Travel Show - Life changing events; Hawaii; Stories from Russia

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome to the travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks, the getaway Guru,
joined by Dan Hode and Carlos Feeda, two of the
travel experts that will take you around the world. Yes,
it's the Argentinian gaut Show and the Bedouin Traveler. We're
so glad to welcome you to the Travel Show. You

(00:29):
know you spend your weekend with us on this time,
at this very station. We love to travel, we dream
of travel, we talk of travel. And it has been said,
gentlemen a term I used loosely that free advice is
worth what you pay for it, which is nothing. Having

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that understanding, I'm asked a question all the time, and
that is, Larry, what's your single best piece of travel advice?
And I'm going to ask you Dan, and you Carlos,
where is your best travel vice? Dan?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, I think it's when I learned from you. When
you're getting ready for the trip, go through, select the
clothing as much as you think you'll absolutely need no more,
and lay it out and then cut it in half
and then pack your bag and you probably still have
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you do that tonight before you go in your bed,
the empty suit case, all your clothes, all your money.
Cut the clothes at half and double the money, and
you're going to be in really good chick.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Carlos, Well, I'm not so pragmatic, so what I have
to say is a little different. No, before you go,
you always tell that, Larry. And what I do is
when I prepare and I have a group that will
be traveling with me regularly every two weeks or sometimes
three times in a month, I send letters, descriptions and

(01:57):
stories about the places that we will be so that
people will be prepared in their minds to enjoy the
wonders of the place that will be seeing.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
This is really good advice.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
And this is unique about Mars Columbus travel as well,
because you know, other groups put out materials, but the
materials that I see coming out of from the hosts
we have and other things is so complete, really good stuff.
It's really good materials of all kinds. Not only does
the office staff put out some good materials, but then

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we see many of the faculty actually sending out reading lists, pictures, explanations, everything,
and really take advantage of that. It'll mean a lot.
Everyone who goes with me that talks about that finds
that that is one of the highlights of the trip too.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
It's the preparation they get that's good advice. In fact, Dan,
you always established a drop box and even after the
trip is over, you of course spending most of your
tour in the Middle East to Holy then Carlos and
South America. So here is the Getaway Gurus absolute positively

(03:08):
over the top best travel advice. Unless you have to
go to a destination. I have to go to Hawaii
this year, I have to go to Europe this year.
Make a list and put your maybe top ten dream
list places that you want to go and then sit back,

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listen to the Travel show every week, talk to your
travel advisor at Morriscolumbus dot com and also sign up
for the Hot Travel Deal Update. And I promise you
that these deals are just gonna come floating all down
the river. And rather than say I have to do
this this year, make that list and be prepared to

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add to it and just watch for the deal to
come along. One of my favorite places is Hawaii. I
have a love affair with Hawaii. I have been there
so many times. You know. Some years ago I used
to commute to Hawaii twice a month and I did
that for several years, and my very first trip was

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in nineteen sixty six. I was born there, thank you
very much. And I you know, I grew up in
San Francisco. I told you that over the air. And
I used to cut school and go surfing down at
Steamers Lane in Santa Cruz, you know. And I had
the surfer haircut or the surfer jams, the kind of

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the longer shorts. You know, that were popular times. When
thank you, yes, David the statue, I always said, you know,
mike Langelo's statue. By the way, he was twenty six
years old when he did that, twenty three when he
did the Pieta, and he did it in three years.
Buffin said, I would like to go to the beach

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and look like David with a swimsuit on one time
in my life. I'm not a greedy man, although I
will say at sixteen I looked pretty darn goodness swimsuit.
That was a very long time ago. I went to
Hawaii and I spent a week surfing. I thought I
was really really cool. I wasn't, but I thought I was.
When you're sixteen hanging out with the surfers, sitting there

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I just learning to play the guitar. I'd taken a
few lessons, and somebody had a guitar, and I dazzled
the ladies with the one song that I knew only
half of it. But Hawaii holds a special place in
my heart. Now here's what's interesting about Hawaii. One hundred

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and thirty two islands and atolls. One hundred and thirty two.
But there are eight major islands. Let's see if we
can name them named some Hawaiians major islands. There's eight
of them that come to mind. Oh Wah, well, o Wahoo,
of course is the home of Honolulu. O Wahu Hawaii,
the big island Hawaii, and we call it the big

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island to differentiate from the Hawaiian islands. How about Maui, Kawaii, Molokaii, Lanai,
the mysterious, secretive forbidden island. You can't go there, it's
privately owned, Nihi How and Kaho Lave. Now Kaho Lave

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you don't want to go. Nih How you can't go,
although they do open up for a couple of special tours.
Famous for the puka shells and the boar hunting over
there is fantastic and some small deer, and they'll let
people come over and go hunting just to generate cash.
But Kaho Lave, you really don't want to go. It

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is not in use now, but it was used as
a Navy training bombing island. They blew it. They just
keep blowing it to san of the rings. Now here's
also what is the tall mountain in the world, Mount
Everest at twenty nine thousand and thirty two feet.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
Wrong.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
If you measure a mountain from its base, it's Mona
Kea in Hawaii because the base is under the water.
But where the mountain actually starts thirty three thousand, five
hundred feet almost forty five hundred feet taller than Mount Everest.

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And what's so fun over there is beaches. Now, what
do we like in Hawaii? We like a white sand beach,
blue ocean waters, palm trees, gentle trade winds blowing in
off the Pacific at a luau. All right, Well, in
Hawaii you have four different types of sand beaches. You

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have white sand, well, the black sand beach, red sand,
and green sand. Now it's not a fire cherry engine red,
but it's definitely red, kind of a pinkish shoe to it.
And then green, several green sand beaches from the secretions

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of the plants and everything. Just so much fun. And
did you know what is associated food wise with Hawaii, Well,
it would be the coconut and the pineapple. Neither one
of them is native or indigenous to Hawaii. They were
brought from South America. Correct, Well, certainly the pineapple was.

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Now I've got some advice. He here's some more free advice,
worth what you pay for it. When you are booking
a trip to Hawaii, I want you to follow these recommendations.
Number one, look for secret airfares. Now that's a term
I use. The actual industry term is a tour operator fair,

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and they are contract fares deeply discounted. But to a few,
a handful of tour offers, including Morris Columbus Travel. We
have these secret airfares, but you have to bundle them
with something. You can't sell air only because they don't
want that disclosed. So it's a car rental, even for
just two days. I know people will take the two

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day car rental, never even pick it up because the
whole package is less than the effers. That's number one.
Number two, make a decision, is it one island, two
or multiple. If you're there a week, stay on one island,
don't overplan, you want to enjoy it. Number three, be
aware of the evil resort fees which the Biden administration

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may try to get rid of. That's an interesting story there,
but typically these resort fees, which is just an add on,
is thirty to fifty dollars a day per room and
you get squat for it. Oh well, you can use
the pool, you can make unlimited local calls or extra
person charges. Number four. Book your activities before you go.

