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June 12, 2025 80 mins
The Rod and Greg Show Daily Rundown – Thursday, June 12, 2025

4:20 pm: YouTube journalist Nick Shirley, a Utah resident, joins the program for a conversation about his experiences venturing into the heart of the anti-I.C.E. protests in both Los Angeles and New York this week.

4:38 pm: Economist Steve Moore, co-founder of Unleash Prosperity, joins Rod and Greg for their weekly conversation about politics and the nation’s economy, and today they’ll discuss the latest on Trump’s tariffs and his doubts on the President’s deal with China.

6:20 pm: Joel Kotkin, Presidential Fellow in Urban Futures at Chapman University and Executive Director of the Urban Reform Institute, joins the show for a conversation about his piece for Spiked Online in which he ponders if Los Angeles, given this week's violent protests, is capable of hosing the 2028 Olympic games

6:38 pm: Lesley Davis, President and CEO of the Mississippi Advocacy Group and Vice Chair of the Mississippi Republican Party joins the program to discuss her piece for the Daily Signal reacting to the Department of Education’s decision that sororities that admit male members will lose Title IX exemptions.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We love adversity because we just keep getting stronger. We're
getting the muscle memory, we're getting it all. A lot
going on, but I think this country is getting stronger
with every single turn as the as the what's as
day turns, as the world world.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
Yeah, I was a I was a young and the restless.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah you need help. Well we have got at school
a dynamite show again. Today. Our good friend Nick Shirley
is going to come on the show. If you don't
know Nick, he's a Utah kid. He has no fear.
He goes into the belly of the beast, be at
the riots in La the riots in New York. He's
there to find out what's going on. And he's going

(00:43):
to be joining us coming up in a few minutes.
We'll talk to Nick about all his experiences out there
during the last several days.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's been a wild one. He's been in Al Salvador,
he's been in Ireland. He goes wherever that wherever there's
a hotspot. This this young man, and he's got a
unique way about him. But he's got a high following
on YouTube. And I'm telling you he's from Utah. And
we're going to get at the lowdown. He was in
La over the weekend, he was in he was in
New York City last last night, Yeah, last night. He'll
be explaining what happened in New York. Rather interesting seeing

(01:11):
in New York with Nick. Also, Steve Moore is going
to show up. He'll take a look at all the
economic numbers. They're good, they are, yeah, he is.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Job numbers were a little shaky today, but everything else
looking pretty darn good.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know, it's fun that we have as this weekly
contribution from Stephen Moore. He's a he's an advisor and
economic policy advisor to President Trump. He's he's really there,
he's in the room when it happens. And it's nice
that every every week he takes some time to really
give us the lowdown on what's happening. And it's all
upside right now.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
We'll talk about that also later on in the show.
In a couple of years, do you realize Los Angeles
is going to be hosting the Summer Olympics?

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Good luck?

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Next year? Next next year, Greg, they have the World Cup,
which is a huge event, and then two years later
it's going to be the Summer Olympics. You think LA
will be ready.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
Look, you couldn't you couldn't look at a lack of
leadership and think that a state or a city could
be further away from hosting the planet Earth on anything
the way that that state and city are being run currently.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Yeah, that's for sure. Well, as you know, Greg, the
big talk of the town today is a California senator
way out of line today in Los Angeles, Christy Nome,
who was holding she's the head of Department of Homeland Security,
holding a news conference. It really was a news conference
just to let people know what's going on and ice
efforts to try and get everything under control. Started the

(02:30):
news conference, and then all of a Senate, all of
a sudden, Senator Alex Padia, he's a member of the
US Senate representing the state of California, shows up and
starts disrupting things. I mean, it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well, we tell you before you hear this that this
was a US center. Understand, nobody in the room knew
who this loan was that was coming in there screaming
right as she began to speak.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, here's what happened. Briefly for the secretary because the
fact that the matter is on your Now this where
security is now starting to push him out of the
way and get him going, and they eventually have to
cuff him for two minutes or few minutes. Well, here's Christineome.

(03:17):
This is what she said and her reaction to what
happened today.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
I would say, as we were conducting a press conference
to update everyone on the enforcement actions that are ongoing
to bring peace to the city of Los Angeles, and
this man burst into the room, started lunging towards the podium,
interrupting me and elevating his voice, and was stopped, did
not identify himself and was removed from the room. So
as soon as he identified himself, you know, appropriate actions

(03:43):
were taken. But I would say that, you know, I
had a conversation with a senator after this. We sat
down for ten to fifteen minutes and talked about the
fact that nobody knew who he was, He didn't say
who he was, that until he was already had been
lunging forward, and people were trying to detain him for
quite a period of time, and that this you know,
we're leaders, were public servants, and if he had requested

(04:04):
a meeting, I would have loved to have sat town.
Had had a conversation with him that coming into a
press conference like this is political theater. It's wrong and
it does a disservice to this country and the people
who live here. So we sat down, had a conversation.
We probably disagree on ninety percent of the topics, but
we agreed to exchange phone numbers. We'll continue to talk
and share information. And I think that's the way it

(04:26):
should be in this country.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
I wish boy. That says a lot about Christy Nolan.
Hear this guy, he just loses it at this news conference, right, Yeah.
They have to push him out of the room. They
handcuff him for just a couple of seconds, and she decides,
I'm going to go talk to him. So she sits
down in a room with him after this is all
over and listen to what he has to say.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
And folks, this isn't during a Q and a portion
of the press conference. He is just beginning the press
conference that start to inform the people that are at present.
And I think I heard in there him screaming. Isn't
He is so unhinged though, that is he tries to
say who he is and his name is You can't
it's not audible, you can't hear. He's not acting like
a United States senator. So CNN gets a hold of this.
Now they want to make it that it's always a

(05:05):
Republican's fault. If it's not Trump's fault, it's his secretary,
you know, his cabinet secretary's fault. And they so they
have their legal correspondent that's there to give them all
the information, and they ask like, wow, this was a
federal building, Like why would this ever happen. Let's listen
to CNN's legal expert explain what the challenge was in

(05:26):
this room.

Speaker 6 (05:27):
It's it's easy to think about this as one incident,
but actually from a law enforcement perspective, we're really looking
at three separate incidents that happened within a short period
of time. First, you have the DHS secretary who is
addressing the press. This was not a Q and A period,
and she's interrupted. She's interrupted by someone who was speaking
very loudly, and so her security detail confronts what we

(05:49):
obviously now know to be the senator and at that
point he is now going to be escorted out. You
can't interrupt something like that that's already in progress. Without
having those consequences. But the second incident, in my view,
happens the moment as officers are trying to lead him
out he then turns and walks back towards kind of
into those agents. At that point, from a security detail perspective,

(06:10):
we're taking this person out against their will. We've asked
the person, and again, this is all happening very quickly.
But the moment he then turns into them, they realize
this is not someone who is going to comply.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Why, yeah, what's amazing here? This is CNN? Yeah, this
is CNN.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
They weren't that I legal expert could not put lipstick
on that page, No at all.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And he's explaining it exactly why this guy was rushed
out of this room and appropriately so.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And look, if you could, if it's one thing to
hear what we just shared with you, but if you
get a chance, you need to watch the video because
it's it's performative, I guess. But he is just acting
so erratic and so aggressive. There's just no there's no
place for it, whether it was this press conference or
really anywhere. If we were standing here at this radio
station and someone came in acting this way, people would

(06:57):
call nine one one because his behavior is over the top.
It is not the way that we've seen public servants
conduct themselves in any environment, let alone a cabinet secretary
holding a press conference like this. I don't know what
is in the minds of these democrats and how they're
what they think are or good or the way they

(07:18):
should be acting, but I think they are drawing a
further and further away from the everyday American people. I
don't think anyone understands what he was doing right there.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Well, the American people look at this, say the questions
you just asked, What on earth are you doing there?
What are you trying? I mean, this is the same
center who two nights ago said violence, there's all violence
in Los Angeles right now, these are nothing but peaceful demonstrations.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Yeah, they're just having fun watching cars burn. Why would
you interrupt that. It's just you know, they got the s'mores,
the marshmallows. It's just fun, fun.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Very expensive cars burn, and police get.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Out with the killjoy. Come on, yeah, you know, it's
just a car burning. What's the you know, drama queen?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
And guess who's defending what he did? Gruesome newsom of
course he is and Karen Bass both are out there saying, hey,
what he did. This just another example of how the
Trump administration treats every day America.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
I will absolutely guarantee you that if either one of
those the governor of that mayor, had begun a press
conference under the same circumstances and someone came charging in
in facting the exact same way, their security details would
handle it, no different.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Same that would happen. Yeah, all right, Well we'll go
out on the streets with Nick Shirley, YouTube reporter Extraordinary
to find out what's been going on with the demonstrations
that's coming up here on the Rodding Gregg Show. Great
to be with you on this Thursday afternoon, if you
want to be a part of the program. Eight eight
eight five seven oh eight zero one zero eight eight
eight five seven oh eight zero one zero. A little
bit more in this whole Padia thing that happened today

(08:48):
with the news conference Christy Nolan was holding in Los Angeles.
Now they're storming Senator Thune's office. What is this all about?

