The Travel Show: Delta Airlines Adds Second Non-Stop to Honolulu

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome once again to the Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks,
that get Away Guru, and we have a star student
program today. The studio is full and we've got exciting things.
We're headed to Hawaii. Highlights of Carta Haina, Columbian Costa
Rica will take a waltz down the Airline Hall of Shame.
Carlos Feeda are Argentinian gaucho is fresh back, still dripping

(00:35):
wet from the Galapagos Islands. We're gonna be talking about
a tour that I'll be hosting to England, Scotland and Wales.
It's also time to be thinking about a Christmas gift
for me. And Dan Hode has a brand new book
out and Dan'll be in studio today and talk about that.
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(00:57):
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lovely and talent and Carlos Feeda, Larry luc the Argentinian Gaucho,
Wendy Frakia, who is the lovely and talented, the group

(01:20):
department manager at Morris Columbus Travel and everybody's best friend.
Dan hone you. It's good to have you back. We're
so excited. Dan will be giving us an update on
what's going on in the Middle East and Holy Land tours.
You know, it's it's some real excitement going on in
the Middle Eies, particularly yesterday with love letters sent from

(01:43):
Israel to Iran. And we'll see how that plays out.
Dan's got a new book out that I have been
I've done abound this book for several years. It's the
volume one of an eight volume series or is at
six volumes eight volumes anyway, all that and more, But
we have breaking new os guys. By the way, Guy Wendy,

(02:03):
I'm a coach. Guys is gender neutral, You're a guy.
Carlos is a guy. My wife is a guy. I
gotta be careful saying that.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Just one of the guys. I'm all about it.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah. Anyway, breaking news from Delta Airlines. They have you know,
currently we have two airlines flying NonStop from Salt Lake City,
and I know we have nineteen stations on our syndication Florida, Texas, Utah, Nevada, Idaho,
Wyoming and different stations. But I can't talk about fifty

(02:37):
different cities, so we'll talk about we're in Salt Lake City.
There's two airlines that fly NonStop Salt Lake to Honolulu,
which is Hawaiian Airlines and Delta Airlines. It is so
nice to avoid lax at all costs. Of course, Delta
also flies NonStop to Maui. Well, Delta has added a

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second Salt Lake Honolulu non stop. Now this one will
be seasonal. The one we have now is year round,
but a second November twenty second to April thirteenth. Well,
leave in the afternoon, arrive obviously the same day, and
then an red eye back. I mean, Wendy, this is

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great news for Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, it's awesome. And this is like the prime season.
Like you say it's seasonal, this is well watching season.
This is when people love to go to get out
of the cold. And the fact that it's an extra
flight out of Salt Lake City. Delta flies NonStop from
so many US cities. This makes it easier for them
as well, even if they're not based out of Salt Lake.
A single connection through Salt Lake to get all the

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way it is great stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Now I got to ask you a personal question. You said,
whale watching, and you were looking at me getting off
a cruise. I went on as a passenger, I came
off as cargo. A lot of fun there. I love that. Well,
you know Hawaii. What is it about Hawaii, in fact,
all of Polynesia, the South Seas, the South Pacific that

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captivates people so much? What is it that draws us?

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You know?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
I've said before there are some destinations I call one
and done, glad I went. No need to go back,
like Cleveland or Baltimore, other places. I get giddy just
thinking about going back to Alaska is one of them.
Alaska Crews, Hawaii, Thailand of course my second home anywhere

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in the South Seas. I have spent so much of
my life in the South Pacific. Just great, great experience
at learning things. But Wendy, what is it's about the
South Seas and specifically Hawaii that captivates us?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know that captivates us? I was going the minute
you said that.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
I thought about the sunrise and sunsets over the beach
and just being there at that magical But then I
went practical and thought how simple it is for people
in Hawaii. You speak the language, use this in currency.
It's American. You don't need a passport. It's so simple
for us to go there.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
It really is. You know, there's a drawing power. And
I think that I've read this quote before from Robert
Lewis Stevens. He wrote it July twenty eighth, eighteen eighty eight,
when Carlos was a young man on You know, he's
from Scotland, but he spent the last years of his
life in the South Seas. He loved the Marquesas Islands.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
He is.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Buried in Samoa. I've been to his grave there on
the island of Upolu. Anyway, this is how he described
what I would say applies to Hawaii and the South Seas. Quote.
Few men who come to the islands leave them. They
grow gray where they alighted. The palm shades and trade

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winds fan them till they die, perhaps cherishing to the last.
The fancy of a visit home, which is rarely made,
more rarely enjoyed, and yet more rarely repeated. No part
of the world exerts the same attractive power upon the visitor.

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With some sense of its seduction. The first experience can
never be repeated. The first love the first sunrise, the
first south Sea island are memories apart and touched a
virginity of sense close quote and what it is there

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seems to be an outreach. Now, as I said, I've
spent a lot of time in the South Sea Islands.
I think of Samoa, which is today the most traditional
of all the Polynesian islands. And I mentioned this many
months ago that in Samoa, and this will explain the attraction.

(07:04):
There are two words. One of them and as you know,
how Dan, it's like, what is it thirteen or sixteen
languages somewhere? What is it six sixteen languages? Yeah, thank you,
much like Carlos. That's right, of course, Carlos with his Spinoli.

(07:27):
I you know, I can I can get by in Tongan.
I'm not fluent, but I can be conversational. And there
are words for which there's no English equivalent, you know.
And in Samoa there's two words for spirit. One is anganga,
which is has a religious connotation holy spirit, spirit of

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the Lord, holy ghost. That it's used always anganga in
a religious context. But then there's another word for which
there's no English tslation, called manna. It'd be spelled mana
but pronounced manna, And that is how do I describe it?
A drawing power. It's something that's like a long tentacle

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from the islands reaching out to the Samoans wherever they
are in the world. They feel a connection. In Hawaii,
we call it the Aloha spirit. You feel that, don't you, Wendy, Yeah,
you feel this drawing. There's just a sense of seduction
when you're there in Hawaii, with the feelings the mana,

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all the mana in the trees and in the ocean,
and in the coconuts, in the in the beaches, in
the mountains. Everything about the South Sea Islands is a
drawing power.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
That is exactly what Paul Gogin felt about that when
he visited the island he finally decided to stay there.
I'm paint All of his paintings always show this peaceful feeling.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Even in a painting, you can find.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
It, really does, you know.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
It's interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
The word aloha has its origin in the Hawaiian language.
It's comprised of two Hawaiian words AlOH, which means front
or face, and ha, meaning breath. When combined alo ha,
these words invoc a sense of sharing the same breath

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or life essence, the breath of life. Ancient Hawaiians viewed
greeting someone face to face and breathing each other's essence.
I hope they had a mint as a sacred act.
In fact, in New Zealand. And you know I've been
in New Zealand. I know twenty five times. We have

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unofficially adopted Maori son down there. That's another whole story.