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And number five do you really need a rental car?
Because hotels typically charge forty to fifty dollars a day
for the parking of a car. If I need a
car and I'm in Waikiki, I don't get one at
the airport. I pick it up that morning in Waikiki,
I go around the island. I drop it off that night.

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So secret airfares. How many islands? Be aware of parking
and resort fees. Book your activities before you go, and
you really need a rental car? All that and more
on today's travel show Mason and Other Ball Helloha Travelo

(11:02):
Show No Kahoi I'm Larry Gelwicks. They get Away gur
and Welcome to the Travel Show. I'm joined by Dan
Hone and Carlos Feda, two of the travel experts that
will take you just about anywhere around the world. We
were talking about Hawaii and what a great place it is.

(11:23):
It's such a popular destination, and I think one of
my favorite foods there is simeon. Simon is very similar
to ram and it's kind of Hawaii's favorite noodle soup dish,
noodles in the broth with a variety of toppings, and
one of the most popular toppings in the bowl of

(11:46):
Simon in Hawaii is spam. The Hawaiians love spam. They
eat it with their eggs, they eat it and spam sandwiches,
they put it on pizza. I think maybe being out
in the sun that long did something to them. We
want to turn our attention to South America with Carlos
Feda or Argentinian Gaucho. You know, I'm pretty good in

(12:10):
South America. Carlos has forgotten more than I think I know.
It is. It is another Abraham upon us. But you know,
you were a university professor in Argentina and you've been
recognized by governments. You've won so many awards for your

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industry knowledge, so I'm going to I want to put
you to the test here. There's so many places to
see in South America, and the big, the big misunderstanding is, well,
I've been. I've been to Mexico. You know it's it
is so different the cultures. So I'm going to tie
you down to three must see there's thirty must see

(12:55):
destinations in South America, but I want you to tell
me about three why they are your personal favorites, and
a little bit of the history behind them.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Okay, My number one is Machu Picchu.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
Why this This is.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
The ruins, you know, perched on top of the mountains,
and you see these huge rocks which are the remains
of palaces gardens in this mountain, and you wonder where
did they get the stones and how did they polish
the stones to make this thing?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Him Bingham in nineteen eleven was there traveling to discover
where the Conquistadores traveled, and he ended up in what
today is Machu Picchu. So they said, well he was
the discoverer of Machu Piccher. Now he was not the discovered.
There were some people living in what today is as Calientest.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's the little town by the way. The Provian government,
in a moment of unbridled foolishness, changed the official name
from Calientes because of the hot the thermal springs there.
It is a delightful little town with and it catered
the tourists. You got lots of shopping and restaurants. They
changed it to Machu Picchu.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Well, but don't worry, because the every government makes a change,
and so they go from Machu Picchu to what was Calentus.
Work too much of pitcho, it doesn't matter. The interesting
thing is this when Hill and Bingam was there, he
took a lot of stones, skeletons of people that have
died there, that were buried there, rocks, and he took

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them to your university and they exhibited at the museum
for many many years.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
There was what was the.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Purpose about your Picchu? Then let's move on to number time.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
The story is that it was a shrine rather than.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
The priest live at the top. The priests, yeah, they were.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
The priests were there, you know, and they were The
inhabitants were very little, and the Inca used to visit
the place, so.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
You know, Machu Picchu is one of my favorite destinations.
You take the train down from Cusco through the Sacred
Valley and it's a dome train. Tell me another one
of your three tops.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Another one iss that's one of the wondrous of things.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Now that's yeah. You can view it both on the
Brazilian and Argentinian set. But I gotta tell you, even
though you're a native brazil Argentinian, the brazil side is, Oh,
the action is I would say, yes, it is. It
is two hundred and seventy five waterfalls. And when Eleanor
Roosevelt first saw Iguasue, what did she say? My poor Niagara?

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Now okay, now let's go on to number three.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
The number three would be Easter Island. It's a misteriious
that's part of Polynesia. U yes, but it's also part
of Chile.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
It belongs to Chile.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
But they speak Spanish, which is the official language, but
they also speak their own language, the Rapanui language.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You know what intrigues me about Easter Island is the Maai.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Then why's you know were built by some civilization there
and they're huge, you know, they're they're they're huge. Some
of them are standing and some of them are buried
under the ground. The island in itself is a ceries
of craters, the volcano.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
It's a volcano.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Very few people living there, but there are over nine
hundred MOAIs. And for our listeners, if you were to
see a picture of a moai, you would immediately recognize
that these elongated, weird shaped faces. But when kind of
modern civilization found them, they were mostly buried under the ground.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
They were and they and there and there.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
Some of them are standing and they look like sentinels
overlooking you know, the ocean. Now there's the cities of
them that are standing.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
What's your favorite food back home in Argentine steaks and
pasta and second steaks and pasta, third steaks, yes, now
and the pasta. Because your didn't your father immigrate from Italy? Yeah.
South America I call the undiscovered continent because people typically

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and I get this, typically go to Europe first. You know,
a lot of it has to do with roots, but
South America must be on your Absolutely, I've gotta go.
There's and what surprises people the culture. Although it's mostly
Spanish speaking, the culture is so very different in each country.

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You actually have countries whose official language is English, Spanish, Portuguese,
even som catch one in there, and Dutch and Dutch.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
But there are many languages that are ethnic languages, you
know that that live in the jungle's At Peru they
have their own language. In Brazil they have Portuguese, of course,
but they having Pernambuco, which where the Markuka comes. That's
the place where the Dutch settled.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
You can check out all of the South America tours
with Carlos and the other expert guides at Morriscolumbus dot com,
Morris Coolumbus dot com. Click on Escorted Tours and click
on South America. More coming your way. On the travel
show Your Globe Trotting with Me around the World, I'm

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Larry Gelwiz They get Away Guru, joined by Dan Hone
and Carlos Fida. The travel show is sponsored by Morris
Columbus Travel where you Always Travel More and pay Less
and Norwegian Cruise Line, the home of freestyle cruising. Dan
and Carlos. One of the great benefits of travel are

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the memories. Now I want to do a little exercise
with you. I'm going to ask you both a question
simultaneously you have two seconds to answer. All right, and
it's just two seconds. Tell me a Christmas gift you

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got three years ago? Not a clue, okay, but I
assume you got how about two years ago? Last year? No? Okay,
Now there's a point behind this because you got a tie.
You got a tie, Well, it's a tie. Okay. Now

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I'm going to ask you a second question, and you
have two minutes to answer. Excuse me too seconds to
answer it just top of mind awareness. I want you
to name a destination where as a child you went
on a vacation Germany, Pedagonia. Well, you know, why is
it that you can reach back so many years into

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your childhood and remember a trip, a travel, a vacation,
and yet something a year ago Christmas? We can't remember
the gifts. Now, I will tell you this, I'm not
diminishing Christmas gifts. A tie, a bicycle, a book, address,
all of these things. They're really nice, they're wonderful, but

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they're things where travel does something to your heart and
your soul. It stirs the very essence of your It
creates a memory, and that memory stays with you a lifetime.

