that it had
not been replaced.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
All right, let's get to this call. Then we'll take
a break. Let's go to Dan in provo. Dan, how
are you welcome to the Roden Graag Show? Thank you?

Speaker 4 (01:03:38):
Dan, Well, you're welcome.

Speaker 11 (01:03:40):
Thanks.

Speaker 16 (01:03:41):
And I wanted to comment that we were marginalizing the
other six deadly sins.

Speaker 4 (01:03:46):
We only had the pri flag.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Where's the obesity flag. I mean, how where's that one? Gluttony? Yeah,
I want some gluttony. I mean I'll take that one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
No, you're right, good point, Dan, Thank you. We appreciate
your phone call. All right, more coming up. It is
the Roden Great show. You and I talked about this
a while ago. We both had student loans, Yes we did,
and we paid them off.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yes we did. We weren't.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Nobody forgave us of the student loans.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Now Queen Bee had him too. It was off too
when I was married, So I had to pay him
to hers too, double whammy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Are you critical of her? She didn't pay she didn't
pay for her own.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
No, well, I'm not gonna get you, not going there. No,
it all worked out fine. I am so happy to
have paid off those students lines.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I can see your happiness. Uh. COVID nineteen Joe Biden
and his infinite wisdom said, you know, you people, because
you're probably not working right now because of COVID, you
don't have to pay your loan back. You are forgiven
of your loan debt.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yep he lied, Yeah, he lied.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Well, Donald Trump is coming to office, boy, things changed
a debt. Yeah, his new Education Secretary Linda McMahon announced,
guess what, starting as I think it was, has a Monday,
It's time to start paying them back and you need
to do that right now. And joining us on our
newsmaker line to talk more about that is Lexley Lona's Cochran.
She is with the Hill. LEXI thanks for joining us

(01:05:10):
tonight highlights some of the changes that went into effect
on Monday.

Speaker 11 (01:05:15):
Sure, So the biggest change that came up Monday is
that the faulted student loan of borrow borrowers, so those
who have missed two hundred and seventy days, well now
they will be eligible for involved for involuntaritary collections, which
means that the federal government can take some money from
their paychecks, from Social Security payments, and from their tax

(01:05:42):
really funds to pay back on their student loves.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
So my question looks like there might be a concern
about how that collection is going to happen. I saw
a press conference or actually I think it was one
of the cabinet meetings where I think Secretary Treasury Secretary
Thessance said that a nineteen ninety modernization of software program
was still underway after all these years and that that
was going to conclude and they were actually going to

(01:06:08):
try and create a more even more efficient program and
user friendly program. Do you think any of the efficiencies
that we're seeing in federal government with DOJE and with
the new cabinet secretaries, do you think they might be
able to do more with less in terms of who
collects and how those programs are being administered.

Speaker 11 (01:06:28):
Yeah, So right now, it's very unclear how these programs
will be administered in the future. Trumpet talked about moving
our student loan programs to the small business administrations. There's
been cut at the Department of Education itself, even in
the in the student loan department. So it's very unclear

(01:06:51):
right now kind of what the long term will be
for these for these programs under the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
Under the Trump administration, are these any different, these new
regulations under the second Trump administration different from what they
were trying to do LEXI in the first Trump administration.

Speaker 11 (01:07:09):
Uh No, So this isn't really different at all. The
only reason that this does not happen was because there
was a pause in March of twenty of twenty twenty
onties in the voluntary collections due to COVID and a
pause was only just lifted now so five years later.
These involuntary collections were always a thing before the twenty

(01:07:32):
twenty COVID pause.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
You know, I don't know if this is the case
here in the state of Utah, but when I had
student loans and they were what stafford loans I had
that I had to pay back, the State of Utah
was actually they had a system within Utah Higher Education
that collected that. Do we have that responsibility where states
may collect the federal loans student loans, respective student loans

(01:07:56):
in their own states. Is that's still a program and
with that maybe get it closer to the people in
terms of collecting those debts.

Speaker 14 (01:08:04):
So I don't think all the states have that right now.

Speaker 11 (01:08:06):
I know that the I know that the Trump administration
set our APO colleague gludded to universities only talk about
their responsorability here.

Speaker 14 (01:08:17):
To tell far, to tell bar to tell.

Speaker 11 (01:08:20):
Borrowers that they're that they must be paying on their
student loans. That this election is happening. But in terms
of you know, if it will all kind of go
to the state level there, that's unclear right now.

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
It's only been a few days, but any word as
to how these changes are impacting things or is it
too early.

Speaker 11 (01:08:39):
To tell, LEXI, I think it's too early to tell.
I know, we know that these changes will impact five
million borrow borrowers here and only only the thirty eight
percent of people with student loans occur are current on
them right now. But it's unclear, you know, kind of

(01:08:59):
what the long term impact will be as of now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
What kind of pushback are these uh, these regulations getting
right now? Are there some student loan groups out there
are saying, you can't do this to us right now.
We aren't ready to start paying these back.

Speaker 11 (01:09:13):
Yeah, so some student loan groups have have pushed back,
you know, they said, as the economy isn't fluxed right
now with a tariff that put put in this amount
of pressure on on UH followers who obviously are all
already struggling to repay if they are in default. Some
groups that are saying, you know, this isn't the uh

(01:09:34):
the right time for.