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, so this this congressman, his name is Maxwell Alejandro Frost.
He's a member of Congress from Florida Democrat also describes
himself as an organizer. He he is leading a charge,
a march and of citizens. I would imagine to Senator
soon the Senate Majority Leader's office to uh, because there

(09:18):
must be accountability for the detainment of a senator. This
is not normal. So we actually shared with you folks
what happened from the beginning to the end, and even
CNN Zone legal analyst saying, no, this was a law
enforcement issue. It would it would need to be contained.
If it happened, because nobody knew what was going on.
It was wrong. And if you watch and when you

(09:38):
watch the video, if you see it tonight or at
some point, you'll see that the man's behavior is just
one hundred percent unacceptable and it's it's something that deserves
you have to remove that. For anyone to march on
the United States Senate Majority Leader's office to demand accountability
for the detainment of a senator is the most Yeah,
it's just it's just again performative. It has no on

(10:00):
the truth of what really happened there. The person who
should be really issuing a massive apology and should be
pretty embarrassed right now is this senator for acting the
way he did.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
California to do that for sure. Now this young man
Greg and I we're big fans of his. We're talking
about Nick Shirley. He's a Utah kid, a YouTube journalist.
He goes to like the riots in LA, the riots
in New York, all these hotspots around Saleh and he
talks to people about what's going on. Well, we were
able to catch up to Nick and he's joining us

(10:30):
on our newsmaker line. Nick, you've been in LA, you
were in New York last night. Give us your assessment
as to what you've seen with these demonstrations right now.

Speaker 7 (10:38):
Well, it's crazy what's happening here in the United States
that people are hitting the streets. They're obviously very upset.
I don't know if all of them understand if they're
protesting out a good face for the reason why they
are protesting, But chaos is ensuing everywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
You know. One of the things I find curious about
your videos is that you don't go with a MAGA
hat on. There isn't anything that you're wearing that would
say that you oppose what they're there to protest for.
I think you're documenting it. I think you're asking good questions,
but the hostility that you're able to capture on your
videos of how people are treating you. Why are they
getting so angry with you? I don't I don't see
what it is about your presence that is raising their ire.

Speaker 8 (11:18):
I think the thing.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
About my presence is that I don't look like one
of them. I look more like a normal person that's like, yeah,
and they can tell.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So, so tell me about last night. I so I
loved it. You caught the There's a New York Police
police officer that says to you your he spots that
you're being touched, and he's like, they're not. They can't
touch you like this. You wants to do something about it?
He said, I would like you to do something. He
puts it, gets on that big megaphone. He says, you
keep touching him, you're going to get arrested in any defense.
Like they're complaining about you, he's not touching anyone. Is

(11:51):
that the sentiment of the NYPD the other night? Generally
it was that just a guy he looked like, was
that just one guy that was just a hero? What
what is NYPD doing in those situations with those crowds?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
A bit of both NYPD. Uh, it's it's great. They
they really have the best I believe they have the
best hopes for like everybody, and they understand like what
was happening. They saw that I was getting attacked, and
they've they these guys have been dealing with these protesters
for almost a year straight now because last year it
was the Palestime protest and now this year, those exact

(12:28):
same people from Power the Post singing protesters are now
protesting anti ice rates and so these these police are
fed up, I believe. And uh, they saw what was
happening with me, and obviously it wasn't right. They were
I was getting attacked by like hundreds of people and
they were like.

Speaker 9 (12:45):
Well, like.

Speaker 7 (12:48):
They came to my defense and said, do you want
us to do something? I said no, I said, well,
they asked me if I want them to be arrested.
I was like, yeah, you can make the rest of it.
Two happens.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
Nick. You know you're out there questions, you're recording this,
you're filming this, whatever you want to call. Do you
think you're doing anything to provoke these people to want
to go after you by simply asking questions? Is that
all you're doing? And is that provoking them? Do you feel?

Speaker 7 (13:15):
Yeah, I don't know why they feel like I'm trying
to provoke them or like I'm some sort of agitator.
I really do just go there and ask them questions,
and if you watch my videos, you realize like some
of these people do have good reasoning why they're there.
They're upset because maybe they've had somebody who's been deported
in their family and they're there to protest to that.
And I'll let anybody talk on my life streams or

(13:35):
anybody talk my videos, and I don't ever try to
cut them off to press them, and more than anything,
I just like question their reasoning because a lot of
times the reasoning doesn't make too much sense. So ask
them like, oh, so, like if your grandma sold her
house to your neighbor two hundred years ago, you could
go back and take it and they're like no, I'm

(13:56):
like and then it's like, well, we can't do that
with Mexico either, like we bought that end. So a
lot of these logic in things that at timeside these
universities makes them feel like us Americans are bad people
for doing what we did in the past, and that
we need to be how responsibilities for those not even
crimes for those actions, and it's that's not how it

(14:18):
should be.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
So you're a Utah guy. I love that you're from here.
You're all over though, you're you spend the globe really
and what you're able to capture on on video. You're
on YouTube very popular. I saw a post from you
yesterday where you were reaching out through x to YouTube
but creators YouTube and you Team YouTube saying that you
had a video that had uh what two point three
million views, thirty four thousand comments, uh and it had

(14:41):
been restricted and that you were in that the appeal
that you had submitted had been rejected within ten minutes.
What video did they pull down or restrict? Age? Restrict?
And I noticed that your post has been has been deleted.
Have they resolved that to your satisfaction?

Speaker 7 (14:55):
YouTube somewhat they took down a my video from LA
and it was because there, I guess there was a
slur in it that was somebody that's in the background
that I didn't catch and their there. I caught it
and so I had to work around that. And it's
been taking the past twenty four hours to get everything resolved.
But it looks like they're going to help me out

(15:15):
and get resolved.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
All right, Nick, where are you going to be this weekend?
A lot going on this weekend? What do you expect
to have happened? Nick? Any predictions? At this point?

Speaker 7 (15:27):
It's going to be crazy. Last night I was in
New York City. Right now I'm in Washington, DC, and
we're gonna see what happens here.

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Oh, that's a hot it's gonna be a hotbed. Yeah,
that's where the parade's going to happen, and there's going
to be quite Uh do you hope it?

Speaker 4 (15:40):
So?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Is it mostly peaceful? I mean that's a that's a
funny phrase. Now mostly peaceful when there's all this fire
and everything going on. But are people are the organizers
of what's happening right now looking at just getting crowds,
maybe blocking traffic really generally just being in everyone's way,
or do you or do you worry that there will
be actual violence? It's like we saw in Los Angeles

(16:01):
coming this weekend.

Speaker 7 (16:04):
This weekend will definitely be violence in some of those
cities like LA and Seattle, nip they did a very
good job of like the most violent thing that happened
with them was like people breaking the barriers and stuff
they don't really put up at the BS. But in
those other states like La Show, like California, Washington, who

(16:26):
knows what could happen there.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Nick Shirley, you're a gutsy guy. Thanks for joining us,
because he mentioned he'll be in Washington this weekend for
the big You've got the big parade that the President
is putting on to recognize the two hundred and fiftieth
anniversary of the US Army. And then you've got these
no king events taking place here in Utah and around
the country. And tell you what's going to be interesting.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I'll be watching his YouTube channel, Nick Shirley, Nick and
S S h I R L E Y Nick Shirley
on YouTube. Check out the channel. It's it's it's like
having a front row seat.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
YEA, better than coming up on the there's the addition
of the Rotten Gregg Show. Let's think about this, Greg.
The first five months of Donald Trump's presidency, we have
seen democrats and media opponents completely lose their minds over
what he's doing with the economy. But now the numbers
are starting to come in and things are looking pretty
darn good. Aren't they They are. It's every day. They

(17:20):
were upset about eggs prices, Well they've gone down. They're
upset about whatever it was that they were that they
came out the gate going after tariffs, you know what,
you name it.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Everything the whole world was going. He was destroying it all.
Every economic sign is heading up.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, sure is. Steve Moore is joining us. He is
the former top economic advisor for President Trump now with
the Committee to Unleash Prosperity. Great newsletter that you should
sign up and get every day. Steve, thanks for joining
us tonight. Give us your take on all the various
economic reports we've seen coming in. They look pretty good.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
You took the words right out of my mouth. I
think that all the signs are pretty positive right now.
We've got a very good inflation report where we're headed
back down to two percent inflation. I think we're at
about two and a half percent inflation right now, which
is a lot better than nine percent that we had
under Biden in this term in office, So that's really good.
The numbers on employment are pretty good. We've got, you know,