Speaker 3 (20:59):
Well you know I mentioned Patagonia when I went to Patagonia.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
I think I was seventeen jacket. No, it's not a jacket.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
It's a region in Chilean.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
For me, that is a very spiritual place, Silence, beautiful mountains,
Glaciers is a land that is a miracleized is the
part of the creation. But the most important thing is
how you feel when you are there alone, nobody's around you.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
And all of these memories too, Dan, you and I've
talked a lot about your travels for decades in the
Holy Land. See, these are memories, bicycles, books, books, They're wonderful,
but they're things. And so I look back over a
lifetime of travel. I'm the ultimate travel junkie, and I

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have so many memories. One of the more interesting ones
happened in Russia. Now I love Russia, the people, the government.
That's a whole different story, you know. And so we
went there on a cruise. Now, typically the Baltics include

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two or three days in Saint Petersburg. And Saint Petersburg
is a fabulous city. Peter the Great Catherine, you have,
you know, the Nevskaprowski, which is like the main drag
is like fifth Avenue, the Winter Palace, it is a
beautiful and the subway system is an absolute work of art.

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And so we went there, Kathy and I and another couple.
We got off the ship and we had three days there,
and we had a private guide and driver. You know,
the driver's a man. Ludmila was the woman. Now, she
was taken back by some of the things that I

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wanted to do. For example, I said, I want to
go stand in a bread line Latour and I said,
I want the experience. I'm here to experience Russian. So
she took me to this bakery and you had to
stand in the line that went outside and down the block,
and you go in and you pay your money, and

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then you go outside again to the other side and
get in the line and you go up there and
you get your wonderful warm Russian bread. And we went
to a grocery store where there's like nothing on the shelves.
And you know, my first impression was, what were we
ever afraid of? They cannibalize every car and truck, airplanes, trains.

(23:44):
You know, I don't fly within Russia. I'll take the train.
I will not fly there. I just I don't have
confidence in their safety.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
No good.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Internationally, they're okay because they have I still don't fly
them for a lot of other reasons, but you know,
they have to be international safety stand but internally, so
we're doing all these things. We go to the Stroganov Square,
run into a fellow. She introduces this to the kind

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of the security guard at Stroganov Square, explains that we're
from America, and she's translated, oh do you know my uncle,
he lives in New York City. Yeah, yeah, we know
Vladimir anyway, So then I knew through some research that
they have a unique military equipment system. More we're talking

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about the real stuff, and think of it like an
RII type store, camping gear for the citizens, you know,
tense clothing. But some of them have a private security
area with guards where you have to have military papers
to get not weapons, but clothing and gear, and you

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have to show your orders there. So I said to
lude Mila, who spoke excellent English, I want to go
to one of these stores, and I happen to have
the address. She says, well, you can't go there. I said,
yes I can. She says, well, they will not sell
you anything, and I said, well, let's just go and
find out. She didn't want to go. She's very nervous

(25:23):
about it. But anyway, we go there and we're milling around,
you know, the RII type store, and I said, okay,
go over to him. There was the guard there and
he was behind the counter, had a buzzer door. There's
an alarm light that goes on if anybody opens the door,
which is automatically locked. Anyway, I said, now, I want

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you to go over and tell him that I want
to go in the back and I want to pick
up some gear and clothing. But tell him this, I
have American dollars. That's the best word it is. So
she walks over there and he they're talking. Suddenly he

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just jerks his head, you know, and is looking at
me and he is eyeing me upside and down. And
then he says something to her and he's billowing with
a cigarette smoke. And she's walking back her head down,
shaking her head. And I said, well, at least I tried.
I didn't get in. And she goes, I do not understand.

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He said, wait, he will go in the back, leave
the door unlocked, turn off the alarm. Cathy is saying,
you are stupid. Well, she didn't use that word. She
used foolish. Anyway, it says, don't do this. Don't do this,
you're gonna get arrested. They're going to send you to
Siberia and your children will be orphans and I'll be

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a widow. And anyway, so I walk over there, and
you know, I just kind of wait. There's no one
at the counter. I'm ready for the alarm to go off.
And I turned the handle of the door, open the
door up, and there's no alarm there. And did you
ever see the movie Hunt for Red October? Yes, you

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remember where the American sub commander goes down into Red
October and no words are spoken. The Russians are smoking
and they and they are just looking at each other
stare down. That's exactly what it was. He was sitting
there smoking and just looking at me, and I understood there.

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I didn't say anything, and there's probably silence for twenty
thirty seconds tops, but that seems like an eternity. And
he goes, you have American dollness, and I said, yes,
what you want, that's all I said. Now, you know,

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this was like twenty five years ago. So I told
he brought an entire general's outfit, and I said, no, no, no,
I don't want that. And so I got some hats.
I got a twenty five year KGB commemorative pocket watch
I got you know, in fact, in the Hunt for
Red October, you see a looks like a star, four

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pointed star. That's the pin of the Submarine Corps of Russia.
I got one of those, and I'm saying in the movie,
that's the real pin. I got belt. You know those
fur hats that have fold up on the side. I
got one for my son, my teenage son, who had
the big hammer and sickle. It was quite a hit

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up at Brighton when he would go skiing, you know.
So I got all this gear and he had these
big like shopping bags. I got two shopping bags of
hats and belts and metals and stuff KGB. How cool
is that a KGB watch? Anyway, so I say how much.
He's looking me over and he goes and I knew

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he was going to go high, but he surprised me.
He goes six dollars and I said done, and he
looked at me and you could tell the look on
his face. I should have gone for eight, you know. Anyway,
So I pack it on walking out, and Mila's face
was classic. She's just unbelievable. So we did that. Now

