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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This program is on the cusp of going really big
time on the cusp. I love that word cusp. This
is the Rob Dibble Show.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yes, it is the Rob Dibble Show. Michael Johnson, Junior,
Nick Fererico, Kurt Kaplan here with you on a Friday.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Happy Friday, everybody, and.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Thanks for keeping us on the air in your afternoon drive.
And joining us is Rob Dibble himself, who is on vacation,
but he's so dedicated and maybe he misses us, We're
not sure, but wants to chime in and talk some
some Major League Baseball and probably the Boston Red Sox.
At the top of that, Rob, what's going on? How
we doing?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Oh, we're doing great. To the listeners, it's a hot
one out there, you know. Thanks thanks for tuning in
every day and keeping us employed. And some days it's
like you don't want to be on vacation because you
see baseball and you see some sports that just shock you.
And it's not just the Red Sox. The Braves are
on fire. Matt Olsen's crushing the ball. You know, some
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of these guys that struggled early in the season, Durbin
for the Red Sox. Once they find their swing. Honestly,
it's like dangerous for pitchers to throw the ball at
them because they're so confident that it doesn't matter who's
in the game.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, and Nick and I were talking earlier. As much
as it pains us as Yankees fans, you have to
tip your cap and you're running out of like great
stats to find about this win streak in positive things
to say about this Red Sox team, because they literally
win in any single fashion possible out of the twenty
six of their last twenty nine. I mean, that game
last night was crazy, and you know we were texting
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during it. I mean, we know Jaron Durant didn't help
them whatsoever, but basically everybody else did on the team.
But when you're watching the game last night, Rob, I mean,
did you think the Red Sox were gonna find a
way to pull it out? I mean they were trailing
every inning except for when they won it in the thirteenth.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I don't know if I thought they were going to
pull it out, but I thought that they were never
out of it, if that makes sense. It just seems
like they kept coming back. I think it was five
times they had to come from behind. But when you're
comfortable with your identity, and this team they expect to
win every game. And as I texted you guys later,
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you know, they won twenty six to twenty nine, and
they pulled to within a game in the win column
of the Yankees. But all that's fine and good. How
are they doing it? You know, Crochet is hurt. Trevor's
story is hurt. Roman Anthony's hurt. You know, you trade
for a guy, you know, Adlee Rushman, and he's hurt.
You know, they're showing him doing little drills and stuff
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like that, and I'm like, Okay, this guy might be
farther away than we think. So it's like, you know,
then last night, Wilson Contreres isn't in the lineup right,
and it's like, okay, yeah, the White Sox probably gonna
take this one and salvage a win in the series
and get the lead. And it's like, but the Red
Sox don't care. The Red Sox are playing better at home.
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The Red Sox are actually a game under five hundred
at home, and they were like fifteen under five hundred
just a month ago. So it's it's to me, it's
more about the Red Sox and their will to win,
and they'll do anything they have to. They're bunting, they're hitting, running,
they're hitting sack flies. You know, sometimes they're running themselves
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out of innings. And that's why I was texting you
about d Rant. Here's something that little leaguers understand that
you know, don't make the first and the third out
at third base.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
There's no reason for it.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
If you're on second base, a base hit scores you,
a hitt in the gap scores you.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
You know, there's.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No reason for you to test fait and get thrown
out trying to steal a base, or even a ball
that deflecs off the catcher by two feet, good catcher
like the White Sox, he's gonna throw you out. So
you know, it's things like that that I look at
the Red Sox and other teams that are gonna be
competing in the playoffs soon, and it's like that might
be the thing that knocks you out of the first
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or second round, you know, not your pitching, not your bullpen.
I think all of that stuff's fine for the Red Sox,
but it's little details you need to clean up. And
it's the same thing with the Yankees and Aaron Boone.
Here's the thing I kind of think to Chad Tracy
and his staff. I watch them how they are in
the dugout and they talk to the players.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I watch the Yankees. They don't really talk to the players. Yep.
And instruct and teach. You're always teaching.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It doesn't matter if it's a thirty five year old
grown man still playing in the major leagues, like a
Garrett Cole. You still can say something as a coach
that he may not see. Hey, you know what, you
need to back up third, or you need to back
up home, or you need to do this. You need
to get over there on a ground ball to the
right side. If you're a pitcher, you know, just little
things like that, because that's baseball. Baseball details get lost
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because like last night was a four hour game. By
about the third hour, three and a half hours into
that game, you still are being positive and reinforcing the
basics of baseball.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah you are. And I'm so glad you brought that up.
