The Rod and Greg Show (June 11): Media Learned Nothing from Trump's Election

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I come into this station sometimes just loaded for bear.
I don't know, it's been a bunch of things, and
I'm just on a rant and it's and I you know,
I can I can hold a multiple thoughts at the
same time. I can be ranting on many levels at once.
And poor Rod has to sitting here and listen to them.
They're all good, by the way, I think all of
them are very will noteworthy, very informative. But poor Rod

(00:21):
has to hear if at least Queen Bee doesn't have
to be the lone recipient of all this home to
Oh yeah, my kids too. They've you know, all my
kids just moved out when they became adults. Who knew why.
I don't know why. They all just they all kind
of a cut the apron strings and headed out.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
I have no idea why.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I've got a good explanation. Man, if we got a
show lined up for you today, gruesome. Gavin Newsom decided
to address the people of the People's Republic of California
last night with some thoughts on what the president done,
and if you listen to the speech, we've got a
small portion of it, it sounds like he's running for president.
He doesn't care about what's going on in California. He
wants to be president.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Yeah, he knows that what's the madness, that the violence
his absolute inaction has caused, made it so much worse,
and it's really hurting his national prospects. I'm sure he thinks.
And so he has to rewrite history, reframe the situation,
maybe convinced not only Californians, but he hopes it goes
viral America, that his version of facts would be the correct,

(01:23):
you know, the correct version, and maybe he can get
out of the trouble he's in. But we got the receipts,
we got the video, we eyes, we have ears.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Shoe, and the great Kurt Schlickter, who is always has
a word or two to say about what's going on
in California, will join us. We'll hear from them also.
A little bit later on this hour, we'll talk to
a columnist who says he's changed his mind about same
sex marriage. He'll explain that Governor Herbert has made some
comments about calling in the National Guard. We'll get into

(01:52):
that as well, plus a lot of other things to
get to. I know you're ready to go on that
one so.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Un disappointed mightily.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, we've got a lot to get to now. We
also have Key Urban tickets to give away. What else
we have, We've got rock Steady tickets to give away.
We'll be doing that concert, by the way, on the
on the Keith Urban tickets, you'll want to listen to
the a well known Keith Urban hit. It'll be some
of our bumper music today and when you hear it,
if you're the correct color. But we have another way

(02:18):
for you to win, Greg. You could talk back using
our talk bag line and leave a dad joke. Ah,
a dad joke.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
You know if you leave a dad joke, you could
you could win some tickets. Here's an example of it.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I got a joke for you. What does a
nosy pepper do gets jalapeno business?

Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's a bad one. That's that's a bad thing.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
That's such a dad joke. I don't even understand that. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
So that's how we'll give away. So that's another way
to win the tickets as well. So we've got a
lot to get to today.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
We get the other contest. We'll have a couple we
have a couple of concerts. The Keith Urban Concert. That's
that's a great one. You want to be listening closely
when you hear the song or leaving your dad joke.
But the rock Steady, that's a bunch of cover bands,
and they're covering a bunch of great artists, Heart Eagles, Queen, Journey, Aerosmith,
Rockstock Stock.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
What I say Rock I said rock Steady too, rock Stock.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Rockstock twenty twenty five. Okay, so today we've we've Actually
the key is hearing one of those particular cover bands,
songs or groups. This one is Queen. If you hear
a Queen, a song from Queen, okay, that's when you
want to call and be the fifteenth color, all right,
if you hear a Queen on the bumper music.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Now, you do not know, mister Hughes, how much it
pains me to say this today. But I'm a man
of my words and I'm going to have to say it.
I tried to figure out a way to get around
this today, but I can't, so I'm going to have
to be I'll be right up front with you and

(03:56):
the audience and say this. You were right, you know
now that that.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Is I saw.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I didn't see this coming well, this wasn't in the
pre show discussion.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
That is so painfully painful for me to say, but
you're right, and what we're talking about. Apparently Elon has
realized he made a mistake by getting pretty tough on
Donald Trump in his text messages. Right, So apparently JD.
Vance and Susie Wiles, who's the President's chief of staff
and vice president of course, had conversations with Elon over

(04:28):
the weekend and told them to kind of, you know,
lower the temperature back down a little bit. And that's
exactly what they've decided to or he has decided to do.
And I guess he issued kind of an apology text
today to the President. So you were right. You said
it would blow over. I said, no, it's never going
He's never going to get over.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
I did think they would still the two would talk
tough through until August, because I still think that Elon
has every right to see more cuts in in the
big beautiful bill, and so I thought he'd stay strong
through that and then you would see that kumbaya in August.
But it looks like maybe it had got away from him.
And they want to make it. They want to they
know they make better music together than a part, and

(05:06):
so the band's getting back together.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, a lot of Republicans out there in the Senate
and in Congress and other high rolling Republicans were saying,
come on, guys, you know, kiss and makeup. We need
both of you to get America straight again. And I
think Elon heard that so either ic. I see, I
didn't think what he had said about the President. I
didn't think the President would ever forgive him. But it
sounds like the President is open to the apology as well. Tokay,

(05:30):
all right, I have to say you're right on this one.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Thank you, thank you. But you know, for all of
the superpowers that Trump has that I believe he possesses,
one of them is that he can be as critical
or there can be a lot of back and forth
with people, but he can forgive, he can move on.
I mean, Marco Rubio is his Secretary of State.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
JD.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Vance is Vice president of his administration. Those are two.
There was some tough words shared between those two individuals
and President Trump at some point, and now they're his
strongest allies and their friends, I assume, and they're working
for the betterment of the country, and I think he
can do that.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
I kind of get a sense he does hold grudges
about people that he works with who may say something
about him that he doesn't like. But maybe he does
hold grudges. But you just shared a couple examples, Ted Cruz,
Marco Rubio, now with Elon Musk, they go with Elon too.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
I mean some of the callers and some of them,
and you point out this thing got hit a little
bit below the belt. I do think though, that another
aspect of this is what happened in Butler, Pennsylvania in
July of last year. I think that you have a
more humble if you know, people might not think that
that Trump, the version of Trump we're seeing today is humble,
but I do think he is looking at the bigger picture,
loves this country and is not going to let moments

(06:39):
like that slow him down. And he knows that they
are stronger, this country stronger when these two unique individuals
are working together.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
So you work right now, Let's get onto the old
gruesome Newsom Gavin took to the airwaves last night to
address the people of California about what's going on in
the state and his hate of Donald Trump. In the
in fact that Donald Trump said, you aren't keeping the peace, man,
so I'm going to I'm bringing in the National Guard
in the Marines. Well A Newsome went on television last

(07:08):
night addressed the people of California. And you tell me
if this sounds like he's concerned about California or if
he's running for the White House.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
This is a president who in just over one hundred
and forty days has fired government watchdogs that could hold
him accountable, accountable for corruption and fraud. He's declared a war,
a war on culture, on history, on science, on knowledge itself.
Databases quite literally are vanishing. He's delegitimizing news organizations, and

(07:37):
he's assaulting the First Amendment and the threat of defunding
them at threat. He's dictating what universities themselves can teach.
He's targeting law firms and the judicial brands that are
the foundations of an orderly in civil society. He's calling
for a sitting governor to be arrested for no other
reason than to in his own words.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Boy, to me, that sounds like that's the speech that
you'd give to the Democratic National Convention when you accept
the nomination to be president of the United States.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
There's so much. There's a rewrite. I mean, first off,
he doesn't even get into what he's what he's allowed
to happen in the state of California Los Angeles. He
doesn't say that he the reason Trump even was asked
a question about whether Gavin Newsom should be a restaurants
because Gavin Newsom, as the sitting governor, said arrest me.

(08:29):
He's He called out Tomhoman and said, I you arrested?

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Dare you? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (08:33):
If a sitting governor makes that kind of audacious comment,
and the governor and the presidents asked about it, but
that's not how he framed it. Just there, it was
as if Trump imagined it and then said it out
loud that he wishes that Governor Newsom be arrested. So
it's again a lot of pageantry on his part and
not truthful. But we're going to explore that. I'll think
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Kurch Schlickter will be joining us after the break. He'll
talk about this as well. It is the Wingman Wednesday
edition of The Roden Gregg Show right here on Utah's
talk Radio one oh five nine knrs grew some. Newsom
addressed the people of California last night to talk about
how upset he is with Donald Trump sending in the
National Guard or the Marine. So we thought we'd turned
to our good friend Kurt Schlickter, columnist at Town Hall,

(09:17):
a man about town as he is, and get his
thoughts on what happened from Gavin Newsom last night. Kurt,
how are you? I understand, Kurt, they're changing the name
from California to Mexicifornia.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Is that right, Kurt? That's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Well, well, look, we were owned by Mexico for like fifteen.