Speaker 6 (09:48):
And went to Jordan with me last year. Yes, he did,
he and we correspondence.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Dean Grace did.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
The hakka in some of the amphitheaters.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
I'll have to tell you the story. My unadopted, my
unofficial adopted son. He calls me Dad. I introduced him
as my as my Maori son. But the hungy h
o n g I is how you greet and you'll
come up, grab each other around the biceps or arms
or shoulders. You'll touch your forehead, touch noses, and then

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it's you in here. You you share the breath of
life with them. And I always tell people you'll be
greeted by the Maoris this way, so be prepared, don't
be shocked. But that's how we greet each other. When
Dean comes up here at the Airport. Here at Salt Lake,
we'll touch fourheads, touch noses, and breathe the breath of

(10:42):
life when we come back Delta Vacations to celebrate the
new Hawaii service has got a special discount. Stay tuned,
Welcome back to the Travel Show and to Carlos Bienvenetos,
a travel show. How am I doing?

Speaker 6 (11:03):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Brewing in espe Okay, they're listening to the Travel Show.
I'm Larry Gelwicks to get Away Guru, and I'm actually
high on my diet coke. It's a true You know,
my my morning routine is on Saturdays, I go to
a local McDonald's. I have an egg McMuffin and a

(11:26):
double dose free refill of diet coke. My daughter Emily
said she She says, Dad, I can tell the days
when you on the show when you don't have your
diet coke. You know, the caffeine fix. She says, what's that?
How do you know that? And Emily said, well, when
you've had your caffeine fix your diet coke at McDonald's

(11:47):
right before the show. This is her words, you're more
quote peppy, So Dan am I peppy today?

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I jump it out of him. You know, I've never
had a red bull. I've never had the so called
energy drink. And that's a misnoment, not really an energy drink.
It's caffeine cardiac overload, that's.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
What it is.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I think you're still on your travel high.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
Oh we had getting listen, we had the most fantastic
group of people. It was a sixteen day Los Angeles
to Tampa through the canal. We're going to be talking
about that, and I certainly invite any of those who
were with us to call in triple eight five seven
oh eight oh one. Oh that's eight eight eight five

(12:31):
seventy eighty ten to talk about our trip or anything
related to travel, or if your marriage needs some counseling.
Doctor Larry does that.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Also.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Hey, let's go to the phone lines, and our friend
Brad from Bountiful is on the line. Brad, welcome to
the travel show.

Speaker 7 (12:50):
Point us, notiz point us, the deals or something like that.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Brad, I'm sorry, I don't speak Italian. Hey, now, Brad,
welcome to the travels. How can we help you or
or ruin your day?

Speaker 7 (13:07):
Well let's try both, but we'll start with the helping
part first. All right, I want to say thanks, Carlos.
We had a great time. I think everybody else had
a great time down.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Now Carlos just returned, and Brad, I'm guessing you were
with that. That was Ecuador and Galapago. Now very succinctly, Brad,
tell me one highlight of the trip, especially traveling with Carlos.
Just one highlight in one or two sentences.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
One highlight. Carlos loves ice cream.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, he loves chalcol and vanilla and his favorite is
Cooy flavored. I'll let Carlos, we'll explain that, ladyship Brad,
how can we help you?

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Opisoe grossa side. We had a wonderful time, but looking
forward to the Spice tour with you?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh oh yes, that's are you on the pre cruise
Dubai option with me?

Speaker 7 (14:15):
Tree and Post Oh, we're gonna do Singapore afterwards and Dubai.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
We'll spend a couple of days in Dubai. This is
the most exciting cruise, Brad. In short, it's Dubai, the
Arabian Peninsula, and I'm not worried about Gaza. Were one thousand,
six hundred and sixty three miles from Gaza, you know,
and Dan home the Middle East expert, Dubai is considered

(14:40):
wonderfully safe.

Speaker 7 (14:43):
Yeah it is.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, I was just there in Well, of course you
were very in April.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I loved it. It's a great place. It is.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
It is absolutely wonderful. So this cruise for our other
listeners is Dubai, the Arabian Peninsula, the Indian Ocean, the
Bay of Bengal, three days and we go to India.
High because you have to stay home and work and
sell your book. But so it's Dubai, the Arabian Peninsula, India, Thailand,

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Malaysia and Singapore. Great stuff, a lot of fun. What
can we help you with, Brad.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
Well, we were wondering, first off, what should we do
to prepare for tips for the you know, when we're
on land and with the group, about what amount of
tips and what would you recommend per experience per day
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
So we come with enough, I understand, and they'll all
accept US dollars. Now, one thing about US dollars, the
greenbacks overseas and Wendy, you're very familiar with this. They
don't have to be brand new, but they do have
to be in good condition, not praying, not torn, nothing
written not even one. You know, some people like to

(15:59):
put their initials or a stamped to see if they
ever get yeah, it can't be. And so we'll certainly
cover this in our information meeting on the ship. However, Brad,
I would tell you typically in the areas we're going,
I tend to be just assuming the guide is very

(16:21):
very good for a half day tour, and Wendy you
correct me if I'm wrong. Generally for a half day tour,
you know, five six bucks a person for a half day.
For a full day, I usually double that. Now in
India they're going to be overnighting, and so you may
want to add a little bit more. I know in
Thailand you'll want to.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
We have it.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
We're on a boat. We're on speedboats actually going to
Pongyang Bay, and so you know, ten bucks or something
like that. You know, every person per person, I tend
to be yeah, I tend to be generous. You know,
what's a couple of bucks, it's a diet coke and pep.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, be as generous as you're able to, yes, And
some people are in better situations than others. And if
you have the cash and you can part with it,
and you want to gift it. I think that's wonderful
if you don't have as much cash. I think any
offering you can give is a gift.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
But it's also calling the economy of the country, because
in some countries dollar is a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
In some countries Europe, right, it's a very different tip.
We give more, of course it is.

Speaker 4 (17:34):
So.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
I think if if you were to do that, Brad, say,
you know, in Dubai we have two full days of touring,
you know, I'd give them us like that in India
twenty bucks ahead.