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it's time to get back to the ship. And when
you get off the ship, the Russian army is there.
When you go back on you have to do the
X ray, and the Russian Army, not the cruise people
let you back through security. Well I'm a pretty friendly guy.
This was on day three. I started talking to the
officer in charge and his name was Vladimir, and you know,

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we just kind of talking back and forth. And we're
going up and a lot of people had bought knockoff
fake stuff, you know, and they just confiscated and then
they resell it on the street. It's a con game.
I have the real stuff. What's gonna happen? Kathy is
now positive I'm going to be arrested. And so we

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get up there and I know something about human nature
and yeah, and so I went over and this like
buck private opens up the back and the look on
his face recognizing this is authentic, It's like, where did
you get that? And he says something to the to

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the officer in charge. Well, I'd already given the officer
twenty bucks and I gave him the twenty bucks and
I said, I want these bags to go on the ship.
He said, okay, you know, he didn't care. He said
something in Russian waved us on. We went back on
the ship and I didn't end up in Siberia, but
one of the class. See, these are experiences that I'll

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remember a lifetime. How I bribed my way out of
Russia and to this day I still have that. And
you should see my son in his Russian hammer and
sickle hat, you know, teasing the slopes at Brighton. Well,
so much fun that we have, and I've got a
lifetime of stories like this. Well, when we come back,

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I want to talk about some popular foods in both
South America and the Holy Land right here on the
Travel Show. Welcome to the Travel Show. I'm Larry Gelwicks

(31:43):
to get Away Guru, joined by Dan Hone and Carlos Fieda,
and we want to give you a very big shout
out and thank you. You are the star of the show.
I mean without you, we don't have a show. In fact,
we don't even have a job, you know, And I
never take that for granted that you folks make all
of this possible, So God bless you and keep listening,

(32:09):
you know, Fellas, one of the most memorable parts of
any trip is the food, the dining, and it's fun
to try not only familiar foods but new foods. You know.
One of the things we always did as a family
when I'd come back from the far corners of the world,
I would bring a CD of native music that we

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would listen to as a family, and we would prepare
at dinner with typical native foods of that country. The
kids really loved it. When we do Italy, let's go
get a pizza, you know. But Dan, you have lived
in the Middle East for some ten years. You got
your graduate degree at Israeli University. I mean that's kind

(32:55):
of your love is Israel and the whole of that, Egypt, Jordan.
What are some of your favorite foods from the Middle East?

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Well, of course, one that I know you enjoy as
well as shwarmas sale.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
And the difference is.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Well, a shwarma either has beef or a turkey now
or lamb in it that's on a skewer, so that
it's made so that they cut it off as it's barbecued.
You might say, shave it off, and then that has
types of salad sauces in it to heat other things,

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whereas the falaffa is made of garbanzo beans, again with
salads and things. By the way, it's not peter like
you have here in this country.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
You know, I don't either. I don't think that there's
anything better when it comes right out of the oven.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
When it's puffed n y as it comes out. My
wife knows how to make that.

Speaker 1 (33:55):
By the way, let me be the judge of that.
Invite me over what else? What are the foods?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, of course there's the famous Palestinian food that's mook laba,
and that word means upside down. You take a huge
pot and you have rice that you put in it.
You also put a few pine nuts other things as
you want, and then you have chicken in the mook laba.
It's not the one that's mansif, which has got the

(34:24):
lamb in it. And what you do is you turn it,
you cook it all together. It's and you put goat
cheese on it and everything, uh, and you turn it
upside down and so the pot shape it's still in
the shape of the pot. And of course when you
eat this you have to have shirok sharrock is bread
that's cooked on a taboon or a large ovens. You

(34:48):
might say, oh, suck a dome psych a dome that's
over hot coals in a hot fire.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Do you know who does that very well? That type
of bread is the Nazareth Village. Oh, yes, we often
go the and I will host Holy Land tours and
Dan takes some himself. And the ones we really like
is when we both go together. But we visit the
Nazareth Village, which is a recreation of what a village
in Nazareth, the childhood home of Joseph and Mary and

(35:19):
then Jesus later when they came out of Egypt. But
to have a lunch there where all the food's carlos
are from the first century, what Jesus may have eaten.
And they do a bread in that very similar fashion,
very quickly wrap it up. What else do you like? Well?

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I mentioned mansef and the charak we've described. But when
you eat mansef with the rice and the goat cheese
on it and the lamb and everything, you reach in
with a piece of this unleving bread, if you will,
and you grab it into a ball and then you
pop it in your mouth. And by the way, this

(35:55):
is served in the real serving of it is served
on a large plate that is, you know, about two
feet wide, and it's piled up about that high above.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
It with the rice and everything. That's delicious, good stuff.
All right, let's go to South America.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
Well, in Argentina, of course I like steaks, but I
also like lamb. In Paragonia where we will be eventually,
we will taste lamb, I.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Thought for Argentina, sa sadle.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Well, that's that's that's a saddle, that's a that's a
that's a typical saddle. In fact, they cook it outside
and it's grell so and it's delicious. Another food in
South America that I like is the cevich in Peru,
which is a marinated fish, fish or seafood in general,

(36:50):
marinated with with lemon.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
That is delicious.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
And the last one that I like and I really
prefer and I love it is the mochika in Brazil.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
Oh, I was hoping you'd say, you know, that's one
of my favorite nisi and it's kind of a more
of a tradition of northern Brazil.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yes, in Salvador Bay, that's the typical food, and of
course it's rice, but they make a sauce with a
shrimp and it's just an amazing dish.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Well that makes me salivate. I'm ready to go eat now.
I think some of my favorite memories was a Chateaubrion
beef cut in Switzerland. But take me to Thailand or
China and some of the food. Actually, the Thai food
in Thailand is better than here. But the Chinese food

(37:43):
in the USA is better than in China. It just
really is. I remember asking a concierge at a hotel
in Soul, Korea for a great Korean restaurant. I said,
I want the best food, and he said, we'll go
to America. I laughed, I said, no, really said, really,
America has all the best chefs and the best food. Well, listen,

(38:06):
we come back for our number two of the Travel Show.
Welcome back to the Travel Show, Our number two, the
best two hours in the radio. I'm Larry Gelwicks, the
Getaway Guru, joined by the Argentinian Gaucho himself, Carlos Feda,