Because Nick, we watched the Yankees games. It's almost like,
not quite like a disconnects not the right word, but
you watch Boon like there's not conversations happening with the players.
Amongst the players there are in the dugout, but but
maybe not enough of the managers. Rob's Anderson, right, chat
Racy is involved, he's he's talking with the coach, is
very engaged with the players. Yeah, that is that is
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a good word, Nick. But like Rob, I wanted to
ask you this too, do you think Chad Racy has
done enough right now? It's where he should be the
front runner to be the Red Sox manager next year
and they just get rid of the interim tag I present.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well, Yeah, what you do is you start, if you're
John Henry, you walk right up to Wilson Contreres, who
wants to be in Boston, and you go, hey, would
you would you want to play for this guy?
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Right?
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And then and then you go to the other veterans
like Crochet and Sonny Gray uh and and you know,
some of the other guys that you're that you trust,
that you value their opinion, and you say, hey, is
this is this the guy that you want running this thing?
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Right? You know?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Or are you gonna are you gonna push him over?
Are you gonna be is he going to be a pushover?
You know that that's the kind of conversations that you
have after the season is over. But yeah, he absolutely
should be in the conversation. I don't know what what
what Craig Breslow is thinking, other than you know this,
this would be the right decision. And in baseball right now,
managers don't have a lot of say you have analytics,
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you have general managers presidents that that want to have
a say and they want to be involved. That's fine,
you know, but at the end of the day, I
still want to run the x's and o's. I still
want to in the middle of a game, you know,
be able to make some decisions, you know, based on
my baseball knowledge.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Listen.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He comes from a great family. His dad was a
hell of a manager and a coach. I knew his dad,
and so Jim Tracy great guy. So he's got the
bloodline of of people that love the game and are
passionate about baseball, you know. And it doesn't matter if
you're Aaron Boone or you're Alex Cora. At this point,
I really believe Michael that you know, getting these guys
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to understand that they have to police each other. They
had their team meetings in Boston and they said, listen,
we have to do whatever it takes to win. We
have to be this is a big word here for
baseball players and athletes in twenty twenty six, unselfish.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
We have to be unselfish.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
If I go zero for four, but I have three
bunts and sack guys over, that's a hell of a
day for me. And that used to be Like Jay
Bell was one of the grades. You could look it up.
I think he had like one hundred sack bunts one
year for the Pittsburgh Pirates. You know, that's the unselfishness
I'm talking about. And it takes character. I mean, the
Sunny Grays, the Rangers, for some of these guys might
be pitching hurt some of these guys, you know, we
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don't know, you know, pitching three four, five days in
a row. You know, sometimes they look crappy and they
come right back and they do well.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
And the Yankees bullpen's doing.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That too, So the same it's the same thing necessarily
that you're looking around baseball. The Braves are doing it right,
the Dodgers are doing it right. Why are we doing
it right? Probably because the players are playing unselfish baseball
and they don't get too down when things are awful,
like Matt Olsen could have just basically mailed in the
rest of the season. He's got a huge contract, he
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had an awful three months to start the year, and
then all of a sudden in the beginning of July,
he starts the season and starts I think he has
twelve home runs since the beginning of July. So, I mean,
you know, it's not just the Red Sox, it's how
you're managed when when somebody takes over is what weiss.
The guy is Don Mattingly, the guy you know now
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you're talking about Tracy?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Is he the guy? You know? Will the majority of
the Red Sox.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Players, including Roman Anthony respect this guy when he's talking
to him?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, it's all well said too when you talk about
Red Sox starting pitching and Sonny Gray and how good
he's been, right with fourteen wins? Look good the other
night too, he's at fourteen quality starts as well.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Could you see him catching the likes of Dylan Cease
and Cam Schlitler this al Cy Young race if he
keeps it up.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
With this right? Oh? Absolutely absolutely. Listen.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
I I don't know how they're going to vote, and
and you know, but I do know that probably the
last two months of a season matter more than the
first two months of a season. So people may forget
how good Schlittler was in the first three months of
the season and go like, oh, he had.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
A bad outing here, and he had a bad outing there.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
And and and not vote for him, you know, and
and give those to Sonny Gray. Now, these are meaningful
games right now, the Yankees trying to hold off the
Red Sox right now, also trying to catch the Rays.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
That these are huge games.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So now like your your your next six starts, next
five starts are huge when it comes to the voters.