Speaker 3 (17:51):
What do you think, Wendy, I think that's a really
good a good structure, a good plan.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Well, Brad will look forward to having you on the
ship there. We leave a week from tomorrow from Dubai.
Are you on the flight over Paris? Yep, we'll be
on the same We'll be on the same airport.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Well, I love the Paris airport. If I'm going to
Paris to change planes, it's not my favorite. I really
love Amstrong. I mean with that, we're coming up to
a break. Brad.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
Appreciate it. All the best to you and Carla. Hey
when we come back, we're walking down the Airline Hall
of Shame. You're listening to the travel show sponsored by

(18:48):
Morris Columbus Travel the travel experts. Check out the website
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a call. You may have the direct line of your
favorite travel advisor. I think Carlos, you're eight oh one
four eight three fifty two twelve?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Is correcto correcto? Mundo?

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Anyway, always call them the direct line. But if you
don't have your own travel advisor's direct line, you can
call one eight hundred triple nine forty six forty six.
One eight hundred triple nine forty six forty six. And uh,
you know, Morris Columbus Travel has so many wonderful escorted

(19:37):
tours and the name of the company is Morris Columbus Travel,
but the brand name for our escorted tours, which I
just finished with eighty five people on a Panama Canal
cruise is Morris Murdoch Escorted Tours. And I'd love for
you to go to the website and check out all
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(19:59):
to Morris Columbus dot com to scroll down. I think
it's about the third entry on the homepage, Wendy, and
click on that, and then click on If it's a cruise,
click on cruise uh. If it's a land tour, click
on the geographic destination could be Europe, could be Asia, Africa,
South America, or Holy Land, wherever. And check out all

(20:23):
of the group tours. And I got to tell you, Wendy,
with the exception of one you have picked outstanding tour guides,
there's one that's kind of doesn't.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
It you Dan or Larry It's me?

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I mean, what is this one of my schizophrenic you
Dan or Larry Well?

Speaker 2 (20:43):
I didn't really want to put Carlos in that guy.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
No, Carlos and Dan are experts. Tim is an experts, Joel,
all of these.

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Guys former drip under pressure.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's right, But I am I'm a big question mark.
Just talk to the people who went with me, Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Well, I might have to be right in that category
with Well.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I told him. I actually told him, I said, you
listen to my radio show. You know what you're getting.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
There's no surprise.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Hey. Earlier in the show and segment, when we talked
about Hawaii, Alanga Mana and this draw It's like a
long tentacle that draws us back. Aloha Nuiloa Hawaii.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
Oi.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
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Speaker 4 (21:35):
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Speaker 1 (21:35):
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Speaker 1 (23:30):
Let's take a romantic walk down the airline Hall of shame.
This is unbelievable stuff. Now, you know, I think my
favorite airline domestically is Delta Airlines. Ed Bastian is a
great CEO. You know, they're employees as a group, some

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eighty thousand of them worldwide. Something like that. I think
are friendlier the flight attendants or friendlier, but every now
and then you run into a horse's rear end. So
it happened to Catherine Banks just a week ago, a
Marine Corps veteran. She was on a flight departing out
of San Francisco International SFO on Delta Airlines. She was

(24:16):
asked to get off the plane but wasn't wasn't told why.
A flight attendant said, would you please come with me?
And once they were off the plane, the flight attendant
said that her T shirt that she was wearing was
threatening and offensive. Let me tell you what the T
shirt said, end veteran suicide. That's what it said, and which,

(24:41):
by the way, is a huge problem PTSD and the
I mean, we have a major crisis with veterans with
suicide and other health mental health issues. And here's the problem,
uh this, Catherine Banks, were are you kidding me? I'm

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quoting her. I'm a Marine Corps veteran. I'm going to
see my Marine sister I've been in the Marine Corps
for twenty two years and worked for the Air Force
for fifteen years. I'm going to visit her. The flight
attendant said, quote, I don't care about your service. I
don't care about your sister's service. The only way you're
getting back on the plane is if you take it

(25:23):
off right now.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
Banks.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Well, this is part of the story. So she's in
the jetway. She was not wearing a bra, which a
lot of women don't. Okay, she was forced right there
to take her shirt off in the jetway and reverse it.
She had paid extra for, you know, like comfort, plus
they gave that seat to somebody else and then put

(25:50):
her in the back in the the best I know,
she didn't get a reason.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
I hope this flight attendant is so severely penalized. It
has been the worst black eye for Delta for what
they do for the military and the veterans.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
This flight attendance all.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Of shame on a very very good airline. Delta's response
to the San Francisco Chronicle was quote, Delta is seeking
to make contact with the customer directly to hear more
so we can begin to look into what occurred. What
a bunch of DS. This is just awful. We need

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to honor and respect our veterans. I don't find that
T shirt offensive suicide. Well, they're not the only ones.
Let's move on now to United Airlines. Oh, this is
a great one. A mother and her sixteen month old
son were kicked off a plane. They were prevented from flying.

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They didn't even get on the plane. Are you are
you sitting down with your seat belts on? Because she
mis gendered a flight attendant before boarding. Jenna Longario of
Texas explained she was trying to board a fly again
in San Francisco, my hometown. You know, they're all crazy.

(27:15):
They're including myself. They're crazy. Anyway, she said, I'm quoting her.
I was speaking to one of the flight attendants and
I got their pronouns wrong, and the flight attendant didn't
like it. Jenna apologized, saying, quote, I'm sorry. I'm not
very well versed in pro down pronouns. She was holding

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her son and the boy started acting up. He's come on,
he's sixteen months old. He started crying. She had a
car seat on her back to put the child in,
and the United staff accused her quote of a hate
crime for Miss Gendering didn't use her this or that,

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and she was kicked off the plane.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Oh, the flight attendants are some you know, there's sometimes
where they make really good judgment calls.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
And most of them are most of them.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Are absolutely amazing. But that is absolute miss misuse of power.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
Let's move on to Alaska Airlines. By the way, I
really like Alaska Airlines. A. I don't know if I
shouldn't even say this one. I'm just going to read
the report, all right. A lead aircraft maintenance technician, the
lead repair man, was fired for failing drug tests. Well,

(28:45):
the employee said, he did, I don't know how this got.
These drugs got in my system. Okay, sounds like my
fourteen year old son, but not drugs. He didn't do drugs,
but he says, I don't know how that happened anyway.
So Alaska, in their policy, you fail a drug this
is the lead mechanic. You fail a drug test and

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you're fired. Well, he said, maybe I accidentally consumed it
and I didn't know the You. The mechanics union disputed it,
and in their agreement it goes to an arbitration panel.
The arbitration board agreed, Well, he maybe accidentally did it
and didn't know it, and a federal judge found that

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he had to have his job back.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
What type of drugs were they?

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Marijuana? Okay, let's let's we have we've left out American Airlines.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
You're not going to know that this.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Is a good one. This is a good one.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Let me just read the headline. American Airlines has a
bold new move to stop gate lice. Oh good, this
is now. Gate lice is what americanmployees call people who
crowd around the check in desk aboard the flight. You know,
there's a mob there. It looks like a hornet's nest.