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Minutes, so I got that.

Speaker 7 (09:38):
Uh yeah, yeah, you know, I guess some Spaniards going
to come back and say, hey, what about us? But
I mean, the whole thing is stupid. You got a
bunch of idiots out here waving the flag of the
country of countries that they are like screaming and yelling
and clawing the floor to avoid being sent back to
It's pretty amazing. But you gotta understand the trouble is

(10:03):
all downtown, and downtown is you know, there's a couple
of hipsters, a bunch of bums, and US lawyers had
to go down there to the courthouses.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
There's nothing else there. It's a theater. Okay, normal cal
like they I live in the South.

Speaker 7 (10:18):
I lived by the beach, the rich people, everybody around here.
As a hate has to go home here signed Uh.
But but man, the second, you know, the second some
of the you know, some of these activists come into
our neighborhood, they're gonna call the freaking swat case. They're
not having that here. They're gonna vote for these communists,
but they're not playing that game here.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's for the four people. So it's really what what
this military guy's calling information operation.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
They are trying to make a big deal, uh, and
get the regime media's cooperation of showing l a and chaos.
And the idea was to show well, Trump is powerless,
He's got it back down, and Trump's like, nah, I'll
see and Raisia the seventy nineth in Trubergate Combat Team
which I was deputy commander.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Zed That's what I want to get into because I
think you have. I mean, it's one thing to be
the senior columnist at town Hall. You're you contribute there.
You're a best selling novelist and fiction as well as nonfiction.
You do a lot of things. You're an attorney, but
you you're a soldier or you were a soldier, and
so I think you have some personal experience protecting California

(11:25):
being deployed. Maybe you could share with our listeners for
those that would say that what Trump did was wrong
from your perspective, from that leadership position of being in
the National Guard and being a leader there, share with
our listeners if this was appropriate for the National Guard
to be deployed by the president.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Well, of course it was.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
They were attacking federal installations, so Trump.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Brought them in.

Speaker 7 (11:47):
They're now doing point security at federal installations. They're not
out there breaking heads. Trump's not going to take responsibility
for policing the streets of this misbegotten city. That's Karen
Bass and we have a new trouble. He's just going
to make sure that they can't uh, you know, attack
federal officers to story federal buildings, and he's going to

(12:07):
free up federal officers, uh to go out and do
federal officer things like arrest illegal aliens, which they're still doing.

Speaker 4 (12:16):
Uh, they haven't stopped.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
So yeah, it's perfect in an information operation, what you're
trying to do is shape public opinion to get your effect. Now,
when I went out for the LA riots, we went
out to kick tail. Okay, we had you know, we
we we suppressed the riot, Okay, and not gently. That's

(12:40):
the connect operation. This is information operation. They're trying to
achieve an information dominance that will make normal people go, oh,
I have the choice, but give into these communists or
they'll they'll burn our city down.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
I'd better submit. Well.

Speaker 7 (12:57):
Donald Trump, the greatest communicator of all our presidents, and
I was around when Ronald Reagan was understands this. And
he knows that if you provide normal people with the
alternative of resistance where somebody strong says, no, you communist
scum suckers, you're not going to make us do anything,

(13:17):
people will go to the legitimate government resisting. So he
provides an alternative completely blows their information operation out of
the water. You've got Karen Bass, who's borderline clinical moral.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Okay, she's got you know, she's got an IQ of eighty.
It's a good day. She doesn't know what the hell
to do.

Speaker 7 (13:39):
Newsom's useless, and I write about I'm going to write
about him in town hall tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (13:44):
And it's just going to be brutal to check out my.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Town hall on Gavin Newsom and how he's a torpedoed
is presidential my ambitions. But look, if you look at
the footage, it's all lap D LA Sheriff's CHP, californ
Iway Patrol. Well, it's not Trump's troops who are fighting
these guys and losing. It's it's Gavin Newsom's he's the
guy getting humiliated.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
So this is a total victory for the Republicans.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
But wait, there's more detail.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Because all these these networks of communists funded by rich donors,
probably connected to the Red Chinese.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
You know how these things.

Speaker 7 (14:26):
All pop up wherever there's trouble. Suddenly you get a
rental riot anywhere, and all the riots look the same, right,
because they're all all organized, coordinated, and logistically and administratively supported.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
By the same bunch of people.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Well, those people have now exposed themselves here in California.
You've got online people researching them, and you've got a
Department of Justice that has stopped being concerned about moms
going to school board and complaining that, you know, some
dude in address is scheving on their fifth graders. Now
they're actually looking for criminals. They're going to map out

(15:05):
these networks. And if you remember, we spent about twenty
five years in the War on Terror learning to map
enemy networks.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's how we did intelligence. Okay, so we're going to
map these networks and you're gonna start seeing indictments for
all the little.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
Activities that involve crossing state lines, making federal beasts.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
To commit crimes.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
So this is not only going to defeat them in
the short term tactical battle, it's going to undermine their
strategic asset of this network. Keep in mind, the Democrat
Party and these rioters are not totally connected. They leave
enough deniability, but there is not a shred of difference

(15:49):
between the ultimate objection of the Democrat Party and the
ultimate objective of these rioters. They both want the same things,
which is why Yamvin Newsom and Karen bas kind of
let them happen.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, because they're on the same sum.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's kind of scary. Kurt is always great chatting with you.
We'll look forward to your article in town Hall tomorrow.
Thanks Kurt always, Thanks thanks for having me all right,
Kurt Slicker joining us on our any our newsmaker line.
More coming up on the Rod and Greg Show on
This Wingman Wednesday and Utah's talk Radio one O five
nine kN R s all right Southern Baptists Greg over

(16:25):
the weekend have endorsed a ban on gay marriage, including
a call for a reversal of the Supreme Court's ten
year old president legalizing gay marriage nationwide. I didn't realize
it was ten years ago. Time has gone fow, it
has gone fast.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
this is David Harzani. He is an author, a senior
writer at The Washington Examiner who has changed his mind
on gay marriage. Dave, thanks for joining us tonight. David,
Why did you change your mind? What's behind it?

Speaker 4 (16:53):
David?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Well, what instated me to write the comments that in
recent polls have shown that Republicans have, uh, you know,
the numbers of Republicans who who support the idea of
gay marriage has receded. I suspect that those people are
more secular kind of Republicans because obviously social conservatives have
typically or at least or you know, social conservatives and

(17:15):
Orthodox Christians have not been pro gay marriage. So I'm
a secular person of the right, and I have changed
my mind, not per se about you know, some kind
of union that that same sex couples can have, but
rather how it was done through unilaterally through the Supreme Court.
But you know, nothing in the Constitution, you know, deals

(17:38):
with marriage, and I think that this should have been
done through the electoral democratic process. League you know, laws
statewide federalists in a federalist way, because it's intruded in
many ways on religious liberty and other things that I
also care about that are protected by the Constitution.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
You know, I that is my my if I go
back in time, so as I was a law I recover.
I'm a recovering public servant. But my position as a lawmaker,
a state lawmaker at the time when when when going
over the issue of gay marriage, really had nothing to
do with two individuals that wanted to be married. It
really was the thought of these faith based adoption agencies,
be it the Catholic Church or the in our in

(18:17):
our state, the Church of Jesus Christ, the Lardy Saints.
Gay marriage would effectively close those services and placing unplanned
pregnancies or children with families or parents. If you were
only to do that for a male and female marriage,
and so I thought, for the purposes of children and adoption,
we should really not see those faith based adoption agencies close.

(18:40):
The decision came out and like clockwork, it did close
them down. So my question today is how is how
is this undermining Because it was, it undermined, It undermined
these faith ability to be part of that solution. What's
what's happened since then? Is it even worse in terms
of our religious liberties? And how the Supreme Court ruled?

Speaker 6 (19:03):
I think so. I mean, I would say this when
you can, when you can craft legislation in Utah or
wherever to say yes, you know, we have created this
marriage for same sex couples. However, this part of the
law says you can't. You know, you don't undermine adoption
agency religious institutions. But for me, it was Jack Phillips,

(19:24):
I mean the cake maker in Colorado who I went
out and reported that story years ago. I could see
that a right that was invented at a whole cloth,
and that doesn't You could be pro game, manage whatever
you want, but it is not in the constitution. You
invented a right that now supersedes or was more important
than rights like that are clearly and explicitly laid out

(19:45):
in the Bill of Rights in the First Amendment. So
to me, that's problematic. And yet I think because of
some modern sensibility, certainly in some places people value the
rights that are concocted of the rights that aren't. I'll
give you an example. I mean, B eight did the
same thing. I don't care where you stand on abortion.
That was a terrible decision. It invented or right didn't exist.