But at the end of the day, listen, you know,
individual awards are great, but you want to win the division.
You know, you want to you want to win a
World Series. You want to win a championship and get
a parade.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So it in in a team sport. I don't think
Sonny cares. I don't think Schlitzler cares. I think that
Schlitzler would rather have three four wins in the postseason
than three or four wins in the regular season. In June,
and so that I look at all of these guys,
you know, some of these guys have been amazing, But
I think what Sonny Gray has done in the absence
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of Crochet, what Schlittler did in the absence of Garrett
Cole and Rodin and Freed, you know, that should not
go unnoticed.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
No, it should not. And and Sonny Gray has more
wins right if you want to look at the stats
for that too. He's been the Red Sox best pitcher,
you know, in this twenty six out of twenty nine
win streak, which could continue, let's face it, right at
home against the Athletics starting tonight. You know, offensively, rob
you look at you look at Boston, and to me,
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I'm curious if you agree or not. The you know,
with Wilson Catrera's out, it seems like different night. You know,
different guys step up, like last night was a collective,
collective team win, you know, one through nine pretty much
outside of the ran the Red Sox, different guys are
stepping up. And in this win streak they are again
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you without Roman Anthony here without Garrick Rochet, which makes
it further more impressive. But your thoughts on just this
this Red Sox offense, where on any given night one
through nine. One of these guys, someone in the lineup's
gonna step up and propel the Red Sox to get
to win.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Well, I think you know, Michael, to answer that question,
I mean, it's it's it's more of who who do
you have.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
In that lineup? And you know, the the.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yoshidas and the Durban's and the guys like that, A
bray You. You know, these guys have been clutched for
the last couple of years. Uh Saydan Rafaela has been
has been huge, you know, And it's and it's really
some some guys that have fought to get their jobs
solidified at the major league. Let a couple of years ago,
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my wife and I literally used to joke about you,
I'm not so sure sure about this a bray You guy.
Then the guy like rips off thirty home runs. So
it's it's it's you know, Rafaela is hitting two eighty
five all year. People may not know it. He plays
gold glove center field. He does everything right, hustles all
the time, and he's a type of player that you know,
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may go unnoticed because, yeah, you have other stars on
the team, and you have other guys now like Rushman
that comes In and people are.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Like, well, you know, how much is that guy gonna?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Well what about the guys've already played one hundred and
ten games for you, right, you know some of these guys.
And Durbin, who again had a miserable three months and
then re established himself, has hit the ball the other way.
And it's and that's that's what bothers me the most
about Duran. Duran probably has the most talent, like Meyer
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did before they traded him, and people keep saying, way
did you give up on thing? It's not about giving
up on guys, but it's like, if you're going to compete,
you can't wait for a guy to hit and hit
with runners in scoring position.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Rafaela is hitting like three point fifty.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
With runners in scoring position. I don't know what Roman
Anthony's hitting anybody else, but that guy. I want that
guy coming up. Durban probably the last two months probably
hitting four hundred with runners in scoring position. You know,
guys getting two out hits are huge, you know, and listen,
the Yankees been doing it all year. That's why you
miss Bellinger so much? Yeah, because Bellinger was doing the job.
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Gold Schmid's been doing the job over there. So it's
it's really a lot of these guys that you didn't
think we're going to be the star players have stepped up.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
And we've talked about this for weeks and weeks and weeks.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That's when you got to step up and say, listen,
that guy's injured. We can't worry about him. Aaron Judge
is out. We may not get him back.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Brian Cashman just said, I'm not counting on him. So
I can't worry about guys that aren't in the lineup.
Rushman's not in the line I can't worry about him.
Who have I got in there?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So long?
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Steps up gets a huge home run last night. Right, Yeah,
So it's it's when when guys get an opportunity, and
now I say this the opposite way, when guys play
too much, sometimes they get exposed. Sometimes, you know, seven
days a week is too much baseball for some guys at.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
The major league level.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And then you're like, oh, this guy socks watching this
guy every day, you know, he gets four hits a week,
and they're in situations that don't help the team. So
that's where I think the Red Sox have really shown
me what they're made of you know, you fired the coach.
You kind of were dragging along for a little bit.