(38:26):
and our new Bedouin traveler wanderer Dan Hone that just
fits you on his coming it does he does. He's
done some safaris, going through Waddie Rum there in Jordan.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
This last spring, two hours on the camels. Fantastic, unbelievable, unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Listen, you know we're talking about favorite places, and Africa
has an appeal to me. There's a rawness, the primal life,
a daily struggle of life and death, of birth and survival.
And if you're going to do an African safari, and

(39:09):
you know, for most people to once in a lifetime event,
not for me, but for most people, I recommend Kenya
only in the months of July, August and September for
so called Great migration. It's a true national geographic event.
Now you can witness the great migration. It's like the

(39:32):
whole herd of animals is on the move. One and
a half million wilderbees, half a million zebras, all are
on the move in search of water. They'll return, you know,
for birthing and all that. But it's only in Kenya
and Tanzania. And this is trustillary time. Go to Kenya,

(39:53):
the infrastructure, everything about the experience. You know, Nongre and
Gore Crater is quite famous. You know, that's not in Kenya,
but Kenya offers fifty game parks. Not one of them
has a fence, and of those fifty, there are four
big ones, the most important, the most famous. We do

(40:17):
regular tours to Africa in July, August and September. We
have some others, you know, there's something special about Africa
every season, but we focus on July, August and September.
I take one at least one every year, and I
so look forward to it. But it's because of that migration.

(40:39):
Now these four game parks. You have Amboseli over in
the far eastern corner of the country. We tend to
be more on the west. And the big three that
we visit is Samburu, Old Pajetta and of course the Serengetti,
the Masai Mara Masai are actually a tribe. They're rather tall.

(41:00):
You see them in their celebration jumping up and down.
And then the Mara is a description of the country
meaning spotted. You fly over it and you see clumps
of trees. It looks like a polka dot, you know.
But the mar is a river. And one of the
things you want to do is know the lodges that

(41:23):
you stay in. We stay in spectacular lodge. I'll give
you an example. Up on the Serengeti, right on the
bend of the mar River. All the animals are hanging
out there and there's a big overview to it, a
balcony looking down on them. And we typically do three
game park drives a day, six fifteen, six thirty when

(41:48):
the animals are moving the most active, and we're back
nine thirty for breakfast, leave about eleven, come back at
one thirty for lunch. We'll leave at three point thirty
four and come back at dusk. Now, for example, we
stay at the Ashville Lodge up on the Mara the Serengetti.
Once we're in our vehicles, and these vehicles have the

(42:10):
pop up top, we'll seat eight. We never put more
than four because you want to be able to move
around get your photos. Unless it's a family or a
group of friends that request, well with five of us,
there's six of us and we want to be together,
then we'll put them in. But that's your call, not ours.
We don't schedule more than four in a vehicle. And

(42:33):
for example, on the Serengetti, once you're in your vehicle,
you're outside the gates in thirty seconds or less and
you're looking for animals. Where the other lodges, and they're
wonderful lodges. It's hour the two hour drive each way.
They missed the early morning and they missed the evening one.

(42:56):
And you know, you can get quite busy during the day.
But there's something about Africa. My wife was hesitant to
go because she thought it would all be you know,
lions eating and they bambi, they have to eat. But
I remember this one time where we were at a

(43:21):
lake and it was the stillness of Africa. You can
hear the stillness, and we're in our vehicle and there's
just this ever so slight rumbling. The ground is shaky,
just barely what's coming. And up over the up over

(43:42):
the hill that was probably four hundred feet from us,
three hundred feet both size of the football field, comes
a herd of three or four hundred buffalo cape buffalo,
not to be confused with water buffalo. They're very and
they come and they surround the vehicle, no danger, They

(44:06):
wallow in the mud, they drink, and they're with us
for about half an hour, and then they move on
and the stillness that you can hear and feel returns,
and then suddenly we see a herd of about thirty elephants,
including a baby that our guide said is about a
week old. And it's a nurturing mother patriarchal society. Everybody

(44:30):
with their trunks just kind of pushing the baby along,
one week old and on his journey through life. These
are the type of experiences that you have in Africa.
And then a sunset at night and just the And
then what's really cool is at night you're in your
lodge and you're you know, doing whatever, sleeping, reading, and

(44:55):
you hear the animals. You hear the hippos bellowing, the lions.
Did you know that you can hear a fully grown
male adult lion roar up to five miles away, And
let me tell you that grabs your attention. One of
my favorite areas as far as memories, has to be Thailand.

(45:17):
Now you've heard me say, if it weren't for my
kids and grandkids, Kathy and I would live in Thailand.
It's the people, the culture, the food, everything about it.
There's a politeness that you feel, you absolutely feel. And
as you go into other Southeast Asian countries, which I
dearly love to borrow a phrase from the movie, you

(45:38):
feel a disruption in the forest. There's something different going
on there, you can feel it. But there is a
calm in Thailand and the politeness. You know, they greet
you with their hands pressed together just below their chin
in a prayer mode, and they'll have a bow greets you.

(46:00):
So I come home and I introduce this to my
children as you should greet your father with a bow.
And it's called a wai. That's no relation to the school.
It's called a waih Dad, you show dumb so didn't go.
You know, I think of Thailand. You have three areas
of Thailand. You have the midlands where Bangkok and that

(46:24):
whole area. Then up north it's the foothills of the Himalayas.
The best elephant experience is up north in the cheng
Dao valleys. What I like just outside of Changmi you
have the Golden Triangle, you have chang Rai, you have
the botanical gardens of the royal family. But down south

(46:46):
you gotta love it, baby. It is the islands you have.
And the Thai word for island is co And so
you have Ko Samui, Ko Krabbi, Ko pouquette, and many
many others. Cat happens to be my personal favorite, and
they're what I like to do. And this is the
land of the King and I And by the way,

(47:07):
here's you're a Middle East guy. Who was the pharaoh
in the in the movie with Charlton Heston the Ten Commandments?
And who was the king? And the King and I
Yule Brenner, you know, and he will always be Pharaoh
to me. And well, let me ask you this. I'll
come back to Pontong Bay later. You and I have

(47:28):
had a lot of discussion. Was that i'mun Hugtep or
Ramsey's the pharaoh at the time of Moses.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
Well, my personal preference and archaeologists are now moving the
same direction is that it was actually during the technoal
side period in Ammanhotep's time. That's Almanhotep the third approximately
that time period, rather than Ramsey's which comes much later
two centuries.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Almost well, you know, and it's a difference of from
the fifteenth century to the thirteenth century approximately.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
When the Ten Commandments being made, everyone knew the name Ramses,
very few knew who an Amen Hotel was.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Yeah, you know, you and I have also had a discussion.
Moses may not have been his full name. You have
like tut Moses, ah Moses, so that is the name
that we identify with, and Charlton Heston will always be Moses.
And the best part of the movie is Moses, Moses.

