The Rod and Greg Show: Closure of County Day Care Centers; GOP Without Trump on Ballet; How Dems Gave In TO Radicals

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's not time to panic. It's you had democrat enclaves
that had Democrats against democrats, and you had socialists and
communist democrats beat so called moderate democrats. And I don't
know what that has to do with the price of
tea in China, because it doesn't have anything to do
with Utah or the fly over states of the rest
of every day America. It isn't, it isn't. The sky

(00:20):
is not falling. It is fine. It is Those are
states that have been democrat for a long time, and
it would be like Republicans won in Utah, the Democrats
are in trouble.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
If you're a Democrat and a Democrat loses in Utah,
you're hitting the panic button so well.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
I love this comment. This a post. We may get
into this a little bit later on from JD. Vans.
He said, quote, I think it's idiotic to overreact to
a couple of elections in blue states. It's right, yes,
don't overreact votes.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
I mean, I know we have a little pep in
our step. Maybe we're getting tired of winning. We think
we win, but what we were really looking for is
how close can we make it in New Jersey or
for governor. And I did think we had a good
chance because he that candidate, he came so close four
years ago. Uh and you thought the poll numbers looked
a little tighter this time, so maybe he could actually

(01:08):
pull it off. But that had been a Cinderella story
if he did. Yeah, And as far as Virginia goes Man,
that you can have that when they elect someone like
that Jay Jones, that has homicidal thoughts in fact, j
two bullet Jones.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
We've been saying that this, this whole violence, political violence
is not a two way streets, not a two party
prom it's the problem with the Democrats. His election proves that.
To me, It proves that the violence and the things
he said and the homicide that he he fantasized about
with that former speaker over Hitler and Polepott, he'll he'd
kill that former speaker, his colleague, his wife and children

(01:43):
when you elect him. And that's okay. And then some
people made him more electable. He said that, well, if
that's your state, you can have that state trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
All right, We've got a lot to get to today.
Of course, we'll spend some time talking about the election
results last night. Two big issues here in the state
of Utah. How much is the Jordan School District paying
for a greenhouse wait to hear this story, folks. And
the outrage over the county deciding it doesn't want to
be in the childcare business anymore. Yeah, wise decision, but

(02:12):
apparently some people are very upset about that. We'll get
into that. We will talk about the election. So we've
got a lot to get to and do we want
you to be a part of the program. Eight eight
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leave us coming on our talk back line. All right,
let's take a few minutes to talk about what happened

(02:34):
last night. This is the line Greg ma'am and ma'am.
Donnie used this during his speech last night, and some
people are calling this line the one of the most
horrifying ever quotes from a politician. Will prove that there
is no problem too large for government to solve and
no concern too small.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
For it to care about. Uh So government will solve
all our problems, yes, and not a problem too small,
which means that they tend to get right involved. Right,
He's going to get right involved in your life with
the heavy hand of government. Yeah, and now that sounds
on brand, right. I think that's kind of what we
thought it was.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know what that means, taxes, taxes, regulation, taxes, taxes, regulation. Yeah,
that's what it's going to mean. And remember, Ronald Reagan,
the nine most terrifying words in the English language are
I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Apparently
he never heard that.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Well, I'll tell you this, nothing that none of that
actually surprised. That's kind of on brand. I mean, he
hasn't really run away from being a socialist, but he
was what you mentioned yesterday as socialist with a smile.
I think the part that was surprising to me, and
not in a good way, is I didn't see the
smiles beaming.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Nope.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
At least it sounded like and a lot of people
are calling it an angry except in speech, and I
anger wouldn't have been the emotion I thought, especially with
him be bopping around and smiling and telling everyone how
excited and optimistic he was. You know, the grim us
on his face and the anger in his voice, that's
the part that I was surprised.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, that's what caught the attention of Van Jones, CNN
commentator last night. Listen to his analysis of them Donnie's
speech last night.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
But I think he.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
Missed an opportunity. I think the Mom Donnie that we
saw in the campaign trail, who was a lot more calm,
who was a lot warmer, who was a lot more embracing,
was not present in that speech. And I think that
Mom Donnie is the one you need to hear from tonight.
There are a lot of people trying to figure out
can I get on this train with him or not?

(04:34):
Is he going to include me? Is he going is
he going to be more of a class warrior even
in office. I think he missed a camp tonight to
open up and bring more people into the tent.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
I think its tone was sharp.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I think he was using the microphone in a way
that he was almost yelling. And that's not the Mom
Donnie that we've seen on TikTok and the great interviews
and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
So I felt like it was.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
A little bit of a care switch here where the warm,
open embracing guy that's close to working people was not
on stage night and there were some some other voice
on stage.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (05:10):
He's very young, and he just pulled off something that's very,
very difficult, and I wouldn't write him off, but I
think he missed an opportunity to open himself up tonight,
and I think that that will probably cost him.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
Going for Yes, Van Jones, I think he's not only
very young, he's also very naive. He's thirty four years old, Greg.
He's never run a business. He was he was taught
at some of the most liberal schools by a very
liberal group of socialist parents. Basically, the guy has no
experience of running anything. Yet the people of New York
just put him in charge of a city of what
eighty nine million people.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, and you know, when I was a kid and
we used to try to tease the rich kids, you know,
we're the push kids we teach. We used to call
him little Lord Fauntleroy's running around with their you know,
with their anyway that I think he's a little Lord Fauntleroy.
He was raised by wealthy as socialists that you know
have They have luxury beliefs. Luxury beliefs, are you do
so well and your basic needs are met? You get

(06:04):
luxury beliefs. You can believe in philosophical ideas that never
really touch your life. You just get to think about
them and feel good about him. You know what's not
a luxury belief is how you pay for the rent
or the mortgage? How do you pay for how do
you pay? Yeah, and it's shocking. I thought I would
have told you that the poll numbers coming back would
have shown the youth and the everyday people voting for him.

(06:29):
The polls show different. It shows the people with the
master's degrees, the people that the elite, the the you know,
the upper class, voting for him and droves the people
from the working neighborhoods. The working class neighborhoods. New York
City didn't go with this guy. There for a guy
complaining about the rich and I'm here for you the
everyday people. The everyday people weren't, weren't the ones that
got him elected.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Now it's the newer regidents of New York that got
him elected. To be honest, here's Scott Jennings also on
that same CNN panel with Van Jones last night. His
reaction to the speech.

Speaker 6 (06:59):
He after everybody that he thinks is a problem people
who own things, people who have businesses. He said an
interesting quote, no problem too large for government.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
To solve or too small important.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
And so when you think of the world that way,
that every problem, no matter how small or how large,
is something for government to do. Let me just decipher
this for you. Tax increases as far as the eye
can see, which means that people who need to provide
jobs to the young people that you say need jobs
are going to flee as quickly as they possibly can.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
I think this was a divisive speech.

Speaker 6 (07:40):
And he clearly sees the world in terms of the
people who are oppressing you and the oppressed, and he said,
the oppressed are now in city Hall.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Can we just take a minute, Greg and think about this?
And I hope people are realizing this today because you
brought it up earlier. Are we grateful that we live
in the state of Utah?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh man, I'll take this state sometimes getting mad at
our rhinos, and we get mad at those that seem
a little too moderate, maybe leftist. Man, watching what's going
on in the you got a homicidal attorney general Virginia.
You got you got a communist that as soon as
he won, he turned on all of you. He just
started getting mean right away that night. By the way,

(08:19):
advanced degrees, those with advanced degrees, fifty seven percent of
them voted for Mam Donnie.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Those with no high school degree at all forty nine
percent voted for and then high school graduates forty seven
percent voted for Cuomo, some college forty eight. Anyway, you
can see the divide. It is an economic divide. It's
almost a caste system, divide of the with and without,
you know, those that have and those that have not,

(08:46):
and those that are already very comfortable in their life
voted in droves for Mam Donnie.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
And I think their approach is greg because they've been
taught at the elite schools where socialism and communists are
taught every day. Feel Wellmanism and socialists may have filled
in the past, but it's never been done right, and
we will do it right here in America and make
it work. And I think that's the approach that they're
thinking about. God, that's scary, all right. Still to come
next on the Roden greg Show on This Wingman Wednesday,

(09:14):
Harriman High School wants a greenhouse. What's it gonna cost you?
We'll talk about that coming up next right here on
the Rod and Greg Show and Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine. Kayn rs. Carolyn Fippin. Yes, you know
Carolyn Right, Really nice lady Carolyn. She always talks about
her greenhouse. Apparently she has a greenhouse that she just adores. Right,
I've never seen it in her back here, you've seen it, right.

(09:37):
I wonder if she's paid seven hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
For I'm gonna go ahead and stick my neck out
on this and say.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
No, no, Well, that's why people are so upset about
this story that we saw the other day in the
Jordan School District. The school board there has approved a
bid of seven hundred thousand dollars for a greenhouse at
Harriman High School. Now, I'm not sure sure what they're
doing in that greenhouse. I was seven hundred thousand dollars

(10:03):
seems like a lot of money. The versailles of greenhouse.
This is one heck.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
This must be one heck of a greenhouse that's the
size of a high school itself.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
It could be well. A lot of people are raising
questions about this, including our next guest. His name is
Sean Mathis. He's a concerned parent. I had a chance
to talk to him a short time ago and asked
him about how he learned of this and what was
his reaction.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
Yeah, I don't know when I got started, but I
learned about it at the third ass board meeting. I mean,
came up there just doing their normal bit approvals and
I watch almost every board meeting, have gotten involved in
the school and when this came up, I was just
dis maade that they were even considering a seven hundred
thousand dollars thirteen hundred square foot greenhouse. I became more

(10:45):
just made As people were defending it. We at least
had one school board member that said, I mean he
he just said, something.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Is wrong here.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
I don't know how we could even consider listening to
people who proposal It's just outragially crazy. And that was
my feelings. It was crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
The board members who spoke in favor of this wacky idea, Sean,
how were they defending it? What were they saying?