It looked like you were going to mail in the
rest of the season and be a team that everybody
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wanted to get right against.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And then all of a sudden, you fought back.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
You got you got knocked down, you got back up,
and now you're landing some blows, you know, some body
blows and some knockout punches, and you're sweeping teams and
you've won nine series in a row historically going back
to nineteen twenty. Yeah, I mean, some of the stuff
that they're doing is ridiculous. But coming back to reality,
is this team at twenty twenty six, or the Yankees
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or the race. They can't worry about history. They got
to worry about the next game in front of them.
And right now, like you said, the A's are coming
in for the Red Sox, that's a team that we
should win these games. But don't look past them and
start looking down the schedule, because then you're going to
be in uh in huge problems.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And that's the thing with the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
White Sox had that game a couple of times in
extra innings and let it slip away, right. You know,
I thought that's where Will Vennable kind of got outmanaged
by Chad Tracy. So if if I'm Craig Breslo and
I'm looking at that game last night, that that was
a well managed game by Chad Tracy and a poorly
managed game by Will Vennable.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Yeah, if I'm Breslaw, I'm thinking maybe I drop the
interim tech after I see a couple more of those,
if not right now too. So sixty three and fifty
one for the Red Sox and to me rob lastly
quickly on the on the Socks. Other teams are on
league me to take notes and they have no excuse.
Yankees don't none of these teams for me. What I
mean by that is with guys being out and hurts,
Red Sox are without hardybody.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
You got guys out and hurts exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
The kid klinb for the Dodgers is going down with
bone chips in his elbow right now. So you know
you picked up Scooball, you got another guy that goes down.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
You can't. You can't whine about stuff like that. You
can't control it.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
No, next man up quickly on the Yankees, because We
haven't talked to you since earlier in the week. What
did you make of it's two games? I know we
gott to pump the brakes. It's early, very limited sample size.
But what did you make of George Lombard's junior's two
games in the Bronx against the Cardinals. Were there a
few things that jumped out and impressed you?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Oh my god, the kid's fantastic. The kid's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I don't think that playing in meaningful games for the next,
you know, two months, is going to phase this kid.
And I think he's he's been well groomed, ready to
go plays. He's he's gloved first, which has a pitcher
I love. Yeah, you know this. This guy's making plays
behind me. He's making the routine plays behind me that
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let's just start there. Anything he adds with the bat
and he listened. He's gonna he's gonna come up against
some guys because the game has changed since I played it.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Sixth inning on.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
He's gonna get like a specialist, specialist, specialist, and and
maybe his last two at bats, he looks like he's
he's overmatched because he doesn't know them that well. He
hasn't been around the league yet, So I won't judge
him on his hitting, you know, until probably going into
next season or maybe even the postseason if if he
has a good postseason. But as long as that glove
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is there, and this guy, you know, continues to do
everything else the way he's doing it, you know, he's
he's golden with the red with the Yankees because and
I just felt Bolpi kind of got an unfair shake
at the end because you know, I'm not trying to
defend him, but it was like you you wouldn't give
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him opportunities to play other positions. Uh, Kybriiro's playing the outfield,
Kybriiro's playing third, Kybriiro's playing right. You know, you you
kind of gave that guy a utility tag and a
LFE preserver.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Had a chance. And now though Rob oh.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Absolutely and and so now he has to audition and
try to get himself to another organization. And I think
that could happen in the offseason.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
It could.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Before we let you go, anything else on your mind
since we since we last talked, didn't Eve been a
home doing stuff? But anything in the sports world that
we uh, we didn't cover that you want to get
off your chest and ran about here quick.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Well, no, you know what I'd like to say about
the w n B A I think I'll wait till
next week. But they need to just go back to
playing basketball and not answer all these political questions that
that's somebody else's agenda that's bleeding into the sport.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You know.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
You see the football guys are doing their football stuff.
They're trying to stay away from politics. Baseball guys won't
touch politics. Uh you know, so that's that's the smart
play for me, you know that to be in this
political thing right now with elections coming up, they need
to go back to playing w NBA.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Sports, not politics.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Goodness, politics, that's what they don't talk about them.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Nope, you don't talk about regional show cardinals. Just sports,
just bad sports. Sports.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That's what we want. I'll see you Monday morning when
we're golfing for the Donnie Marshall charity.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Donnie Marshall and the one of the best charities that
there is. We'll be there Fox Woods. Can't wait.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's right, all right, Rob, thanks for stopping by, Have
a good weekend, and I'll see you Monday, right
Speaker 1 (19:14):
All right, you guys be well be safe over the weekend.