(18:14):
a record number of Americans working today, and the the
it looks more and more likely that we're going to
get this big, beautiful bill passed. It's I don't think
we're gonna get done by fourth of July, although I've
got my fingers crossed on that. But they're going to
get done by the end of the summer, and that
will be a big boost for the economy as well.
And incidentally, all of Trump's critics were wrong, wrong, wrong

(18:34):
as usual number a month two months ago they said, Oh,
we're going into a great depression.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Remember, Yeah, that's so. That's what I was going to say,
is that I heard a new phrase that's been coined.
And I don't know who started, but there's a new TDS.
It's a tariff deranged syndrome. Does it look like showing
up with the inflation or anything else? I think Mary,
maybe Secretary Vesson referenced, I don't know who created it

(18:59):
is probably you, But tell me where are these tariffs?
What's happening there? Is? Are these agreements going to work out?
That looks like even the World Bank thinks this might
be a good idea.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Now, well, look, I'm not a big fan of terrorists
as they are attached.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
To say that every time we talk like.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
These I always say it because because if I don't,
then all my all my libertarian friends will come after
me and say, Steve More, you're a squish. So but
but you know the truth is that you're right. Trump
has used these in a very strategic way, you know
he has, and uh he's forced these other countries to
come to the table to offer a better deal.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
You're right.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Even the World Bank, which is a free trade group,
said hey, you know right, And what they basically said
was that Trump was right that these other countries do
have higher terrists and non terrorf barriers on our goods,
then we placed on their goods and that's not a
level playing field. So listen, I mean, this is a
pro business present. I saw him today at the press
conference that he had in the Rose Garden. He a

(20:00):
vintage for him. You know, he's just a common sense guy.
And it's not in case you didn't see it. And
I want to make sure your listeners know we got
rid of the ev mandate. Thank you by whatever how we.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Want to yay Steve, what are you hearing about the
China deal because the President, you know it's come out
and said we've got a deal. We've got to work
out all the details. We've got to sign off on it.
What what are you hearing about it? And what are
your thoughts on it?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Steve Well, I'm a little bit of a doubting Thomas
on that one. Don't tell the President I said it,
you know, I'm just worried that. You know, I'm sure
he does have a deal with them, but I just don't.
I don't have any confidence that they're going to keep
the deal. I mean, I wouldn't trust these guys as
far as I can spit. I mean, you know, President

(20:44):
Gill sign any piece of paper, but do you think
that they're going to live by this. You have to
have verification, you have to have punishment if they violate
the rules. And so this is the very first step
and a long journey to get China to behave itself.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
So I'd like to know there was reference to the
interest rates in our FED chairman. I don't know when
this appointment is up. I don't know who. If the
President prisident Trump gets an opportunity to point a new
chair of the Federal Reserve, well.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That that would that that would be me.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Brother, Are you when are you running the Fed? When
don't you get this thing? Worked out. It looks like
there's just a lag going on.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
You might laugh at you might laugh at that, but
I couldn't possibly be worse than than Jerome Powell was.
I mean, by the inflation go up to the nine
and a half percent and thirty percent in Trump's and
Biden's first term, and then slam the brakes on the
money supply. He's like a drunk driving a car down
a highway. So I think, you know, I think it
might be Scott Besson. I think it might be my
buddy Laugher, maybe Larry Cudlow, maybe Kevin Hassett. There are

(21:49):
a lot of very good people, and Trump wants them
out as quickly as possible. So by the by this
time next year, we will have a new FED chairman,
for sure.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Will you talk to us if you're the Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
I will not remember the little people help me all
the way up.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
But if he offers me the job, I.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Have to say, well, there's a station in Utah Wesalt
Lake that I do every Thursday, and I'm not giving
that up.

Speaker 9 (22:12):
Good.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Remember, folks, we'll appreciate Steve. Let's talk real quick about
the big beautiful bill we had. Mike Lee on the
other day, he said, the big the bill is big,
but it's not beautiful yet. We're working on that. What
are they going to have to do to make this
bill beautiful? Do you think, Steve Well?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
I agree entirely with his assessment. It's it's I give
it a B grade. I'd like to see an A
or a nine US grade for this bill. But you know,
my friend Mike Lee, and my friend Ron Johnson in Wisconsin,
and my friend Rampaula right that there are not spending
cuts really much at all in this bill. And you know,
when we're spending any five trillion dollars over the next
ten years, surely we can find maybe eight ten percent

(22:51):
of that budget we could get rid of easily. So
I'm disappointed that there aren't more cuts, but it is
absolutely essential we get the bill passed. Uh And you know,
why do we Why aren't we phasing out these green
enterry substies. Let's just get rid of them entirely immediately.
You know, we these were just Biden your giveaways that
spend billions of dollars that are unnecessary, and and why

(23:11):
can't we codify the changes that that the the reforms
that elon must put into place. Maybe if he did that, uh,
then maybe Trump and Elon might kiss and make up.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Yeah, yeah, you never know, Steve, final question for you.
You mentioned the EV mandates. The President did away with
that today and now we see this news the GM
apparently is going to be spending a lot more money
to expand their their their factories to handle the demand
for gas powered vehicles. Another sign of a good strong economy.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Steve, Yeah, it is, and that's it's that where will
that plant be? Will that be in Michigan or where?

Speaker 10 (23:49):
No.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
I think they're just expanding what they already have is
what they're they're going to reinvest in that property.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah. So I think that the the car companies, American
car companies made a big mistake under Biden, where they basically, okay,
we're just going to switch over to you know, to
to EV's. And by the way, I'm not against EV's
and they're wonderful cars. I've got a lot of people
listening to the show have a Tesla or EV. But
people should be able to buy whatever the tower they want.
And the problem was the more Trump tried to i mean,

(24:16):
Biden tried to force people to buy them the less
people boughts, So I like, I don't know about you, guys.
I like the hybrids, you know, where you can have
half electrics cash and those make a lot of sense.
That's what we have and we love it.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Steve Moore joining us here on the any of our
Newsmaker line talking about the economy and Greg Is. He
indicated a lot of reports out there, a lot of
indications economy's starting to do pretty darn well.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
I know it's it's fun. And you know, Steve Moore
has got to he's got to scrap the I don't
like tariffs. Yeah, he has to always it's like a disclaimer,
you know. Anyway, he likes it, he likes he knows it,
he's all in.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
He does. They decided to ask baseball players, not fans,
but players right, for the best and worst organizations in baseball?
What do you think came in? Who do you think
came in? Number one?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Is the worst?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
No, the best?

Speaker 1 (25:05):
The best? Yeah? Probably your Yankees.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Dodgers, right, is right, the Dodgers number one and Yankees
number two. Guess who's at the bottom of the list.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Well, my pirates deserve to be so I'm realistic about this.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
They are in the athletics.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
The would be bad Marlins are the Marlins.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
They're not doing very well if you're in front of me. Arounding. Now,
let's see Yankees, Braves, Cubs, and Guardians formerly known as
the Cleveland Indians on the top side, bottom Athletics Chicago, Colorado,
Miami and number five at the very bottom the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, you know what we deserve it. The team drives
me crazy. It's just a passionate fan I am. And
you know I was born into it. I inherited this team.
It's like family. You can't pick your family.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yes, all right, Mark, coming up? Our number two of
the Rondict Greg Show is donn It's way to stay
with us? And boy did they get roasted. Tim Walls
saying I support law enforcement blah blah blah. And then
when Congressman brings up well in this so and so
a year you tweeted out that you want your people

(26:15):
to ignore law enforcement and ignore federal law enforcement. How
do you justify that? And then we just saw this
exchange with Kathy Hokel, who's the governor of New York.
If she knows these criminals who they're putting behind bars,
so no, I don't know them. These are rapist, child molesters, murders,
but she's never heard of them and doesn't know anything
about them. Yet she's letting them run on the streets.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Yeah, she's protecting him. She's actually I don't know. I
don't think any of the line of questioning is not
looking good for them. I don't know why they showed up.
You've got JB. Pritzker from Illinois. He went off one
of his questions, want to let a little off topic,
and they said, so you encouraged everyone for boys to
use the lady's room. Have you ever used the lady's room?

(26:58):
And he said, I'm not. And he says, so you're
telling others to do it, but you you wouldn't. He goes,
I've never said anyone should do that. And they then
they give him as or he shows where he did it.
I don't know why these three governors, Walls of Pritzker
and Hokeel came to this meeting if they didn't have
better answers than they did. But the answers they gave
show that they're squarely on the sides of illegal immigrants, criminals,

(27:19):
criminal illegal immigrants, and people that would harm children, and
and and think that guys should be in a ladies' room,
that a lady might not want a guy in a
ladies room. And it's it's just a It just kind
of shows where they're at, and they're under oath, and
you can't lie to Congress. That's at least the same.
You know, we're supposedly the law.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well, today, Greg, the the law enforcement here in the
state put out media guidelines as to how we are
to cover the no King's demonstrations that are coming up
this weekend.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Right locally, right local?

Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, Yeah, they did hear locally because there will be
some demonstrations and planned protests out there. Well, the President
today was asked about these test and the fact that
they're calling him no Kings. Here was his response.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
Severald no Kings protests planned across the country on Saturday
as well.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
What are your thoughts on those?

Speaker 7 (28:11):
What are they going?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
No King?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
No Kings. I don't feel like a king.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I have to go through hell togainst. A king would
say I'm not gonna get this.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
A king would have never had the California mandate to
even be talking to him.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
He wouldn't have to call up Mike Johnson.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
And Thune and say, fellas, you got to pull this off,
and after years we get it done.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
No, no, we're not a king.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
We're not a king at all, Thank you very much.
It's so true. It's like, you know, it isn't a king.
It's this whole three branch thing. He's speaking like a
true leader of the executive branch. You've got the legislative
branch to deal with. He's definitely dealing with the judiciaries
right now, that branch of government. And so yeah, there's
no king to be found. He's like, oooh, I wish

(28:52):
it'd be nice to be a king all the world.
I had to go through hell to get something done.

Speaker 3 (28:56):
Has anyone that you know of, Greg, and I know
you're like me. We pay a lot of attention to
the news. Has anyone out there who opposes Trump when
they say democracy is in trouble, democracy is being threat
or he's a king, explain what they mean by that.
Have you ever heard anyone say this is why we
think democracy is in trouble? Is democracy being threatened because

(29:19):
Donald Trump is following the law, is and removing people
who are here illegally criminal people who are here illegally.
Is that a threat to democracy? Or is he a
king because he wants to honor the US army with
a big parade this Saturday in the nation's capital as
they make it two hundred and fifty years. I mean,
I've never met Maybe someone in the audience tonight can

(29:42):
explain to me why they think Donald Trump is a
threat to democracy or why they think he's a king.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Well, it's because he's bold. So what the left has
decided is that if you do not subscribe to if
you do not obey the worldview and the agenda they have, well,
then you are a threat to they whatever it is.
And they want to say democracy because it gets the
most attention, but that you are a threat to them.
You're a threat to so called democracy. What they've been used,

(30:10):
what they've been able to do or with Republican presidents
and members of Congress in the past, is raise them
asery index make it so hard and then everybody gets
quiet and they actually get to keep moving the way
they want. Trump does not, so they say he's authoritarian.
Why because you will not push him off the things
he's working to do within the law. But they are
just aghast that he would that federal agents would actually

(30:31):
enforce federal law in terms of illegal entry into this country.
How dare you? It's a law, they're enforcing the law.
But they thought, as has happened in the past, they
could absolutely make it so bad for you and make
it so uncomfortable for you to actually enforce federal law
in regardless immigration that you would stop doing it. And
because he won't, that's what makes him a threat to

(30:52):
the king. You know, he went out and he went
and realigned these tariffs. How that's that's something a king
would do easy. He has a right to go and
have these negotiations. And even where the court said that
he might not, he's telling those countries, all right, you
can go with you can go with that, or you
can go with negotiating. And they've and they've they've come
and he's done what other presidents have done. But he

(31:14):
does it with a I think, just with a with
a firmness and with a yeah, he's resolute. And because
of that, the Democrats, just the leftists have just never
confronted someone like him, and that's that's where that's where
the whole I think the narrative that he's created all
this it's because he hasn't conformed.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Well, tell me the difference between this Greg what was
it several years ago, Joe Biden, if he was with us,
you know, if he was. But he issues this this
mandate everybody on EV's you have to drive an ev right. Yes,
he wasn't called a king or a dictator. Then nope,
Donald Trump comes out today and says we're getting rid
of it, no more of it. Now they're calling him
a king. That's your dictator. Explain the difference to me,

(31:57):
because I can't. I can't figure.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
It's it's it's who's reporting it. It's their worldview. Biden
in the left as they subscribe the regime media subscribes
to it, so they don't. They would never, they would
never report it in a negative way. They are going
to report what President Trump does because they don't they
frankly don't agree with it. Go back to New York
City with the he was getting rid of all the stoves,
the wood burning stoves, the way the pizza guys make

(32:19):
all their pizzas. He just with one fail swoop said nope,
you're not doing that anymore. It's gonna put all those
pizza shops across the country, but a lot of attention
in New York City out of business. Yeah, that I
think someone could have called Biden a king at that
time or a dictator because he was just making his
own executive order on environmental rules that were where a
lot of shops, a lot of small businesses would not
be able to comply, and he wasn't backing off.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well, how about this one. How about the National Guard?
In this dispute over the National Guard, he calls out
the National Guard to go to Los Angeles's criticize for that.
He won the National Guard to be there on January sixth.
Nancy Pelosi didn't go along with him. She's been criticized
for that. You know, the hypocrisy is so thick in
this country today with Democrat I just think they've been

(33:01):
using it for ten years. The Trump is bad, Trump
is a dictator, Trump is a king.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
You can you can do it. But I think it's
why seventy seven million people voted for Trump in November,
and I think it's why his approval ratings are higher
than it certainly were in the first term. Yeah, because
that mantra just doesn't stick anymore.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, that's for sure. All right, we want to get
to some of your phone calls on this today, and
we'll talk more about what happened to LA today with
Senator Padilla acting like a real statesman. We'll get into
that that's coming up on The Rod and Gregg Show.
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Speaker 3 (34:11):
If you don't drop like ugly words on us. Will Yeah,
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Speaker 1 (34:17):
That only happens when you. I think that show you
you're the one that brings out that, not not any
what the words, Yeah, the bad ones, no idea stire bears.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
I'll talk to you. Donald Trump, he's a dictator, he's
an authoritarian. He's busting up the constitution. Were they coming
up with those arguments eight eight eight five seven o
eight zero one zero or on our talk back to line.
It's amazing to help the media is treating this. This
just the theatrics put on by this California senator today, Greg.
I mean, he shows up Christine Nomans there in LA

(34:50):
holding a news conference right just to kind of give
people an update as to what's going on. This senator
who nobody. I didn't know he was a California state
senator until I saw name, not a state center, Yes,
us senator. I mean yeah, I always thought who was
who is?

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Shift is the other shift?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yefless shift?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Boy?

Speaker 1 (35:07):
They got a dream team over there, don't they.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
But this guy shows up, okay, and she's holding a
news conference, and all of a sudden he said. He
interrupts her. He says, I got a question for you,
and he keeps almost charging her with this question. Nobody
knows who he is. They're there to protect Christy Nome.
So people security people step in and push him back
and push him back. He keeps on trying to get forward.

(35:29):
They push him back again, and eventually they push him
out of the room and put a handcuffs on him.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Look, I look, I know it's a small pool here
in Utah. It's but i have participated in countless press conferences.
I've done it on my own. I've done it with
the governor, I've done it with the Senate President to speaker.
I've with members of our with senators from Utah and
members of the House representatives or Congress.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
So I've been through a lot of these. I've been
even more. I will tell you that if anyone behaved,
I mean anyone in the public. As you began a
press conference that was scheduled and it was cameras there,
and you go to the podium and to the mic,
and you are there to begin the press conference because
it is as a public policy issue that you're there
to discuss. If any person were to act the way

(36:15):
this US senator did, there would be and should be
someone to take them out of the room, because it's
not a Q and a part. It is not something
that is meant to be interrupted. It's the cameras. A
lot of times they're filming it live or they're broadcasting
it live when you time your press conferences. But the
point is this, if you're a United States senator, the
person who should be issuing the apology and feeling about

(36:36):
an inch tall right now is that senator. He was
not behaving like a public servant. He wasn't behaving like
a civil adult at all, and there shouldn't be They
shouldn't be marching on on senator through the US Senate
majority leader's office to seek accountability why he was handcuffed.
That man no one knew who he was.