(48:31):
Remember that and then when the Green Death comes in
to the city. That's all real cool. Well, so many
great memories. When we come back, I want to tell
you about one of the greatest experiences of my life
when I actually lived with the Aborigines and went deep
dive into their culture.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Here on the Travel Show. Welcome back to the Travel Show.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I'm Larry Gelwicks, the Getaway Guru, joined by Dan Hoade
and Carlos Vida, two of the great travel experts and
two great friends. The Travel Show is sponsored by Morris
Columbus Travel, where you always travel More and pay Less
and Norwegian Cruise Line, the home of free style cruising. Well,

(49:29):
I'm often asked about memorable travel experiences. You know, an
event or an experience that completely changes one's life. And
I've been traveling my whole life. I told you it's
the kid growing up in San Francisco, I used to
go down to the wharf and watch the ships push
out and sail under the Golden Gate Bridge, dreaming that

(49:52):
maybe someday I'd go somewhere. When I got my driver's license,
I went out to San Francisco International Airport SFO, and
there's no security back then. Anybody could walk around, and
I'd watched planes land and take off. No jetways. Everything
was stairs. And as I got older, my nightly reading

(50:14):
was National Geographic and a World Atlas. I just look
at maps and dreamed that maybe someday I could go somewhere.
I've had so many life changing experiences. One of the
most memorable is when I was a young man, just
barely out of college Okay, and I went to Australia.

(50:36):
I had a friend. He was a rugby teammate from
South Africa who had made friends with an older fellow,
probably in his early fifties, whose name was John Lord.
In Australia now, John was a true crocodile dundee, I mean.
And he lived up in what's called Kakadu Country up
near Darwin top End we call it, and they took

(50:59):
He had a massive cattle ranch and it was taken.
He was compensated to put it together what we would
call like a reservation. It was a homeland for the
indigenous Aborigines of Australia, and I was introduced to him,

(51:21):
kind of made friends, and I wanted a real outback experience.
He asked me if I'd lived with the Aborigines, and
this was correspondence, and we got it worked out. So
I fly to Australia. I go diving on the Great
Barrier if I'm a scuba diver, and did some other things,
some hiking and Lamington National Park just outside of Brisbane

(51:46):
teased the waves that surfers paradise, and then flew up
to Darwin. I get picked up and we go out
maybe two hundred miles deep into the outback, and we
meet a family, mom, dad, the boy who's about fourteen,
the girl who's about ten. And he drops me off.

(52:09):
He stays the first night. Dad spoke a tiny bit
of English, Mom spoke none. The kids spoke passable English
because they're supposed to be in school, but they never are.
They'd never done anything like this. This was not a
tourist event. This was the real thing. And then I
remember he left and I lived with this Aboriginal family.

(52:32):
I hunted with them, I dressed like them, I'll just
leave it at that, dressed no details, but not when
the mama or the girls were around, not that anyway.
So but I hunted with a spear. The only difference
what I wore. They went barefoot, and this was I mean,

(52:54):
we went native, and I wore some sand. My feet
were hard enough. But I hunted with the spears. Terrible.
But we're out one time and we brought down this
wild boar. I actually took an axe and chopped its
tusks off, boiled them, gave them away as gifts. But

(53:16):
it was getting dark and we were about a mile
from our camp. We'd just slept out, you know, and
so we said, it's going to be dinner. It's a
wild boar, you know, ham sandwiches, and so we say, well,
come back tomorrow and get it. We go back the
next day it's gone, and he looks at the tracks.
He says, about a fourteen footer a crop came out

(53:37):
of the BILLI bog and took it. We we would
catch these go on the lizards with our hands, not iguana,
but go Ona. And they're dumber than bricks. You find
their nesting hole and you just kind of straddle it
and everybody else beat the bush, even with you standing that,
they run straight to the nesting hole and you whack

(53:58):
them and you throw them into the fire. You don't
gut them or anything to stow it. Right in the fire.
They puff up black. You chop the tail off and
pop it open like a pea pod, and you take
the tail off, which is like string cheese. Well doesn't
taste like string cheese, of course, it tastes like chicken,
but it has that that you know that. There you go.

(54:20):
And I had so many experiences and then I had
to go out on dream time by myself. Now I
did the whole thing. I was covered, you know, partially
in white paint and all of that. And but what
I did. So John comes back and we drive and
he drops me off and we're two hundred miles. We're

(54:41):
four wheeling it where there's no roads, and he says,
he gives me a topographical map. I did have a
water purification pump and a compass and a map. That's it.
And I had a backpack and I'm sleeping out in
the Some of the most poisonous snakes and spiders in

(55:04):
the world live out there. And that's what I had
to face, and so he says, he puts an X
on the map, and in so many days, he says,
I'll pick you up here. And I remember him. Now,
I didn't have the safety of the Aboriginal family. They
could you would just look. They could tell you what

(55:26):
animals had been walking. They knew how to trap, they
knew how to hunt. I was trying to pick up
some of those skills. And they have two types of
crocs there. They have a fresh eeet and a salty.
The fresh you have a more narrow snout. They're a
little bit smaller. They probably won't kill you. The others
chew on your leg. But the salties are the twenty footers,

(55:47):
and they live in salt water, fresh water or brackish.
They're mean, they're nasty. They will stalk you. They will
come out because they can smell you and hunt you.
A very dangerous animals. So I'm in this situation. He
drops me off. I'm going to where I'm going to
meet him, and I come to a river, and this

(56:08):
is the apex of the story. I'm in Crock Country.
How do I get across this river? Now, when we
come back, I'm going to tell you how I got
across the river in Crock Country. It was a life
changing event. It changed me forever, and I taught this
principle to missionaries. I'll tell you that more here on

(56:32):
the Travel Show. Welcome back to the Travel Show. I'm

(56:58):
Larry Gelwick's the Getaway, joined by the intrepid Bedouin himself,
Dan Hone and our Argentinian gaucho Carlos Feda. All right,
let me finish that story, and then Dan, I want
you to take us to the Holy Land, to Israel,
Egypt and Jordan. So there I am in the middle
of the outback, two hundred miles from Darwin. Most of it.