(20:09):
Founders never even discussed or cared about that. We should
have been done by legislation. So that's how I think
it should have been done. And I think there's been
a tremendous attack on religious liberty in this country, tremendous
in many ways, Davi.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
But what about the the leftists and their feelings about
not only gay marriage, but now they've brought the whole
transgender issue under their umbrella. What do you think of that?
And what has happened there? Why did this happen?

Speaker 6 (20:37):
It's to me, I don't even understand why. You know,
the gay couple, they lived, they want to buy a house,
they want to have a life. Now all of a
sudden they're part of a group that includes all kinds
of causes that have nothing to do with their lives.
I mean, I don't know why, you know, gay Americans
let that happen. I would be angrier, you know, I'm

(20:58):
Jewish if there all of a sudden they just put
au plus sign at the end and started adding a
bunch of causes that have nothing to do with I mean,
the plus sign says we're going to keep adding stuff
on here in perpetuity, right, That's what it signifies. So yeah,
I mean, for instance, the issue of I hate even
using it, but the euphemistic issue of what is it

(21:19):
for kids? You know, the gender you know, forget what
they call it, but it is to me one of
the most immoral things going is child abuse. And to
have that be part of your movement, I think that
probably turns a lot of people off, who who say
to themselves, well, now this is all part of one cause,
and I don't want anything to do with this part

(21:39):
of that cause, you know what I mean. They just
think I think that a lot of people and I
view it this way, that the movement is overstepped. You know,
it's promises, you know, twenty years ago is promising. We
just want equality well, now it's a lot more than that.
I think that's that's part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Yeah, so a lot of time passed between Roe v.
Wade and the decision to the god's decision to return v.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Wade.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Can you ring the bell twice on overtfeld the decision?
Can you do it? Is it too soon? Is it
ever going to happen?

Speaker 6 (22:06):
In your mind, I never thought that Roe v. Wade
would be overturned, So I guess it can happen. I
wouldn't hold my breath on that. It is strangely so
integrated into culture now in a way I don't even
think abortion is that it would be very difficult to
do societally, I think, but you know, you never know,

(22:27):
You never know where things are going to go. There
is always reactionary forces, I guess I call them, not
like sort of the communistic way, but reactions to what's
going on, you know what I mean. So maybe there'll
be a movement to write that, but it seems unlikely
to be in the anything you know, in the next
decade or two.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
From The Washington Examiner David Arzani, David, thanks for joining us.
I don't think the ruling on same sex mayers will
be overturned anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
I don't either.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
It'll be a while if it ever is.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
But it's a topic. People are talking about it.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah they sure. All right, We've got more to come
on the Wingman Wednesday edition of The Rod and Greg
Show and Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. Yeah,
we have former Governor Gary Herbert taking sides with Gavin Newsom.
What's that all about.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, we're gonna have to get this into this the
next hour. But I gotta tell you this. I watched
this report is on KTV and Governor Herbert is asserting
that he sides with Governor Gavin Newsom that he would
be frustrated if the president came in and deployed National
Guard troops. Well, the problem with that take is that

(23:34):
he defends his position by saying, look, we as a
state back in twenty twenty during the May riots, the
Black Lives Matter matter, we worked with the Salt Lake
City mayor, and we worked with public safety in the
National Guarden. We were ready and things worked out well.
He said, Well, they didn't work out well. They delayed
action just for five hours, and the destruction of Salt

(23:54):
Lake City and the state Capitol. Unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah yeah, we'll get into that in the five o'clock
hour and get some of your thoughts on that as well.
Uh oh, Greg, what Commandant Mendenhall in a bit of trouble?
Oh are you ready for this? Remember she unveiled the
new city flags. Yes, all symbolizing different marginalized communities, focus
on inclusivity. Yes, well, apparently there are some groups on

(24:19):
the west side of the city, the Latino groups and
Polynesian communities, upset that they aren't represented in this all
inclusive flag.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
You see, when you get into identity politics, it's a
slippery slope, isn't it a dentity politics? You can never
get in front of it. There's always an identity you're
missing somewhere.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, these groups say community the community leaders
argue the lack of representation in the city's official symbols
sends a message, a message of exclusion, not inclusion, to
these communities. And they say yeah, they say, the West
Side has long been a cultural hub for immigrants and minorities,

(24:59):
yet they're contributed and presents not reflected in Salt Lake
City's new flag.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Well, you've heard it on this program, We said when
you're heralding only one, everyone else you've left behind. That's
why the American flag and the state flag they're great
to get behind because they represent every single one of us.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
I bet she changes her mind. I bet we're going
to have five city flags.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
She's just going to keep It's going to be like
that plus signal. We're just going to keep adding us.
You come and you have a take. Unless you're a
Republican or right of center, you'll get no flag. But
if you are left of center the identity politics, the
flags will fly. They're just gonna they'll make as many
as you need.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
All right Now, when we come back, we'll talk about
the conflicting comments from current and past current governor and
past governor about what's going on in Los Angeles, how
far if and we hope they're going to be demonstrations
this week in Salt Lake City. We hope they do
not get violent, but if they do, we have some
thoughts on what we think needs to be done, and

(25:55):
we'll get into that in your phone calls, also on talkback.
Go to thecanarrest dot com the website, download it on
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We'll get in that coming up next. Great to be
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(26:16):
Chicks stay with us. You can give us a call
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(26:38):
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and you can leave us a thirty second comment as well,
and we'll listen to those and get to those when
you know, when we have an opportunity, because we want
to hear your calls as well. All right, let's talk
about these are conflicting comments. Greg from our current governor

(26:59):
Spencer Cox, yes who during his what I guess is
monthly news conference yesterday, basically said, you know we're going
to have protest. Peaceful protest are just fine, but if
you want to protest here like they do in California,
there's going to be a different outcome. He says, we
will have absolutely no tolerance for it whatsoever. But now
we're seeing this interview that former Governor Gary Herbert did

(27:21):
with our news partner KUTV and kind of has a
different take on all of this.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
So yes, and I think it's important for us to
go over this because I think that there's some history
we should there's some things we should have learned. History
should teach us. If you don't learn from history, you're
doom to repeat it again. In May of twenty twenty
in Salt Lake City, there was a riot and it
was a very violent riot. They overturned a police car,
a Salt Lake City police car, they defecated on it,

(27:46):
they torched it. Private property was destroyed. There was a
lot at the capital, the state capitol. They came up
to the capitol and vandalized it and spray painted everything. Folks.
This was this or rally started at eleven am in
Salt Lake City in the morning.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
By five pm, okay, they called the governor had made
the decision that we have to deploy the National Guard
because in the five hours of that which probably started peacefully.
Who knows at.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
Eleven am to do.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
But whatever happened, the acceleration of violence happened so quickly,
but the hours of waiting, the violence got worse and
worse and worse. And when the National Guard were called,
and they also called local jurisdictions, law enforcement jurisdictions from
all over the Wasatch Front to come into Salt Lake
City to help protect you. I saw the aftermath of
this in twenty twenty. You had members of law enforcement

(28:39):
with stitches across their face where bricks had been thrown
at their face. You saw destroyed property, You saw the
capitol completely covered in graffiti. You saw all of this damage.
And this was a time where in that five to
six hours of delay where the violence was allowed to
continue and not was and was not interrupted, it accelerated
to a point where they couldn't control it and it
took a long time to control. Well, this is how

(29:03):
Governor Gary Herbert described what I just described to you
on in this interview yesterday. We ended up working with
Salt Lake City. He's comparing it to Gavin Newsom and
the National Guard and what would we do with that? Well,
we ended up working with Salt Lake City Police and
public Safety in our highway patrol, and we backed it
up with our National Guard to be on the ready

(29:24):
to help if it didn't get get if it got
out of hand, and it worked very well. He then
accuses Donald Trump of overreacting and that if he were
Gavin Governor Gavin Newsom, he would be upset if President
Trump deployed the National Guard. The difference here is it
did not go very well. It went the opposite of

(29:45):
very well. I pulled up the images after I read
this to say, do I just remember this wrong? Have
I gone crazy? The images I would show you would
look no different than what we're seeing from the images
coming out of Los Angeles. That was just a six
hour delay where Donald Trump. Where President Trump deployed troops,
this was a twenty four to thirty six hour delay
depending on who you're asking, before the decision was even made,

(30:08):
as this violence was escalating, so escalating for minimally twenty
four hours, not five or six like in Salt Lake City,
probably thirty six hours, and then when the decision was made,
it took another day to get so the first three
hundred National Guard troops to start there still on a
Friday started started on a Friday in La Sunday, the
first three hundred came Monday, more came with marines, And

(30:30):
so I just find it to be a rewrite of
history for Governor Herbert to suggest that this went marvelously well,
we all coordinated together and it all happened. We were
saying back in twenty twenty that there was a massive
failure to react and to protect private property, the public,
public safety, and that that delay cost a lot. It

(30:51):
costs people. That people were harmed and their properties were hurt.
So I think that experience informed who was then Lieutenant governor,
Governor Cock. I think that experience and that does what
I would describe as a disaster on that May twenty
twenty riot in Salt Lake City. Why, he is very
adamant that the moment the second this stuff breaks out,

(31:12):
you will see the state react. He says, we're over prepared.
That is that is a lesson learned from what happened.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Then, I think Spencer Cox, in what he said yesterday
during that monthly news conference, is learning to read the room.
And here's what I mean. He you know, he like
all of us here in the state of Utah around
the country are seeing what's going on in Los Angeles
right with you know, now, by the way, the National
Guard is only there to protect federal buildings and federal workers.