Speaker 9 (36:55):
He was so.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
Aggressive in there, and he should be ashamed of himself.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
He's being hailed as a hero today by many Democrats
out there. As a matter of fact, you had a
story that there are some demonstrators in Washington who are
now trying to get into John Thune's office. He's the
majority leader of the Senate, calling for an investigation into
this here's the investigation. Senator, you're out of line. You
spend a day in jail, I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Come. You have a cabinet secretary there who does have
has security, and you saw someone charging towards her, screaming
and yelling, and that was There was no thoughtful questions,
there was no dialogue, There wasn't some you know it was.
It was just hostile from the moment he walked into
that room and as he was shouting. And there is
no one, including CNN's own legal expert, that could justify

(37:41):
this what this senator.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Doing way that audio sound by this is okay, this
is a guy on CNN. I can't believe this. But
he's also explaining why, bringing up various factors into all
of this as to why this Senator Padilla was out
of line during this news conference today.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
It's easy to think about this as one incident, but
actually from a law enforcement perspective, we're really looking at
three separate incidents that happened within a short period of time. First,
you have the DHS secretary who is addressing the press.
This was not a Q and a period, and she's interrupted.
She's interrupted by someone who is speaking very loudly, and
so her security detail confronts what we obviously now know

(38:20):
to be the senator, and at that point he is
now going to be escorted out. You can't interrupt something
like that that's already in progress without having those consequences.
But the second incident, in my view, happens the moment
as officers are trying to lead him out, he then
turns and walks back towards kind of into those agents.
At that point, from a security detail perspective, we're taking

(38:42):
this person out against their will. We've asked the person,
and again, this is all happening very quickly. But the
moment he then turns into them, they realize this is
not someone who is going to comply.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
They don't know who he is. Greg. First of all,
they don't know who he is.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
No shouts his name. I'm sorry, they don't. You can't
even you can't even make out what he's saying because
he's yelling so hysterically.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Truly is and I've been to a million new Yes,
you have over time, you've been part of it. You
hold the news conference, you allow the person who's the
main speaker right to make their case, and that's what
Christy Noolman was doing. She was updating people and thinks.
And then at the end they generally say, now I'm
ready to take a few questions, or they may say
ahead of time, going to make a statement, but we

(39:24):
aren't going to take any questions. So the media knows
how to deal with this this guy, This was pure theatrics.
It was grandstanding. He is way out of line, and
and and for Newsom and Bass and now Democrats in
Washington shiftless defending this guy.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
You know, because I don't think any reasonable, common sense, hardworking,
every day American will watch that scene, and especially the
video of it, and go, that's an adult, that's a
that's a that's a mature that that's a US senator,
a public servant. They're not going to see that in
that video. They're going to see someone who's acting in
a in a direct changed way, in an unhinged way.

(40:02):
And as the Democrats doubled down, triple down and want
to defend that, it's going to make those defenders look
as silly as heat as the person who behaved that
way looked. It is just unacceptable. And I can tell you,
without without any preference of political party, if you are
a public servant. If you're a leader and you are
holding that press conference and that moment happens to Governor

(40:23):
Newsom to Mayor Bass, that person needs to be removed
from that room. If they're acting that way for a
Democrat leader, for a Republican, the party affiliation is irrelevant here.
You don't act that way. That's it, that's all. You don't.
You don't do it. And I don't know how anyone
could even come up with an excuse to try and

(40:44):
say that what happened there is somehow Trump's fault and
that that senator was a victim. Give me a break.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
Ninety nine senators would not do something like this this
idiot did. I agree?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
I think that I think Fetterman is this is another
one of these examples. He's going to say, are we
kid in our I mean, if this guy's like interested
in winning races?

Speaker 3 (41:03):
You know what's so funny about this? This just here's
another example. This just feeds into the narrative that many
people in this country now have and follow. The Democrats
are Kuco for cocopas they are. They have completely lost
their moorings. They they don't they don't have they don't
know how to deal with a Trump administration. The policies
he's pursuing, they don't have and so wait and they don't.

(41:27):
They don't settle down. They're just getting more erratic. Yeah, crazy, crazy,
all right, more of your calls and comments coming up
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Speaker 1 (41:42):
Senator Alex Padilla acting the way he did. That's that
if you if you're a parent, a grandparent, and you
had a child, a grandchild that behaved this way, you
would just be as they'd be grounded they be again cough, yes,
you would not allow this behavior. This is not polite society.
This isn't the way anybody should act, let alone a
US senator public servant. But this is still going. People

(42:03):
want to debate this, like like somehow this senator has
been mistreated?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
How how are they? How are they? How how can
you even defend his actions? He is so out of line.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
It is so bizarre to me. It is so bizarre
that that's what they're that they're trying to do. And
and it's again folks, the Democrats are the party of
political violence, making no mistake about it. They had no
problem you know, going in after you know, President Trump
going through raiding mar al Lago and like remember the
flat jackets and the assault weapons and the and the
you know, in the helmets and going through Milania's personal

(42:37):
items there. I mean, he's former president and they had
no qualms about that.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
They put people in jail that were from the Trump
administration that other Democrats like my Orchis and Bannon doing
the same thing, not appearing before Congress never saw the
inside of a jail cell for they were happy to
do that. But what about the guys that lunatic that
attacked the Republican members of Congress that were practicing for
the software baseball game.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Big Bernie Sanders fan. Did anybody ever say anything about that?

Speaker 1 (43:03):
How about the assassination attempt on the Supreme Court justice's
life at Kavanaugh Brett Kavanaugh stopping that person from coming.
I haven't heard any of the for people for everyone
to be losing their collective minds on the left, at
least about this senator who no one knew was a
senator when he was detained and even handcuffed because he
was so he was so irrational and erratic. For them

(43:25):
to be so upset with that, with all the things
the left have done, I mean, it's it, there's just
it's anyway. It's selective logic, it's selective outrage. And I'm
seeing it just stream and stream and headline headline. But
I've got to believe that America watches this, if they
have an opportunity to watch the actual press conference and
say that is beyond the realm. That's just not how

(43:47):
people act.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
With what we're seeing in this country. Like you were
talking about the attempted assassinations of the president, Okay, toolwic
Brett Kavanaugh. What's going on there? All of this security
and police Now they understand if anybody comes toward anybody,
they're going to take him down. You think that, yes,
So here you have this man. Nobody really knew him.
I mean I never knew he was a senator from

(44:10):
California tells Padilla shows up at this news conference and
then starts becoming abusive and say I got a question.
I got a question, and starts going toward Christy Nolan.
What is security supposed to do their job? Which they
did their job.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
And I'll tell you what, I think the guy gets
more respect than he deserves because the secretary met with
him afterwards, sat down with them for ten minutes.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
That's amazing with that kind of.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
Conduct that she did that I think. I think that's
again she's lending more respect to the senator than he deserves,
certainly today, And I don't that should be the story,
not that he was somehow mistreated. He wasn't mistreated. He
was He's not a public again. There's just there's just
no version of life where anyone of any station in
life could interrupt the beginning of a press conference like

(44:56):
that and should be allowed to do so or not
be removed from the room when it happens.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Fifty four percent of the American people say they want
ill people in this country illegally deported fifty four percent.
When you say illegals who have committed crime, that number
source to almost eighty percent. So that kind of gives
you a pretty good idea. So do you think that
Democrats are on the wrong side of this issue? This
has become I think a ninety ten issue and they're

(45:24):
on the ten side. Does not make a lot of sense,
doesn't this thing again today just feeds into the narrative
out there that the Democrats have lost their minds.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
It's an interesting time too, because after Jake Tapper and
Alex Thompson go through this like confessional about how they
were misled about Biden and how you know, they have
to do a better job of reporting fairly, then that
riots come and you see that they don't report that fairly.
They're not talking about the violence. It's mostly peaceful as
things are burning. Why are you interrupted? Anyone's just having
fun watching cars burn, as if that's just normal Friday

(45:56):
night fun. And so they fall back into the same practice. Well,
this story with this US senator acting this way, if
the media wants to make him out to be the
victim here, they have fallen right back to the same
media that would not cover Joe Biden, his mental decline,
his all the stuff that they've just said, or that
Tappers at least saying in his book that they were

(46:17):
wrong for having done. They're back to the same, the
same practice.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
All right, we'll get to your phone calls eight eight
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in California, who just made an ass of himself. I
don't know another way to put it, folks, that's what
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Speaker 4 (46:44):
Dale.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
How Why are you welcome to the Rod and Gregg Show.

Speaker 10 (46:47):
Bye, gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (46:48):
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
We're doing well?

Speaker 10 (46:50):
Thanks awesome, Hey Sol. Here's one of the reasons I
think maybe why the Democrats, particularly in California are going
crazy is because the Centrals is going to happen in
five years and a President Trump wants to deport three
thousand a day then, and they've already lost a massive

(47:14):
out migration of people. They're going to stand to lose
some seats and their congressional seats. Plus also in New
York and other places where all these red states are
losing people to blue states.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Jale. That's a great point because they do count as
total population. They're counting these the undocumented or illegal immigrants,
and and and so it helps protect when when the
when the voters are just leaving, there's an exodus out
of those states of New York and of California and
these blue run states, these Democrat states, they've been trying

(47:48):
to they've been trying to buffer that or at least,
you know, keep their population somewhat stable by the being
sanctuary states. You take that away from them, they are
going to lose congressional seats.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
They and there was an article the other day and
they explain this exactly. They may not vote Greg, but
they still have they still have some weight when it
comes to voting in general because of this, the portionment
that takes place. That's right as they count though. So
all right, let's hear from our talkback listeners. This is
a comment coming in. Hey, Rod and Greg, this is

(48:21):
Jeremy and I fifteen.