(57:20):
John had dropped me off. We were just four wheeling it.
No roads, no nothing. I'm now without my support group
of the Aboriginal family. John's not there. I'm gonna pick
you up. And I remember as he drove off, I
had this sinking feeling like what have you done? You know,

(57:43):
there's actually kind of a slogan. It's called dumb ways
to die, Dumb ways to die. But I had to
do it. So I come to this river and I
would say it was probably about oh forty feet across
thirty feet across that's about what I'm in the middle

(58:06):
of crop country. So this is where I learned the
FIO principle. F I, oh, this is the life changer.
There's no helpline, there's no Google, there's no nobody to ask.
And so what I did, and it was clear water,

(58:27):
and that was, I mean fairly clear. Had it been muddy,
I don't know what I would have done, because those
crocs like to lay on the bottom and you step
on them, and you know, you lose a foot in
the leg. So the first thing I did is there
was like bamboo in the area, and some of the
bamboo is fifteen feet tall or more. I started chopping
down bamboo and I made these long poles and I probed.

(58:51):
It was probably about thirty feet across. I started probing
as far as I could the bottom. Then I got rocks,
and I was like a shot put, you know, not
small rocks, big rotch that I would heave at like
a shot put to disturb the water. And then it's
time to go. So I take the backpack off and

(59:14):
you hold it in front of it. If there's a
charge from a croc, you put the backpack out and
it'll take it first and then you, you know, hopefully
take your chances. Yeah. Yeah, So I take the backpack
off and I'm about halfway across, and I hear the
unmistakable splash of a croc, not sliding into the water,

(59:38):
but going off a It's not loud, but it's unmistakable.
And I turn and I see, oh, it was probably
about a twelve thirteen footer and it came and then
turned the other way. You know, had it been hungry,
I would have had real problems. And have you ever

(01:00:00):
seen cartoons where people lifted up and their legs are
going as this boom, you know, like that, It's like, oh,
you're racing across this river. And I got to the
other side. But I've thought about this many times, that
we face situations in life that figure it out. You

(01:00:22):
have to figure it out, and you get I did all.
I did everything that I could, and it you know,
I just had to figure it out. Now, I said,
I taught this to missionaries. I had the unbelievable pleasure
of presiding over a mission for the church that we

(01:00:42):
attend and oversaw seven hundred and thirty missionaries in our
three years in the California Fresno Mission. And missionaries. You
gotta love them, you know, even religion aside. They're eighteen
years old, months out of high school and they they
give it all up, lay it all on the line.

(01:01:04):
But they think their mission president is the great Wizard
of Oz, the all knowing, the all seeing Oz. And
many times they would come with me and we discussed
their question and we had an expression in our mission
that was, fel figure it out. You go to the Lord,

(01:01:24):
build your area after the manner that he will show you.
We can take you know what we have, but do
it after the manner. And to this day we finished
our service in California in twenty fourteen. To this day,
those missionaries and their jobs at home talked about feel

(01:01:44):
feel fi own. So that was a life changing event
for me. I face situation just like you folks do.
We all face hardships. Go feel figure it out, counsel
with the Lord, figure it out, and solve any problem
after the manner that he will show you. Anyway, Dan,

(01:02:05):
I want you to take you. That was a great experience,
you know, and can you just imagine me hunting with
a spear. I was horrible. I was very much no coming.
You could have been eaten alive. You know, there was
one time where I had a sense where I actually

(01:02:30):
went swimming in a hole that looks it was so hot,
jumped in and I was in there for a short
time and I had a sense, get out, get out now,
and I did. And I never saw anything, but I
got that sense, you know. Anyway, Let's go to the
Holy Land. Dan. As I've said before, you lived there

(01:02:50):
for ten years. You got your graduate degree from Israeli University.
You're the smartest man that I have ever met. And
I met a lot of people on all things in
the Holy Land. First of all, what is the Holy Land?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Or you mentioned it as you started this particular segment.
It includes Egypt, Jordan, Israel. You know, there's as many
sites in Jordan as there is an Israel, just people
are unaware of it. But it's part of the Holy
Land itself, even though it's divided into nations today. Also Israel.
We ought to mention that fairly. We ought to say

(01:03:24):
that it's also Palestinian authority aias the West Bank, Jericho, Jericho, Bethlehem, Nablis,
which is the ancient city of Shakhem where the Samaritans
are to this day, and now one of the things
is is when people are traveling, a lot of times
they're not quite sure what there is to see in

(01:03:46):
these countries, and Israel is one of those places. Israel
and these areas of the Holy Land is one of
those places that you don't go just on your own
if you've never been there.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
No, you'd miss it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
You'd miss a lot of things. Not that you wouldn't
still have a great experience, I'm not saying that, but
there's so much more you could do if you have
someone who knows the lay of the land, where sites are.
Because it's not like say going to Rome. You can
read in a book, you can go see the forum,
read about the Pantheon. You can do those things, the
coliseum and stuff. But in Israel, yes, you can see

(01:04:20):
the amount of olives, Yes you can.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
You can walk the old city the Old City. Oftentimes
you don't even know what you're seeing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
Yeah, a lot of times you walk right through and
miss them. And I think one of the questions that
a lot of people have as well, then what are
the most important places see? I think that's a personal issue,
but there are some things that are very key. For instance,
I think that for those that are Catholic, particularly there's

(01:04:48):
there's the Via della Rosa. There's the church Sepulcher, which
is considered the very navel of the earth to them,
the Harmess Sharif as we call it, the temple Man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
How about Caijury of Philippi or North. Yeah, oh, that's Josen.
But that is where Peter, according to Catholic tradition, was
named as the first pope. That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
And so for Catholics and things Bethlehem Church and Nativity,
things like that are very significant to them. But I've
also found, because I have Catholics who travel with me,
and I've taken groups of various religions over there, that
they also want to go to a place like the
Garden Tomb, not because they necessarily believe one way or
the other that that's an authentic site, but the visual

(01:05:39):
image of it changes their lives. A lot of people
go to Nazareth, but never Nazareth village where you've got,
as you mentioned earlier, a village that is recreated based
on archaeology the way it was two thousand years ago,
the time when Christ was raised as a young boy
there as a technion, and so north south east west

(01:06:00):
of Israel. Every place you go. It took me three
hours one time to go twenty feet looking at the
wall with an archaeologist.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
You know, I've been to Israel more times than I
can count. It's my privilege to I've led tours there myself.
My graduate studies included Hebrew and Coptic, Coptic being one
of the Egyptian languages. The best tours are when you
and I take it together. Yeah, absolutely the best. And

(01:06:33):
as many times as I've been out on the Sea
of Galilee and we always stop the boat, it always
affects me, dan.