Speaker 13 (01:09:35):
The cause to be lifted.

Speaker 1 (01:09:37):
So I don't know that if you if you haven't
been paying, that you'll ever find a time where you're
just chomping at the bit to pay. I think there's
gonna be a there's gonna be a little bit of
a hesitation just inherently. So with that said, do you
think that it'll be successful? I mean, I I worry
when there's been this large of a pause, which I
don't know if this has happened this long before before,

(01:09:58):
But with five years where you haven't been seeing the collections,
can we get our student loan program up and running
the way it used to where you would get the
loans and then once you were out of school for
so many for a certain period time, you did begin
to make those monthly payments. Are we going to get
back to that system? Do you think?

Speaker 11 (01:10:15):
I think it would definitely be a difficult transition for.

Speaker 5 (01:10:19):
People.

Speaker 11 (01:10:19):
And you know, we have a lot of students who
graduated during this part and was of it in that
previous system. But obviously you know that system was there
for a long time. But you know, borrowers are kind
of this whiplash right now of you know, the by
administration wanted to forgive student loans, wanted to make a
more generous incomes Germany payment program than now we have

(01:10:41):
the top administration kind of turning back on everything one
hundred per one hundred percent here, So it's gonna be
a difficult I think transition for.

Speaker 9 (01:10:52):
Borrowers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Right now on our any our Newsmaker line, that's Lexi
Loan as cochrane. She is talking about student debt and
the changes that are taking place. You know what I
figured out what this show is like. What if you're
watch NBA today with or inside the NBA with Charles
and there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Is no control those guys. I wish we were on
that level.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Say this again, there's no control on that show. I
don't think there's control on this show.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
No, No, we just get off on the Have you
seen Shack have the bath you know, the bathroom break?
But he middle.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
But did you see what they did last night? No,
Shaq and Charles wrestled each other.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
They did.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Jack took him down. It was the funniest thing in
the world. I don't know why they get into that.
Keep talking to talking about Shack took him down last night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, well he probably had it coming. They get a chippy,
those two, they get they get we're way more polite,
like I couldn't do that to you.

Speaker 10 (01:11:43):
Yeah we are.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I'd be called elderly abusers. Well, elder abusive. Yeah, I
can't do that to you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
I have to be honest and golf you never you'll
never never will. Got to drop that in my nineties. Yeah,
I gotta drop it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Nor Drive, I don't know why it's so line.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Nora o'donald does the name ring of Belle Yes, yeah,
former CBS news anchor.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
She left because she's going to pursue other other endeavors.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yes, well, guess what happened to her and her family yesterday?
Sad story you ready. Immigration and Customs enforcement agents raided
a Washington DC restaurant owned by Nora o'donald's husband.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Is he legal? I think maybe he? You know, Nora,
I don't even know if she she's not American, she
doesn't actually don't like America.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Maybe she she's American.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
She might be a she might be a plant.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Yeah, she might be Russia. Well, apparently nearly a dozen
ice and law enforcement agents went to the one of
the locations of its restaurant, it's called Chef Jeff's in Washington,
d C. And raided. Don't know what they found, but
they raided the restaurant last night.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
Well good that see, some good things could happen here
that I think that's called karma.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
You're saying that. Good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Oh, yes, I think that's one for I think you
know your reap wich is so you're supposed to at
least she had it coming.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
Yeah, Okay, help me understand this. What why are some
GOP lawmakers saying, we don't want to do the cuts
that Elon Musk has recommended? Well, why why are they
fighting back on this stuff? They don't want to touch
planned parenthood funding they're fraid will be bad for them. Yes,
and they're some more moderates that say, you know, those

(01:13:26):
Doge cuts, we don't think we can go along.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
But it's the worst thing I've ever heard. I cannot
believe they would they would do that. I mean I
did what did Schlickter call them the the sissy Republican
Fredocons like Fredo from The Godfather. They're Fredocons. They're just sissy.
They just want to be dominated by the Democrats, and
that's it's part of the deal. So I I I

(01:13:50):
I just if they don't, if they don't take those cuts, okay,
because that they are not cutting anyone's Medicare, Medicare for security.
They're they're cutting the fraud out of it so that
those programs actually are stronger. If they can't find the
political will to put those cuts in that budget, then
you get out of there. Just they're not on our team.
They're on the Democrats team. If that's what they do,

(01:14:10):
go play for them. I can't even.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Believe they are concerned about, you know, cutting Planned parenthood,
cutting NPR and PPS following some of the recommendations from
the Doge Committee to eliminate waste and fraud and a
bloated federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Kurt Schlicker called them sissy Republican fred ocons. And that's
and that would be putting it nicely. I hope, hope,
hope they you get those cuts in the budget. If
you can't, we're in trouble. We're in trouble, all right.
That does it for us tonight. We've had a blast.
We have.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
I don't think we accomplished SA anything today, but we tried.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
Yes, we we fill yourself out. I've been dropping truth
bumps for three hours.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
Head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your family.
Will talk to you tomorrow.

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