Speaker 8 (11:06):
Do you recall one of them mentioned that they were
going to have a facet in there with hot water.
They have a hot water heater, This would be good
for students.

Speaker 9 (11:18):
They really didn't have.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
A defense against it. Them, mostly because, in my opinion,
it's indefensible. I don't know how you can defend it.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
What are other people saying, who've heard of this, and
you maybe have spoken to as well, Sean, what are
they saying about it?

Speaker 8 (11:34):
They're equally just made. They just can't fathom a seven
hundred thousand dollars greenhouse. I was meeting with the construction
company they do large developments, just a day ago, and
I just brought this up to them in part of
our conversation, and they just laughed. They couldn't believe anybody
would spend this much money. It's and I get the
same response from all my neighbors everyone I talked to,

(11:56):
just as this how our tax money is being used?
Is this how little regard they have for our funds?

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Well, we've all been in well, I think most people
have been in a greenhouse, Sean. I mean, I don't
think it costs seven hundred thousand dollars to build one.
What are they putting in this greenhouse that makes it
so darn special and so darn expensive.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Nothing that I can tell. It's a plastic greenhouse with
a concrete foundation. I went over to a high school
and saw one that's similar that they build at Copper
Hills High School a few years back. There's nothing in it.
It's just a greenhouse. We've talked to others and they
just well, we talked to one individual here that he
owned a huge greenhouse, thirty thousand square foot greenhouse, and

(12:42):
he paid three hundred thousand dollars for three thirty thousand
square foot greenhouse. That's a commercial greenhouse. We're building a
thirteen hundred square foot greenhouse at a high school. It's
just one. It said. There's nothing they can do to
defend it other than they have I guess pretext them.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Are their rules that say, Sean, are you aware that
they have to spend this much money in the greenhouse,
that they have to take the highest bidder? I mean,
I would think you always want to look for the
best bidder or the lowest bidder, not the highest bidder.
But are are are are their hands tied by well,
they have to do this? Are you hearing that from
them at all?

Speaker 8 (13:22):
I'm not hearing that their hands are tied. They are
saying that this was the lowest bidder. So the only
thing I can conclude is that JSD the district has
a sign on their door that says we'll pay anything
bit high.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
No go ahead, Johnny had more to say, no best.

Speaker 8 (13:41):
What they're telling us is that this was a competitive bid.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And just go with it now. One thing I've heard
a district official say, I think it was in the
Channel two report that the there were some things that
they had to do, infrastructure steps they had to make,
and that drove up the cost. How much infrastructure do
you need in a greenhouse?

Speaker 8 (14:05):
I'm not aware of much. Here's what they said in
the board meeting. They've talked about a concrete foundation, a
fire alarm, and an intercom system. Oh and they had
it tied to the sewer system out out on the road.
That was their big infrastructure.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Wow, Where do you go from here with this? Sean?
I mean, is there anything you can do about it?
Or are you asking the board to take a second
look this? Where do you go from here?

Speaker 8 (14:33):
My understanding is that it can be rescinded. It's realy
enough now that they can undo it, but it would
take a vote from the board. So I'm hoping individuals
well let them know that this isn't how we want
our tax fun spent. We expect more responsible spending and
to undo what they've already started doing.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
You know, thank you Sean for joining us. Sean mathis
a concern parent about the amount of money being spent
on a greenhouse, telled municipal elections yesterday in this state,
AGA and really around the country. And one thing that
I think we do when we vote is we're saying
to those individuals who we vote for, we trust you
with using common sense and spending our tax dollars in

(15:13):
a reasonable way.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah correct, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Correct, So explain the common sense associated with seven hundred
thousand dollars for a greenhouse.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
This is what this show is for. I don't think
anybody knows that. I don't think it's defensible. In fact,
didn't we try to get some We have at least
two members of this Jordan school board Jordan school Board
that didn't vote for this. Yes, but we're unwilling to
come on the show, and certainly those that voted for
it aren't willing to come on the show. And so
I think they think if they just stay quiet, this

(15:45):
thing is going to blow over and no one's going
to find out. I don't think it's defensible. I think
it's a I think it's again, I've seen the costs
and comparisons of greenhouses you can buy that look quite fetching.
They look very beautiful. I don't know what you want
these kids to do. You can have the kids learn
how to build it. In the idea, they're probably a
trade school. Angle in the whole thing. You could have

(16:06):
the kid you get some labor out of these kids
to help build it and make it nice, and it
probably cost you fifty k, not seven hundred k.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Well, Sean shared with some information Greg. He was talking
to builder. A typical elementary school cost about four hundred
dollars in square foot to build.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Which is a lot.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
He broke this down. He broke this down. It's closer
down to five point fifty per square foot.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
For this greenhouse. Yeah. And the problem is the greenhouse,
you know, it doesn't have anyway, it's it's not constructed
the same way. It's building materials are different. And I
would argue that a that a you know, an elementary
schools building materials are more expensive than a greenhouse.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, and we should ask Carolyn Fippin if she'd like
a seven hundred thousand dollar greenow. I'm sure bet she would. Yeah, Wow,
all right, mare coming up Wingman Wednesday, Rod and Greg
Talk Radio one oh five nine kN RS. Greg had
a recent Salt Lake County Council meeting. Members were attacked
for their vote to close county run government run daycare centers.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
That that grassroots, that's just all that is is astro turf.
That isn't real grassroots. And look, you can't complain that
they are trying to propose what a twenty percent property
tax increase at the same time like to do at
the same time they're trying to cut government, cut cut it.
You can't complain about both. You can't say, how dare
you stop spending? How dare you want to raise taxes?

(17:31):
What I think you're seeing is they're a but levetless
at least some their attempt to to not need a
twenty percent tax increase. What do what do people want?
And I did these crowds that show up, they did
this down in Provo over you know, over another leftist issue.
I'm telling you this is not real grassroots. This is
astro turf.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, I had a chance to talk with a member
of the county Council, Amy wnder Newton, about this issue.
She's in favor of this, and I asked her, why
this issue and why these cuts to the county you're
so important.

Speaker 10 (18:03):
Well, first of all, I will say we didn't really
know we were in the daycare business. It was kind
of in the parks and rec budget, so it wasn't
something that was that I realized we were in the
business of up until recently. But let me kind of
take a step backwards and tell you why this is
so important. We talked before about how Mayor Jenny Wilson

(18:23):
proposed a twenty percent tax increase on Sala County residence.
So we've got nine council members, five of them are
Republicans for Democrats, and the Republicans have been really determined
to find cuts and figure out how do we streamline government,
how do we reign in spending, how do we make
sure that taxpayer dollars are as a sufficient as possible.

(18:44):
And we've got different buckets of money at the county.
So basically, you've got tours and taxes that fund the
nice to have some of the culture and arts, parks
and rec and like the convention centers to bring in tourists.
But then we have our general fund that's funded by
property tax and sales tax, and that is the fund
that we have to fund public safety, our jail prosecution,

(19:07):
we have elections, we have like our statutory duties in
that fund. And by cutting this two million dollars subsidy
for these daycres, that saves taxpayer money on property taxes.
And so for us, we're looking at this going this
is a no brainer. But I'll tell you what, Rod,
people get really angry when you've given them something and

(19:28):
then you take it away. And so we've had the
public come out and say, don't take away our daycares.
And keep in mind, these are even daycares for necessarily
low income families. We've got any income that's using these
daycares half price of what the private sector is charging.
And they've been doing it for years, and so the

(19:48):
Council has been making the hard decision. The Republicans stood
together said no, we are not going to subsidize two
million dollars of daycares for people when we have so
many people throughout the valley who are having a hard
time and making ends meet and paying for their own
daycare or giving up an income to stay at home
with a child or whatever it is. And that is
not an appropriate way to use these property tax funds.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Are there prices that the county charges for daycare competitive
with private daycare centers or are people getting the deal
through the county run facilities? Do you know, Amy?

Speaker 10 (20:19):
They I do know, And that's why there's this two
million dollar subsidy is because they're not They're about half
price of what you would pay through the private sector.
So not only are we using tax money in an
inefficient and effective way, but we are competing with the
private sector. We've got commercial, commercial child care facilities that
have spaces available right now in Salt Lake County and

(20:42):
they're worried about getting enough spots filled so that they
can stay in business. Government should not be competing with
these and so we're trying to transition these families and
doing the best that we can. We know it's hard
when you have to make a change like this, but
I feel in my soul this is not the role
of government. This is not a bug that the county
should be involved in, and we have to keep those

(21:02):
property taxes as well as possible.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Are there other areas in the county budget that could
be cut Amy to save these these daycare centers.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
Well, we're looking at all cuts. So one of the
other things that we cut yesterday was a senior center
that's only one point eight miles away from another senior
center and it's currently vacant waiting to be renovated. We
got looking at it and we said, you know what,
this is another place we can save four hundred thousand
dollars a year in our general fund, plus another six
to seven million in ongoing funds that we can use

(21:33):
for deferd maintenance and other senior centers. And so that
was another hard cut we made. That was the Republican
standing up. And I'll tell you, Rod, the hard thing
about this is we have lots of people reaching out
to us about don't cut my daycares, and I'm sure
we'll have the same with the senior center. We're not
getting very many people telling us, yes, we need you
to take hard looks at the budget and do this

(21:55):
to help us. And so if anybody has comments, we'd
love to hear him. You can email the whole council
at councilwebx at Salt Lake County dot gov. But we
want to hear from people because we know it's not
just a few people who are looking for government to subsidize,
you know, their everyday activities. We have people who care

(22:15):
about keeping those property taxes as well as possible.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
I know this probably I'm surprised if this question hasn't
come up, Amy, that the mayor has proposed her budget.
I think it's about a twenty percent tax in Greece,
and her staff that some members of her staff are
very well paid, and they're saying, well, if you're going
to cut, take a look at that. I mean, that
question probably has come up. And how do you respond
to that.