(30:10):
And you know, and many of them they get in
line and they you know, they're in zone five and
they go in zone two.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
Right. You know.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
You know what bugs me the most when they say
the first boarding group say on Delta is those who
need a little time and assistance. I'm all for that, Dan.
It's like Grandma, senior citizens like Carlos side wheelchair. I mean,
there are people who are just moving a little slow.
I'm all for that, but I'm being very judgmental. I

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see people who look perfectly healthy. They usually have three
carry ons or big shopping bags. What do they want?
They want the overhead space. They don't want to go
in zone five with their side, so they get on first.
Then comes active military and Diamond medallion first clubs. So
the gate lis American Airlines is piloting a system to

(31:05):
flag people who attempt to board there before their group
is called electronically. You know, when you scan it, it'll
beep or something, experts say in Experts in human behaviors
say travelers who mass at the gate ahead of their
turn do so out of a tendency to conform in competition.

(31:26):
The airlines people call them gate lies. More when we
come back the addos a travel show. You saw Larry
Gelwick's and get Away Guru. Oh hey, Komas d espanyol
get away Guru, I don't know, get away Guru. No,

(31:52):
let's say you're so unique that I don't know Licio Okay, okay,
we're good to go.

Speaker 8 (32:00):
And uh Carlos, Carlos tuo oblamas espanol oentes glace.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
What did you say?

Speaker 1 (32:13):
I said? I said in in you know exactly what
I said. I said. I I said, you and I
speak Spanish. But are these our guests and listeners don't,
so please speak in English. So Carlos, Carlos, I'd like
you to give uh a brief. You just got back

(32:34):
from one of my favorite areas of the world, Ecuador.
I love Ecuador. It's that you know in Quito, Oh
my gosh, what an iconic city, and Galapagos. If you
just give us a report, then we want to talk
about some of the highlights, and for our listening audience,
I'll translate.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Okay, let's go ahead with this.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Okay, But he just said, is okay, let's go ahead
with this.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Your war.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
You know what's fun? By the way, Carlos and I'm
getting the best of him today, but he gets the
best of me. This is uh the ketto muccho. We
do this yo tam vien. We do this with with
permission and nothing but love. We've been the best of
friends for going on forty years. But what's really fun
is when I see Carlos at the start of next week.

(33:23):
I think his whole church congregation listens to the show
and they talk about our kidbetzing back and forth, don't they, Carlos.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
They do that's a common thing.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Every Sunday, you know, somebody comes why did you say
this to Larry so well?

Speaker 1 (33:39):
Did you worry? Did you hear what he said to me? Okay,
Galapo goes and Ecuador is.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
A unique experience, you know, even going to you know,
the different island, because different island have different things to see,
you know. The people love to see the burst and
everything that is endemic nowhere else in the world. You
can see the animals that they have there. But another
thing is what the people experience. For example, my good

(34:08):
friend that just came back with me said, my highlight,
one of my highlights was when I gave a twenty
dollars bill to a poor man that was walking in
the street without a leg. And this man said, what
do you think that he said? He says something amazing,
you know, meaning that he is with him the spirit

(34:33):
of this man, you know, of Brad.

Speaker 4 (34:36):
It was, it was Brad.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
He said, yes, that was a highlight, you know, in
the treet So don't expect that what you will see
is maybe a highlight. You have to see the individual,
the individual, the people in the streets. We took a
whole hour of walking around the street.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
That was amazing.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Now, Wendy, I think that's one of the great things
about more Trs Columbus tours and Dan. I've been with
you on tours that Morris Columbus and Dan holy Land,
Middle East. It's not just seeing things, it's delving in.
It's the culture, the people, the dining interaction.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
Yeah, when we go on these strips together, you know
there's a spiritual atmosphere to it, regardless of religion that
when you go there and you step in these sites
and locations, there's something that touches you inside. And it's
partly even the people of the land. I can't wait
till Sunday I get to Ecuador.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
But you know, this is exactly what Brad experience. You know,
something personal. He approached this man in rugs, dress in
drugs and gave him twenty dollars and the man expressed
their gratitude. So this is a speeditrug experience. You know,
it's not just a sightseeing tour.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
It really is. You mentioned the uniqueness of the Galapagos.
Of course that's where Charles Darwin did his family history
and genealogy and found out that he really is a
monkey's uncle. But I mean his his theory on evolution
was really developed in the Galapagos islands. And what's unique

(36:25):
about that, because you and I've been there together is
the animals have never learned to fear man about. The
only times they will bark at you is if you
see a sea lion with a pup and you get
too close. I mean, that's that's the mother instinct coming in.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's a wonderful tour, Wendy. We've got to put together.
I don't think we have another Galapagos on the books,
but we've got.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
To put one together. There will be for next year.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
We've got to do that now. Turning quickly to South America,
if which I believe is the undiscovered continent for most travelers.
Most people will go to Europe first. I understand that.
I get that, but don't miss South America very quickly, Carlos,
what are some of the key highlights sites? Well, in

(37:12):
South all of South America, there.

Speaker 5 (37:14):
Are many, you know, Couscan, Machupico, in Peru of course,
Galapoor and then in Chile you have the National Parks Atakana,
which is a.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Desert, and then I love Puertomont.

Speaker 5 (37:24):
And Portomont which is the lake region.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
What about Argentina.

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Argentina, Oh, it falls I have my jacket Patagonia. You
got the wrong.

Speaker 5 (37:35):
What about Brazil, Brazil real de But the the food,
the fruit in Brazil perhaps highlight.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
One of my favorite dishes is more and the place
to go is Savador de Bahilla. Hey, well listen, uh,
we have got three experts here, Wendy on Groups, Carlos
with South America, Dan on the Holy Land and me
I'm just a pretty face.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
When we come back in our number two, we're going
to be talking about a New Africa tour Brand New,
and a Scotland, Wales and England tour here on the
Travel Show. Welcome to our number two of the Travel Show.
I'm Larry Gelwicks, that Getaway Guru, joined in studio by

(38:25):
Wendy Frakia, Group department manager at Morris Columbus Travel. Carlos Veeda,
the Argentinian gaucho himself rushed from Ecuador and the Galapagos,
hanging out with the Iguanas and penguins.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
And penguins, I love the Galapagos.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
And Dan hone fresh f charloam fresh from the Middle East.
Dan will be giving us an update in this hour
on what's going on in the Middle East. When we
can expect Holy Land tours to resume. Of course, Israel
has sent their response to Iran yesterday, and we'll talk
a little bit about that. Of course, Dan has a