Speaker 11 (48:22):
I think the reason that they're supporting the senator is
because they're not being fed to real information. The left
leaning articles I thought about this make it sound like
he was at a Q and a press conference and
Christynome just had him dragged out for no reason. They
think that he has been abused because they're not being
pulled the facts. It's malinformation.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Yeah, that's that's how the left is reporting this.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, that's I don't know how they well, I guess
I know how, but it's pretty hard for them to
be able to keep that charade up when there's so
much video evidence of of how I'm hinged he was.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, here's another one of our talk about comments.

Speaker 12 (49:07):
Hey guys, thanks so much for playing this. And Colorado
is the worst hum in baseball.

Speaker 7 (49:13):
I'm just gonna say it.

Speaker 12 (49:15):
But when we're talking about members of Congress who are
acting absolutely ridiculous, what about Representative Maxine Waters?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
She is crazy?

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, she is crazy.

Speaker 9 (49:29):
She is.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
She came storming up to one of those ice facilities
and she wanted to make a big scene, and Ice
aged just shut the door. To shut the door, He's like.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Can't come in. Back to the phones. Let's go to
Paul in Salt Lake City to night Paul. How are
you thanks for joining us to night Paul?

Speaker 8 (49:45):
Great Rod, goodness here your show. I just wonder what
Senator Perez would do if a patron or a citizen
did the same thing he did in one of his
town hall meetings. He would expect security to step in
to save his tush, wouldn't he.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. If a citizen did that at
a news conference or even at a Newsome news conference
or a BASS news conference. What do you think would
happen to them? A very good point.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It would absolutely happen. It is so bizarre that these
members of Congress UH and and centers are showing up
at places unannounced, no planned meeting UH and they're just
they're just trying to force their way physically, force their
way into UH events or buildings. And it's it's not
how it's ever worked. I mean, there's no they have
staff these especially when you get to Congress and sentive.

(50:39):
They don't just run up the buildings and demand to
get inside. They don't go and storm a press conference
on announced and start screaming. I mean, they they have staff.
They have that they they can get any meeting they want,
and they're allowed into any of those buildings. But you
got to call ahead, You got to act like an adult.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
Well, Christy Nooam says she sat down with them after
he did this. I hear his complain. He could have
done that ahead of time. He could have said, hey,
when you're done, could we sit down and have a
brief discussion. Even after his antics, Christyenomes said, let's sit
down and talk. I asked exchange phone numbers. It's unreal.
All right, we'll talk much more about this coming up

(51:17):
our number three of the Rod and Great Show.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
On his way to stay with us, you know, the narrative.
So again, I am just shocked that this story has
any legs, at least legs that would suggest that the
senator was mistreated. Yeah, all you have to do is
watch this press conference, and you know the guy came

(51:40):
in unhinged and in a moment where you don't know
who he is and what's going on. He's removed as
any person should be removed from a press conference of anyone,
without regard to party whatever. It isn't even about that.
It's not a political issue. It's a public safety issue.
You cannot let someone come in and scream and yell
and in a deranged way like that. You don't know,

(52:02):
They didn't they didn't know who he was. He's new
to being a US center. It's not like he's it's
not like Ted. It's not like Mitch McConnell walked into
that place. I mean, he wouldn't have. He'd have a
hard time doing it. But you know, again, it's not
some long standing, well known US senator. This person he
came in and he was just there's just no justifying it.
He should be ashamed of himself. And yet I'm just

(52:23):
watching the news somehow say.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
That that, oh they're grandstanding. I mean Corey Booker, oh,
pug floor the Senate. Are we sick and tired of
this guy? Yet? So what he can stand there for
twenty four hours without going to the bathroom and give
a speech on the floor of the Senate. That's a
hero to the Democrats nowadays.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Yeah, well, I just you know again, I'm in one
of those moments where I think, well, if they just
want to keep making this the big deal, there's enough
video of it that really they don't really have a
leg to stand on. I mean that it's an embarrassing
moment for the senators.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
What it is, Yeah, it really is. So we'll keep
our eye on that a lot. To get to this
hour a little bit later on. A big win for sororities,
remember the the I think it was a case in
what at the University of Wyoming greg where this trans
woman wanted to be a part of a sorority and
the sorority had to let her in as a matter
of fact, the sorority sisters who were objecting to this

(53:18):
were kicked out of the organization for saying, we don't
want a guy in our sorority.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Yeah, well, I think times have changed. I hope that
that's not like recent I hope it's not like right now,
because I would hope that depends I'm swinging back to
common sense.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
So yeah, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 13 (53:36):
You know.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
The interesting thing about all of this, Greg is is
you look at Los Angeles and you know, you talk
to people out there, especially Los Angeles city itself, you know,
they've just been saying, Greg, people have lived there. The
city is just in decline, is in decay. There are
parts of the city that look like a third world country.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah, yeah, the part the number of homelessness has gone
bigger than and like Taylorsville has. I don't know how
many people in size of tailors will, but it's it's
like one hundred thousand or more that are that are homeless,
that are living on those streets in Los Angeles. It's growing.
It doesn't it doesn't stay static. It just keeps growing.
They keep putting more and more money, and that money
doesn't really do anything. People are making people are profiting

(54:21):
from from this, these so called you know, funding of homelessness.
It's not going to anybody. They're warehousing humans. But anyway,
they you look at that, or you look at their
their rail system, or you look at whatever it is
that that a city does to be a vibrant city,
they seem to be failing. Then when you add on
top of that that they're supposed to to host.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
The Olympics, the Olympics, well, world first, World Cup next year.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Yeah, and the Olympics. We have a little experience in
a little old Salt Lake about being the host of
the world and in the Winter Games, and we'll be
doing that again. The amount of work and preparation, it
doesn't happen quickly and it takes a lot of coordination.
I don't see a city in Los Angeles, honestly, I
can't see what in that sea, by way of leadership

(55:08):
or the lack of leadership, that will allow them to
be able to host the State Track Championship, let alone
the Olympics or the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Well, and the thing is, you know, a lot of
people are thinking, you know, we get the Olympics in
twenty eight it will revitalize the city'll bring a lot
of money. Research as to research, Greg has shown that
the Olympics really don't do that much.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
No, I mean, I think Slake City is actually a
outfire because they set aside a fund where they were
able to maintain the venues and keep them, to keep
them working and keep people being able to use them.
It's not like I don't know, if you look at Calgary,
or if you look at Lake Placid, or you go
Sarajevo's even you know, golf is no Sarajevo anymore. So

(55:52):
I just think it's it's it's a hard prospect and
in terms of building the venues going into day to
do it all, and a lot of promises made on
advertising and everything else. I would not be surprised if
as it gets closer this these La Olympics. Unless the
feral government wants to put the whole bill and basically

(56:13):
take it over, I don't know how that city in
that state of California're gonna be able to do it.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Well, you know what happen If Kamala Harris would be
president right now, she would give a Los Angeles whatever
amount of money they wanted. This age the Olympics in
twenty eight.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
Yeah, they would, And if she became president, it'd be
like the People's Republic hosting the Olympics. It would be
a calm. I mean it would this. Think about how
different this country would look right now if she had won.
When you see what I mean we just with Doge
and what we're seeing now in terms of the pushback
on even just getting criminals, dangerous criminals that are here

(56:51):
illegally out, the pushback and the resistance to do that,
we've been in a lot of trouble, probably more trouble
than we even understood. One of our guests I think
earlier in the program, Yeah, we did. We talk about
this or there is so much money, whether it's a
state of California or federally the million, tens of millions
even higher than that, being used to subvert law in

(57:14):
order to counter what is supposed to what the federal
government's supposed to do by way of public safety, you know,
adhering to and enforcing federal laws. You have money from
state taxpayers and federal taxpayers being used to stop the
efforts of this country in terms of it's following the law.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Yeah, there's another Yeah, here's another comment from our talkback
line as to what's going on here.

Speaker 14 (57:38):
I really hope they bring charges to the governor of
California and the mayor and any other politician that's aiding
and abetting betting those illegal immigrants out there, because if
there was any other regular citizen, we would definitely have
charges brought up against US.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
California. This really makes me sick.