(31:41):
They aren't involved in the street stuff. They leave that
up to you know, they leave that up. But the
American people are seeing what's going on in Los Angeles
and are saying, you know, and they remember, Greg, what
happened in twenty twenty with the death of George Floyd,
and they're saying, no, we want we want law and
order on our streets. And I think Spencer Cox is

(32:03):
reading the room on this one properly, and he saying, Okay,
you do anything that will lead to violence, you are
going to be handled right away. You and I agree, Greg.
The first person that picks up a brick and throws
it at something, or a police officer, or a private
piece of private property or a government building, you pick

(32:24):
up a can of spray paint and decide to do
put graffiti on some of these buildings. You do anything
of the sort, and if you've got police there, you
grab them right away, because if you grab one, my
guess is others will not follow. But if you let
them get away with it, I think it just leads
to bigger problems. So I am in support of quick,

(32:44):
firm action. If anything goes on this weekend, and I
hope it doesn't, we aren't wishing for it. But if
anything goes on this weekend in Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, you're exactly right. And if you don't, if you
don't address it quickly, there's a momentum to this lawlessness,
to this violence, and it starts to just and then
there is it's very, very difficult to stop. And I'll
tell you that Mayor Mennen Hall, after all of this
had happened and you had members of law enforcement that
were harmed and people that were injured, her message the
Monday after this disaster happened was to if anyone has

(33:14):
been harmed by members of law enforcement or the National Guard,
please contact my office. I got to tell you I
had friends in law enforcement. I knew people, I knew
mayors that sent their police departments into Salt Lake City
to help them. Nobody was really looking to come to
the aid of Salt Lake City. Again, with the mayor's
comments painting somehow law enforcement to be the potential bad

(33:36):
guys if they were harmed by law enforcement during that riot.
And I think it's taken years. We're now in twenty
twenty five. I think the times have changed. I just
hope we don't forget, because when I read what Gary
Herbert's saying here that I would be upset if I
were Gavin Newso, Gavin News some twenty four to thirty
six hours hasn't said a word while that city's burning. Okay,
he waited five to six hours before he acted, and

(33:58):
there was true caught some terrible consequences from that delay,
of which he describes in his interview. Is it worked
very well? It worked very well. Go look at it.
Go go google the May twenty one Salt Lake City
Black Lives Matter riot and go look at the images
from that time and tell me that it worked very well.
It did not well.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
There's one difference this time. I think we have a
new police chief, Brian read As a new police chief.
If Aaron Mendenhall lets Brian Red do what I think
he would do, this city will be just fine. But
if she sticks her nose in this and politicizes it, politicized, oh,
we've just got to let those people let off a

(34:38):
little steam. That's not going to work. So with Brian
Read as the new police chief, I hope the message
is to the men and women on the front lines
in this if anything happens over the weekend that Brian
Red says, take care of it, get us done, enforce
the law, do it right now, do not wait.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
He was the number two man at the Department of
Art Utah State Department of Public Safety. He was part
of Operation Real Grant when we were dealing with the
drug cartels there. He was on the scene when we
were delayed because Salt Lake City didn't want to act
with all the violence going on, and he saw what
that meant. And if as chief of police in Salt
Lake City now he knows exactly I know the man
and I don't have to even talk to him. He

(35:18):
knows that you cannot let that go unattended or it
gets worse and you can't get in front of it.
And he knows that. And I hope we're gonna say,
i'm I don't like you. I hope this isn't the case.
And I think some of the people funding this, this
Indivisible Group and these groups that NGOs and Soros and
all those groups that are defunding this funding these protests
this weekend. I think they're more sophisticated than the socialists

(35:39):
that were doing the LA riots. I don't know that
it goes to violence. And if they want to protest,
go protest. In terms of if you're not very trying things,
it's the riots that have to be stopped and stopped immediately.
And I hope every city is prepared to stop the
violence as soon as it begins. They are intervening as
best they can so it doesn't get out of hand.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I want to get your phone calls on all list,
get some of your thoughts when it comes to what
may or may not happen. We hope it doesn't happen
over the weekend. How quickly police should respond to this.
Eighty eight eight five seven eight zero one zero on
your cell phone, dial pound two fifty and say hey Rod,
or you can go on our talk back line and
leave us a message about what you think should happen
sometime this hour as well. Kudos to Data Republican. We

(36:23):
had her on the show yesterday. She has exposed the people,
the person, the money behind what's going on in LA
and now she has prompted lawmakers in Washington who say,
because of her work, we're going to do some congressional
action on all of So kudos to URN. Will let
you hear that as well, so your calls, your comments.
It is the Wingman Wednesday edition of the Rod and

(36:43):
Greg Show right here on Utah's Talk Radio one oh
five nine KNRS.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
When I was nineteen eighty eight, after my senior year,
there was a remember.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
That, well it was Cocomo. Yeah, I was going to say,
is that Cocomon? That's a great song. Yes, that's a
Danson song.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
So that was a top four he hit when I
was a kid. I mean it was their last I
think it was their last hit and they kind of
came out of retirement to do what I think.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
But yeah, that's that's that was a fun song.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
They're all.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
It was on the soundtrack for Cocktail of Tom Cruise.
Tom is that where he played a bartender.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, that's a brilliant movie. And the and thee. The
woman was the from Karate Kid. I can't remember her
name right now, but she was the love interest in Cocktail.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Interest in Karate Kid Daniel Larusso's girlfriend.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, man, don't be going that's sacrilege. You don't know
the eighties movies, you gotta know.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Well, no, yeah, I saw The Karate Kid. Yeah, yeah,
I hear this new one is.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
Really that good.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I don't know about the movie, but I like the
series with Danny LaRusso and oh yeah, Johnny Lawrence.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah, what's the name of that movie?

Speaker 9 (37:58):
Kai?

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Cobra Kai.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Yeah, it's very good. I've watched. I watched almost I
kind of fizzled out towards the last season, but I
planned to watch it, but I just haven't watched the
very very end of it. But a bunch of seasons.
It's just so much fun to see those guys come back.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, it's fun. Yeah. I got into Cobra Kai early.
I have enough late, but when it first started coming out,
it was fun. It was fun.

Speaker 9 (38:19):
All Right.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
We're talking about this weekend, what may and we hope
doesn't happen this weekend in Salt Lake City. What are
they calling it? King New King, King, No King, No King.
Protest one is scheduled for Salt Lake City, and we're
hoping that. You know, it's a peaceful protest. You're allowed
to do that. That's what this country is all about.
But it's not about violent protest. The governor has stepped

(38:41):
up and said, you get carried away, We're going to
take care of you.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Yeah, and this is this is how we know for
fact that there was a delayed response in twenty twenty
is unacceptable because you have a guy that was at
lieutenant governor then who's absolutely emphasizing, especially after this last weekend,
we will not that kind of time pass again. That
won't happen twice and it can't. No, and so nobody
better described that twenty twenty experiences. Oh it worked well,

(39:08):
it worked fine. No, don't forget it did not.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Eight eight eight five seven o eight zero one zero
on your cell phone, dal pound two to fifty and
say hey, Rod. Also taking your comments on our talkback line.
Here's a comment from one of our listeners on talkback Rod, Greg,
I really think that any rioters need to be squashed
like bugs. And yeah, yeah, they need to be squashed

(39:32):
like bugs. Do not get out of hand, folks, really don't.
Don't even do this. Let's take another comment from one
of our talkback listeners.