(39:05):
new book that I have a copy of that I'm
just overwhelmed at all that. More, we invite you to
call the show Triple eight five seven eight one to
h Triple eight five seventy eighty ten. Your questions, comments, suggestions,
your experiences. You know, you really are the best part
of the show. Now, Wendy, We're in a unique year

(39:30):
with an election year, but a presidential everything, and I
think everybody agrees, whether you're right or left, is calling this,
if not the most consequential, certainly one of the most
consequential presidential elections in history. And as a travel show,
we don't take a political position, but be sure and

(39:54):
vote if you're not registered, to get out there. Study
the issues, particularly saying the presidential and statewide elections what
I told my children, because I said, just study the
issues and look at the candidate's positions.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Not so much.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
I mean sometimes I say, now what they say because
I don't believe what they say, but like what is
written down, what is factual about positions and then vote
for that candidate, that man or woman in local, state
and national elections that you think will point this country
to state, our community in the right direction. It's interesting

(40:32):
over seventy percent of Americans say as a country, we're
headed in the wrong direction. So be it for president,
be it Harris or Trump, whoever you feel will point
us in the right direction and get us on track.
Vote for that man that woman local state and national elections.
But as far as travel, wendy election years, particularly presidential

(40:58):
election years, I have some interesting trends.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
Well, they do.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
And this is something that is being talked about in
all areas of the economy right now, is that it
is a slower booking season right now because people are
so sensitive about the direction the economy is going. Heard
it this morning on the news about real estate and
that real estate was a slow market right now, and

(41:24):
we're seeing that trend in travel. So that is something
people want to see what's going to happen with the election.
And then are they booking a really really big trip
are they just going to book a smaller trip?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
You know what I hear people say, Dan and Carlos
is if Trump selected the economy is going to be great,
and I feel good about investment, and if Harris is elected,
we're going to pot. Then I hear people say, if
Harris is elected, the economy is going to be great.

(41:56):
I'm going to do investment, and if Trump's selected, We're
going to go to pot You know, you hear such
a absolute diversity of opinion.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And they're a surety of their opinions.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Oh, they're absolutely certain.

Speaker 6 (42:10):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
I know the Holy Land now is not a place
we're going. But in previous election years, Carlos and Dan,
how have you seen that effect, say the Middle East
or South America?

Speaker 6 (42:24):
Well, really, the presidential elections in the past, except when
there was a war in the Gulf, hasn't really affected.
In the fall of the year they travel to the
Holy Land. But the thing I noticed now is there
is a good coffee going on right now.

Speaker 4 (42:40):
There are some great deals that you can get on.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Well, is the same situation in South America. You know,
the government South America are very diverse. Many of them
look like Trump, many of others look like you know,
there are women in Well what about what about in Mexico?
A woman the first president that is unheard of. Yeah,
so I mean that changes, you know, that people are

(43:06):
waiting for something to happen the economy, of course.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Well, the point is whether you're right, left or in
the middle, is that we see this all the time,
that things are slower, and as you mentioned, Dan it
opens great opportunities. Some of the deals that we're seeing,
I'm going to mention just one. You know, some time
ago Morris Columbus Travel bought half of an Almah Waterway's

(43:35):
riverboat the Christmas markets. We have one cabin left now.
By buying it, excuse me, by buying it, the prices
were solo and depending on the cabin, it was either
hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars below what Alma
would sell it to you for in some cases well

(43:57):
over one thousand dollars less per per then buying it
directly from Almah Waterways. I'll be hosting with my lovely
wife Kathy, a Christmas markets on the Danube. We start
in Nuremberg, which is, by the way, my favorite Christmas market.
The Christmas markets of Europe are a six hundred year

(44:17):
tradition where every town, village, hamlet, big city, small city
completely loses their mind at Christmas it's not department store stuff.
It's outdoor festivals. Wouldn't Kiosk be decked with evergreens. It's music,
it's food, it's drink, it's dancing, it's entertainment and shopping, shopping, shopping.

(44:38):
I'm not a shopper. I don't even like to shop
for socks. I really don't. The last time Kathy and
I did this, I had to go buy a suitcase
because I bought stuff for my grandkids.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
It's very motivational.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Oh and you feel Christmas. And this itinerary will be
visiting Germany, Austria and Hungary and Nuremberg. We ow in Vienna,
we overnight in Nuremberg. We overnight in Vienna. We overnight,
meaning the ship stays there every night. In Budapeste, there's
one cabin left, Wendy.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
There is Yep, there was a cancelation because this has
been sold out and then you know, something happens and
we try to help people and resell these cabins. So
we do have one cabin left. But the thing is
we we had two and then this lucky couple bought
one of the cabins huge discounts. Well, this is in
a huge discount. Not only that, we just did their

(45:33):
airfare for like eleven hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
It was insane. I couldn't even believe it.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I double checked the price to make sure it wasn't
basic crazy. I'm like, oh, this has got to be basic,
hold on, and it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I should say we can't guarantee any air airline price,
because that's what just sold for this week. Love to
have you join me. You know, I've been to one
hundred and fourteen countries, most of them many many times over.
If I had to name my top three travel experiences,
the Christmas markets of Europe is in that top three.

(46:06):
This is trust, Larry. Time join me December fourth to
the eleventh. You're home two weeks before Christmas, plenty of
time to shop for my Christmas present.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Shoot, okay, hey listen. Africa. You know, Africa has a
mystique about it. It's called the Dark Continent. And that
has nothing to do with skin color. It's just because
they called it the dark Continent over mystery. There's a
mysterious mystique about Africa, and uh, you know, very different experiences.

(46:45):
You want to see the silver backs, the gorillas, you
want to look at Rwanda and Uganda. We've talked We've
talked about the great migration in Kenya and but I'll
tell you South Africa. You get a mix of big
city English, Dutch tradition, everything about it. And we have

(47:10):
one Wendy, I am.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
So excited to be going back to South Africa and
you you hit it. South Africa has got such a
combination of the animal safari that people think about number
one activity when you go to Africa is seeing the animals,
but then the culture of the city.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
And because it was.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
A British territory for so long that in the Dutch
and and the port. I was going to say being
down there at the south end of the continent, but
this is such a great experience to be able to
go and experience Cape Town, going down to.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Mountain, tabletop mountain. But you're visiting South Africa, Zimbabwe and Botswana.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
And Botswana going over to the Choby so the Chobe
National Forest over there. So this has got two very
unique safari experiences. We are going to Victoria Falls, I love,
one of the world's best national or waterfall experiences, and

(48:28):
then going down to the tip of the continent, going
down to the Cape of Good Hope, seeing the penguins
down there, another animal experience. And the thing about this
tour is in September of next year and it's only
thirty five seventy nine and it is almost two weeks.
It is so affordable.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
This itinerary September eighteenth, nineteen. More on that we come back,
when we come back. Now today, how I got to
sig the army closed the airport on my dam.