Speaker 2 (01:06:42):
Or it does me too. Another place I like is
a gude and wilderness. You know, we just come off
the road there and go up to see Saint Coociba
or Saint George's monastery hanging over the cliffs. But we're
standing actually on the road to say your frequented. Yeah,
I mean, it's not somewhere else, it's right there that
you're sending on. And I used to take my sons

(01:07:05):
up there because we're fifteen minute drive in those days,
not these days, but in those days it's fifteen minutes
from my house and I'd get there at four o'clock
in the afternoon, and that's the time when the shepherds
begin to call the sheep together four four point thirty
depends on the time of year, but at any rate,
all these sheep are just intermixed with each other, scattered across.

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And I shouldn't say sheep, they're mostly goats. But as
they're out there, suddenly you hear the sound of a flute.
It's completely quiet, and suddenly the sound of a flute
begins playing. Then another flute and another, and all of
a sudden you'll see the goats just separate and sheep,
and they'll separate into benches, and they form a V

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shape behind the shepherd and the lead ram.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Let me mention two places in our last two minutes
of this segment that always affect me. One is up
on the sea of a Galile. It's called Primacy of
the Rock Saint John chapter twenty one, where the Savior
asks Peter, you know, lovest thou me more than these

(01:08:10):
yes in three times? That just does something to me.
The other place is actually in Jordan. We always talk about,
you know, Ahman or jar Ash or Petra. It's Mountain Nebo.
That's where Moses stood looking into the Promised Land, knowing
that he would never get there. But Dan, every time

(01:08:32):
I go to Mountain Nebo, I feel something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Yeah. And there's another two places I want to take
you sometime if you go to Jordan with me. One
is and I just discovered this recently is the place
of Elijah where he then hid out. And it's the
very land that he was born and raised in. And
he hides in a cave with a stream that's still

(01:08:59):
got the same name to day as it did thirty
five hundred years ago, and are actually about three thousand
years ago, but at any rate. And the other place
is the place where the Savior was baptized on the
jordan side, because.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
That's the bar. Yes, it's on the Jordanians Jordanian side. Well,
you know, so many things to consider. You can look
at all of the Morris Columbus Holy Land tours. Those
with Dan and I and the other guides are fantastic.
We recommend any of them without regervation. Just simply go
to Morriscolumbus dot com, click on Escorted Tourists and click

(01:09:37):
on Holy Land. More coming on the travel show. You're
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(01:10:21):
speaking of cruising, guys, we're not talking about State Street.
We're talking about the Seven Seas. And there are questions
that one should ask before booking the cruise. Number one
is the cruise a destination or an experience cruise. Let
me explain what I mean. A destination is my primary

(01:10:45):
interest is a geographic historical destination. I want to see
the British Isles. Well, I'm not going to book the Caribbean,
you know. Or an experienced cruise is I want to
have a great experience. I want to go to a
cool destination, a fun destination, but just getting away and

(01:11:08):
having a great experience. I'm going to find a great deal.
That's what some years ago Kathy and I did on
our fortieth wedding anniversary, we decided to go to on
a cruise. I got to tell you, it was kind
of weird not having a group there. I felt this
need to walk around the ship and organize people. But
so we could go to the Mexican River or Hawaii,

(01:11:29):
the care We could go anywhere on a cruise because
Oslani it was a good destination, but our motivation was experienced.
We found an Eastern Caribbean. So are you looking primarily
at a destination or experience? Secondly, is the cruise adults
only meaning eighteen years of age of older like Virgin
cruises or is it family friendly? You want to check

(01:11:52):
out the port times and are you tying up to
a pier or a doc where you just walk off
or do you have to use the tender boat? I
personally don't care for the tender It's a necessary evil
at times. I shouldn't call it evil, but it is.
But on the pork times, what time am I there?

(01:12:14):
I remember one Alaska crews I saw you can only
have one big cruise ship at a particular glacier at
a time. They get a permit and it had glacier
viewing at six am. That's when they got their permit. Well,
why would you want to do something like that. You're
not even up at that time. Now you want to

(01:12:35):
know the size of the ship. Yes, size does matter
when it comes to picking your cruise ship. You have
the mega ships, you have the smaller ships. You can
get into some that have seven eight hundred people, one
thousand people or most cruise ships are in that twenty
five hundred to four thousand category. Although Dan, you and

(01:13:01):
I were looking at the Wonder of the Seas or
the Icon of the Seas some time ago. The Wonder
of the Seas will hold six thousand people, the Icon
of the Seas ten thousand people. Disney's having a ten
thousand passenger ship come available. Now you got to decide

(01:13:26):
what you want. There's no right or wrong. The bigger
ships have more amenities, more activities, more things, more dining options.
But you also there are three football fields in length,
and so you just pick your personal preference. Now you
want to ask yourself about the cabin category. And if
you get an ocean view, now an inside. I used

(01:13:50):
to I tell people I just to see if they're listening.
They say, now the inside has no windows or doors,
and they'll if they just nod their head and say, yes,
I know they're not really listening. You do have a door,
but yet inside no windows. An ocean view will have
a porthole on the older ships, a picture window on

(01:14:12):
the newer ships. A balcony is self explanatory, the entire
outside walls, floor to ceiling, sliding glass doors, and then
you have the Carlino's feet especial, the suits and penthouse.
All right, that's what I have, Thank you very much,
Augustus Meal. But when you get a window a balcony,

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the question you ask is it obstructed, partially obstructed or unobstructed?
You want to settle that. And lastly, what is the
target audience? Every good product service has a target clientele.
Now they will in most cases take just about anybody,

(01:14:58):
but who are they targeting? And so, if you want
to know the target audience of anything in travel, a resort,
a hotel, of vacation, a cruise, look at the photos
in their brochure and website. Who are they trying to
appeal Like, for example, you go with Regent sevens, He's

(01:15:19):
very upscale. It's an upscale country club. Look, people fifty
five years of age and older go to Disney cruise.
You're going to see a bunch of kids. They'll take
they'll take anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Great place for honeymoon. It is well.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
I actually I actually had a caller once asked me
about a cruise ship recommendation for a honeymoon. And he
was in twenty three, first marriage, all of that, and
I said, and they wanted a cruise, And I said,
go on Disney. And he goes, well, aren't there like
thousands of kids? And I said, exactly, it'll be the
best form of birth control on your honeymoon you could

(01:15:54):
possibly have. Well, that brings together true, that's true, I'm sure.
And he's got eight kids now, I don't know. Hey, listen,
that brings us to the end of another show. Thank
you so much for joining us. We're so appreciative to
have you in our Travel Show family, and we'll be
back with you next week here on the Travel Show