Speaker 14 (58:00):
I lived there for over thirty years and I'm glad
I left that state.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Sad.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Yeah, you know it is said, and you're right, Greg.
We get people calling all the time out of the
show who've moved here from California, and the reason is
they just can't take it anymore. No, they're done with
that state.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
You know what's fun if you go down to Washington County.
A lot of times these people move out of liberal
blue states and then they want to get away from
the bad governance, but then they bring their bad politics
with them. But if you get down to Washington County,
it's like it's political refugees. It's conservatives that picked Washington
County to get out. So they're from California or Nevada
or even Oregon or Washington, but they're real conservatives and

(58:40):
they've had it, and it's fun to meet people from
out of state that really feel like political refugees.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Yeah, they're done, they're dood. Good for them. All right,
more coming up. They're Rod on Greg show with you
here on Utah. It's Talk Radio one five to nine knrs.
Very preliminary, haven't been confirmed yet, but maybe some smoke
coming from nuclear facility is in Iran. Is Israel involved
in this, We don't know. Like I said, this is
very sketchy information at this time. We don't want to

(59:06):
go much further than that. But those are some of
the reports that we're getting right now. Greg.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Yeah, according to Axios, Israel's launching preemptive strike against Iran,
with reports of massive explosions taking place heard in Tehran
as well. So there's it looks like airstrikes. It had
been the thought. It had been thought that also air
raids sirens are now sounding in Israel. There was a
thought that there was going to be negotiations between Israel

(59:32):
and Iran through the weekend and when Sunday was supposed
to be kind of the is something other than you know,
host you know, military conflict possible, and that looks like
they're not waiting.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
Well, we'll keep our eye on that as the evening
goes on. Joining us on our Newsmaker line right now
is Joel Kotkin. Joel is a Presidential Fellow in Urban
Futures at Chapman University. Always great to have him on
the show. He's talking about the decline of LA and
what he's seen out there. Joel, how are you welcome
to the Rodding Greg Show. Thanks for joining us tonight, Joel.

Speaker 4 (01:00:05):
Well, I'm doing okay. I wish the city I spent
the majority of my license was doing better.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
Well, that's what I was going to ask you. How
disturbing is it? Joel? And you've been there for a
long time. You've talked about the even the Olympics back
in nineteen eighty four, and what has happened there. We've
got the Olympics coming up in twenty twenty six in
Los Angeles. What are your general overall thoughts on what
is taking place now and what has happened to that
once great city.

Speaker 4 (01:00:32):
Well, the Olympics of twenty twenty eight, by the way, yes,
I'm sure. But in twenty twenty six we're going to
have the World Cup.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
World Cup that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
I mean, let me make a contrast. Nineteen thirty two
LA Olympics was really announcing that LA was here and
the global power, and it was brilliantly done. In nineteen
eighty four, which I covered personally, I'm not old enough
to uncover thirty two. I was astounded how well it worked,

(01:01:06):
and it was really LA at its peak. And I
would think that I would say the LA peaked in
the eighties. Reagan was present, the defense industry was booming,
Hollywood was booming, and we were, you know, we were
absorbing a lot of immigrants. But it seemed to be
working out reasonably well. And since then it's been really

(01:01:30):
not so great. The ninety two riots. I think we
never quite recovered from the ninety two riots, and there
was a rescit during the eight years of Reardon, but
the city has continually gone downhill. It's lost lots of
its manufacturing, Its crime problems have resurfaced, and you just

(01:01:55):
drive there, you just concede that the police is not
doing well. I mean, there are some new apartments that
people can't afford, but there's very little in the way
of new industrial construction. The school system is an embarrassment.
I mean, in many ways La shares a lot with Chicago,

(01:02:19):
even though we have much better weather.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
You know, Joel, I have a question. So in two
thousand and two, when Salt Lake City hosted the Winter Games,
so much preparation when that was announced, there was a
number of years to prepare for that, venues, everything, and
it seemed went off well. We felt as a state
that we celebrated the Winter Olympics together successfully. There was
money set aside and a found a foundation that would

(01:02:44):
keep the venues up to date, keep them maintained. And
so now we enter into the next phase where the
Salt Lake is going to host the Games again, where
we have venues we don't. We're not starting from scratch.
I'm wondering what is the state of Los Angeles having
held the Summer Games in the past, what are the
venues like?

Speaker 11 (01:03:02):
What is what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
What is the job ahead for Los Angeles to get
ready for the Olympics given the chaos and I think
the lack of leadership we're witnessing in real time. What
kind of what kind of mountain do they have to climb?

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
Well from that, you're completely right from an infrastructure point
of view, for summer sports las in great shape. I
mean there are you know, there's Staples has you know
been built, Uh, there's the sofar Arena. We have the capacity,
if you will, to handle this without any major new construction.

(01:03:39):
So that's not going to be the problem. The problem
is going to be on the law and order side.
You know what people forget as they watched the recent
riot is Downtown Only in particular has been having smash
and grab robberies. You've got people stealing copper from the lights.
You have just a tsunami of disorder that was there

(01:04:03):
before the most recent events. How do you keep that
under control?

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
In the case of Paris, which I mentioned in the
article that I did respiked in Paris, there were a
huge deployment of soldiers and police, and obviously the French
government was supportive. I don't know what happens in twenty
twenty eight, if California decides that it's going to continue

(01:04:29):
to fight a civil war against Donald Trump. I think that,
you know, how interested will Trump be in making the
Olympics work? Because the state doesn't have much money the
city in both the city and the state are financial problems.
So although we have many advantages because we have the infrastructure,

(01:04:53):
it's going to be very difficult for this to work,
particularly without the support of the And the other thing
that's really different is in nineteen eighty four, LA was
a major corporate center and there were lots of large companies,
oil companies, banks, who who could aerospace companies, who could

(01:05:18):
support an Olympics. We have almost none of that now.
There's very very little in the way of any real
corporate leadership. So it's going to be very difficult to
even run an Olympics, even with our existing infrastructure. And
then you have this sort of law and order governance

(01:05:40):
issue which has just become horrendous, and we saw that
with the fires recently.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Yeah, yeah, Joe, when did when did you start noticing
it going downhill? I mean it did obviously didn't happen overnight.
But what what do you think changed, What all of
a sudden happened.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Well, I would say that from a historic full point
of view, you can start with I think you could
start with with the decline of the aerospace industry at
the end of.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
The of the of the Cold War.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
This was the big middle class employer in LA and
it's just it disappeared or it certainly shrunk. The second
thing was the ninety two riots. After the ninety two riots,
the whole sort of multi ethnic, multi racial image that
Los Angeles had of itself sort of fell apart because

(01:06:36):
you had, you know, you started with an African American uprising,
if you want to use those terminology. But then we
found that there was a large population of largely immigrant
Latinos who also did looting once they realized that the
police weren't guarding anything. So I would say that's where

(01:06:58):
it started. Then I think there was a bit of
a recovery of the reared. But then we start to get,
you know, all these policies to try to push you know, densification,
moves more and more resources downtown, and then the school
system just went.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
In to complete the coin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
So you know, what you have is, you know, the
people who live in Los Angeles increasingly today are either
wealthy or don't have kids, or are poor or work
for the government. And then there's a strata at the
top that's very, very wealthy and is sort of insulated
from the problems.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
Yeah, that's see what's going on. Joel is always great
chatting with you. Appreciate your insight. And enjoy the rest
of the evening. Thank you, Joel, Okay, thank you on
our Nudesmaker line. That's Joel Cufkin, longtime resident of Los Angeles,
giving his insight as to what's going on, and it
makes a very very good point, Greg. It's been in decline.
I do believe the ninety two riots, Rodney King had

(01:07:59):
a lot to do with it, and unfortunately it's just
gone downhill.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I wasn't aware of how much industry and a huge
corporate presence has left the area. I don't know what
makes up LA anymore than if other than even Hollywood's gone.
I mean, most of that's been burned down.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
All right, more coming up here on the rod On
Greg Show and talk radio wont oh five to nine knrs.
We've got some breaking news tonight. We're going to join
the Fox News channel for just a minute because Israel
has apparently launched air strikes against Iran. Here is Trey
yaninst He's the chief forest correspondent on Fox News right now.
Let's listen in to see what he's having to say

(01:08:34):
about this latest news.

Speaker 13 (01:08:36):
Targeted more than a dozen different sites in Iran. Explosions
were reported around the capital of Tehran, and as we speak,
a state of emergency has been declared across Israel as
the Israelis are bracing for possible Iranian retaliation. I want
to take you through how we learned about these strikes
taking place. At two sixteen am local time, US Ambassador

(01:08:59):
to Israel, Well Mike Huckabee, tweeted.

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
Out that there was something going on.

Speaker 13 (01:09:04):
He says, at our embassy in Jerusalem and closely following
the situation, we will remain here all night pray for
the peace of Jerusalem. Forty five minutes later, sirens started
to sound across central Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
We could hear them here in Tel Aviv.