Speaker 9 (49:02):
Great story malone a travel show.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
Yes, that's the native greeting and welcome back in Tonga,
by the way, you know that is a kingdom to
have a king There's many islands, but four main island
groups Tongatapu, Aowa, Hapi and beautiful Vavatu.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
You know one of the great experience. Who was sailing
with my son who was about eleven or twelve, just
the two of us there in Tongan We sailed through
the archipelago of islands there. I'm quite a navigator. They're
up near Vavau, beautiful, beautiful experience. With that, you know

(49:55):
we're coming up. Can you believe that it is now
officially less by one day, less than two weeks till
Christmas and I'm still out in shorts and shirt sleeves.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Two months not two weeks.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Excuse me? Thank you scared me? Well, I'm brain dead,
not two months today. Well I lost it a long
time ago, October twenty sixth, So where one day? We're
less than two months away from Christmas? So I just
need a very quick yes or no answer. Have you
got my Christmas present yet? Wendy?

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Now, Carlos, you're such a tight d oh.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
That's right. He gave me a book. Dan loves me,
the two of you, to heck with you anyway. You know,
I'll tell you a great Christmas gift. Everybody loves the
gift to travel. I'm going to put you on the spot, Dan, Okay,
you have two seconds. I'm going to ask you two questions.
Two seconds. It's called front of mind awareness. My is
easy because my front of mind is empty. But I

(51:01):
want you to tell me a Christmas gift you got
three years ago, you know, but you got Shirley. Are
you listening? But okay? Now I want you to go
back to your childhood okay, and tell me, not the details,

(51:23):
just a destination of a family trip.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Two seconds.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Well, then, how is it that we can't remember a
Christmas gift one or two or three years ago. And
this does not diminish a tie, a sweater, or a bicycle,
a basketball, a book. These are wonderful gifts, but they're things.
But yet we can go back to our childhood. For
Dan some ninety years ago, it isn't still Carlos, don't

(51:54):
you dare laugh, you're one hundred and ninety years ago.
And Wendy thirty nine, and for me forty five. Yeah, okay, yeah,
but you can go back to our We can go
back to our childhood because it was an experience. Travel
is an experience. It generates emotions and memories. I can
hear a song and remember a date that I was

(52:16):
on in high school, a dance that I went to.
I can hear a have a smell that reminds me
of an event of a restaurant.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
So I just got back from leading a tour to Switzerland,
and the pivotal moment of this tour was when we
got to see the matter Horn. And there's a whole
story behind that. This lady broke into tears because of
a Christmas gift. Her father had given her a book
on the Matterhorn. When she was eight years old, and
she promised that she would go and see the matter

(52:49):
Horn and we fulfilled that for her.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Well, the great Christmas gift is a Morris Columbus travel
gift certificate. You can buy them in whatever denomination and
then it's fun. I've done this with family members and
given the gift of travel and then get out a
globe and just start looking at it. Because the gift
certificate has a you can buy a specific trip, or

(53:12):
you can buy a dollar amount and say where would
you like to go for the thirteen dollars in your
Christmas gift certificate? Yeah, you can take the bus out
to Wendover. You see what I'm saying. I'll tell you
a great gift of travel. We have one cabin left
on the Christmas markets on the Danube. Now that was

(53:32):
a shameless self promotion December fourth to the eleventh. Now,
I think one of the most impactful travel experiences in
my life is the Holy Land, which we're not going to,
but Dan give us an update on what's going on
in the Holy Land right now.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
Well, as you've mentioned already, of course, Israel responded to
the Iranian actions that happen in October with over one
hundred flights last night. Really their time, and was Sabbath,
which was unusual on a Sabbath day.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
To day and unexpected and unexpected. That's when, that's.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Why they did it for one reason.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
For a Saturday morning. And then But the response I
heard from our State Department today is that they're not
expecting it to cause any regional conflict right now. That
that was a quick response. It hit only military areas
in Iran. Now, what's going on in Israel right now?
I don't know if the audience is aware, but Brigham

(54:34):
Young University, the Jerusalem Center has currently all of its
faculty and all of its administration, some of its service
couples over in Jerusalem right now. Just yesterday I got
this little comment here, and yet on any day of
the year, I feel safer in Israel even now than
in Utah. No slam against this great home state. Just

(54:57):
letting you all know that you're fine and doing well,
and hope more of you will come to visit. So
the time will come. But like you said, we need
to make sure it's wisely done that you can really
enjoy the experience.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, I don't recommend tours right now. I would personally,
I would go today if there was something for it.
But you mentioned that the Brigham Young University, the faculty
and staff and all of that are living over there.
Do you know any organization more conservative and I mean
this as a compliment than the Church of Jesus Christ

(55:32):
of Latter day Saints Flagship University BYU, I don't know,
And I use that as a barometer when they're putting
people there, and you know they're looking at the situation
very carefully.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
Yes, in fact that if you'll go to their website,
you'll find that the student program in January is still schedule.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
You say, their website, whose website?

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Give me?

Speaker 1 (55:53):
Give me the url B drew some center. All right,
we'll come back in the next segment, and they give
you that.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
U ur l okay.

Speaker 6 (56:04):
And so we're hoping that by next spring we'll see
things open up. But this is always iffy, and so
we're planning programs for a next spring already. You can
go to the M M E Tours dot com and
see a few things listed there for next year.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
And we expect we're very very hopeful.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Yeah, go to rather go to Morriscolumbus dot com, scroll
down to Morris Murdoch Escorted Tours and click on holy
Land Morriscolumbus dot com. Hey, and we come back. Dad's
gonna tell us about his new book and we're gonna
have a discussion about a favorite side of mind in
the holy Land. Welcome back to the Travel Show. I'm

(57:03):
Larry Gelwicks, that get away guru. The Travels Show is
sponsored by Morris Columbus Travel, where you always travel more
and pay less. Check out all the good offerings at
Morriscolumbus dot com. That's Morriscolumbus dot com. And if you
want any of our escorted tours, which travel under the
brand name Morris Murdoch Escorted Tours, go to the homepage.

