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Welcome to the Travel Show. Anotheraward winning edition of the Travel Show in
our thirty second year, broadcasting throughoutthe crossroads of the West all the way
to the Atlantic Ocean. I'm LarryGelwiz. They Get Away Guru, joined
by Miamigo of Gosh about forty yearsnow. Carlos Feeda, Carlos been Venidos
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a travel Show. Senor Larry,thank you very much. We got a
great show today where some new Departmentof Transportation regulations that are going to put
money in your pocket of free airpromotion and what is the etiquette when someone
asks you to switch an airline seata total stranger. Disney has got a
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new seventeen billion dollar project that I'mgoing to tell you about, and I'm
going to take you back to myhome city, San Francisco with the history
of the cable cars and how tobeat the system legally and ethically. Well,
Carlos, it's very interesting that theDepartment of Transportation, Pete Buddhaje Edge
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the secretary. I thought he dida really good job on this. He
has issued some new rules. InApril, the US Department of Transportation,
or DOT, introduced a rule.This is just this is just hysterical.
They had to issue a rule requiringairlines to quote provide passengers with automatic cash
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refunds when owed close quote. Thisrule applies to specific conditions, making the
refund process much more hassle free.Now we say cash refunds, it really
goes back to your form of payment. So if you paid for an airline
ticket with a credit card, therefund would come to that made by check
or cash. You get it.See when airlines cancel or significantly and the
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word they're significant, change their flights, significantly, delay your check bags,
or failed to provide extra services suchas I bought the Internet, I paid
for a window seat, an exitrow, I paid for an aisle seat,
I paid for something you know thatthey purchased. On some of the
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called LCC's low cost carries like Spiritin Frontier, they can charge you for
a carry on so anything and theextra is called an ancillary charge. Anything
that you purchased, they are requiredto compensate you on the spot. In
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quotes, I mean may be acredit back to your credit card that they
processed that day. Now, beforethis rule maneuvered the refund processes of all
airlines. Each individual airline had itsown refund policies, giving the passengers quite
a difficult time to figure it out. Now, some airlines had unreasonable refund
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policies for flight cancelations or delays,and this led to all sorts of complaints
to the DOT. Right now withthe new rules, which take effect July.
First, the rule came out inApril. If flights are canceled or
significantly delayed, now let me stopright there. The problem with the old
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DOT REGs was they did not theydefined canceled flight. That's pretty easy to
define. They did not define asignificant delay. So United Airlines walking the
Hall of shame came out with theirdefinition of a significant delay. It's twenty
six hours or more. It's thenext day and you're on your own.
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You've missed a wedding, a cruise, you've missed something. And then say,
you know, don't let the doorhit you in the rear end on
your way out of the airport.But anyway, so now if flights are
canceled as significantly delayed defined as threehours or more for a domestic flight or
six hours or more for international passengersare automatically eligible for a refund. Now
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you can get a refund, butyou give up your ticket. No other
words. You can say, Hey, listen, I'm going to miss the
wedding, I'm going to miss thegraduation, I'm going to miss my cruise.
As far as the airline ticket is, I'm just not going to go.
It's three and a half hours delayed. I'm going to miss it.
I'm not going to go, andthey have to give you a refund.
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Under the old rules, they giveyou a kick in the butt. Now,
if your baggage return is delayed bymore than twelve hours for a domestic
flight or fifteen to thirty hours dependingon the flight duration internationally, the checked
baggage fee, if any, mustbe refunded. Fees for extra services like
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Wi Fi, seat selection or inflightentertainment will also be refunded if not provided.
Now, with the new DOT rule, every affected passenger will be refunded
automatically without the passenger having to initiatethe process. So airlines must ensure that
they started immediately and that the refundreaches the traveler within seven to twenty days,
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depending on the payment method. Isit any surprise Signor Carlos that the
airlines fought this kicking and screaming.Now, now you remember last week I
gave a report that three airlines KLMRoyal Dutch Airways, South African Airways and
Luftanza de Deutsche Luftansea, the Germanairline, have been ordered to pay nine
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hundred million, almost one billion dollarsin canceled or significantly changed flights that they
were just holding up. They justsimply weren't refunding it. Will they pay
or they have to or they'll bekicked out of the US, And you
don't want to leave that market.Let me read you something about a flight
cancelation. If your flight is canceled, then here's where you find it.
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Go to dot Department of Transportation dotdot gov and then in the search bar
where you can type in you wantto just put flight cancelation refund and this
will come up. It'll say fly. I'm going to quote from the dot
regulations, being the barrister of lawthat I am all right, I am
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quoting quote what happens when my flightis canceled. If your flight is canceled,
most airlines will rebook you for freeon their next flight to your destination,
as long as the flight has availableseats, not any other airline.
I'll talk about that. I'll talkabout that. It's called a FIM.
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I'll talk about that. If I'mstill quoting now after your interruption. Quote,
if your flight is canceled and youchoose to cancel your trip as a
result, you are entitled to arefund for the unused transportation, even for
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non refundable tickets. You're also entitledto a refund for any baggage fee that
you paid and any extras you mayhave purchased, such as a seat assignment.
Close quote. Now, that's verydifferent under the old rules about a
delay, I didn't owe you anythingunder these new rules, which I heartily
endorse for significantly delayed. And youremember that was three hours or more on
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a domestic flight, and fifteen tothirty depending on the length of your international
flight. By the way, doyou know the longest commercial flight right now?
The longest the longest from Asia?Well, yes, it comes from
Asia NonStop from Singapore to New York. Nineteen hours. That's a long time
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to be in the air, itis, you know. Now, if
you're up in row two, it'sokay. If you're back in row fifty
two, you may want to rethinkthis and take a freighter and a steamer
by way of Hong Kong or somethinglike that. You have a question,
Larry, See. You remember thatin the past, when your luggage did
not arrive at your destination. Youarrived, but not the luggage. We
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were always getting some money to buyclothes. What happened with those rules,
nada. Well, what it isnow is you have to find out there's
a like a grace period. Now, some airlines will say just go buy
some stuff and save the receipts,and then I say good luck. But
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some of them say you gotta waittwenty four hours, and then they put
a cap on what you can spend. Yes, I just bought a cartier.