Speaker 10 (22:36):
Amy, You know what that is. That's a hard question.
We have three deputy mayors. Now, if I was the mayor,
I probably wouldn't make three people with the title of
deputy mayor, but that's what she's chosen to do. But
I will tell you this, Rod, these are these three
people are fantastic assets to the county and they all
have large portfolios. So they're not just advisors to the mayor.
They're actually managing large portfolios of all of our agencies

(22:59):
and department events. And so I would that one. I've
had a hard time wanting to look at cutting because
we need these people. I mean, you've got to have,
you know, director level management to be able to ensure
everything else is run efficiently, and so that one isn't
where I'm looking for cuts as much on those three positions.

(23:20):
But I can understand people's frustration when they hear deputy
mayor they're just assuming that their assistance to the mayor,
they don't recognize that they're actually managing large portfolios and
overseeing a lot of budgetary funding. So I can see
that that's a concern. We are looking at cutting other positions,
though you should know that you know in the mayor's
proposed budget, we've already cut dozens of positions that have

(23:42):
been proposed and will continue to do so over the
next few weeks.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
You've heard from a lot of angry people in the
daycare issue, but you say there are many out there
who would go along with what you're saying about the
government shouldn't be involved in daycare centers. What do they
need to do? Does the council need to hear from them?
What do you recommending, Namy, We do need.

Speaker 10 (24:00):
To hear from them. Our next council meeting where we'll
be discussing the budget, is Tuesday, November eighteenth, at ten
am at the Salt Lake County Government Center. They can
also email the full council. It's both the Democrats and
Republicans on the council at that councilwebex at salt Lake
County dot gov. Email address that I.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Gave earlier on our Newsmaker line or conversation with Amy
Wynder Newton, she is a member of the Salt Lake
County Council talking about government funded, government run daycare centers, Greg,
should they be in that business? No? No, that's easy now.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
And again, I think that there is greater scrutiny on
this county for the taxes they want to increase property
taxes and where they need to go cut go cut,
And again when the councilman talks about these positions that
need to be filled, you got no complaint for me.
I get it. But at two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars a year or the amount when you're outpacing the

(24:56):
public sector and I'm in a private sector, rather, it's
it's it's too much. It just frankly is so. I
think that I think the FTEs are a real thing,
but I think that FTEs traditionally have not been You
get great benefits. But you're lower than the private sector.
And when you're out pacing and you're taking away from
the private sector because you're sore, your salaries are so high,

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that's a bad sign.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
That is all right, we'll get your reaction to that.
And also the seven hundred thousand dollars I'm thinking of
the toilet seat. Remember that? What was the Air Force
toilet seat that cost him? Remember that years ago?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, and they used to have the thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Hammers and this reminds me of seven hundred thousand dollars greenhouse.
That's okay.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
I'm hoping we we I think we have some good, astute,
smart listeners that have some talkback messages for us.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
And we'll get the phone goals coming down on that.
It's the Wingman Wednesday edition of the Rod and Greg
Show on Talk Radio one five nine knrs.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
No one's going to listen to me. I know I
don't have the I don't have the luxury of opinion.
I know how to do this. You don't want to
be housing zar as all these people promising people cheap houses.
You can't do it. You don't want government to do it.
Their houses are terrible. What government has ever provided housing
that you think you'd ever want to live in. None. No,
there's a way. There is a way, a free market way,

(26:12):
a conservative way. But I can't get anyone to do.
It drives me crazy. Has anyone ever called you a
humble I'm very humble. Just ask me.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I just want to tell you.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I know it, I know, I know the answer. It's
not an opinion. And I hear all these politicians and
everyone to get your get your affordable housing. You're not
going to artify. Government's not going to artificially creative it.
You start giving people money for houses, the inflationary factor
of those houses go up by the exact amount of
money government hands them.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's not going to work that well with the American
rescue plan to do this country. That was Biden's plan.
It fueled inflation, and everybody's complaining about inflation. It takes
time to bring this down. It is coming down. Is
it as low as we'd like to get it? Pretty
darn clothes, But it's gonna take some time. We're still
dealing with the American rescue plan. It is and that's
what it's all about, folks.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
And it is unacceptable that we have lost a decade.
Young people have lost a decade in terms of average
age to purchase a home in America. That is the
American dream. That is unacceptable. But the way to fix it,
it's not going to happen tomorrow. It's not going to
happen fast. There is a there is a free market
way to make this happen, especially here in Utah. We
have so much potential for this, but it takes a

(27:27):
plan and it takes a while for that to happen.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
Do it.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, I don't hear it, and I'm not king for
a day, so I can't make it happen. But I
know I know how to do it now, as politicians.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Do number out today, the average age of the first
time home buyer in this country is now at forty
years old.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, and think about that years old. So where your
kids being born and where are they being raised when
you can't ford a home to you're forty.

Speaker 3 (27:50):
I was twenty four when I first purchased my first home.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I was twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
You're twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
I was twenty.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
But it's gone up age forty now. Can you think
about that, waiting until you're forty years old to have
your first home.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah. And for me, at twenty nine, I was the
first in generations to own my own home. My grandmother
didn't own My mother did never owned a home. My
grandmother didn't. You know. It's I was proud at twenty
nine to be able to do it. I lived in
a state in Utah and a country in America where
not having that, I was able to do it. My
kids in their twenties right now.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Good luck.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, and that is that is. But I don't it's
not a mom, donnie. I'm going to hand it to
you and make government pay for a thing. But there
is a free market solution just staring us in the face.
We just don't do it.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Come on socialism. There's alationship. All right, when we come back,
we'll get to your phone calls. We'll talk about the
seven hundred thousand dollars green house and the county daycare centers.
That's all, okayming your calls, your comments next.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I'm just laughing, why cause all these people are just
so I just think it's so funny that people are
so like there's a lot of hand ringing and pearl
clutching over this election. Last night. I'm just seeing it
online and I'm like, you guys, just chill out. I mean,
these were tough states, These were not Republican bastions. I mean,
I just think it's what the worst thing that everyone

(29:10):
could do. And don't be like politicians. Politicians do two things,
and I used to be a politician, but I try
to resist these two things. They can either do nothing
or they can overreact. Okay, don't overreact. Don't do nothing.
I mean, let's keep let's keep the let's keep the
dream alive, let's keep working hard, let's stay involved, civically engaged,
all that. But don't overreact. I mean, come on, these

(29:32):
these races were never ours. We were we were excited
that we were in the We thought we were in
the game. But I look, I think the Democrats they
have caused a lot of chaos. I think they certainly
have slowed down this president's economic recovery with shutting down
the government. It's it's going to continue to weigh this
economy down as the government shut down, especially airflight and
things like that. And I think the Democrats want that.

(29:54):
I think that's their best case against.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
You know what, I'm so happy about what every problem
we haven' this country and We've got a lot of challenges,
right yep, are about to be solved. Oh to tell government?
Oh you heard him, DONI last night government said there's
not there's no problem either too big or too small
that government cannot solve.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
He did say that he does believe that I.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
Don't have any worries anymore because government is going to
take care of it.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
And he's speaking from the from the mayor's office. Man,
I mean, he's not even like a you know, he's
not even speaking from the state of New York. He
thinks from the governor's office or the mayor's office. There
is no problem big enough that that the city's government
cannot take on, and nothing small enough in your life
that they can't dive into and and satisfy to their satisfaction.

(30:42):
By the way, yeah's to their satisfaction.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Could they solve your golf game?

Speaker 1 (30:46):
No, no, that's not. First off, I have grooved into
a nice bogey golf life that I'm not really happy with.
I'm yeah, I'm not really looking. I'm not working on
the game per se. I'm just I'm kind of a
bogey golfer.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
I'm You're happy that, all right? Two issues that we
talked about in the last hour. Didn't get your reaction,
but we wanted now. First of all, we have the
story in Harriman. Harriman High School, the Jordan School District
has moved forward now and approved the construction of a
seven hundred thousand dollars greenhouse. Now, know, I bet we
have a lot of listeners, Greg who have a greenhouse,

(31:20):
you know, and they like to tinker in the greenhouse.
So I wonder how much their greenhouse cost him. Now,
it's not for a high school, it's you know, for
a family. But you know, we want to get your
thoughts on the seven hundred thousand dollars greenhouse. The other
story we talked about is the Salt Lake County Council.
The county Council right now is trying to put a
budget together maryor Jenny Wilson. Comrade Wilson has come out

(31:42):
and said she needs a twenty percent increase. She has
three or four deputies. He weach make well into the
two to three hundred thousand dollars range when it comes
to their salary. Okay, Now, the county apparently has found
as Amy Winder Newton mentioned in our last half hour
that in the county's recreation budget is money to support
county run daycare centers. When they found out that issue