Speaker 10 (39:39):
Hey, Greg, this is Chad from panguich Utah. It seems
like last Friday you were correct about the Trump and
Elon debate, and it reminded me of Rocky and Thunderlips
when they did their fight. And at the end of it,
you know, he said, hey, can I take a picture

(40:00):
with my kids? So I think you were right on
that call. As it turns out today, Wow, I love
you guys.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
You know, what a great caller, what a great observation
in that movie. What's so fun about that movie? Hul
Cogan plays Thunderlifts in there. It's a charity boxer versus wrestler,
and we said, I said, I felt like this was
studio wrestling, and Rocky's like, hey, you know, he thinks
it's all going to be an act. And then Thunderlips
comes at him pretty hard, and all of a sudden,
Rocky gets mad and pulls the gloves off and actually

(40:27):
starts punching him, thinking maybe this is serious. And at
the very end, uh the hull Cogan character says, hey,
it was a good job. You did a good job.
And then they get they gum it up for the
family photo and it wasn't real after all, but it
was serious. It got serious for a bit, but it
wasn't real. I think that's a great analogy. Our listeners are.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Sociald By the way, if you weren't listening at the
beginning of the show, I'd said something that was very
hard for me to say. In recognizing that Elon Musk
has realized he probably made a mistake in going after
Donald Trump, and apparently he has now apologized, said no,
it wasn't right for him to do so. And I
told mister Hughes, he was right. Do you know how

(41:04):
that is?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
That is eating keish is what that is? And I
can that was that was? That's nice that you did that.
I you know, I saw this come over. I said,
you know, I'm not going to say anything. I'm not
gonna say.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I won't you wanted to know? You wanted to?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Then you did. You brought it up on your own.
That's very you know, that's that's maimous.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
That's the term to use. Magnanimous.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I think it's I think it's I call it grown man.
I think you're a grown man.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Thank you eight eight eight five seven eight zero one
zero on your cell phone, dal pound two fifty and
say hey, Roder, We'll take more of your comments on
our talkback line here on The Wingman Wednesday edition, of
the Rod and Greg Show Talk Radio one oh five
nine k n R S Brian Wilson's very Mike Wilson
played here two summers ago.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I went out at what was then you Sauna now Utah.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
First and how what I mean? He's had some real
challenges a weekend at Bernie's type moment. I'm not sure
Brian knew he was there, but I've seen him live. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Anyway, he goes to a lot of concerts. Man is
a connoisseur of concerts. So if he says he's been
to the concerts, you know the man has he's been
there and done that.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
He's been there. Well, yesterday we had Jennica Pounds on.
She is data Republican. Yes, she has been digging into
the money behind the LA riots and it's pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I want to let our listeners know this is one
of Utah's own data Republican has a national reputation. She
has been helping members of Congress. She's been helping Elon Musk,
She's been helping Dough, She's been helping so many, especially
conservative thought leaders on social media, showing him where the
receipts are. She's very good at following the money using
AI and coding and technology. So we were the first,

(42:42):
really I think her first interview. But she's gone Hollywood,
although she's very humble, but she's just show yesterday. Yes,
she came on our program yesterday to tell us where
all this money for riots.

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Well, what she found out was this money, A lot
of this money is coming through an organization owned by
a main name. Was it Neville Singham? Yes, that was
his name, I believe I have. And he's a billionaire
and a communist punching out, you know, pushing a lot
of money into this and it has prompted two Utah
law or two US lawmakers. Greg Sender Josh Holly, the

(43:14):
Missouri Republican is now calling for a Senate investigation into
the money behind this, and Representative Anna Pauline Luna, she
is a Republican from Florida, also wants Congress to take
a look at this.

Speaker 11 (43:26):
Just found a really great deep dive here from the
Data Republican on x so who is behind all these
crazy rights in LA and that will be across the nation,
just like remember in the Summer of Love with BLM,
Remember who's organizing all that stuff? With this this specifically
is being funded by an individual by the name of
Nevill Singham who actually made his money by pushing communist

(43:49):
Chinese propaganda, became a billionaire doing it. He's now funding
And the guy behind all of these protests was also
behind and tied to the protests at Columbia University pushing
all of that if you don't remember, and then also too,
if you actually look at the social organization that's putting
out these fires, it's a Party for Socialism and Liberation,

(44:10):
which is an I kid you, not the actual communist party.
So they're using Hispanics, they're using illegal immigrants, They're trying
to hide people up thinking that they care, but they
don't care. They did, they would stop illegal immigration. Obama
deported people. Why alsen Now it's realitical.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Yeah. Representative Luna also said if this Singham guy refuses
to appear, he will be subpoena and if he ignores that,
he will be referred to the DOJ for prosecution. Now,
one of our listeners on our talkback line gave us
an idea as to what this No King's organization is
all about. What they're putting out. Here's what he had
to say.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
Hey, Rod and Greg.

Speaker 7 (44:48):
If you get a chance, go to no kings dot
org n oki ngs dot org. It is a website
to help people plan and protect themselves during a protest
and a riot.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
The left is putting this website up. It is no
kings dot.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Org n o O ki ngs dot org. I want to
think that the listener for giving us that information. But
you know this is a national thing, Greg, But they're
telling everybody be prepared if violent, if violence happens.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Yeah, it's a I think this is the again. They're
trying to rewrite history. They want to say that this
is all Trump's fault. This is all they're doing, and
they'll even if you listen closely. Even Karen Bassett it
this morning and at press conference, his raids his officers
enforcing federal law is what caused the riot. Yeah, enforcing

(45:41):
the law cannot be considered, especially from elected public servants,
the cause of violence. You cannot say that is a problem.
The enforcement of federal law. All laws, whether they're federal, state, county,
city ordinances. That's called rule of law. And you cannot
lay at the feet federal law enforcement doing their jobs

(46:02):
enforcing federal law and say that's that's that's the reason
why it all happened, because they came into their job.
If they didn't do their job prior to shame on
them for whatever reason or Trumpet or Biden administration. But
these federal agents are just complying with federal law. They're
not making it up. And if they don't like it,
they got a little too comfortable in a lawlessness, you know,

(46:23):
way of life.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
Well, we said this on the show for a couple
of days.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
This is all part of an effort to set up
the president to show that he is a king, he
is a dictator. As a matter of fact, political combinator
and entrepreneur Patrick bed David was on justse Jesse Waters
last night and he dropped a truth bond as to
what's going on here, what's behind all of this.

Speaker 9 (46:42):
Actious article came out talking about fifteen hundred protests they're
already planning in fifty states, funded by one hundred progressive organizations,
a lot of different acials. One of the Walton billionaires,
Christy Walton, name was mentioned in New York Times.

Speaker 4 (46:56):
This is a nineteen twenty.

Speaker 9 (46:57):
Billion dollar type of person. A lot of this money,
you hear all these other things that they're doing, they're
planning this.

Speaker 4 (47:03):
You know what they're looking for.

Speaker 9 (47:04):
I hate to say this, They're looking for their next
to George Floyd. That is all they need.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
They need one person.

Speaker 9 (47:10):
They need one massive crisis to have no policies. They
have no good ideas I've yet to seen. I went
on chagypt I said, can you tell me what solutions
Mayor Baths and Gavin Newsom have given to all these protesting.
There is no solutions.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, there are no solutions. They don't want a solution
to this problem, Greg, They just want to continue to
perpetuate itself and to get even worse. And like you said,
they are like like this man just said, they're looking
for George Floyd because if one person loses their lives,
you know what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
And this gives you an idea of how toxic and
how actually detrimental this.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
No.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
King's highly funded by this, Christy Walton and others, George
Soros being another, and these I'm sure these NGOs are
all involved too. There's probably federal money flowing towards these efforts.
But this is how dangerous it is. And people smile
like Walmart's a serious company and they don't want to
be associated with anything close to this. Dan Bartlett, who's
who runs Walmart's that we condemned violence, including when it's

(48:08):
directed towards law enforcement and damage of property. As a
company and associates and customers in the Los Angeles region,
we remain focused on their safety and that of impacted associates.
Here's the part that you need to pay attention to.
The advertisements from Christy Walton are in no way connected
to or endorsed by Walmart. She does not serve on

(48:29):
the board or play any role in decision making at Walmart.
They are running like cheetahs away from this woman. Okay,
they are. They don't want whatsoever. Because I believe that
people are starting to figure out that this old, tired game,
you know, game plan of the Democrat, these leftists, of
what they're going to try and do this weekend. America