You know something. I bought anItalian suit for three thousand dollars.
No, no, that's not gonnafly. Now. You know there's another
one. By the way, youasked about another airline. That's called a
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fim F I AM Flight interruption manifest. They're very hard to get. Airlines
are not required. So I'm bookedon United Airlines from here to San Francisco,
and my flight is significantly delayed orcanceled. I can ask United to
put me on a Delta flight,say it's leaving in an hour, and
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that is called a flight interruption manifestwhere United will keep my ticket money that
I paid for it, but theywill, they will buy a ticket on
Delta Airlines for me to go.They don't have to do that, but
you can. I've been filmed,but it's extremely extremely rare. You know,
the thing we'll talk about later inthe show is denied boarding. Over
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Booking doesn't happen very often. Butwhat are your federally protected rights if you
face an over booking situation where thereare more people with reservations than seats.
When we come back, I wantto tell you about a legitimate free airfare
offer right here on the Travel Show. You're listening to the Travel Show on
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Talk Radio one oh five nine knrs. Just listen and you'll know Welcome back
to the Travel Show. I'm LarryGelwicks, the Getaway Guru, joined by
Carlos Fina, the director El Directortoriofrom Latin American Center for Morris Columbus Travel.
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Carlos will be taking us to Ecuador, Galapagos, Peru, Chileui.
Later here in the show. Youknow, Carlos, there is a legitimate
free air promotion, but it comeswith some strings attached. You know,
the devil's always in the details.Norwegian Cruise Liner NCL has one of the
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best promotions and it's really a threepart promotion. Number one is the first
guest pays a discounted rate. Thesecond guest sharing that cabin gets seventy percent
off. You know. Now,then you have the so called free at
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sea. We're saving the airfare forthe end. The free at sea means
you have free unlimited drinks, bothleaded and unleaded, free Wi Fi usually
about two hundred and fifty minutes fora seven day cruise, a one week
cruise longer. For a longer cruise, you have some free specialty dining.
You know, all the cruise lineshave specialty dining. I think one of
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the sad things about cruising right nowis, you know, dining be on
any vacation is a very memorable.I remember, I remember a meal that
you and I had not well,I remember the one in Cusco. We
had a great pizza and a kooi, which is a hamster or guinea pig
that they love to eat down there. To me, it's nothing more than
a large rat. Well, weate it. But you remember that dinner
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we had in Lima, Yep,I remember what was the name of that
restaurant. It'll come to you.It was a fabulous meal. But dining
is such an important part, youknow, Kathy and I love to go
to my hometown San Francisco, althoughit's you gotta be careful now good bye
bread by bread. Uh so wecan break bread with you sourdough. But
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you know, we're tempted to trysome new restaurants, but it's like,
I can't take a chance on abad meal, So we end up going
to the very same favorite restaurants.But they, you know, to have
a truly memorable meal on Royal Caribbean, Princess Carnival Norwegian, I think you
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have to go to the specialty dining. The buffet is okay. The main
dining room. I've never had abad meal, but it's okay. But
if you truly want now, ifyou get up there with by the way,
celebrity does a great job in thedining room, you get up there
with Crystal and Seaborn and seven Seas, you're going to have a fabulous meal
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every time. So they have thespecialty dinings, like Norwegian has Cagny Steakhouse.
It's it's a want. It's aruts Chris want to be. It's
not ruts Chris, but it wantsto be like roots Chris. They have
an Italian and the Seafood and Mexicanand these different ones. Then you get
some short excursion credits and on selectcruises, the third and fourth person sharing
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your cabin sales absolutely free. Soyou have the unlimited drinks, the Wi
Fi, the specialty dining, shortscrewsand credits and free cruises. And it's
called free it see, but I'mgonna let you in on something. This
is true with every cruise line theyhave, Like Princess Cruises has Princess Plus
with a bunch of amenities, andthey say they're free. They're not free.
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You have to pay for them.You see. For example, with
NCL you have two pricing. Youhave what's called sail away fares or X
category fairs they call them. AndI'm just going to arbitrarily make up some
numbers. These these are makeup numbers, okay. And the cruise is one
thousand dollars, but if you wantthe free at sea, it's thirteen hundred
dollars, but it's free. Yeah, the same thing, Prince is that
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Princess Plus. You want the basicjust a cruise one thousand dollars, you
want Princess Plus. Oh it's twelveseventy five, but it's free anyway,
So you get that. And youknow, I like to look at the
cost of the free at sea andthen decide whether I want or not.
But here's here's the one that Ireally like. It's the free airfare promotion
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on on their cruises, and it'sreally a bogo bo geo buy one,
get one, so the first personpays a heavily discounted fare, the second
person goes sharing your cabin, soit's absolutely free. Let me give you
an example. Let's see what lastyear I had that group London to Iceland,
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and I'll be by the way.I'll be doing that very same cruise
next June of twenty twenty five,but it's the reverse order. We start
in Iceland, go to Norway,go to Amsterdam, Bruges, Belgium,
maybe the most beautiful city in allof Europe, and then across the channel
to Southampton and London. That's Juneof next year. I'd love to have
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you join me, but on thisparticular cruise Salt Lake to London, where
of course we fly in there toget down to Southampton and flying home from
Iceland Rekiavik the capitol. I pricedit out with Delta and United and it
was approximately twenty three hundred dollars,but for me, my cost with NCL
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was sixteen hundred even which means Kathywent free. There's an effective rate of
eight hundred dollars per person. No, no total cost, so it's I
would have spent forty six hundred dollarsif I just bought the tickets. I
spent sixteen hundred. I mean that'sthat's several thousand, and I think it's
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a great it's a great deal.As long as you understand this. You
have no say in the airline orthe routing. They will get you there
on time. You can go onthe day of embarkation or boarding the ship,
or one or two days early,but only one or two. You
can come right home after di embarkationor stay one or two days. I
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wish they allowed more, but theydon't. Now here's the what people they
love this deal, but they say, well, they booked me on United
and I want to fly Delta orI'm changing planes in Dallas on American and
I don't want to change planes inDallas. Well, once you agree to
this deal, you have no sayin the airline or the routing. They
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will get you there with a majoryou know, airline, of course,
but they pick it. They findthe deal for that, and that's what
is the They will not entertain anappeal or a suggestion or request. And
I don't blame them. What dothey have fifty sixty thousand people coming and
going every weekend? How many peopleare going to complain about, Oh,
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I don't like this, I don'twant American Airlines. Yes, they can't
take those calls. So that's theway it is. It's really a good
deal. There's a special promotion NorwegianCruise Line and Morris Columbus Travel, the
sponsor of this show. Give MorrisColumbus a call and look through it,
but understand the free air promotion whenwe come back. What is the etiquette
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when a stranger asked you to switchairline seats? Right here on the show.