(32:07):
and they're trying to cut the budget, they said, guess
what we're no longer going to pay for.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, there's private and they are private combs to do daycare.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
That do that. So, you know, and of course all
those people who use the daycare centers up in the arms,
flooding council meetings, trying to convey and the media is
there getting, you know, telling all these sad stories, but
never telling the truth about what the county is trying
to do and the fact that the county should not
be in the business of providing daycare to your children.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
One of the one of the observations I thought was
very important is that these members of the council weren't
even aware they were necessarily in the daycare business, which
again means that that is money that's being spent hand
over fist without without being safeguarded or watched or and
so that's what they're doing. They're doing that, and you know,

(32:56):
again I go back, you can't we cannot complain that
we do not want to have our property taxes the
Saltlay County portion of our property tax raise twenty percent
and not expect them to start going line by line
and finding the issue that the costs that are not
essential government services is a proper role of government. That
is what they should be doing. And I congratulate them

(33:17):
and thank them for going through this budget to get
it right, because the just you know, pay for everything
and tax more when you run out of money. That's
that's not what we in Utah should be used to.
Which is not what we should that is not our standard.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, So we want to get your thoughts on this tonight.
Eight eight eight five seven eight zero one zero eight
eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on your
cell phone dial pound two fifteen, say hey, Rod leave,
it's gumming on our talk back line. Those of you
who own a greenhouse, I'd like to know how much
you're paid for it.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
The gilded greenhouse. What is the gilded greenhouse? Gilded green
going rate? Yeah, seven hundred thousand dollars? Is that going right?
Apparently it is for Airman and high school. And of
course should the government.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Be involved in daycare center because that's what county Salt
Lake County is involved in right now. And the council
councils saying no.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
And here's the thing. I think school districts have daycare centers.
They do. I think they have pre k have pre
kindergarten center. So you have school districts that have them already.
H to what degree, I don't know, but I do
know they exist. But now you have county run ones
in addition to the government run ones that are within
a school district.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
I don't like government competing against the private set. Now
it should and that's exactly what's going on here, you know,
And I think you know no, I mean, it's that easy.
You shouldn't be involved in it. That is a private
enterprise and you should let the private sector take care
of it.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yes, I agree, it's you know, kids won't know this.
Kids won't know the phone book test. If you open
up the phone book and you can find it in
the phone book as a company or a business, then
government shouldn't do it.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Yeah, well that's that's so open up the phone book.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, open up the yellow pages.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yellow are there still yellow pages? But if you open
up the yellow pages, you're boy, you're dating yourself. Open
up the yellow pages, you're looking for something. You see
it in the phone book, go to it.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Then don't. Then government doesn't need it yet, it doesn't.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Need it's either eight eight eight five seven eight zero
one zero on your cell phone dial pound two fifty
and say hey Ron or on your talk back line.
Just download the iHeartRadio applic for kN RS and you
can leave us a message. I think we've got a
couple of talkback comments. Fingers crossed the work. But this
let's hear what they're having to say tonight. Now it's

(35:33):
not working again.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
You played them at a commercial break.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Oh, e play those two if you would please. Hey,
Rod and Gregg.

Speaker 11 (35:46):
I'm in the process of getting bids for a greenhouse
and it's going to be exceptionally nice. It's more of
a decoration than anything. But I can tell you what.
I'll accept that seven hundred thousand dollars bid and I
guarantee all pockets six k off of it. And two
the guy that was in Captain Phillips, he didn't get

(36:06):
elected mayor of Minneapolis.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
That's a good thing, that's true.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yes, you know, and I did. I did take note
of that. I was convinced he was gonna win and
he didn't win. And that is good, that is it?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, have you seen what happened in Seattle because there
was another socialist on the bell. I think the the
incumbent mayor won there, I believe, but that may have
been another blow to the socialist movement.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Man, if you told me yesterday that Minneapolis would be
our shining star of sanity, I would not have That's
not the jurisdiction I would have picked. But I'm glad
that they didn't do it because that guy that was
a really poorly run campaign. Ort least, I think he
alienated a lot of people from Minneapolis that aren't Somalian
and so I yea.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
So all right, here's another comment from our talk back line.

Speaker 12 (36:52):
Aren't Harriman School's part of the Salt Lake County School System?
Shouldn't we be voting on something like that? Once again,
another taj Mahal addition to a school that probably is

(37:13):
affording some people some kickback.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
It is part of the Jordan School District.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
The duly elected board have duly elected board members who
vote on these things. And I don't know if they're
pursuing a tax increase uh for the school district or not.
But but the seven hundred thousand for the greenhouses is
our The two talkbacks said, there's a ton of money
that's not You can't really, it's hard to it's hard
to justify. And then uh, and then and the daycare No, wait,

(37:45):
the but the Jordian School District, not Sally County, is
in charge of that. But they they're accountable to their
public servants.

Speaker 3 (37:50):
Here's a talkback coming on the daycare.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
Issue there on Greg Happy Wednesday, just about.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
The thing about daycare and if the government should be involved.
I think generally our society needs the parents much more
involved and the government much less involved. A men to that, Yeah,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
These leftists social engineers, they want from cradle to grave
to start steering people in mass And by the way,
even if they try to tell you it's because they're
so generous and they care so much, it's really to
create the caste system they've missed for so long. They
really don't like the American way of self liberty, you know,
self freedom of self determination, upward mobility, leaving the class

(38:33):
in which you were born in and be able to
do more. You rise and fall by the equal opportunity,
not equal outcome. The social leftists don't want any of that.
They want you born, and they want you to live
and pass away in a station in life and don't
get out of your lane. It's much easier to compel
the population that way, and that's what they want, That's
why they want to do it.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
That is all right, More your calls, more your talk
back comments coming up on the Rod and Greg Show
and Utah's Talk Radio one oh five to nine k
n rs on the Rout and Greg Show about first
of all, the county's decision to get out of the
daycare business. Good. Yes, the county is preparing to vote
on that now. They've heard from a lot of people
who are very opposed to this, and we had Councilwoman

(39:16):
Amy Winder Newton on a short time ago, so that
the council needs to hear from people who agree with us.
And my guess is, Greg, there are a lot of
people who agree with.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Them, Yes, especially when they're trying to trim that budget
so they don't have to raise our taxes twenty percent.
We got it. We can't see that twenty percent increase
and how are they how are we going to make
that argument that we don't want our taxes raised if
there's not. They don't start cutting that budget. Cut the cut.
There's fat in that budget, you know it. And this
is an example. And I think everybody that showed up

(39:43):
and was you know, upset, it's the same you know,
astro turf grass It's not even real grassroots. These are
people that are paid protesters. They show up all the
time to congressional you know, town hall meetings that they
showed up down in Provo over Ice, you know, at
the Utah County Council meeting, like everybody's worried about, you know,

(40:04):
illegals being you know arrested for breaking the law. They
made that look like it was some kind of you know,
terrible thing that was happening anyway. And this is just
another example of it. These are paid protesters that the
left does it. And I think anyone that listens to
this program would want to see less spending and lower taxes.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Yeah, tax money in the county greg according to Amy
Wyndard Newton, serving two hundred and seventy one kids, that's
what those daycare centers are now serving two hundred and
seventy one kids. How much two hundred and seventy one Yeah,
what was the number I think it's two million dollars. Yeah,
something like that.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Yeah, well, I tell you, just a lot of greenhouses
in that daycare center. I think they got. I think
they went and they combined them. They went and got
greenhouses and daycares put them all together.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Get out of here, you go, Geese. I wonder if
they're growing something in that greenhouse. You and I don't know.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I don't know. Seven hundred grand. You know, mentally they
can say it's revenue generating, it's not.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
You know, it's not, well, maybe it is. You just
to know what they're growing, Well they are. I liked
your idea. Okay, there are kids. If you want to
learn trade schools, they're they're enrollment is just bursting at
the seams. Kids have realized a degree in the mating
habits of a teachy fly are not going to get
them a job.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
The sociology degree is not.

Speaker 3 (41:20):
Going to What you need is a skill. So why
not let the kids at Harriman High and maybe the
Jordan School district build that greenhouse?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I mean, what are you going to build a fake house?
Tear it down while you're paying someone through the nose
to build this gilded greenhouse. Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Give them the materials. Let's say, you know, with supervision,
teach them how to. I couldn't do it, but I
bet there are a lot of kids would like to learn.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I'm telling you there's trade schools that can do it.
That is the way. That would be a smart way,
and at least you would It would never cost what
they're going to.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Pass seven hundred thousand.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
It will be less and you would be delivering education
at the same time you're building your greenhouse. Does every
school have a greenhouse? Is that like a thing?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
I don't. I don't think so. Oh no, I bet
it didn't cost seven hundred thousand dollars. No, No, I love.
I love the school district's response on this one. Greg, Well,
there are other projects like this throughout the state.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Yeah, well, we don't like those either. Just bring those
up too. We'll complain about those as well. We're not.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
It's called transparency, folks. Let the public know.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
You know, when I was building back way way back,
when guy I had doing concrete, he was a great
concrete guy, and I was calling him to do a
job and he's like, yeah, I'm out of the private sector.
I'm not doing commercial stuff. I'm not doing concrete. I said,
why is that. I got this contract with the school district.
I just do these sheds. I just pour the concrete pad.
They put the shed over it. I just put the pad.

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But it's more money than I get doing commercial jobs.
I'm like, wow, Okay, So he'd stop doing private stop
taking bids, stop doing that because he had a sweetheart
deal with the school district, just pouring pads that they
put their you know, they had put their lawnmowers and
stuff on, but they'd put the shed on. But he
just poured the pad and he didn't have to work
doing other stuff because he's making a mint doing this.