(48:52):
has seen through it, We've lived it. We're not going
to go get suckered twice. Well, some will, but not
certainly not our audience. But even our audience is from friends.
Hopefully they're going to see it too.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
How many Trump supporters do you think shop at Walmart.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
Yeah, well, a lot of us like Walmart. I'm telling you,
I like Walmart and I but I'd say I was
having a.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Series when I sat when I initially saw this this
morning about the wart Walton lady coming out in support
of this score what is going on? Then I read
the company going, wait a minute, we're distancing ourselves from this.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Don't get caught up about That's about the nicest way
of saying you know, you're nuts. Yeah, I mean, I
don't know how you can say it more stronger terms
and not call her alone, you know.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
And that's what she is. Jim all right, more coming
up the Rod and Greg Show wing Man Wednesday edition
right here on Utah's Talk Radio one o five nine knrs.
You won't believe you better be ready for this, folks.
What the woke Biden administration is doing to the Jefferson
Memorial in the nation's capital.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
That's right, you will.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Next year we'll be celebrating two hundred and fifty years.
They want to make sure that we understand what Thomas
Jefferson was really all about, and no one seems to
be stopping it, at least not yet. But now this
is coming to light. Hopefully someone in the administration will
step and say no more, no more.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Right right, hey, and I well, we'll talk about this
is a breaking story right now. But it looks like
they're evacuating the military, central military out of the Middle
East right now. It looks like they're asking President Trump
tonight why people are being moved out out of the area,
and he says they're being moved out because it could
become a very dangerous place. We'll see what happens. I ran,
I can't have nuclear weapon, It's very simple. So looks

(50:37):
like it might be something happening there. But there is
an evacuation of people going on in the Middle East,
American assets right now, and UK and with others.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Other countries as well. Something maybe cooking. We'll keep our
eye on it for you. All right, another hour of
the Routing Greg Show, The wing Man Wednesday edition right
here on Utah's Talk radiold one oh five nine, can
an I stay with us? More coming up?

Speaker 1 (51:09):
So I don't know whether to talk about how much
of a raw deal Thomas Jefferson is getting at this moment,
or update you folks on the.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
He's getting a raw deal. Yeah, I mean, the poor
guy you know, instrumental in the founding of this country.
Unbelievable writer.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Yes, I mean yeah, I think I think we need
to bring attention to this with our listeners because I
didn't know this was going on. I'm shocked by it. Frankly,
especially with this current administration. I would think, and they
catch whip of this and they're gonna then they're going
to stop this.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
You've been to Washington numerous times. Yes, you've been out
to the Memorial, of course. You've been to the Lincoln
I have as well. They're absolutely amazing, I mean just inspiring.
You read you read it doesn't isn't the Gettingsburg address.
I think how the Lincolnment is it is? You know,
I think it's posted there on Jefferson many of it.
It's very solid, great savings. Well, come to find out,

(52:00):
apparently the National Park Service wants to do a loas
something different with the Jefferson Memorial. The word woke is
now coming into play.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yes, I can't believe it. I would have thought this
would have been curtailed.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
It will be now this is coming down. Joining us
on our Newsmaker line is Jeffrey Anderson. Jeff is the
president of the American Main Street Initiative. Jeff thanks for
joining us tonight. What are they doing to the Jefferson Memorial?

Speaker 8 (52:28):
Jeff Yeah, the Park Service has decided to try to
turn the Jefferson Memorial into well, basically a woke memorial
that's not really a memorial to Jefferson, but a condemnation
of him, basically over the issue of slavery. The Jefferson
Memorial for a long time has had a museum in
the basement of it that talks about Jefferson's life and

(52:48):
his ideas, and it used to be just an exemplary museum.
It was really probably the best place in all of Washington,
d C. To get a true sense of the founder's
view of things, their notions of limited government and liberty.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
It was just terrific.

Speaker 8 (53:03):
And a couple of years ago the Park Services side
has shut it down and say they're going to reconsider Jefferson.
And now they've got signed all over the players talking
about how they're going to reopen this and and it's
obviously going to be a woke presentation because they're asking
things like why a Jefferson memorial? Who, how did people think?

(53:24):
What do people think when this memorial opened. Do our
heroes change over time? Questions like this, and so it
really needs to be stopped. But it's it's a project
that's definitely in the works from the Park Service.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
You know, it shocks me. I'm embarrassed to say I
didn't know that this was even underway. And of all
administrations where something like this could be halted, it would
be the Trump administration.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
What is this?

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Do you know the status of this because I have,
I've listened to Pete Hegseth Department's defense. He doesn't seem
to be pro woke. I don't think anyone in that
administration is really embracing these this narrative that you're describing.
Is the Trump administration going to get involved in this
in the halt maybe the rewriting of the history of
Thomas Jefferson.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
Well, I certainly hope so, because otherwise it continues on
as it is. Then this new condemning Jefferson Memorial is
going to be open for the quarter millennial anniversary of
the country next year, the quarter millennial anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence two hundred and fifty years and with
Jefferson is the primary author, it would be so woefully inappropriate.
It's an apartment of the Interior that oversees this, the

(54:33):
Park Service and the memorials. But this is a project
that got going in the wake of the Charlottesville riots,
if you call those back in twenty seventeen, and the
Park Service and some of their leftist activist allies decided to,
let's present Jefferson in a totally different light. And then
I guess it sounds like the actual design for what

(54:55):
they have in what they intend to put in there
was the designs were decided during the summer of George Floyd,
so you can imagine what that entails. And then they
they had signs up saying this is going to open
last summer, and now they say it's going to open
sometime this year. So it's not entirely clear when they
expect to be finished with this. But I really I

(55:15):
think there's a good chance that Trump administration can step
in and say not on our watch, and it would
be absolutely the correct thing to do.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, we can only hope in that regard. Jeff, Jeff,
I've been there several times. I never realized there was
a museum there well, and you talk about how great
that museum was and hopefully will be in the future.
What exactly was contained in the museum, well.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
It was just such a great representation, a reflection of
what Jefferson's life was like, what is thinking was it's
FDR chose the quotes for the outside of the Jefferson Oil,
the quotes inscribed in the marble around the Jefferson statue upstairs,
and he very carefully chose quotes that would make it
look like there was no disagreement between the Founders and

(55:57):
New Deal Democrats, when in fact, the Founders believed in
a much more limited government with local control and FDR
was much more about expansive federal power. But at least
FDR celebrated Jefferson even as he tried to claim him.
The basement made it quite clear how different Jefferson's views
and the Founders writ large were from FDR, from from

(56:18):
the big government liberals of the twentieth century and the
leftists of today, and just talking about how the importance
of basic rights of property and local control, and it
went through all of Jefferson's life and is incredible sort
of renaissance man life as an inventor and educator and
president and founder, all the things that he did, architect

(56:42):
et cetera. And it was so it was it was
really superb And hopefully they will just reinstall that those exhibits,
maybe update them slightly, and have those ready for next
July fourth.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
So they're picking on Thomas Jefferson here. What about Monticello?
This is a this is a rist attraction. I've been there,
I've toured as the property. Have they gone woke over
there as well? Are they? Are they giving a different
version of Thomas Jefferson as a founding father at his
once home Monticello?

Speaker 8 (57:13):
Sadly yes, it's one of the worst places apparently for
woke presentations. It's been taken over by a private foundation.
It's really its sole purpose, I think is to denigrate Jefferson.
This is of course, all part of a larger project
by the left. It's well funded, and they want to
make our founders look like they're not people worth celebrating,

(57:35):
when in reality, the founding generation in America is probably
the greatest political class in the history of the world.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Jeff at his during his address at Fort Bragg yesterday,
the President said, the names of I think there were
seven military bases are going to be returned to their
original name and not the politically correct names. Is there
anybody in Congress bringing what's going on with the Jefferson
Memorial to the administration of Administration's attention at this point?