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You're listening to the travel show.I'm Larry Gelwicks. They get Away
Guru broadcasting from the Crosshow of theWest. I just love saying that.
And Carlos feeda director of Latin Americansales and my dear, dear friend for
some forty years. We've traveled theworld together, and we'll be traveling the
world together because Carlos is going totake us to the Wonders of South America
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later in the show, the mostunique, unbelievable trip that I have every
I don't know anybody that's done it, but we're going to save the surprise
for that. I want to mentionthat next June. I had mentioned in
the last segment that Kathy and Iwill be hosting that free air promotion cruise.
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It's applicable to that from Iceland toLondon on one of ncl's brand news
ships, the Prima, and itis a gorgeous ship. I've sailed on
it from Iceland to Norway, tothe Netherlands, to Belgium and then on
to England. It's a wonderful cruise. Prices are really good on it.
June twelve to the twenty second,twelve to twenty two of next year.
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Give Morris Columbus a call, andI should mention that the travel show is
sponsored every week by Morris Columbus Travelwhere you always travel more and pay less
and Norwegian Cruise Line, the homeof freestyle cruising. Check out the Morris
Columbus website morriscolumbus dot commorriscolumbus dot com. Well listen, you know, Carlos,
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you see it all over social medianow and I don't know why it's
it seems to be a bigger issuenow than ever before with what to do
when a total stranger asks to switchairline seats. What are you sad to
say about that? Well, youknow there are many ways why you could
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say yes or no. If Iam going to train my seat which is
always on iron seat, I wantanother seed. That's the way. Otherwise
you can pay seventy dollars and Iwould be very happy to give up my
seat, thank you very much.You know, it's true. Social media
is buzzing with a debate over switchingseats on airplanes. Passengers sometimes have legitimate
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reasons to ask you to swim,but ultimately everyone is entitled to say no.
For example, you may have paidextra for a window seat, or
an aisle seat, or extra layingroom. I'll tell you some of the
issues because I've been asked to switch, and it depends on the situation,
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you know, I've said yes,I've even volunteered. I remember Kathy and
I got upgraded and we're on aflight from where I think Chicago to Salt
Lake with Delta, and we gotupgraded and we were in seats to C
and D Charlie Delta, which arethe two in first classes, and the
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there was a guy that sat Wecould see a couple get on and they
were so I take it back,Kathy was not with me, and I
was in too, Charlie. Ialways have to have an honesty. Kathy
was not with me and they wereapart, okay, And so I asked.
And I was sitting next to histraveling partner, wife or girlfriend,
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and he was across the aisle fromme, and I said, are you
two together? He said yes.I said, would you like to sit
together? I said, oh,that would be so nice. They didn't
ask, but I offered that's nice. Yeah, So here's some of the
questions. You know, there's beena lot of stories about people. For
example, a father recently got escortedoff the plane before it took off by
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police when he became so angry thatanother passenger did not give up his seat.
The man said, I want tosit with my sons, but they
It was a two hour flight atsix am. The guy had paid for
a window seat because he can sleepbetter. All he wanted to do,
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his name was Nick, was tosleep, and this guy kept tapping him
before it and got irate, yelling, screaming. Now the boys were in
their late twenties for a two hourflight. He says, leave me alone,
and it got so bad he hadto be escorted off the plane.
Another traveler, Riley, said shepaid an extra forty dollars for a window
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seat closer to the front of theplane because she has a lot of anxiety
when she flies. A family withfour kids walked up to her and the
father grabbed her shoulder and asked ifshe wouldn't mind moving. She declined because
that I paid for this and Ihave a lot of anxiety and nervousness.
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I got to sit and it wasmoving to the back of the plane,
and she said no, And shesaid. The man's demeanor instantly changed.
He looked me dead in the eyesand said, oh, so you're really
gonna just let a kid sit backthere? By herself in the middle seat
and not with their family. Sothey had a girl, we don't know
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the age, sitting in the middleseat and the rest of the family was
up with this lady Riley. Doyou know who was assigned to that middle
seat was the dad? And hewas said, well, this girl had
no the girl had a seat upthere, and why can't the dad go
back and sit by him? Well, they can see someone else, yeah,
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anywhere you know he's an adult.If the childie's with a mother.
Yeah. For example, I'll tellyou something. The lowest airfares are called
basic Economy. Yes, and youdo not get an Advanced seat assignm until
you check in at the airport.And there's other restrictions on it. You
don't get frequent Flyer miles and thestatus upgrades. Well, I've noticed a
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families, maybe it's a family ofsix, seven or eight, they buy
the Basic Economy and there's no waythey can sit together, and they're asking
everybody to move around. That's notfair, that's not right. So what
I do is I will switch.You know, now, if it's a
young child being split up, Ihave simply I change in most cares,
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but it has to be equal forequal. There was a case last month
where a woman, you know,it's just so nice, and she's asking
a in a business class. Itwas from Toronto to Vancouver, so about
a four or five hour flight transCanada, and they had the lie flat
seats and everything on Air Canada.And this woman asked her if would you
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mind switching with my husband so thatwe can sit together. And she just
said, oh, sure, I'llbe happy to Where where is he she's
looking at, Oh, he's backin row forty three. She this other
woman got upgraded by status and wantedthis woman to go from business class back
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to row forty three. She saidno, Well, here's my advice.
First of all, asked to seethe boarding pass, because people lie all
the time about where the seat is. You know, you can even go
have a look at it, butyou keep your boarding pass in your hand.