(43:10):
And that was a while ago.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
You know, this leads this whole thing, Greg. I think
the greenhouse, the cost of the greenhouse, leads me to
a bone I've had to pick for a long time.
The amount of money that we spend on building new schools.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yes, and it's disproportionate. It is because we use we
use an income tax for the in class instruction, teacher salaries,
a curriculum, everything else. But the schools themselves are built
and financed by your property tax. And that's where you
see the property tax. You go to places where there's
high property tax or you know, or high valuations, you

(43:44):
see these schools that are ridiculously beautiful. People that are
out of from out of state, who probably have more
money per student being spent on a student in other
states come to Utah see these schools and think, wow,
you must spend more than anyone in America because look
at these schools. We've never seen schools like this before.
And it's it's because it's the disconnect is it's property tax.

(44:05):
It pays for the construction of those schools, they bond
for it, and then it's your income tax. It pays
for the school in schools instruction. Yeah, and that's equalized.
I mean, that's kind of the weighted pupil unit. So
whether you live in Park City or Rose Park, the
amount for pupils the same, but property tax is not
the same in these different jurorsys.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
You know what I hear some schools are doing greg
and I do like this idea. I think it's I
know of one or two now junior high schools out
in Davis County on the west side of Davis County
where the city I don't know if they pay or
help pay for it, use the school as a community center.
So all the Saturday morning junior jazz basketball and all
that is now being used by those schools. So they

(44:44):
don't just sit there idle from Friday until the next Monday.
They're actually and I like that coop cooperative effort that's
been made between communities and their school.

Speaker 1 (44:53):
We've seen some good examples of that. We've seen some.
You have to just make sure that you're never making
the community center at a time for a adults where
students would be there though, where you just don't you
don't cross pollinate the adults around the kids at the
same at the school. But schools certainly should be a
community center and they should be used for those I

(45:13):
ran a bill years ago where you know, there was
it was tough to get football fields or foot fields
for different sports, and in some districts were rest less
willing to offer up their schools for practices and things,
and so we made there's a law now that says
it is a public public and you have a right
you can use it. You can reserve that all.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Right, More your calls coming up, more your talk about
comments as well on the routing Greg show it is
the Wingman Wednesday edition on Talk Radio one five nine
kN R S about a seven hundred thousand dollars greenhouse
at the at Harriman High School, and then about Salt
Lake County which is designing to cuttage to get out
of the daycare center business shouldn't be there to begin with,

(45:54):
to save the county about two hundred or two million dollars.
Let's go to the phones and get your reaction to
what's going on tonight. Greg, Let's go to Barry, who's
in Draper. Thank you for holding Berry. Welcome to the
Rod and Greg show.

Speaker 13 (46:08):
Thank you. My comment is really for you, Greg. This
seven hundred thousand dollars greenhouse approved by the Jordan's School
Board is not unique to the school board. Perhaps you
could inform the public, Greg about your experience when you're

(46:28):
in the legislature. We're dealing with that school board and
how they're voting, and there what I'm going to call
malfeasance led to the creation of the Canyons School District.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Barry, you have good institutional memory, sir. You are a
citizen soldier. Yeah, we were. As Draper City, we had
as many residents as Riverton as a city. They had
a high school, two middle schools, Harriman High School at
that time. This is over how long ago it would
be fifteen years ago or more. I just finished. They're
one hundred million dollar Harriman High School, which was a

(47:03):
number we had never seen in the construction of a
school ever. While on the where we lived, we were
seeing they had land, but there wasn't a single school
to be found, a high school, middle school, anything like that.
You had to bus kids further away. And you just
kept seeing these schools that were being built on the
west part of Assaultlake County, southwest part, more extravagant and

(47:25):
more extravagant as you go, and something had to be done.
The school district was split, first split in one hundred years,
and what what do you know? We had schools built.

Speaker 14 (47:33):
Now.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
I will say that that Canyon School District is a
little little little prey. It was. It wasn't a hundred
million Herriman school. It was about a sixty five I
think a sixty five million dollars school, which was still
a lot of money, but it's it's even architecturally more
significant than what you need a high school to be.
If you look at other schools that are built, but
we only we really only saw schools built in communities,

(47:56):
like we have a middle school, like I said, in
high school because we had to get away from that
Jordan school district and the way they were making decisions.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
You know what they do in Texas, and I wish
they'd think about it here, Greg, they don't have these
large school districts like you do here in the state
of Utah. Every school district is an independent school district.
In the state of Texas.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
In Pittsburgh, the same thing your high school was your feet.
All the elementary schools feed the middle schools or junior
highs that feed to a high school, and that in
and of itself was a school district.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah. Yeah, And I you know, I look at Davids County,
think they're what eight or nine high schools and David's
School district now something like that. I don't think they
can be responsive to parents when you have that many
schools and that many students. I don't think you can.
When I was on the clock, Alpine just split.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yes. When I was on the clock, you know, I
was arguing for smaller schools for the reasons you just
shared that that you're more responsive your tax payer dollars.
You're going to be watching it a lot more closes.
It's hard in Draper to see how they're spending it
out in harrim And you have no idea. Yeah, and
we didn't have a lot of what we thought were
a school district responsive to our needs. So I was
very much an advocate of smaller school But they say,

(49:00):
you know, you get an economy of scale when you
have only one superintendent versus more, You're gonna actually save money. No,
I'm gonna tell you hasn't turned out that way. You're
there wasn't an economy of scale there. I think schools
that are closer to the communities of which they serve
are better run.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Yeah, they're more responsive too, they really are. Fifteen Kevin's
there tonight, wants to weigh in on the rod In
Greg Show. Hi, Kevin, how are you.

Speaker 7 (49:27):
I'm doing good.

Speaker 8 (49:28):
How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
We're doing well? Thank you Kevin your thoughts.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
I just want to say, I'm my daughter went to
Syracuse High School and she took a construction class. In
that construction class, they actually built houses wow for the year,
and it gave those kids a trade that they could
work on and also build a house, or at least

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do quite a bit of it. Why couldn't they do
something like that for the greenhouse. Teach kids a skill,
the ones that want to do something like that, and
give them that opportunity.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
I think that is it's your idea, Greg, that's right.
I think it's the terrific idea.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Sign these kids up that he is one hundred percent right.
You could give him a skill, they would learn how
to do it. I'm staring at eBay. I just said, okay,
I want to buy a greenhouse on eBay. I'm staring
at one. It's big. It says the three hundred thousand
square feet. You could pick this puppy up. I could
bid if I buy it. Now. I only have to
bid if I buy it, and I could buy it
for twelve three hundred and forty five bucks. Now. It
probably doesn't include the concrete pad. But it's quite fancy.

(50:33):
It's got the big fans, the lights, it's got it's
got a lot, it's it's got all the whistles. Yeah,
but I don't tell that part.

Speaker 15 (50:41):
No.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
But look I see it as it's being constructed before.
But you know they even list what the price per
square foot is for the plumbing and stuff, and it's
less than this. How much did they say? Five hundred? Yeah? Yeah,
there are numbers like fourteen dollars a square foot greenhouse,
six fifty a square foot for the foundations and the plumbing. Wow,
maybe George's goes out to go to eBay, had a look.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Take a look Amazon.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Shopper and see if you're getting the deal that you've
been told your.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Game in Salt Lake City. We're talking with Rick tonight
on the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 16 (51:15):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
Rick, Hey, how you guys doing tonight? We're doing well.
Thank you for asking.

Speaker 12 (51:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Yeah, it was more of a question of they shut
down the greenhouse at Liberty Park this year, even though
the Parks Department got a lot of money to fix
them up. They're doing a good job there, even though
they did shut down some parks around town. How come
we can't just give that greenhouse to those students.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Oh there's another good.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It's a fully functioning, fully functioning they got the funding.
It's you know, right next to the AVI area and
everything else. Why not hand it over instead of it
just being dead land.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
I'm guessing it'd be cheaper than seven hundred k. I
get that work there.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Well, Aaron Mendenhall's mayor, I'll think about it. You want
this s greenhouse, he will cost you a mill Yeah. Yeah,
because I've got to support my my socialist programs that
i have in the city.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
I am waiting for her to invite mem Donnie out here.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I'm waiting for her to start at supermarkets. She's going
to start her own supermarkets. You watch, She's gonna see.
This is the only thing. This is why Democrats can't
have nice things. They hear from each other and they
get these bad ideas. She's going to start telling us
that we need government run supermarkets here soon because she's
going to see how popular he is at least right now.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Mem Donnie on MSNBC Morning Joe This Morning, he wants
to immediately start thirty dollars an hour minimum wage in
New York City. That's next for Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
See. I just think some of these things need to
play out. They elected them, you know, deal with that, folks, coach.
Let's see how that plays out. I just think it
fails like it did. Where have they done this? They
did it in California.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Twenty dollars back twenty dollars an hour, and they lost
they've lost thousands of jobs.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
They have they lived on the kiosks that they use
instead of people because it's it's more affordable for them
to stay open, all right, where they close out right.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, we've got some talkback comments and we'll get to
those when we come back on the Wednesday edition The
wing Man Wednesday edition of the Rod and Greg Show
and Talk Radio one oh five nine kN rs. Right now,
we've been talking with you tonight about the greenhouse at
Harriman High School with a cost of seven hundred thousand
dollars and Salt Lake County making a decision to close
its government run daycare centers two hundred and seventy one

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students are kids, at a cost of two million dollars.
The county says, we just found this out and it's
not going to continue any longer.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, good. I'm glad that they're taking a you know,
a positive yeah. Line by line accounting of the budget.
They're learning things about that budget and they're trying to
cut and I think that's what we would expect before
they start asking to raise our taxes.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Yeap, let's go to our talkback line and hear what
some of our listeners having to say on one of
these issues tonight.