(57:27):
Scroll down. I think it's the third item listed on
the homepage. Click on Morris Murdock Escorted Tours. Then simply
click the geographic destination click on South America, Europe Africa
for that Africa that September one, South Africa is Zimbabwe
and Botswana.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
It's under the Asia Africa tab right right or you know,
I don't know if you know this, Larry.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I'm just going to point this out.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
We've changed one of our tabs that used to say
LDS Church History Tour for the members of the Church
of Jesus Christ the Latter day Saints, the faith based
tours we get. We've actually changed this tab to now
read LDS Faith Based Tours, So any tour that we
have that has a focus on the faith of the

(58:18):
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints will now
be located there. So if you want to go on
a tour that is faith based, whether it's a cruise,
whether it's Europe, whether it's domestic church history, you can
just click.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Under the one tab.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Well, fantastic that there's so many good programs very quickly
before we get to Dan's book, which I promised to
tell you about how I got the Zimbabwe Army to
close the airport. This true story. Now, in nineteen ninety eight,
Morgan Scaley was captain of the Highland rugby team. He's
now the defensive coordinator up at the University of Utah

(58:56):
and we were there, we were in Africa a month
at a world tournament. They you know, like a World
Cup has the national all star team be it soccer
or Olympics, is a basketball it's like an all star team. Well,
rugby has a World Cup, it's a a national team

(59:19):
or all star team. But this tournament was for high
schools where it wasn't the national team, but it was
the individual national high school champion individual school and we
were the defending champions that went in July because the
kids were out of school and that's winter time down
in south of the Equator, and we represented the United States.

(59:39):
We were gone for a month. South Africa and Zimbabwe. Wow,
and we shopped the rugby. We're being an Americans. They
didn't you know we were finish a disc.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
You were a novelty.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
We were because they'd see the boys throwing the football around,
you know, playing touch football. We're there for a rugby tournament. Anyway,
We ended up finishing third in the world, lost in
the semifinals to Kelston Boys High from New Zealand, which
went on and beat the South Africa champ for the championship.

(01:00:12):
We then beat the national champion of Tonga Tupoe for
third place in the world in the bronze Midle absolutely shocked.
It was televised all over the world. Nobody could believe it.
We played in these big stadiums. Well after the tournament
we're there in Zimbabwe, went to the falls, Victoria Falls

(01:00:35):
or vic Falls and Reg Neild, who was mister everybody
in Zimbabwe, great guy and he was a big help
to us and we coordinated everything. And we're up at
Zimbabwe at the Victoria Falls and there's one flight flying
us back to Harare, the capital of Zimbabwe, and we're

(01:00:58):
running late, but Reg with us and he had army
trucks pick us up, soldiers driving us around. Yes, they
had weapons too, in case a lion came after us. Yeah, sure,
that's true. And we went bungee jumping over the river
and their crocs in the river. But you got to

(01:01:21):
make sure because you know, at most bungie they ask
you if you want to dip like your head dip
in the water. We said, no dipping here. You know,
on the Zambizi River.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
There are crocks down there. Sure is this is this?

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
I call him, by the well, the last thing I
saw with your son is he was in the mouth
of a croc because the jumbie, the bungee rope broke. Anyway,
we're running late. He says, no problem. He calls the
General of the Zimbabwe Army. The General, would you close
the airport. They closed the airport and we're about an

(01:01:55):
hour late. We're sorry, and then everybody's on the plane waiting.
There's no security. There was no X ray or anything.
The army trucks rolled up next to the plane. We
got off and got on the plane.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Story.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
But a great story is Reg. We were talking back
and forth. He had been referred to us, and he
helped with the billeting and everything. He's got family here
in Utah too, and so the best part, one of
the best parts of the stories. He calls me up
about a week or so before we leave for Harari, Zimbabwe,

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you know, with the team. It's July nineteen ninety eight.
He says, Larry, this is Rech. Hey, Reg, how are you.
I got some stuff I want you to bring me fine,
I'm thinking is it a favorite snack or potential? He says,
I've got some corneas like I corneas, my goodness, And
he says, I need you to go up to the

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University of Utah hospital. They're expecting you. They'll be on
dry ice. Can't get him here. There's some people I
know that need cornea transplants. So would you hand carry
some corneas for me. With that, I just said, I'll
keep an eye out for you. You know, the eyes

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have it same. No really, so I'm hand carrying this
with dry ice all packed in the hospital. Did a
great job by carrying corneas from eyeballs to Africa. A
lot of fun. Well that's a great segue that Dan
owns book. Hey, you know, Dan and I have been

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best friends fifty years going on. We sat next to
each other in graduate school classes and just developed a friendship.
Dan went on to thirty two years with BYU Department
of Ancient Scripture and Travel Study. His study, he got
his graduate degree from an Israeli university, lived in Israel

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for some almost some ten years. Founding member of the
BYU Jerusalem Center. By the way, we got that website.
If you want to look up what they're doing over there,
it's Jerusalem Center dot CE as in Continuing Education Jerusalem
Center dot CE dot BYU dot edu, Jerusalem Center dot

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CE dot BYU dot edu. And you know, he was
a founding member. He was a faculty advisor. He taught
some of the students. But they bring these smart guys
over to be directors. Dan taught them. Now he is
too humble to admit any of this, including sixteen languages

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that are most of them ancient.

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
He's too humble.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
But I am his errand as in Moses and Aaron,
I am his spokesman. I will brag him up and
it's all true. Humility, of course, is a character traite.
I've never been a Q, but on occasion I think
I'm guilty of but it's rarety Larry.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
I would be suspicious when it comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Yes, oh you know I could turn your mind. I'm
off the control. I could turn your MIC's OFFT go ahead,
have security escort you anyway. So, Dan Uh, I don't
know how many years I've heard you talk about this
eight series a book.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
Eight series.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
Dan is not a as I've said, It's not an
encyclopedia of knowledge, because that's too limited. He is a
google of all things, the Holy Land, ancient Egypt, ancient Israel,
the House of Israel. And so your first volume is
the Foundations of Scriptural Understanding, Volume one, the Perfect Christmas Gift.

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In fact, Dan, as we came in the studio, gave
me my Christmas gift. Dan, I'm gonna let you introduce
this book and why why it's different. You go down
to Desert BOOKOK or a Christian bookstore. One of my
favorite Christian bookstores is in Berkeley, the Union Theological Seminary.
I spend a lot of time there at cal Berkeley

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Great Bookstore, Christian bookstore, and also non Christian religious studies.
Introduce your book to.