Speaker 8 (58:02):
Jeff I don't think Congress is paying the attention, to
be honest, but uh, but the administration. My group that
I run, the American Mainstream Initiative, we've we've made the
administration aware of what's going on, and uh, and I
think they're I think they're inclined to actually try to
step in and stop this, and I certainly hope. So

(58:25):
I think it would be great to see the uh
uh Jefferson actually celebrated on the quarter millennial anniversary of
the Declaration Independence rather than condemned.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Well, that would be too bad to see.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Greg.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
If in fact nothing has done different about what they're
trying to do at the Jefferson Memorial and make it
more woke.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
It doesn't make any sense to me. It just seems
to be completely contrary to everything else that this administration
is trying to repair in the station and trying to,
you know, pivot away from Yeah, and and this would
is this, this would fit that description. So I'm so surprising,
it's still going forward.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Stupid Jeff Anders joining us. All right, when we come back,
could the dispute over bears ears come back in the headlines.
We'll talk about that coming up right here on the
Rod and Greg Show, wing Man Wednesday edition, Talk Radio
one oh five nine k n R S. Well, that's
what this show is all about. And we educate, we enlighten,
we inform people, even our co hosts.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
You know what you know, I really do like music.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, but they're kind of before your time. But they're
they're almost timeless, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
They're timeless A And then they had that one hit
I liked my senior year in high school, that Cocomo song. Yeah,
so they you know, it touched my generation a little bit.
But no, that Salt Lake City song had no idea.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
You had no idea, no idea, pretty much. Uh. Breaking
news tonight, David Hogg is out at the d n C. Yeah,
in an overwhelming vote. By the way, the committee said,
you know, we're going to redo the vote, which you were,
Dame vice chairman. Way, we aren't going to stand for that.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
So let's just talk. Let's think about this just for
a second. So the Democrats want to save democracy, as
they like to say, they throw out you know, let's
let's accuse others of what we're trying to do. They're
trying to kill democracy or democratic republic. But they haven't
had an open primary since two thousand and eight. They've
had a coronations ever since. And then they can't even
have officers of their political party. They can't even have

(01:00:19):
that election via an authentic open race. He was voted for,
you know, and if you don't like what he's saying,
he still should have a term to serve. But they said, yeah,
we wanted to give you, We want you to think
you had a vote. But if we didn't like the voter,
or if the vote didn't really go the way we
wanted to, we're going to create the coronation. We do
it with everything else. We're gonna wipe that, wipe the

(01:00:41):
slate clean, kick him out. We're gonna put someone new
in there. They don't give a wit about anybody, including
their own. They're Central Committee, whatever you call the National
Committee members of the Democrat Party. Their votes don't count
because they just like, oh no, there was a glit.
You know, there was kind of an irregularity. I mean,
how they rigged David hogg election is now not an election.

(01:01:03):
We should be saying, wait, aren't you the ones saying
that that's an election denier? I thought, you know, you
said there was some like problem and you had to
redo it and give me a break.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I want a joke, you know, for David Hogg, I'm wondering,
growing up as a kid, if he had the nickname Piglet,
what about boss Hog? Boss Hog like a duke. He's
no boss Hog. Here we go again. In the state
of Utah, the Justice Department greg said yesterday that President
Donald Trump has the authority to revoke national monument designations

(01:01:31):
made by previous presidents, including massive tracks in California and oh,
I think we have a few here in the state
of Utah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
We sure do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:39):
The new legal opinion issued by the DOJ Disputes of
nineteen thirty eight ruling that state of monuments designated by
previous presidents cannot be undone. Donald Trump did that what
twenty seventeen. I mean, he hadn't been in an offense
very long. You were here for that. I rode with
the guy.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yep, I was here. I was speaking of the House
of the and we worked very hard after Obama created
another used ut used Utahs as political atm for the environmentalists,
and encumbered more Land as if there wasn't already enough
federal land in the state, made bearsiers in national monument.
In December of twenty seventeen, President Trump arrived in Utah

(01:02:19):
to sign a executive order that shrunk down significantly that
that national monument inappropriately. But as soon as Biden got
in office, he actually went bigger than Obama.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
Oh did he?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I didn't realized he made it bigger than Obama's and
with I don't know if that was an autopen or
if he actually did it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
But you know, well it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Rubs me wrong too. I love this. I know we
got to get to this or do we have an
interview on this? We don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:45):
No, no, we haven't interview coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
So but here's the thing about this. You know, the
state of Wyoming, in the state of Alaska, by congressional action,
have they're they're they're not subject to the Antiquities Act
that gives up President the ability to just incumber Land
the way it is being encumbered by Clinton and now
and by Obama and then Biden, they're they're exempt. Well,

(01:03:08):
what's that's not equal treatment under the law. How do
those two states get out of this game? If it's
not good enough for Wyoming in Alaska, we should not
have to have Democrat presidents make environmentalists happy by taking
more of our land.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Why case, I've never understood this, Greg, Why are cats
like this? And you it is not equal protection if
Wyoming in Alaska can do whatever they want, but Utah, Nevada,
Arizona can't do a thing. Right. I am so surprised
that Supreme Court has never taken a look at this said,
you know what, you're right, Well, you know what, we
do not get it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
It's weird what it makes its way to the Supreme
Court and the speed in which it can get there.
We have as a state, have wanted the Supreme Court
to look at this. We think obviously right now especially
we have a court that would look at this the
right way. I think it is that the intention of
the state of Utah. So the other states that are
encumbered by federally owned land. You know, if you're east of Mississippi,

(01:04:02):
you have none of this problem.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Oh there's no federal lands. Maybe a little little bit
there and a little bit there.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
They didn't they have a federal income tax back then,
and so they used to sell the land. They used
to transfer. It makes some money for the federal treasury.
Once they started getting the federal income tax, it wasn't
as big of a deal. I started keeping it hedging
their bet. If you look at how much land the
federal government kept in Utah, it's almost like when Utah
from a territory to a state. It's like the federal
government headed their bet. They're like, yeah, we'll give you
a sum, but maybe not all of it is a state.

(01:04:30):
We're not We're not there. Well, it's it's fundamentally unfair.
It needs to go away. We are penned in. You
are in an urban state when the seventy five plus
percent of your population lives in four counties out of
twenty nine and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
What is it sixty seven percent of the land in
the state is owned by the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Yes, and when you get off the Washach Front, because
a lot of our counties on the Watauch Front are
not federal land, that average of that percentng ends up
becoming eighty five ninety percent of a rural county's footprint
is federal land of which you can't put a wall,
you can't put infrastructure, you can do nothing. So how
do those how do those communities grow? How does our
population as a state grow when you have that, It's

(01:05:08):
like we're being cherrymandered. It's you know, it's like he
can't grow. This state would have a lot more I think,
healthy population, rural population, if the government didn't have federal
government didn't have control of all that land. So that's
a big deal. And I'm looking forward to seeing the
Bear's Ears Monument. By the way, when I was a speaker,
we went down there. When you tell the people that

(01:05:30):
live there, including the Native Americans that live there, the
federal government has to create a new special protection and
encumber that land because you that live around here are
not good stewards of this land, so we're going to
put extra protections on it. It is an offense. It
brought tears to the eyes of the people that lived
in San Juan County where this happened. It's wrong, It's
fundamentally wrong. And I watched these reporters from the New

(01:05:52):
York Times come watch us, and they wouldn't even interview
the people of that community to get their perspective that
we cherish our land. We grew up on this land.
We're not destroying the land. And in fact, the irony
is once you make it a national monument, the whole country,
all these you know, hippies and hikers coming, they all
get lost in there, and there's search and rescues go
through the roof and they get stuff damaged everywhere. It
gets worse when they do this.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, they sure do. All right, Well, we'll see what
happens with this, but a very important ruling coming down
from the Justice Department to rein in the federal land
grabs that are taking place under democratic administrations. All right,
when we come back on the Roden greg Show. Apparently
the media has learned absolutely nothing from the election of
last year. We'll get into that coming out right here

(01:06:33):
on Utah's Talk Radio one oh five nine. Knrs. Brian
Wilson with the Beach Boys passed away today at the
age of eighty two. Yep, too early, I say, yeah,
eighty two years old. Well, I'm really excited to talk
to this this next guest, because when it comes to big,
she's big. I mean, she she knows what's going on.
She knows what's going on. She's everywhere. This woman get

(01:06:55):
out of her way, man, because she knows everything.

Speaker 1 (01:06:57):
I'd say this is someone I would describe knows what's what,
who's who?

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
Oh that's good way, Yeah she does. We're talking about
Amanda Head from Just the News. She wrote a great
article today. That's why we wanted to bring around talking
about what the media has learned. Apparently nothing from America
is election of Donald Trump. And Amanda's on the show tonight. Amanda,
how are you welcome to the Roden Gregg Show. Thanks
so much for joining us.

Speaker 12 (01:07:20):
We're all and Greg my friends, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Oh well, your big time man. We had to get
your big time. Amanda.

Speaker 1 (01:07:26):
You're sticking with us. We appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (01:07:29):
I'm glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Tell us about I mean, you make a very good
point here. We had the election of Donald Trump in
a last November in which seventy seven million Americans said
we want this guy, we like his ideas. We have
the riots over the last few days in Los Angeles,
and here we go again. The Democrats try and say, well,
it's not a big deal, there's no violence here. Don't

(01:07:53):
believe what your eyes are showing you what's up with
the media. Apparently they have learned their lesson, Yet they.