Speaker 15 (53:57):
White in the world, would a school need a screen
house if they didn't have like a botany program or something.
And I doubt the school has, you know, a botany
program that I would need such a thing. But yeah,
let the students build it. Davis School District builds I
think two or three houses a year that the construction

(54:18):
students do and their DA code and they sell them
afterwards and pay for the program.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Wow. Does the kids get a take on that?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
No, but they learn a skill, learn a skill. I
don't feed them for a day. I just yeah, got
them for life because they learned that they have a skill.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Do we have a nerve talked about comment anyway? Yeah?
All right, here's another comment here.

Speaker 9 (54:41):
On a great quick note about schools and community centers
they currently are and it's kind of a bit shady
in my opinion. So Utah County GOP held their convention
at Skyridge High School in America and Lehigh pay thousands
of dollars to do so. The schools charge zuperant prices
to rent out their facilities and then they turn them
down and use that money on things that they are

(55:02):
explicitly not allowed to spend taxpayer money on. But they say, well,
this is income from this from renting our spaces. So
it's a double sword.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I wonder what they're spending the money on.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
I don't know, but I don't like that because I
thought I thought that the law was that it's a
public it's public property, it's paid with public dollars in it,
so it's it is inherently a public facility where the
people should have access to it.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Is there another one there, e Ray, I think there is.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
I just wanted to tell you that the Salt Lake
County Arts have a five million dollars surplus in their coffers.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Wow, is that from the tax that's a whistleblower. We
just heard she had totally busted them five million dollars
Zoo Arts and Parks.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Yeah, yeah, called ZAP tax, yeah, SAPT tax. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
No, if there is a surplus, go there before you
come after us.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
You know.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Just I mean, there's a I think that's what's healthy
about them having to And hats off to you folks,
because I will tell you that the reason you're seeing
line by line and you're seeing a careful accounting of
that accounting budget is because of Jenny maryor Jenny Wilson
announcing this twenty percent property tax increase and people not
being happy about it. And so the Republicans those we

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expect you to be physic fiscally conservative, they're going to
go they're doing that work. They do not want to
have to turn to the taxpayer and say we want
to raise your taxes. So they're going to go stare
at that budget. And that's the refiners fire that should
be happening. And so I'm glad that they're going through
that exercise. And I would just say they're going through
it because they've heard from you. People are upset about that.

(56:44):
We've had you on the our lines light up when
we talk about these tax increases. People are frustrated. And
then you hear callers like the last one that says
there's a surplus in the arts account that you don't
have to raise taxes. There's other ways that you can.
You can look to use money, taxpayer money for its
highest and best use.

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Yeah, yeah, all right, we'll talk about last night's election.
That's all coming up. Our number three of the riding
bricks show. All right, big night last night. The Democrats
are singing, joyfully, jumping up and down, doing everything they
can to celebrate what they think was a big win
last night. Of course, it was in the states of

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New York, Virginia, and New Jersey, not what we would
call bastions of conservatism in any way.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
No, no, I again, it's so weird. It's like, just
imagine if Democrats lost in Utah and everyone was saying, whoa,
the Democrats lost in Utah. Oh, the Democrat Party's over
and they haven't really been doing all that well here
to begin with. So I don't know that that's a
big bell weather for the rest of the country. It's
kind of the state the race is held in.

Speaker 11 (57:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Well, here's what the President had to say this morning
about last night's vote.

Speaker 17 (57:54):
Last night, it was not expected to be a victory.
It was very Democrat area. But I don't think he
was good for Republicans. I don't think it was good.
I'm not sure it was good for anybody. But we
had an interesting evening and we learned a lot. But
I thought we'd have a discussion after the press leaves
about what last night represented and what we should do

(58:15):
about it, and also about the shutdown and how that
relates to last night. I think if you read the posters,
the shutdown was a big factor negative for the Republicans,
and that was a big factor. And they say that
I wasn't on the ballot was the biggest factor. But
I don't know about that, but I was honored that

(58:36):
they said that.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
Well, there is a certain magnetism about one Donald Trump
when he's on the ballot. Things happen when he's not there.

Speaker 7 (58:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Now, the Republican Party greg he won't be on the
ballot next fall, he won't be there in twenty twenty eight,
so they've got some challenges.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
No, he does bring out the low propensity voter. Is
someone that will find that we'll make the effort to
vote if he's on the ballot, and Republicans have to
find that kind of appeal that he has always had.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah, well, let's talk to our good friend Chase Jennings
about this. Chase is founder of Jennings Strategic Group also
a former spokesman for the Department of Homeland Security. Jase,
what do you make of this and what about Republicans?
Can they learn to walk into gum when Donald Trump
is not on the ballot, well, you.

Speaker 18 (59:17):
Know, the president's so popular, right, so anytime any Democrat
or Republican you lose your horse, it's going to be
you got to have a replacement. I think JD. I
think others could be that Mark Rubio. But when he's
not on the ballot, Republicans have to find a way
to find some success, and we, frankly haven't been able
to do it anytime. Mostly you know, mostly that he's

(59:37):
not been on the ballot. So I think there's a
few ways you can look at what took place. I mean,
one is just a complete Republican beat down, which I
know some people agree with and others disagree with.

Speaker 9 (59:47):
I don't.

Speaker 18 (59:48):
I don't think many people thought that Virginia was really
going to go and stay Republicans. You know, New York,
New Jersey, California, those are obviously deep blue states. You know,
Georgia's arbacy concern. And so when you're looking at how
do how do we get past what happened, I think
you've got to have what I call Trump energy. You know,
you've got a guy who trump floods the zone. The

(01:00:10):
guy has been to China, Cambodia. He was just in
obviously in Japan, Israel obviously a huge peace deal. He's
been to the Vatican for the you know, he's been
all over the world. I call him mister Worldwide, and
he is also when he comes home. He's constantly doing stuff.
Republicans need to take that and they need to put
it into form in Congress and so that that's legislatively,

(01:00:35):
that's investigation, that's taking what people know that the MAGA
movement is all about, and doing things legislatively. I feel
like me and I'd love to hear y'all know this,
but I think many people in Congress or many people
in the country forel like Congress is almost in neutral
instead of in driving. I think that's something that's really
got to change moving forward.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
You know, New York City, I don't worry about Maybe
I should, but it seems like that's Democrat on Democrat crime.
I mean, that's just that. That'd be like someone, you know,
a Democrat losing in in Utah. That would not be
a big story because it's predominantly a Republican states. New
York City would be a very tough place to see, uh,
to see something saying happen. The one that blows my

(01:01:14):
mind is Virginia. And only because this this attorney general
UH candidate that the God elected who spoke about fantasizing
on homicidal you know, just committing crime, shooting someone in
their family, UH to be the attorney general. It just
seems like it is a party of violence, if that
is acceptable. But my question to you is, did the

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did the shutdown because there must be a lot of
federal I'm imagining that federal employees that that live in
Virginia was the shut down and the chaos that created?
Did that did that help the prospects of the Democrats
on the statewide ballot in Virginia this year? Do you think.

Speaker 18 (01:01:50):
That's a good question. I think it to your point
and question it may it may have had an influence.
I think the main influence was and you hear about
you know, let me let me go back for a second.
You know, Virginia, the past five out of seven gubernatorials
have gone Democrat. You've got two Democrat senators in the state.
I would actually argue you could make an argument that

(01:02:10):
Virginia's blue, you know, And so I don't know that
you know, when you when you talk about whin some
series of several people talking about her criticism of Donald Trump,
which obviously is going to hurt her fundraising, which is
not going to let her put her best foot forward.
So there were several things I think came together to
hurt her campaign. To your point about the Jay Jones
portion of it, where you've got a guy who literally

(01:02:31):
it's fantasizing about shooting the former Speaker of the House
in Virginia over Hitler and Polpot that guy you know,
escaped and won last night, which is I think it
sends a big message to everybody that politics is a
dirty game to play. You know, it's not really we
want to make it seem like it's this. You know,
it's to quote Phil Davison. I don't know if you

(01:02:51):
remember him, but he had that crazy speech years ago.
But politics is a winner take all. I mean, it's
it's it's a it's a it's a power sport. You know,
politics is that way. And so when you have to
stay like Virginia, I would have loved for it to
stay rid. I know a lot of the polls would
have made it difficult, but certainly I think that Attorney
General's right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:08):
Is that's a tough one, Jase. We know with the
with the Democrats, the Trump derangement syndrome is so deep
they're willing to I think, what bare feet on hot
coals just to beat the guy? Can we find the
hot goals an issue like that to beat the Democrats back?
When it comes to twenty twenty six and twenty twenty eight,

(01:03:30):
is there an issue an individual? Is it socialism and
communism taking over the country? What issue have they got
to find to really walk on the hot coals for?