If there's kids, how old arethe kids? And I don't have
as much sympathy for the basic economyclose what is the class of service?
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Are you asking me to go frompremium economy to steerage or something like that?
Is it an equal switch? Now? Proceed with caution because there are
really nasty people out there. They'reso nice. Be polite, but firm.
You don't have to debate this.If you say no, that is
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the end of the discussion. Butthey don't want to keep coming at you.
And if they do, call forbackup. Get the flight attendant involved,
and you'll do that. Now youknow, people are funny. Here's
some airline passenger behavior. You can'tmake this stuff up. There was a
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woman, miss Wells, Heather Wells, thirty four, of San Antonio.
She was traveling first class on AmericanAirlines from Dallas to Charlotte. About an
hour into the flight, she ordereda whiskey and became agitated and said,
now they're in the air. Shewanted out of the plane, and she
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began running up and down the aisleto the back of the plane, where
she dropped to her knees in theaisle and began talking incoherently to passengers before
literally crawling back through the aisle.She's uttered crawling, hands and knees,
crawling well. A flight attendant responded, and Miss Wells became quote verbally aggressive
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and told the flight attendant she wouldhurt him if he didn't get out of
her way. She then pushed him, spit at him, punched him,
moved to the front of the plane, where she lunged at the cabin door,
trying to pull on the lever,which, by the way, you
can't. It will not open inflight, but a lot of people don't
know that. Anyway, she headbuttedthe flight attendant. Two flight attendants and
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the passenger, a male passenger jumpedon her, literally and she struck one
of them. So to restain her, they have what they call flex cuffs.
You know, they're plastic, they'renot metal, and they got duct
tape and they duct taped her tothe seat where she begins she continued spitting
and yelling so and I have apicture of it. They duct taped her
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mouth and so around her legs,around her upper torso, her arms and
her mouth is all duct tape.This is what we have to face now.
You know, these low cost carriers, they they've never made a fee
like Frontier and Spirit. They've nevermet a fee that they didn't like.
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And by the way, all thethe governments come out with the requirement that
airlines have to disclose all their feesup front, not at the end.
All the major airlines except Southwest aresuing the government saying we don't want to
disclose the fees upfront. I meanwe have lost our minds out there.
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Anyway, here's a good one.So these days, airlines will do anything
to make money, especially the lowfare carriers that sell ridiculously inexpensive tickets and
then they try to make up forit by charging for everything from as signed
seating, even printing your boarding passif you don't get it on the app,
they'll charge that pre boarding wall,even for water, and of course
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for luggage. Now, the feethat most passengers of these LCCs low cost
carriers hate the most is the overheadbin and if and if you can pay
for it up front of the fee, but it doubles to about one hundred
bucks if they say your overhead,your carry on doesn't fit the overhead requirements.
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Well it may seem crazy, buta young man, Sean Hoover,
broke his skateboard in half because SpiritAirlines said it did not meet the personal
item dimensions one charge of eighty ninedollars. It was an l CHI po
wooden one, so he just brokeit in half and now suddenly it did
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one of the best ones was SpiritAirlines said a tiny suitcase did not fit
the airline's baggage sizer, so tohave to check it at a cost of
eighty nine dollars excuse me, onehundred dollars. So he took you know,
that's just little suitcase. It didn'tcost. He bought it like d
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I or something. He ripped thewheels off. He sit there and pride
the wheels off so that it wouldmeet the the overhead luggage. That he
saved one hundred bucks. We arelosing it completely. When we come back,
I want to tell you about thegranddaddy of them all, where a
passenger turned a Delta Airlines lavatory intohis personal kitchen. You'll never guess what
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he cooked up in the toy notwell, not in the toilet, in
the bathroom. All that more,we come back. Welcome back to our
number two of the travel show,the Best two Hours in Radio. I'm
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Larry Gelwicks, they get Away Guru, joined by the Argentinian gaucho, director
of Latin American Sales and all aroundgood guy, Carlos Feda. I want
your ward members to remember I saidnice things about you. I will be
very nice to you. You maynot hear it again. Thank you.
Anyway, you know, we weretalking about that Wonders of South America.
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If our listeners who go to Morriscolumbusdot com morriscolumbus dot com and on the
homepage scroll down to Morris Murdoch EscortedTours, you click on that, click
on South America and there it isand there are some slides there, about
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six, seven or eight slides ofwhat you will see and it'll I mean,
you'll be gasping. Yes, itis just monny. You've got to
see these particular slides. And bythe way, earlier this week you and
I did a webinar like a zoomwebinar, and it's being edited. It
will be posted where we talk aboutthis particular tour with some more video and
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pictures, So be looking for thatat morriscolumbus dot com scroll down to Morris
Murdoch Escorted Tourists. Now you saveyour frequent flyer miles, don't you.
We all do, and we wantfree travel for it. Yeah, it's
a good and you can get mileswith your credit card and different ways hotel
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stays, car rental stays, flights. Here's an easy way to get twenty
five hundred free Delta sky miles.They have a great policy called Delta's Promise
twenty minute baggage claim. In otherwords, off a domestic flight, they
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guarantee that your bags from the timethat the plane pulls up to the gate
the door opens. That's the landingtime, not when you've landed on the
runway, but when you've pulled upto the gate the door opens, look
at your watch, and Delta guaranteesthat your luggage will be on the carousel
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for you to pick up within twentyminutes. And that's really nice, you
know it. And if it's nothing, Now, this is domestic flights only
because international it can get held upin customs and immigration. So it's domestic
flights away. However, if you'reflying say Soul, Korea, which I
do often to Seattle, change planesSeattle Salt Lake even though I'm coming in
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from international, that flight Seattle SaltLake is considered domestic. Wow. Yeah,
And so if your luggage is notthere, you're entitled to twenty five
hundred three miles. But you don'tget it automatically go to Delta dot com.
You have to be a Skymiles member, which is their frequent Flyer program.