Speaker 6 (01:06:17):
Us, Well, this book comes, as you said, from a
lot of years of experience, and it's actually part of
an eight part series. This is volume one to introduce
the rest of the series. But some of the things
that we cover in this book are not only the
classical things, but we include things that some of which
have never been in print before. By the way, in

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some of the appendices, I've been asked to do this before.
In fact, over thirty years ago, I was asked to
do something like this by both Truman Madsen and Dan Ludlow.
They offered to even write introductions to it. Of course,
those both that passed away.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
If you could get an introduction from them, now, I
guarantee your book will be a bestseller, preferably on Instagram introduction.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
But at any rate, what we're covering in this one
is rather unique compared to what you might use to
rather than Although I include all the typical things that
you need to discover and understanding the scriptures, I also
cover such elements as the foundations of understanding the Messiah
concept and the scriptures, the foundations of the Mosaic law,

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and so forth. And by the way, this is published
by west Bow Publish.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I was going to bring that up. This is not
Deseret book or an LDS published. You have LDS references,
but so insightful as this book, and you know you
have Christian and non Christian historical citations. That the largest
Christian publisher in the country is taking this even with

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some LDS references, and that's unique. So it's really a
great gift for LDS, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterian, Protestants, Jews. Yeah,
it has this information and so detailed is this and
so insightful that the largest Christian publisher in the country said,

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we want to, we want to you want me to
try again? Was that Dan Ludlow contacting you, Truman Truman mad.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
What I've included this are some of the insightful things
on the Messiah, on the Savior. Oh, I'd love to
have the time to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
We will have you back to do more? Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
You know you also brought up a subject that will
be covered in the next two volumes concerning the Temple site,
but even this one covers areas of name, signs, tokens,
other things from ancient times to the modern times and
their value and understanding the scriptures themselves and how they
are here somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
You know, I've been to the Holy Land so many
many times, and Dan and I lead tours together. My
graduate studies included first century Christian literature Coptic, it's one
of the Egyptian languages, and studies in Hebrew. And you know,
you have all of the wonderful sites, you know, the
Sea of Galilee, the Mount of the Beatitude, certainly the

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Garden Tomb of Resurrection. But one of my favorite favorite,
and we're going to talk about it next week, is
the Temple Mount, also known as Mount Mariah, Abraham and
Isaac and the two Teles. We'll be doing more of that,
and when we come back, I'll tell you how to
get a hold of Dan's book. Here on the travel show, Well,

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we're coming to sundown the close of the travel show
are I don't know where two hours goes and I'm
so grateful you work with these three wonderful people. Wendy
Frakia Group department manager, Carlos Vita Miamigo are director of
Latin American Sales, and of course Dan Hone, best friends
for fifty years and so many experiences in traveling all

(01:10:18):
I've traveled with all three of you. In fact, Wendy
and her husband Art will be coming with me to
Thailand and Cambodia.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
We are so excited.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
That's going to be so much fun again. I've got
to pick out a house there. I want to. I
say I want to retire there, but I'll never retire
till I'm six feet under.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Okay, and tell if you get a house, I'll come
visit you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
I hope that you will. Hey, we're talking to Dan
Hone and this wonderful book volume one of the foundations
of Scriptural Understanding. You have a book signing this Friday,
which I believe is November the first.

Speaker 4 (01:10:53):
Yes, that's in provo.

Speaker 6 (01:10:54):
At Whole Health Team, which All Health, which is you
can find a website for that under that title as well.
It's eighteen thirty two North eleven twenty West from four
till seven that day.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
We have plenty of room.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
There'll be refreshments, but also I'll answer any question to
have and have some books on hand where you can
purchase some and I'll sign them there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
That is Friday, November the first, four to seven pm
at the Whole Health Team eighteen thirty two North eleven
twenty West. You can also go online and order the
book at Travel Studies that's plural Travel Studiesinstitute dot org.
When you go to the home page, you'll see kind

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of a toolbar across the top and it says home
shop Galilee all of this. Click on shop and then
you'll see three book offerings. The one on the left
is Volume one, The Foundations of Scriptural understand by Dan Hone.
That again is Travel Studies Institute dot org. Click on

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shop shop and then you can order the book. Just
click on the book. There's also got some other writings
there that I say, all the the perfect Christmas gift
that along with a Morris Columbus Travel Gift Certificate and
Wendy Carlos and Dan. I'm well, Dan, you've already give

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me my gift. Carlos and Wendy, I'll expect it next week.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
My Christmas gift I'll start working on it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Or we'll go out for Argentinian Taka's in Enchilanas. Hey, listen,
don't forget to parkin Jet. If you're using the Salt
Lake Airport. Go to the homepage Morriscolumbus dot com, Morriscolumbus
dot com, click on resources, and then click on the
twenty percent discount at parkin Jet. What I love about

(01:12:58):
parkin Jet, First of all, it's locally owned. I like
doing business where the money stays in the community and
not goes out of state. There there's another big off
airport parking. They do a good job too, but all
the money goes out of town and it's a it's

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it's so huge. What I've wondered is how long do
I have to stay in the van before they get
to my car? I mean, it's it's pretty big anyway,
Parking Jet right there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
One of the things that we mentioned to get a
reminder Wendy that we have one cabin left on the
Christmas Market cruise December fourth, the eleventh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
That's the lucky winner of the one cabin.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
The discount, I can't remember the amount, but it's massive.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
In you know, one of.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
The misunderstood tours. Of course I'm a misunderstood man, but
one of the misunderstood tours.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I think we're going to change the name is we.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Call it the Scotland Tattoo Festival. Now that's not the
Moroni tattoo that Carlos has all over his back.

Speaker 4 (01:14:11):
Nor I didn't show you or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
No, your wife Karen did show me a picture. No,
the tattoo. It's the largest military bagpipe and drum Corps
festival in the world. It's viewed by one hundred million people.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
The pageantry of this festival is just a site and
it is a feature of a tour that you're doing
next year that starts in Scotland, goes to Wells and
it will end in England with a Paris add on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
See tattoo comes from oh hundreds of years ago, where
you know, the town crier would yell out tattoo tattoo
to the pubs, which was a signal to the innkeeper
to turn literally turn off the tap and send the
soldiers back to the barracks. It was a military called

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tattoo tattoo which became tattoo. It has nothing to do
with ink blots on your skin. And you know, I've
talked to a lot of people and they saw the
tour and they said, well, I'm not interested in tattoo.
You know, I love Danny, I love Barbara or whatever
it is on your mom that's right, it has nothing

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to do. So I think we're let's rename it England,
Scotland Wales featuring the Scottish bagpipe and drug. It's in
the It's at Edinburgh Castle up on the Mount and
you go on YouTube and just put in h Scotland
Tattoo Festival and see some YouTube on it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
We've got prime seats reserved for our group on this
and I think that's one of the things that we
do unique on each of our tours is we are
going to make sure you have the best experience.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
This festival, again viewed by one hundred million people worldwide,
is only in the month of August for a few weeks.
We our tour England, Scotland and Wales is August the
eleventh to the twenty first, including the military tattoo, tattoo,
the bagpipes and drums. Love to have you join me.
I'll be your host and that wraps it for the

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travel show will be next week, have a great week,
God bless and be sure you registered a vote.