Speaker 13 (01:09:19):
And then moments later a text alert from Israel's Home
Front Command warning people to be prepared for special instructions,
at which point a statement was sent out by Israel's
Defense Minister Israel Katz, declaring that state of emergency across
the country. We have seen Iranian retaliation following Israeli strikes
just last year, and it could involve a series of

(01:09:41):
different things, including ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, and drones.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
So there's an update as to what's going on in
Israel in the Middle East right now. As Drey yingks
was just reporting Israel has lunched air strikes against Iran.
Israel is now being told to brace for retaliation from Iran.
We'll keep our eye on that as this story continues
to you develop right here on Utah's Talk Radio one
oh five nine kN rst all right, the Department of Education,

(01:10:06):
the offense of civil Rights has affirmed what every sorority
woman in America knows the first time she walked into
her chapter. A sorority is for.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Women who knew, who knew, bring news who knew well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:20):
Joining us on our newsmaker line to talk more about
this is Leslie Davis. Leslie is President CEO of the
Mississippi Advacy Advocacy Group, vice chair of the Mississippi Republican Party. Leslie,
how are you? Thanks for joining us tonight.

Speaker 9 (01:10:35):
I'm great, Thanks for having me and it is great
to be with y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:10:40):
Leslie, talk about this victory for sororities. Exactly what has
happened and why are you calling it a victory?

Speaker 9 (01:10:49):
Well, not only sorority women, but it's a victory for
all women. Recognition of and uh the protectionally women's civil rights.
It's not just authority issue. It's a women's rights issue,
it's a truth issue, it's a biology issue, a tied

(01:11:10):
on nine issue, and it's about whether women still have
any spaces left that are truly their own or have
men taking them over.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
So Leslie, let me ask you a question, was does
this change things on campuses today? Was the decision to
allow men into sororities on hold? Was there a pause
and injunction and until a decision came out? Or was
were men in sororities and now they're not? What changes
in our higher education landscape with this decision?

Speaker 9 (01:11:46):
I could spend like five more segments responding to all
of those questions, because I've done a deep dive into
this along with a group of soorty women across the country.
I'm a delta gammer from Missispi State University, but I
am working with women in all sororities across this country.
And we have sat by, at first silently going what

(01:12:09):
is happening to our A sororities are being overtaken by
this wope mind virus that has over you, overtaken our
corporations and so many other parts of our culture institutions.
But no more, we started fighting back, and we started
writing off as, and we started gathering women who just

(01:12:30):
simply say, we don't want women in our sorities, I
mean men in our sorties. We want to return what
they were always meant to be networking, Uh, sisterhoods that
are for women only. Now your next question, you have

(01:12:50):
like four questions and now trying to answer, you ask
what does this mean on college campuses. Well, that's a
great question. The Department of Education's announcement really did four things,
but essentially the main thing that it did was it

(01:13:14):
affirmed common sense. Is said that sorority is for women only,
something that every story of woman knew, as you said
that first steps into a chapter what every soorty a
century ago, new sorties are for women. But what the
DEE has done is they have said authority that it

(01:13:37):
meants male students is no longer authority by definition and
thus loses its title exemption. So what that means is
Title nine has a carve out for single sex organizations,
which means sororities and fraternities can still have a legal
right to exist as women only in menually spaces, and

(01:13:59):
that's not considered sex based discrimination under the nineteen sixty
four Civil Rights Act. But if sororities start allowing men
to identify as women into the sororities, they fall for
that protection, and then the colleges and universities are now unnotice.

(01:14:21):
You support a sorority that it meants men, you're going
to lose that legal exception for single sex organizations, and
you're going to put your Title nine federal funding dollars
at risk.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
How to get their I'll get their attention, Leslie, that's
for sure, Leslie. Thank you very much for joining us
tonight at Victory for Women and Sororities. We appreciate your working,
your time. Thank you, Leslie. Absolutely all right on our
newsmaker line. That is Leslie Davis. She is the president's
CEO of the Mississippi Advocacy Group. Right here on the

(01:15:00):
Rod and Greg Show, we've got a lot of breaking news.
We're going to take a break, come back with you.
We've got some demonstrations forming in Salt Lake City in
the Middle East. Israel has launched air strikes against Iran.
We'll get you caught up on all that news coming
up on The Rod and Greg Show. In Utah's Talk
Radio one O five to nine KNRS, Fox News and
other news outlets now reporting that Israel has launched air

(01:15:21):
strikes against Iran. The details very sketchy at this point.
This is just breaking news within what greg the last
twenty twenty five minutes. Israel is warning it's countrymen to
stay inside and to be ready. The sirens have sounded
just for Israel to be prepared for retaliation from Iran,

(01:15:43):
which is expected. The President apparently has called an emergency
cabinet meeting right now to try and assess what the
situation is on. So that's at the national level. And
here in Utah, we have demonstrations around Washington Square, that
is the area surrounding the city County building where we
do have protesters out against what Donald Trump is trying

(01:16:03):
to do when it comes to illegal immigrants in this country,
people who are here illegally. There are now demonstrations outside
of city Hall in downtown Salt Lake City.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
We're getting an early start.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I thought this was supposed to start, Yeah, I thought
Saturday now, and.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
They're already beginning to accumulate, so I'm sure it's going
to be quite a time. We did we did find
out that from data Republican Jenica pounds that that the
although the goal is the same to destroy the foundational
institutions of this country, they come from different perspectives. The
LA riots funded primarily from communist interests and this one

(01:16:40):
from the globalists interests. And so you'll see maybe more
American flags at these protests. Maybe some some are hoping
it's it's not it's not as violent, because they may
be trying to strategically win over hearts and minds with
their protests versus what we saw happened roll out in
LA and Chicago and Seattle and in New York. So

(01:17:01):
we'll see what happens. But I just can't imagine anything
that starts out on Thursday that's supposed to start Saturday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Is gonna early jump.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
We'll just see. I have it from good sources, folks,
in my inside sources, that this state is absolutely ready
to quell violence if it were to emerge as soon
as humanly possible, and they have made the preparations to
be able to address that. And Brian Read, who is
the chief of police of Salt Lake City now, came

(01:17:33):
from the state's Department of Public Safety. He was the
number two guy there when I was there. He is
a very smart, very effective law enforcement officer. He knows
and he will be coordinating with the State of Utah
very closely. So my hope is that you would see
any kind of violence if it does break out addressed immediately,
and if it is, then I think it's very difficult
for those riots to really spread like wildfire if you're

(01:17:56):
confronting them right away.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
I think I'm with you, Greg. If anything happens, one
brick thrown I don't know, one water bottle throwned at
a police officer, you go find it is and you
haul their butt into jail.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Let me tell you something. Five years, five years later,
Aaron men and Hall Merriman in Hall has a very
different message now than she had five years ago. Last year,
five years ago, she was very tolerant. She was telling
her police, she was standing them down, letting people commit violence.
She was on the side of the of the protesters, saying,
if law enforcement has harmed you, you let us know.

(01:18:30):
She has now put out a statement that while she
embraces the freedom of speech and the protest, violence in
any way, shape or form will not be tolerated. I
think that's some good influence from her Chief of Police
and just good leadership to address as you see a
big protest starting to brew.

Speaker 3 (01:18:49):
Yeah, well, what we're seeing right now, and we're watching
this on our news partner KUTV and their website, their
live feed right now. A lot of people around Washington
Square right now, a lot of signs. There are Mexican flags.
There are also an American flag.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
They got to get those in there. They can't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Mexic can't. Bad luck, bad luck not in this state.
And of course there are signs up about ice, about immigration,
how it built this country, how we should protect people
who are here illegally. I mean, the signs are there,
the talking points are there, Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Are they handwritten signs? Are they well printed?

Speaker 3 (01:19:21):
The professional pretty well done?

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:19:23):
Yeah, these are not cheap hand signs.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
No, no, I think, But I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Why did they jump ahead? I mean, we're waiting for
this tap it on Saturday. They couldn't wait.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
You know, this is like you know you ever see
in the college you know, college football, if you start
the tailgating too early and the game is too late.
So let's say you start tailgating in the morning and
the game is until an evening kickoff, Nothing good's coming
by the time you get to kick off, everybody's kind
of sloshed and it just gets more violent. If you're
starting your protest on Thursday night for a Saturday event.

(01:19:53):
I don't think it's a it's a great recipe, but
who am I Yeah, I don't know, but I do know.
I do know that the state is not messing around
on this, and the celt Lake City seems to be
of the same mind that they're going to be trying
to prevent violence every way they can.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Oh hope, So all right, we'll keep on mind.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Oh by the way, folks, we have the Stanley Cup
game on. They announced that Taylor Swift was going to
be at the games. There, mister Swift, his eyes have
been glued to this. He's like, oh, there she is there.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
She is.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
So bad, You're so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
A lot going on in the world, So stay with us,
head up, shoulders back. May God bless you and your
family and this great country of ours. Thanks for joining us.
We're back tomorrow. We thank Rod and Greg. It is Friday.
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