Free to join at Delta dot com. Go to Delta dot com and
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in the upper right hand court inthe search bar, type in twenty minute
baggage claim short form will come up. You put your name. You have
to put your reservation number or reservationcode. That is a sixth digit alpha
numeric. You can find it onyour boarding pass, on your printed itinerary,
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on your luggage claim. Check it'sthere, six digit alpha numeric,
the date I left from this cityto this city, your routing, and
the date of departure and arrival.Now it's all automated, and so if
it's close, they may come backand say no, your luggage was there
or But even if you think it'sclose, go ahead and apply for it.
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Now. I'll tell you. Forthe our listeners who use the Salt
Like International Airport, if you comeinto terminal or Terminal B, you know
it's halfway to Ogden, all right? I know I don't know at least
a third of the time, atleast when I come in to Terminal B,
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I get it doesn't make twenty minutesjust too far. And on the
really crowded flights, airport times you'remore likely to get it, but you
know, what's it to lose.So yes, I'm watching my watch.
I've picked up a ton of miles. That's nice, you know. I
hope my luggage is always late whenit's there, like at nineteen minutes.
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Please please please, Oh darn,it just came up on the carousel.
Hey, here's another one. I'dlove you to join me. For about
the last fifteen sixteen years, everyMonday, I appear on KUTV channel to
the CBS affiliate for Utah and SouthernIdaho and the six people who live in
Wendover, so and I give atravel news report. Now it's not a
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commercial, it is straight news.Like last Monday, I talked about well,
I talked about these frequent flyer miles, you know. And I filmed
it in Hong Kong. I wasthere, thank you. Anyway, so
pre pandemic, I would go intothe studio and sit with the anchors and
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you know, Mary and Ron andothers. They're in these nice suits and
dresses. I always would wear theloudest Aloha shirt I can find. It
was branding. I've actually been stoppedon the street and people say they recognize
me. They say, I recognizeyour shirt. You know these Aloha shirt.
I have about fifteen Alohas shirts.I love aloashirs, and I get
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fatter. I don't have to buya new wardrobe. I may start.
Actually I'm gonna start wearing a mumu. I think so, I really think
so. You know. So theydon't see your face, thank you very
much, wonderful anyway, but theyhave so I'm on there and I give
a travel report. It could belike new passport requirements. Maybe a cruise
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line's having a sale and airlines havinga sale something. But it's news update,
not a commercial. Did you talkabout the office, passport office that
they will use are open hitting Lake? That's going to be this Monday.
Well, they're planning on it,you know. I don't know of a
date, but yes, it wasannounced they're planning to have a passport office
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in Salt Lake. Date to bedetermined as far as I know, And
which means I mean you can evenwalk right in with an appointment. You
have to have an appointment. Youcan walk into any passport office around the
country if you get an appointment andget a passport renewal in one or two
days, depending on when you walkin. What the workload is anyway,
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So back to this when the pandemiccame, and by the way, the
KUTV segments called the Getaway Guru andit's usually two to and a half minutes
of straight news reporting. And againpre pandemic, I was always with the
anchors on the set, sitting onthe set as a news reporter. Well,
with the COVID they said, we'rethe station. The TV station wanted
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to reduce traffic in the studio.Understandable, and so they said, Larry
film it and just send it inbecause we love this travel news update.
All right, Well I did that. Pandemic's over, They said, Larry,
come on back in the student.I said, no. Now,
I like being anywhere in the world. This last Monday's and the previous Monday
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was filmed in Hong Kong and Ican be and the week before that it
was in Thailand. And so asI travel the world, I just film
it and email it in and it'sa lot of fun. Now it's every
Monday on the Neon News. Itusually airs between twelve forty and twelve fifty
sometime in there, and it's theGetaway Guru. I hope all of you
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will tune into KUTV Channel two,well all all week, but certainly on
Mondays between twelve forty and twelve fortyfive. You know, I'm I mentioned
something a week ago, just offthe top of my head about you know,
I was at Tokyo, excuse me, Hong Kong Disneyland when I was
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in Hong Kong, and I said, wouldn't it be fun to have a
Asia Disneyland tour where we go toHong Kong, Shanghai and Tokyo and you
spend like two days sightseeing in eachcity, then two days at the park
at a Disney hotel right out atthe park. You know, we got
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it, like four or five callsof people say are you going to do
this? You're going to do this? And I and I didn't take the
calls, but the group department,yeah, yes there is. I don't
have one, but I'm really thinkingmy biggest question is I want to go
in like April or May or lateMarch when the weather is super nice over
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there, cherry blossoms in Tokyo.I don't want to go in the summer
where it's hotter than he and it'slike going to Florida, you know,
and it's like I'm paying good moneyto be tortured in this humidity. So
it wouldn't be so much a lotof kids. It would be mostly adults.
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And there's a lot of Disney filesas I talk to it. So
I guess the question is I reallydon't know. Is there a market for
a Disney Asia cruise? I don'tknow. Hey, we're talking about getting
frequent flyer miles. Hey, giveme a call and let me know if
you have an interest in that.We're talking about saving frequent flyer miles.
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Yes, you know it takes theaverage person twenty two years to fly one
million miles. Well, Delta justannounced that their passenger, his name is
Todd from San Diego, just achievedin thirty years fourteen million miles with Delta
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now free. Yeah, the circumferenceof the Earth is twenty five thousand miles.
This is the equivalent of five hundredand sixty times around the equator,
fourteen million miles. Keep in mind, one million in twenty two years is
the average fourteen million. We hadthis a fluent from Zurich to JFK and
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then later went to send it atthis big party for him at JFK.
Congratulations Todd More. When we comeback, you're listening to the Travel Show
on Talk Radio one oh five nineknrs. Just listen and you'll know Welcome
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back to the Travel Show. I'mLarry Gelwicks to get Away Guru, joined
by Carlos Fieda. May we justexpress our appreciation. We have a lot
of laughs, cooking garlic shrimp ona Delta Airlines laboratory and ripping off wheels
of small carry on so you don'thave to pay. We have a lot
of fun on this show. Welook forward to every weekend to spend with
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you. You know, Carlos,we were talking earlier about some of the
wonders of South America. You know, very briefly, Cusco is a fascinating
city. It has it's about eleventhousand feet, so it's up there,
and if people are concerned, theyactually do have oxygen at hotels. Some
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people get altitude, you know,they fly from Lima, which is almost
sea level. Yeah, right upto eleven thousand feet. I've never had
an issue with it, but Iknow it's right there. It's it's known
as Cusco, but it's also thenickname is Ombligo del Mundo. That's correct,
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del Mundo, which wins the bellybutton of the world. According to
Inca legend, the first Inca wasborn at Lake Tittikaka in a place is
called Island of the Sun, whichis kind of between Peru and Bolivia.