Speaker 12 (01:08:00):
Have not learned their lesson. I mean, you think back
to the George Floyd writes in twenty twenty, that infamous
chiron on CNN that said fiery but mostly peaceful protests
with flames enveloping a building behind them, and then you
pass forward to November, as you highlighted, and you know,
I think for a lot of us, we watched what
happened on that night, and we watched what we thought

(01:08:23):
was going to be a Democrat meltdown, and in fact,
it wasn't a meltdown, which is a little it wasn't
quite as satisfying as I would have liked for it
to have been. But I think that there was on
at least on that night, there was a little bit
of self inventory that was conducted, if just briefly. And
then the days wore on, and then you know, they
started doing things like they did with two seats two

(01:08:44):
House seats in California where there was a Republican ahead,
and as the days threw on after the election, lo
and behold, eight days later, a Democrat.

Speaker 6 (01:08:52):
Ended up flipping the seats.

Speaker 12 (01:08:53):
So it's almost like they started to get a false
sense of confidence back and you know, they had their
DNC elects, and despite the fact that they claim that
they value things that in my opinion, shouldn't matter, but
things like the color of your skin and your sexual preference,
then they choose David Hogg, a straight, white male, to
be DNC co chair. A straight I'm not sure if

(01:09:15):
he's straight, A white male for d and C chair.
It just seems like they haven't learned lessons. And guys,
I mean, you look at the polling this morning. If
you watch mainstream media, they would have you believe that
everyone hates Donald Trump, that no one supports what he's doing.
But you've got a New Morning Consult poll that has
Donald Trump up up eight points, and then the last

(01:09:35):
four overnights conducted by ras Mussen had Trump at fifty one,
fifty fifty two, fifty four percent. This is a this
is not a plurality of Americans. It is truly, in
the definitive sense of the word, a majority of Americans
support President Trump. And you know, Democrats can spend it
as much as they want saying immigrant, immigrant, immigrant, but
over and over and over again, polls show that when

(01:09:58):
the American people see so like this, they don't equate
this with immigrants. The American people are smart. They know immigrants.
Their neighbors are immigrants, people at their church, people at
their school, people know immigrants. They know the difference between
an immigrant and someone who broke into this country illegally,
an illegal alien. And they also know the difference between
illegal aliens who broke the law by coming into this

(01:10:21):
country and the ones who are the subject of these
ICE rates. And you've got Eli mayor Karen Bass coming
out three days ago saying that you know these you know,
these are these are contributory people. These are you know,
will get into the sobric of our community. They're not lawbreakers,
Yes they are. If they are in this country illegally,
they are by definition illegal. They are here illegally, they

(01:10:42):
have broken the law. But that's not that's not even
the issue the people that ICE are going after they
said this since the very beginning. Worst first, and you
look at the rap sheet of these people who they
they locked up in Los Angeles, who they are deporting
or in the process of deporting. They have at least
three felonious offenses some of them had a guy from

(01:11:05):
Peru already had a ten year prison sentence. But I'm
talking to first degree assault, second degree assault, assault on
a minor, assault with a deadly weapon. Great, you know
that's over two thousand dollars. I mean, these are not
petty crimes. And I am so sick of the narrative.
But I've got to tell you, the American people are
wise to it because every time you have another Chiron

(01:11:27):
like mostly peaceful, or you have another Democrat out there
saying mostly people, the American people know what's going on.
Thank god for social media because otherwise people might buy it.
But thank goodness for social media because people can actually
see what's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:40):
So we're speaking with Amanda Head, White House corresponds for
Just the News. Everything you said. Amen, Now I'm shocked.
Governor k Newsom got on the television last night and
said that these aren't criminals. These are seamstresses and day
labors that are being picked on. I mean, it's a
completely trying to write this history. And then they said
there's no riots at all, it's all peaceful. We saw

(01:12:01):
with our eyes and we have, like as you mentioned,
social media to show us exactly what's happening in the
violence that's going on. But now they're saying they've pivoted
again there are no riots. But if there are, they're
all Trump's fault. If you've had a Nike store looted,
well that's Trump's fault. I see it. I'm posting it.
I'm showing the timeline here so they can't rewrite it.

(01:12:22):
But my question, Amanda, is are they going to be
successful and just repeating lies where everything was fine until
Trump came in and created all the violence. Do they
get away with it yet again as they have in
the past.

Speaker 12 (01:12:38):
I don't think so, because they've tried to blame everything
on Trump. You look at all of the narratives leading
up to the election, and the American people resoundingly said
no thanks, We're not buying that anymore. But speaking at
Democrats being repetitive, you hear the conversations that Democrats are
having right now on their CNN and MSNBC roundtables, and
they're talking about the hardworking plumbers and who's going to

(01:13:00):
clean our toilets? Guys, do you remember at the turn
of the Civil War, Democrats, Southern Democrats saying who's going
to pick our crops. It is the same refrain, you know,
one hundred centuries later we are hearing the same thing
from Democrats, Who's going to pick our crops? But this
time around the American people, you know, unlike in twenty
seventeen when it was Russia collusion and Charlottesville and all

(01:13:22):
of this stuff that mainstream media was somewhat effective in
messaging on and convincing on. But this time around, I
think there was too much that happened leading up to
the election. Too many lives told by the mainstream media,
too many falsehoods told by Democrats at the podium, too
many lives by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, too much
cover up of Joe Biden's senility. And now the American

(01:13:44):
people are saying, listen, I just I question everything you
have said because the most recent thing you told me
wasn't true.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
So real quickly, I've been forwarding this poll. This blows
my mind. Harry Enton from CNN showed some polling that
show that legal immigrants Trump's handling of illegal immigration. In
twenty twenty, it was a plus twenty three that supported
the illegal immigrants amongst the legal immigrants. Today, it is
minus six opposing the illegal immigrants, and I would argue

(01:14:12):
it's because it's impacting their communities in a detrimental way.
What do you make of that statistic that legal immigrants
support by majority President Trump's efforts on to get a
handle on illegal immigration.

Speaker 12 (01:14:28):
Yeah, I mean you look at Brownsville, Texas, El Paso,
Penelas County, all of these areas along the border, mainly
in Arizona and Texas, and immigrant communities. Legal immigrant communities,
by and large are affected the most by crime in
their community, crimes committed by legal immigrants, because illegal or not,

(01:14:48):
criminal or not they hang with in Hispanic communities. So
it's these people that are being dragged down. And by
the way, not just criminally, it's also affecting their economy.
It's affecting their kids' schools. All of this trickles down
to the immigrant community. And by the way, of all
of the minority demographics, whether you're talking about a demographic
based on race, religion, ethnicity, sexuality, whatever, the greatest demographic

(01:15:13):
that supports President Trump is Hispanics. And by the way,
it's by sixty points when you are talking only about
legal immigrants. So President Trump has an absolute lack on
that community, because these people know so intimately. Many of
them have family members that have been affected by the
crime of illegal immigrants in their home community. And what
breaks my heart is that so many of them are

(01:15:33):
fearful to say so within their own communities because the
media has convinced people that they are in the minority,
but they are not. And I'm proud to see a
lot of those types of folks out there on social
media and talking to their friends and neighbors saying, I
don't support this because I want my kids to grow
up in a school that is not middled with crime.
I want to have a community where I don't have
to worry about people stealing everything. I want to own

(01:15:54):
a business that's not going to shutter because of theft.
That's what immigrants want because they came to this country
the American dream, and illegal immigrants turn it into the
American nightmare.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
From Just the News, Amanda Head joining us on The
Rod and Greg Show and our Any Hour Services Newsmaker line. Amanda.
Great to have you on the show, hope to have
you back and enjoy.

Speaker 12 (01:16:12):
The Thanks so much, all right, thank you, absolutely same
to you.

Speaker 9 (01:16:16):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Thanks guys, that's Amanda Head from Just the News. She
makes some very good points. I think the real point
that's interesting Greg that she said, remember during the Civil War,
we need we need the slaves to pick our cotton. Yeah,
who's going to do the Democrats or say the agriculture
we need we need the illegal immigrants to make our
beds and cut our grass.

Speaker 4 (01:16:34):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Yeah, the elitism and the disconnect from everyday Americans in
terms of their rhetoric is just shocking. And let them
keep going. I mean, I I'm amazed at how many
people still subscribe to it. But it's but I think
the majority of it. I think that that that is
the most telling UH poll is that legal immigrants support
the president to enforce the law on illegal immigration. I

(01:16:56):
think that that tells it. All Right, there, he's right
on this one. All right, more coming up, final segment
of The Rotten Great Show on Utah's Talk Radio one
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