Speaker 18 (01:03:40):
That's a good point. I think you do have to find. Unfortunately,
in politics, did you have to gin up support, you know,
in some way? And so you've got in Congress. I
think that's where it's going to start. You've got it.
The American people need to see some momentum for what
they care about. People care about law fair, They don't
want the government coming after them, right. And so when
you look at the investigations of the investigation that the

(01:04:02):
House did into Biden his pogetive decline, we were like
to we know that that's obvious, but now you've got
Biden folks on the record saying those things will use
that put that in commercials. Put that out there, right,
what's this arctic frost where the government is literally going
after American citizens. That's a huge deal, right. And so

(01:04:23):
when you have to break those down because people are like,
oh what does that stuff mean? Break it down. Make
it simple. The government is coming after you. We are
standing in your way. Take Trump's message and put it
towards something that can be successful. And Congress has to
lead that, right, and so it could be. And this
is what you know. Congress, they need they need to
get together, but they need to need to help each other. Fundraise.
They need to Again, when I say Trump energy, don't sleep,

(01:04:46):
don't eat, work every second of the day. That's literally
how Trump accomplishes anything, because the guy just he's known
for not sleeping. He's a constant energizer. Bunny. I think
if the House can take that type of energy and
go fundraise and go get the message out there, get
on TV, get on radio, just today, starting today into
next November, I think we could be surprised and actually

(01:05:07):
pull something off. But if we keep doing the same
as we've been, staying and neutral, I just don't see
how we're going to get much momentum going into next November.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
You know, sometimes I look at Biden's term in office
and I almost think it's like a campaign contribution to
President Trump or any Republican that was going to run
against him in the next election because it was such
abysmal failure. Is that going to be the case with
Mom Donnie and these Democrats that won. Now they got
to govern. It's easy to promise everyone everything and make

(01:05:39):
it again about Trump or something. But what's going to
happen in the next four years. I don't know that
it's going to make the Democrat Party stronger that these
individuals got elected. Is there a lesson that's going to
be learned or are they just or is this a
movement that we're seeing and it's going to get more
popular as they are in office.

Speaker 18 (01:05:57):
I do think it's a movement. You know, there's an
old Stay by the Bell episode where his back runs
against Jesse, and Jesse's obviously the more qualified candidate, but
Zach promises no homework and we're gonna, you know, free food,
that sort of thing, And so that's kind of what
you're seeing in New York. Mom Donnie ran the easiest
campaign in the world. I mean, the guy literally talking
about now he changed it yesterday. I don't know if
y'all saw that. I'm miss MISNBC, but he you know,

(01:06:19):
you're running on free even even I asked about running
on free groceries and he says, well, I don't mean
completely pre groceries.

Speaker 14 (01:06:25):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:06:26):
I do think to your point. I think it's a movement.
And I think you've got the AOC's, you've got the Berniees,
and now you've got Mam Donnie. I think the Democrats
and typically have an issue with socialism because that's the
way the far left leans, and they do think and
Mam Donny tweeted this today, essentially saying that there's no
there's no problem that the government can't solve. There's no

(01:06:48):
problem too big and no problem too small. So what
that means is he wants government in every part of
your life. If Republicans can take that message and really
shove it down the throats of the American people and
and helps them remember and realize that this is a
free country, not a country that's depended on the government,
I think we can turn that message against them. The
problem for even Democrats who are even moderate are going

(01:07:10):
to be having to deal with the mom Donnies of
the world in the future. Because if you remember, even Bernie,
Bernie is extraordinarily popular across the country. He's one of
the most popular politicians in the country. But the Democrats
that have blocked him over and over again, because when
you get in a general it's just going to get destroyed,
because there's no way that people are not going to
vote for these policies. Right AOC who's looking at running

(01:07:33):
for Senate, she may win, she may end up beating
if she challenges Schumer, she may win. But the problem,
to your point is still the same. This is a
movement of socialistic movement and until until it's really known
what these people are going to do, and believe, I
think there's gonna be a lot more pain coming for
cities like New York than anybody else who support socialists.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
Yeah, a good point, Chase, Chase Cheney is joining us
on our Newsmaker line. Greg, does socialism have a nationalistic appeal?
I don't think it does. I hate that very isolated
areas it will, like New York, like Seattle, like Portland,
like Los Angeles, even maybe even Chicago. It didn't in Minneapolis,
which surprised both.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
Of us shocked me. But you know that's that's a
good sign someone in Minneapolis is thinking it through a
little better. But yeah, no, I I those areas are pockets.
That's not that's not the heartland of this country. It's
not the everyday working people. In fact, if you look
down at the breakdown, Mom, what's mom? Donnie Mom, Donnie
Wing Mom, Donny he Zoolander, he it's the elitist that

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voted for him. It's not the women. Yeah, it's not
the people without a degree or a high school degree,
or the working class. They didn't vote for him. It
was the elitist that came out in droves.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Here's how Brett Hume talked about it on the show
last night after the vote.

Speaker 16 (01:08:45):
Trump can turn out voters, but they turn out for him,
and everything I think we've seen tonight suggest that when
he's not on the ballot, even if he's trying to
influence the ballots, if he's not on there himself, his
voters are much less interested than they might otherwise be.
So that if people with the Republican Party moves forward
here under his leadership, they have to start thinking about

(01:09:05):
what it's going to be like when he's gone.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
You know, what is it about him?

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:09:09):
Is that magnetism? I'm not I'm not sure, but he
sure does turn people out, like you guys.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
And look, I mean, look at his cabinet. He has
people that were Democrats, RFK Junior, he's got Tulci Gabbert,
He's he's really reached across, he's been. I think he's
he just gets every day vote, everyday Americans who aren't
necessarily card carrying, registered Republicans. They like his authenticity. Even
his rough edges speak to being authentic, and that's what

(01:09:37):
that's for people that don't like politics and don't trust politicians.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
That's true. All right, We've got more on the vote
last night, more coming up this hour right here on
the rod In Greg Show and Talk Radio one oh
five nine Knas.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Yeah, well yeah, how does that happen? Well, the Democrats
never had much of a rudder in the water, though
they did. Just attack Republicans. That's always been their gig.
So you know, now the younglings are after him. They
want to just I think socialism is putting it lightly.
I think they're communists. I think, well, I think they are.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Yeah, it depends on how you want to define socialism
or communism basically one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Donnie the part you know, his name was on a
couple different parties ballots. It was Democrat, but also that
Working Family Party which is affiliated is a communist party,
not even a socialist party. And that's the one he
said he voted for himself on from that party. That
would be a communist party, not a socialist party, So
you know, socialist, communist. You know Potato Patato, who's keeping score?

Speaker 8 (01:10:31):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:10:31):
Couple a couple of interesting stories today. There's one out there.
This a headline Greg. It reads, the kids have delivered
men down eight, but the adults will be required to
handle the results of Zoutka. It's just a kid, never
run anything. How's he going to run this city?

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
But I want to see was it really the youth
because I thought it was going to be the youth vote,
but I don't know that. The cross tabs I've looked
at showed that it was a youth'm.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
Among young women eighteen to nine? Yeah, wow, women seventy
eight girls who was suggestively shouldn't allow women to vote anything.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Now it's all been downhill since then. I'm sorry. You know,
gender gap on these candidates.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
JD. Vance texted out today Ona and his social media page,
I think it's idiotic to overreact to a couple of
elections in blue states. But here are a few thoughts,
and he went on to say Scott Presler, was he
the guy in Pennsylvania?

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Yeah? Who got Scott Presler the voter registration for Republicans?

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
And TPUSA and a bunch of others have been working
hard to register votes. Right A number three, we need
to focus on the home front. The president has done
a lot that has already paid off in lower interest
rates and lower inflation. But we inherited a disaster from
Joe Biden and it does take time to take care
of And he adds the infighting is stupid. I care

(01:11:47):
about my fellow citizens, particularly young Americans, being able to
afford a decent life. I care about inflation or immigration
and our sovereignty. And I care about establishing peace overseas
so our resources can be focused at home. If you
care about those things, let's work together. That sounds like JD.
Van's plenty to run for president in a couple of

(01:12:08):
years and trying to rally the forces after last night.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
You know what I think if they can keep it cool.
I think a great primary with with with jd Vance,
our vice president, with Mark Rubio, with with the Ronda Santis,
throw in some others, let's have I love competition. I
think it brings out the best in everyone. Don't make
it so vicious. Nobody can you got because you've got
to come together around the nominee. If you have a good,
deep pool of good candidates and just let's see what happens.

(01:12:35):
I'm excited. I think I think Republicans have such a
better future in terms of it's a bigger tent of
everyday common sense, normal people. And I think some of
these leaders that that Trump is empowered on in his cabinet.
And then you've got a leader like Desander's. I'll always
praise how how well he has led Florida, that was
a swing state. He won by like less than a

(01:12:57):
percent and sixteen and he's gone on to do or
eight in eighteen and he's made that a solid read.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
Sure there was some sanity last night. We talked ab
earlier about Minneapolis. The incumbent mayor there defeated the socialist
candidate easily. Yeah, apparently. Meanwhile, well in Virginia, they were
electing j two bullets Jones, the.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Ag homicidal maniac.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
I see. But in Texas, voters there soundly rejected their
own Democratic candidate who'd openly opposed political or endorsed political violence.
Texas State Representative Jolanda Jones finished third in an all
party primary special election to succeed the late Representative Sylvester Turner.
So at least in Texas there's a little bit of Senate.

(01:13:45):
And in Louden County, Virginia, they had a school board race.
The board member who was advocating for you know, little
boys going into big girls bathrooms. You know, she was
kicked out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Good. Yeah, And Louden County is at Virginia in Virginia,
and yeah, yeah, So it wasn't all crazy. That makes
some sense, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
More coming up final half hour the Rodding Greg Show.
You're on Utah's Talk radio one oh five, Diying Kanas.
Do you know what happened a year ago tonight? What
Donald Trump was elected to a second term.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
So we were sitting here a year ago.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
Well, not in this were we in the studio?

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
We were here for the election studio, Yes, we mean
in this studio.

Speaker 3 (01:14:25):
Well, I'm thinking we moved studios. I can't remember when
we did.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Years ago. My friend was it. Yeah, it's been a while. Wow,
it's been a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
How time flight when you're having.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Fun, when you're having fun.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Yeah, are we having fun?

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
We're having a blast. Okay, yeah, we were here here
for that. It was it was a year ago. The
dog died that night.