The god of the Sun guided themto establish a civilization called Coastco, not
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Costco, Coastco in Catchuwan, meaningbelly button of the world, and they
considered that the center of the universe, a center of the world. Ah,
there is something interesting here. Theyare Rapanui. People consider the island
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as the navil of the world aswell. So we got two belly buttons.
Yeah, you mentioned Rapahnui or EasterIsland on the Wonders of South America.
It is a UNESCO World Heritage Site. And if you'll go to Morris
Columbus dot com scroll down to Morrismurdoch Escorted Tours, go to South America
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and find this tour. You'll seeon those slides about I don't know,
there's about a eight of them.You gotta see these slides. One of
them is of the Mawai, whichare those elongated heads. And you know
there's no consensus or on their purpose. Now, most of the statues underground
because they have a body. Someof them have been dug up. But
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these elongated faces that you see,I mean, it's absolutely fascinating. There's
eight hundred and eighty seven of them. They were built by the early Rapanui
indigenous people. Many people think torepresent their ancestors, but there's no consensus
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on their purpose. It is theworld's many people say it's the world's most
isolated inhabited land place or island.That's not actually correct. It's twenty two
one hundred miles from Chile, andHawaii is about twenty five hundred miles from
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west coast. Why is the singlemost isolated land land mass land mass with
that anyway, So again, thisis going to be a wonderful tour next
March. But you have a tourI believe it's in October and Galapagos Equadoran
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Galapagos Island. Yeah, that's anotherunique tour because most people that go there
and said, I want to takea cruise around the Galapagos Island. It
is an archipelago with maybe three orfour inhabited islands. The rest is just
tiny islands with a lot of partyof bears and tortoises and turtles and everything
else. So but the interesting thingis that we don't do that. We
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don't navigate. We just moved fromone place, the capital of the island
that is in Santa Cruz Island,to another island, and we stay to
see all the different islands. What'sinteresting, Carlos is animals have never learned
to fear humans. They will walkright up to you. Yes, birds
will walk up and land on yourshoe. They this is the rule.
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Then it becomes a white spotted shit. Stay away from the animals or the
birds, you know, at leasttwo feet guess what the blue for their
booby or come right on your shoeand stand there and look at you.
And of course you can move becausetheir guards, you know, the National
Park of Galapacs. It's checking tosee what you're doing. So it's interesting
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about unique. But the only timean animal may bark at you is if
it's got a newborn. Oh yes, and it's it's just an instinctive reaction,
you know, the Galapagoes. There'snothing like it in the world.
You know, there's you can seewhite sand beaches, palm trees, alpine
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splendor things all over the world.But there are a few things like the
Pyramids of Egypt that you can onlysee in one place, the taj Mahal
in India one place. But Galapagosis a world apart. And by the
way, your uncle Charles Darwin didhis family history there. Well, i'll
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be a monkey's uncleology. Yeah,that's where he came up with his idea
of the origin of the species ofman. You know. One other thing
interesting on that tours, we goto Quito. Quito was found in fifteen
thirty four by the Spanish conquistadores,and I believe it is the best preserved
colonial city in all of South America, besides being the capital city of Ecualor
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Yeah, you know what I lovethere. We go to the Otavalo Native
market. Yeah, that is quitean experience. You know. People say,
well, it's another market where wego and spend money. No textiles
and all kinds of things, youknow, made by the locals. It's
all indigenous, all indigenous. Thereis nothing that is made with a machine.
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This one. Tell me about theMiddle of the World monument that we'll
visit. Yeah, that's another thing. You know, there's a huge globe
in the middle of the park ona construction, you know, and you
can go up to the top andSI see the whole park. And then
you have another area that they callit as the real and true division line,
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you know, between South and North. And also they have all these
kind of tests, like the waterturning the other way around, you know,
in a sink, like putting anegg. Then there's the toilet,
there's the toilets swirl the other way. Yeah, and they have all these
things that you can see there lotsof fun. Just to remember the Wonders
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of South America, which is Peru, Chile and Easter Island Rapanui March eleventh
to the twenty fourth, and thenthe Galapagos and Ecuador is October eleven to
twenty third this year. Wonders nextMarch. Yeah, of course, love
to have you join us. Carloswill be hosting the Ecuador and Galapagos.
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Carlos and I will be hosting theWonders of South America. Check it all
out at Morriscolumbus dot com more whenwe come back. I'm Larry Gelwick,
the getaway guru for Morris Columbus Traveland Princess Cruises with the biggest cruise promotion
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You're listening to the travel show.In our thirty second I'm Larry Gelwicks
to get Away Guru joined by CarlosFeet of the Argentinian Gaucho with Morris Columbus
Travel. You know, can youremember this name? I want you to.
I'm speaking to our listeners to googleit and just put Requiere images or
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photos. One of my favorite placesin Europe that I will be seeing in
August. Remember we have that RhyaneRiver cruise and we stop one of the
options there is Requir. It's spelledr I que w i h r r
I que w i h r.It's in France, in the Alsace area
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region. I am totally in love. This is one of the most beautiful
villages you will ever visit in yourlife. Now. Some years ago Lonely
Planet the book series. The travelbook series named Alsace the area that it's
in one of the most desired andbeautiful places in the world. The village
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of wreck Weir was used by Disneyas the inspiration for Bell's village in the
movie Beauty and the Beast. Interestingit was, and you folks, you
just go look at it. Goas soon as this show is over,
reck Weer r I q u ew I h r that last year when
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I went on the cruise. Yeah, now the old town is and is
winding alleys walkways. Reck wear reallyis the crown jewel that's hidden in time.
And you know, old town todaylooks like it did with the buildings
and the cobblestone streets, the timberedhouses as it appeared in the sixteenth century,
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the flowers from the balcony. That'sright. See. You can come
down a day trip from Salzburg.It's only forty three miles. It's right
there near the river, a veryMediterranean climate. The Black Forest is very
close to it also. But Iwas looking this week and planning some things
for our Ryan River cruise. Wehave a wonderful group of travel show listeners
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traveling with me and I I mean, you pick whatever tour you want,
but I said, go to wreckWeir. R I q U E W
I hr and just put photos orimages and you will go, oh my
gosh, I gotta leave today.Also the black Forest. I want a
cuckoo clock on the black forest.How wonderful, how appropriate for you.
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I have a cuckoo clock in myhouse too. All right, you know
my hometown, San Francisco, it'sgot some problems, it still has its
great rear. Yeah, it's gotsome problems. But the you know,
everybody wants to ride the cable car. Well, the idea of the cable
car started in eighteen sixty nine byAndrew Halliday, a Scottish wire cable manufacturer,
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and he was climbing one of thosesteep hills in San Francisco. And
back in those days you had atrolley car pulled by four horses. Well,
without warning, one of the horsesslipped and the whole wagon, the
passengers, the horses slid down thehill, and of course the horses had
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all four had to be put down. But Holiday had an idea. What
if he remember he was a Scottishwire cable manufacturer. What if this wagon
or trolley could be pulled by acable underground. Well he got a permit
to try it on August. Hehad one day to make it work one
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day, so it was August first. He came up with the eye in
eighteen sixty nine, but it tooksome work. August first, eighteen seventy
three, early in the morning atabout five a m. Again, he
had had secured an exclusive franchise.If he could make a successful run with
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the trolley by an underground cable beforemidnight of that day, then he could
go for it. So Halliday andhis sixth assistance boarded the car, eased
it into the thick fog at abouttwelve miles an hour, and he made
the successful run, and cable carswere born in San Francisco. Now,
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originally there were twenty three lines crisscrossingthe city. Today we really have two.
One that goes east west along CaliforniaStreet, and it goes from the
downtown business district right next to myfavorite seafood restaurant, the Tatish Grille,
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which goes back to gold Rush days. They're Chiappino, that's the Italian seafood
stew is the finest I've had anywherein the world. Anyway, it'll go
from downtown business up to vans.And then you have the North South,
which goes from Market Street and UnionSquare, and then it splits one line.
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It's the same line until the veryend. One splits off to Fisherman's
Wharf, the other splits off toGardelli Square. So they're very very close,
they're walking distance with that. Butso there's only those two, and
so you might say three lines remainbecause the one is Giardelli, one is
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Fisherman's Wharf, the other is theCalifornia to ven S Now. I want
to tell you that if you go, don't buy a ticket. Don't do
it now, hear me out aticket one way, there's no on off,
there's no connection, is eight dollars. You can buy an all day
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pass it's called a passport, avisitor passport, all day for one day
for thirteen dollars, and that willget you the cable car and the trolley
car. Now there is a differencebetween the street car sometimes called a trolley
car. It's electric. It willrun along the Embarcadero and go almost go
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quite a ways down the peninsula there, I mean, not outside the city.
So you've got the cable car,the street car, and the munibuses.
NI for municipal bus. That oneday visitor pass gets you on all
three and so you know, youcould be at Fisherman's Wharf and you take
everybody wants to ride the cable carsand hold on to the side, and
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you go down to Union Square andcome back. You've spent sixteen dollars.
Do well here for you get anall day pass for thirteen, the three
day pass for thirty one dollars,and a one week, seven day pass
for just forty one dollars. Yeah. Well, we'll tell you how to
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ethically and legally beat the system withthat. So you know. One of
the things we love about San Franciscoare the restaurants. I'm going to give
you this a couple of my personalfavorites. I mentioned the Tattish grill on
California Street. Chiappino is unbelievable.It has a broth with shrimp and whitefish
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and scallops, not those little bayscallops, the sea scallops and their petrolley
soul and sand dabs is unmatched.Very similar to Sam's Grill up the street.
But I like the Tattish grill datingback seriously to the gold Rush days.
Now, if you want seafood downon Fisherman's warf Alioto, and some
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of those have closed. But there'sa very touristy restaurant that's actually very good
called Schomas and it's kind of hiddenaway, but it is wonderful for if
you want a fun Italian and continental, there's a place called the Stinking Rose.
That's my favorite. It is.It's right there on Colus. Now
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it's not a high end, fancyrestaurant, but you'll know why it's called
the Stinking Rose. When you walkin garlic garlic you can yeah, if
you want the best Chinese and dimsum yank sing anyway, a lot of
fun, fun restaurants there. I'mlooking for a great sour dough here in
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Salt Lake. Actually, the bestSara dough is my daughter in law,
Samantha Gelwick's. She bakes sour dough. It's as good or better than I
get in San Francisco. I don'tknow how she does it, but good
heavens, it's good. You know, I've tried several here in San Francisco.
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Stone Ground didn't like it. Greatharvest, No, well, Bodine
is a San Francisco bread I'm talkingabout here in Utah. Smith has artisans
breads. I find him disappointing.Harmon's. It has a good crust.
It could use a little bit moresour dough flavor, but it's a good
bread. The sour dough almost remindsme of a French country loaf, but
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I like it. I haven't hadVosns there on Second South, but it
gets very very good review. Ifyou guys have found a great sour dough
here in Utah, please please pleaselet me know and I will give a
full review. Right here. Ican tell you Larry about the best French
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baguette where you can get it,don't they. It's a place called Delis
and he's on seventeen Huns House onthe State Street. What a blakes.
That restaurant is full from morning untilevening, and they have the bit all
kinds of bread, but they don'thave sour dough because the Frenchs don't know.
How about my three favorite San Franciscosour doughs in the city, the
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Tartan Bakery. The New York Timeseven reviewed it and said it was perfect,
absolutely perfect. It's there on GuerreroStreet and the people line up.
It's a bakery. So you gotpastries and stuff, but they're sour dough.
People line up down the street toget into this bakery, the Tartan
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Bakery, T A R. TI N E. Two others that I
really like, the Acme Bread Company. Uh. The inside is dense and
soft and it's hearth baked. Ilike the hearth baked rather than a rack.