Speaker 3 (01:14:44):
The dog died that night.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Remember that's right, my dog died. My poor dog, Sumo
kicked the bucket while I was gone too. Didn't make
Queen Bee happy at all. I shouldn't laugh, I know,
don't laugh. My dog is cute, poor fella. He was older,
but didn't see it coming, really, didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
You just go out in the backyard.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
Yeah, it's like he's so independent. He like picked us
by the way. He's like he was someone else's dog
in neighborhood and he just liked us. So he just
kept coming over. And the owners, you stole him, you
steal them. The owners just said, we're tired to pick
him up every day you're here. So he picked us
and then he, uh.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
He just died a year ago tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Yeah, got off the couch, went in the backyard and well, yeah,
that's sad. I hope, I hope Queen bees not listening
because she's not a good topic, that topic for her.
But yeah, but I remember because it was election of
all the time I was here, Yeah, and I would
normally have been home by that time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
It was a big night a lot of people. I mean,
he won and won handily.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
Every single swing states, he won, every one of them. Yes,
I keep hearing the most you know, most narrow margin
in history electoral college wise.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
Yeah, it sure wasn't. Well, let's talk more about what
happened in New York last night and really what is
going on with the Democratic Party. There's been kind of
a non hostile takeover of the Democratic Party, the old
Democratic Party, and AOC talked about that last night on CNN.
She said, the old sters or whatever you want to
call the old heads in the Democratic Party had better

(01:16:10):
be aware that young people are coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
They are coming up and they're crazy, so you beg
it out of their way. They're they're not tolerating you.
They don't suffer old people lightly.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Yeah. Well, joining us now on our newsmaker line is
the founder of wrong Speak Publishing, Adam Coleman. Rights from
the New York Post as well, always ready to have
Adam on the show. Adam, you're right about this non
hostile takeover. How on earth did this ever happen at him?

Speaker 14 (01:16:35):
Well, it happened because they presume that their only enemy
is coming from the exteriors, coming from the right with
Donald Trump, and so anyone who is what they perceive
that's on the left is automatically their friends. Where they
fail to realize is that whether you want to call
them progressive socialists, whatever term you want to use, these

(01:16:56):
people hate Democrats more than they hate Republicans. Their only
purpose is to gain more power, more leverage, and they're
willing to be a part of the team so one
day they can take control of the team. And so
when we saw Kathy Holkl stand up on stage to
support mom Donnie, even though she had already endorsed two

(01:17:18):
weeks ago, to me, that was just humiliation ritual that
was happening because she went up on stage and despite
her being there and endorsing him, she was still booed
by the crowd. So I think it was a power move.
You know, maybe I'm looking too much into it, but
that's what it felt like to me, you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
Know, Adam I said for a couple of days leading
up to the vote yesterday that this vote, with Mamdani
leading and now of course being elected there in New York,
wasn't as much of an attack on maybe the Republican Party,
but a repudiation of the Democratic Party because they've done
nothing in response to some of the issues these people
have raised. Is that fair to say, It's.

Speaker 14 (01:18:00):
Definitely fair to say. You know, people like Chuck Schumer
have admitted this many years ago publicly that their aim
was to cater towards the middle upper middle class and
above suburbanites. They want to go towards the college educated.
They abandoned the working class, the unions they take for granted,

(01:18:21):
you know, So that's not of their interests. And you
can see that, and the things that they advocate for.
Their primary interests isn't economical, even though just about every
election is about economics. Their primary interests is about all
these niche interests that most people don't care about, don't

(01:18:44):
think about, and have no interest in as they're going
day to day trying to take care of their family
and they're struggling. So yeah, and the reason why the
Progressives are doing so well with the democrats is because
they have a built in ideology. They are already very
enthusiastic about what they're doing, and they're ready to take control.

Speaker 3 (01:19:10):
Did you what did you think? I don't know if
you saw this last night, but what did you think
about Donny's victory speech. He's getting some criticism being directed
toward him. Some people are saying the mask really came
off of him last night. What'd you make of that speech?
If your son it, I saw some of it.

Speaker 14 (01:19:26):
I didn't see it at all. I mean, when people
tell you who they are, you should believe them.

Speaker 8 (01:19:32):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:19:33):
He's been saying that he's a socialist. There's plenty of
evidence that this man's a socialist, that he admires controversial,
incredibly controversial socialists around the world, even going as far
as quoting some whether you want to call them socialists
a communists. In my opinion, it's much of the same.

(01:19:55):
It's just technical terms. But at the end of the day,
these types of people authoritarians. Here's what I'm really worried about.
Everyone's worried about, like he's going to seize the means
of production. What I'm actually worried about is that he
normalizes socialism, and he is a lukewarm socialist, so that
when the next person comes along, they're saying, see, mom,

(01:20:17):
Donni wasn't that bad, and maybe the next person is
not that bad, and then that we cave in and
we fall for the trick, and then by then it's
too late.

Speaker 3 (01:20:27):
Adam, what do you make of the numbers that I'm
hearing today that people who've lived in New York for
ten years or less, even five years or less less
came out in huge numbers for Mondani? Does that? And
the older residents of New York City voted for other candidates,
being Cuomo and maybe a little bit of what's his name,

(01:20:48):
but Sleewa. I mean, what do you make of that number?
I mean it appears New New York City residents are
the ones who really support Mendonni.

Speaker 14 (01:20:57):
Yeah, there's a lot of motivation from people who just
recently came there. And I do think there is an exhaustion.
Maybe that's the word we want to use. There's an
exhaustion when it comes to New York politics for people
who've been there a long time, because it feels like
nothing will change and the people who have come there
don't have that historical baggage of the city. So they're

(01:21:21):
far more optimistic, they're far more engaged. You know, they
moved there, right, they weren't born there, so they don't
necessarily take New York for granted, and so they want
to be heavily involved in dictating the direction of the city.
Whether we agree with the direction, it's a different story.
But I do see a different temperament for people who

(01:21:43):
were born and raised in New York City versus someone
who just came there because they love sex and the city.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
Good point. Final question for you, Adam, always great to
have you on this show. Do you foresee a bat
and battle taking place within the Democratic Party in the
coming months and years over you know, the socialist Democrats
versus the more traditional Democrats. Do you see a fight
brilling here?

Speaker 14 (01:22:08):
Oh? I mean the fight?

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
Or is it over already?

Speaker 14 (01:22:15):
I think it's over already. I think it's been over
for quite some time. The reality is that within the party,
the people you know, blue dog Democrats, people long time
establishment types of Democrats. They didn't resist. That was the
main point within my article is that they didn't resist

(01:22:35):
this radical faction. They just went with it. And then
you start hearing them change the language. When you see
Joe Biden say gender affirming care, you know that you
know things have changed, that he is not the one
that is in control, even though he was a president
at the time. It's that the progressives are dictating the

(01:22:56):
language and they're dictating the direction of the party, and
it's been happening more and more. I think they thought
that AOC was a blip in the radar, when actually
she was the starting point for many of much of this.
You know, she overtook a long standing congressman and she's,
you know, supposedly just the bartender, and now look at her.

(01:23:19):
She's up there and she's one of the faces of
the Democratic Party. So they took them for granted, or
I'm sorry, they underestimated them, and that fight didn't really happen.
Right the DSA ILK they've taken over and you're going
to see more and more of them as time goes on.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
Adam Coleman joining us on our Newsmaker line talking about
the radical move to the left within the Democratic Party
and Greg it's going to be interesting to see in
the coming weeks and months and years the fight within
the party. Is it going to be the old Guard
or the New Guard, which is much more leftist than
the Old Guard.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
I think it's I think what's gonna happen is you're
gonna have the New Guard takeover. I think it's gonna
be it. I think it's it's gonna be a disaster
because history has never shown a version of what they
want that's ever worked out. When the disaster hits, you're
gonna have the party's gonna go through kind of what
it did when Bill Clinton was kind of the new Democrat.
You're gonna have some pragmatic blue dog Democrats that emerge.

(01:24:20):
That day is coming for the for the Democrats, but
it's not the current crowd, old or young, and it's
gonna come after they've lost in a number of election cycles.

Speaker 3 (01:24:29):
Well, I think you saw a little bit of a
last night yet Spamberger and uh Cheryl Charrell in New
Jersey moderate Democrats would be described right. And then you
have Mom Donne winning in New York City, so you
can see the contrast in the party and somehow those
two are gonna have to get together.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Well, and I'm gonna tell you that Republicans are only
going to enjoy a lutory over them if they if
they decide to be disruptors and not be a UNI
party and then just keep spending this country into oblivion
and debt and really fight for the every everyday people.
If he if they can do what Trump's been doing
or trying to do, the Republicans have I think, very
good days in front of them. They have to do
the hard work, and the hard work is to just

(01:25:08):
push back this establishment, this swamp, this uniparty nonsense that
we have suffered through for so long.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
And this point's been made a couple of times some
of the guests we've talked to today, Greg, They've got
to do some things legislatively. Yes, in a way, I
think sometimes they've depended too much on Trump with executive orders.
They've got to do something legislatively. And if you look
at it, Greg, they've got about a month month and
a half left of controlling things. Because you know, when
you get to election years, which will be in next year,

(01:25:37):
nothing gets done.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
No, they don't, and they get scared. And I hate
people that make decisions out of fear, But you lose
your legislative, separate and equal powers when you don't exercise them.
The muscles go into atrophy. You don't know how to
do it. You don't know what, you don't know. They
have walked away from so many of their prerogatives, their
separate equal powers, and they've left it to Obama's and

(01:25:59):
you know, Biden and now Trump with these executive orders.
It wasn't meant to be that way, but they got it.
I mean, they can't keep the government open now.

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
No, All right, coming up, final thoughts and we'll tell
you what happened Tom Brady's dog. That's coming up next
on The Roden greg Show.

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