Now Bodine does have a good sourdough taste. They bake it all
I raq I prefer the heart becauseyou get a bitter crust, but it
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is Yeah, just kill me now, no, Lord, don't take me
seriously on that one. Well,those are some of the traditions, you
know. I want to remind youof Christmas and Christmas traditions. Do you
know that we are only one hundredand seventy seventy nine days from Christmas?
Now close one of my favorite youknow, there are things like Galapagos.
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We talked about some of my travelsin Thailand. There are a few places
Egypt, the Pyramids and the Nileof Egypt that are so unique. I'm
going to flat out tell you thatone of my favorite vacations anywhere anywhere in
the world is the Christmas Markets ofEurope. It is unlike anything you've ever
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experienced. You will lose your mind. A six hundred year tradition where every
city, village, small hamlet,big city has outdoor festivals, not department
store festivals, outdoor with wooden kioskand music and food and drink, and
you can shop or not shop,just everything imaginable. My last trip,
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and I'm not a shopper, Ihad to buy an extra suitcase because I
lost my mind with all I boughtmy grandkids everything I could find. Kathy
and I'll be personally hosting Christmas Marketson the Danube from Nuremberg to Regensburg,
Passel, Milk, Vienna and BudapestDecember fourth to the eleventh. We still
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have I think five cabins left.Love to have you join me Christmas Markets
on the Danube. Here on theTravel Show. You're listening to the Travel
Show on talk radio one oh fivenine knrs. Just listen and you'll know
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Welcome back to the Travel Show.I'm Larry Gelwig's the Getaway Guru, joined
by Carlos Feeda director of Latin Americansales and all around good guy at Morris
Columbus Travel do contact the travel specialistsat Morris Columbus, Morris Coolumbus dot com,
Morriscolumbus dot com. Stop by anyone of our offices here in the
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Inner Mountain West Well Carlos for youfly in and out of the Slake Airport.
Parking Jet is where I always park. I need to what the best
service, the best, the bestever service. Yeah, you know,
take it of your laggage. Youdon't have to do anything. They help
you when you arrive at the airport. Yeah, it is the best,
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and you can get a twenty percentdiscount. They'll pick you up right there
at your car. You can geta free car was you have to ask
when you go through the booth fora coupon, free coupon to wash your
car. Now they have your detailtoo. Yeah, of course there's a
cost to that anyway, parkins Jet. If you want that twenty percent discount
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coupon, go to Morriscolumbus dot comand scroll down and look for the Salt
Lake parking discount. You and I'vestayed in a lot of hotels in our
travels. The oldest I want.Now, I haven't told you what I'm
going to ask you. I wantto. We're gonna play stump the dummy.
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Okay, all right, take aguess. Huh the oldest continuously operated
hotel in the world. How longhas it been operating as a hotel and
still operating today? Uh? Isit in Japan? See? Or I
should say hi? Hi? Soyeah, and he goes back to the
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six hundred of yes. Yes,yeah, very good. I didn't set
you up. The Nishiyama osen KyuKhan, a Japan resort located in Hayakawa,
not far from Mount Fuji, hasbeen in business since the year seven
oh five. I hope they've renovated. I'm sure they have. Anyway,
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it's recognized by the Guinness Book ofWorld Records as the oldest continuously running hotel
in the world, and the hotelhas been passed down through the family for
fifty three generations. Wow, amazing. Now many people the historical samurai would
stay there, and of course alists celebrities like you and me have come
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to the inn for its history andhealing powers. Now what it is?
It has a famous bath Mochi TaniNoyu, and which is this hot spring
where guests and you can't even drinkthe water, not while people, but
you get a different faucet, uhyou know for that and it's it's it's
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called an osin roy kan. Nowosin indicates a natural hot spring is present.
A roy kan is a very traditionalstyle of Japanese accommodations and hospitality.
You have your own very Japanese unitwith the sliding doors. You'll shed your
western clothes and they have a likea cloak with geishas or with no no
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geechee. Girls there come on.Maybe you could special order them. But
it's just a very very relaxing,very traditional a tea ceremony, all of
it. And yes you can getherbal tea if you want to. Now
I'm going to tell you one ofthe very how do I explain it?
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It's the most cultural experience in Japan. I love Japan. It's so polite
and it's so clean. You know. The only people that jaywalk in Japan
are tourists. Seriously, they don't. They'll be standing there, not a
car in that, they'll wait forit to change. You don't see graffiti,
you don't see litter anywhere. Butone of the best cultural experience of
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the public bathhouses that has no nefariousinference right there. But you go it
has centuries old tradition where people didn'thave private showers or baths at home,
and now it's a cultural experience.Now it's it's gender separated. And they
have two genders in Japan, maleand female, and so it's it's separated
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right there. And you start theexperience. You go in. They give
you a locker, and the firstthing is you get a bucket and you
sit on a stool. Now,I want to say this appropriately, but
if you and there's these public bathhouses, you know it's very high class.
You shed your clothing at the locker, okay, you don't wear a
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swimsuit, and you sit on astool and they'll have shampoo and soap,
and you cleanse yourself completely, andyou have this bucket of water's dumping water,
and then you walk to the differenthot tubs. Now, traditionally it's
quite warm one hundred and five pointeight degrees fahrenheit forty one degrees celsius.
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For the modern person, they've temperedthat. Now you can still get the
original and it's almost one hundred andsix degrees water. That's hot, you
know, But they now they alsohave pools and they have many pools.
One of the most interesting pools becauseI enjoy this, these hot pools,
you can relax. It had anelectrical current in it. Now it's and
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you could. The idea is likeyou have a sore back or sore thigh
or something. It's stronger as youget to the middle of it. Nothing
like a light socket at home.It's very tolerable. But it's a whole
idea that it help. It's helping, you know, move the muscle,
smooth the blood. It's an incredibleexperience. You know, that's interesting because
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in Matchupichu. That's why then Iwas Callinus, which means hot springs.
There is a place like that,and the people from the town go there
every evening to take a back andrelax. Well, all that and moren
Listen, we've had a great showwith you. We look forward to next
week. We're in the month ofJuly, and so have a great week,
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celebrate the fourth and we'll see younext week. God bless you.